| 00:02.42 | sorphin | prpplague: heh |
| 00:04.10 | prpplague | sorphin: the mosquitos are at the office |
| 00:04.41 | file | around the shipping lady? |
| 00:05.09 | sorphin | prpplague: wrong office |
| 00:05.11 | sorphin | erm |
| 00:05.17 | sorphin | file: wrong office |
| 00:05.25 | file | too many offices |
| 00:05.29 | sorphin | file: she's not in nassau ;) |
| 00:05.37 | file | uh huh |
| 00:05.50 | file | prpplague: and how was your flight? |
| 00:06.05 | sorphin | file: she's actually on the way to *your* house :P |
| 00:06.15 | file | nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 00:06.52 | sorphin | apparently she likes young canadian boys ;p |
| 00:08.07 | prpplague | lol |
| 00:08.28 | prpplague | i've been working on getting this server up since 5am est |
| 00:08.44 | prpplague | got another hour our two |
| 00:09.30 | prpplague | the end-of-day procedures should be finish on the old server by 9:30-10:00 transfer the data over and wait for the fun in the morning |
| 00:18.55 | prpplague | argh, i'm starting to get sleepy |
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| 00:32.00 | prpplague | ibot: seen andersee |
| 00:32.01 | | andersee <~andersen@codepoet.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 4h 19m 1s ago, saying: 'sortof'. |
| 00:36.25 | prpplague | ibot: seen sorphin's-ass? |
| 00:36.25 | | prpplague: i haven't seen 'sorphin's-ass' |
| 00:36.31 | kergoth`bbl | ibot: seen mallum |
| 00:36.31 | | mallum <~mallum@pc-80-193-218-21-hw.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 2h 22m 34s ago, saying: '<Ng> and the gtk2 version of gpe is pretty damn nice. matchbox is better in a load of ways and so on :)'. |
| 00:37.32 | prpplague | man i'm ready to get out of here |
| 01:00.23 | kergoth`bbl | got a reply from sharp japan re: the ati imageon specs, they're asking ati if they can give them to me, since they got them under NDA from ati themselves |
| 01:15.14 | MonMotha | jeesh...I really need to rewrite some of these things...I'm dragging in libm so that these apps can display numbers in user-friendly formats |
| 01:16.44 | MonMotha | jeesh...glibc is huge |
| 01:16.50 | MonMotha | I knew I should have used uClibc |
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| 01:27.15 | chouimat | hi |
| 01:31.37 | file | chouimat: hi |
| 01:37.56 | chouimat | hi file |
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| 01:54.14 | file[ZzZ] | what the frell is going on here? |
| 01:55.22 | prpplague | w00t, almost done |
| 01:55.37 | prpplague | file[ZzZ]: go frell yourself, lol |
| 01:55.55 | file[ZzZ] | lol |
| 01:56.20 | file[ZzZ] | prpplague: 1812, light it up! |
| 01:56.32 | prpplague | lol |
| 01:56.52 | file[ZzZ] | prpplague: why did Chricton get that DRD anyway? |
| 01:56.59 | chouimat | prpplague: hi |
| 01:57.07 | file[ZzZ] | I know it was from another Leviathan that was dieing, but I didn't know why he took it |
| 01:57.09 | prpplague | file[ZzZ]: lol, because the laviathon it was on died |
| 01:57.20 | file[ZzZ] | prpplague: it just tagged along? |
| 01:57.31 | prpplague | file[ZzZ]: i was the only working dvd that was left, and he kinda adopted it |
| 01:57.41 | file[ZzZ] | prpplague: neat |
| 01:57.56 | prpplague | file[ZzZ]: that show, so rocked |
| 01:58.09 | chouimat | guys Chricton sex live with a drd is something I don't want to know |
| 01:58.10 | prpplague | file[ZzZ]: i missed the show finally |
| 01:58.18 | file[ZzZ] | prpplague: I concur, I remember many years ago when I saw the first season, then they took it off the air for a bit here |
| 01:58.28 | prpplague | file[ZzZ]: so i don't even know how it ended |
| 01:58.34 | file[ZzZ] | prpplague: it hasn't come on here yet - just got into the last season |
| 01:58.43 | prpplague | chouimat: lol |
| 01:58.50 | prpplague | chouimat: where did you get that? |
| 01:59.09 | chouimat | file[ZzZ]: they beging to show it last year here ... so in september I will see season 3 |
| 01:59.30 | file[ZzZ] | it's sad to see it go |
| 01:59.30 | prpplague | i've been buying the stuff on dvd |
| 01:59.34 | chouimat | prpplague: come one a lonely guy lost in an alien part of the universe :) |
| 01:59.47 | file[ZzZ] | first Star Trek Voyager, and now Farscape |
| 02:00.02 | prpplague | chouimat: hell when he's got airan? |
| 02:00.24 | file[ZzZ] | speaking of Voyager, it's on now... not an episode I want to watch however |
| 02:00.27 | chouimat | file[ZzZ]: I have the last seasons of Voyager on vhs ... look on kazaa you can find everything |
| 02:00.36 | file[ZzZ] | chouimat: Yeah but I like new episodes |
| 02:00.44 | file[ZzZ] | or liked rather |
| 02:00.57 | file[ZzZ] | Shattered was my favorite... |
| 02:01.06 | chouimat | file[ZzZ]: I enjoyed the 7of9 holodeck fantasy episode :) |
| 02:01.11 | prpplague | two more db's to reorg and its kalik time :) |
| 02:01.19 | file[ZzZ] | chouimat: hehe |
| 02:01.32 | prpplague | chouimat: is that the one where she wears the red dress for the holo chichote? |
| 02:01.40 | file[ZzZ] | The Search For Spock is on right now... |
| 02:01.51 | chouimat | prpplague: the one with now borg implant |
| 02:01.59 | chouimat | now=no |
| 02:02.10 | chouimat | hmmmmmm I'm out of beer |
| 02:02.17 | file[ZzZ] | your always out of beer |
| 02:02.54 | sorphin | file: if you're file[ZzZ], shouldn't you go ZzZ? :P |
| 02:02.57 | chouimat | file[ZzZ]: beer is something you're always out when you ditch your wife |
| 02:02.58 | prpplague | chouimat: hmm, ya thats the one |
| 02:03.22 | file[ZzZ] | sorphin: no, and it's a wonder your tongue hasn't dried out since you stick it out every second sentence |
| 02:03.38 | chouimat | prpplague: I think I will watch later ... and btw I have some Teacher's pet on vcd |
| 02:03.46 | prpplague | ahh |
| 02:04.03 | prpplague | 1 more, yeh! |
| 02:04.03 | chouimat | very good hentai:) |
| 02:04.18 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:04.19 | chouimat | hey sorphin |
| 02:04.21 | file[ZzZ] | mmm I'm going... to watch TV and then sleep |
| 02:04.26 | sorphin | chouimat: allo mat |
| 02:04.42 | file[ZzZ] | Goodnight all you Frellers! |
| 02:04.43 | chouimat | sorphin: still playing with the jtag cable? |
| 02:04.49 | file[ZzZ] | hrmph, sounds like a donut |
| 02:04.56 | kergoth | hey guys |
| 02:05.04 | file[ZzZ] | kergoth: hi, bye |
