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| 00:00.13 | Lethal | Tangent, try pci/ide hotplug, its more of a 5-minute reoccurence. |
| 00:11.11 | sieve | Tangent: or he could try working where I work.... |
| 00:11.24 | sieve | night all |
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| 00:47.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: webpal goes nowhere |
| 01:07.40 | TimRiker | MonMotha: pretty sure that google looks for standard directory style pages and refuses to follow links off them. |
| 01:08.01 | TimRiker | I think If I got a calendar page up that linked into each subpage, then google would walk them. |
| 01:09.12 | MonMotha | ah |
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| 01:21.14 | MonMotha | it's Popular in: Taiwan, Republic of China (#19) |
| 01:21.16 | MonMotha | oh boyu |
| 01:30.03 | TimRiker | http://www.altera.com/literature/lit-exc.html <- pdf ARM ARM |
| 01:31.55 | MonMotha | yes, I have the PDF |
| 01:32.42 | MonMotha | I just find dead tree versions easier to work with as I can have them open for reference on my lap while still leaving my comp desktop free for use (I don't have a dual head system, I really should set one up) |
| 01:33.20 | MonMotha | too bad I'm out of PCI slots (and desk space) |
| 01:33.45 | jacques | hello |
| 01:36.23 | MonMotha | hello jacques |
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| 01:47.15 | weziko | This isn't as much a embedded linux question, as much as its a boolean algebra question :) Would anyone concider A+B with a bar above the A+B to be the same (A+B)' or would you concider it A'+B' ? |
| 01:49.08 | ds-work | (A+B)' |
| 01:49.27 | weziko | Thats what I thought too |
| 01:49.53 | weziko | I think there's a typo in my textbook, heh |
| 01:50.43 | weziko | Thanks :) |
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| 02:19.27 | jacques | wowee! |
| 02:19.42 | jacques | my dsl went down and actually came back up!!! |
| 02:20.02 | file[laptop] | wow |
| 02:20.22 | jacques | uaually it hangs |
| 02:20.39 | jacques | requires power cycling the modem |
| 02:20.40 | file[laptop] | my provider bought a cheap supply of ADSL Modems |
| 02:21.07 | file[laptop] | what mine does is refuse to reconnect (after like 2 days, it disconnects me) until I reset it |
| 02:21.24 | jacques | that sounds a lot like what mine does |
| 02:21.34 | file[laptop] | what's your modem brand? |
| 02:21.42 | jacques | th osometimes I can stay connected for 2 weeks, sometimes for 2 hours |
| 02:22.01 | jacques | westel wirespeed 516 - something like that |
| 02:22.08 | file[laptop] | ic |
| 02:22.12 | file[laptop] | mine's a Comtrend CT-300 |
| 02:22.19 | file[laptop] | neat thing is I can telnet in :) |
| 02:22.28 | jacques | that is neat |
| 02:22.28 | file[laptop] | but I've only got a read-only account... not the root password |
| 02:22.35 | jacques | d;oh |
| 02:22.48 | file[laptop] | but it still gives status information, line information, etc |
| 02:23.10 | jacques | yeah I could do tht aon my old modem - my isdn modem |
| 02:23.53 | file[laptop] | wow |
| 02:23.55 | file[laptop] | my upload speed is up |
| 02:24.13 | file[laptop] | 640kbps |
| 02:25.33 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:25.56 | sorphin | i never drop |
| 02:26.22 | file[laptop] | Line Attenuation(dB) : 56.0 |
| 02:26.22 | file[laptop] | Noise Margin(dB) : 9 |
| 02:26.23 | file[laptop] | Transmitted Blocks(since reset) : 96319791 |
| 02:26.28 | file[laptop] | there's a demo of what it says... |
| 02:26.52 | file[laptop] | usually at 7 for noise margin, mmm |
| 02:28.28 | jacques | what are the units? :-) |
| 02:28.36 | jacques | oh duh |
| 02:28.39 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 02:28.40 | jacques | dB |
| 02:29.48 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:29.58 | sorphin | jacques: wanna see a good signal? ;) |
| 02:30.18 | jacques | sure |
| 02:30.47 | sorphin | mini flood: |
| 02:30.49 | sorphin | --- Channel Info ATU-R ATU-C |
| 02:30.49 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.49 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.49 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.49 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.50 | sorphin | --- Physical Layer Info ATU-R ATU-C |
| 02:30.52 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.54 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.56 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.58 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.00 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.56 | file[laptop] | I want a Cisco... |
| 02:32.05 | jacques | holy cow - look at that attainable rate |
| 02:33.14 | sorphin | they'd have to actually allow that in the dslam |
| 02:33.14 | file[laptop] | freaky |
| 02:33.29 | sorphin | that just means how fast i could get if it were possible because of my signal quality |
| 02:33.38 | sorphin | but then, i am 2 blocks from the dslam |
| 02:34.05 | file[laptop] | which bites |
| 02:35.01 | jacques | I'm > 17000 feet away |
| 02:35.25 | file[laptop] | all I know is it's fast, and I like it. |
| 02:35.30 | file[laptop] | except for the ADSL Modem |
| 02:35.33 | sorphin | i'm actually 14k+ from the CO |
| 02:35.39 | sorphin | i'm on Project Pronto |
| 02:35.55 | jacques | bah |
| 02:36.03 | jacques | i have been waiting for that for years |
| 02:36.07 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:36.09 | sorphin | so was i |
| 02:36.20 | file[laptop] | what's your opinion on PPPoE? |
| 02:36.55 | jacques | there used to be a web site that had project pronto progress |
| 02:37.03 | prpplague | argh, pppoe stands for poop poop poop on extrapoop |
| 02:37.33 | file[laptop] | prpplague: the only good thing I've found so far is I can allocate myself extra internet IPs |
| 02:37.46 | sorphin | i don't use pppoe/ppoa/pppanything |
| 02:37.47 | sorphin | :) |
| 02:37.58 | prpplague | file[laptop]: sbc causes all kinds of nightmares for us with pppoe |
| 02:37.59 | jacques | I am on pppeo |
| 02:38.02 | jacques | pppoe |
| 02:38.19 | file[laptop] | prpplague: yikes |
| 02:38.21 | sorphin | jacques: i also pay more than you prolly |
| 02:38.28 | file[laptop] | prpplague: care to give me an example? |
| 02:39.10 | jacques | i hate sbc |
| 02:39.15 | sorphin | i don't |
| 02:39.38 | prpplague | file[laptop]: we often use net connection vpn's as backup's for frame relay, sbc's static ip's via pppoe are a nightmare to set up and often are assign dynamically even thought they are suppose to be static |
