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| 19:39.40 | sorphin | tosses broken MIPS devices at sjhill. |
| 19:42.38 | prpplague | sorphin: hey bud |
| 19:42.43 | prpplague | sorphin: long time no see |
| 19:42.45 | sorphin | prpplague: hey dude |
| 19:43.50 | sorphin | prpplague: indeed.. busy busy.. work, flashbacks to all the embedded devices that i didn't do much with (i.e. the tuxscreen, webpal, websurferpro, iopener, etc) |
| 19:44.17 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:46.01 | sorphin | prpplague: just bought a NIB of my first computer (Atari 800XL, and the tape drive, and tracking down the floppy drive).. and after taht, the first PC I had (Tandy 1000SX).. I have too much embedded stuff i'm messing with now though. the BBB, the Yun, the pi, pcduino, galileo, finally got around to rooting my 50" tv.. lol |
| 19:46.34 | prpplague | sorphin: hehe |
| 19:46.38 | prpplague | sorphin: indeed |
| 19:46.57 | sorphin | dual core ARMv7 in the TV |
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| 19:49.12 | sorphin | prpplague: and... a 486DX4/100 on a small board (PC104) that i need to sort out video for |
| 19:50.49 | sorphin | prpplague: how's things on your end? |
| 19:51.07 | prpplague | sorphin: reasonably good, working, paying the bills |
| 19:51.10 | SpeedEvil | Have any specs on the edison been released - or is that not yet. |
| 19:51.40 | sorphin | prpplague: still the ARMMaster? |
| 19:52.46 | sorphin | SpeedEvil: http://makezine.com/2014/01/07/intel-edison-a-computer-in-an-sd-card/ |
| 19:53.15 | SpeedEvil | Oh - right - that's somewhat more than I'd seen |
| 19:54.49 | sorphin | I'm heatsinking my galileos |
| 19:54.50 | prpplague | sorphin: mostly, but i have my hands in some intel stuff these days |
| 19:55.01 | sorphin | regardless of what anyone says |
| 19:55.11 | sorphin | i can feel the heat off them even at idle |
| 19:55.28 | sorphin | and i'm pissed at Intel for screwing the retail people |
| 19:56.35 | SpeedEvil | sorphin: you mean by not actually selling them? |
| 19:56.40 | SpeedEvil | Or did I miss something |
| 19:57.33 | SpeedEvil | Oh - nvm, I did |
| 19:59.09 | SpeedEvil | http://www.warpboard.org/technical-features/ is interesting too |
| 20:02.42 | sorphin | SpeedEvil: No, on the galileo... they had stuff in the 'maker faire' version, that they removed from the retail box |
| 20:02.50 | SpeedEvil | Oh. |
| 20:03.33 | SpeedEvil | Because making the experience less compelling is totally worth shaving $100k off the BOM. |
| 20:04.12 | sorphin | no standoffs, no usb cable, no 'intel doll' |
| 20:04.14 | sorphin | just board |
| 20:04.30 | sorphin | power outlet adapters (multicountry), and hte power adapter |
| 20:04.35 | sorphin | same price |
| 20:04.59 | SpeedEvil | That sort of shaving is insane. |
| 20:05.22 | SpeedEvil | As it would cost $1 or so for a doll, standoffs, and a USB lead - if you don't try very hard. |
| 20:05.43 | sorphin | Yes. Lots are pissed (and posting on the intel forum) |
| 20:05.55 | sorphin | Not everyone could make it to Rome after all. |
| 20:08.09 | SpeedEvil | The above freescale thing is interesting from the perspective that they intend to actually sell the parts retail. |
| 20:16.53 | sorphin | SpeedEvil: what was freescale? |
| 20:18.04 | sorphin | prpplague: I'm still a bit perturbed that we couldn't do anything with those stupid DCT5000s.. |
| 20:18.15 | SpeedEvil | http://www.warpboard.org/ |
| 20:18.30 | SpeedEvil | $149 12*18mm 512M 4G android 4.3 platform |
| 20:18.48 | SpeedEvil | With decent power saving |
| 20:20.10 | sorphin | SpeedEvil: ah.. it's become ARM overload to me in a way |
| 20:20.38 | SpeedEvil | sorphin: Fair point :) |
| 20:21.36 | sorphin | the bulk of all this stuff is all ARM... it was almost a breathe of fresh air that the Yun is MIPS |
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| 20:36.15 | SpeedEvil | Quite. Competition is (usually) good. |
| 20:39.40 | sorphin | as is variety |
| 20:40.05 | SpeedEvil | Sometimes. |
| 20:40.17 | SpeedEvil | looks at the diversity of 4:3 laptops. |
| 20:46.40 | sorphin | SpeedEvil: its' funny how people have compared the 400mhz of the quark vs say the 1ghz of the ARM on the BBB, or the pi, etc. |
| 20:48.11 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 20:48.19 | SpeedEvil | The pi is comedically slow. |
| 20:48.24 | SpeedEvil | Unless the GPU gets involved. |
| 20:48.43 | sorphin | clockspeed of x86 != clockspeed of ARM != clockspeed of MIPS, etc |
| 20:48.49 | SpeedEvil | At least for graphical devices. |
| 20:48.53 | SpeedEvil | things |
| 20:49.10 | SpeedEvil | Add in functional units, and it gets really, really confusing |
| 20:49.23 | sorphin | tbh, the only appeal that drew me to the pi's is the onboard encoding/decoding |
| 20:57.32 | clever | i have been looking into patching ffmpeg/mplayer to support the onboard decoding |
| 20:58.09 | clever | ive got it kinda working, but there are issues with b frames and performance copying all frames out of the gpu -> arm -> gpu, need to look into video_render again |
| 21:00.35 | clever | the main issue is that ffmpeg calls startframe, framedata, endframe, and expects to get the frame out |
| 21:00.58 | clever | but omx has an adddata function, a getdata function, and a callback when its done getting data, plus several frames of buffering |
| 21:04.34 | prpplague | sorphin: everyone compares everything to RPi no days, even if they aren't even in the same class or target audience |
| 21:06.46 | SpeedEvil | My desktop is _considerably_ faster than my RPi |
| 21:07.04 | SpeedEvil | Also about 6 times the power. |
| 21:08.02 | SpeedEvil | I need to actually measure it - I want to make a 24->PC PSU |
| 21:09.33 | sorphin | i tend ot use my work macbook for everything now.. so my hackinosh and my quad G5 upstairs mostly sit there.. |
| 21:10.05 | SpeedEvil | I'm on a 'right - let's eliminate these wasted watts' kick right now. |
| 21:10.29 | SpeedEvil | And as a plus - learn more about SMPS |
| 21:15.00 | sorphin | ah |
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