| 00:00.03 | MonMotha | so I see that porting blob to the webpal ain't going to be easy |
| 00:00.14 | MonMotha | lots of places assume intel cpus |
| 00:00.41 | kergoth | I'm gonna have to port it to another ARM chip as well, the netsilicon NET+50 chip, arm7tdmi core |
| 00:01.54 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yup, the tuxscreen buildroot is all fixed now. Do a 'cvs up; rm sources/dl/uClibc-snapshot.tar.bz2; make' and it will build a working tuxscreen image |
| 00:03.37 | MonMotha | kergoth: well, it doesn't look too bad...part of the reason I'm having trouble is that I'm pretty new to assembly |
| 00:03.42 | MonMotha | not to mentoin I'm not familiar with the BLOB code |
| 00:03.58 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: rock on. |
| 00:05.08 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I'll cut a uClibc release later tonight as well, since everything seems to be working (for a change ;-) |
| 00:05.37 | MonMotha | yeah, the exception vector table in start.S will work for clps7500 also |
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| 00:13.27 | MonMotha | hum, a copy of the ARM ARM wouldbe useful about now |
| 00:17.15 | kergoth | MonMotha: search the LAK archives, someone posted a link to the pdf |
| 00:17.44 | MonMotha | kergoth: naw, I found someone with a copy on CD |
| 00:17.50 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 00:17.54 | kergoth | just order the free cd from intel |
| 00:18.16 | MonMotha | eh, I might |
| 00:18.30 | MonMotha | should have included it in my big lit order (I'm going to get a box with like 50lbs of books in it) |
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| 02:44.39 | MonMotha | what's a good quickie reference on assembler syntax? |
| 02:51.04 | legodude | what's the current best howto for webpal stuff? |
| 02:51.06 | legodude | getting everything loaded |
| 02:51.18 | legodude | bigbrd's site? |
| 02:51.28 | MonMotha | dunno...I'm working on a port of BLOB (hence the request for an assembly ref guide :) |
| 03:11.44 | legodude | hrm |
| 03:11.48 | legodude | I have no idea which stuff to load |
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| 03:18.08 | sorphin | GPSFan: allo ken |
| 03:30.40 | legodude | alright |
| 03:30.51 | legodude | I'm getting "Timeout reading from remote_system" in gdb |
| 03:31.02 | legodude | after there ist he Easy Rider splash screen |
| 03:31.06 | legodude | anyone have any ideas? |
| 03:31.17 | MonMotha | I get that if I try to upload anything very big |
| 03:31.23 | MonMotha | I haven't investigated the cause |
| 03:31.30 | legodude | I get that trying to connect with gdb |
| 03:31.31 | legodude | nothing more |
| 03:35.19 | legodude | time to post a message to the linux-hacker board I guess |
| 03:36.32 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:36.58 | sorphin | if you read, you'll note that it wont' always connect on the 1st try :P |
| 03:37.16 | legodude | I've tried a many times |
| 03:37.18 | sorphin | took me quite a few tries |
| 03:37.19 | sorphin | :P |
| 03:37.23 | legodude | might be my borx0red adapter |
| 03:37.36 | sorphin | what does it say on the puter side |
| 03:37.43 | sorphin | i don't care what it shows on the tv or whatever |
| 03:37.50 | legodude | damnit |
| 03:37.51 | legodude | I hate you |
| 03:38.01 | sorphin | excuse me? |
| 03:38.06 | legodude | it worked |
| 03:38.11 | legodude | just like you said |
| 03:38.11 | sorphin | told you :P |
| 03:39.21 | legodude | should I put bootp on there? |
| 03:39.31 | legodude | instead of the other thing |
| 03:39.40 | legodude | prog.srec |
| 03:40.09 | sorphin | umm |
| 03:40.10 | sorphin | no |
| 03:40.19 | sorphin | that's not how it works :P |
| 03:40.23 | legodude | hehe |
| 03:40.25 | legodude | I'm confusing things |
| 03:40.33 | sorphin | do what the damn thing says to do |
| 03:40.39 | sorphin | or you'll brick it |
| 03:40.39 | sorphin | :P |
| 03:40.44 | sorphin | then you'll be sol like i am atm :P |
| 03:40.46 | MonMotha | looks like I'm going to have to rewrite the BLOB LED routines |
| 03:40.49 | legodude | hehe |
| 03:40.49 | legodude | nice |
| 03:40.56 | legodude | how'd you brickz0r? |
| 03:41.10 | sorphin | legodude: wpflashing stuff, it checksum error'd |
| 03:42.20 | legodude | hrm |
| 03:43.35 | legodude | ugh |
| 03:43.40 | legodude | "corrupt reply from target" |