| 02:39.51 | sorphin | prpplague: umm.. |
| 02:40.03 | sorphin | prpplague: they make you use pppoe for statics? |
| 02:40.12 | file[laptop] | prpplague: oh dear god |
| 02:40.13 | prpplague | sorphin: yep, for single ips |
| 02:40.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:40.24 | sorphin | 1 ip isn't enough for me |
| 02:40.29 | jacques | up until about 3 months ago my dsl went down for about 4 days a month |
| 02:40.32 | nelson | MonMotha: I don't think it's X, because X hasn't started. I'm seeing a register dump just like a kernel oops. |
| 02:40.47 | nelson | MonMotha: except I never see the part where the kernel prints "oops". |
| 02:40.59 | prpplague | sorphin: and for blocks of ip's they have a choice of pppoe or getting a router with pppoe client bridge mode |
| 02:41.11 | prpplague | sorphin: we aren't talking about your head |
| 02:41.19 | sorphin | prpplague: nor am i :P |
| 02:41.21 | sorphin | dork |
| 02:41.33 | prpplague | sorphin: small block......or your ip range |
| 02:41.46 | sorphin | they steal one for the headend |
| 02:41.53 | sorphin | i can get up to 128 |
| 02:42.00 | sorphin | no pppanything |
| 02:42.05 | sorphin | no special routing |
| 02:42.18 | sorphin | they just route the whole damn block down my pvc (hence the IP needed at the headend) |
| 02:42.21 | sorphin | and i'm good to go |
| 02:48.00 | jacques | i pay $50/month for 128/384 pppoe dynamic |
| 02:48.18 | file[laptop] | $42.95 CAD/mth here for 512/1400 |
| 02:49.16 | sorphin | ouch |
| 02:52.31 | jacques | sorphin: did you have to ask to be on pronto or did they just put you on it? |
| 02:52.44 | sorphin | ok, here's the story :P |
| 02:54.21 | sorphin | i fought for 3 years to get DSL, covad was gonna give it to me, bell drops the loop, after slapping covad around, they finally check w/ bell and find out the loop was too long, so i call bell, cuz i SAW them putting in the pronto equipment and dropping the fiber (i saw the schedules from bell).., called them, told them i saw them doing it, asked when it was gonna be ready, they said they could finally take orders, and i got it in a |
| 02:54.30 | sorphin | if pronto is in your area |
| 02:54.38 | sorphin | and you don't qualify the normal way |
| 02:54.43 | sorphin | you don't have to "ask" for pronto |
| 02:54.53 | sorphin | they know pronto is avail to you and will go for that |
| 02:55.35 | jacques | but if I already have service and then they put pronto in I dounbt they would move me even tho my current service is sub-par |
| 02:55.53 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:55.55 | sorphin | buzz |
| 02:55.55 | sorphin | wrong |
| 02:56.10 | jacques | how do you know? |
| 02:56.13 | sorphin | you CAN ask to be put on pronto if they have it available :P |
| 02:56.24 | sorphin | i know this because people do it :P |
| 02:56.26 | jacques | ok I will check |
| 02:56.39 | sorphin | jacques: you really should read the stuff on dslreports forums sometime :P~ |
| 02:56.45 | jacques | I mean I doubt they would automatically move me to pronto in the above case |
| 02:56.55 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:57.01 | sorphin | they won't "automatically" do anything |
| 02:57.06 | jacques | yeah I used to read the sbc dslreport forum all the time |
| 02:57.14 | sorphin | you have to request it if you already have svc |
| 02:57.15 | jacques | esp when Iwas having the really bad problems |
| 02:57.22 | sorphin | now, if you were a new cust |
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| 03:04.02 | Agarwal | hey guys... dunno if you guys ever knew about that or will remember it, but there was a full pim suite that was released as source code, written with flnx, some time ago... the site was viper.tuxia.org . They stopped development, but one of the developers published the code, and I had it, but now I can't find it anywhere... maybe one of you saved it somewhere? |
| 03:04.08 | nelson | MonMotha: do you have a boot image with your fix in it? |
| 03:07.09 | jacques | what's a RT in DSL context? |
| 03:08.29 | sorphin | remote dslam |
| 03:08.34 | sorphin | aka remote terminal |
| 03:08.40 | sorphin | you connect to it via copper |
| 03:08.50 | jacques | is that related to pronto at all? |
| 03:08.50 | sorphin | and then ride an OC3 back to the CO |
| 03:08.56 | sorphin | uhhh |
| 03:09.02 | sorphin | jacques: that IS pronto ;p |
| 03:09.10 | jacques | just making sure |
| 03:09.32 | sorphin | they put you on a pair going to that big ole box |
| 03:09.43 | sorphin | and you go copper -> RT -> Fiber -> CO |
| 03:09.53 | jacques | looks like even if an RT services your address, you hve to cancel your dsl and wait like 2 weeks to get on the RT |
| 03:09.54 | sorphin | as does your voice too |
| 03:10.15 | sorphin | call them and ask :P |
| 03:11.07 | jacques | yeah |
| 03:11.24 | sorphin | you'd see an RT if you had any around |
| 03:11.52 | sorphin | big out of place phone cabinet |
| 03:12.09 | jacques | hmm I havent seen any |
| 03:12.27 | sorphin | but then, you're in cali, so who knows |
| 03:12.46 | jacques | makes sense tht I am in the "heart of silicon valley" and I cant get decent broadband |
| 03:12.53 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:12.54 | sorphin | yup |
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| 03:29.57 | MonMotha | nelson: for some reason, the image I have laying around is like 11MB, sorry |
| 03:30.02 | MonMotha | I can mail you the patch though |
| 03:30.22 | MonMotha | rebuilding just the kernel should be sufficient, but unless you're seeing this at startup (when wheaties is initilized), it's probably not this problem |
| 03:31.10 | nelson | MonMotha: no, it's later than that. |
| 03:31.18 | MonMotha | then it's probably not this problem |
| 03:31.39 | MonMotha | the panic would be "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000" |
| 03:32.02 | nelson | it's not panicing, though. I'm just getting a register dump as if it was an oops. |
| 03:32.12 | MonMotha | (the pointer is uninitilized if an interrupt occurrs immediately after setting upt he interrupt handler, as the kmalloc is just after the irq setup) |
| 03:32.18 | MonMotha | ah, then that's not this |
| 03:32.24 | MonMotha | this will cause an oops and halt the system |
| 03:32.25 | nelson | Okay. |
