| 00:17.04 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I agree. OPIE for everybody! |
| 00:17.15 | kergoth | its so huge though |
| 00:17.17 | kergoth | qt/e is large |
| 00:32.53 | mallum | jacques: hey there |
| 00:33.09 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: you ever get pixel running with mb ? |
| 00:35.02 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: no - I was having trouble getting it going, and I got distracted with other stuff |
| 00:38.39 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: okey |
| 00:39.05 | kergoth | mallum: any luck on the X packages? |
| 00:39.28 | mallum | kergoth: yes, there getting there |
| 00:39.37 | kergoth | cool cool |
| 00:39.43 | kergoth | i havent gotten a damn thing done ttoday |
| 00:39.45 | kergoth | longgg day |
| 00:39.48 | mallum | kergoth: doh :( |
| 00:40.36 | kergoth | goal for tonight is to split up my ecore packages, and finish up the qt/e keyboard bits |
| 00:40.38 | mallum | kergoth: I was gonna ask , I need to get /usr/X11R6/lib into /etc/ld.conf and /usr/X11R6/bin into the users PATH |
| 00:40.39 | kergoth | fun fun |
| 00:40.41 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:40.45 | kergoth | mallum: ah, okay |
| 00:41.04 | kergoth | mallum: currently OZ relies _heavily_ on LD_LIBRARY_PATH, so that we dont need to include ldconfig (its like 600k!@%) |
| 00:41.09 | kergoth | mallum: i'll update /etc/profile for now |
| 00:42.27 | mallum | kergoth: cool, ah ok I can export LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the xstart up, I think by defualt things like xterm / rxvt clear it :( |
| 00:43.00 | mallum | kergoth: they can be patched though :-) |
| 00:43.06 | kergoth | they _should_ load a login shell imho |
| 00:43.15 | kergoth | which could load /etc/profile and $HOME/.profile or whatever |
| 00:43.26 | kergoth | which is why i stuff the important vars in profile |
| 00:44.03 | mallum | kergoth: okey I'll look into it. I could be wrong and it may be possible to turn it off with just a switch |
| 00:44.35 | mallum | kergoth: also I noticed the tslib package name is a bit wierd |
| 00:45.04 | mallum | kergoth: rather than just libts0 or libts, it appears to be libts-0.0 |
| 00:45.15 | kergoth | $(SourceTree)/src/.libs/libts-0.0.so.0.1.0 |
| 00:45.20 | kergoth | its cause of the weird ass soname |
| 00:45.34 | kergoth | wasnt sure how to name the package |
| 00:46.19 | mallum | kergoth: its no biggy, just leave it as is |
| 00:47.52 | mallum | kergoth: in theory once these packages are working nice, all the gpe ipkg's from familiar should 'just work' on zaurus too |
| 00:50.56 | kergoth | right |
| 00:51.07 | kergoth | that reminds me, need a 'menu' package for the debian menus stuff. |
| 00:56.18 | mallum | kergoth: yeah though gpe tends towards .desktop files nowadays ( and I think debian will move to that eventually ) |
| 00:57.00 | mallum | kergoth: also matchbox app launchers use dnotify, so no need for menu updating package. that just all happens automatically |
| 00:59.22 | kergoth | i dont like .desktop files myself, makes restructuring and changing categories a pain.. not that i'm a fan of debian's menu system either.. but.. |
| 00:59.25 | kergoth | okay im headin hom |
| 00:59.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:00.16 | mallum | kergoth`bbl: vfolders fix that |
| 01:00.39 | CosmicPenguin | hmm... lets see what 'el presidente has to say, eh? |
| 01:01.42 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: still waiting for the talking heads to shut up |
| 01:06.04 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: whats he talking about ? |
| 01:06.12 | CosmicPenguin | war |
| 01:06.17 | mallum | what war ? |
| 01:06.19 | mallum | ;-) |
| 01:07.28 | mallum | bedtime |
| 01:07.52 | mallum | g'night |
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| 15:10.36 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:11.02 | prpplague | mallum: so you headed to the usenet meeting? |
| 15:11.19 | mallum | prpplague: yeah, Im speaking about matchbox there apparently |