| 03:43.44 | legodude | that doesn't bode well |
| 03:44.09 | sorphin | maybe it'd like you better if you didn't try and talk 133+ :P |
| 03:44.40 | legodude | shush you |
| 03:45.07 | legodude | my 1337 is ph34red across the land |
| 03:45.28 | legodude | I tend to think I built my serial card bad |
| 03:46.01 | MonMotha | how can you build them wrong? |
| 03:46.19 | MonMotha | http://www.perscorpserv.com/~monmotha/s3500012.jpg |
| 03:46.31 | MonMotha | as long as you get the wires right, they tend to work pretty well |
| 03:46.45 | legodude | I don't know |
| 03:46.45 | MonMotha | if that thing works as well as it does, I can't imagine what you'd have to do to make it unreliable :) |
| 03:47.06 | legodude | mine is not that ugly |
| 03:47.15 | legodude | not close |
| 03:47.25 | legodude | on a nice proto-pcb and everything |
| 03:47.33 | sorphin | mine looks similar to ken's |
| 03:47.41 | legodude | I kinda left out hardware handshaking though |
| 03:47.49 | legodude | I just did rx/tx and gnd/vcc |
| 03:48.00 | sorphin | just the chip, and a few wires |
| 03:49.39 | MonMotha | well I'm sorry, I used a MAX-232, it needs external caps |
| 03:53.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:53.30 | sorphin | anyways |
| 03:53.59 | legodude | still getting infernal timeouts all over |
| 04:10.34 | legodude | hrm |
| 04:10.45 | legodude | anyone have a capture of a successful load prog.srec? |
| 04:10.59 | legodude | I'm not sure if mine is going correctly |
| 04:12.21 | legodude | I think I'm getting a whole lot more errors than I should |
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| 04:17.45 | sorphin | TimRiker: evening tim |
| 04:18.03 | sorphin | legodude: aside from if it can't connect |
| 04:18.07 | sorphin | you should get 0 errors |
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| 04:31.21 | TomW | MonMotha: you had a question on SMD PCBs? |
| 04:47.41 | legodude | sorphin: unfortunatly my electronics stuff and other webpal are at home |
| 04:50.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:53.10 | legodude | howso? |
| 05:02.47 | MonMotha | darnit, he left |
| 05:03.39 | MonMotha | ibot botmail for TomW Yeah, I was wondering how well SMD works with etched PCBs...I haven't really etched anything before so I'm not sure what kind of tolerences I can get out of it. I'd only be using SOICs, nothing smaller. |
| 05:03.45 | MonMotha | ibot thx |
| 05:03.45 | | extra, extra, read all about it, thx is ibot's welcome |
| 05:04.02 | MonMotha | ibot no, thx is <reply> np |
| 05:04.03 | | okay, MonMotha |
| 05:04.06 | MonMotha | ibot thx |
| 05:04.07 | | np |
| 05:05.12 | sorphin | heh |
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| 07:11.44 | sorphin | grr |
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| 10:18.31 | prh | anyone able to help me get my tux up and running? |
| 10:37.36 | prh | I have a tux here. I've upgraded blob to blob-20020709 which seems to run fine. and I have put tuxscreen-image.jffs2 on the machine with xdownload ramdisk ... and then flash ramdisk |
| 10:37.45 | prh | Received 1835008 (0x001c0000) bytes |
| 10:37.45 | prh | blob> flash ramdisk |
| 10:37.45 | prh | Saving ramdisk to flash |
| 10:37.45 | prh | erasing at 0x00021a28... scanning down... resume writing at 0x00020000 |
| 10:37.45 | prh | erasing at 0x00056f18... scanning down... resume writing at 0x0003fff8 |
| 10:37.47 | prh | erasing at 0x00128334... scanning down... resume writing at 0x0011fff8 |
| 10:37.50 | prh | erasing at 0x001cc4a8... scanning down... resume writing at 0x001bfffc |
| 10:37.53 | prh | blob> |
| 10:38.20 | prh | blob starts: Memory map: |
| 10:38.20 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.20 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.20 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.20 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.22 | prh | Loading blob from flash . done |
| 10:38.26 | prh | kernel loads |
| 10:38.33 | prh | Uncompressing Linux......................................... done, booting the kernel. |
| 10:38.36 | prh | Linux version 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 (timr@localhost) (gcc version 2.95.2 20000313 (Debian GNU/Linux)) #1 Wed Ma2 |
| 10:38.39 | prh | Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 9 |
| 10:38.41 | prh | Architecture: Shannon (AKA: Tuxscreen) |