| 03:32.59 | MonMotha | you'll get "Aiee! Killing interrupt handler." at the bottom |
| 03:33.07 | nelson | the annoying thing is that I can start X from the serial port login, but I can't start it in init.d |
| 03:33.14 | nelson | MonMotha: yeah, I get none of that. |
| 03:33.16 | MonMotha | ah yes, I have a somewhat similar issue |
| 03:33.24 | MonMotha | if I try to startx from the fbcon, the colors are all messed up |
| 03:33.29 | MonMotha | doing it from a serial console it works fine |
| 03:34.05 | nelson | I've seen that too. |
| 03:43.03 | jacques | me three |
| 03:43.25 | jacques | blue screen |
| 03:43.39 | jacques | we never solved it |
| 03:44.46 | nelson | So there's got to be something different about the execution environment by being logged in via serial than in /etc/init.d. |
| 03:48.19 | jacques | yeah I agree, but not sure what |
| 03:48.56 | jacques | I thught I heard something about someone starting it on a different VC and that working |
| 03:51.26 | jacques | maybe that's why most dists start it on VC7... |
| 03:51.30 | jacques | hmmmmmmm |
| 04:07.57 | MonMotha | jacques: yep, the blue screen |
| 04:08.06 | MonMotha | first time it happened, I thought I had left part of my LCD unplugged |
| 04:09.56 | nelson | Hey! |
| 04:10.09 | nelson | it works from tty2! |
| 04:10.19 | nelson | Colors are fine.... |
| 04:11.03 | nelson | Hit Alt-F2, login, and run startx&exit. |
| 04:20.47 | MonMotha | hum |
| 04:20.47 | MonMotha | odd |
| 04:25.33 | jacques | hu? |
| 04:25.40 | jacques | I thought I had tried something that simple |
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| 04:45.03 | nelson | jacques: maybe, but it just worked for me.... |
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| 04:56.10 | nelson | when Xfbdev says that it accepts an option "ttyxx", is that literal or is there supposed to be two digits there?? |
| 04:56.27 | nelson | ttyxx server started from init on /dev/ttyxx |
| 05:14.11 | sorphin | scanline: meep.. TVLand has Mac on atm.. |
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| 05:25.07 | jacques | when the F*CK did something like this become a "technical specification"???????? "High-quality MPEG-2 recording for crisp colors, sparkling audio, and smooth frame rates" |
| 05:25.42 | MonMotha | heh, only if it has a hardware MPEG encoder, but even then that would be stretching it |
| 05:25.51 | MonMotha | you shoudl see Dells bills |
| 05:25.56 | MonMotha | they have all the marketing info right on the invoice |
| 05:27.20 | jacques | well it is a hardware mpeg encoder, but I need to know which chip, not that crap |
| 05:28.11 | jacques | i wonder if I could find the info on the FCC site... |
| 05:28.21 | jacques | (I wonder if I can find the FCC site again) |
| 05:30.12 | jacques | later MonMotha |
| 05:30.51 | jacques | nelson: "started from init" ? hmm |
| 05:31.02 | jacques | maybe only applicable in an inittab ? |
| 05:31.02 | nelson | yes, doesn't htat sounds interesting? |
| 05:33.05 | scanline | sorphin: I have no TV |
| 05:35.49 | jacques | I will have to power up one of my tuxscreens when I get home and play with that stuff |
| 05:37.57 | sorphin | scanline: well, it was a welcome surprise to say the least |
| 05:38.19 | scanline | :) |
| 05:41.27 | jacques | nelson: I see this in the latest Xserver.man: "ttyxx ignored, for servers started the ancient way (from init)." |
| 05:41.51 | jacques | ubt it may not be ignored in Xfbdev |
| 05:48.35 | nelson | jacques: hrm. |
| 05:49.15 | nelson | jacques: how does X get told that it should run on one of the virtual terminals?? Or does it just pick one that isn't running a getty? |
| 05:49.35 | nelson | (sorry to ask and run, but I gotta zzzzz. I'll read yr answer in teh morning.) |
| 05:51.01 | jacques | nelson: I would like to know the answer to that question myself |
| 05:51.09 | jacques | I will try to find out tonight |
| 06:17.00 | jacques_gone | arg no wonder the net is so slow - 3dmark2002 and steam2.0/CS1.6 are both released today |
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| 11:31.20 | ynk | :) hi |
| 11:31.40 | ynk | need some help with QT/Embedded Gui.... |
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| 12:56.36 | prh | anyone familiar with /buildroot-tux ? |
| 13:15.45 | andersee | prh: yes |
| 13:16.06 | andersee | prh: I wrote it |
| 13:25.17 | nelson | MonMotha: well done. |
| 13:26.13 | nelson | MonMotha: I think the trick to that kind of soldering is 1) hot pointy tip, and 2) as little solder as possible. |
| 13:45.36 | prh | andersee: Ahh :o0 |
| 13:46.49 | prh | andersee: got a problem... I downloaded it - and installed the toolchain from hh.org - then did a few cvs login / cvs updates and did "make" It's done some of the parts like gcc (phew thats a monster) but fails in mtd-20011217 |
| 13:49.37 | andersee | How did you grab a hh toolchain? It builds its own toolchain... |
| 13:49.45 | andersee | err |
| 13:49.47 | andersee | Why |
| 13:50.32 | prh | the readme says to get the hh cross compile toolchain and bung it in /skiff/local |
| 13:50.39 | prh | anyway maybe it's not used :O) |
| 13:50.43 | prh | the error I get is: |
| 13:50.45 | prh | mkfs.jffs2.c: In function `write_special_file': |
| 13:50.45 | prh | mkfs.jffs2.c:994: `jint16_t' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 13:50.45 | prh | mkfs.jffs2.c:994: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 13:50.45 | prh | mkfs.jffs2.c:994: for each function it appears in.) |
| 13:50.47 | andersee | prh: dunno why mtd is failing. It worked for me last I built it. But since I have mtdutls installed it used my host system's mkfs.jffs2 |
| 13:50.47 | prh | mkfs.jffs2.c:994: parse error before `kdev' |
| 13:50.50 | prh | mkfs.jffs2.c:1002: `kdev' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 13:50.52 | prh | make[1]: *** [mkfs.jffs2.o] Error 1 |
| 13:50.55 | prh | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/paul/tux/buildroot/buildroot-tux/build/mtd-20011217/util' |
| 13:50.58 | prh | make: *** [/home/paul/tux/buildroot/buildroot-tux/build/mtd-20011217/util/mkfs.jffs2] Error 2 |
| 13:51.32 | andersee | The readme is out of date... |
| 13:51.33 | andersee | :) |
| 13:51.33 | prh | ahh then |
| 13:51.34 | prh | apt-get -f install mtd-tools |
| 13:51.39 | andersee | yup |
| 13:51.44 | prh | :O) |
| 13:52.20 | prh | I have two tux. both with the blob and big ramdisk image from tuxscreen.net/downloads/0.6 |