| 15:11.41 | prpplague | mallum: cool |
| 15:11.45 | prpplague | mallum: is that in austin? |
| 15:12.05 | mallum | yeah think so |
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| 15:16.03 | mallum | prpplague: did you do the original OZ tinyx packages ? |
| 15:23.44 | sorphin | prpplague: morning older man *grin* |
| 15:24.11 | sorphin | prpplague: btw.. some time in the next month or 2 i'll be down in TX too |
| 15:25.41 | prpplague | mallum: ahh, ya, no flame or insults please |
| 15:26.20 | prpplague | sorphin: oh? where bouts? |
| 15:27.08 | prpplague | mallum: i've not worked on it a long time due to my wife/hospital thing |
| 15:27.27 | sorphin | prpplague: richardson |
| 15:27.50 | prpplague | sorphin: cool |
| 15:28.00 | sorphin | prpplague: how far from you is it? |
| 15:28.09 | prpplague | sorphin: 2 hours at 70 mph |
| 15:28.13 | sorphin | hrm |
| 15:28.24 | prpplague | sorphin: not that far |
| 15:28.31 | prpplague | sorphin: thats a reasonable distance for down here |
| 15:28.36 | sorphin | yeah |
| 15:28.53 | prpplague | sorphin: its all straigh as an arrow drive on the interstate |
| 15:29.02 | mallum | prpplague: oh no flame, I know what a PITA x is is x-compile / package |
| 15:29.20 | prpplague | sorphin: you can almost set the cruse and go to sleep |
| 15:29.22 | sorphin | prpplague: was gonna suggest meeting up |
| 15:29.35 | prpplague | sorphin: let me know when |
| 15:29.46 | sorphin | prpplague: you'll know as soon as I do |
| 15:30.01 | mallum | prpplague: I've build a package for OZ for 4.3 which should run on zaurus and ipaq , using tslib |
| 15:30.11 | prpplague | mallum: i had plans for alot more work, i.e. touch screen calibration, backlight control, startup scripts |
| 15:30.25 | mallum | prpplague: I was wondering if I could get you to test them on a zaurus |
| 15:30.37 | prpplague | mallum: you don't have a z? |
| 15:31.03 | prpplague | mallum: i don't have as much personal time as i used too, but i can see what i can |
| 15:31.32 | mallum | prpplague: I have a c700 |
| 15:31.36 | sorphin | prpplague: maybe by then you'll have the strip joint open *smirk* |
| 15:31.44 | prpplague | mallum: ahh |
| 15:31.47 | sorphin | mallum: heh |
| 15:31.54 | sorphin | isn't that that new one? |
| 15:32.02 | mallum | sorphin: yeah |
| 15:32.15 | sorphin | mallum: bastard :P |
| 15:32.47 | prpplague | mallum: so was the tslib very difficult to implement for the z? |
| 15:32.50 | sorphin | mallum: how's it do? |
| 15:33.50 | prpplague | http://www.acutetech.com/-prod_9k.html |
| 15:34.02 | prpplague | just got one in this morning |
| 15:34.10 | mallum | prpplague: no, kergoth had done much of that, and the tslib stuff is noe in x 4.3 |
| 15:34.44 | prpplague | mallum: ahh, i've been out of the loop way tooo long |
| 15:34.56 | mallum | prpplague: nice, I have the hp tablet running linux pretty nice |
| 15:34.59 | prpplague | mallum: this who thing is sucking the life out of me |
| 15:35.09 | mallum | prpplague: np |
| 15:35.16 | prpplague | mallum: the hp is curusoe isn't? |
| 15:35.45 | prpplague | mallum: or is it arm? |
| 15:36.43 | mallum | prpplague: yeah 1ghz crusoe |
| 15:40.27 | prpplague | mallum: i still plan on sending you some stuff, but things have been a little craz |
| 15:41.08 | mallum | prpplague: thats ok, I have plent of toys here |
| 15:41.15 | mallum | sorphin: its really nice |
| 15:41.31 | mallum | sorphin: just wish it had a bit more memory |
| 15:46.32 | sorphin | mallum: indeed |
| 15:46.51 | sorphin | mallum: i don't like the specs on hte 5600, i'm glad i have a 5500 over the 5600 |
| 15:50.20 | mallum | sorphin: Im still new to all this zuarus stuff ... what the diff between 5600 & 5500 ? |
| 15:51.47 | sorphin | the cpu for one, the memory and flash arrangement for another |
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| 15:54.44 | prpplague | mallum: basically the 5600 is xscale the 5500 is sa-1110 |
| 15:54.54 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:54.58 | prpplague | mallum: the 5600 is suppose to have a larger battery |
