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| 03:22.46 | Agarwal | anybody ever tried to extend the wires from the LCD to the comm board on the Tuxscreen? |
| 03:22.58 | Agarwal | I remember seeing something like that on the Wiki, but can't find it anymore... |
| 03:23.26 | Agarwal | I tried with what I had available, and IDE cable and a header connector, and it didn't work :( |
| 03:23.41 | Agarwal | (an IDE cable, not and) |
| 03:24.15 | Agarwal | let me know even if you guys read this in like 6 hours :) |
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| 03:53.38 | TomW | jacques: hello |
| 04:02.02 | kergoth | hey all |
| 04:03.21 | Agarwal | hey there |
| 04:15.20 | TomW | kergoth: tough day at the "button"? |
| 04:53.18 | jacques | hi TomW :-) |
| 04:53.43 | TomW | jacques: hey! you are still awake, eh? |
| 04:54.10 | TomW | jacques: well, it is only 9PM, eh? |
| 05:12.49 | Agarwal | anybody ever tried to extend the wires from the LCD to the comm board on the Tuxscreen? |
| 05:15.47 | TomW | Agarwal: yeah, in a way. |
| 05:16.13 | Agarwal | ok... I tried with an IDE cable (what I had on hand) and simply didnt work... |
| 05:16.39 | Agarwal | however I know its possible, as I remember someone on the wiki had it work with a ~1 meter cable... |
| 05:16.45 | TomW | Agarwal: http://www.openhardware.net/TuxScreen/StrongARM-perf.html |
| 05:17.27 | Agarwal | checking it out... |
| 05:18.08 | TomW | Agarwal: you don't want to go very far with an extension. The IPC cable is about 30pf of capacitance per foot, that will fsck up the signal waveforms somewhat. The longer you go, the worse the distortion on the signals get. |
| 05:18.22 | Agarwal | shit, only got a console browser, so I cant see the pictures right now... |
| 05:18.56 | Agarwal | that's what I tought, but that guy on the wiki said there were absolutely no distortion with his extension... |
| 05:19.14 | TomW | Agarwal: nothing really important on that site. just that I took one of the CPU boards and mounted it on a perf board to eliminate the analog board of the Tux. |
| 05:19.33 | TomW | Agarwal: yeah, well, ... YMMV. |
| 05:19.38 | Agarwal | oki... |
| 05:20.28 | Agarwal | YMMV? (sorry english is not mu mother tongue...) |
| 05:20.39 | Agarwal | mu = my |
| 05:22.13 | Agarwal | what do you think it the longest I could go? |
| 05:26.08 | TomW | Agarwal: IMO, I wouldn't go more than 8"..12" at the most. Why, how many feet(!) are you thinking of? |
| 05:28.20 | Agarwal | well, the screen is to be mounted seperately from the board in a car, so the longer the better... |
| 05:28.33 | Agarwal | 1m would have been perfect, but if you say it ain't possible... |
| 05:29.26 | Agarwal | I'd like to know more from that guy tho... it's a shame I cant find the wiki entry anymore. |
| 05:31.22 | Agarwal | ho, it's in QuestionsAndAnswers... |
| 05:32.10 | Agarwal | no info on the guy who did it tho. |
| 05:33.34 | TomW | Agarwal: you may consider this then: use 300 ohm bus driver reciever pairs to clean up the signals across the cable. Something like the 74LVC162245 (from phillips), or, use high voltage drivers like the RS232 drivers, or, use RS485 current differential transmitter / reciever pairs. |
| 05:34.11 | TomW | Agarwal: you treat the signals as you would across a backplane (motherboard card bus). |
| 05:34.24 | TomW | Agarwal: ... active termination, etc. |
| 05:34.47 | Agarwal | ok... basically, boosting the signal. |
| 05:36.06 | TomW | Agarwal: you would have to buffer the signals with logic, don't just slap pullup / pulldown resistors on the cable itself. IIRC, the SA1100 LCD drive circuitry is only, what, 2ma of output drive? You would have to use 3v to 5v level shifters, don't attach 5volt logic directly to the SA1100 as it is a 3.3v device! |
| 05:36.16 | TomW | Agarwal: not boosting, buffering. |
| 05:36.32 | Agarwal | I'll see what I can do, but electronics is not my field that much... |
| 05:36.59 | TomW | Agarwal: the signals are digital logic states: 1 or 0, they are not analog waveforms, so use digital buffer / driver techniques. |
| 05:37.51 | Agarwal | oki... I'll try to find more information on the phillips chip you listed, and will start from there. |
