| 00:49.16 | prpplague | argh, will i ever get my computer room clean? i feel like i'm on a un-ending quest |
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| 01:23.04 | prpplague | howdy all |
| 01:23.17 | prpplague | sorphin: what are _you_ doing here? |
| 01:23.19 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 01:23.28 | prpplague | sorphin: jk, whats happening? |
| 01:23.52 | sorphin | prpplague: finally wandered back down here to my area.. all the people left bout an hour ago |
| 01:23.58 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh |
| 01:24.42 | prpplague | sorphin: did you read the section of above where MonMotha says there are 170,000 surplus directtv gateway units |
| 01:24.53 | MonMotha | prpplague: that was off /. |
| 01:24.57 | MonMotha | so take it with a grain of salt |
| 01:24.59 | prpplague | MonMotha: ahh |
| 01:25.05 | prpplague | MonMotha: any specs? |
| 01:25.16 | MonMotha | 50MHz PPC, 16MB flash apparently |
| 01:25.20 | MonMotha | so quite a powerful little sucker |
| 01:25.22 | sorphin | no, i missed it |
| 01:25.29 | scanline | haha, I used to have one of those but they made me send it back |
| 01:25.33 | MonMotha | and of course you have the built in ethernet (may only be 10Mbit tho) and if you can do anything with the DSL |
| 01:25.42 | sorphin | i just saw crap about wirelesa and skipped past |
| 01:25.59 | scanline | they also had a socket for HomePNA, not sure if it was possible... plus USB and a parallel port |
| 01:26.05 | scanline | s/possible/populated/ |
| 01:26.17 | sorphin | bell is trying to see homePNA crap |
| 01:26.23 | sorphin | "2 wire networking" |
| 01:26.59 | MonMotha | yeah, it had USB |
| 01:27.18 | MonMotha | didn't see anything about any form of parallel interface (was it a generic PC parallel port or something?) |
| 01:28.01 | scanline | yeah, PC parallel port.. the idea was if you didn't have a USB or ethernet on your PC you could still use the DSL gateway through the parport :-/ |
| 01:28.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:28.25 | sorphin | if you don't have usb or ether on your peecee.. you need a new peecee :P |
| 01:28.38 | scanline | or a $5 ethernet card |
| 01:29.04 | sorphin | scanline: or a beating w/ the cluebat |
| 01:29.28 | sorphin | hmm |
| 01:29.34 | sorphin | ibot needs a cluebat entry too |
| 01:29.35 | | bugger all, i dunno, sorphin |
| 01:31.38 | sorphin | ibot: stuff it |
| 01:31.40 | | sorphin: are you smoking crack? |
| 01:31.56 | sorphin | ibot: fishslap? |
| 01:31.58 | | i don't know, sorphin |
| 01:32.01 | sorphin | hmm |
| 01:32.09 | sorphin | must just be embedded |
| 01:33.26 | MonMotha | well, getting linuxon those little directv DSL gateways would be cool, though probably quite a challenge |
| 01:33.35 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:33.50 | sorphin | if i want a slow powerpc, i'll stick w/ my series1 tivos |
| 01:33.51 | MonMotha | there may not be an easy way to write directly to the flash (PPCs don't have anything like the ARM JTAG hack IIRC) |
| 01:36.03 | sorphin | ppcs do have jtag |
| 01:36.09 | sorphin | least the ibms do |
| 01:37.00 | prpplague | sorphin: unless the flash is removable, there has to be some procedure for re-flashing the device |
| 01:37.33 | sorphin | well |
| 01:37.35 | MonMotha | sorphin: but acn you program the flash over it? |
| 01:37.38 | sorphin | on the tivo, the flash is removable |
| 01:37.49 | MonMotha | I was under the impression that was a rather ARM specific thing, almost a hack |
| 01:37.49 | sorphin | but yeah, you could, even if it wasn't |
| 01:38.17 | prpplague | MonMotha: jtag? |
| 01:38.33 | sorphin | MonMotha: jtag is definately not ARM specific |
| 01:39.09 | prpplague | man i need a dvd player in my box |
| 01:39.18 | sorphin | hehe |
| 01:39.26 | sorphin | prpplague: don't get the sony 1621 |
| 01:39.45 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, i've heard stories |
| 01:39.49 | sorphin | aka also pacific digital |
| 01:39.56 | sorphin | it works well enough for me here |
| 01:40.01 | prpplague | ok didn't know that alias |
| 01:40.01 | sorphin | some people have had probs tho |
| 01:40.06 | sorphin | can't rip at 16x |
| 01:40.11 | sorphin | best i rip at is 6x |
| 01:40.25 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, i _only_ do linux |
| 01:40.35 | prpplague | sorphin: so no rip'n for me right now |
| 01:40.40 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:40.44 | sorphin | you can RIP w/ linux ;p |
| 01:40.53 | sorphin | it's burning that's the fun |
| 01:41.07 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, ahh, i miss understood then |
| 01:41.17 | sorphin | ripping is trivial |
| 01:41.20 | sorphin | hell |
| 01:41.26 | prpplague | ahh, using libdecss ? |
| 01:41.29 | sorphin | all you have to do is unlock the drive/disc |
| 01:41.33 | sorphin | and cp the files :P |
| 01:41.40 | prpplague | oh? |
| 01:41.42 | prpplague | wow |
| 01:41.51 | sorphin | just an iso/udf filesystem |
| 01:42.10 | prpplague | hmm, the files are in chapters right? |
| 01:42.45 | sorphin | actually |
| 01:42.48 | sorphin | chapters are in the files |
| 01:42.59 | sorphin | the files are just spit into max of 1G each |
| 01:43.05 | prpplague | ahh |
| 01:43.26 | MonMotha | sorphin: I know the JTAG bus isn't, but I thought the "program flash over JTAG" thing was |
| 01:43.34 | sorphin | nope |
| 01:43.39 | MonMotha | whadya know |
| 01:43.42 | sorphin | that's the whole point of jtag ;) |
| 01:43.44 | MonMotha | can you do it on x86? |
| 01:43.49 | sorphin | or a major point i should say |
| 01:43.51 | prpplague | MonMotha: no the flash programming is part of the commit desing |
| 01:44.00 | prpplague | MonMotha: yes some SOC x86 support jtag |
| 01:44.19 | prpplague | MonMotha: the STPC series and Geode have jtag |
| 01:44.33 | prpplague | MonMotha: IIRC |
| 01:44.39 | sorphin | generally i have something else i can flash in |
| 01:44.46 | sorphin | the tivos, i can cross flash |
| 01:44.50 | sorphin | routers, the same |
| 01:45.13 | sorphin | peecees are the same if you're lucky enough to have 2 boards w/ the same flash socket type |
| 01:45.16 | prpplague | man i was hoping to finish with computer room today...... |
| 01:45.23 | sorphin | prpplague: riiight |
| 01:45.33 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm close actually |
| 01:46.04 | prpplague | after 3 trips to the salvation army and 2 trips to the dump |
| 01:46.07 | sorphin | finally could a place w/ semi decent price on SD/MMC cards |
| 01:46.13 | sorphin | s/could/found/ |
| 01:46.24 | prpplague | sorphin: been hitting the egg nog? |
| 01:46.36 | sorphin | seems it helps to search for SD secure digital now instead of just multimedia card |
| 01:46.40 | sorphin | no |
| 01:46.55 | sorphin | prpplague: when i do have nog, it's from a carton and no alcohol ;p |
| 01:48.56 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, thats no fun |
| 01:49.38 | sorphin | prpplague: no beer and no geek toys make prpplague something something |
| 01:49.43 | prpplague | sorphin: groove salad is really good today |
| 01:50.00 | prpplague | sorphin: a very mean son-of-a-bitch |
| 01:50.14 | sorphin | prpplague: umm.. you're like that all the time tho.. :P |
| 01:50.41 | sorphin | scifi even |
| 01:50.42 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, i'm just sarcastic and pesimistic, there is a difference |
| 01:51.34 | sorphin | i have some other wire, but not quite as thin as this stuff (it's the kind so thin you have to melt the insulation off) |
| 01:52.05 | prpplague | man i need to finish cleaning |
| 01:52.24 | prpplague | sorphin: room gonna be nice when i get done |
| 01:52.32 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm gonna install some new lights, |
| 01:52.40 | sorphin | prpplague: need to hook up these 2 usb drive to test out the usb 2.0 |
| 01:53.55 | prpplague | sorphin: you ever see those removable ide hard drive bays? |
| 01:54.10 | sorphin | prpplague: swaptrays are evil |
| 01:54.25 | prpplague | sorphin: why? |
| 01:54.29 | sorphin | prpplague: you don't know someone i do |
| 01:54.35 | sorphin | he's obsessed w/ em ;p |
| 01:55.35 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh, well i was thinking, how about a pda that is like a one of those bays, you have a tower case with cd-rom/hd/vga/keyboard/mouse that you just shove you pda into |
| 01:56.07 | prpplague | have one at your office and at home |
| 01:56.07 | sorphin | scary |
| 01:56.22 | prpplague | could even have an interface in your car |
| 01:57.02 | prpplague | lose that one and your SOL |