| 15:55.09 | prpplague | mallum: sorry, freudian slip |
| 15:55.33 | prpplague | mallum: i was thinking beer and almost typed lager |
| 15:56.42 | sorphin | prpplague: you beer slut |
| 15:56.50 | chouimat | prpplague: it's friday |
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| 15:58.35 | mallum | prpplague: xpkgs are here -> http://handhelds.org:/~mallum/xpkgs if you get a chance to try |
| 16:01.31 | prpplague | fun fun, this new web pad is gonna be fun |
| 16:02.17 | chouimat | prpplague: really? |
| 16:04.10 | prpplague | chouimat: it looks pretty nice |
| 16:04.30 | prpplague | chouimat: i just don't know what kind of co-operating i will get from the manufacturer |
| 16:04.49 | chouimat | prpplague: don't know I did see it so :) |
| 16:07.51 | prpplague | chouimat: parse error, please re-enter |
| 16:08.03 | chouimat | prpplague: nm |
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| 16:29.49 | kergoth`bbl | mallum: 5600 is basically c700 with a larger battery, the stock 320x240 lcd, and a 5500 formfactor |
| 16:30.03 | chouimat | hey kergoth`bbl |
| 16:30.08 | kergoth`bbl | mallum: slightly different supporting chips used with the xscale, but the flash, memory, cpu etc is identical |
| 16:30.15 | mallum | kergoth`bbl: ah cool |
| 16:30.20 | kergoth | hey chouimat |
| 16:31.55 | mallum | kergoth: you'll find the ipkgs Im getting out of my buildroot hackings at http://handhelds.org:/~mallum/xpkgs btw |
| 16:32.23 | kergoth | spiffy. whenever you're ready, use citool and bk export -tpatch and email it my way |
| 16:32.34 | kergoth | should probably get you bk push access to maintain the X stuff |
| 16:33.17 | mallum | kergoth: ok, when Im ready I'll probably have to pester you about the commands to generate a patch - its gonna be pretty big |
| 16:33.54 | mallum | kergoth: my stupid cf wireless card never arrived today :( which I was kind of depending on for more testing |
| 16:34.00 | kergoth | use bk citool if you're in X |
| 16:34.15 | kergoth | it is an easy frontend to checking in file changes and producing a changeset of those changes |
| 16:34.18 | mallum | kergoth: pb has tested on the ipaq and they just about work there |
| 16:34.19 | prpplague | kergoth: i always have problems with citool |
| 16:34.24 | kergoth | mallum: cool :) |
| 16:34.26 | prpplague | kergoth: i have to go command line |
| 16:34.29 | kergoth | prpplague: i hate it myself |
| 16:34.34 | kergoth | i stick to ci and commit |
| 16:34.44 | kergoth | and some hackish commands to only commit certain changes and not others.. |
| 16:34.50 | kergoth | but i'm a console junkie anyway |
| 16:35.25 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i have two script for ci/co: drink and vomit |
| 16:35.35 | chouimat | prpplague: lol |
| 16:36.39 | kergoth | bk is sweet, it spoils me |
| 16:36.50 | kergoth | its conflict resolution is very good |
| 16:40.37 | CosmicPenguin | Morning peopple |
| 16:41.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 16:41.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: package went out this morning sat delivery |
| 16:41.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: great... you're the man! |
| 16:41.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how was the bday yesterday? |
| 16:41.36 | file | did somebody say package? O.O |
| 16:41.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'll get the tracking later today |
| 16:41.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ssdd |
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| 17:49.44 | sorphin | GPSFan_: morning ken |
| 17:50.23 | GPSFan | hi dan, how's it, friday :) |
| 17:50.30 | sorphin | better than yesterday |
| 17:50.36 | GPSFan | good.. |
| 17:50.56 | GPSFan | happy belated b'day prpplague: |
| 17:52.53 | prpplague | GPSFan: shhhhh, don't want anyone to know i;m getting old |
| 17:54.04 | sjhill | prpplague: are you > 32 |
| 17:54.06 | GPSFan | prpplague: oops, I thought you got better as you got 0lder... |
| 17:55.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: no, just flabbier and more worn out |
