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00:16.23sievenicht all
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02:41.50sorphinzwelch: good luck :P
02:43.05filebbl
02:43.17sorphinheh
02:43.22sorphincould be waiting a while, he's 5 hours idle
02:45.10sorphinor you could always email him ;p
02:49.00sorphinheh
02:49.08sorphinwell, have fun..
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03:20.03TimRikerzwelch: sup? Tim@Rikers.org
03:20.19zwelchhey tim... long time no chat
03:20.37zwelchgot a visit today from...
03:21.03zwelchsomeone /nick'd as schurig in #gentoo-arm
03:22.22zwelchhe updated the wiki at openembedded.org from our conversation about what gentoo's doing
03:22.36zwelchand while there i saw your name splattered everywhere
03:22.45zwelchso i thought i'd drop by and...
03:30.52TimRikerheh. just keeping busy. ;-)
03:31.42TimRiker1 year old woke up, so I'm distracted at the moment.
03:52.09jacques_gonezwelch: hi!
03:52.23jacques_gonezwelch: remember me? we talked a long time ago about gentoo on arm
03:52.30zwelchjacques_gone: my goodness... fancy seeing you here :)
03:52.44jacques_gonebut I got stuck on part and stalled - I am bad about that
03:53.01zwelchi'm still cranking along 6 months later
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05:23.56jacquesdo webpals have pcmcia slots?
05:24.23TimRikerone isa slot iirc
05:25.02jacques:-( a pcmcia would be very useful
05:25.08jacquesisa les so
05:25.21TimRikerhttp://webpal.bigbrd.c
05:25.31TimRikerhttp://webpal.bigbrd.com/facts.html eep
05:25.49MonMotha6jacques: so get yourself an ISA->PCMCIA card :)
05:25.57MonMotha6just be careful it can handle the webpal's crippled ISA slot
05:26.58jacquesyeah I remember hearing the isa wasnt fully compliant or something...
05:29.21jacquesso the isa slot is the only way to get it on the net other than serial? (or parallel)
05:30.02MonMotha6pretty much
05:30.09MonMotha6you can slap an ethernet card in it
05:30.28MonMotha6and it may be possible to wire up some missing signals to the slot (no chance of any DMA though)
05:30.46MonMotha6among other things, extra IRQs may be possible...there's two unused IRQs, but they're edge triggered, not level
05:31.25MonMotha6there may also be some more address space available
05:31.32jacqueshas anyone tried a ISA->PCMCIA card yet?
05:31.40jacquesi bet those are getting hard to find
05:31.44jacquesas are all isa cards
05:32.22MonMotha6I have one, haven't tried it in my webpal as I can't even get it working in my desktop due to a lack of IRQs
05:33.18jacquesdamn irqs
05:33.43MonMotha6well, it's the lack thereof on the PC
05:33.53MonMotha6however, the IRQ slot on the webpal isn't too bad
05:34.01MonMotha6no memory mapped access, no DMA, and only one IRQ
05:34.15MonMotha6also, some of the power lines aren't connected (the negative voltages, and +12V is connected to +5V)
05:34.41MonMotha6other than that, some higher address lines are unconnected, but if you stick to the lower addresses, you should be fien
05:35.02MonMotha6oh, and no io_rdy, so no EPP pport
05:37.28MonMotha6anyway, I'm going to bed
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11:09.14ynkhi
11:11.14ynkis there any eLinux tutorial? i tried to make a debootstrap'ed debian sys but i failed with the kernel and booting stuff....(simply got no idea) .... so a complete embedded linux from scratch might be another point to try it....please tell me if there's one of those ....
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15:34.09CosmicPenguinMorning
15:34.28filehey CosmicPenguin
15:34.49sorphinsomething like that
15:39.23GPSFansorphin: morning, is a friday better than monday?
15:39.37sorphinGPSFan: not where i work it isn't
15:40.22GPSFan;>( sorry, how 'bout weekends?
15:40.42sorphinGPSFan: this weekend was supposed to be, but it won't be now
15:41.14filepower of attorney documentation is missing and is required for clearance
15:41.19filenot good
15:41.27sorphinhehe, go opera
15:41.33sorphinOpera Releases "Bork" Edition
15:41.39GPSFancool.
15:42.09sorphinto quote /.
15:42.12sorphin"The Bork edition behaves differently on one Web site: MSN. Users accessing the MSN site will see the page transformed into the language of the famous Swedish Chef from the Muppet Show: Bork, Bork, Bork! "
15:43.43filenice
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16:47.30sievemorning all
16:48.06sorphinsignal11: lo
16:48.09sorphingrr
16:48.11sorphinsieve: lo even
16:48.19sorphindamn name matching
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16:57.47sievebrb...
17:01.10kergothyo
17:02.21sorphinlo chris
17:05.09sjhilllo' kergoth
17:05.19sjhill~cluebat sorphin
17:05.21ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps sorphin.
17:05.31sorphin~lart sjhill
17:06.18sjhillheh
17:09.37sorphinsjhill: what's up mipswhore?
17:09.46sjhillsorphin: jffs2 on mips flash today
17:10.30sorphinsjhill: we got the Monte stuff working on the mips based tivo, seems to work well
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17:40.31sorphinGPSFan: re ken
17:41.04GPSFanhey dan how goes your friday?
