irclog2html for #elinux on 20030121

00:05.47scanlineCosmicPenguin: hey... have you had contact with Royal recently?
00:06.06CosmicPenguinscanline: nope
00:06.14CosmicPenguinscanline: they trying to scam you now too?
00:06.30scanlineha, maybe...
00:06.48CosmicPenguinscanline: they already contacted us and Lineo, I guess PicoGUI is the only one left
00:06.49scanlineI got an email from someone there saying they're doing a PDA with PicoGUI
00:07.16scanlinenot sure that they want anything from me.. the email said they just wanted to get in contact with me
00:07.32CosmicPenguinscanline: some advice?  1) Sign a contract before you do any work, and 2) get money up front
00:07.41scanlinealrighty
00:07.59scanlineso I don't suppose the "lin@x" PDA was a good thing for you? :)
00:08.32CosmicPenguinscanline: it just didn't seem to work out, Royal was moving along guns blazing, and then nothing
00:08.47scanlineah
00:08.50CosmicPenguinscanline: and I believe the same thing happened for Tim too....
00:09.01scanlinewell, at least Royal seems to be less likely to go out of business than Ridgerun...
00:09.23CosmicPenguinscanline: anyway, good luck to you, just don't do a ton of free work for em.... make em earn it
00:09.30scanlineok, thanks
00:11.52scanlineI meant to ask them how they found out about PicoGUI, but forgot to ask when I replied
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00:23.37CosmicPenguin18 gooie toolkits on the wall, 18 gooie toolkits, you take one down, pass it around, 17 gooie toolkits on the wall....
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00:25.19CosmicPenguinGood night everybody!
00:50.49anderseescanline: Ridgerun has been out of business for like 6 months already.
00:56.56scanlineandersee: oh, I know
00:57.01scanlineI was consulting for them when they went under
00:57.05sorphinyay
00:57.09sorphinsomeone buy it now'd my 3com switch
00:59.56anderseescanline: ahh
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01:06.18CosmicPenguinevening
01:06.56sorphinCosmicPenguin: re
01:07.37sorphinCosmicPenguin: finally be destroying one of the webpals tonight (got a damn db9 to try out the serial adapter now)
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01:31.40sorphinGPSFan: evening ken
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02:55.50sorphinGPSFan: yo
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03:19.20CosmicPenguin'ello... :)
03:19.39sorphinCosmicPenguin: well, the adapter works
03:21.46MonMothais sound working on the webpal right now?
03:22.17kergothMonMotha: check the LAK archives
03:22.23MonMothaLAK?
03:22.31kergothlinux-arm-kernel
03:22.34kergothsomeone posted the patch.
03:22.44MonMothaoh
03:22.55MonMothadoes it work? :)
03:23.06MonMothaheh
03:23.33MonMothabecause I was curious if it did...I was going to try simply replacing the xtal driving the DAC with the appropriate one to get playback at the right speed
03:24.11sorphinanyone happen to remember what you need to do for it to display the amount of mem in the thing? i only get the rom banner
03:25.11sorphinEasy Rider [4MB] ER_NBOARD (Newcom) (bootrom v3.07beta)
03:25.13sorphinthat
03:25.31sorphinunless that 4MB is it, and my brain is just off
03:25.52CosmicPenguinsorphin: I've been too lazy to turn mine on.. :)
03:26.08sorphinCosmicPenguin: well, since i got the adapter working, i have incentive ;)
03:26.09MonMotha4MB?  that's got to be the RAM
03:28.28sorphinwell, it sees the 16M simm
03:33.15MonMothaibot webpal schematics
03:33.16webpal schematics are at http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/Webpal_1.0c.pdf
03:33.27sorphinor remove the c
03:33.30sorphinfor b&w :P
03:35.23MonMothayes
03:35.28MonMothaif you're so intent on that, tell ibot :)
03:37.08sorphinibot: no, webpal schematics are at http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/Webpal_1.0.pdf
03:37.09sorphin: okay
03:37.22sorphinibot: webpal schematics
03:37.22rumour has it, webpal schematics is at http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/Webpal_1.0.pdf
03:37.25sorphin:P
03:37.52sorphinbtw
03:38.11sorphinon the drawing
03:45.17MonMothaI'm curious, what's so special about IDE D7?
03:45.56sorphinit shouldn't be wired to where it is on the .1 boards
03:46.09MonMothaI was asknig more generically
03:46.18MonMothait's the only IDE data pin that the superIO controller handles
03:46.24MonMothaall the others are just buffered right onto the local bus
03:46.41sorphinnot sure
03:53.35MonMothadoes the superio have internal pull ups on the pport input lines? or am I missing something?