| 01:57.16 | prpplague | none the less that would rock |
| 01:57.30 | sorphin | yeah |
| 01:57.53 | prpplague | you could have airports with bays where you could walk up and shove your pda in and you'd ready to rock |
| 01:58.09 | sorphin | yeah, try convicing them of that |
| 01:58.17 | prpplague | sorphin: $$ |
| 01:58.33 | prpplague | sorphin: where there is a way to make money, biz will follow |
| 01:59.38 | prpplague | thinking after i get my hack kit started, i'll make a prototype |
| 02:00.09 | sorphin | how's things looking for the hackkit run? |
| 02:00.31 | prpplague | sorphin: good, the next 10 units will be done sometime around the first of jan |
| 02:00.57 | sorphin | still look possible for the $99 ones for the gang ? |
| 02:00.58 | prpplague | sorphin: i'll get some of them, others will go to key developers, and we start working on docs and projects |
| 02:01.39 | prpplague | sorphin: ya i'm planning for around 20 units to got for $99 with promises of interesting projects |
| 02:02.26 | prpplague | sorphin: if i can sell the first 100 quickly and get ppl liking them, i'll do a 1k run and the price will come down considerable |
| 02:03.30 | prpplague | sorphin: did you see the linuxdevices.com article? |
| 02:03.38 | sorphin | well, ya know everyone here will buy one up (tho, not for $699 or whatever *grin*) |
| 02:03.44 | sorphin | nope |
| 02:03.58 | prpplague | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT6349714451.html |
| 02:04.08 | prpplague | sorphin: $450 |
| 02:05.08 | sorphin | 99 i can do.. not 450 tho ;) |
| 02:05.11 | prpplague | sorphin: $450 is well below the cost of every board on the market even at OEM levels |
| 02:05.16 | prpplague | sorphin: i know |
| 02:05.30 | MonMotha | 99 I can also do, not 450 :) |
| 02:05.54 | sorphin | prpplague: still amazes me how much more they try and sell arm stuff for |
| 02:06.50 | sorphin | prpplague: linux in academia ? |
| 02:10.07 | prpplague | sorphin: ya thats my target |
| 02:10.19 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:10.59 | prpplague | sorphin: i want ppl to learn linux embedded and i want them to learn it with my board, so when ppl start designing projects they use a core they are familiar with, aka the hack kit |
| 02:11.55 | prpplague | sorphin: if i get one person doing a large project with the hackkit core that means the cost will go down for the dev kits |
| 02:12.40 | prpplague | sorphin: i will guarantee every customer if they use my board that the combined saving from the community will be passed along |
| 02:12.50 | prpplague | sorphin: power en mass |
| 02:14.02 | MonMotha | prpplague: what kind of proc these have |
| 02:14.20 | prpplague | sorphin: why should the linux community support companies like ADS and accelant, granted they have help in arm-linux, but their dev boards are still _way_ beyond the affordability of the average linux guru |
| 02:14.25 | prpplague | MonMotha: sa-1110 at 206 |
| 02:14.30 | MonMotha | not bad |
| 02:14.36 | prpplague | MonMotha: or whatever you want to scale them to |
| 02:14.41 | MonMotha | and since the xscale is buggy as hell, that's probably a good thign |
| 02:14.59 | prpplague | MonMotha: http://hackkit.eletztrick.de/IMG_1389.JPG |
| 02:15.20 | prpplague | MonMotha: the headers are all .1" and ALL pins from the sa-1110 are available on the header |
| 02:15.29 | prpplague | MonMotha: the board works standalone |
| 02:15.42 | MonMotha | prpplague: wow...nice |
| 02:15.43 | prpplague | MonMotha: it has a voltage regulator and rs-232 |
| 02:15.52 | prpplague | MonMotha: got a couple of leds for diags |
| 02:15.53 | MonMotha | so you have the entire local bus, all GPIOs, etc avaialble |
| 02:15.59 | prpplague | MonMotha: everything |
| 02:16.02 | MonMotha | sweet |
| 02:16.07 | MonMotha | I've been looking for something like that |
| 02:16.27 | prpplague | MonMotha: jtag with buffers so you can connect directly to lpt port |
| 02:16.33 | prpplague | MonMotha: compliments of Russ |
| 02:16.34 | MonMotha | very nice |
| 02:16.37 | MonMotha | that was a good idea |
| 02:16.53 | MonMotha | building the buffer such that jflash won't get mad is rather tedious |
| 02:16.56 | prpplague | 16meg flash and 64 meg ram |
| 02:17.22 | MonMotha | and of course adding on is rather trivial |
| 02:17.28 | prpplague | exactly |
| 02:17.41 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:17.46 | sorphin | the xscale is what the 5600 has.. |
| 02:18.32 | MonMotha | prpplague: what's the unpopulated grid in the lower right? |
| 02:19.06 | prpplague | MonMotha: CYA socket, we are using two flash chips, just incase they aren't available we can use a single chip |
| 02:19.14 | MonMotha | ah |
| 02:19.51 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i went back a version the firmware for the sony drive |
| 02:19.56 | sorphin | doing a speed test atm on a dvd |
| 02:20.01 | sorphin | it's up to 7.68 so far |
| 02:20.02 | prpplague | sorphin: and? |
| 02:20.09 | sorphin | and still climbing |
| 02:20.22 | sorphin | 8x now |
| 02:20.22 | prpplague | MonMotha: i can send you the schematics from the office tomorrow if you'd like |
| 02:20.57 | sorphin | prpplague: schem's for the hackkit? i'll take some of that :) |
| 02:21.10 | prpplague | sorphin: ok, remind me tomorrow |
| 02:21.20 | sorphin | k |
| 02:21.42 | prpplague | we already have blob and linux running with no problems so far |
| 02:21.44 | MonMotha | prpplague: I won't complain |
| 02:21.46 | MonMotha | ibot monmotha |
| 02:21.51 | | i guess monmotha is mailto:zbazbgun@vaql.ee.pbz (un-ROT13) |
| 02:21.55 | prpplague | we only had 3 pcb layout problems |
| 02:21.55 | sorphin | prpplague: i'll be nice to finally have a board we don't have to rev engineer just to see how it's "layed out" |
| 02:22.08 | prpplague | agreed |
| 02:22.26 | sorphin | prpplague: just a 2 layer board ? |
| 02:22.34 | sorphin | (top and bot) |
| 02:23.05 | prpplague | sorphin: 6 |
| 02:23.10 | MonMotha | 6? wow |
| 02:23.18 | sorphin | fun |
| 02:23.44 | MonMotha | that would be a pain in the butt to reverse engineer anyway |
| 02:23.50 | sorphin | yeah |
| 02:23.53 | MonMotha | what are the dimensions of the board/ |
| 02:23.58 | prpplague | everything that cost big $$ is done on the board, everything else you'd want to do with the board can be done via off-the-shelf stuff and hand soldered |
| 02:24.02 | MonMotha | looks darned small |
| 02:24.10 | prpplague | MonMotha: pc/104 board size |
| 02:24.17 | MonMotha | which is...? :) |
| 02:25.00 | prpplague | MonMotha: something like 3.5x4 |
| 02:25.10 | MonMotha | that's pretty small |
| 02:25.10 | sorphin | prpplague: hopefully no more anomolies will appear |
| 02:25.21 | prpplague | sorphin: thats why we are doing the 10 unit run |
| 02:25.35 | sorphin | yeah |
| 02:25.51 | sorphin | prpplague: i think tomw will prolly like to look at the schem |
| 02:25.58 | prpplague | sorphin: as of last week rmk was interested in playing with one, if anyone can find a problem its him |
| 02:25.58 | sorphin | whenever he reappears |
| 02:26.05 | prpplague | sorphin: already done |
| 02:26.10 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:26.16 | prpplague | sorphin: 4 months ago |
| 02:26.20 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:26.45 | sorphin | i don't know rmk, so i can't say anything, i know who he is now cuz of you guys, but that's it |
| 02:27.06 | MonMotha | prpplague: got any specs in english or at least spanish? |
| 02:27.08 | prpplague | sorphin: you didn't see our RFC paper? |
| 02:27.21 | prpplague | MonMotha: sorry, haven't had time to translate |
| 02:27.33 | prpplague | MonMotha: my partner is austrian |
| 02:27.55 | sorphin | prpplague: nope |
| 02:27.59 | MonMotha | prpplague: well, if you make a good english translation I can translate to spanish you want, though obviously double translations aren't always great :) |
| 02:28.31 | prpplague | MonMotha: cool, you speak spanish |
| 02:28.32 | prpplague | ? |
| 02:28.49 | MonMotha | prpplague: somewhat...haven't really spoken it in almost a year though so I'm a little rusty |
| 02:29.04 | MonMotha | I can almost always figure out what's being said, and I'm decent at saying things |
| 02:29.08 | prpplague | MonMotha: your in the states right? |
| 02:29.12 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 02:29.18 | MonMotha | I speak english natively, spanish second |
| 02:29.23 | prpplague | ahh |
| 02:29.24 | MonMotha | american english that is |
| 02:29.35 | prpplague | i speak texan nativelly, english second |