| 02:05.07 | chouimat | file[ZzZ]: remember when you have a fantasm ... masturbation had a better taste |
| 02:05.08 | prpplague | in about 30 minutes i'll be drinking a kalik and eating some conch fritters :) |
| 02:05.13 | kergoth | heh, night josh |
| 02:05.26 | chouimat | prpplague: nassau? |
| 02:05.49 | prpplague | chouimat: ya |
| 02:05.59 | chouimat | prpplague: how the weather? |
| 02:05.59 | sorphin | chouimat: i'm not gonna ask about what you just said |
| 02:06.02 | sorphin | and no, i'm not atm |
| 02:06.03 | prpplague | chouimat: midly |
| 02:06.13 | chouimat | weatherbot: weather cyqb |
| 02:06.14 | prpplague | chouimat: doh, mild |
| 02:06.15 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Quebec, Que, Canada: It is -1 C (30 F), windspeed is 8.05 km/h, and visibility is 24.14 km. (Information current as of 2003.04.09 0100 UTC). |
| 02:06.27 | prpplague | frell |
| 02:06.29 | prpplague | thats cold |
| 02:06.41 | chouimat | sorphin: only something on the local university walls :) |
| 02:06.57 | chouimat | prpplague: not really ... -43C is cold :) |
| 02:07.31 | prpplague | chouimat: we have maybe one or two days a year at -1c |
| 02:08.04 | chouimat | prpplague: -1C is spring or fall temp :) |
| 02:09.26 | chouimat | ok ... bb in 10 minutes I really need more beers and the store close in 49 minutes |
| 02:10.34 | sorphin | chouimat: go fast |
| 02:10.38 | sorphin | like the wind |
| 02:11.46 | chouimat | sorphin: shaddap |
| 02:15.00 | sorphin | chouimat: ok, liek a snail, it's your beer :P |
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| 02:23.38 | chouimat | sorphin: back |
| 02:23.48 | ljp | fudge |
| 02:23.55 | sorphin | chouimat: you must live right by the store |
| 02:24.14 | sorphin | ljp: ? |
| 02:24.17 | chouimat | about 2 minutes |
| 02:24.38 | ljp | oh, I was hoping riker was in here |
| 02:24.56 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:25.04 | sorphin | nah he disappeared a lil while ago, might be back tho |
| 02:28.59 | chouimat | sorphin: and I think I will go buy some others beers tomorrow night ;-P |
| 02:29.59 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:30.03 | ljp | yay! beers on chouimat! |
| 02:31.21 | chouimat | ljp: came here this summer and we will go on some "terasse" |
| 02:33.32 | ljp | I really want to be able to flash a zaurus from ext2 |
| 02:40.41 | sorphin | ljp: i was working on something to flash from userland |
| 02:40.45 | sorphin | when i bricked my Z |
| 02:41.04 | ljp | hmm bummer |
| 02:41.20 | sorphin | yeah |
| 02:41.39 | sorphin | ljp: having to sort out a jflash to recover it, fun stuff.. heh |
| 02:41.47 | prpplague | later folks |
| 02:41.53 | sorphin | prpplague: cya |
| 02:41.56 | prpplague | new server is up and running for the morning |
| 02:42.01 | chouimat | prpplague: enjoy the beach |
| 02:42.02 | prpplague | night |
| 02:51.18 | chouimat | ok that was not bad ... |
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| 05:13.17 | TomW | yawn |
| 05:19.52 | chouimat | hi TomW |
| 05:20.00 | TomW | hello |
| 05:20.32 | TomW | doing the layout on my ARM board. |
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| 05:21.22 | chouimat | TomW: ok |
| 05:22.06 | TomW | and looking over the EDB7212 eval board and the rmk stuff to see if the EVB has been implemented yet. |
| 05:22.50 | chouimat | TomW: I'm trying to get my uncle Philips Trimedia eval board |
| 05:25.32 | chouimat | TomW: beside that any new? |
| 05:26.56 | TomW | no, just trying to get that board routed so I can send off for a PCB to be made. I'll have to chase down some suppliers and see where my samples are. |
| 05:29.34 | chouimat | TomW: and that take more of your time than the design itself |
| 05:34.43 | TomW | chouimat: well, I do both at the same time. I add a functional section to the schematic, say wire up the boot EPROM, then I goto the layout and add the traces to hook it up. I don't do the schematic first then do the PCB later. |
| 05:35.11 | TomW | gives me time to think over the design. |
| 05:35.37 | TomW | and how the electronics are wired vs. how that affects the board layout. |
| 05:36.31 | TomW | sometimes, I will rewire something backwards just to make the PCB layout easier. For example, I will sometimes reverse data pins on a RAM so that I can easily connect them in the PCB. |
| 05:38.50 | chouimat | TomW: I'm just a software guy ... I didn't know how a pass my basic EE course ... I think I will go back to school this fall |
| 05:39.53 | TomW | chouimat: well, I am self-taught, I never went to college. |
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| 05:45.30 | chouimat | TomW: I only have a B Sc. A in Computer Science and the EE courses I had sucked so ... |
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| 05:58.00 | chouimat | night\ |
| 06:58.49 | sorphin | TimRiker: ljp was looking for you |
| 07:26.31 | TimRiker | yep, got an email from him. I checked on on #zaurus but he left an hour before. thanx. |
| 07:34.53 | sorphin | np |
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| 11:10.20 | prpplague | morning all |
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| 14:07.30 | sieve | morning all |
| 14:23.22 | prpplague | sieve: good frellin morning |
| 14:24.03 | prpplague | sieve: greg is driving me nuts, he's messaging me every 5 minutes to call him and give him a status |
| 14:25.40 | prpplague | sieve: dual pIII 800, 50 users, .37 load |
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| 14:30.39 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 14:31.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lo |
| 14:31.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats cookin? |
| 14:32.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you shot yourself in the wallet and then the head yet? |
| 14:32.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i.e. get married |
| 14:33.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not yet |
| 14:33.33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: may 20 |
| 14:33.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: shall i send black roses? |
| 14:36.42 | sorphin | prpplague: don't you mean a sympathy card? |
| 14:42.15 | prpplague | sorphin: or a jar for his gonads, lol |
| 14:42.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you sound like my mother |