03:53.40MonMotha(I know, I know, check the datasheet :)
03:55.07CosmicPenguinsorphin: keep that ClueBat (TM) handy
03:57.10sorphinanyone remeber the syntax tim used to display ibot's actual command it's been given? (i.e. show the <action>)
03:57.33MonMothaibot literal lart
03:57.33lart is <reply> Go to http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/
03:57.41MonMothahum...
03:57.47MonMothaibot literal lart $foo
03:57.48MonMotha: are you smoking crack?
03:58.58sorphinibot literal ~lart
03:58.59sorphin: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
03:59.32sorphinibot literal rlart
03:59.33rlart is <reply> see lart $randnick
04:00.06sorphindammit, what's the crap beer dave likes, i always forget it, cuz i don't like it
04:00.27CosmicPenguinsorphin: guiness?
04:00.33sorphinright
04:00.38sorphinibot literal guinness
04:00.39guinness is <action> pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to $nick
04:01.12sorphinibot: cluebat is <action> thwaps $nick with a ClueBat (tm)
04:01.12sorphin: okay
04:01.20sorphin~cluebat monmotha
04:01.51sorphinibot: cluebat monmotha
04:01.51parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, sorphin
04:01.56sorphingrr
04:01.58sorphinibot: cluebat
04:01.59ACTION thwaps sorphin with a ClueBat (tm)
04:02.05MonMothahah
04:02.16sorphinhmm
04:02.23sorphinsomeone changed guinness then
04:02.39sorphinibot: guinness cp
04:02.43ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to cp
04:02.57sorphinibot: forget cluebat
04:02.57i forgot cluebat, sorphin
04:04.38MonMothaibot seen prpplague
04:04.38prpplague <~JoeBob1@12.148.134.9> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 5h 15m 41s ago, saying: 'CosmicPenguin: thanks'.
04:04.43sorphini don't get it
04:04.50sorphinit SHOULD work
04:04.57sorphinibot literal seen
04:04.58sorphin: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
04:05.08sorphinhmm
04:05.16MonMothaI think seen is provided by a different means
04:05.21sorphinnod
04:05.31sorphinjust trying to figure out why guinness works
04:05.34sorphinbut cluebat won't
04:05.37sorphinusing the same method
04:06.34sorphinibot: cluebat is <action> pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps $nick.
04:06.35sorphin: okay
04:06.51MonMothaibot guinness sorphin
04:06.52ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to sorphin
04:06.57sorphinibot: cluebat monmotha
04:06.58sorphin: are you smoking crack?
04:06.59MonMothaibot guinness
04:07.00ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to monmotha
04:07.03sorphingrr
04:07.07MonMothaibot literal guinness $nick
04:07.09ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to $nick
04:07.22MonMothaI bet it's two different definitions
04:07.24sorphinibot: cluebat
04:07.24ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps sorphin.
04:07.29sorphindammit
04:07.33MonMothaone for just guinness and one for giving one to another nick
04:07.46sorphindoesn't appear so
04:08.03sorphinibot: no, cluebat is <action> pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps $nick.
04:08.04i already had it that way, sorphin
04:08.10sorphinibot: die
04:08.11ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
04:08.14kergothibot: cluebat $nick is <action> pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps $nick.
04:08.15okay, kergoth
04:08.17kergothibot: cluebat sorphin
04:08.19ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps sorphin.
04:08.30sorphinoh yeah
04:08.33sorphinthat's what it was
04:08.43sorphinkergoth: thanks digiwhore
04:08.45kergothibot: make life
04:08.47make: Circular life <- life dependency dropped.
04:08.47kergothnp
04:09.04sorphinibot: make guinness
04:09.05make: Circular guinness <- guinness dependency dropped.
04:09.14sorphinbah
04:09.16sorphinyou changed it
04:09.21kergothhehe
04:09.45kergothibot: no, make $target is <reply> make: *** No rule to make target `$target'.  Stop.
04:09.46kergoth: okay
04:09.50sorphin:)
04:09.51kergothibot: make guinness
04:09.52make: *** No rule to make target `guinness'.  Stop.
04:13.18CosmicPenguinkergoth: I wish that worked... :)
04:13.40kergothhehe
04:14.43MonMothaibot make bzImage
04:14.44make: *** No rule to make target `bzImage'.  Stop.