| 02:29.39 | MonMotha | there's a fairly large hispanic population where I am so it's relatively useful |
| 02:29.41 | MonMotha | texan...heh |
| 02:29.45 | sorphin | haha |
| 02:29.51 | sorphin | a chocolate moose moose |
| 02:29.52 | MonMotha | it's a language all it's own I know |
| 02:30.04 | prpplague | yep |
| 02:31.05 | prpplague | the ABA is starting to kick my butt |
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| 02:32.22 | prpplague | Holy BusyBox Batman looks like andersee has arrived |
| 02:33.39 | prpplague | <brownnose>we are honored to have the presence of such a great embedded coder</brownnose> |
| 02:34.00 | sorphin | prpplague: you got some brown stuff on your nose ;p |
| 02:34.11 | andersee | prpplague: evening |
| 02:34.11 | prpplague | sorphin: did i get it? |
| 02:34.18 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah |
| 02:34.26 | andersee | prpplague: Just got back from visiting relatives |
| 02:34.38 | sorphin | andersee: sympathies |
| 02:34.50 | andersee | :-) |
| 02:35.17 | sorphin | andersee: kind/model/pixel ? |
| 02:35.27 | prpplague | andersee: hmm caught aunt sue at the punch bowl too many times? |
| 02:36.32 | Russ | prpplague: you talking about the shanip3/jtag/rs232 board I'm sending in? |
| 02:36.54 | sorphin | Russ: no, but now that you mention it *grin* |
| 02:37.08 | Russ | they don't open again until the 5th I think |
| 02:37.13 | sorphin | yeah |
| 02:37.32 | sorphin | Russ: prplague 'd'oh'd a when he found a box of max232s ;) |
| 02:37.35 | andersee | sorphin: Canon Powershot A200 with a 128MB CF card |
| 02:37.43 | sorphin | andersee: cool |
| 02:38.05 | prpplague | Russ: naw, about the jtag on the hack kit |
| 02:38.47 | Russ | ah |
| 02:39.43 | Russ | anyway, I'm going to see if I can play some codename: eagle online |
| 02:39.47 | Russ | be back later |
| 02:39.48 | prpplague | Russ: ya i ordered about of os max232's and last night when i was cleaning i found a box of 20 max232's, i pulled them from some apple ][ board years ago, but had forgoten about them |
| 02:40.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:46.57 | MonMotha | can anyone reccomend a good CF reader (USB) for desktop? |
| 02:47.17 | sorphin | go to worstbuy |
| 02:47.48 | sorphin | that's where CP got his.. he's happy w/ it |
| 02:47.52 | prpplague | MonMotha: naw, i've been too afraid of those myself, i've stuck with pcmcia adapters |
| 02:48.06 | MonMotha | prpplague: well, my desktop doesn't have any PCMCIA slots :) |
| 02:48.19 | prpplague | MonMotha: thats why you add one :) |
| 02:48.31 | prpplague | MonMotha: makes embedded dev a hell-of-alot easier |
| 02:49.20 | prpplague | MonMotha: you can get a dual pcmcia bay that fits in a 3.5 bay for around $75 |
| 02:54.45 | MonMotha | I swear, you can screw windows up by looking at it the wrong way |
| 02:54.59 | MonMotha | I slapped a CF card in a PCMCIA adapter, put it in my (windows) laptop, and now it won't boot |
| 02:55.05 | prpplague | MonMotha: ha |
| 02:55.11 | prpplague | MonMotha: good one |
| 02:57.05 | MonMotha | removing the card and power cycling the system fixed the problem |
| 02:57.07 | MonMotha | go figure |
| 02:57.19 | MonMotha | of course only on windows do we have to reboot after inserting a HOT SWAPPABLE device |
| 02:57.30 | MonMotha | the hardware's hot swappable, but the software isn't |
| 02:57.34 | MonMotha | most of the time it's the other way around |
| 02:57.48 | prpplague | MonMotha: lol, yep thats why i've been winblows free for 4 years and 5 months |
| 02:58.25 | MonMotha | oh my desktop doesn't have a shred of microsoft code on it (other than the truetype fonts) |
| 02:58.34 | MonMotha | but the laptop doesn't work worth a darn in linux |
| 02:58.48 | MonMotha | too much unsupported hardware (like the PCMCIA, and the sound, and the video card) |
| 02:58.57 | prpplague | bummer |
| 02:59.01 | MonMotha | and the MPEG decoder |
| 02:59.06 | MonMotha | I think I actually finaly got X up on it |
| 02:59.12 | MonMotha | it was actually a monitor issue, finally found a modeline for it |
| 02:59.27 | prpplague | MonMotha: you know i used to own a small chain of computer stores in east texas |
| 02:59.39 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:59.41 | prpplague | MonMotha: selling systems with dr-dos and winblows 3.11 |
| 02:59.46 | sorphin | how can the pcmcia be unsupported? |
| 02:59.55 | prpplague | sorphin: the controler chip |
| 03:00.02 | sorphin | wtf kinda laptop is it? |
| 03:00.09 | sorphin | even my thinkpad is fully supported |
| 03:00.16 | sorphin | can even do openGL on the ATI in it |
| 03:00.17 | MonMotha | sorphin: it might be supported now |
| 03:00.24 | MonMotha | early 2.4 didn't like ISA to PCMCIA bridges |
| 03:00.31 | MonMotha | which is what this laptop has |
| 03:00.35 | MonMotha | it's an old compaq |
| 03:00.39 | MonMotha | P166MMX, 32MB |
| 03:00.43 | sorphin | ugh |
| 03:00.53 | MonMotha | I've got windows booted with the card inserted, but it refuses to assign it a drive letter |
| 03:00.53 | prpplague | MonMotha: i had a local m$ rep come see me wanting me to use their ms-dos and 3.11 bundle, when i declined, he said he would charge me with piracy and tie me up in court until he ran me out of biz |
| 03:00.57 | MonMotha | sees the hard drive tho |
| 03:01.08 | MonMotha | prpplague: doesn't surprise me |
| 03:01.18 | MonMotha | that's how they do business |
| 03:01.34 | prpplague | MonMotha: next day i dl'd a copy of linux and started looking for a buyer for my biz |
| 03:02.11 | MonMotha | I do consulting on the side and people love how I can set them up with a serevr for the cost of hardware and my fee and they won't (at least in theory) get slapped with $500k for "piracy" since they don't have exactly the right kind of liscense |
| 03:02.18 | MonMotha | prpplague: smart |
| 03:04.02 | MonMotha | there's why windows didn't see my CF card as a drive letter |
| 03:04.08 | MonMotha | it was a vfat FS on a "non-DOS" partition type |
| 03:04.14 | MonMotha | I repartitioned it a while back and put ext2 on it |
| 03:04.16 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, since i've boycotted sci-fi, i've not seen the commercials |
| 03:04.21 | prpplague | sorphin: when is it? |
| 03:04.30 | MonMotha | I put a vfat fs back on, but apparently neglected to change the partition type |
| 03:04.42 | sorphin | prpplague: apparently friday i think.. same day as SG-1 |
| 03:05.00 | prpplague | sorphin: sg-1 their is another show sci-fi fucked |
| 03:05.24 | prpplague | sorphin: sci-fi managment has _no_ clue about their audience |
| 03:05.58 | sorphin | scifi doesn't even have i really watch now |
| 03:06.07 | sorphin | only have it on cuz of gremlins atm |
| 03:07.09 | MonMotha | I love how windows says that "A device attached to the system is not functioning" (as if that weren't vauge enough) when the stinkin' hard drive just doesn't have a filesystem on it |
| 03:07.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:07.14 | prpplague | sci-fi has fucked great stuff like like sliders, farscape, bablyon5, sg-1 |
| 03:07.22 | sorphin | "get digital cable for as low as 49.95"... as low as huh? no thanks |
| 03:07.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:07.29 | sorphin | of those 4 |
| 03:07.35 | sorphin | i've only watched sliders and SG-1 |
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| 03:47.40 | MonMotha | love that...kernel sees my PCI modem, gives it a serial device, says it found IRQ 9 (which is correct) |
| 03:47.50 | MonMotha | then setserial insists that it's on IRQ2 |
| 03:48.45 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:50.06 | MonMotha | and naturally it doesn't work |
| 03:50.10 | MonMotha | I know I've had this modem working before |
| 03:53.47 | MonMotha | ATZ OK |
| 03:53.50 | MonMotha | there we go :) |
| 04:19.03 | MonMotha | Serial connection established. |
| 04:19.03 | MonMotha | Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Invalid argument |
| 04:19.05 | MonMotha | very odd |
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| 04:26.10 | monmotha_ | ph33r my hostname |
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| 04:45.47 | sorphin | MonMotha: um... why would i fear that? |
| 04:46.33 | MonMotha | sorphin: I dunno |
| 04:47.56 | sorphin | not my fault you're off ipv6 ;p |
| 04:48.09 | sorphin | i should be on it soon via wcom |
| 04:48.21 | sorphin | thorugh vbns (the new thing i'm gonna be helping support).. |
| 04:54.27 | MonMotha | actually, I was on a dialup for a second there |
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| 15:02.15 | sieve | morning/evening all |