| 05:37.55 | TomW | Agarwal: well... for the stuff you are attempting to do, you should consider the implications! Electronic design is not that "black art" that everyone thinks it to be, it is just: details, details, details. |
| 05:38.59 | Agarwal | yeah well I know... just need somewhere to start, and it's kinda hard when your knowledge stops at resistors, diodes and such :) |
| 05:39.29 | TomW | Agarwal: so, take a Community College course on basic electronis. |
| 05:39.38 | TomW | s/electronis/electronics/ |
| 05:40.31 | Agarwal | no can do right now... I'm in CS in univ, and that eats wayyyyy too much time from me already :) |
| 05:40.36 | TomW | Agarwal: they even teach Ohms Law & some of Kirchoff's Laws in the basic electricity courses of VoTech Adult Education classes... |
| 05:40.52 | TomW | Agarwal: can you take an "elective"? |
| 05:41.16 | Agarwal | pardon my ignorance, but what is it exactly? |
| 05:41.31 | TomW | what is what? |
| 05:41.40 | Agarwal | an "elective" |
| 05:41.54 | sorphin | optional courses |
| 05:42.02 | sorphin | TomW: evening gramps |
| 05:42.24 | Agarwal | ho... :) sure. I can take almost any courses I like. |
| 05:42.41 | TomW | oh! An elective credit course. Most degree programs require you to take a few courses outside of your normal course (specialty) to make you a "more rounded individual". |
| 05:42.50 | Agarwal | IIRC... there's even an electronic courses listed as optionnal for the CS here... |
| 05:42.59 | TomW | sorphin: hi there, son. |
| 05:43.20 | Agarwal | but that would have to wait until next semester, and that's wayyy too long :( |
| 05:43.20 | sorphin | TomW: how's things ? |
| 05:44.15 | TomW | sorphin: ahhh, doing my fsck'ing bookwork tonite. Getting ready for Tax season. |
| 05:44.33 | sorphin | TomW: fun fun.. least i found out i'm gonna get $ back instead of having to pay |
| 05:45.10 | TomW | sorphin: I never get money back, at least since I went in business for myself, all I do is pay, pay, pay. |
| 05:45.50 | TomW | pay local, state and federal personal taxes, as well as pay sales tax collections... |
| 05:45.51 | Agarwal | you guys should still be happy about that... we're taxed like 50% here, + 15% buying taxes |
| 05:46.33 | sorphin | Agarwal: and your gov won't let you have satellite tv ;) |
| 05:46.54 | Agarwal | heheh :) |
| 05:47.37 | TomW | Agarwal: Canada? |
| 05:47.45 | Agarwal | yep |
| 05:47.53 | Agarwal | quebec |
| 05:47.56 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:47.57 | TomW | Agarwal: socialism sux. |
| 05:48.03 | sorphin | was just gonna say looks liek quebec |
| 05:48.26 | Agarwal | hahah... couldn't be more true. |
| 05:49.25 | TomW | Agarwal: I guess that is why we got so many of you "neighbors" down here living & working.. Something to be said for Capitalism & Greed, eh? |
| 05:50.28 | TomW | sorphin: he'll get his degree in Canada, then move to the U.S. to make a living. heh. |
| 05:50.33 | Agarwal | hahah... must be that. |
| 05:50.39 | sorphin | TomW: as usual |
| 05:50.44 | Agarwal | I' myself thinking of moving down there. |
| 05:51.07 | TomW | 'tis ok, the women are cute. Too bad mostly the guys come here tho. |
| 05:51.22 | sorphin | Agarwal: so.. your native is french perchance? |
| 05:51.26 | Agarwal | no good job in CS here anyway, and I wouldn't want to be paid like 15$ CDN an hour for a college + university diplomas... |
| 05:51.32 | Agarwal | sure is |
| 05:52.17 | sorphin | Quelle age est til? (been a while since i've spoken it so my grammar prolly sucks) |
| 05:52.41 | Agarwal | heheh :) |
| 05:53.00 | Agarwal | you're asking me how old I am, or the time? |
| 05:53.19 | Agarwal | age: Quelle âge as-tu? time: Quelle heure est-il? |
| 05:53.31 | sorphin | told ya my grammar was off |
| 05:53.38 | sorphin | plus it's midnight ;p |
| 05:53.50 | sorphin | Agarwal: Quelle age as-tu? |
| 05:54.33 | Agarwal | hehe :) I'm 21, 20 actually, but 21 in like 10 days... |
| 05:54.57 | sorphin | cool, pre happy bday |
| 05:55.03 | Agarwal | heheh thanks :) |
| 05:55.26 | Agarwal | I could go get some beers down there now that I'll be 21! :) |
| 05:55.48 | sorphin | yeah |