| 13:52.31 | prh | 1 crashes solid (kernel panic) |
| 13:52.37 | prh | the other works but modprobe fails. |
| 13:52.52 | prh | shoud I cvs update it? |
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| 13:53.08 | andersee | prh: yes |
| 13:53.13 | prh | Ahhh now it just uses my debian mkfs.jffs2. cool |
| 13:53.17 | andersee | And you should use today |
| 13:53.33 | prh | CCCool - I got a ramdisk! |
| 13:53.33 | andersee | And you should use today's uClibc snapshot |
| 13:53.41 | prh | use today ? |
| 13:54.04 | andersee | uClibc was busted for the last couple of weeks... |
| 13:54.31 | andersee | So if your sources/dl/uClibc-snapshot is outdated, it may not boot. |
| 13:54.53 | prh | ahh so what cvs incantation do I need? |
| 13:54.56 | andersee | But todays (which is == 0.9.18) works |
| 13:55.20 | andersee | When did you last obtain sources/dl/uClibc*? |
| 13:55.28 | prh | erm last night |
| 13:55.48 | andersee | prh: ok, you're fine then |
| 13:56.20 | prh | top of changelog says "0.9.18 12 February 2003 |
| 13:56.22 | andersee | prh: assuming you did a 'cvs up' last night your tuxscreen should just work |
| 13:56.45 | andersee | prh: cool. Then you got it this morning. Even better. :) |
| 13:57.27 | prh | ok. now I want the kernel building NBD (network blobk device) for swap... do I literally just change .config in the ./build/linux dir and run make again? |
| 13:59.01 | andersee | easiest is to change sources//linux-2.4.18-rmk6-tux1.config and 'rm -rf build/linux*' then run make |
| 13:59.50 | prh | ok |
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| 14:01.08 | fontenot | this is inspiring me to try the latest buildroot |
| 14:01.34 | prh | andersee: if I want to make tweaks to linuxrc - where should I do that? |
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| 14:02.01 | prh | ./target_skeleton/linuxrc ? |
| 14:05.09 | andersee | prh: there _and_ build/root/linuxrc |
| 14:05.38 | andersee | prh: since target_skeleton is only copied into place when built/root goes missing |
| 14:05.42 | prh | could I just rm build/root/linuxrc ? |
| 14:05.46 | prh | ahh |
| 14:06.45 | prh | it's a very natty system :O) |
| 14:07.17 | fontenot | Connecting to www.uclibc.org[198.88.216.23]:21... failed: Connection refused. |
| 14:07.19 | fontenot | sigh |
| 14:07.28 | fontenot | like old times |
| 14:07.41 | prh | worked for me |
| 14:08.08 | fontenot | im so happy for you |
| 14:08.35 | prh | just a few minutes ago - it should be fine |
| 14:08.50 | fontenot | the ftp server is down - the machine is not listening on port 21 |
| 14:09.18 | fontenot | andersee: is 198.88.216.23 the correct address for www.uclibc.org? |
| 14:09.38 | fontenot | prh: I guess you broke it |
| 14:09.44 | prh | bah |
| 14:09.57 | prh | 64 bytes from 198.88.216.23: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=115.9 ms |
| 14:10.05 | prh | yes the right ip |
| 14:10.41 | andersee | fontenot: uclibc.org server changed location last night |
| 14:10.50 | prh | erk |
| 14:10.55 | andersee | fontenot: unfortunately, ftp is no longer available |
| 14:11.08 | fontenot | then... |
| 14:11.13 | fontenot | how did it work for prh? |
| 14:11.21 | andersee | fontenot: fortunately though, the new system is at a small telco -- lots and _lots_ of bandwidth |
| 14:11.45 | andersee | fontenot: http://www.uclibc.org/downloads/snapshots |
| 14:11.46 | fontenot | andersee: that's cool I dont particularly like ftp |
| 14:11.58 | andersee | fontenot: I just havn't updated buildroot-tux yet |
| 14:14.09 | fontenot | yeah if I tell it not to use the snapshot it downloads 0.9.17 |
| 14:14.52 | andersee | fontenot: don't use .17, its busted |
| 14:15.37 | andersee | fontenot: hold on a sec and I |
| 14:15.46 | andersee | fontenot: hold on a sec and I'll u[pdate buildroot-tux |
| 14:17.12 | fontenot | ok :-) |
| 14:18.35 | andersee | fontenot: done |
| 14:19.03 | fontenot | andersee: thanks :-) |
| 14:21.09 | fontenot | andersee: now I'm getting: cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 14:21.21 | fontenot | I just checked it out a little while ago |
| 14:21.39 | fontenot | oh hmmm |
| 14:21.44 | fontenot | I had to re-login |
| 14:21.47 | fontenot | to cvs |
| 14:21.53 | fontenot | then it worked - strange |
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| 15:03.05 | fontenot | prh: how big is it? |
| 15:03.44 | prh | 2097152 |
| 15:03.55 | fontenot | a big "thank you" to whoever made openssl build again |
| 15:04.20 | fontenot | prh: ah, no tinyx for you eh? :-) |
| 15:04.57 | fontenot | too bad openssh doesn't build :-\ |
| 15:05.13 | andersee | fontenot: I fixed openssl |
| 15:05.31 | andersee | fontenot: I have teaching openssh to cross compile on my todo list... |
| 15:05.59 | fontenot | andersee: you're my hero :-D |
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| 15:06.52 | sieve | morning all |
| 15:07.10 | fontenot | hi sieve |
| 15:07.54 | fontenot | holy cow - ncurses builds now |
| 15:08.49 | andersee | :) |
| 15:08.55 | prh | erm how do you get buildroot to build tinyx etall? |
| 15:09.27 | fontenot | prh: I do: make tinyx && make rxvt && make matchbox && make |
| 15:09.32 | fontenot | (effectively) |
| 15:09.59 | fontenot | you can 'make' the things in the make dir |
| 15:10.09 | fontenot | and then the final make is to build the image |
| 15:11.37 | fontenot | just dont get carries away and end you pwith a 4.5MB image like I frequently do |
| 15:11.48 | ynk | is anybody familiar with QtE ? |
| 15:12.53 | prh | erm, I just transfrered my new ramdisk - xdownload then flash ramdisk... reboot... and its booted kernel 2.4.18-rmk2-tux1 (timr@localhost) which is not what I just built! |
| 15:12.56 | prh | what went wrong? |
| 15:13.22 | prh | also jffs2_scan_inode_node(): Data CRC failed on node at 0x003d7978: Read 0x86c53dc6, calculated 0x650d9632 |
| 15:13.25 | prh | Child dir "2.4.18-rmk6-tux1" (ino #10) of dir ino #9 appears to be a hard link |
| 15:13.27 | prh | Child dir "lib" (ino #53) of dir ino #52 appears to be a hard link |
| 15:13.30 | prh | .... |
| 15:13.34 | fontenot | prh: which bootldr you running? |
| 15:13.35 | prh | and no prompt |
| 15:13.39 | fontenot | I mean which blob version? |
| 15:14.05 | prh | erm 2.0.5-pre3 from the file blob-20020709 |
| 15:14.12 | fontenot | you need a somewhat recent blob to use the kernel in the jffs2 |
| 15:14.32 | prh | where do I get a current blob? |
| 15:14.33 | fontenot | hmg I think that's new enough |