04:14.58MonMothaibot tar jxvf linux-2.4.20.tar.bz2
04:14.59no idea, MonMotha
04:15.07MonMothaor y if you're a GNU person
04:16.10CosmicPenguinMonMotha: what, like a baby?
04:16.42MonMotha?
04:17.51CosmicPenguinMonMotha: you know, a GNU person.. :)
04:18.07MonMothaah
04:18.09MonMothafunny
04:19.02sorphinlame
04:21.03CosmicPenguinsorphin: what the hell do you know?
04:22.47sorphinCosmicPenguin: a lot?
04:24.23CosmicPenguinibot: how much does sorphin know?
04:24.23CosmicPenguin: I don't know, could you explain it?
04:24.43sorphinibot: cluebat CosmicPenguin
04:24.44ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps CosmicPenguin.
04:24.51CosmicPenguinuncool
04:25.29sorphinCosmicPenguin: prodded the pointy haired bosses bout pixil ?
04:26.25CosmicPenguinsorphin: yeah, but no news yet
04:26.38sorphinnod
04:29.33sorphinhmm
04:29.38sorphinthe gdb crap won't work
04:31.28sorphinyay
04:31.28sorphinfinally
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04:48.11GPSFanhey sorphin: how's it goin
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04:48.37sorphinGPSFan: you tell me ;)
04:48.51sorphinWebpal Linux Loader. V2.1  11/15/2002
04:48.51sorphinEnter CTRL-A to enter programmer.
04:48.51sorphinWebpal PC board Version PWB-117A Ver.01
04:48.51sorphinSetting boot parameters
04:48.51sorphinRoot mounted read/write.
04:48.51sorphinMemory:
04:48.53sorphin<PROTECTED>
04:48.55sorphinBoot parameters: video=acorn:dram:384k parport=0x278,13
04:48.57sorphinCopying kernel zImage...starting.                
04:48.59sorphin:)
04:49.16GPSFanget a login?
04:49.39sorphinheh, need an image w/ a root for that
04:50.10sorphinall it does atm is sits there and flashes the yellow LED at me :P
04:50.26GPSFanoh, read the backwash reeally quickly and though you had one on a HDD.
04:50.32GPSFangot a nic?
04:52.00GPSFanI'm actually using one of mine to do some usefull work. It's reading out a remote weather station data logger and converting the binary data to readable form.
04:54.25sorphinmy serial board is wedged between the heatsink and the xtal
04:55.10sorphinand split a MB -> db cable
04:55.50GPSFansorphin: are you going to use the IR kbd/mouse, or do you need the 2nd serial port.
04:56.52sorphinGPSFan: undecided atm
04:57.05sorphinGPSFan: you saw my mention that maxim sent me MAX225's instead of 235s ?
04:58.19GPSFanI think I remember that from a few days ago, I sent for some max 235's and 225's, and only got the 225's so far, thay may be out of sample stock.
04:59.12sorphinnod
05:00.15GPSFanI have had sample orders just vanish though even after a confirming e-mail. Rare, but it's happened.
05:00.32sorphinit took forever for these, they picked em on the 7th :P
05:01.34GPSFan;>(
05:02.22sorphingot a root/kernel handy i can mess w/?
05:04.52GPSFansorphin: I used the one from here: http://www.anycities.com/user/webpal/debian.html and followed their instructions, first as NFS then on the HDD.
05:05.18sorphinah
05:05.20GPSFanwith minor tweaks, it's still the one I'm running.
05:12.07GPSFanbigbrd says it is at 0x06000.
05:12.18kergothhrmph
05:12.33sorphinGPSFan: i meant rather how to mess w/ it :P
05:12.34kergothhow the hell do i deal with modversions when building a kernel module from assembly sources
05:16.04GPSFanah, I set up my ip address stuff there as well as the serial console baud rate. you can muck it up pretty badly and not hurt anything.
05:16.25sorphinGPSFan: how do you _access_ it? :P
05:17.25GPSFanusing wpflash, you write a file to it, then when the box boots the kernel it uses data from the params partition.
05:17.45sorphinah
05:18.12sorphinso i could, for example: wpflash read params ?
05:18.19sorphinto see what it thinks they are now ?
05:19.21GPSFanadd a filename at the end of that command to store them in.
05:19.53GPSFanI used wpflash to backup my entire origina flash image.
05:20.40sorphindone that already
05:20.48sorphinthat was in the bootstrap procedure
05:21.35GPSFanyou will never want to go back to that image ;>). as long as you don't over-write the bootloader you can always recover.