17:41.52sorphinit's going quite slowly
17:43.15GPSFansorphin: looks like someone got an old 3C509 card to work on the WebPal: http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=wpalgen&Post=63&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=
17:43.24sorphinnod
17:43.58sorphinlooked like i saw mention of my card (sorta) in the non working pile (the eagle one, they just called it an E2000plus (which is another name for it)
17:46.59GPSFansorphin: I did a quick look at the schematics for both card reference designs ans your daveicom doesn't use SBHE, so there might be a driver hack to make it work (speculation)
17:47.45sorphinit gives the same errors as the other card, so i dunno what's up
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19:00.13sorphinROTFL
19:00.22sorphinFreePornForOurTroops.com
19:02.25sjhillomg
19:02.31sjhillthat's horrible
19:02.41sjhillpls tell me there is not content there?
19:03.40sorphinactually to quote the page i got the link from:
19:03.58sorphin"An Internet company is doing its best to keep the Middle East free for democracy, free speech and pornography by offering the troops free adult videos and DVDs in an effort to make their time away from home a bit easier.
19:03.58sorphinMail-order and Internet company DirectLink Media Group is operating FreePornForOurTroops.com, a Web site offering more than 500 free video and DVD products to military personnel. The troops only pay for the shipping and handling charges.
19:03.59sorphin"
19:06.14sjhillhonestly, that disgusts me
19:06.23sorphinheh
19:06.31sorphinwhat're you? anti-pr0n? :P
19:12.44sjhillactually, yes
19:12.49sorphinrotfl
19:13.13sorphinwell, that's your problem then
19:14.01sjhilli guess
19:14.21sorphini have no prob w/ it as long as it's not an obsession
19:46.16kergoth`lunchsorphin: aha, thats funny as hell
19:46.53sorphinkergoth: yeah
19:47.15sorphinkergoth: what's new digiboy?
19:47.38kergothnada. working. trying to not go postal. the usual
19:47.39kergothyou?
19:48.31sorphintrying to stay awake, bored off my arse, wanting to go home
20:40.34CosmicPenguinFellas, whats happening?
20:41.04sjhillCosmicPenguin: i considering foodservice instead of software
20:41.16sjhilli'd make a good waiter
20:41.29CosmicPenguinsjhill: timesys not going well?
20:41.47sjhillCosmicPenguin: heh, no it's great....i've just been chasing my tail in MTD for the past 2 hours
20:42.04CosmicPenguinsjhill: fun....
20:42.45CosmicPenguinI'm gonna knock off here in a few hours, go out, get some food, cook up a Valentines day feast, and then get drunk
20:42.51sjhillnow i have to post the list and most likely look like an idiot, but i'm used to that
20:42.53CosmicPenguinSo I've got that going for me, which is nice....
20:42.59kergothCosmicPenguin: good plan
20:43.01sjhilli mean sorphin looks like an idiot all the time, so it can't be too bad
20:43.15sjhilllol @ CosmicPenguin
20:43.28sjhillCosmicPenguin: i have not seen that in a long time
20:43.33CosmicPenguinsjhill: don't worry about it.  I talked one of my customers into putting JFFS2 on his box, and now its breaking all over the place
20:43.34sjhilli feel like a $100
20:43.50CosmicPenguinsjhill: needless to say, he's a little irritated at me
20:44.02sjhilljffs2 is slooooow
20:44.16sjhilli almost hit my board with hammer over it
20:44.54kergothflash is slow. jffs2 isnt that slow, especially mount time with current cvs jffs2 :)
20:44.56CosmicPenguinsjhill: this is doing something wierd - it has huge pauses (like minutes long), when the kernel first boots - but if you wait long enough, the board still comes up
20:45.30sjhillCosmicPenguin: sounds like kergoth is suggesting latest CVS head
20:46.38sjhillhi file
20:46.45filewhat's up?
20:47.01sjhillMTD messiness
20:47.06fileoh ic
21:08.15CosmicPenguinsjhill: now, If I could just get this damn cramfs to work, life would be good
21:15.51CosmicPenguinfile: you get your $15 mobo yet>
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21:26.26filewb everyone
21:26.26filealmost everyone
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21:27.25fileCosmicPenguin: you there?
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21:28.55ade|happydamn net splits
21:31.29fileade|happy: I agree
21:31.34fileCosmicPenguin: it's in transit
21:33.37CosmicPenguinfile: kewl
21:33.55file2/14/2003 11:30:00 AM POWER OF ATTORNEY REQUIRED;BROKER ASSIGNED, RELEASED FOR DELIVERY FREDERICTION,   CA
21:33.55file2/14/2003 10:39:00 AM UPS INTERNAL ACTIVITY CODE LACHINE,   CA
21:33.58filethat's the last tracking info
21:34.52fileI don't understand it... but oh well
21:38.22CosmicPenguinfile: something having to do with you being in canada?
21:38.30fileCosmicPenguin: probably
21:38.54fileCosmicPenguin: they said Tuesday when I called for delivery, but if it's in Lachine - it'll be delivered Monday :)
21:39.00sjhill"Blame Canada" la la la
21:39.41CosmicPenguinfile: are you sure that you don't have a record?
21:39.50CosmicPenguinLots of stuff seems to not make it to you....
21:39.58fileCosmicPenguin: LOL
21:40.06fileCosmicPenguin: the only thing that didn't make it was prpplague's thing
21:40.13fileeverything else I've had sent to me has made it!
21:41.35fileCosmicPenguin: I'm overall happy... how are you?
21:47.27CosmicPenguinfile: a little burned out
21:48.10fileCosmicPenguin: oh ic
21:48.20fileI was hoping my mobo and stuff would come today... give me something to do this weekend
22:13.00sjhillsweet
22:13.06sjhillbeer time
22:13.13sjhilltimesys has beer fridays
22:13.16sjhillbbl
22:18.32sjhillmmm Yuengling
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