| 15:15.04 | fontenot | let me check minne |
| 15:15.35 | fontenot | yeah that's the version I have so that's not your problem |
| 15:17.14 | fontenot | arg I'm out of switch ports |
| 15:18.18 | fontenot | prh: how long did it take to download/flash? |
| 15:18.32 | fontenot | offhand I dont know what the problem is but it sounds kinda familiar |
| 15:18.37 | prh | a few minutes |
| 15:18.43 | prh | I'll try flashing again |
| 15:18.59 | fontenot | good idea |
| 15:19.13 | prh | I'm at work. it's at home. good think I can control the power to it from here ;O) |
| 15:19.47 | fontenot | ooh neat |
| 15:20.04 | prh | bah that 1 second is a very quick second |
| 15:20.24 | prh | it is "xdownload ramdisk" then "flash ramdisk" yes? |
| 15:21.13 | fontenot | it's been a few months since I did it but that sounds right |
| 15:22.13 | pattieja | morning |
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| 15:24.23 | fontenot | heh mine really does not like it if I boot it with the netcard not plugged into the network |
| 15:24.23 | prh | Bytes Sent:2097152 BPS:11060 |
| 15:24.28 | fontenot | it hangs hard |
| 15:25.26 | prh | Received 2097152 (0x00200000) bytes |
| 15:26.19 | fontenot | prh: so far so good |
| 15:27.50 | prh | blob> flash ramdisk |
| 15:27.50 | prh | Saving ramdisk to flash |
| 15:27.50 | prh | erasing at 0x00020000... scanning down... resume writing at 0x00020000 |
| 15:27.50 | prh | erasing at 0x00053574... scanning down... resume writing at 0x0003fff8 |
| 15:27.50 | prh | erasing at 0x001676f4... scanning down... resume writing at 0x0015fff8 |
| 15:27.52 | prh | erasing at 0x00211334... scanning down... resume writing at 0x001ffffc |
| 15:27.55 | prh | blob> |
| 15:27.58 | prh | looks right |
| 15:28.09 | prh | same :O( |
| 15:29.36 | andersee | prh: I usually do an 'erase ramdisk' prior to 'flash ramdisk' to make sure there are no leftovers |
| 15:29.53 | prh | ahh |
| 15:30.10 | prh | good idea batman |
| 15:30.19 | prh | it's transferring the right amount of bytes |
| 15:32.21 | fontenot | anyone remember the maximum fs image size that will fit? |
| 15:33.18 | CosmicPenguin | Morning folks |
| 15:33.29 | Aeternum | I think that if you do not erase the whole flash prior de flashing the new ramdisk, it will only erase as big as the ramdisk itself... meaning if the previous ramdisk was bigger, you'll have leftovers from it. Do an erase flash prior to flashing. |
| 15:33.48 | prh | aaahhh |
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| 15:42.02 | CosmicPenguin | Agarwal: I just caught the tail end of your comment, but if you are talking about the Tuxscreen, thats exactly right |
| 15:43.53 | prh | ahh thats better |
| 15:43.58 | fontenot | :-) |
| 15:44.18 | prh | it's found my kernel now but.. should I worry at these: |
| 15:44.24 | prh | SA-1100 PCMCIA (CS release 3.1.22) |
| 15:44.24 | prh | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): CS asked for 0V, still applying 3.3V.. |
| 15:44.24 | prh | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 15:44.24 | prh | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): CS asked for 0V, still applying 3.3V.. |
| 15:44.24 | prh | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 15:44.29 | fontenot | nope |
| 15:44.29 | prh | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 15:44.34 | prh | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 15:44.43 | fontenot | i always get those with my network card in |
| 15:44.48 | fontenot | and it works fine |
| 15:44.52 | prh | cool |
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| 15:45.16 | prh | hmm it didn't do the nfsmount |
| 15:45.29 | prh | yay modprobe works! |
| 15:53.46 | CosmicPenguin | welcome prpplague the white! |
| 15:54.48 | CosmicPenguin | Argh - the xscale kernel uses ttySx instead of ttySAx |
| 15:54.57 | CosmicPenguin | THat will screw you up if you aren't paying attention |
| 15:57.26 | prpplague | howdy |
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| 16:21.07 | TomW | MonMotha: gm om |
| 16:21.22 | TomW | prpplague: morning |
| 16:23.04 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: uClibc 0.9.18 released... |
| 16:28.23 | prpplague | TomW: lo |
| 16:28.50 | TomW | prpplague: I awoke yesterday to find that the harddrive on the server was dying (Maxtor < 1 year in service) |
| 16:29.07 | TomW | After two hours of rebuilding stuff, I then find that my static IP no longer works... |
| 16:29.21 | prpplague | TomW: doh |
| 16:29.27 | TomW | Two hours later, I determine that it is definately not something at my end and call Network Control Center. |
| 16:29.41 | TomW | They then look shit over and tell me that they have no record of that static IP assignment. |
| 16:29.47 | prpplague | TomW: did they refuse to talk to you since you were using linux? |
| 16:29.53 | TomW | Four hours later, I get in touch with my Sales Engineer at PennTeleData, and she gets the ball rolling to get me online. |
| 16:30.05 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.05 | prpplague | doh |
| 16:30.20 | TomW | "you'll have to use this IP instead".... |
| 16:30.31 | TomW | So, 6:30 PM last night, I drag out the three letters from Network Solutions that joyfully announced that they were changing the way accounts were to be managed by their customers (me) and attempt to login to change the DNS numbering. |
| 16:30.44 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.56 | TomW | After working at my firewall script for many hours last night, I get up this morning, sit down and say to myself "what the fuck is going on? this script was designed by me to be simple to change, all I needed to do was to change the IP address of the host in the script and that should have been it!??" |
| 16:31.12 | TomW | THEN, I discover that IP_FORWARDING hasn't been turned on in the kernel, so a "echo '1' > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and shit starts working fine!!! |
| 16:31.27 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I saw that |
| 16:31.27 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: woo-hoo! |
| 16:31.27 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I am just about to boot my thinclient with pixil based on i386-uclibc |
| 16:31.27 | CosmicPenguin | buildroot.cramfs - 2469888 |
| 16:31.29 | TomW | prpplague: so, how has your "day" been going? :-/ |
| 16:32.28 | prpplague | TomW: let me tell ya, you don't want to know..........] |