05:23.22sorphinnod
05:23.30GPSFanI used bigbrd's example parameters as a starting point: http://webpal.bigbrd.com/bootp.tar.gz
05:23.43sorphinnod
05:24.28sorphinGPSFan: heh, and i thought the 1 sec delay on blob was too damn fast
05:24.34sorphinso is hitting Ctrl-A to get the programmer
05:24.54GPSFanmy linux box is already set up for nfs, so I used the nfs version first with the debian rootfs.
05:25.31GPSFanwhen I reflash a partition I start wpflash first the reset the wp, no ^-A neccessary
05:25.33sorphindammit SOB.. %*$@(%*@$(*%@#
05:25.46sorphini get into the programmer w/ ctrl-a
05:25.47GPSFans/the/then
05:25.50sorphinthen run wpflash
05:26.03sorphinsays "reboot to begin programming"
05:26.07sorphinfscking POS
05:28.16GPSFanI have serialbootp=1 so I don't have to hold down SW1. just run wpflash, and reset when it says to.
05:29.47sorphinwell, i need to be able to set that 1st :P
05:30.48GPSFanyeah, I guess I had to do that the first time too, it's been a couple of weeks since I did it. I guess I'll hve to learn it all over again when I go and do the second one.
05:31.16sorphinmaybe i'll buy a 3rd from dave, since i do have one more 233 ;)
05:33.48GPSFan;>) I gotta leave mine running all night to track down a bug in my datalogger interface. sofar it's been going 13 hours straight, with no hickups. but yesterday while I was away the network interface "locked-up" and refused to accept a connection. Reset fixed it but I gotta find out what's going on.
05:33.59sorphinnod
05:35.53GPSFanI think spurious characters are filling up the wireless network interfaces buffer when there is no TCP connection, then when I try to establish one the interface barfs.
05:36.49sorphinnod
05:39.07GPSFanwhen I run the program in the wp, it connects and collects data forever, never disconnecting. if it runs ok overnight, I'll know it has to do with what happens when there is no TCP connection.
05:39.52GPSFantime for zz land g'night...
05:41.39sorphinibot: cluebat gpsfan
05:41.40ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps gpsfan.
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15:10.25prpplaguehowdy all
15:10.34*** mode/#eLinux [+o prpplague] by ChanServ
15:11.01fileall would be a nice term, if people were awake to respond
15:16.09GPSFanhi prpplague: cu later I'm off to the "big city" for the day...
15:16.15GPSFanhi file...
15:16.18prpplagueGPSFan: later
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15:21.42sievelo all
15:22.23filehello sieve
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15:34.13cosmic_awayeh
15:34.26filehi CosmicPenguin
15:36.58ade|desklo all
15:47.44sorphinade|desk: lo
15:47.50CosmicPenguininteresting - I just got a e-mail virus that was crafted like a postmaster "undeliverable" e-mail
15:47.58sorphinCosmicPenguin: that's nothing new
15:48.09CosmicPenguinsorphin: never seen one before like that
15:48.14sorphini've had prolly everything go thorugh one of my inboxes atleast once
15:48.17ade|deskindeed , i get one most weeks
15:48.44CosmicPenguinWell, since my e-mail address isn't on as many pr0n sites as sorphin's, this stuff takes longer to reach me... :P
15:48.58sorphinCosmicPenguin: um.. nor is mine
15:49.42CosmicPenguinsorphin: too early in the morning for jokes?
15:50.22sorphinCosmicPenguin: considering i feel like shit, but have to be at work anyways, because of the upgrade shit going on
15:50.30sorphinthis week is too early for jokes
15:50.48CosmicPenguinsorphin: if you can't joke, what fun is it?
15:51.05CosmicPenguinWell, anyway, I'll keep it to a minimum, just for you
15:52.08prpplagueanyone had problems with data syncing to a hd when using a db?
15:52.28sorphinCosmicPenguin: thanks
15:52.39sorphinprpplague: got my WP + serial working last night
15:53.16CosmicPenguinprpplague: whatdb?
15:55.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: its our proprietary one
15:56.38CosmicPenguinprpplague: ahh...
15:57.29prpplagueCosmicPenguin: we getting a strange problem with some duplicate records, its running on one of those brand new dual xeon 2.8's with hyperthreading
15:58.06CosmicPenguinprpplague: damn.... do you have multiple processes running then?
15:58.43prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you mean multiple instances of the db?