| 05:58.17 | TomW | Agarwal: the hell with the beer, get yourself a pretty American wife and then you can stay here without worries. |
| 05:58.56 | Agarwal | hehe... |
| 05:59.18 | Agarwal | what about having a baby down there? IIRC, that gives you the right to stay there too... |
| 05:59.55 | TomW | if you don't marry her , how you gonna say it's yours? |
| 06:00.18 | TomW | Trust me, marry the girl and kids will certainly come. |
| 06:00.29 | Agarwal | heheh :) |
| 06:00.56 | TomW | women bitch about it, but, IMO, they like to give birth. |
| 06:01.02 | Agarwal | anyway... my GF is in to go down there eventually. |
| 06:01.24 | Agarwal | well, my GF works with kid, so she certainly likes them ;) |
| 06:02.39 | TomW | Oh, I see what you meant, dual-citizenship for the child means you get to stay. Don't know about that, the kid can stay maybe and the parents get to leave? LOL |
| 06:03.41 | Agarwal | haha... would be kinda surprising :) |
| 06:04.32 | TomW | Agarwal: I went to Canada, once, for about 3 hours... Didn't like it, I felt uncomfortable, like "what should I do if I got into an auto accident, what are my rights". |
| 06:05.38 | TomW | Agarwal: culture shock type of thing, like having to drive around with your headlamps on in the daytime thingy. |
| 06:05.49 | Agarwal | heeh... well, knowing us, we would probably have paid you hospital and such... socialism! ;) |
| 06:06.25 | Agarwal | heheh :) Doesn't newer cars come with automatic daylights now in the US? |
| 06:06.39 | TomW | Agarwal: if! there was room at the hospital! I would have to make an appointment to get involved in a car crash? |
| 06:07.18 | TomW | Agarwal: now the GM cars do, but that was abt 6 years ago, my Ford LTD didn't have that feature. |
| 06:08.12 | Agarwal | heh... do you guys hear about our hospital system problems down there, or you just said that as a joke? |
| 06:08.14 | TomW | Agarwal: anyway, I was a bad boy in the '70s, I have been arrested for pot possesion, so I would have to get a Visa to visit. |
| 06:08.30 | Agarwal | you bad BAD boy :) |
| 06:08.50 | TomW | Agarwal: joke, have heard of some of the horror stories about the English & Canadian health care systems. |
| 06:09.25 | Agarwal | oki... that's the price we have to pay for a non-paying system :) |
| 06:10.21 | TomW | Agarwal: I had a blockage in an Artery to the heart, saw the doctor on Monday, he had me admitted to the specialized hospital that Wednesday, I drove myself home on Thursday after having had Angio-plasty (Stent put in the Artery). |
| 06:10.33 | Agarwal | there's speakings of a 2-speed healthcare system... which means we would have private clinics and such, which we don't have currently. But there's A LOT of ppl against it. |
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| 06:11.14 | Agarwal | ouch... I guess you would've waited AT LEAST 2 months for that here |
| 06:11.22 | TomW | yup |
| 06:11.29 | Agarwal | but then again... did you have to pay anything? |
| 06:11.37 | Agarwal | or you had insurance or something like that? |
| 06:11.49 | Agarwal | always wondered about how the healthcare system works in the US... |
| 06:12.38 | TomW | First time it cost me $31,000 and the state of Pennsylvannia eventually picked up the majority of the cost (I qualified for a program). Second time it only cost me $20, I had health insurance then. |
| 06:13.07 | Agarwal | ouch... $31,000 is about what... 4 millions CDN! :) |
| 06:13.26 | TomW | I purchase abt $700 USD of drugs every three months, it only costs me $60 for them. |
| 06:13.59 | Agarwal | so you have a good job I guess... insurances comes with the job, right? |
| 06:14.09 | TomW | naw, more like $53,000 CDN at current exchange rates. |
| 06:14.19 | Agarwal | I know, was only joking... |
| 06:15.05 | TomW | Agarwal: well, yes and no. I "work" for someone three days a month, he pays me $150 per week and I get full medical coverage under his company's medical plan. He has a killer medical plan! |
| 06:15.35 | TomW | Agarwal: I am a salaried worker for his company. |
| 06:15.36 | TomW | heh |
| 06:15.49 | Agarwal | hehe that's cool :) How "usual" is it for someone to get a medical plan with his job? |