| 17:55.20 | prpplague | sjhill: 33 |
| 17:55.46 | sjhill | prpplague: hehe you are old |
| 17:56.02 | prpplague | GPSFan: women stop looking at you as someone cool to hang out with and more of a meal ticket :) |
| 17:56.11 | sjhill | *nod* |
| 17:57.13 | prpplague | sjhill: thats ok though, we can both play that game, i.e. if she wants here meal ticket she has to pretend i;m someone cool to hang out with :) |
| 17:57.24 | sjhill | heh |
| 17:58.08 | GPSFan | prpplague: ah, and they can tell that by the shiny spot up top. ;>) |
| 17:58.20 | prpplague | i've just about decided that i'm gonna take a couple of strippers to next years company christmas party |
| 17:58.26 | kergoth | hah |
| 17:58.59 | sorphin | prpplague: and we all know you're only cool to hang out with because of the hackkit ;) |
| 18:00.36 | prpplague | GPSFan: yep, i need a shirt that says "baldness is really cause by being too good of a lover" |
| 18:01.22 | sjhill | file: no, don't do that....that guy is an idio |
| 18:01.23 | sjhill | t |
| 18:01.33 | file | sjhill: I just... can't... resist |
| 18:01.47 | GPSFan | prpplague: I've heard it said the you lose a hair follicle each time you do it... |
| 18:03.05 | prpplague | GPSFan: do it or do it with a different woman? |
| 18:03.53 | GPSFan | prpplague: still under investigation, need mor research... |
| 18:07.57 | file | Watch out mate! It's bite is intoxicating! |
| 18:08.40 | sjhill | heh |
| 18:14.15 | prpplague | wahoo! looks like i've got some traveling on the horizon....honduras, barbados, aruba, and nassau!!! |
| 18:14.40 | kergoth | bastard |
| 18:15.03 | file | prpplague: NOOOOO! precious coffee!!!!!! |
| 18:16.28 | prpplague | kergoth: ha, speaking of SCO, managment has stated all SCO customers will be mandated to switch to linux by the end september |
| 18:17.11 | prpplague | kergoth: we are terminating our vendor status with SCO effective wed. of next week!!! |
| 18:17.13 | kergoth | prpplague: good riddance |
| 18:19.33 | prpplague | kergoth: ha, the CEO said their were pissed |
| 18:19.44 | prpplague | s/their/they |
| 18:20.56 | prpplague | ha listen to this drivel: |
| 18:20.58 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.30 | sjhill | that is such bull |
| 18:21.32 | sjhill | i hate SCO |
| 18:22.01 | kergoth | ehh |
| 18:22.05 | prpplague | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.06 | kergoth | what absolute bullshit |
| 18:23.03 | prpplague | thats about like MPAA saying that its "highly improbable that a 15-year could break our 10 million dollar encrytion system" |
| 18:29.49 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, but you'll have to pay SCO a per seat licence anyway, according to the latest bs flowing out of Provo, Utah |
| 18:30.16 | CosmicPenguin | WHich is exactly what you were talking about |
| 18:30.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: for what? we aren;t using any of those sco libs under linux |
| 18:30.41 | CosmicPenguin | meh |
| 18:30.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: meh? |
| 18:31.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: meh... its a perfectly cromulant word |
| 18:31.39 | prpplague | hmmm, i see said the blind man |
| 18:32.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: anyway, it seems that they're out to get the world, today IBM, tomorrow the world |
| 18:32.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, evil utah based bastards |
| 18:32.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 18:32.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: What can you say about a company formed by a guy named Ransom Love |
| 18:34.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, can't drink caffine, use tobaco, or drink beer, but its ok to marry multiple woman and sue ppl for rediculious IP claims |
| 18:35.00 | CosmicPenguin | Thats about right |
| 18:35.16 | prpplague | jk, no offense anyone who is LDS |
| 18:36.29 | CosmicPenguin | Thats why I'm so paranoid - I drink heavily, I have one fiance/wife, and I think sofware should be free |