15:59.17CosmicPenguinprpplague: lets say mutiple processes writing to the same inode... :)
15:59.52prpplagueCosmicPenguin: possible
15:59.57CosmicPenguinprpplague: IIRC, hyperthreading works just like SMP
16:00.03prpplagueCosmicPenguin: right
16:00.20prpplagueCosmicPenguin: we have tried it with and without the hyperthreading, that doesn't seem to be the cause
16:00.24CosmicPenguinahh
16:01.13prpplaguesome said "it seems like it doing partial writes on the db" which kinda got me think about sync
16:04.22CosmicPenguinprpplague: that wouldn't account for duplicates, though, would it?
16:04.56kergothhey
16:05.41sorphinkergoth: morning mr digi
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16:22.17prhanyone done anything useful with the DSP under linux on the Tux?
16:24.11prpplagueprh: i made a keychain out my dsp chip
16:25.06prhAhh
16:26.27CosmicPenguinprh:  it almost completely works, if thats what you mean
16:27.46prpplaguei guess i could hook up the dsp board on my daughter board
16:30.42prhooh - what can you do with it?
16:31.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ya what can you do with it?
16:33.53CosmicPenguintalk on the phone?
16:33.55CosmicPenguinread caller id?
16:34.06CosmicPenguin??
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16:38.10prpplaguesjhill: hey hey
16:38.15sjhilldude
16:38.23kergothyo sjhill
16:38.27sjhillhey kergoth
16:38.41sjhillhi andersee
16:38.44sjhillhowdy TimRiker
16:39.04sjhillthat's better
16:39.54anderseesjhill: morning
16:40.05prhCosmicPenguin: excellent! where can I find the code to do all that?
16:44.12CosmicPenguinprh: its all in the buildroot
16:57.24Russ|werkandersee: busybox list - <michael@dragon.boscom.com>
16:57.24Russ|werk(reason: 550 Host unknown)
16:57.49sorphinibot: cluebat sjhill
16:57.51ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps sjhill.
16:58.11sjhillsorphin: g'day :)
16:58.27fileGreetings oh Nino God.
16:58.50sorphinibot: cluebat CosmicPenguin
16:58.52ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps CosmicPenguin.
16:58.53sorphinjust for good measure ;)
16:58.59Russ|werkibot: !lart
16:59.00i don't know, Russ|werk
16:59.01Russ|werker
16:59.04Russ|werkibot: ~`lart
16:59.05Russ|werk: i haven't a clue
16:59.05sorphinhaha
16:59.06Russ|werkack
16:59.09Russ|werkibot: ~lart
16:59.09Russ|werk: I don't know, could you explain it?
16:59.12sjhilllol
16:59.16sorphinibot: cluebat russ|werk
16:59.19ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps russ|werk.
16:59.19Russ|werkhow did that work again?
16:59.19Russ|werk~lart
16:59.39sorphin~lart Russ|werk
16:59.56sjhillRuss|werk: so you like hitting yourself with bats?
17:00.02Russ|werk~lart ibot
17:00.06Russ|werkhmmm
17:00.11sorphinhaha
17:00.18sorphinpoor russ
17:00.26Russ|werksorphin--
17:00.44Russ|werk~lobotomy
17:00.45I feel different somehow.
17:01.08Russ|werk~kick sorphin
17:01.31fileI have no gotten a free AOL CD in ages
17:01.33fileer not
17:01.34sjhill~lart file
17:01.42Russ|werkfile: want one?
17:01.47fileRuss|werk: not really
17:01.52CosmicPenguinsorphin: quit it with the cluebat
17:01.55Russ|werk~cupstats
17:02.00Russ|werk~cpustats
17:02.00Total CPU usage: 4224.0 s ... Total used: 0.46 % (parent/child ratio: 80.4 %)
17:02.11sjhillwhere is ibot anyway?
17:02.19CosmicPenguinibot: make bzImage
17:02.20make: *** No rule to make target `bzImage'.  Stop.
17:02.20Russ|werk~status
17:02.21Since Wed Jan  8 10:31:51 2003, there have been 170 modifications and 614 questions and 291 dunnos and 14 morons and 749 commands.  I have been awake for 13d 6h 30m 29s this session, and currently reference 84379 factoids.  I'm using about 16660 kB of memory.