| 15:09.31 | sorphin | lo |
| 15:41.06 | sorphin | kergoth: morning digi |
| 15:41.16 | kergoth | hey |
| 15:41.22 | kergoth | i shoudlve taken today and tomorrow off |
| 15:41.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:41.26 | sorphin | me too |
| 15:41.37 | sorphin | but i don't wanna burn vac days for this shit |
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| 15:43.39 | sorphin | ade|lite: lo |
| 15:43.40 | ade|lite | lo very few |
| 15:43.49 | ade|lite | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.00 | ade|lite | how are you sorphin |
| 15:44.15 | sorphin | ade|lite: tired as all sodding hell, you? |
| 15:44.40 | sorphin | ok, this isnt' right |
| 15:44.42 | ade|lite | wish i had more drink to be honest |
| 15:44.52 | sorphin | this USB 2.0 drive shell, should be sending at more than 12M |
| 15:44.55 | sorphin | and yet |
| 15:45.01 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.01 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.34 | ade|lite | better than this machine ~2 mb /sec |
| 15:45.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:47.18 | sorphin | ade|lite: so what'd santagit bring you? |
| 15:48.53 | ade|lite | a stress buster ... AA cell powered police car that runs round a plastic track( made from jigsaw pieces size ~3"x3") |
| 15:49.00 | ade|lite | hmmm |
| 15:49.10 | ade|lite | you ? |
| 15:49.27 | sorphin | scary, anything from the lass ? |
| 15:49.32 | sorphin | eh.. nothing exciting |
| 15:50.00 | ade|lite | sara go me scrabble |
| 15:50.04 | ade|lite | s/go/got |
| 15:50.27 | ade|lite | my sis/bro got me some sunglasses |
| 15:51.26 | ade|lite | na shes back in finnland atm :( |
| 15:51.31 | sorphin | doh |
| 15:51.37 | ade|lite | s/finnnnnnnnnland/finland |
| 15:52.11 | ade|lite | jan the 9th we've been together on/off/on for a year |
| 15:52.34 | sorphin | so make up your mind already ;p |
| 15:52.38 | ade|lite | thats a record for me |
| 15:52.44 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:52.59 | sorphin | my record is 9 months on, granted i didn't actually get to SEE her till after that :P |
| 15:53.30 | ade|lite | hopefully the new year will bring me a smp athlon 2100 |
| 15:53.41 | ade|lite | sorphin: ??? how does that work ? |
| 15:53.52 | kergoth | sounds like an online thing, eh |
| 15:54.02 | ade|lite | oh dear god |
| 15:54.15 | ade|lite | rreally ?? do they work out ? |
| 15:54.19 | sorphin | kergoth: you'd be correct |
| 15:54.20 | ade|lite | -r |
| 15:54.24 | sorphin | ade|lite: some do |
| 15:54.32 | ade|lite | and yours ? |
| 15:54.48 | kergoth | I think its important that you meet them early on. I didnt with the one I was involved in, and regret it |
| 15:54.49 | sorphin | ade|lite: i seem to find the lasses w/ issues |
| 15:54.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:54.53 | kergoth | brb |
| 15:55.03 | ade|lite | dont we all |
| 15:56.07 | ade|lite | i'm having troble with my father .. or hmmm i have been unsure of my size. hmmm i cant deal with love/happiness right now .... |
| 15:56.13 | ade|lite | women !!!! grr |
| 15:56.19 | sorphin | indeed |
| 15:56.45 | sorphin | so where's a pic of you and sara (or just sara *grin*) |
| 15:58.21 | ade|lite | dont think i've got one online ... or offline. shes got a digi cam someplace .. will get her to take a self port and slap it up on th web soon ;) .. pat per view style |
| 15:58.27 | ade|lite | pay even |
| 15:59.58 | ade|lite | :) |
| 16:01.43 | sorphin | ? |
| 16:02.09 | ade|lite | s/ping/ pint |
| 16:02.25 | ade|lite | lol ... guess its bad for typing |
| 16:02.40 | sorphin | screw beer :P |
| 16:02.42 | sorphin | drink cider |
| 16:02.45 | sorphin | more fun |
| 16:02.54 | kergoth | mm cider |
| 16:03.33 | ade|lite | not in the west country atm :( |
| 16:04.13 | sieve | hmmm... I suppose that's why dave and I spend som much time at the nudie bars. :D |
| 16:05.14 | ade|lite | ?? |
| 16:05.51 | sorphin | kergoth: one of my faves that i acquired a tast for in cam |
| 16:05.58 | sorphin | taste for even |
| 16:06.02 | sorphin | was Cider and Black |
| 16:11.19 | ade|lite | snake bite black is one of the old drinks :) |
| 16:11.32 | sorphin | snake bite black ? |
| 16:11.39 | ade|lite | 1/2 cider 1/2 larger .. plus i bit of black |
| 16:11.56 | sorphin | cider alone was awful bitter for me |
| 16:12.02 | sorphin | black definately sweetened it up |
| 16:12.34 | ade|lite | sbb sees you bladdered by the 4th pint :) |
| 16:12.55 | sorphin | ade|lite: i have 2 pints of this |
| 16:12.59 | sorphin | s/have/had/ |
| 16:13.04 | sorphin | i was walking a bit funny |
| 16:13.06 | ade|lite | then you can move on to the purple blob |
| 16:13.23 | ade|lite | being ssb with a shot or two of vodka |
| 16:13.49 | sorphin | ade|lite: vodka and redbull was tastey |
| 16:13.51 | ade|lite | mixing is the way to being pissed for les $$$ |
| 16:14.09 | ade|lite | aaaaahhhhh |
| 16:14.18 | sorphin | ? |
| 16:14.20 | ade|lite | redbull et vodka |
| 16:14.20 | sieve | mmm bawls and skyy vodka.. |
| 16:14.32 | sorphin | sieve: umm |
| 16:14.44 | sorphin | sice: i refuse to drink something named "bawls" |
| 16:14.46 | ade|lite | redbull+vodka ...11 doubles in 43 mins ... bad times |
| 16:15.21 | kergoth | bawls and vodka? shit, i need to try that |
| 16:15.46 | sieve | kergoth: good stuff |
| 16:16.10 | kergoth | I wish there was a local place around here that sold bawls by the case |
| 16:16.14 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 16:16.28 | sorphin | that is such an awful name |
| 16:16.45 | sieve | kergoth: yea. it's hard to get around here too. |
| 16:17.12 | ade|lite | what is it ? |
| 16:17.15 | sieve | sorphin: and what's really bad is it comes in a blue studded bottle.. |
| 16:17.24 | sieve | www.bawls.com |
| 16:17.31 | sorphin | sieve: ok, i'm definately never buying that |
| 16:17.38 | sieve | heh |
| 16:18.20 | ade|lite | hopefully becs isn't as shes driving to the airport |
| 16:19.06 | sorphin | ade|lite: ? |
| 16:19.10 | sorphin | hmm.. this sucks |
| 16:19.26 | sorphin | this firewire card has a TI chipset, but the pcilynx driver don't see it |
| 16:20.20 | ade|lite | my firewire knowledge is fixed to sara's laptop and windows ... sorry |
| 16:20.56 | sorphin | ade|lite: i have no firewire knowledge other than what i just read in the kernel doc |
| 16:21.16 | sorphin | ade|lite: but this card only cost me $12 US, so.. |
| 16:21.34 | ade|lite | better than my 21 squids for saras |
| 16:21.49 | sorphin | ade|lite: bought it w/ my webpals |
| 16:22.18 | sorphin | what's annoying me atm, is this USB 2.0 is only pushing 12MB/sec |
| 16:22.19 | ade|lite | is that the device everyone was wanting to get about ~1.5 weeks ago |
| 16:22.25 | sorphin | sucks arse |
| 16:22.29 | sorphin | the webpal? yeah |
| 16:23.29 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:23.44 | sorphin | that's why you do like some, and have a friend ship |
| 16:24.36 | ade|lite | if i had know earlier i wold have had a friend bring one over, alas he didn't tell me he was coming home of xmas |
| 16:25.07 | ade|lite | till he phoned me saying ... lets meet for a drink or whole pub ;) |
| 16:25.26 | sorphin | well, prpplague will be bulk buying 10 more i think, maybe you can convince him to work something out w/ you on you paypaling or whatever and he ships it over |
| 16:25.43 | ade|lite | would be good :) |
| 16:26.04 | sorphin | ade|lite: assuming he ever sobers up and appears ;) |
| 16:26.32 | ade|lite | i'd like to get a au1000 or 1500 eval board .. but they cost ~600 usd each :( |
| 16:26.39 | ade|lite | lol |
| 16:26.53 | ade|lite | mips btw |
| 16:26.58 | sorphin | ade|lite: prpplague's hackkit looks neat |
| 16:27.04 | sorphin | kergoth: yo |
| 16:27.07 | ade|lite | url ? |
| 16:27.33 | sorphin | ibot: hackkit ? |
| 16:27.35 | | i haven't a clue, sorphin |
| 16:27.37 | sorphin | damn |
| 16:27.42 | ade|lite | lol |
| 16:27.57 | sorphin | have to wait till someone who remembers wakes up |
| 16:28.44 | ade|lite | whats he done then ? |
| 16:28.59 | sorphin | easy to workt w/ ARM board |
| 16:29.18 | sorphin | everything that is hard to do is onboard, anything else can be added on w/ off the shelf kit |
| 16:29.51 | ade|lite | nice |
| 16:30.21 | sorphin | yeah, it looks promising |
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| 16:33.31 | ade|laptop | fscking isdn shitty connections |
| 16:39.34 | sieve | ade|lite: http://hackkit.eletztrick.de/ prpplague's hack kit board |
| 16:39.59 | sorphin | sieve: speaking of that lazy bast.. where is he? |
| 16:40.53 | ade|laptop | lol tried to middle mouse on windows for paste |