| 06:16.11 | TomW | Agarwal: that is what I mean about culture shock. here I know how things work, in Canada I would be lost. |
| 06:16.39 | Agarwal | same for me, that's why I'm asking questions :) |
| 06:17.08 | TomW | Agarwal: about 40% of companies offer a medical plan. Most mid size, and up, businesses offer medical plans. The small businesses, like me, cannot really afford to offer it. |
| 06:17.44 | TomW | Agarwal: keep in mind, 50% of American business is "small business". |
| 06:17.55 | Agarwal | my own "culture shock" will be even stronger if I ever get down there... english is not my mother tongue, and I don't have much opportunities to practice spoken english here... |
| 06:18.18 | Agarwal | so that leaves a lot of ppl without insurance I guess... |
| 06:19.16 | TomW | Agarwal: enough that it is a real problem here. You can get emergency care via publicly funded hospitals, but you won't always get the greatest care at them. :( |
| 06:19.41 | Agarwal | I see... still better than nothing tho. |
| 06:20.19 | sorphin | TomW: i had no probs in canada, nor in england, never felt 'lost' |
| 06:21.17 | TomW | The attitude, though, is one of the best possible care regardless of income or social status. We Americans like to think of ourselves as a "classless society", but all practicalities taken into account, if the funding is not there, then the public hospitals are below the private hospitals in quality care / services. |
| 06:21.39 | TomW | sorphin: a real "cosmopolitan", eh? |
| 06:21.59 | sorphin | nah |
| 06:22.22 | Agarwal | yes, I understand what you mean. |
| 06:22.37 | Agarwal | having a "classless" society is basically the goal of our government. |
| 06:22.54 | Agarwal | but we are SO far from there, almost absurd. |
| 06:25.17 | TomW | Agarwal: yup, it is the same goal of the Democratic Party here in the States. The want to level the playing field just like it is in Canada, if you make more money than the next guy, they want to Tax it from you and give it to the poor lazy sucker who doesn't have enough money. |
| 06:26.46 | Agarwal | hehe... let's see how ppl would like to be taxes 52% on total incomes, + 15% buying taxes, + 80% taxes on gasoline and cigarettes and such :) |
| 06:26.49 | TomW | IMO, the Democratic Party has run amok, at one time I thought that they had a good agenda (20+ years ago), but they have gone so far to the extremes in the past 15 years! |
| 06:27.52 | Agarwal | how much is a gallon of gasoline these days? |
| 06:28.12 | TomW | $1.48 USD for 87 octane. |
| 06:28.22 | Agarwal | hehehe... |
| 06:28.28 | TomW | pretty much the same across the U.S. |
| 06:28.39 | Agarwal | it would be around 3.90$ CDN here. |
| 06:28.43 | TomW | sometimes higher, sometimes lower, but average. |
| 06:29.30 | TomW | What did you pay for 87 ocatane per gallon, IIRC you use imperial gallons or something? |
| 06:29.58 | Agarwal | and what some ppl don't understand is this: if someone gets paid $50,000 US for a job in the US, we would get paid 50,000$ CDN here... and not like 75,000$. |
| 06:30.08 | Agarwal | we use metrics here, so we pay by liters. |
| 06:30.25 | Agarwal | around 0.89$ for a liter these days. |
| 06:32.13 | TomW | yeah, you have to negotiate contracts based upon a particular currency & exchange rate. My sister is a purchasing agent for her company and they do a lot of equipment purchases with an outfit in Germany. They negotiate in DM or USD, depending. |
| 06:33.00 | TomW | Depending on what they can get away with (Dollar strengthening or weakening). |
| 06:33.15 | Agarwal | anyway... I wonder how hard it would be to find a job down there for a quebec frog... pretty hard I guess :) |
| 06:34.46 | TomW | Yeah, well, since the Internet jobs collapsed, there are a lot of software weenies out there looking for work. Too bad that most of them only know Visual Basic, VC++, or Cold Fusion! |
| 06:35.14 | TomW | humph, real hot demand for Visual Basic programs, right. |
| 06:35.22 | Agarwal | hehehehe |
| 06:35.51 | Agarwal | but hmm... aren't *good* c++/c programmers in demand? |
| 06:35.56 | TomW | As I understand it, Network Engineers and Network Security Engineers are in demand. |