17:02.36CosmicPenguinibot: you're getting beefy
17:02.36wish i knew, CosmicPenguin
17:02.43filethat's odd - all those 666's
17:02.44sorphinCosmicPenguin: i thought you liked your cluebat :P
17:02.48Russ|werk~dict beefy
17:03.05sjhill~dict idiot
17:03.06sorphinibot: location
17:03.07sorphin: I give up, what is it?
17:03.40Russ|werk~join #nvidia
17:04.03sjhillheh
17:04.21sorphinsjhill: install that irix yet? :P
17:04.50sjhillsorphin: no, i don't know how to go about it
17:04.58sjhillsorphin: i was hoping to hit you up for that later
17:05.16sorphinah
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17:50.12prpplagueTimRiker: hey you alive?
17:55.39scanlineCosmicPenguin: hmm.. you here?
17:55.45scanlinethis is creepy
17:56.06sorphinThey're all dead!
17:56.21scanlineapparently Royal is "very far along in the development of both hardware and software" for a picogui and linux PDA
17:56.35sorphinscanline: i don't buy it ;)
17:56.41scanlineyeah
17:56.51sorphinscanline: just like that PDA they told prpplague about, that is vaporware
17:56.56scanlinesays they have "PIM, email, browsing, multi-media"...
17:57.05scanlinehow do they write a browser with what PicoGUI can do so far?
17:57.22sorphinscanline: w/ vapor of course ;)
17:57.26scanlineoh, of course
17:57.56sorphinnod
17:58.31CosmicPenguinscanline: heh - thats all so familiar, it ain't funny
17:58.44scanlineha
17:59.02sorphinibot: cluebat Royal
17:59.07ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Royal.
17:59.11sorphinCosmicPenguin: :)
18:01.10CosmicPenguinhey
18:01.15CosmicPenguins/y/h/
18:01.25CosmicPenguinscanline: we want screen shots!
18:01.34scanlineor source code :)
18:01.48CosmicPenguinscanline: just out of curiosity, who did you get the e-mail from?
18:01.55scanlineBob Smith
18:02.03CosmicPenguinYep!  Thats the guy!
18:02.05scanlinehaha
18:02.27scanlinesays they have a "manufacturing partner" doing all this magic
18:02.46CosmicPenguinscanline: thats prolly three guys in China
18:02.48scanlineAt this stage, it's pretty near impossible to do a usable web browser without modifying pgserver... and that's GPL'ed
18:03.12CosmicPenguinscanline: are they looking for a license change?
18:03.15scanlineno
18:03.25scanlineI'm just speculating what they might have done
18:03.39scanline- built a crappy web browser using picogui's canvas widget
18:03.43sorphinscanline: know anyone who's collected knight rider? :P
18:03.48scanline- used something wacky directly to the framebuffer
18:03.53scanline- modified pgserver
18:03.57scanlinesorphin: nope
18:04.08sorphinscanline: ah well
18:04.13sorphinscanline: how bout airwolf? :)
18:04.19scanlineI've never seen knight rider actually
18:04.20scanlinehmm
18:04.32scanlineI think I've seen my roommate with some airwolf, not sure if he still has it though
18:04.34levi_Mmm, those were my favorite tv shows.
18:04.41sorphinhmm
18:04.44sorphinairwolf dvds
18:04.45sorphininteresting
18:04.58levi_I was a kid back then, though, so they may suck now.
18:05.25sorphinbah, all VHS in england :P
18:05.27sorphinwtf
18:05.37sorphinstupid IMDB doesnt know squat
18:57.00prpplaguesorphin: i want the logan's run tv series
19:08.33sorphinprpplague: too damn bad
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19:30.28Russ|werk(thats my sign on my bad ceo chamber)
19:32.14sorphinheh
19:41.58scanlinenice sign
19:42.07filemy maxim IC stuff just came LOL
19:42.32scanlinefile with ICs? what will they think of next!
19:42.36fileLOL
19:42.40filethey were free :p
19:44.11scanlinewow, my hard-disk-platter-o-LSI-chips is spinning freely
19:46.55filesorphin: did you ever get your stuff?
19:49.47fileI'm missing stuff
19:49.47filegah
19:54.12sorphinCosmicPenguin: scary
19:57.24fileI have a Dual CAN High-Speed Microprocessor
19:57.29fileand I don't remember ordering it
20:09.17CosmicPenguinsorphin: scary?
20:14.38sorphinCosmicPenguin: yup
20:18.38CosmicPenguinsorphin: why?
