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| 17:59.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 18:35.06 | calculus | landley: have you tried sending commits to remove the requirement for bc? |
| 18:35.18 | landley | calculus: yes? |
| 18:35.39 | SpeedEvil | sighs. I came across that last week. |
| 18:35.42 | SpeedEvil | Barking mad. |
| 18:35.51 | calculus | landley: and it sits around forever just like your perl removal ones? |
| 18:36.22 | landley | It was part of my perl removal ones: http://lkml.org/lkml/2013/2/27/40 |
| 18:36.31 | calculus | if it is not perl, it is bc, if it is not bc, it is php, ... |
| 18:36.40 | landley | The other 2 got applied, this one peter anvin decided to make a change that broke linux from scratch and wouldn't work with busybox. |
| 18:36.46 | landley | it's peter anvin. |
| 18:37.29 | landley | https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/15/548 |
| 18:37.40 | landley | He goes out of his _way_ to complicate the build. |
| 18:38.53 | landley | If somebody _else_ would like to resubmit my timeconst.c stuff, I'd happily acked-by it. |
| 18:39.05 | landley | But I'm tired of being a lone voice in the wilderness on this one. |
| 18:39.17 | landley | bc is in posix, at some point I'll write a toybox one, until then I can patch my local copy. |
| 18:39.24 | landley | At least perl disease isn't spreading... |
| 18:41.16 | landley | There is a large gap between coding up a fix and getting it pushed upstream. that was part of my "rise and fall of copyleft" talk at ohio linuxfest: https://archive.org/download/OhioLinuxfest2013/24-Rob_Landley-The_Rise_and_Fall_of_Copyleft.mp3 |
| 18:41.28 | landley | Which makes regrettably much less sense without the video, but oh well... |
| 18:42.21 | SpeedEvil | Are there any common embedded (not x86) boards which will boot the vanilla kernel with at least core devices supported? |
| 18:43.37 | landley | calculus: here's Philip Lougher (squashfs guy) pointing out he took a year off from work to finally get squashfs in: https://lwn.net/Articles/563578/ |
| 18:43.45 | landley | That was after it was already in every major Linux distro. |
| 18:44.22 | landley | My perl removal patches apparently had it easy for something not corporately sponsored. |
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| 18:48.17 | calculus | landley: that's crazy having to get it mainlined, taking time off for a year |
| 18:48.33 | calculus | no wonder so many venders keep there own personal trees |
| 18:48.40 | landley | indeed. I talked about that in the talk. :) |
| 18:49.18 | landley | Now extend that to GPL compliance code releases. Any of that ever getting in? |
| 18:49.19 | landley | Didn't for busybox... |
| 18:49.39 | landley | Given how easy reverse engineering turns out to be when you've got any practice at it... |
| 18:50.06 | landley | (I never looked at gnu code doing busybox, and I seldom even look at busybox code doing toybox...) |
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