| 06:36.26 | TomW | Agarwal: IMO, c/c++ is a skill, not a profession. |
| 06:36.45 | Agarwal | oki... like it, but not as much as actually coding. |
| 06:37.04 | Agarwal | agreed... but don't you think a skill *can* be a profession? |
| 06:37.05 | TomW | Agarwal: now you get to it, "coding" what> |
| 06:37.07 | TomW | . |
| 06:38.11 | TomW | Agarwal: nope, at one time if you were a "programmer" that is what you did. Nowdays, it is a question of WHAT you program: database, web, embedded, windoze apps, ... |
| 06:38.26 | TomW | ... financial. |
| 06:38.35 | TomW | ... telecommunications. |
| 06:38.49 | Agarwal | well... what I like the most actually (and I don't know the english name), is to have an business submit a problem, or a goal, or something... and then analyze the business, find what's appropriate, and do what's necessary. |
| 06:38.52 | TomW | each is a specialized field, profession. |
| 06:40.04 | TomW | What you are saying then, is that you want to work for a small company doing General Programming. If it deals with a computer, you get to figure out how to get it done. |
| 06:41.15 | Agarwal | well, not really with a small company... and in the context, you never work for the same company really long. You can have programmers working for you, and engineers and whatever, but you're on contract... |
| 06:41.26 | Agarwal | wouldn't be named something like *consultant* ? |
| 06:45.45 | TomW | Eh, I dunno, maybe the best way for you to understand the job market here is to goto http://dice.com or http://monster.com and take a look at what IS hiring. |
| 06:46.02 | Agarwal | ok, I'll take a look. |
| 06:46.20 | Agarwal | anyway, I'm going to bed now... |
| 06:46.23 | Agarwal | nice chatting with you :) |
| 06:46.25 | Agarwal | later! |
| 06:46.34 | TomW | IMO, you won't find ads for general purpose type of employment, most jobs require specific skillsets. |
| 06:46.47 | TomW | Agarwal: later. |
| 07:57.10 | TomW | sorphin: heh, cooking my books... |
| 07:57.13 | TomW | sorphin: :/ |
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| 13:54.40 | andersee | ibot: seen CosmicPenguin? |
| 13:54.40 | | cosmicpenguin is currently on #elinux (3m 16s) |
| 13:56.06 | sorphin | andersee: split prolly threw it off |
| 13:57.26 | andersee | sorphin: yeah, probably so |
| 13:57.46 | andersee | I figure Cosmic is still probably sleeping |
| 13:57.49 | sorphin | andersee: i know i've joked about you being up early, but THIS is rediculous ;) |
| 13:58.00 | sorphin | i just got up myself 25 mins ago ;p |
| 13:58.26 | sorphin | ibot: spell rediculous |
| 13:58.27 | | possible spellings for rediculous: ridiculous reticules ridicules meticulous reticule's ridicule's ridiculously radicals reticles ridiculer's reticulum |
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| 14:12.56 | andersee | Welcome to opensplits.net |
| 14:13.40 | andersee | sorphin: I went to bed about 9 last night, woke up at 6... |
| 14:13.53 | andersee | Pretty rare for me to get a good nights sleep |
| 14:14.04 | andersee | but it does happen |
| 14:17.12 | sorphin | ahh |
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| 15:27.48 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 15:28.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: erik was looking for you |
| 15:28.23 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: whats up? |
| 15:28.46 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 15:29.39 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Was just looking to see if you wanted to do some uClinux toolchain and userspace maintainence work? |
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| 16:06.13 | sorphin | prpplague: well hey stranger |
| 16:08.36 | prpplague | howdy |
| 16:13.09 | sorphin | prpplague: how's it? |
| 16:14.32 | prpplague | its going, tired and worn out |
| 16:14.42 | sorphin | indeed |
| 16:20.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: wb |
| 16:21.15 | prpplague | thanks |
| 16:21.33 | sorphin | prpplague: place isn't the same w/o you around ;) *grin* |
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| 16:21.55 | sorphin | and there's digiboy |