20:26.42sorphinCosmicPenguin: anyone that goes and buys 802.11 gear is just scary
20:27.30kergothI own a 802.11 cf card.. but no AP :)
20:27.51sorphinkergoth: well, we already know you're deranged, chris ;)
20:28.07kergothgood point
20:28.31sorphinafter all
20:28.35sorphinyou work for digi ;)
20:28.36filesorphin: did you ever get your Maxim stuff?
20:29.00sorphindigi, king of serial port mutilators
20:29.48sorphinkergoth: i see sharp shoved their head back up their ass
20:30.20kergothsorphin: indeed. they cant spare a person to recompile a fucking module against a new set of kernel soruces. just a fucking recompile.
20:30.48filekergoth: give me good news
20:31.07sorphinkergoth: course not, they're too busy releasing another pda w/ a still fscked processor (XScale)
20:31.28kergothsorphin: yep. they shouldve waited and released them with a newer stepping
20:32.03sorphinkergoth: my poor Z prolly thinks i've forgotten about it
20:33.16sorphinleast pci-sig is prolly gonna back off and the pci list may return
20:38.47CosmicPenguinsorphin: 801.11B rules... hell, if my neighbors want in thats their business
20:39.08sorphinumm
20:39.09sorphinright
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20:53.27LWATCDRanyone here use microwindows?
20:53.45LWATCDRI can not seem to get any of the demos to run.
20:53.52sorphincosmicpenguin does ;)
20:54.25LWATCDRWhen I tried to run a nano-x program with the server it told me that it could not init the keyboard.
20:54.47LWATCDRI used the x11 config and I am using a USB keyboard but it works for x.
20:54.58sorphinCosmicPenguin: sounds like your cue ;)
20:56.22LWATCDRI wonder where he is?
20:57.08sorphin18 mins idle
20:57.11prpplagueprobably dealing with his boss
20:57.28sorphinprpplague: s/dealing with/servicing/
20:57.33prpplaguelol
20:57.35LWATCDRahh. He is not lagged.
20:59.22CosmicPenguinhello
21:00.57LWATCDRI am having an issue with Microwindows.
21:01.05CosmicPenguinshoot
21:01.35LWATCDRI can not get the demos to run. I am using the config.x11 under linux
21:01.40CosmicPenguinok
21:01.44LWATCDRi did the make clean; make
21:01.45CosmicPenguinwhat are the symptoms
21:02.05LWATCDRwhen I run the nano-x server it says it can not init the keyboard
21:04.42LWATCDRactually it says KDGKMODE invalid argument
21:05.06LWATCDRthen it says can not initalize the keyboard.
21:05.30LWATCDRthen the client can not connect.
21:06.31LWATCDRI wonder if the got dragged off again.
21:10.44CosmicPenguinhold on
21:11.24LWATCDRNo rush. I am greatful for any help I can get.
21:18.46CosmicPenguinAd you are using config.x11?
21:19.37CosmicPenguinThats an important distiction - if you are using the X11 driver, it should automatically use the same keyboard and mouse as the X11 server.
21:20.28CosmicPenguinBut if you are building for a framebuffer driver, you need to make sure that 1) you built the right TTY driver, and 2) that you are using the right console for input
21:21.06LWATCDRI did cp config.x11 config
21:21.23LWATCDRThat should set it to use config.x11 correct?
21:23.28LWATCDRI am doing a make clean make right now.
21:24.00CosmicPenguinthe config.x11 requires XWindows to run correctly.  Is that what you want?
21:25.35MonMothahum, I wish Intel would actually send those dev guides they said they would
21:26.15LWATCDRYes for now. I have x and kde running on the machine with out any issues.
21:26.28LWATCDRThis is for testing and getting my feet wet.
21:27.06CosmicPenguinOk.  Because you are acting like a X11 client, you should be using the X11 drivers for everything
21:27.16CosmicPenguinBut it seems that your config is building in the tty driver by accident
21:27.33LWATCDRWhat should I turn off?
21:29.32LWATCDRI think I found it. I hate to sound dumb but the make file uses the config file in src and not in src/Configs doesn't it?
21:30.37LWATCDRThat was it. I copied the config.x11 to the wrong place. I had it in the Configs dir.
21:30.44CosmicPenguinThat would do it
21:30.46LWATCDRThank you for your help.
21:30.47LWATCDRexit
21:31.12CosmicPenguinNo idle chit chat there
21:31.26fileMonMotha: I got my Maxim IC stuff
21:31.45CosmicPenguinso sorphin - you don't think I can lock down my box?