| 10:38.49 | prh | Kernel command line: console=ttySA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mtdblock1 init=/linuxrc |
| 10:38.52 | prh | Warning: uninitialized Real Time Clock |
| 10:38.55 | prh | Console: colour dummy device 80x30 |
| 10:38.57 | prh | Calibrating delay loop... 127.38 BogoMIPS |
| 10:39.00 | prh | Memory: 4MB 4MB 4MB 4MB = 16MB total |
| 10:39.02 | prh | Memory: 14704KB available (1045K code, 258K data, 60K init) |
| 10:39.31 | prh | JFFS2 version 2.1. (C) 2001 Red Hat, Inc., designed by Axis Communications AB. |
| 10:39.31 | prh | ttySA0 at MEM 0x80050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 |
| 10:39.31 | prh | ttySA1 at MEM 0x80010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 |
| 10:39.31 | prh | Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30 |
| 10:39.31 | prh | pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured |
| 10:39.33 | prh | IR Keyboard driver installed |
| 10:39.35 | prh | Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 |
| 10:39.38 | prh | pgd = c0004000 |
| 10:39.40 | prh | *pgd = 00000000, *pmd = 00000000 |
| 10:39.43 | prh | Internal error: Oops: 0 |
| 10:39.46 | prh | CPU: 0 |
| 10:39.48 | prh | what have I done wrong? (I want to set up an NFS root) |
| 13:41.57 | prh | anyone around? |
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| 13:46.38 | prh | sjhill: know much about the tuxscreen? |
| 13:47.30 | sjhill | prh: nothing at all |
| 13:47.42 | prh | ahh |
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| 15:12.50 | sieve | morning #eLinux |
| 15:13.48 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
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| 15:21.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how goes it |
| 15:22.16 | prpplague | morning guys |
| 15:28.54 | prh | any tuxscreen'ers here that could help me? |
| 15:29.19 | CosmicPenguin | Sure, why not. |
| 15:29.20 | CosmicPenguin | FIre away |
| 15:30.31 | prh | ok got a tux - trying to get tit working with a network card and doing nfs mount and pivot root. |
| 15:30.49 | prh | but it's crash soon after loading the kernel. |
| 15:31.04 | CosmicPenguin | how recent is your buildroot? |
| 15:31.38 | prh | blob-20020709 and tuxscreen-image.jffs2 downloaded today from the 0.6 directroy |
| 15:31.46 | prh | also tried 20020501.jffs2 |
| 15:32.03 | CosmicPenguin | What kind of crash are you looking at? |
| 15:32.26 | prh | IR Keyboard driver installed |
| 15:32.26 | prh | Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 |
| 15:32.26 | prh | pgd = c0004000 |
| 15:32.26 | prh | *pgd = 00000000, *pmd = 00000000 |
| 15:32.26 | prh | Internal error: Oops: 0 |
| 15:32.29 | prh | CPU: 0 |
| 15:32.31 | prh | pc : [<c0096600>] lr : [<c00961c0>] Not tainted |
| 15:32.34 | prh | sp : d8015a90 ip : d8015a74 fp : d8015eb4 |
| 15:32.37 | prh | r10: c012d468 r9 : c013b900 r8 : 40000013 |
| 15:32.39 | prh | r7 : d8015a90 r6 : c014b030 r5 : 00000004 r4 : d0011400 |
| 15:32.41 | prh | r3 : 00000000 r2 : c014b028 r1 : 00000000 r0 : c014b02c |
| 15:32.44 | prh | kernel panic |
| 15:33.12 | CosmicPenguin | Thats MonMotha's bug, isn't it? |
| 15:33.29 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: hey, man, wake up! |
| 15:34.56 | prh | are there any newer jffs2 images around? |
| 15:35.23 | CosmicPenguin | prh: your best bet is to grab the current CVS buildroot and roll your own |
| 15:36.25 | prh | do I need an arm box to do that on? |
| 15:37.06 | CosmicPenguin | Nope - all you need to do is grab the buildroot, and type make. |
| 15:37.26 | CosmicPenguin | It will build all of the tools that you need |
| 15:37.36 | prh | (and should I be flashing a separate kernel? this one is "Linux version 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 (timr@localhost) (gcc version 2.95.2 20000313 (Debian GNU/Linux)) #1 Wed May 1 02:51:28 |
| 15:37.48 | prh | MDT 2002" and I dont know if its from the jffs2 or already in flash somewhere |
| 15:38.19 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm.... what version of blob do you have? |
| 15:38.35 | prh | blob-20020709 |
| 15:39.03 | CosmicPenguin | darn - I don't know enough about the different version numbers |
| 15:39.18 | CosmicPenguin | but blob changed a while back, and you no longer need a seperate kernel image |
| 15:39.24 | prh | it's the one in www.ttuxscreen.net/download/0.6 |
| 15:39.39 | CosmicPenguin | Those haven't been updated in quite a while, I'm afraid |