| 14:42.39 | sorphin | prpplague: she prolly already chopped them off, if they've had sex yet :P |
| 14:42.48 | prpplague | lol |
| 14:42.48 | sorphin | prpplague: that's usually step 1 |
| 14:43.09 | CosmicPenguin | I came back to this abuse? |
| 14:43.14 | CosmicPenguin | From Vegas? |
| 14:43.20 | prpplague | "honey, i going out with the guys tonight.... can i have them for a little while? all the other guys will have theirs......." |
| 14:43.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hey, we had to welcome you back properly ;) |
| 14:43.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 14:44.54 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:44.58 | kergoth | i got to work *early* today |
| 14:44.59 | kergoth | fucking weird. |
| 14:45.00 | sorphin | kergoth: morning chris |
| 14:45.07 | sorphin | kergoth: heh, loser |
| 14:45.51 | sorphin | kergoth: i found out more annoyance last night.. they have pin 13 tied to gnd in atleast 3 places in teh cradle.. grr :P |
| 14:46.54 | kergoth | hah |
| 14:47.37 | prpplague | kergoth: early, i've been working since 5am est, lol |
| 14:47.55 | kergoth | fun fun |
| 14:49.37 | sorphin | kergoth: here i hoped it was only gonna be those 0 ohm resistors on the bottom board, so i check hte top board.. there's solid traces tying 8 and 13, so i'd basically have to un gnd 8.. stupid sharp |
| 14:49.53 | sorphin | now i wait for tomw to wake up, cuz i'm looking at oscopes |
| 14:50.26 | prpplague | kergoth: i'd like to say its been extremely smooth switch over, but that probably would jinx it |
| 14:50.55 | sorphin | prpplague: you just jinxed it ;p |
| 15:09.57 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:09.59 | sorphin | "$20 handling fee plus shipping." |
| 15:10.10 | sorphin | least the loser's honest about that he's ripping you off |
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| 15:46.29 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:46.46 | kergoth | bleh |
| 15:55.57 | chouimat | bah |
| 15:56.24 | CosmicPenguin | grrr |
| 15:57.22 | sorphin | argh |
| 15:58.13 | CosmicPenguin | linux-2.4.18-rmk3-hh24 is too old for uclibc, but too new for my regular arm toolchain |
| 15:58.40 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:59.04 | chouimat | ouch |
| 16:19.55 | CosmicPenguin | screw it - handhelds.org is determined not to let anyone build the kernels without their explicit say so |
| 16:20.14 | sorphin | umm |
| 16:20.17 | sorphin | that's lame |
| 16:20.17 | kergoth | eh |
| 16:20.23 | sorphin | kergoth: go beat em up |
| 16:20.28 | kergoth | uhm |
| 16:20.32 | kergoth | treke builds handhleds.org kernels daily |
| 16:20.33 | kergoth | for OE |
| 16:20.36 | kergoth | using our toolchain |
| 16:20.40 | kergoth | with no problems whatsoever |
| 16:21.12 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ |
| 16:21.26 | kergoth | grab the most recent 2.95.3 |
| 16:21.41 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: OE builds for Ipaq? |
| 16:21.48 | kergoth | yes |
| 16:21.52 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: and more importantly, doesn't think it knows better than me what applications I want to install? |
| 16:21.56 | kergoth | ipaq, webpal, tuxscreen, ads dev boards, ramses, zaurus |
| 16:22.05 | kergoth | atm |
| 16:22.18 | kergoth | course no one ever bothered to test the tuxscreen kernel build by our buildroot |
| 16:22.31 | sorphin | kergoth: and eventually the hackkit? ;) |
| 16:22.39 | kergoth | of course |
| 16:22.51 | chouimat | sh4 soon if I can repair that dreamcast |
| 16:23.09 | sorphin | chouimat: my dreamcast works and runs linux already ;) |
| 16:23.52 | chouimat | sorphin: so add that to OE |
| 16:24.12 | kergoth | basically all you need to do is add its kernel build |
| 16:24.12 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:24.19 | kergoth | and some slight deployment alterations |
| 16:24.22 | kergoth | i.e. image creation |
| 16:24.26 | signal11_ | sorphin: i need to get dreamcast linux going; is there a good site on how to do that? |
| 16:24.34 | chouimat | kergoth: mkisofs |
| 16:24.40 | kergoth | yep |
| 16:25.15 | chouimat | signal11_: I have some sites bookmarker but on another box currently down |
| 16:25.22 | sorphin | signal11_: i think i grabed the crap i use from scanline or somesuch, there was at one point a dc linux site tho |
| 16:26.55 | signal11_ | do you just need to burn a boot cd? |
| 16:27.11 | signal11_ | i think the last time i tried it, the cd required XA1 mode and my drive didn't support it |
| 16:27.16 | signal11_ | or something weird like that |
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| 16:27.59 | sorphin | hmm |
| 16:28.08 | sorphin | it's been a while, i can look when i get home |
| 16:32.36 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and pixil? |
| 16:34.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: all I want to do is build a Ipaq image from scratch - is that such a tough concept? |
| 16:35.15 | sorphin | shouldn't be |
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| 16:35.44 | sorphin | ~bitchslap sjhill |
| 16:35.46 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill |
| 16:35.46 | prpplague | sjhill: ho ho ho |
| 16:36.04 | sjhill | hey guys |
| 16:36.40 | sorphin | sjhill: well well, if it isn't 1-900-mips-boy |
| 16:37.41 | sjhill | sorphin: and boy have i been getting a lot of calls |
| 16:38.00 | prpplague | sjhill: lol |
| 16:38.04 | sorphin | sjhill: i bet.. but then, you are the mips whore |
| 16:38.08 | prpplague | sjhill: over what processor? |
| 16:38.19 | sjhill | tx4927 and au1500 |
| 16:38.26 | sorphin | never heard of either |
| 16:38.32 | sjhill | consider yourself blessed |
| 16:38.40 | sorphin | what uses them? |
| 16:39.01 | prpplague | sjhill: i've heard of them both, but i can't remember, does those have mmu's? |
| 16:39.31 | sjhill | au1500 is a MIPS32(tm) core and tx4927 is a 64-bit tx49/h2 core |
| 16:39.37 | sjhill | both have mmu's |
| 16:39.50 | sjhill | au1500 @ 400mhz , tx4927 @ 200mhz |
| 16:40.00 | sorphin | ok, mips32 i've heard of.. still can't place that tx tho |
| 16:40.07 | sjhill | both have embedded pci 2.2 controllers |
| 16:40.17 | sjhill | and both of them suck! |
| 16:40.21 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:40.26 | sjhill | you can only do 32-bit pci read/writes |