| 16:32.33 | TomW | prpplague: No, the people at the Network Control Center are pros and they use Solaris & Linux. |
| 16:32.40 | TomW | heh |
| 16:32.47 | prpplague | TomW: cool |
| 16:32.58 | TomW | Was there a full moon last night or something? |
| 16:33.19 | prpplague | TomW: naw, just all this crap with my wife |
| 16:33.29 | prpplague | women are evil |
| 16:34.04 | TomW | You know, I have been running VMware Workstation on the linux server and virtualized the dns-mail, ftp and http "machines" as vmware computers. |
| 16:35.03 | TomW | that approach really saved my but as that harddrive was really fsck'ed. The partition with the virtual computers on it was still okay and I was able to copy them to another machine and get vmware working on it. |
| 16:35.50 | TomW | essentially, I would have been off-line for a few hours without any data loss in the mail server, IF the IP shit hadn't happened. |
| 16:36.46 | TomW | prpplague: women want to be made to feel secure and valuable to their man. All else is "noise" to get you to notice them... |
| 16:37.31 | prpplague | TomW: hmm, they need a mute button |
| 16:38.49 | TomW | heh, yeah, push-button wife, buttons labeled: "clean the house", "cook meal", "make love", ... |
| 16:39.26 | TomW | they just don't seem to work that way. :-/ |
| 16:39.51 | TomW | as a matter of fact, I am not even sure how they work, they puzzle me too. |
| 16:44.04 | prpplague | TomW: i've been trying to get andersee to make a multi-purpose app call gf |
| 16:44.39 | prpplague | TomW: i.e. maid->gf sexslave->gf beergopher->gf |
| 16:47.20 | TomW | prpplague: ahhh! an Object Oriented approach, eh? |
| 16:48.24 | TomW | while (need_attention) { gf->be_sexy (TRUE); } |
| 16:49.13 | TomW | more likely: |
| 16:49.18 | TomW | try |
| 16:49.31 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.17 | TomW | except on gf_nasty; |
| 16:52.12 | CosmicPenguin | andersee doesn't do C++, does he? |
| 16:52.36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: don't forget to make it themeable - you might want to change the skin occasionally |
| 16:59.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool, nice idea |
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| 17:00.21 | prpplague | sjhill: no time for the new timsys guru |
| 17:09.26 | sjhill | heh |
| 17:10.56 | prpplague | sjhill: almost got a free ride to that timsys training class, freakin sales signed a new install for the same time :( |
| 17:13.56 | sjhill | bummer |
| 17:15.12 | sjhill | what was the website to the discount computer parts place? |
| 17:15.35 | prh | TomW: cheaper way of virtualizing stuff is to use user mode linux - works a treat. and it's prolly easier on the machine too |
| 17:17.44 | prpplague | sjhill: i've got several |
| 17:17.51 | prpplague | sjhill: what are you looking for? |
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| 17:25.17 | sjhill | prpplague: looking for scsi drives |
| 17:26.24 | kergoth | hey |
| 17:38.37 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: halted.com? |
| 17:45.45 | prpplague | sjhill: try http://www.compgeeks.com |
| 17:51.25 | sjhill | thx guys |
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| 18:11.34 | CosmicPenguin | arg - grub will make a sane man go crazy |
| 18:24.29 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: yeah, "themeable", THAT is important! heh |
| 18:38.57 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.24 | CosmicPenguin | ls -la /user/projects/thinclient/target/boot/grub/stage1 |
| 18:39.24 | CosmicPenguin | -rw-r--r-- 1 jordanc jordanc 512 Feb 12 10:47 /user/projects/thinclient/target/boot/grub/stage1 |
| 18:43.44 | TomW | ibot: seen MonMotha |
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| 18:43.55 | TomW | mmmm |
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| 19:06.49 | sjhill | it's that sorphin person |
| 19:10.25 | sorphin | sjhill: don't you have some mips to whore? |
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| 19:51.29 | MonMotha | ibot seen tomw |
| 19:51.30 | | tomw <tom@24.229.145.19> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 1h 7m 35s ago, saying: 'mmmm'. |
| 19:51.39 | MonMotha | tag |
| 19:51.42 | prh | anyone tried nbd swap on tux? |
| 19:54.41 | TimRiker | I tried for a bit but did not get it working. |
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| 19:58.30 | prh | ah. |
| 19:58.42 | prh | any other swap over netowrk options? |
| 19:59.16 | prh | (I'm wanting to run debian over swap but it's bit heavy on ram... is old dpkg and apt) |
| 20:00.10 | pattieja | prh: what about NFS swap? |
| 20:00.55 | prh | no work |
| 20:01.10 | pattieja | prh: why not? |
| 20:01.12 | prh | it makes the swap ok then |
| 20:01.28 | prh | swapon /mnt/.swap |
| 20:01.39 | prh | rw_swap_page: bad swap file |
| 20:01.49 | prh | Unable to find swap-space signature |
| 20:01.57 | pattieja | are you using NFS swap currently? |
| 20:02.03 | prh | swapon /mnt/.swap: Invalid argument |
| 20:02.10 | prh | no |
| 20:02.16 | prh | I prolly need to patch something |
| 20:02.18 | pattieja | then what are you attempting to do? |
| 20:03.10 | prh | eh? |
| 20:03.30 | pattieja | if you are not using the NFS swap patch, but trying to swap using network resources... |
| 20:03.49 | prh | I'm just trying to swap over nfs - is there a specific patch for doing so? |
| 20:03.53 | pattieja | the only way I know of that you can do this is using the swap patches to either NFS or NBD |
| 20:04.00 | pattieja | yes, most certainly there is |
| 20:04.21 | pattieja | if you do not use it, you will find yourself deadlocking in certain situations, especially using NFS swap |
| 20:04.49 | pattieja | it may work for awhile, but under moderate pressure, you can find yourself running out of free memory in which to actually swap, and that's when you deadlock the kernel |
| 20:05.02 | pattieja | the particular patch for NFS swap takes care of that |
| 20:05.24 | pattieja | prh: did you by any chance do 'mkswap /mnt/.swap'? |
| 20:05.33 | prh | yep |
| 20:05.38 | pattieja | before or after mounting it? |
| 20:05.51 | prh | before :O) |
| 20:05.59 | pattieja | try it after |
| 20:06.12 | prh | tried both |
| 20:06.19 | prh | made sure it has synced, rebooted... |
| 20:06.22 | pattieja | ahh, then I know the reason |
| 20:06.28 | prh | nbd swap would be grand but it crashes |
| 20:06.41 | pattieja | NFS, by default, does not support SWAP files, I think |