| 18:37.44 | CosmicPenguin | and whats more, I'm drinking cofee right now |
| 18:38.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: where oh where is our pix-il, oh where oh where could it be? |
| 18:43.28 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: i'm pixilating as we speak |
| 18:53.25 | chouimat | prpplague: description of a moron ... er mormon? |
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| 19:20.04 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: actually i meant when can WE mess w/ it |
| 19:25.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ohh... |
| 19:34.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 19:40.51 | CosmicPenguin | Hey, while we're at it, why don't we package 20 MB of crap in there, because I'm too damn lazy to download another package from somewhere else on the web |
| 19:41.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: eh? |
| 19:41.37 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: grr... |
| 19:42.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: splain |
| 19:43.59 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: greg doesn't like the idea of downloading FLTK and Microwindows seperately, so he wants them all in the same tarball as pixil |
| 19:44.25 | kergoth | ehh wtf |
| 19:46.23 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: greg is a moron |
| 19:47.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what? he can't just do a wget? |
| 19:48.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: *shrug* |
| 19:49.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: what ever gets the code released |
| 19:49.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that must mean your butt checks are raw, lol |
| 19:51.17 | sjhill | it just dawns on sjhill that CosmicPenguin works for Censoft |
| 19:51.21 | sjhill | duh |
| 19:51.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: "hey jordan, i'd like for you to work on open source this pixil code, ohh and by the way, you fired!" |
| 19:54.59 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: greg fired you?! |
| 19:55.44 | CosmicPenguin | scanline: yeah, a while ago |
| 19:55.58 | scanline | oh.. guess I wasn't paying attention |
| 19:56.00 | scanline | that sucks! |
| 19:56.11 | Morn | woah! |
| 19:56.15 | Morn | are you serious? |
| 19:56.26 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah |
| 19:56.52 | Morn | I'm sorry Jordan |
| 19:57.14 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: I'm much better off now than I ever was before |
| 19:57.26 | Morn | still sucks to get fired |
| 19:57.43 | CosmicPenguin | Well, actually, I asked him to fire me |
| 19:57.59 | Morn | and the plot thickens |
| 19:58.09 | CosmicPenguin | He RIFed the other engineer, so I told him I would be of much more value to him if he laid me off too |
| 19:58.13 | scanline | better keep stirring it or it will burn |
| 19:58.20 | CosmicPenguin | He was going to keep me on for another month anyway |
| 19:58.34 | CosmicPenguin | only another month, I mean to tsay |
| 19:58.36 | Morn | RIFed? |
| 19:58.46 | CosmicPenguin | Reduction In Force |
| 19:59.18 | Morn | sounds like a fun place to work |
| 19:59.26 | Morn | damn mormon's |
| 19:59.28 | CosmicPenguin | RIFed (verb): To be laid off as a cost saving method. See also "right sized" and "unlocking the shareholders value" |
| 19:59.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: RIF=OWTWAL |
| 19:59.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: Over Work Those Who Are Left |
| 20:01.24 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 20:01.51 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: anyway, despite the consistant lack of a paycheck, I'm having a blast getting my new consulting company up and running |
| 20:02.16 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: good luck with it |
| 20:02.21 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: thanks |
| 20:02.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: plus he's getting burried |