| 16:40.35 | sjhill | so, shift, mask .... blah blah blah |
| 16:40.49 | sorphin | sjhill: come over from the dark side ;) |
| 16:40.49 | prpplague | sjhill: fun |
| 16:41.48 | sorphin | sjhill: if you get bored at timesys, tim's hiring ;) |
| 16:42.03 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya, he just moved |
| 16:42.24 | prpplague | sorphin: and besides, i'm sending in a resume on that one |
| 16:42.25 | prpplague | :) |
| 16:42.30 | sorphin | prpplague: haha |
| 16:42.49 | sorphin | prpplague: don't wanna be abcsinc's hw masterbator^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hmanager? |
| 16:43.09 | prpplague | sorphin: they haven't offered it to me yet |
| 16:43.29 | sorphin | prpplague: besides you said you're a wannabe, and tim wants gurus ;) |
| 16:43.33 | prpplague | sorphin: but i'd like to see i fair against the competion for this job at TI |
| 16:43.44 | prpplague | sorphin: agreed |
| 16:43.44 | sorphin | ah |
| 16:44.25 | sjhill | TI's hiring? |
| 16:44.36 | sorphin | prpplague: i'd apply except i don't wanna move to TX, and i'm still quite 'new' to embedded |
| 16:44.39 | sorphin | sjhill: yup |
| 16:44.51 | prpplague | sjhill: just 1 or 2 ppl for an omap dev project |
| 16:45.00 | sorphin | you'd be working w/ timmy |
| 16:45.45 | sjhill | i ain't moving again...so if it's not telecommute...forget it |
| 16:46.03 | prpplague | sjhill: lol |
| 16:47.12 | sorphin | sjhill: wussy |
| 16:47.39 | sorphin | sjhill: that's one thing tim said he was gonna eventually try and talk them into allowing, telecommute, if they did that, i'd be interested |
| 16:48.50 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: what was that toolchain lilnk again? |
| 16:49.05 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/ |
| 16:49.40 | kergoth | note that the most recent 2.95.3 and 3.x toolchains there require glibc 2.3.x on the desktop. the previous ones do not |
| 16:49.43 | kergoth | see the readme for details |
| 16:49.44 | prpplague | kergoth: is it still the one from the erikm? |
| 16:49.55 | prpplague | kergoth: or a new one? |
| 16:51.27 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: so 2.95.3-oz-1.2 requires 2.3.x on the desktop? |
| 16:51.35 | sorphin | kergoth: what's the one tunnel shite you said you use? |
| 16:58.04 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 16:58.09 | CosmicPenguin | shit |
| 16:58.13 | kergoth | prpplague: its the erikm toolchain with updated binutils |
| 16:58.24 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: ahow about oz-1.1? |
| 16:58.27 | CosmicPenguin | same idea |
| 16:58.27 | kergoth | the 3.x toolchain is all bleeding edge from debian's unstable pool |
| 16:58.43 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: grab teh stock erikm toolchain for safety. cross-2.95.tar.bz2 |
| 16:58.52 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: k |
| 16:59.03 | kergoth | its solid, builds everything, never had a problem with it |
| 17:00.02 | CosmicPenguin | grrr |
| 17:00.31 | kergoth | put it in /usr/local/arm |
| 17:04.11 | prpplague | kergoth: erikm did a hell of a nice job didn't he? |
| 17:04.18 | kergoth | prpplague: yup |
| 17:04.33 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:04.56 | kergoth | tunnel shite, elaborate |
| 17:04.57 | kergoth | vtun? |
| 17:05.48 | chouimat | back |
| 17:06.18 | prpplague | front |
| 17:06.32 | sjhill | left |
| 17:07.53 | chouimat | I think I need some extra sleep hours |
| 17:10.43 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe ... |
| 17:12.25 | chouimat| | mmmmm that chunky soup is very good |
| 17:16.49 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 17:17.11 | CosmicPenguin | Why the hell is this compiler using sys-include/net/route.h instead of the good ol' regular route.h? |
| 17:17.27 | kergoth | eh? |
| 17:19.46 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.46 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.08 | sorphin | kergoth: whatever tunnel sw it was that you were using that you liked |
| 17:21.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i've run into some nightmare includes like that before |
| 17:22.27 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: that has nothing to do with the compiler. linux_if.c is including net/route.h |
| 17:24.53 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: sys-include/net/route.h is very different than include/net/route.h |
| 17:30.02 | sorphin | i've ran into includ probs like that even when not xcompiling.. things include the wrong route.h or if.h or such.. |
| 17:30.49 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah |
| 17:31.06 | kergoth | oh, its grabbing the in kernel net/route.h rather than the glibc net/route.h? |
| 17:32.14 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 17:33.29 | kergoth | does the glibc net/route.h exist in that toolchain? |
| 17:33.40 | kergoth | or is the prob that its putting sys-include ahead of it in the include path? |
| 17:33.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:34.11 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: it does exist |
| 17:34.12 | chouimat| | ok I'm going out later guy |
| 17:34.27 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: this isn't just restricted to your issue - other arm toolchains have it too |
| 17:35.10 | kergoth | I know |
| 17:35.27 | kergoth | just because a problem isnt _my_ problem doesnt mean i wont try to fix it |
| 17:35.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:36.01 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I was never even blaming you |
| 17:36.11 | kergoth | .. |
| 17:36.16 | kergoth | did i claim otherwise? |
| 17:36.21 | CosmicPenguin | sort of |
| 17:36.22 | CosmicPenguin | but its ok |
| 17:36.39 | CosmicPenguin | like I said, I'm not very happy right now |
| 17:39.27 | prpplague | ~guinness CosmicPenguin |
| 17:39.28 | | ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to CosmicPenguin |
| 17:39.28 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: you're not happy? i just discovered i was looking at the wrong IRQ handler for this board! |
| 17:39.37 | prpplague | sjhill: doh |
| 17:39.43 | kergoth | sjhill: ouch |
| 17:39.47 | sjhill | ~ibot bitchslap sjhill |
| 17:39.48 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill |
| 17:41.13 | prpplague | sjhill: i'm kinda excited about playing with that symbol unit running a vr4181 |
| 17:41.29 | prpplague | sjhill: a non arm platform for a change |
| 17:42.23 | sorphin | prpplague: still a piece of POS gear tho, you POS junkie ;) |
| 17:42.54 | prpplague | sorphin: i know, i'm a sucker for barcode scanners |
| 17:43.18 | prpplague | sorphin: maybe ti won't hold that against me :) |
| 17:43.22 | sorphin | prpplague: i have about 4-5 cuecats of varying versions, there's one always hooked up to giga tho that decodes plaintext |
| 17:43.52 | sorphin | it shares the keyboard connection w/ the magstripe reader now *grin* |
| 17:44.05 | sorphin | prpplague: i almost feel like you, but w/ more hair (well, mostly) |
| 17:44.26 | prpplague | lol |
| 17:44.42 | prpplague | sorphin: at least my lack of hair is by choice! |
| 17:44.55 | sorphin | prpplague: didn't look it |
| 17:45.03 | prpplague | lol |
| 17:45.33 | sorphin | prpplague: next time, step 2 inches closer to the razor ;) |
| 17:48.23 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:49.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:49.28 | kergoth | or, you could use OE buildroot, which already support ipaq and works quite well |
| 17:49.36 | kergoth | rather than reinventing square wheels |
| 17:49.38 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I couldn't even get the oe-test to run |
| 17:49.44 | kergoth | nononon |
| 17:49.48 | kergoth | thats the new infrastructure |
| 17:49.49 | CosmicPenguin | syntax error all over the place |
| 17:49.51 | kergoth | its not ready for active use |
| 17:50.00 | kergoth | openzaurus.bkbits.net |
| 17:50.03 | CosmicPenguin | cvs co buildroot-tux; make |
| 17:50.07 | CosmicPenguin | if its not that easy, its crap |
| 17:50.19 | kergoth | lets see, blame the tools |
| 17:50.24 | CosmicPenguin | always |
| 17:50.29 | kergoth | or .. we could blame the users who are incapable of using them |
| 17:50.36 | CosmicPenguin | whatever |
| 17:50.43 | kergoth | maybe |
| 17:50.51 | kergoth | you could try readin ghte documentation |
| 17:50.52 | sorphin | now now girls :P |
| 17:50.54 | kergoth | openzaurus.org |
| 17:50.55 | kergoth | FAQ |
| 17:50.56 | kergoth | 'source' |
| 17:50.57 | kergoth | submit |
| 17:50.58 | kergoth | ta da |
| 17:51.03 | kergoth | tough, wasnt it? |
| 17:51.23 | CosmicPenguin | The funny thing is, its easier for me to write a buildroot from scratch than to figure out how OZ works |
| 17:51.28 | CosmicPenguin | isn't that funny? |
| 17:52.08 | kergoth | Indeed, your inability to comprehend the system despite large amounts of documentation says much about you. |
| 17:53.09 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - I hear that alot |
| 17:54.24 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: don't even get me started |
| 17:54.49 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: people always tell me - why bother writing a new graphics engine - QT works just fine |
| 17:56.24 | kergoth | sorphin: tell me, is 'make menuconfig; make' a difficult set of build steps? I always thought it was pretty striaghtforward |
| 17:56.56 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yo, chill out buddy |
| 17:56.57 | sorphin | kergoth: as long as the files that get used are correct (i.e. my previous bison fight) |
| 17:57.03 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I've never even downloaded OZ before |
| 17:57.07 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I thought you were talking about OE |
| 17:57.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: if you ever grab the Oz source.. you'll need bitscraper :P |
| 17:57.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: got it, reluctently |
| 17:57.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ditto |
| 17:58.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: what's w/ this pixil from 2k1 on censoft? |
| 17:58.23 | sorphin | old concept ? |
| 17:58.27 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: its the original Pixil binaries |
| 17:58.28 | CosmicPenguin | same code |
| 17:58.30 | CosmicPenguin | mostly |
| 17:58.47 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:01.19 | CosmicPenguin | grrr - I need Python for ipkg don't I |
| 18:01.40 | kergoth | eh |
| 18:01.44 | kergoth | ipkg is written in C |
| 18:10.56 | sorphin | The iPAQ 3650, 3630, and 3635 are the same Pocket PC. The only difference is that the 3635 comes with the CompactFlash Expansion Jacket. The 3650 & 3630 are identical. |
| 18:11.06 | sorphin | uh.. if they're fscking identical... |
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| 18:32.11 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: if I don't have downloadable source code, where do I stick it for my package? |
| 18:33.03 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: you can put them anywhere locally, and put the path in Sources |
| 18:33.09 | kergoth | it'll see its local, and wont try obtaining it |
| 18:33.14 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: k |
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| 18:47.48 | sorphin | pattieja: afternoon jas |
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| 19:03.51 | file | yippe |
| 19:48.50 | mallum | kergoth: hey, remember that wierd rtl_malloc error I was getting x-compiling mb in buildroot ? |
| 19:48.56 | pattieja | afternoon sorphin |
| 19:49.07 | kergoth | mallum: yup |
| 19:49.16 | sorphin | pattieja: what's up? |
| 19:49.38 | mallum | kergoth: do you know the fix, I just got a bug report from someone getting the same prob with a mips x-compile ... |
| 19:50.12 | kergoth | the fix is to supply a malloc test result to the configure script for your target architecture |
| 19:50.26 | kergoth | using config.cache |
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| 19:51.08 | kergoth | hey GPSFan_ |
| 19:51.14 | mallum | arg, its very annoying :( |
| 19:51.20 | GPSFan_ | hi kergoth: how's things? |
| 19:51.26 | kergoth | mallum: well, autoconf doesnt handle crosscompilation very well |
| 19:51.41 | kergoth | either patch configure.ac with a sane default (which wont be correct for all targets, not recommended) |
| 19:51.46 | kergoth | or supply the test results in a config.cache |
| 19:52.17 | kergoth | speaking of mips, i should add a mips-linux config.cache to buildroot |