| 16:40.54 | sieve | sorphin: dunno.. I expect him in any time now. Hw WAS hitting the sauce last night however.. |
| 16:41.30 | sorphin | sieve: figured as much |
| 16:41.45 | ade|laptop | who was not ? |
| 16:42.21 | sorphin | ade|laptop: i wasn't |
| 16:42.44 | sorphin | kergoth: you always do tho |
| 16:42.51 | sorphin | kergoth: and while you're awake for hte moment |
| 16:42.59 | sorphin | kergoth: what's the story on OZ |
| 16:43.33 | kergoth | story.. not much of a story. its a debian based distribution for use on embedded devices, very very similar to familiar for the ipaq folks |
| 16:44.04 | sorphin | kergoth: i meant more status |
| 16:44.21 | sorphin | for usability |
| 16:45.00 | kergoth | ah. well the gui it uses is in active development, pulled from cvs. its 1.0 release is forthcoming, but until then its stability is up in the air |
| 16:45.22 | kergoth | as to the base system, its pretty solid. will be more so when we're on 2.4.19 instead of 2.4.6 |
| 16:47.29 | ade|laptop | so what is the diff i OZ to fam? |
| 16:47.54 | sorphin | huh/what/who ? |
| 16:48.13 | ade|laptop | anyideas on the hackkit price ? |
| 16:48.42 | sorphin | ade|laptop: $499, tho he's gonna try a lil group of em for $99 |
| 16:48.47 | sorphin | for us if he can |
| 16:48.57 | ade|laptop | :) would be nice |
| 16:49.03 | sorphin | indeed |
| 16:49.50 | ade|laptop | which reminds me to sort out my little mipsel problem |
| 16:52.03 | ade|laptop | like the lack of mipsel code in oss cvs or sf |
| 16:52.12 | ade|laptop | for what i need |
| 16:52.16 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:52.27 | kergoth | ade|laptop: oz to fam, not much. slight package naming differences and the like, oz's integration with the opie graphical environment is superior, familiar's integration with X is superior. Familiar is -not- autobuilt, its -all- manual! OZ is built by a buildroot. package creation, etc. |
| 16:53.48 | kergoth | i cant believe they maintain a linux distribution and build it all manually. what a gross waste of developer time |
| 16:53.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:53.51 | ade|laptop | hmmm. i was looking into mipsel-ifing a fam/OZ to buildd like system |
| 16:54.18 | ade|laptop | autobuild is started on fam now |
| 16:54.22 | kergoth | I'd prefer a buildd like system to a buildroot. |
| 16:54.26 | kergoth | yes, but its still not used. |
| 16:54.30 | ade|laptop | autobuild.handhelds.org |
| 16:54.33 | kergoth | and its greatly flawed |
| 16:54.37 | kergoth | not functional enough for them to use |
| 16:54.47 | kergoth | from what i got from jamey hicks when i spoke with him last week |
| 16:54.59 | kergoth | I didnt much like their autobuilder, i'd rather use debian's |
| 16:55.06 | ade|laptop | indeed |
| 16:55.38 | ade|laptop | i feel the whole system is too arm specific |
| 16:55.48 | kergoth | familiar maybe.. |
| 16:56.07 | ade|laptop | is OZ arch indep ? |
| 16:56.27 | kergoth | its crosscompiled. just a matter of telling the buildroot which arch to build for |
| 16:56.35 | kergoth | assuming you have a crosscopmiler, if not, it'll build one for you |
| 16:57.28 | kergoth | there -may- be one or two hardcoded arm references left, but I'm pretty certain I eliminated most of them |
| 16:58.13 | ade|laptop | when i get the time i'll have a wee peek at it and point out the arm ness , if any , in it for you |
| 16:59.01 | kergoth | cool. one of these days i'll look back into buildd and friends. one thing i dont like about them is they're too debian dependent, and only generate .debs, and dont handle crosscopmilation elegantly |
| 16:59.06 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:59.08 | kergoth | its on the todo |
| 17:00.05 | sorphin | kergoth: i'll prolly hit up oz when it's more mature.. if i'm gonna replace the rom on my Z, i need it to be able to at *least* do what the sharp rom can do (and more if possible :) |
| 17:00.10 | ade|laptop | indeed it is native-esk |
| 17:00.24 | kergoth | sorphin: understandable |
| 17:00.40 | kergoth | sorphin: new spiffy pim features upcoming.. crossreferencing, recurring todos, etc. |
| 17:00.49 | sorphin | kergoth: cool |
| 17:00.51 | ade|laptop | what do you think to the udeb package system ? |
| 17:01.53 | kergoth | ade|laptop: havent had time to look into it |
| 17:02.58 | ade|laptop | what i'd like is a udeb buildd with no damn gpl2 files, just a dep on doc-gpl2 |
| 17:03.49 | sorphin | kergoth: heh, opie's kinda neat lookin.. is that YOUR screen shot w/ liv tyler on it? ;) |
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| 17:04.01 | kergoth | sorphin: hah, nope |
| 17:04.10 | sorphin | prpplague: there's the lush |
| 17:04.31 | prpplague | morning all |
| 17:04.37 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm lush, i'm a beer expert |
| 17:04.46 | sorphin | +no |
| 17:04.48 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:05.03 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya |
| 17:05.21 | sorphin | prpplague: well, sieve said you were tipping back the bottle hard last night |
| 17:07.26 | prpplague | sorphin: yep, last for awhile |
| 17:07.33 | prpplague | sorphin: need to loose some weight |
| 17:07.56 | sorphin | ditto here |
| 17:08.03 | sorphin | at 220 even atm |
| 17:08.25 | prpplague | sorphin: not all women find my large beer gut attractive |
| 17:08.40 | sorphin | prpplague: gee.. wonder why |
| 17:09.15 | kergoth | parents picked me up a barbell set for xmas, just need a bench and my garage training facility is started. can start workin out again |
| 17:09.18 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:16.51 | ade|laptop | me/ notes that 'mary popins' is now on itv1 (uk) :) |
| 17:17.38 | prpplague | kergoth: ya sieve and i just joined a gym in town |
| 17:18.05 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:18.17 | kergoth | I need to borrow a drill, since i dont own one, to hang up my heavy bag |
| 17:19.09 | ade|laptop | prpplague: just the guy ... i hear you may be buying more webpals |
| 17:19.19 | prpplague | ade|laptop: yes |
| 17:19.48 | ade|laptop | prpplague: have you ordered yet? |
| 17:20.17 | prpplague | ade|laptop: not yet, probably not till next week, why? |
| 17:20.45 | ade|laptop | i wish to get 2, but they dont ship to uk unless its over $500 |
| 17:20.50 | ade|laptop | :( |
| 17:21.07 | ade|laptop | would you be willing to buy 2 more and ship to uk ? |
| 17:21.25 | ade|laptop | paypal payment type of thing |
| 17:21.28 | prpplague | ade|laptop: ahh, ya i could hook you up, but i must warn you, i've had awfull luck shipping out of country |
| 17:21.41 | ade|laptop | where are you ? |
| 17:21.45 | prpplague | ade|laptop: texas |
| 17:22.05 | ade|laptop | ah, well fedex, ups etc dont mind |
| 17:22.23 | prpplague | ade|laptop: if i include some additional stuff can you forward it to another person in the uk? |
| 17:22.33 | sorphin | prpplague: shipping to england is better than shipping to nowhere, canada :P |
| 17:22.35 | ade|laptop | yeah no prob |
| 17:22.59 | ade|laptop | where in the uk ? |
| 17:23.21 | sorphin | ade|laptop: watch it be wales ;) |
| 17:24.01 | ade|laptop | sorphin: i can live with that .. need to visit DMM factory shop for ice axes :) |
| 17:24.21 | sorphin | ade|laptop: ? |
| 17:24.36 | sorphin | ade|laptop: only got 2 hours sleep, britspeak is a lil off today |
| 17:24.49 | ade|laptop | DMM is like wild country climbing equip , but cheaper |
| 17:24.56 | prpplague | ade|laptop: one sec let me check |
| 17:25.30 | ade|laptop | DMM == cheap but VERY VERY VERY good climbing equipment |
| 17:25.37 | sorphin | ade|laptop: ah |
| 17:25.55 | sorphin | ade|laptop: wtf is to climb in england unless you're planning on climbing big ben :P |
| 17:25.55 | ade|laptop | i trust DMM more than any oder compamy on the planet |
| 17:26.07 | ade|laptop | s/oder/other |
| 17:26.32 | prpplague | ade|laptop: don't have the address handy |
| 17:26.39 | prpplague | ade|laptop: let me see if i can get it |
| 17:26.43 | ade|laptop | big ben is fun it climb in winter , but i go to the alps |
| 17:26.59 | sorphin | ade|laptop: ah |
| 17:27.12 | prpplague | ade|laptop: the clock tower? |
| 17:27.21 | sorphin | prpplague: yes |
| 17:27.41 | ade|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.41 | prpplague | ade|laptop: i wasn't aware it was open to the public |
| 17:27.42 | sorphin | prpplague: tho technically, it's only the bell, but people still call the whole tower big ben |
| 17:28.03 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya i knew that |