| 20:06.52 | prh | right so I need the patch to make it work at all |
| 20:06.53 | pattieja | nbd is not really what you want as far as swapping |
| 20:06.59 | prh | no? |
| 20:07.09 | pattieja | prh: that's correct, IF YOU WANT TO DO PURE NFS SWAPPING! |
| 20:07.43 | pattieja | otherwise, (here comes the nasty part) you can simply do 'losetup /dev/loop1 /mnt/.swap' after mounting your swap file directory |
| 20:07.50 | pattieja | and then 'mkswap /dev/loop1' |
| 20:07.56 | pattieja | and then 'swapon /dev/loop1' |
| 20:07.57 | pattieja | :) |
| 20:08.00 | pattieja | then it works |
| 20:08.04 | prh | ayeeeee! |
| 20:08.10 | pattieja | since swap files are supported on loopback filesystems |
| 20:08.12 | pattieja | hehe |
| 20:08.30 | pattieja | kind of a cludge to get around the 'NFS doesn't support swap' problem |
| 20:08.35 | pattieja | unless you patch it, of course |
| 20:08.51 | prh | well that gives me swap. |
| 20:09.03 | pattieja | did it work? |
| 20:09.17 | prh | just hope that nothing important gets swapped out like the nfs daemon.... (which is waht I presume the patch fixes... :O) |
| 20:09.25 | pattieja | you got it |
| 20:09.27 | pattieja | hehe |
| 20:09.29 | prh | now I try and load it a bit |
| 20:09.36 | pattieja | I wouldn't |
| 20:09.40 | pattieja | you will deadlock |
| 20:09.44 | pattieja | :) |
| 20:09.51 | pattieja | then, you ask, what's the point? |
| 20:09.59 | pattieja | I reply, I don't know |
| 20:10.01 | prh | whats the point? |
| 20:10.08 | pattieja | I don't know |
| 20:10.11 | pattieja | :| |
| 20:10.19 | sorphin | you have enough memory htat you don't need to swap ;p |
| 20:11.26 | prh | do not! 16M is not enough to run dpkg when its installing a package like console-tools that does lots of memory heavy processing |
| 20:11.41 | prh | ok it's locked ;O) |
| 20:11.48 | pattieja | well, I guess just try to do what you need to do and see if it works |
| 20:11.50 | pattieja | ouch |
| 20:12.03 | pattieja | I was pretty sure it would do that |
| 20:12.11 | pattieja | you really need the NFS swap patches |
| 20:12.36 | prh | right now with this ere mangfangled buildroot-tux - If I got a patch for the kernel - does it handle that for me? |
| 20:13.02 | sorphin | pattieja: better off w/ a network block device than NFS |
| 20:13.13 | sorphin | i thikn anyways |
| 20:13.43 | pattieja | sorphin: nope. same problem |
| 20:14.07 | pattieja | it might work for a little bit longer, but eventually the nbd-client process gets swapped out too, and then... |
| 20:14.40 | pattieja | the most work for swapping over the network has been done (IMHO) using the NFS swap patches |
| 20:15.11 | pattieja | the NBD swap patches weren't nearly as featureful when I was playing with them (but that was over a year ago) |
| 20:15.27 | prh | nbdclient has a -s options which _should_ lock it in memory for just that reason |
| 20:15.31 | pattieja | and I think they still had stability problems, whereas the NFS patches didn't |
| 20:15.40 | pattieja | prh: cool |
| 20:15.49 | prh | yea but it still crashes doesnt it :O) |
| 20:16.00 | pattieja | I've switched to using the ENBD, but I don't think it has that -s option |
| 20:16.08 | pattieja | prh: what? the NFS patches? |
| 20:16.15 | prh | no the nbd swap |
| 20:16.30 | pattieja | haven't tried nbd swap |
| 20:16.49 | prh | crashed in much the same way - scrolling dumps on the terminal |
| 20:17.00 | pattieja | I tried using ENBD to do swapping, and as long as you have about 4 channels to the same block device, it works for awhile |
| 20:17.12 | prh | 4 channels? |
| 20:17.15 | pattieja | yep |
| 20:17.16 | pattieja | :) |
| 20:17.25 | prh | what are channels? |
| 20:17.48 | pattieja | you can have multiple "channels" open to an NBD device in order to increase the bandwidth to that block device |
| 20:17.51 | sjhill | prh: CBS NBC FOX ABC |
| 20:18.07 | pattieja | it dramatically improves performance the more channels you have |
| 20:18.18 | pattieja | I think by default, you can have up to 16 simultaneous channels |
| 20:18.56 | pattieja | the purpose is to allow different physical routes to the same ENBD server. that way, multiple channels also help with redundancy in case one route happens to fail for some reason |
| 20:19.26 | prh | sjhill: still none the wiser. Oh you're talking about crappy American tv. right. :O) |
| 20:19.36 | pattieja | but using the same physical route to the resource (by specifying the same IP address/hostname) and using multiple channels improves performance |
| 20:19.40 | prh | pattieja: ah. |
| 20:20.07 | prh | thats odd! I'd have thought they would just be competing with eother in the network stacks! |
| 20:21.42 | pattieja | it's really cool the way he set it up |
| 20:22.37 | pattieja | I think, obviously, if you only have a 100Mbit connection, you can only get a maximum of 100Mbit, but a single channel doesn't utilize all that bandwidth (for some reason), so adding channels increases the utilization |
| 20:22.44 | pattieja | he's got it all spelled out on his website |
| 20:23.20 | prh | this is just enbd yea? |
| 20:23.43 | pattieja | http://www.it.uc3m.es/~ptb/nbd/ |
| 20:23.52 | pattieja | prh: right |
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| 20:28.19 | pattieja | prh: cool |
| 20:29.52 | prh | erk just remembered to apply the patch (had put it in build/kernel-patches) and run oldconfig.. then put the new .config in sources/linu...config and rm build/linux |
| 20:35.03 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: you here? |
| 20:35.46 | file | CosmicPenguin: is $15 USD for a Celeron 300A CPU a good deal? |
| 20:37.06 | prh | on tuxscreens - what distribution are most people running? the buildroot one? |
| 20:37.57 | prh | or do peopl run ipkg type familiar stuff on pcmcia disc? network? |
| 20:40.28 | CosmicPenguin | file: does that include shipping? |
| 20:40.41 | file | CosmicPenguin: nah that's single |
| 20:40.59 | file | in total I paid $35 USD for two Slot 1 mobos and a Celeron 300A... without shipping |
| 20:41.01 | pattieja | prh: remember to mount the NFS export your swap files reside on with rsize and wsize smaller than the page size of your architecture (i.e., on Intel with 4K pages, I've set rsize and wsize to 2048 and it seemed to work quite well |
| 20:41.10 | file | shipping is killer because I paid twice (US -> US, US -> Canada) |
| 20:41.24 | pattieja | if you set them to the same size as your page size, it may end up running out of memory anyway :) |