| 20:02.39 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: that hasn't stopped me from finishing up Pixil though |
| 20:02.44 | prpplague | i mean married |
| 20:03.03 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: you know I'm waiting ever so much for it :-) |
| 20:03.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague - the last romantic man |
| 20:03.19 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: so is everybody - I can't want to see what real programmers can do to this code |
| 20:03.20 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: My roommate used to live in SLC |
| 20:07.20 | prpplague | wahoo word is ppl are dropping their SCO contracts like crazy |
| 20:07.29 | kergoth | woot |
| 20:07.39 | prpplague | all four of our main vendors have dropped their SCO accounts |
| 20:07.56 | Morn | because of the IBM lawsuit? |
| 20:10.12 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:10.38 | CosmicPenguin | Sucks for anyone who depends on SCO for business |
| 20:11.17 | prpplague | Morn: ya |
| 20:11.50 | prpplague | we've already had two SCO ppl call about why we are dropping them, i'm hope'n one gets transfered to my office |
| 20:12.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I would take that call |
| 20:13.18 | Morn | I haven't really been following all that |
| 20:13.21 | Morn | I should read what the deal is |
| 20:21.04 | prpplague | Morn: http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/03/07/1728239 |
| 20:27.19 | prpplague | nice little discusion on /. about whether all of the "canopy group" should be boycotted |
| 20:27.28 | prpplague | that includes trolltech and ebiz |
| 20:29.31 | prpplague | you ebiz, those jerks that ran linuxmall into the ground |
| 20:29.59 | Morn | I can't believe this |
| 20:30.02 | Morn | this is just plain sad |
| 20:30.10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: difficult to be angry at Linux Networx though |
| 20:30.11 | kergoth | indeed it is |
| 20:30.44 | CosmicPenguin | The attitude in #utah is considerably different than the one in here |
| 20:30.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ohh? |
| 20:31.03 | Morn | I'm a Caldera Partner, I think I'll terminate that agreement |
| 20:31.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this irc server? |
| 20:31.34 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 20:32.04 | CosmicPenguin | One guy works for Caldera, and another guy works for Linux Networx |
| 20:32.33 | prpplague | think i'll listen in |
| 20:32.59 | CosmicPenguin | Its a bit quiet now |
| 20:33.08 | prpplague | Morn: i've already canceled all my stuff |
| 20:33.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what they think it good? |
| 20:35.39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its just hard for somebody who works for Caldera to bad mouth Caldera, know what I mean |
| 20:35.50 | prpplague | no |
| 20:35.52 | CosmicPenguin | They think that generally, IBM is evil and they are getting what they deserved |
| 20:36.00 | Morn | prpplague: I don't actually see a link in the Partner Lounge to do that |
| 20:36.16 | prpplague | if i was working for caldera i would have quit this morning |
| 20:36.21 | CosmicPenguin | But then again, most of the technology companies in SLC and Provo are associated with the canopy group |
| 20:36.36 | prpplague | Morn: i called and chew some as on their customer support line |
| 20:36.51 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: any blow back and Century this morning due to SCO? |
| 20:38.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was under the m$ thumb for years, i'll never work for a company that compromises my Opensource pricinples. period. end of story |
| 20:40.14 | prpplague | i'd rather pick up aluminum cans on the side of the road than work for a company that does stuff like SCO |
| 20:49.11 | prpplague | argh, this piss's me off something fierce |
| 20:58.13 | prpplague | is the phrase "persona non grada" spelled correctly? |
| 20:58.39 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: not really, an email or two |