| 17:28.37 | sorphin | prpplague: that was the 1st thing when i came up from underground from taking the tube from cheswick... simply amazing |
| 17:28.48 | sorphin | +that i saw |
| 17:29.03 | sorphin | that was what really clicked into my head i was in england |
| 17:29.04 | prpplague | ya, i have a whole list of places in the UK i want to visit |
| 17:29.20 | prpplague | _someday_ i'm gonna get the time/money to take a trip |
| 17:29.22 | sorphin | prpplague: stonehenge was neat |
| 17:29.23 | ade|laptop | oh shit didn't notice the big part doh doh doh |
| 17:29.52 | sorphin | prpplague: no druids around at the time tho |
| 17:30.06 | sorphin | ~fishslap ade|laptop for being a tosser |
| 17:30.09 | | ACTION slaps ade|laptop up side the head with a wet fish for being a tosser |
| 17:30.22 | prpplague | ade|laptop: ya well, i'll fix you up next week |
| 17:30.30 | ade|laptop | ok cool , ta |
| 17:30.39 | prpplague | ade|laptop: you want a ttl-2-rs232 adapter as well? |
| 17:30.54 | ade|laptop | cost ? |
| 17:31.12 | ade|laptop | like your hackkit btw |
| 17:31.36 | sorphin | prpplague: if you get the $99 bit.. i think we have another buyer ;) |
| 17:32.43 | prpplague | ade|laptop: ahh, thanks |
| 17:33.10 | sorphin | prpplague: all joking aside, as a brit would say.. "it is a rather nice piece of kit" *grin* |
| 17:33.46 | prpplague | ade|laptop: i'll send 4 units and if you'll forward the other two to another address, your units will be free |
| 17:34.07 | ade|laptop | "it is a rather nice piece of kit" na "it is a rather nice piece of kit, old boy, what what," :) |
| 17:34.24 | prpplague | ade|laptop: lol |
| 17:34.24 | ade|laptop | ok where ? |
| 17:34.33 | sorphin | ade|laptop: dont you have some tea to drink? |
| 17:34.38 | prpplague | ade|laptop: i'll have to get the address later |
| 17:34.42 | prpplague | ade|laptop: its for mallum |
| 17:34.54 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:34.58 | ade|laptop | prpplague: ok sure |
| 17:35.00 | sorphin | i didn't even remember he was over there |
| 17:35.07 | sorphin | shows how much i pay attention |
| 17:35.14 | prpplague | ade|laptop: i sent him some stuff a few months back and get lost/stolen at heathrow |
| 17:35.41 | ade|laptop | sorphin: indeed and nearly cockney/US mary popins to watch :) |
| 17:36.02 | sorphin | prpplague: i just a week or so ago sent a friend over there a sunPCI card.. USPS/Royal Mail, it got htere intact |
| 17:36.24 | ade|laptop | oh no probs for mallum, i could even hand deliver for him :) |
| 17:36.31 | sorphin | hehe |
| 17:37.11 | ade|laptop | malluk lives near liverpool st, london these days i think |
| 17:37.24 | ade|laptop | -k +m |
| 17:37.32 | prpplague | ade|laptop: london eh? |
| 17:37.50 | sorphin | liverpool st that is |
| 17:38.12 | ade|laptop | where a few underground lines meet |
| 17:38.14 | prpplague | ade|laptop: you in london too? |
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| 17:38.25 | ade|laptop | used to |
| 17:38.39 | sorphin | andersee: shouldn't you be sleeping young man? ;) |
| 17:38.54 | prpplague | ade|laptop: how mych does a pint of boddingtons cost there? |
| 17:39.00 | ade|laptop | in norfolk /exeter these days. but have many friends in london whom i visit regularly |
| 17:39.22 | ade|laptop | london boddies.. erm ~2.30 ukp |
| 17:39.43 | ade|laptop | 1.90 - 2.10 anywhere else |
| 17:40.13 | ade|laptop | boddingtons .. the cream of manchester ... brewed in luton lol |
| 17:40.26 | sorphin | ade|laptop: everheh |
| 17:40.29 | prpplague | ade|laptop: hmm, thats about $4 |
| 17:40.30 | ade|laptop | luton == scumy scum scum scum hole |
| 17:40.31 | sorphin | -ever |
| 17:40.53 | prpplague | ade|laptop: its pretty expensive here in the states |
| 17:40.56 | ade|laptop | ~change 2.3 gbp to usd |
| 17:40.56 | sorphin | mixed messages.. was gonna ask if you'd ever been up near cheswick |
| 17:41.38 | prpplague | ade|laptop: its about $20 for 4 tins |
| 17:41.41 | sorphin | or for more clarity |
| 17:41.49 | sorphin | ~change 1 gbp to usd |
| 17:42.06 | sorphin | less than it was when i was over |
| 17:42.12 | sorphin | it was 1 to 1.66 |
| 17:42.23 | sorphin | erm |
| 17:42.34 | sorphin | actually |
| 17:42.43 | sorphin | that's not right |
| 17:42.44 | prpplague | sorphin: ya 10 years ago it was almost 2gbp to 1usd |
| 17:42.52 | sorphin | ~change 1 usd to gbp |
| 17:43.01 | sorphin | ok |
| 17:43.03 | sorphin | now it makes sense |
| 17:43.10 | sorphin | when i was there in 2000 |
| 17:43.17 | sorphin | it was 1 USD to .66 GBP |
| 17:44.31 | ade|laptop | sorphin: wtf is cheswick? |
| 17:45.03 | sorphin | umm.. lemme think |
| 17:45.09 | ade|laptop | keswick i know |
| 17:46.02 | sorphin | it's on the ok |
| 17:46.05 | sorphin | misspelled |
| 17:46.12 | sorphin | Chiswick Park |
| 17:46.15 | prpplague | ade|laptop: you know shrewsbury? |
| 17:46.35 | ade|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.12 | sorphin | ade|laptop: know where i mean now ? |
| 17:47.18 | sorphin | since i spelled it right |
| 17:47.29 | prpplague | ade|laptop: some of my long lost relatives lived there when it had a monasory |
| 17:48.02 | ade|laptop | sorphin: as in just south of the thames ? |
| 17:48.56 | prpplague | ade|laptop: if sorphin and i come to the uk can we crash at your place? :) jk |
| 17:48.59 | sorphin | ade|laptop: on the west end of the district line, between ealin common/acton town and turnham green |
| 17:49.07 | ade|laptop | prpplague: your rellies are monks ??? how does that work ?? aren't they erm erm not taking part in the whole breeding thing |
| 17:49.37 | sorphin | prpplague: i already have places to stay over there ;) |
| 17:49.49 | sorphin | prpplague: that's how i stayed when i was over there last time |
| 17:49.50 | sorphin | :) |
| 17:49.52 | ade|laptop | sorphin: gottcha |
| 17:50.21 | sorphin | ade|laptop: boy did i have fun my 1st "rush hour" on the tube |
| 17:50.28 | sorphin | not |
| 17:50.41 | sorphin | fscking sardine can |
| 17:51.07 | ade|laptop | prpplague: well ou wouldnt be in london but yeah , no problem. could put you in london with some friends, knightbridge do you ok ? |
| 17:51.37 | ade|laptop | sorphin: oh yeah .. like tokyo |
| 17:51.56 | prpplague | ade|laptop: naw, they were peasants that worked on monesary land |
| 17:52.06 | ade|laptop | ah |
| 17:52.19 | sorphin | ade|laptop: on the picadilly line |
| 17:52.24 | sorphin | +c |
| 17:52.28 | prpplague | ade|laptop: name was Holcomb |
| 17:52.38 | ade|laptop | sorphin just found knightsbridge ... erm its similar to the very best place in NY but better ;) |
| 17:53.08 | prpplague | ade|laptop: supposedly one of the Holcombs went to battle with a battle ax and chop three enemies heads of with one swing |
| 17:53.12 | sorphin | ade|laptop: i didn't go up on hte picc line :P |
| 17:53.12 | ade|laptop | prpplague: chances of finding them == 0 |
| 17:53.49 | prpplague | ade|laptop: he was knighted and the family crest is three floating head and a battle ax |
| 17:54.01 | sorphin | ade|laptop: when in london i was mostly walking around downtown london, or else around tower hill or tottenham ct rd |
| 17:54.23 | ade|laptop | tf is downtown london ? |
| 17:54.23 | prpplague | ade|laptop: my grandmother did all the research about the family a few years back |
| 17:54.26 | sorphin | prpplague: i thought you were buried to the battleaxe? |
| 17:54.28 | ade|laptop | +w |
| 17:54.39 | prpplague | sorphin: no thats the old shoe |
| 17:54.51 | prpplague | sorphin: actually she's starting to look like a borg |
| 17:55.20 | ade|laptop | well i'll have a look in dads whos who book later this week , then i unpack it |
| 17:55.22 | sorphin | prpplague: just as long as she doesn't try and assimilate you into her collective |
| 17:55.40 | prpplague | <monotone>you will take out the trash, resistance is futile</monotone> |
| 17:56.18 | ade|laptop | lol |
| 17:56.35 | sorphin | prpplague: btw |
| 17:56.43 | sorphin | prpplague: this is your friendly schematic reminder ;) |
| 17:58.32 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh, need address |
| 18:04.39 | prpplague | sorphin: otw |
| 18:04.44 | sorphin | :) |
| 18:08.29 | prpplague | ibot: MonMatha |
| 18:08.30 | | wish i knew, prpplague |
| 18:08.39 | sorphin | ibot: monmotha |
| 18:08.41 | | i heard monmotha is mailto:zbazbgun@vaql.ee.pbz (un-ROT13) |
| 18:10.06 | prpplague | ibot: un-ROT13 zbazbgun@vaql.ee.pbz |
| 18:10.07 | | prpplague: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 18:10.15 | prpplague | ibot: ROT13 zbazbgun@vaql.ee.pbz |
| 18:10.15 | | monmotha@indy.rr.com |
| 18:11.40 | prpplague | ibot: ROT13 sorphin is a worldcom lackey |