| 15:39.42 | prh | what kernel are you running? |
| 15:41.58 | CosmicPenguin | I just rebuilt last night, so I am running 2.4.18-rmk6-tux1 |
| 15:42.29 | prh | ahh |
| 15:42.49 | prh | got a useful ramdisk image I could nab :O) |
| 15:45.03 | prh | if I had a separate kernel in the flash from before... that could cause problems with a newer ramdisk image? how would I see if I have flash ekrnel (as opposed to jffs2 filesystem kernel) and delete it? |
| 15:45.34 | CosmicPenguin | Well, you need the correct blob first |
| 15:45.54 | prh | this is the lates I could find - it has xdownload |
| 15:46.05 | CosmicPenguin | When you boot it up, does it say: |
| 15:46.11 | CosmicPenguin | loading kernel from jffs2 ......loaded 0x0008e8f4 (583924) bytes |
| 15:46.14 | CosmicPenguin | Or something similar? |
| 15:46.43 | prh | Memory map: |
| 15:46.43 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.43 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.43 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.43 | prh | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.46 | prh | Loading blob from flash . done |
| 15:46.48 | prh | loading kernel from jffs2 ......loaded 0x0008a490 (566416) bytes |
| 15:46.51 | prh | Autoboot (1 seconds) in progress, press any key to stop . |
| 15:46.53 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, you are good to go then |
| 15:46.53 | prh | Starting kernel ... |
| 15:46.56 | prh | Uncompressing Linux......................................... done, booting the kernel. |
| 15:46.59 | prh | Linux version 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 (timr@localhost) (gcc version 2.95.2 20000313 (Debian GNU/Linux)) #1 Wed May 1 02:51:28 |
| 15:47.02 | prh | MDT 2002 |
| 15:47.04 | prh | Yea |
| 15:47.05 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, ok... |
| 15:47.08 | prh | hmm so why does this kernel crash :O( |
| 15:47.27 | CosmicPenguin | Its because of a bug that our friend MonMotha found in the wheaties module |
| 15:47.42 | CosmicPenguin | I could give you my current image, but it could crash too... |
| 15:47.48 | CosmicPenguin | have you been messing with your hardware at all? |
| 15:47.48 | prh | ah - wheaties? |
| 15:48.00 | prh | 5v hack on one slot |
| 15:48.04 | prh | (top slot) |
| 15:48.07 | CosmicPenguin | wheaties is the DSP that runs the phone |
| 15:48.12 | prh | ahh |
| 15:48.26 | prh | I want to do the shanip sound hack |
| 15:52.29 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: oh no, mr pixil ;) </mr bill's voice> |
| 15:52.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what up? |
| 15:53.28 | sorphin | still sick.. fun fun.. actually talked to my manager today, turns out, the main group lead is out too.. heh |
| 15:55.31 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, lots of people I know are sick these days |
| 15:55.38 | sorphin | for me it just ends up being a fun sinus infscktion |
| 15:55.46 | sorphin | i don't get sick otherwise |
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| 15:56.23 | sorphin | ibot: cluebat lethal |
| 15:56.24 | | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps lethal. |
| 15:56.55 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: someone broke the windows? |
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| 16:00.37 | prpplague | pattieja: lo |
| 16:01.00 | sorphin | prpplague: morning to you too dave :P |
| 16:01.00 | pattieja | morning |
| 16:01.09 | sorphin | ) |
| 16:01.12 | sorphin | ;) even |
| 16:01.29 | sorphin | pattieja: morning fellow lunatic ;) |
| 16:01.43 | prh | anyone got any recommendations of what blob and ramdisk I should be using on my tux? |
| 16:01.44 | pattieja | sorphin: you mean linuxtic |
| 16:02.07 | pattieja | sorphin: giving a presentation this evening |
| 16:02.18 | sorphin | pattieja: lug ? |
| 16:02.35 | prpplague | prh: try using one of the pre-built images first |
| 16:02.39 | pattieja | going to use an iPAQ with an 802.11b wireless interface to host the presentation off apache and pass it around the room while we give our speech |
| 16:02.43 | prpplague | prh: make sure you can get things working |
| 16:02.45 | pattieja | sorphin: ccsl dinner |
| 16:02.51 | prpplague | prh: then try the buildroot |
| 16:03.08 | sorphin | pattieja: havent' heard of that one yet |
| 16:03.29 | pattieja | sorphin: Computer Consultants of St. Louis |