| 20:58.48 | signal11 | prpplague: it's non grata |
| 20:59.03 | signal11 | and it is "pisses me off" |
| 20:59.06 | signal11 | he |
| 20:59.08 | signal11 | h |
| 20:59.43 | prpplague | signal11: ya ya, i never could spell |
| 21:00.12 | prpplague | signal11: besides, i'm a southern boy, i write like i talk, gottaproblemwiththat? |
| 21:00.47 | signal11 | heh nope. you have a long way to go to catch up with dubya anyway |
| 21:01.34 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:20.32 | prpplague | ok how does this some: |
| 21:20.40 | prpplague | Due to SCO/Caldera's expected lawsuit towards IBM over Unix/Linux |
| 21:20.40 | prpplague | patent infringements that have been filed, I regret to inform you that we will be migrating our clients off OpenServer, Unixware and any other |
| 21:20.40 | prpplague | SCO's intellectual property sofware they may be using in disagreements |
| 21:20.40 | prpplague | with your decision. |
| 21:20.59 | prpplague | Our company was in the process of evaluating a move from RedHat to Caldera's OpenLinux/UnitedLinux distribution, however as Research and Development Manager I have canceled any and all SCO/Caldera work. Consider all SCO/Caldera prooducts "persona non-grata" in our business. |
| 21:22.03 | CosmicPenguin | holy macaroni |
| 21:22.05 | prpplague | 10 years ago I was faithfully selling Dr-Dos on systems, and when OpenLinux first became available i _purchased_ copies of every addition to support Caldera's venture into Linux. Personally, I find what SCO/Calders doing totally repulsive. Professionally, I see it as the last resort of a company who is about to go under. I can not in good concencience recommend that my company use or work with any of your products. |
| 21:22.28 | prpplague | oops that should be edition |
| 21:22.42 | andersee | prpplague: do you realize that SCO (formerly caldera Systems) had nothing to do with DR-DOS? |
| 21:22.45 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: spell concenciensce |
| 21:22.46 | | possible spellings for concenciensce: convenience conveniences consciences conscience Concepcion's conscience's convenience's coincidence |
| 21:22.56 | prpplague | andersee: i do but thats who i purchased it from then |
| 21:23.14 | prpplague | andersee: formally Novell Dos |
| 21:23.20 | andersee | prpplague: read up http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2003-03-07-011-26-OS-LL-0013 |
| 21:25.10 | prpplague | andersee: agreed, i already new that history, however i used it as a point that i've purchased Calera products over the years |
| 21:25.20 | prpplague | andersee: did it not come across like that? |
| 21:27.43 | andersee | prpplague: I used DR-DOS back when dos 3.3 was current |
| 21:27.58 | andersee | prpplague: But I don't think I ever bought anything from caldera |
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| 21:28.39 | andersee | prpplague: I did make a few thousand flipping shares on their IPO... |
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| 21:29.02 | CosmicPenguin | Speaking of canopy group... :) |
| 21:29.12 | prpplague | andersee: lol ya well, i always sold legal copies, and i was part of the original complaint about the 3.1 and 3.11 bogus code |
| 21:29.43 | prpplague | andersee: winblows 3.1 and 3.11 that is |
| 21:31.18 | prpplague | does that sound like a good email to send to all of SCO reps? |
| 21:38.48 | prpplague | i'm out of here for today |
| 21:39.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: email me if you don't get that package tomorrow |
| 21:39.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I will |
| 21:39.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thanks a ton |
| 21:39.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'll send you the tracking number when i get to the house this evening |
| 21:39.24 | prpplague | later |
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| 23:55.38 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo... Pixil now uses the kernel config system |
| 23:56.18 | kergoth | linuxkernelconf rocks |