| 18:11.40 | | fbecuva vf n jbeyqpbz ynpxrl |
| 18:12.55 | sorphin | prpplague: now now |
| 18:14.05 | prpplague | sorphin: jk |
| 18:14.29 | sorphin | well, since i've only had 2 hours sleep, i'll let ibot take care of you |
| 18:14.45 | sorphin | ~fishslap prpplague for being a POS loving texASS lush |
| 18:14.52 | | ACTION slaps prpplague up side the head with a wet fish for being a POS loving texASS lush |
| 18:15.03 | prpplague | ibot: thanks, bot snack |
| 18:15.03 | | :) |
| 18:15.53 | sorphin | ah so this is one of *those* type of schematics |
| 18:21.27 | prpplague | sorphin: what kind is that? |
| 18:23.35 | GPSFan | prpplague: btw while you are being reminded about things... cf adapter... |
| 18:25.15 | sorphin | prpplague: the one where it's just hcips sitting side by site w/ lil banner pins telling what line it's going to |
| 18:25.22 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm used to old schoo, ya know ? |
| 18:30.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: ahh thanks |
| 18:31.08 | prpplague | GPSFan: one or two? |
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| 18:37.43 | GPSFan | 2 please |
| 18:41.37 | prpplague | GPSFan: ok |
| 18:42.38 | GPSFan | prpplague: thanks again, you start building your serial interface yet? |
| 18:43.49 | sorphin | GPSFan: he's been too busy drinking |
| 18:44.02 | GPSFan | ;>))) |
| 18:51.42 | sorphin | GPSFan: so what's new on your side ? |
| 18:55.31 | GPSFan | sorphin: not much, WP is working ok, need to recompile the kernel to enable the other serial port, I pulled off the Atmel & smartcard socket. |
| 18:55.44 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:56.14 | sorphin | GPSFan: prolly gonna order some samples from maxim (233a's) |
| 18:56.33 | sorphin | think i should get dips or SOIC ? |
| 19:02.11 | GPSFan | dips are easier to dead-bug without magnification. |
| 19:02.19 | sorphin | yeah |
| 19:03.06 | GPSFan | I did my jtag interface for the Tux with an so. ftp://www.desertweyr.com/pub/Image13.jpg |
| 19:03.50 | sorphin | you just love wires everywhere don't you ken? ;) |
| 19:04.40 | sorphin | GPSFan: the 233 isn't supposed to need caps, but the datasheet shows em on the 233... |
| 19:04.45 | sorphin | pin wise.. |
| 19:05.47 | sorphin | pin 8, 10, 5, 16, 13, 14, 11, 12 |
| 19:17.02 | GPSFan | sorphin: pins 8 & 13 are no-connect, the others are just named C1+/- C2+/- because of the internal caps. |
| 19:17.11 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:17.35 | GPSFan | all you should have is 1 cap on pin 7 for VCC bypass. |
| 19:18.26 | sorphin | so you only connect 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,18,19,20 ? |
| 19:19.32 | GPSFan | plus wire 17 to 12, 16 to 10, 15 to 11 the blue wires in my pix. |
| 19:20.12 | GPSFan | http://www.paonia.com/~kenm/WebPal/Image04a.jpg |
| 19:20.12 | sorphin | weird |
| 19:20.42 | sorphin | make the 4k link yet ? |
| 19:20.56 | GPSFan | don't know why they didn't make those conmnections internally, maybe has something to do with testing. |
| 19:21.04 | sorphin | prolly |
| 19:21.26 | GPSFan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.34 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:21.42 | sorphin | well, still wouldn't hurt to have it ;) |
| 19:22.01 | sorphin | i have no idea whether any simms i have are 4 or 2k |
| 19:22.37 | GPSFan | running debian, top shows 20 processes with about 10M cunsumed, no swap, but I have a 50M swap area available. |
| 19:22.57 | GPSFan | look at the p/n of the chips then google them. |
| 19:24.51 | sorphin | heh, tried |
| 19:28.54 | GPSFan | hmm, what's teh p/n? |
| 19:30.41 | sorphin | i'm at work, can't look |
| 19:38.25 | sorphin | GPSFan: you missed one.. i see 4 blue wires..., you only mentioned 3 of em |
| 19:42.32 | GPSFan | ah, 8-6 to connect the 2 gnd pins. |
| 19:42.40 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:44.29 | GPSFan | I pulled the 3 sm inductors that power the Chrontel 7001, that made the LM323 run quite a bit cooler, no tv though, but as long as the vga works I would rather have the lower power. |
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| 19:48.41 | sorphin | yeah |
| 19:48.47 | sorphin | GPSFan: ok, need opinion |
| 19:48.54 | sorphin | Russ: afternoon mr dill |
| 19:49.08 | sorphin | GPSFan: this: http://www.radioshack.com/images/ProductCatalog/ProductImage/276/276-159.jpg |
| 19:49.09 | sorphin | or |
| 19:49.18 | sorphin | this: http://www.gatewayelex.com/images/12_607b.jpg |
| 19:49.28 | Russ | afternoon |
| 19:49.50 | prpplague | Russ: i have to ask, did you have problems in high school with your name? |
| 19:50.32 | prpplague | sorphin: thats the one i'm using |
| 19:50.36 | sorphin | prpplague: <butthead> shutup dillhole </butthead> |
| 19:50.44 | Russ | high school is when it started tapering off |
| 19:50.55 | sorphin | prpplague: the RS one ? |
| 19:51.00 | prpplague | sorphin: ya |
| 19:51.12 | sorphin | prpplague: ah, then i should fit ok since i'm using less caps :) |
| 19:51.24 | prpplague | sorphin: i did find something pretty cool on circuit cellar |
| 19:51.31 | sorphin | oh? |
| 19:51.45 | sorphin | prpplague: some stray beer cooler project ? |
| 19:52.00 | GPSFan | sorphin: they pretty much look like the same board, I would support Gateway (there was a Gateway in San Diego where I used to live, I think it's the same people) |
| 19:52.18 | prpplague | sorphin: this company sells they big boards that are snap appart prototyping stuff |
| 19:52.28 | sorphin | GPSFan: prolly is.. they have a store here and colorado now |
| 19:52.39 | GPSFan | sorphin: where in colorado???? |
| 19:52.56 | sorphin | look em up |
| 19:53.01 | sorphin | www.gatewayelex.com |
| 19:53.03 | GPSFan | doh... |
| 19:53.57 | sorphin | ade|tiny: re |
| 19:54.07 | ade|tiny | lo again folks |
| 19:54.43 | ade|tiny | mary poppins is still a film designed for LSD takers |
| 19:54.45 | prpplague | http://www.beldynsys.com/k900.htm |
| 19:54.50 | prpplague | sorphin: check that out |
| 19:55.16 | sorphin | ade|tiny: of course |
| 19:55.30 | sorphin | ade|tiny: that 'spoonful of sugar' is realy LSD |
| 19:55.33 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.beldynsys.com/p502.htm |
| 19:55.49 | prpplague | sorphin: that one actually has the max232 board on it |
| 19:56.11 | ade|tiny | bit useful |
| 19:56.14 | sorphin | prpplague: heh |
| 19:56.47 | prpplague | sorphin: they have a ton of really cool stuff |
| 19:56.58 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm gonna order some just to keep around |
| 19:57.23 | sorphin | cool |
| 19:57.33 | sorphin | prpplague: no POS devices tho ;) |
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| 20:00.00 | prpplague | ade|tiny: linear or switching? |
| 20:00.04 | sorphin | kergoth: f00d |
| 20:00.19 | kergoth | yeh |
| 20:00.27 | ade|tiny | lin |
| 20:00.27 | sorphin | kergoth: so what does a kergoth eat anyways? |
| 20:00.32 | prpplague | http://www.appspec.net/products/UpgradeKits/FurbyUpgrade/root.html |
| 20:00.35 | ade|tiny | fud |
| 20:00.36 | ade|tiny | ? |
| 20:00.48 | kergoth | depends. soup if i remembered to bring it, otherwise fast food |
| 20:00.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:00.56 | sorphin | kergoth: ah |
| 20:01.01 | sorphin | sweets for me so far today |
| 20:01.06 | sorphin | damn closed cafeteria |
| 20:01.25 | sorphin | prolly snag chinese on the way home |
| 20:01.35 | ade|tiny | still at werk ? |
| 20:01.50 | sorphin | for another 52 mins |
| 20:02.03 | kergoth | god i hope we close early |
| 20:02.08 | kergoth | i've not taken a -single- call today |
| 20:02.15 | sorphin | kergoth: my boss walked in and said to leave at 3 |
| 20:02.15 | ade|tiny | unlucky |
| 20:02.20 | prpplague | kergoth: isn't that a good thing? |
| 20:02.26 | sorphin | kergoth: 2 hours earlier than i normally leave |
| 20:02.38 | kergoth | prpplague: well yeah, but i'd rather be doing nothing at home |
| 20:02.45 | kergoth | prpplague: or doing something productive |
| 20:02.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:02.53 | GPSFan | prpplague: would it be possible for me to get a look at the schematics for the Hack-Kit? |
| 20:02.53 | ade|tiny | but its chistmas ... you should be leaving days ago |
| 20:02.55 | sorphin | kergoth: like working on OZ ? ;) |
| 20:03.04 | sorphin | ade|tiny: say what? |
| 20:03.11 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm, cost you a dollar......... |
| 20:03.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: e-address ? |
| 20:03.20 | ade|tiny | ___***CHRISTMAS***___ |
| 20:03.26 | GPSFan | kenm@paonia.com |