| 16:22.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it really isn't - this place has been soooo quiet for the last week or so |
| 16:23.04 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:23.27 | sorphin | kergoth: look who the POS dragged back in *points at dave* |
| 16:23.29 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:24.21 | kergoth | hehe, i see that |
| 16:24.57 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, why? no one to make bad jokes? |
| 16:25.29 | sorphin | prpplague: nah |
| 16:25.43 | sorphin | prpplague: you know damn well everyone in here considers you a friend (least the regulars) |
| 16:26.29 | sorphin | scanline: and there's mr picogui |
| 16:29.43 | andersee | ibot: seen sjhill? |
| 16:29.47 | | sjhill <~NOYB@207-191-210-241.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 1d 20h 48m 40s ago, saying: 'Russ|werk: better watch it...RMK will have your fingers'. |
| 16:31.42 | prpplague | sorphin: thanks |
| 16:59.01 | Morn | sorphin: you there? |
| 16:59.23 | sorphin | Morn: indeed i am |
| 16:59.40 | Morn | I just found out SmartRipper doesn't care about what region a DVD is |
| 16:59.47 | Morn | it'll rip just fine |
| 17:00.12 | Morn | without any funky programs to modify the Region code |
| 17:00.15 | sorphin | yup |
| 17:00.29 | Morn | I thought I would have to play games, but it was ok |
| 17:00.29 | sorphin | i use dvddecrypter |
| 17:00.40 | Morn | I'm going to try to convert PAL to NTSC |
| 17:00.49 | sorphin | Morn: hehe, good luck |
| 17:00.55 | Morn | it's for my psych doctor, he wanted to watch a movie that is only avialable overseas |
| 17:01.01 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: ugh - thats gonna be difficult |
| 17:01.02 | sorphin | that's a lil painful, but something i'll prolly be needing to do |
| 17:01.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: not really difficult, but annoying, yes |
| 17:01.14 | Morn | I read it is possible |
| 17:01.27 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it just won't look right |
| 17:01.40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: it will if you know what you're doing ;) |
| 17:01.47 | Morn | I told him to get one DVD and I would do it and he can see if it is acceptable |
| 17:01.52 | Morn | before he gets the rest |
| 17:03.48 | sorphin | good idea |
| 17:04.04 | Morn | sheesh, this DVD isn't even encrypted |
| 17:04.09 | Morn | just has a Region Code set |
| 17:04.11 | sorphin | Morn: any idea how the author of dvd2one plans on dealing w/ new revs ? |
| 17:04.22 | sorphin | Morn: i've seen that before |
| 17:04.42 | Morn | sorphin: not really... it looked like the next few upgrades would be free |
| 17:04.44 | Morn | here's hoping |
| 17:04.56 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:05.00 | sorphin | well, if not |
| 17:05.03 | sorphin | i have my sources anyways |
| 17:07.06 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: instead of painfully converting the NTSC/PAL, just get one of these: http://www.markertek.com/MTStore/product.CFM?BaseItem=TR%2D20 |
| 17:07.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i could just play it in my xbox and snag the output from that too.. |
| 17:08.11 | sorphin | cuz i'm not paying $719 :P |
| 17:08.31 | prpplague | well i gotta run guys, bbl |
| 17:08.34 | sorphin | Morn: i tried it last night (dvd2one) |
| 17:08.36 | sorphin | prpplague: take care |
| 17:10.23 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, but that $719 would suit you well... :) |
| 17:10.36 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: eh? |
| 17:10.37 | CosmicPenguin | Better than paying $500 for a VCR that can handle all formats, or $1200 for a DVD |
| 17:10.49 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ok, maybe not you |
| 17:13.15 | Morn | sorphin: how did you like dvd2one? |
| 17:15.05 | sorphin | Morn: well, afterwards, when i played the 30 min result, it was alright, but seemed to have a few glitches, i'm gonna try the full version tonight i had pushed to me |
| 17:18.19 | Morn | it's not perfect |
| 17:18.29 | Morn | but for me acceptable for a 'quick' backup |
| 17:19.16 | Morn | from what I read though, it gets really bad if the source is over 2 hours |