| 19:53.12 | sorphin | GPSFan_: afternoon ken |
| 19:55.02 | GPSFan_ | hi dan, any progress on your Z? |
| 19:55.24 | mallum | kergoth: do you know if the same problem occurs with glib2 ? |
| 19:55.38 | kergoth | mallum: glib2 has an entirely different set of problems :) |
| 19:55.50 | kergoth | mallum: including requiring an x86 glib2 binary to build |
| 19:56.01 | kergoth | so they'd better have glib2 on their build machine, or do what we do |
| 19:56.03 | sorphin | GPSFan_: heh, i found out the damn cradle grounds pin 13 in 2-3 places.. |
| 19:56.05 | sorphin | bastards |
| 19:56.24 | sorphin | one will just require removing a 0ohm resistor |
| 19:56.30 | sorphin | the other, a trace cut :P |
| 19:57.12 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: ooff, I guess they really didn't want it to be used as a jtag cable, but a xacto knife and a steady hand will fix that problem. ;>) |
| 19:57.29 | sorphin | yup |
| 19:57.44 | sorphin | i was glancing at jflash-linux yesterday |
| 19:57.52 | kergoth | sorphin: going to make your cradle usb/serial/jtag switchable, or permanently jtag? |
| 19:57.57 | sorphin | jtag flashing is a whole new ballgame |
| 19:58.03 | sorphin | kergoth: switchable |
| 19:58.14 | kergoth | spiffy. write up a howto when you're done |
| 19:58.15 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:58.16 | sorphin | kergoth: and actually i was thinking of some how putting a db9 there |
| 19:58.30 | sorphin | and having a db25-> adapter for when i jtag |
| 19:58.40 | kergoth | thatd be more convenient |
| 19:58.41 | sorphin | and w/o the adapter, it's serial |
| 19:58.57 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: with Z5500's going for $200 these days I'm tempted to get one, but I've got too many unfinished projects kicking about as it is. ;>) |
| 19:59.04 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:59.11 | sorphin | GPSFan_: < $200 |
| 19:59.29 | sorphin | they're all over ebay for ~$175ish or there bouts |
| 19:59.37 | sorphin | that's what i got mine for months ago anyawys |
| 19:59.41 | GPSFan_ | true.. |
| 19:59.42 | sorphin | ways |
| 20:00.02 | sorphin | hacking zflash is gonna be the interesting part |
| 20:00.08 | GPSFan_ | still, it's a round-tuit type of thing.. |
| 20:00.12 | sorphin | since jtag flashing isn't like the flashing i'm used to ;) |
| 20:00.34 | kergoth | anything happen w/ the dct's yet? |
| 20:00.40 | kergoth | mine's till collecting dust |
| 20:00.43 | kergoth | :\ |
| 20:00.44 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: isn't jflash a good model to start from? |
| 20:00.54 | sorphin | kergoth: no, but tim put finding the sources on his soon todo list |
| 20:01.04 | kergoth | coool |
| 20:01.08 | sorphin | GPSFan_: i suppose, the code is messy as all hell tho ;) |
| 20:01.12 | kergoth | flash the dct w/ jtag? |
| 20:01.17 | kergoth | or did someone come up with another way |
| 20:01.18 | sorphin | kergoth: prolly |
| 20:01.20 | kergoth | k |
| 20:01.37 | sorphin | jtag looks liek the only way, unless you're TomW and have an eprom emu |
| 20:01.38 | sorphin | :P |
| 20:01.43 | pattieja | sorphin: trying to get debian installed in a VMware machine |
| 20:01.59 | sorphin | pattieja: yuck VMscare :P |
| 20:02.09 | pattieja | heh |
| 20:02.10 | sorphin | pattieja: you mess w/ ipaqs right? |
| 20:02.29 | pattieja | I'm also downloading the 3rd disk for RH 9 and the KNOPPIX_V3.2-2003-03-30 disk as well |
| 20:02.31 | pattieja | yep |
| 20:02.48 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: I could build something to emulate the masked rom, but would probably just get the flash equivalent chip, but my programmer won't do 3.3V parts... |
| 20:03.10 | sorphin | GPSFan_: yeah, tom was talkinga bout doing a flash equiv |
| 20:03.17 | sorphin | i wondered about the pinning/signals tho |
| 20:03.29 | sorphin | pattieja: for some reason was glancing at them on ebay |
| 20:03.34 | sorphin | pondering one |
| 20:03.40 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: I think that jtag just might be the final answer. |
| 20:03.46 | sorphin | GPSFan_: prolly |
| 20:03.51 | pattieja | I hear that even the 3900 series are supported under Linux now |
| 20:04.07 | sorphin | i'd have to look it up to find out what a 3900 series is ;) |
| 20:04.37 | pattieja | for example, we have a 3670 (i.e., 3600 series model) |
| 20:04.41 | sorphin | pattieja: one annoying thing isaw, this page saying 2 36xx's were identical, but yet htey have diff model #'s |
| 20:04.42 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: the nice thing about the flash equibalent is that it's pin-pin what the masked rom is, since we wouldn't want to program it in-circiut, ite flash specific signals shouldn't matter. |
| 20:04.46 | pattieja | technically an H3670 |
| 20:04.48 | sorphin | pattieja: so WHY THE HELL |
| 20:04.59 | pattieja | huh? |
| 20:05.01 | sorphin | GPSFan_: hmm |
| 20:05.04 | sorphin | pattieja: hold |
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| 20:06.31 | file | hey prpplague |
| 20:06.39 | sorphin | pattieja: here, direct quote |
| 20:06.40 | sorphin | <sorphin> The iPAQ 3650, 3630, and 3635 are the same Pocket PC. The only |
| 20:06.41 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.41 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.41 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: that's compaq for you, variations up the wazoo, and little real differences. when I bought my 3765 it was P/N hell. |
| 20:07.07 | sorphin | if the 3650 and the 3630 are the same damn thing.. |
| 20:07.17 | sorphin | GPSFan_: yeah |
| 20:07.22 | sorphin | prpplague: wb bitch |
| 20:08.21 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: I just found the cheapest one with 64M ram. |
| 20:08.32 | sorphin | GPSFan_: yeah |
| 20:08.54 | prpplague | sorphin: yo |
| 20:08.56 | sorphin | one thing i give the ipaq tho |
| 20:09.00 | sorphin | less of a pain to jtag :P |
| 20:09.04 | sorphin | ;) |
| 20:09.14 | sorphin | stupid sharp |
| 20:09.33 | kergoth | stupid sharp |
| 20:12.18 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: you are in the middle of trying to get jtag working on your Z, what would one need to know about the cpu, memory, flash configuration to get jflash (or some other program) configured to run the dct5000? |