| 20:03.26 | ade|tiny | :) |
| 20:03.33 | sorphin | GPSFan: i warn you, they're those weird block schematics |
| 20:03.46 | sorphin | ade|tiny: "leaving days ago" ? |
| 20:03.56 | sorphin | ade|tiny: shouldn't you be off celebrating boxing day? :P |
| 20:03.59 | GPSFan | oh no not IEEE style? |
| 20:04.09 | sorphin | GPSFan: you'll see ;) |
| 20:04.22 | ade|tiny | sorphin: i am hence the pissed as a fart irc |
| 20:04.36 | prpplague | sorphin: whats weird about them? they look fine to me |
| 20:04.41 | prpplague | GPSFan: otw |
| 20:04.51 | sorphin | prpplague: not the kinda schem's i'm used to is all |
| 20:05.26 | ade|tiny | whats with the furby stuff? |
| 20:05.37 | prpplague | ade|tiny: nothing just thought it was funny |
| 20:05.46 | GPSFan | those aren't bac, color no less. ;>) |
| 20:05.48 | ade|tiny | oh ok .hehe |
| 20:05.52 | ade|tiny | haha |
| 20:05.53 | GPSFan | s/bac/bad |
| 20:05.55 | ade|tiny | hoho |
| 20:05.55 | prpplague | sorphin: they are just like the type of schematics from intel |
| 20:06.13 | sorphin | prpplague: that says it all :P |
| 20:06.54 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm used to the lines all over stuff |
| 20:07.42 | sorphin | GPSFan: think i should snag anything else from maxim this run ? |
| 20:08.01 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well thats too complex for so many bus's |
| 20:09.02 | GPSFan | sorphin: get some Mad225's they are 24 wide SO but don't need caps and have enough for both serial ports. |
| 20:09.13 | GPSFan | s/Mad/MAX |
| 20:10.46 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:10.48 | sorphin | 28pin dips |
| 20:11.28 | GPSFan | prpplague: were those schematics done in Orcad/Cadence? |
| 20:12.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: don't know, my partner did they |
| 20:13.57 | prpplague | anyone know what a lvch16245 chip is? |
| 20:14.20 | GPSFan | 16 bit version of a 245 |
| 20:14.33 | GPSFan | 3.3V or less vcc |
| 20:16.27 | prpplague | hmm, i thought you could connect a cf card directly to the sa-1110 without glue logic, yet the assabet board has these transceivers |
| 20:17.35 | GPSFan | probably for hot-plug |
| 20:19.03 | prpplague | hmm, i've got so much to learn :( |
| 20:19.56 | sorphin | prpplague: but as long as you're willing to learn, it's ok :) |
| 20:20.18 | prpplague | sorphin: willingness isn't the problem, time is |
| 20:20.29 | sorphin | prpplague: hey, $92 sound good for a sandisk 256M SD card ? |
| 20:20.44 | prpplague | sorphin: $5 sounds better |
| 20:20.52 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:21.24 | sorphin | well, it's not likely i'll find one for $5 :P and tim suggested i use MMC to keep the CF slot free for other stuff |
| 20:21.52 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, i'd check the sd/mmc/cf list first |
| 20:22.02 | prpplague | sorphin: there are some cards that don't work under linux |
| 20:22.03 | sorphin | the huh/what? |
| 20:22.17 | prpplague | ibot: zaurus faq |
| 20:22.18 | | prpplague: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 20:22.45 | prpplague | kergoth: wheres that list? |
| 20:22.55 | prpplague | ibot: z faq |
| 20:22.56 | | prpplague: i haven't a clue |
| 20:23.00 | prpplague | ibot: idiot |
| 20:23.05 | | extra, extra, read all about it, idiot is you |
| 20:23.07 | prpplague | ibot: sl-5500 faq |
| 20:23.08 | | prpplague: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 20:23.14 | kergoth | ibot: faq |
| 20:23.16 | | from memory, faq is at http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/zaurus-faq/ or at http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/handhelds-faq.html or at http://adorphuye.com/zaurus/java/faq.jsp or at http://www.travellingkiwi.com/zarus/faq/faq.html or at http://www.openzaurus.org/ |
| 20:23.22 | kergoth | top one |
| 20:23.24 | sorphin | ibot: tell prpplague |
| 20:23.29 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 20:23.35 | sorphin | [ibot(ibot@rikers.org)] No, sorphin, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 20:23.47 | sorphin | ah.. been to that faq before |
| 20:24.02 | sorphin | btw |
| 20:24.02 | prpplague | kergoth: how the hell do you know its talking about the z and not something else like the tuxscreen? |
| 20:24.11 | sorphin | isn't that talking kiwi link spelled wrong? |
| 20:24.19 | sorphin | 'zarus' |
| 20:25.12 | sorphin | umm |
| 20:25.16 | sorphin | prpplague: only thing i see is htis :P |
| 20:25.18 | sorphin | What other kinds of SD cards can I use? |
| 20:25.18 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.19 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.34 | sorphin | which is all i'm gonna be using the SD for is flash |
| 20:26.18 | prpplague | sorphin: but there is a list of the ones that work and don't |
| 20:26.32 | prpplague | ibot: zaurus sd |
| 20:26.34 | | i don't know, prpplague |
| 20:26.36 | prpplague | ibot: zaurus mmc |
| 20:26.38 | | prpplague: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 20:26.48 | prpplague | no again |
| 20:26.52 | prpplague | not again |
| 20:27.27 | sorphin | not on this faq that's not :P |
| 20:27.48 | prpplague | sorphin: ya i'm looking now |
| 20:28.17 | sorphin | prpplague: now seriously.. if this one's supported.. is that a good price ? |
| 20:29.06 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/wiki/index.php?MMC%20or%20SD%20card |
| 20:29.10 | prpplague | sorphin: thats one list |
| 20:29.25 | prpplague | sorphin: ya sounds good to me, i think thats what i paid for my 128 last year |
| 20:30.37 | prpplague | sorphin: there is a more detailed list somewhere |
| 20:31.38 | prpplague | http://www.zauruszone.farplanet.net/howtos/managing_sd_cf_howto.shtml |
| 20:31.43 | prpplague | sorphin: thats it |
| 20:32.30 | prpplague | sorphin: and also this one - http://zaurus.knightfire.com/ |
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| 20:35.28 | sorphin | granted |
| 20:35.35 | sorphin | it's not as cheap as a CF card, but ah well |
| 20:36.37 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.46 | sorphin | yet the fscking 128 is ok? |
| 20:36.47 | sorphin | wtf |
| 20:37.49 | sorphin | hmm |
| 20:37.54 | sorphin | apparently works w/ 2.38 |
| 20:37.57 | sorphin | but not 2.37 |
| 20:40.39 | sorphin | ok, i'm outta this popscicle stand |
| 20:46.14 | GPSFan | prpplague: are you going to do a cf or ide daughterboard for the hackkit? |
| 20:50.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: a cf slot |
| 20:51.24 | GPSFan | ah, that will be nice, |
| 20:52.26 | GPSFan | what about pcmcia? |
| 20:53.45 | prpplague | GPSFan: i had plans for just cf, but a pcmcia would be easy to implement |
| 20:54.12 | prpplague | GPSFan: i was also planning to put a cs8900 and ucb chip onboard as well |
| 21:02.25 | GPSFan | cool. |
| 21:03.05 | GPSFan | sort of a 2 board tux. |
| 21:09.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya |
| 21:09.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: much easier to interface with though |
| 21:09.51 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 21:10.08 | prpplague | GPSFan: the board it self is standalone, you can hook up power and a serial console and it'll boot |
| 21:10.33 | prpplague | GPSFan: the jtag has buffers (compliments of Russ) so you can directly interface with a lpt port for flashing |
| 21:11.12 | GPSFan | yea, I remember talking to you about it when you were of fixing some system in the carribian. |
| 21:17.05 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya probably barbados |
| 22:43.03 | sorphin | welp |
| 22:43.11 | sorphin | looks like my geforce256 is dying or something |
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| 22:43.19 | sorphin | it's now ghosting badly and dim |
| 22:44.43 | sieve | sorphin: time for an ati 9700 pro? |
| 22:44.52 | sorphin | umm |
| 22:44.57 | sorphin | prolly not |
| 22:45.00 | sieve | heh |
| 22:45.50 | sorphin | this fscking card's not even 3 years old |
| 22:45.51 | sieve | oh come now. It's just HALF the cost of a normal PC... |
| 22:46.01 | sieve | bummer |
| 22:46.29 | sorphin | sieve: i'm not a big ati fan, except for the video in my thinkpad, because it can atleast to opengl |
| 22:48.17 | sorphin | wibble has my old TNT and voodoo2 |
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| 23:30.29 | prpplague | yo |
| 23:30.34 | prpplague | crack baby |
| 23:33.26 | CosmicPenguin | evening people |
| 23:55.31 | sorphin | prp: you're the crack baby |
| 23:55.33 | sorphin | damn |
| 23:55.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: lo jc |