| 17:20.18 | Morn | and the 'glitches' are less noticable on a standard TV than they are on you computer screen |
| 17:31.44 | sorphin | trust me |
| 17:31.54 | sorphin | this glitch woulda been noticeable |
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| 17:39.03 | Morn | what was it? |
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| 17:55.03 | sorphin | Morn: it was a visible outright glitch in video, wasn't compression artifact or anything, and it wasn't in the original |
| 17:55.20 | Morn | ah |
| 17:57.00 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:57.15 | sorphin | a GeForce TI 4800 that costs less than a 4600.. interesting |
| 18:00.45 | Morn | I gave away my GF 3 Ti 200 |
| 18:00.57 | Morn | I liked the card but I got a ATI 8500 DV |
| 18:03.57 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:04.18 | sorphin | well, card has to work well (and accelerated) under linux |
| 18:04.25 | sorphin | since that's my primary OS |
| 18:05.53 | Morn | nvidia has the best support for that |
| 18:05.59 | Morn | though the ATI cards are coming along though |
| 18:06.17 | sorphin | well, i can't wait for the comealong, i still need a new vid card |
| 18:06.33 | sorphin | i found out the 4800 is just a 4600 w/ 8x agp support, but it's cheaper, so that's fine by me |
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| 19:00.29 | andersee | Russ|werk: anybody tried to update the tuxscreen kernel to 2.4.19-rmk5? |
| 19:09.00 | mickeyd | Does anyone know of a utility I can change a running kernel to a different kernel without rebooting? |
| 19:17.08 | andersee | mickeyd: http://lwn.net/Articles/15468/ http://www.xmission.com/~ebiederm/files/kexec/ |
| 19:18.30 | sorphin | there's also another one |
| 19:18.42 | sorphin | the name eludes me atm tho |
| 19:18.46 | sorphin | kexec is for 2.5 |
| 19:20.52 | mickeyd | I can't modify the existing kernel, and I can't change lilo parameters. |
| 19:21.07 | sorphin | ok, i remember now |
| 19:21.11 | sorphin | it's Monte |
| 19:21.16 | andersee | sorphin: you mean Two Kernel Monte, http://www.scyld.com/products/beowulf/software/monte.html |
| 19:21.21 | sorphin | andersee: yeah |
| 19:21.44 | sorphin | mickeyd: you can't just kick to another kernel w/o "means" |
| 19:22.26 | andersee | mickeyd: find a security hold and start poking things into /dev/kmem |
| 19:23.23 | andersee | mickeyd: or load kernel modules to replace various kernel functions then |
| 19:23.23 | mickeyd | I have kernel 1.2 running and boots okay. The old lilo has corrupted the partition table and as long as I don't run lilo I'm okay. |
| 19:23.32 | sorphin | ugh |
| 19:23.32 | sorphin | 1.2 |
| 19:23.36 | sorphin | man that's old |
| 19:23.37 | mickeyd | right |
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| 20:44.49 | sieve | lo all |
| 20:53.22 | sorphin | lo |
| 20:54.33 | kergoth | hmm, anyone remember when the pcmcia ide driver renamed from ide_cs to ide-cs or what hav eyou? |
| 20:54.45 | sorphin | kergoth: actually |
| 20:54.59 | sorphin | one is the kernel one and one is the pcmcia-utils one |
| 20:55.04 | sorphin | forget which is which tho |
| 20:55.21 | sorphin | nor do i know which is best |
| 20:56.21 | kergoth | i mean the in kernel one |
| 20:56.23 | kergoth | it renamed |
| 20:56.29 | kergoth | i dont remember what version it hapened in though |
| 20:56.30 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:59.44 | sorphin | hmm |
| 20:59.51 | sorphin | don't know that one |
| 21:02.22 | sorphin | rotfl |
| 21:02.24 | sorphin | Your Rights Online: Telemarketers Sue to Block Do-Not-Call List |
| 21:02.25 | CosmicPenguin | Argh! |
| 21:02.43 | CosmicPenguin | Why in the hell would a POP3 server return -ERR Syntax Error for a damn USER command? |
| 21:03.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: bad code ? |
| 21:11.01 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: defiantely annoying |
| 21:11.15 | sorphin | i haven't used pop3 in years |
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| 21:24.59 | sorphin | GPSFan: re |
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| 23:51.28 | sorphin | clear |
| 23:51.30 | sorphin | grr |