| 16:03.35 | sorphin | ah |
| 16:03.41 | prh | prpplague: : I cant get it working with the 0.6 images - thats why I'm asking for recommendations on whats newer / works ;O) |
| 16:04.01 | pattieja | sorphin: topic - Serving Your Clients Without Windows |
| 16:04.02 | pattieja | :) |
| 16:04.14 | sorphin | pattieja: ah |
| 16:04.38 | sorphin | changed the slot the network card was in |
| 16:04.55 | sorphin | win2k was seeing a phantom and so made a #2 |
| 16:05.02 | sorphin | couldn't nuke the original |
| 16:05.08 | pattieja | :| |
| 16:05.26 | prh | CosmicPenguin: any change I could try your ramdisk image? |
| 16:05.34 | sorphin | finally after much cursing and a few rituals (yes, dave, i remembered the chicken blood). it worked |
| 16:06.12 | pattieja | praying helps |
| 16:06.27 | pattieja | especially when you pray to the right person :) |
| 16:07.13 | sorphin | pattieja: i am not praying to Bill :P |
| 16:07.20 | pattieja | heh |
| 16:09.05 | sorphin | pattieja: what else is new ? |
| 16:09.15 | pattieja | hmm |
| 16:09.29 | pattieja | going to be handing out modified KNOPPIX disks at the meeting |
| 16:09.50 | pattieja | we removed some things in the original image in order to make room for Open Source Windows software to be put on the disk |
| 16:10.09 | pattieja | KNOPPIX is a really neat concept and it works very well |
| 16:10.19 | prh | yea |
| 16:10.31 | sorphin | pattieja: tim refered me to it, but it was taking too long to download when i needed a recovery cd |
| 16:10.45 | pattieja | we've done a lot of work toward doing the same thing with RedHat that KNOPPIX did with Debian (using KNOPPIX, of course) |
| 16:11.04 | pattieja | sorphin: yeah, it's an entire 700MB ISO |
| 16:11.22 | sorphin | well, this was gonna take hours :P |
| 16:11.25 | sorphin | on my dsl |
| 16:11.29 | sorphin | and i didn't have time for that |
| 16:11.56 | sorphin | as for the mention of that evil red hat ;p |
| 16:13.06 | pattieja | well, we just wanted to have a working, usable "copy" of RedHat 8.0 on CD to demonstrate to people and give out so they can actually try out Linux without having to install it and all the hassle that goes along with that |
| 16:13.37 | pattieja | unfortunately, we started out our development using Virtual Linux, which did not do as good a job that KNOPPIX does for hardware detection, etc. |
| 16:13.40 | sorphin | pattieja: RH 8 actually works? that's a new one *grin* |
| 16:13.59 | pattieja | VL uses the underlying tools that come with Mandrake to do the hardware detection, etc. |
| 16:14.44 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:14.56 | sorphin | hardware detection is what got win2k in trouble last night :P |
| 16:15.13 | pattieja | KNOPPIX does an excellent job of hardware detection |
| 16:15.21 | pattieja | most machines just boot up |
| 16:15.28 | pattieja | with very little tweaking |
| 16:15.35 | sorphin | cool |
| 16:15.40 | pattieja | actually with no tweaking at all |
| 16:15.57 | pattieja | very few have I had to tweak out of about 5 or 6 machines I've run it on |
| 16:18.12 | prpplague | pattieja: i applied that patch, but still experience the problem with mis-identified reiserfs partitions |
| 16:30.16 | CosmicPenguin | prh: I guess I could hand out my ramdisk - but I bet it won't work for you |
| 16:31.20 | pattieja | unfortunately, my brother says he never has experienced this problem, so... |
| 16:31.41 | pattieja | is your hardware raid array properly being detected? |
| 16:33.24 | prh | CosmicPenguin: aww ok |
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| 16:37.52 | CosmicPenguin | prh: I don't have any mods - I think its the monds that break it |
| 16:38.32 | prh | hmm any ideas on how to get working? |
| 16:42.01 | CosmicPenguin | prh: you will need that kernel patch I mentioned |
| 16:43.07 | prh | CosmicPenguin: that means building a kernel and the ramdisk and I'm not very configent doing that right now - just want an image that'll boot |
| 16:45.16 | CosmicPenguin | prh: unfortunately, now that the buildroot works so well, most everyone is content building their own |
| 16:45.24 | CosmicPenguin | perhaps we can convince somebody to build a new versoin |
| 16:45.38 | prh | CosmicPenguin: Ah. hmm |
| 16:46.04 | prh | CosmicPenguin: it needs getting lots of bits together like cross compiers and kernel sources and stuff |