| 20:13.38 | prpplague | someone help me out here, where is the config for maximum file size? |
| 20:14.54 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: I think it's called large file support. |
| 20:15.58 | prpplague | GPSFan_: ahh, thanks, i found some info |
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| 20:40.59 | kergoth | mallum: ping |
| 20:43.26 | mallum | kergoth: pomg |
| 20:44.28 | kergoth | mallum: i contacted sharp japan regarding ati specs |
| 20:44.31 | kergoth | mallum: got a reply |
| 20:44.44 | mallum | !!!! |
| 20:44.52 | kergoth | mallum: they have the info on the imageon from ati under nda themselves, they're determining if they can give me the information, given i'm under nda with sharp |
| 20:45.01 | kergoth | mallum: so we'll see. here's hoping. |
| 20:45.17 | mallum | kergoth: oh wow that would rock |
| 20:45.22 | kergoth | and, i dont know what restrictions i'd be under with regard to gpl'ing code that uses it, would have to talk to them further |
| 20:45.28 | kergoth | but anyway, its progress |
| 20:47.46 | sorphin | GPSFan_: well, to be honest, i have no idea.. the only thing i'd prolly have to dig out of jflash |
| 20:47.55 | sorphin | is where they poke at the flash itself |
| 20:48.06 | sorphin | the cpu stuff should be normal since it's still an SA1100 |
| 20:49.49 | mallum | kergoth: cool, I think even if I could get the chipset to hardware rotate the fb 90 degrees it'd be a massive help |
| 20:50.05 | prpplague | kergoth: does openserver have large file support? |
| 20:50.12 | sorphin | mallum: speaking of rotation |
| 20:50.20 | sorphin | mallum: seeing my GF4 going that was just weird |
| 20:50.44 | mallum | GF4 ? |
| 20:50.50 | sorphin | geforce 4 |
| 20:51.20 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: k, just wondering how far you'd dug into the inner workings of jtag/jflash. |
| 20:51.33 | kergoth | prpplague: hrm, not certain |
| 20:51.35 | sorphin | GPSFan_: only glanced |
| 20:51.47 | sorphin | GPSFan_: i did chuck the tux one and went and got the lart original |
| 20:51.58 | sorphin | the tux one had too much crap to strip out to get to the meat |
| 20:56.43 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: k, I guess that for a different CPU and platform, there should be some kind of map that relates the JTAG shift register bit to the CPU pin #, and then if one knows how the flash is connected to the CPU pins, and what commands to send the flash..... hmmm lots to know and do... ;>) |
| 20:57.44 | sorphin | yeah |
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| 21:14.12 | GPSFan_ | well, the shift register to cpu signal mapping is on page 769/770 of the users manual, but the cpu bus is multiplexed address/data, which complicates things a bit, but explains the presence of the 74lvx373's right next to the flash chips. |
| 21:15.01 | sorphin | nod |
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| 21:16.40 | sorphin | Morn: yo |
| 21:16.44 | Morn | hey |
| 21:16.46 | sorphin | Morn: was waiting for you ot appear |
| 21:16.52 | sorphin | Morn: check out dvdshrink |
| 21:16.59 | Morn | dvdshrink? |
| 21:17.06 | sorphin | yes |
| 21:17.06 | Morn | a pysch doc for DVD's?? |
| 21:17.09 | tmb_arg | GPSFan_: which cpu you're talking about? |
| 21:17.24 | sorphin | Morn: http://www.dvdr-digest.com/software/software.php?file=dvdshrink |
| 21:17.27 | GPSFan_ | tmb_arg: mips 5432 |
| 21:17.35 | sorphin | GPSFan_: umm |
| 21:17.44 | sorphin | GPSFan_: i wasn't :P |
| 21:18.07 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: I know you were talking about the sa1110 in yout z. |
| 21:18.16 | sorphin | yup |
| 21:18.35 | sorphin | the DCT is low on the priority list, cuz until tim digs up the code he has |
| 21:18.38 | sorphin | not much to do |
| 21:18.47 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: I'm just trying to get a handle on the steps neccessary to get a jflash-like program going for the dct5k |
| 21:19.07 | sorphin | GPSFan_: prod sjMIPSWHOREhill |
| 21:19.16 | Morn | sorphin: looks interesting |
| 21:19.19 | Morn | have you used it yet? |
| 21:19.25 | sorphin | GPSFan_: he might have some insight on jtaging the 5432 |
| 21:19.27 | GPSFan_ | sorphin: I hope it will all obe when tim gets to looking at his stuff. |
| 21:19.37 | sorphin | Morn: no, just discovered it today, i intend to try it tho |
| 21:30.26 | sorphin | Morn: he just released 1.03, so if you grab it, make sure you got that, if not, wait a day for the 'hosters' to have the new one up |
| 21:33.35 | kergoth | mallum_biab: when you return, whats the keycode for the display rotation sensor? |
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| 21:39.16 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: little somtin for the README file - if you don't use tabs in the pkg.conf, its a bad thing |
| 21:41.42 | kergoth | better solution: fix the kconfig -> make glue generator's parser to be more forgiving |
| 21:41.45 | kergoth | i'll take care of it. |
| 21:59.58 | prpplague | kergoth: openserver doesn't support LFS |
| 22:09.01 | file | mmm? |
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| 22:32.44 | sorphin | prpplague: heh |
| 22:33.07 | sorphin | prpplague: sounds like you're sol then unless you do stuff manually then |
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| 22:43.16 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: whats the prefered way to insert your own inittab into OZ? |
| 22:44.29 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: check out packages/sysvinit/Makefile .. for now its a compiletime thing. note the ifdefs for ipaq, etc. follow their example |
| 22:45.45 | prpplague | sorphin: ? |
| 22:46.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: rectally |
| 22:46.47 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks i need some beer and sleep |
| 22:47.01 | prpplague | kergoth: should be able to get out of here by 10 |
| 22:47.04 | prpplague | i hope |
| 22:47.25 | prpplague | another sco box bites the dust |
| 22:47.35 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: so X11 isn't booting yet? |
| 22:47.40 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: or is that inittab somewhere else |
| 22:47.45 | kergoth | X works |
| 22:47.48 | kergoth | its handled independently |