21:32.18fileMonMotha: correction 3/8 of it, and a mystery item
21:35.30Russ|werkSubject: Safety tip: Protecting against porn
21:36.38MonMothaand a mystery item
21:38.44MonMothawhat is said mystery item?
21:39.33sorphinCosmicPenguin: eh ?
21:42.29fileMonMotha: I dunno
21:42.39fileMonMotha: there's only 1, and it has no label
21:43.04MonMothaI'm pretty sure maxim labels all their parts...though you may need magnification to read it on some of their smaller packages
21:43.13MonMothamaxim has some REALLY SMALL packagin
21:43.14MonMothag
21:43.18fileMonMotha: all the rest came with stickers
21:43.22filethat listed the info
21:43.32filethis isn't a chip
21:43.39MonMothawhat is it then?
21:44.04filereminds me of the head on a floppy drive... that reads the disk
21:44.36fileor a light sensing unit...
21:44.41MonMothamight be a uCSP package :)
21:45.29fileI also got an LCD Decoder Driver... 900MHz Transceiver... and a Dual CAN High-Speed Microprocessor
21:46.30prpplaguefile: what is all that for?
21:46.35fileprpplague: nothing :)
21:46.38fileprpplague: free samples
21:46.50MonMothaI usually ask for stuff I have a chance of using...
21:46.59fileMonMotha: well I might use this stuff
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21:47.09filethe Microprocessor is tempting
21:48.28fileThe DS80C390 dual CAN (Controller Area Network) high-speed microcontroller starts with a 40MHz core that performs like a standard 8051 at 120MHz and adds an array of resources that give it the edge in high-speed, high-noise embedded processing environments.
21:49.17fileinteresting
21:49.27CosmicPenguinsounds fun
21:49.39fileCosmicPenguin: well I've got two..
21:50.17CosmicPenguinfile: http://www.pjrc.com/tech/8051/
21:50.27CosmicPenguinfile: just for fun... :)
21:50.44file:)
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22:04.01fileCosmicPenguin: I need the rest of the parts
22:04.27sorphinMonMotha: i think he's just trying to fit in w/ all that we're doing :P
22:04.35sorphinas_: tosser
22:04.35MonMothasorphin: ah :)
22:07.51sjhillfscking yacc/bison
22:08.06sorphinibot: cluebat sjhill
22:08.08ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps sjhill.
22:08.26sjhillthx, i needed that
22:08.49sorphinsjhill: i can tell ;)
22:09.06sorphinsjhill: stop thinking in MIPS :P
22:09.29sjhillnot doing mips, doing vtun
22:09.31sjhillvpn crap
22:09.38sorphinheh
22:09.43sorphinthat's what my dept does, vpn shit
22:10.04sjhillheh, got it
22:10.10sjhillhack the '.y' file
22:10.14sorphinyup
22:10.36fileyes?
22:21.35sorphinCosmicPenguin: my sympathies ;)
22:28.05Russ|werkyou mean .Trash?
22:28.23Russ|werkaka, trash://
22:28.42CosmicPenguinWindows 98 so she can use her own damn machine and quit using mine
22:29.09sorphinCosmicPenguin: um.. jordan, you'd do better w/ 2k :P atleast 2k's *stable* :P
22:29.24filefor once I agree with sorphin
22:29.47fileif you want a copy I'll have the CD tomorrow - I can zip the files up and e-mail 'em over
22:29.59fileor rather DCC
22:36.05CosmicPenguinsorphin: I've got no choice in the matter .... hell, I don't care one way or the other
22:36.27CosmicPenguinIts her computer, and thats what shes got on it
22:41.14Russ|werkandersee: umm...cvs commit messages are coming from russ@busybox.net and are being held for moderation
22:41.45Russ|werkI'm subscribed as Russ.Dill@asu.edu
22:51.48MonMothaibot seen prpplague
22:51.48prpplague <~JoeBob1@12.148.134.9> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 52m 55s ago, saying: 'gotta run guys, bbl'.
23:04.15anderseeRuss|werk: hmm
23:04.36anderseeRuss|werk: I changed the lists so non-subscribers were moderated
23:04.49anderseeRuss|werk: Looks like I need to adjust things a bit
23:05.06Russ|werkallow for *busybox.net
23:06.01anderseeRuss|werk: I guess I stuck in "*@busybox.net"
23:06.10anderseeRuss|werk: seems that doesn't work
23:06.13Russ|werkthat should work
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23:28.50anderseeRuss|werk: perhaps it uses full regex and needs .*@

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