| 20:41.24 | file | so let's not include it |
| 20:41.30 | CosmicPenguin | file: yeah, I don't think thats too bad |
| 20:41.38 | file | CosmicPenguin: seems to be really overclockable |
| 20:42.14 | CosmicPenguin | file: yeah, it should be... get a good fan, and off you go |
| 20:42.23 | pattieja | file: or for $199.99 you can get an Intel Dot Station on TigerDirect.com :) which has a Celeron 300MHz CPU |
| 20:42.31 | file | pattieja: I'm in Canada |
| 20:42.40 | file | so that would triple for me :p |
| 20:42.53 | prh | pattieja: : yea cheers |
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| 20:43.17 | pattieja | so you're saying the Celeron 300 you're wanting to buy would only cost me $5 US? |
| 20:43.20 | pattieja | wow |
| 20:43.41 | file | I already bought it |
| 20:43.49 | file | it was shipped out today (Even got the number) |
| 20:43.49 | prh | how does one change the default linuxargs string that blob sends? |
| 20:45.27 | CosmicPenguin | file: I need some 1U rack mounts - I have no room in here for all the motherboards I seem to be accumulating |
| 20:46.46 | file | CosmicPenguin: oh my |
| 20:47.00 | file | CosmicPenguin: I'm thinking about getting a case and throwing together a system for my step-dad out of this old mobo |
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| 20:50.43 | pattieja | hmm. keyboard just stopped working |
| 20:50.58 | pattieja | had to unplug it and plug it back in to get it working again |
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| 21:07.36 | file | argh |
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| 21:58.34 | sjhill | anyone worked with JFFS2 lately on Toshiba NOR flash? |
| 21:59.11 | Lethal | no |
| 21:59.22 | sjhill | Lethal: you moron |
| 21:59.27 | sjhill | :P |
| 21:59.39 | Lethal | sjhill, I was just answering the question :P |
| 21:59.55 | sjhill | lol |
| 21:59.58 | Lethal | sjhill, I have the hcp5 source which writes to flash, if you want it. |
| 22:00.38 | Lethal | it works too, unlike PMON. |
| 22:01.46 | Lethal | and for some reason I have the vxworks port too |
| 22:06.50 | sjhill | ewww |
| 22:07.10 | Lethal | yeah, that was my reaction too, before I removed it. |
| 22:07.24 | Lethal | I should probably check this into perforce.. |
| 22:07.30 | Lethal | fuck toshiba sucks.. |
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| 22:56.23 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: yes? |
| 23:00.27 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: how ya doing... :) |
| 23:00.37 | Russ | ok |
| 23:00.49 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: Do you have a sec? |
| 23:01.36 | Russ | ya |
| 23:02.00 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I'm trying to run grub as follows: |
| 23:02.07 | CosmicPenguin | root (hd1,0) |
| 23:02.10 | CosmicPenguin | setup (hd1) |
| 23:02.18 | CosmicPenguin | Where hd1 is my CF (on /dev/sda) |
| 23:02.32 | CosmicPenguin | And this is what I get at the end: Error 31: File is not sector aligned |
| 23:02.53 | CosmicPenguin | Which appears to be associated with stage2 |
| 23:02.57 | Russ | maybe you need to specify CHS? |
| 23:03.15 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: do you know how to do that with grub? |
| 23:03.32 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, do you have any reports of successful installs on a CF with cramfs? |
| 23:03.52 | Russ | I've never touched CF, only NOR and DOC |
| 23:04.01 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh... |
| 23:04.10 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: but it worked fine on those? |
| 23:04.14 | Russ | yes |
| 23:04.40 | theDevil- | I used FAT and syslinux on CF so far |
| 23:05.05 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: alright - I'll stare at it a bit... I really don't want to go back to ext2 or use a initrd |
| 23:05.14 | CosmicPenguin | If I can avoid it |
| 23:05.44 | theDevil- | CosmicPenguin: do you have other ideas for bootstrapping it besides syslinux? |
| 23:06.07 | CosmicPenguin | theDevil-: blob and lilo both work great for ext2 |
| 23:06.25 | theDevil- | hmm but I can only access it through an USB reader |
| 23:07.12 | *** part/#elinux ynk (stephan@new.m00n.la) |
| 23:07.43 | theDevil- | although I guess I could boot it and load a ram disk over tftp |
| 23:08.16 | theDevil- | why not use jffs2? I think that is compressed as well |
| 23:08.27 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: only slightly |
| 23:08.47 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 23:08.59 | Russ | there is a function within a function ala pascal |
| 23:09.49 | CosmicPenguin | disk_read_savesect_func() ? |
| 23:10.04 | Russ | and disk_read_blocklist_func |
| 23:11.19 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: try turning on debugging in fsys_cramfs to get the read offsets |
| 23:11.44 | CosmicPenguin | inode offset 1404, dirname p /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:11.44 | CosmicPenguin | file found, size 84436 |
| 23:11.44 | CosmicPenguin | reading a file of 21 blocks starting at offset 955436 (block 0) |
| 23:11.44 | CosmicPenguin | filepos is 0 |
| 23:11.44 | CosmicPenguin | reading to 512 bytes at block 0 at offset 955436, 2318 bytes...decomp`d 512 byt |
| 23:11.45 | CosmicPenguin | es |
| 23:11.47 | CosmicPenguin | failed |
| 23:12.11 | Russ | so where does the error 31 come in? |
| 23:12.20 | CosmicPenguin | right after that |
| 23:12.37 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: this is all part of the install command |
| 23:13.07 | Russ | wait, you are trying to do install (hd0,1)? |
| 23:13.46 | Russ | hmm..I never did install, I just put grub at the head of the DoC |
| 23:13.47 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: well, no. I'm doing setup (hd1,0) |
| 23:13.59 | Russ | isn't (hd1,0) cramfs? |
| 23:14.18 | CosmicPenguin | what binary do you put at the head of the doc? |
| 23:14.22 | CosmicPenguin | stage1, stage2? |
| 23:14.39 | prh | dont you want "root (hd0,1)" "setup (hd0)" |
| 23:14.46 | Russ | doc head+stage2 I think |
| 23:14.57 | Russ | where does the "failed" come in |
| 23:16.28 | Russ | can you enable debugging in grub to, and dump me the whole session? |
| 23:16.32 | Russ | s/to/too/ |
| 23:19.53 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: sure - it will take me a second though |
| 23:52.00 | sieve | goodnight folks |