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| 16:51.43 | prpplague | Russ: lo |
| 16:52.06 | kergoth | hey dave, russ, jordan, dan, etc |
| 16:52.10 | kergoth | god i was late today |
| 16:53.37 | kergoth | brb, caffeine run |
| 16:58.48 | CosmicPenguin | ello |
| 17:03.51 | Russ | hello |
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| 17:04.04 | ynk | hello |
| 17:04.34 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: did you ever get a copy of grub with cramfs support put somewhere? |
| 17:04.51 | ynk | i debootstrap'ed a debian base system....will it be useful to apt-get install dietlibc in order to save some space? and how would i need to re-do the sys then? |
| 17:16.05 | CosmicPenguin | ynk: round these parts we use uclibc instead... :) |
| 17:16.08 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: uclibc |
| 17:16.09 | | well, uclibc is at uclibc.org or #uclibc |
| 17:19.20 | ynk | CosmicPenguin: will i need to recompile stuff? guess so... |
| 17:20.37 | CosmicPenguin | ynk: thats the best way |
| 17:21.12 | ynk | hm... i think i just leave it, i gave myself 500mb for the system, so it'll be ok as well with the 'big' parts ;) |
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| 17:36.30 | ynk | is there any commonly used embedded Linux howto? |
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| 17:55.56 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: not yet, sorry |
| 17:56.43 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: Can you just email me the mini_deflate.[ch] files. Thats the only thing I'm missing really |
| 17:57.00 | CosmicPenguin | Either that, or a fsys_cramfs.c file that matches the mini_deflate.c file from Blob |
| 17:57.11 | Russ | they are in blob cvs |
| 17:57.45 | Russ | they don't match...oh, yea, just show me the prototype and the call from fsys_cramfs.c |
| 17:58.41 | CosmicPenguin | size = decompress_block(cramfs_buf->temp, 4096, cramfs_buf->data + 2); |
| 17:59.10 | CosmicPenguin | (thats from fsys_cramfs.c) |
| 17:59.13 | CosmicPenguin | long decompress_block(unsigned char *dest, unsigned char *source); |
| 17:59.27 | CosmicPenguin | (thats from mini_inflate.h from BLOB cvs) |
| 18:00.39 | Russ | lemme plug that box in |
| 18:02.23 | CosmicPenguin | It looks like the fsys_cramfs.c adds a len value for safety. That doesn't seem to be a bad idea to me |
| 18:33.20 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: thanks |
| 19:04.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you here? |
| 19:05.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: debatable |
| 19:05.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what up? |
| 19:06.20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: what sound chip lives in that thin client you sent me? |
| 19:06.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i thought the sounds was part of that geode chipset |
| 19:06.51 | prpplague | one sec and i can look |
| 19:07.11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: there should still be a AC97 chip somewhere |
| 19:07.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ad1819 |
| 19:08.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ok |
| 19:08.39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: insert standard NSC rant here |
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| 19:40.43 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: tuxscreen is lookin' good |
| 19:41.36 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: excellent |
| 19:42.06 | ynk | tuxscreen? what is that? |
| 19:42.34 | andersee | ibot: tuxscreen? |
| 19:42.35 | | methinks tuxscreen is http://TuxScreen.net/ they were $99 but now sold out or http://tuxscreen.net/scrapbook/images.html or #TuxScreen |
| 19:51.38 | ynk | thanks for link |
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| 20:18.27 | sorphin | GPSFan: re ken |
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| 20:46.55 | file[laptop] | hi Tim |
| 21:00.45 | andersee | TimRiker: how was the trip? |
| 21:04.17 | TimRiker | fine. hanging by the phone expecting an offer. |
| 21:06.27 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: Dallas puts you too close to prpplague though... :) |
| 21:06.52 | CosmicPenguin | that much talent in one place is not healthy |
| 21:07.53 | andersee | TimRiker: I expect Keri wouldn't like Tim going to the nudie bars with prpplague... |