| 22:47.54 | kergoth | talk to mallum for details |
| 22:47.57 | CosmicPenguin | thats kinda how I want to do it |
| 22:47.58 | kergoth | he maintains our X and matchbox packages |
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| 22:49.01 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... |
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| 22:50.36 | sorphin | prpplague: the openserver+lfs bit |
| 22:51.01 | prpplague | sorphin: i know thats what you were refering to, but i have no idea what you said |
| 22:52.43 | sorphin | you said openserver wont' do it |
| 22:52.51 | prpplague | sorphin: right |
| 22:53.00 | prpplague | sorphin: SCO crap |
| 22:53.02 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:53.05 | sorphin | forget what i said then ;) |
| 22:53.24 | prpplague | sorphin: custom is saying that he could under SCO but can't under linux |
| 22:53.54 | kergoth | i hope you mean a customer, cause if 'custom' the sco packaging tool is talking to you, you need to get out of there worse than i thought |
| 22:53.58 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:53.59 | sorphin | umm |
| 22:54.10 | sorphin | prpplague: lfs under linux is cake |
| 22:54.33 | sorphin | you just need a libc/kernel that support it, and compile things w/ the 64 bit flag for lfs |
| 22:56.24 | CosmicPenguin | signal11_: you around? |
| 22:58.10 | signal11_ | for 1 more minute |
| 22:58.31 | signal11_ | sco sux0rs |
| 22:58.37 | sorphin | yes, they do |
| 22:58.46 | signal11_ | whatever that means |
| 22:58.49 | signal11_ | but it can't be good |
| 22:59.00 | sorphin | signal11_: whatever what means? |
| 22:59.17 | signal11_ | sux0rs |
| 22:59.19 | signal11_ | not really a word |
| 22:59.31 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:59.41 | sorphin | just 133+sp34k |
| 22:59.52 | signal11_ | heh |
| 22:59.55 | CosmicPenguin | signal11_: can you run by my old office and see if I left my serial Ipaq cable there |
| 23:00.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: weren't very thorough? |
| 23:00.19 | signal11_ | where would it be, and what does it look like |
| 23:00.28 | signal11_ | is it a cradle or just a cable? |
| 23:01.29 | CosmicPenguin | signal11_: just a cable |
| 23:01.37 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I thought I was, but I can't find it anywhere |
| 23:02.13 | sorphin | hmm |
| 23:02.34 | signal11_ | i found the cradle that was attached to cosmic |
| 23:02.56 | chouimat | grrrrr I'm tired to see Bagdad on tv .... |
| 23:03.21 | sorphin | chouimat: so stop watching ya dork |
| 23:03.44 | chouimat | sorphin: It's what I'm doing ... |
| 23:05.28 | signal11_ | CosmicPenguin: sorry no cable |
| 23:05.46 | CosmicPenguin | signal11_: damn damn |
| 23:09.07 | chouimat | gcc is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow |
| 23:10.08 | signal11_ | gotta run... i'll chat with you tomorrow am |
| 23:10.19 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i meant customers |
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| 23:10.48 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
| 23:11.07 | CosmicPenguin | damn |
| 23:11.36 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 23:11.38 | mallum_biab | kergoth: look in etc/x11/kb/corgi.xkbd , the keycode for the screen is outlined at the bottom, I think I mapped it to X's sysreq or summin |
| 23:12.00 | kergoth | mallum_biab: okay, thanks |
| 23:12.05 | CosmicPenguin | whew - found it |
| 23:12.37 | mallum_biab | kergoth: got my usenix paper shipped, so I can fix some stuff up on the X/Matchbox build tommorow :-) |
| 23:12.51 | kergoth | mallum_biab: cool. what paper? |
| 23:13.16 | CosmicPenguin | mallum_biab: you happy with the way you start X in OZ? |
| 23:13.20 | mallum_biab | kergoth: matchbox |
| 23:13.28 | kergoth | mallum_biab: coool |
| 23:13.48 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: my plan long term is to fix the way we spawn guis in general, for opie, x, picogui, et cetera |
| 23:13.53 | mallum_biab | CosmicPenguin: via init.d/nullxdm ? hmm its ok I prefer a login in manager like gpes however |
| 23:13.54 | kergoth | but who knows when i'll have time to complete it |
| 23:14.12 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: thats my thought |
| 23:14.22 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I have an init like app that can probably fit the bill |
| 23:14.30 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:14.37 | kergoth | actaully, _really_ long term I want a new init |
| 23:14.38 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I'll try it out and let you know |
| 23:14.44 | kergoth | sysvinit frankly doesnt fit my needs |
| 23:15.01 | CosmicPenguin | init.d/nullxdm doesn't let you take advantage of respawn and other fun stuff |
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| 23:19.01 | chouimat | brb ... my food is ready |
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| 23:30.56 | sorphin | TimRiker: evening |
| 23:31.24 | TimRiker | eve |
| 23:31.37 | prpplague | hey TimRiker |
| 23:31.46 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: BTW - this OZ is pretty slick |
| 23:31.46 | prpplague | howdy the heck are ya? |
| 23:31.47 | CosmicPenguin | after all |
| 23:31.55 | prpplague | TimRiker: your new house get any hail? |
| 23:32.11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I heard they were golf ball sized... :) |
| 23:32.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my business partner's sister left her new lexus outside... oops |
| 23:33.14 | prpplague | doh |
| 23:36.28 | prpplague | sorphin: you say the LFS stuff is pretty easy to implement? |
| 23:37.23 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah |
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| 23:39.50 | sorphin | prpplague: with a newer glibc and kernel |
| 23:40.03 | sorphin | you just compile progs w/ the flags on: http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/services/compute/linux-cluster/develop/LF.html |
| 23:40.17 | sorphin | and it'll 'automatically' use the right open, etc |
| 23:40.53 | prpplague | sorphin: nice |
| 23:40.59 | prpplague | sorphin: i'll have to try it out |
| 23:42.31 | TimRiker | prpplague: a bit, yeah. but no car damage (they were still outside) |
| 23:51.51 | jacques | what's the haps? |