| 21:08.20 | TimRiker | heh. she probably would not go with me either. (kidding) |
| 21:17.59 | sorphin | heh |
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| 21:31.22 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey dude |
| 21:31.26 | prpplague | TimRiker: still in big d |
| 21:31.29 | prpplague | TimRiker: ? |
| 21:31.32 | MonMotha | anyone familiar with the BLOB source? if I were to fork ledasm.S (for Intel and CLPS7500) where would I need to make changes? |
| 21:31.49 | prpplague | MonMotha: have a look at the docs |
| 21:31.59 | prpplague | MonMotha: at the bottom is a section for porting |
| 21:32.06 | MonMotha | prpplague: that'll work :) |
| 21:32.18 | MonMotha | prpplague: you know a good ASM syntax reference? |
| 21:33.51 | kergoth | MonMotha: ARM ARM has everything you need on the arm asm, and the GAS manual has the gnu assembler syntax bits. should about cover everything. |
| 21:34.43 | prpplague | MonMotha: right, you can order a free copy on cd at arm.com |
| 21:35.25 | MonMotha | prpplague: k, manual for gas |
| 21:35.26 | prpplague | TimRiker: job offer? |
| 21:35.32 | prpplague | TimRiker: in big d? cool |
| 21:35.42 | prpplague | TimRiker: can you give me a ref too? lol |
| 21:35.50 | MonMotha | you know, only an idiot would then proceed to go to google and type in "man gas" |
| 21:36.00 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:36.06 | prpplague | MonMotha: good one |
| 21:36.16 | MonMotha | hum... |
| 21:36.31 | TimRiker | prpplague: TI in dallas. interview there this past weekend. |
| 21:36.39 | prpplague | TimRiker: cool |
| 21:36.50 | prpplague | TimRiker: omap dev? |
| 21:36.52 | kergoth | MonMotha: gnu.org, documentation, online manuals |
| 21:37.11 | MonMotha | kergoth: yes, though google *usually* returns what you want :) |
| 21:37.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:37.30 | TimRiker | prpplague: I could tell ya, but then I'd have to shoot ya. I expect you could make a pretty good guess though. |
| 21:38.30 | prpplague | TimRiker: head janitor? |
| 21:38.35 | TimRiker | heh |
| 21:39.09 | TimRiker | MonMotha: tried #blob on irc.oftc.net ? |
| 21:39.16 | Agarwal | hey guys, any of view ever tried to extend the cable going from the comm board to the LCD on the tuxscreen? |
| 21:39.25 | Agarwal | heheh... any of view |
| 21:39.34 | MonMotha | TimRiker: notice where I just showed up :) |
| 21:39.35 | Agarwal | view = you, sorry |
| 21:40.14 | TimRiker | Agarwal: somone did, but I don't recall ever seeing details. |
| 21:41.16 | Agarwal | that's what I thought :( I edited the QuestionsAndAnswers wiki page about it (as there's mention of it), and sent a mail to the mailing list, but still haven't got any answers... |
| 21:42.10 | prpplague | TimRiker: well if you get the job, i'll drive up and buy dinner one evening |
| 21:44.30 | prpplague | Agarwal: the lcd timing is pretty sensitive not shielded |
| 21:45.07 | prpplague | Agarwal: you can get an extra heavy shielded parallel printer cable and extend it as much as 5 feet without significate problems |
| 21:45.27 | prpplague | Agarwal: using regular idc cable not more that 12-18 inches |
| 21:46.45 | Agarwal | wow 5 feet :) |
| 21:46.49 | Agarwal | that would be great... |
| 21:47.07 | Agarwal | I tried with with I had on hand, an IDE cable... I extended like 6", and just didn't work. |
| 21:47.25 | prpplague | Agarwal: not enough shielding |
| 21:47.42 | prpplague | gotta run guys, later |
| 21:47.55 | Agarwal | thanks, later! |
| 21:48.00 | Agarwal | doh, too late |
| 21:55.07 | TimRiker | he'll be back. ;-) |
| 21:56.39 | sorphin | "they always come back" ;) |
| 21:56.57 | CosmicPenguin | Don't forget - you're here forever |
| 21:58.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you can check out, but you can't ever leave |
| 22:01.30 | TimRiker | Agarwal: or you can have ibot botmail him. ;-) |
| 22:02.33 | sorphin | TimRiker: speaking of ibot, need a simple page to search the logs ;) otherwise you have to pull up every one and search that page :P :) |
| 22:03.14 | Agarwal | TimRiker: how would I go about that? |
| 22:03.31 | sorphin | Agarwal: ibot botmail foo <text here> |
| 22:03.36 | Agarwal | cool! |
| 22:04.18 | sorphin | erm |
| 22:04.20 | Agarwal | can that be done in a query? |
| 22:04.21 | sorphin | correction |
| 22:04.27 | sorphin | Agarwal: ibot botmail for foo <text here> |
| 22:04.41 | sorphin | prolly |
| 22:04.54 | Agarwal | heheh oki |
| 22:07.05 | TimRiker | yep, /msg or in a channel both work. |
| 22:07.30 | TimRiker | I've been meaning to talk google into indexing the logs and then use a search page for that. have not gotten around to it though. |
| 22:08.39 | TimRiker | google won't link past a "directory" list like http://ibot.rikers.org/ |
| 22:26.02 | nelson | Urgh. Anybody else know the magic recipe for treating the tux like an X terminal, and starting X at boot time? |
| 22:26.27 | nelson | I tried creating a /etc/init.d/S95xserver and running startx&, but that didn't work. |
| 22:52.34 | prh | hmm anyone got any good ramdisk images? |
| 22:53.50 | CosmicPenguin | nelson: what happened? |
| 22:53.57 | prh | (for tux - the ones in 0.6 aren't good for me - crashes on one tux and runs on the other - ish - lots of unandled page faults during modprobes and stuff so I can't actually do much :O( |
| 22:54.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: how goes the webpal? |
| 22:56.58 | MonMotha | TimRiker: you sure it's not because they're gzipped/ |
| 23:00.57 | nelson | CosmicPenguin: curiously, nothing. I got a login prompt. |
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| 23:02.45 | nelson | CosmicPenguin: of course, I also got a kernel oops before that. |
| 23:03.55 | CosmicPenguin | nelson: interesting. Suppose it was associated with the framebuffer? |
| 23:06.05 | MonMotha | nelson: what was the oops? |
| 23:06.55 | nelson | MonMotha: I'm not sure. I don't see the "oops" part. I just see a register dump |
| 23:07.38 | MonMotha | nelson: because if it's intermittant you might be seeing the problem I fixed :) |
| 23:07.52 | MonMotha | it was pretty bad on mine |
| 23:08.00 | MonMotha | didn't seem to show up on other people's tho |
| 23:08.06 | MonMotha | being a race condition, that's quite possible |
| 23:08.30 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: do me a favor - we already have two people who saw your bug today. Would you e-mail it to Erik and beg him to stick it into the buildroot? |
| 23:09.06 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: sure, let me make a diff up |
| 23:10.04 | nelson | MonMotha: it's in inetd, not x. |
| 23:10.25 | nelson | I put bracketing echoes around the code that runs init.d scripts. |
| 23:10.39 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: cool.. its much easier to tell people to RTFBR |
| 23:10.40 | nelson | dinner ... gotta run. I'll read the scrollback. |
| 23:10.50 | MonMotha | oh, X |
| 23:10.54 | MonMotha | I thought you were talking about a kernel panic |
| 23:11.48 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: erik's email? |
| 23:12.04 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: andersee |
| 23:12.04 | | from memory, andersee is Erik Andersen (mailto:andersen@codepoet.org), or on crack |
| 23:12.15 | MonMotha | heh |
| 23:12.21 | CosmicPenguin | thanks to sorphin, everyone is on track |
| 23:12.29 | CosmicPenguin | lets hope the DEA doesn't pop in.. :P |
| 23:12.35 | CosmicPenguin | s/track/crack/ |
| 23:28.25 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: sent to erik |
| 23:49.06 | sjhill | my morse code is bad |
| 23:49.12 | sjhill | i can't even read that |
| 23:49.37 | sjhill | anybody have an idea where i can score an IDE to SCSI adapter? |
| 23:51.58 | Lethal | sjhill, probably some kind of store, or some such thing. |
| 23:52.16 | Tangent | Maybe some shifty looking guy outside the store... ;) |
| 23:52.31 | Lethal | Tangent, depends what kind of a deal your looking for I guess ;P |
| 23:52.55 | Tangent | go on... the first IDE to SCSI adapter's free |
| 23:53.09 | Tangent | try one.. all your friends have |
| 23:53.46 | Lethal | I had a 3ware board that did that. but other then that, that sounds disturbing. |
| 23:55.12 | Tangent | A |
| 23:55.30 | Tangent | I've seen SCSI interfacing IDE raid kits before |
| 23:55.47 | file[laptop] | sjhill: I can check around if you so desire |
| 23:57.39 | Lethal | Tangent, they're usually not too bad. expect for when they try and pull off hotplug. |
| 23:58.20 | Lethal | especially if its a combination of pci _and_ ide hotplug. its like one giant clusterfuck. |
| 23:59.04 | sjhill | file[laptop]: pls do |
| 23:59.47 | file[laptop] | sjhill: k |
| 23:59.48 | Tangent | Ah.. clusterfuck.. there's a term I haven't heard in a couple of years :) |
