| 00:16.03 | sorphin | ya know |
| 00:16.18 | sorphin | i will never understand debian dependancies (w/ apt-get).. |
| 00:16.29 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.29 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.32 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.51 | sorphin | uh.. so you conflict w/ a version < 3.3.2, but i have 4.2.1 and that's bad? |
| 00:17.07 | sjhill | *yawn* |
| 00:17.09 | sorphin | and i have > .5 of debconf |
| 00:17.21 | sorphin | but even tho it wants that, it doesn't like it |
| 00:17.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:17.36 | sorphin | sjhill: all of us have had crappy days |
| 00:17.52 | sjhill | i know, i just feel like complaining on a broad scale |
| 00:18.05 | sjhill | suddenly i feel better |
| 00:18.10 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:18.11 | sorphin | i don't |
| 00:20.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:20.34 | sorphin | worthless dependancies |
| 00:21.04 | sorphin | it's complaining about shit it has no reason to complain about |
| 00:24.24 | sjhill | lol |
| 00:24.51 | sorphin | i still find this humorous |
| 00:24.56 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.07 | sorphin | it wants >= 2.3.1-1 and -3 is installed |
| 00:25.12 | sorphin | so.... where's the prob |
| 00:26.56 | sjhill | wow, you're machine is fscked....how did you do that exactly? :P |
| 00:27.12 | sjhill | wait wait....were talking sorphin....that's why |
| 00:27.18 | sorphin | prolly a result of that last crash i had |
| 00:27.23 | sorphin | sjhill: FO |
| 00:27.31 | sjhill | oh |
| 00:27.44 | sjhill | sorry about that, i forgot about your disk crash |
| 00:27.58 | sorphin | yeah |
| 00:27.59 | sjhill | i had to recover a debian install from a screwed up XFS crash a couple of months ago |
| 00:28.06 | sorphin | this was from ext3 |
| 00:28.11 | sjhill | omg |
| 00:28.18 | sjhill | that's really horrific then |
| 00:28.24 | sorphin | the journals got hosed |
| 00:28.32 | sorphin | and quite a bit went into lost+found |
| 00:28.38 | sjhill | ah |
| 00:28.53 | sjhill | that's what happened to me....i spent 2 hours pulling directories from lost+found |
| 00:28.58 | sjhill | took some detective work |
| 00:28.59 | sorphin | heh, the only reason i'm even messing w/ some debian packages atm |
| 00:29.05 | sorphin | is for gaim .61 |
| 00:29.08 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:29.12 | sorphin | i had a lot i couldn't ID |
| 00:29.15 | sorphin | so finally gave up |
| 00:29.23 | sjhill | very sorry to hear that |
| 00:29.34 | sorphin | indeed |
| 00:29.48 | sjhill | you don't do any DAT backups? |
| 00:30.30 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:30.44 | sjhill | okaaay....i'll take that as a "no" |
| 00:30.51 | sjhill | eep |
| 00:31.35 | sjhill | yeah, linux is pretty reliable, i don't even think about backups |
| 00:31.39 | sjhill | seriously |
| 00:31.50 | sjhill | but i do backup my main data machine at home and my laptop |
| 00:31.57 | sorphin | the disk crash was cuz of that stupid usb storage BS |
| 00:32.01 | sjhill | with over 0.5GB of email archives, i need that safe |
| 00:32.10 | sjhill | ah |
| 00:32.39 | sorphin | wibble never crashes (my mail machine) |
| 00:32.52 | sorphin | doesn't do much these days tho either, so |
| 00:36.18 | sorphin | funny how all the broken depends are all around teh same particular things |
| 00:36.26 | sorphin | libc, xlibs, ncurses |
| 00:37.33 | sjhill | so using the --force options doesn't work, eh? |
| 00:37.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:37.55 | sorphin | apt is just unhappy unless i hack |
| 00:38.18 | sjhill | hm |
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| 00:38.39 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 00:38.45 | sjhill | it's that Morn chick |
| 00:39.37 | Morn | one very tired Morn |
| 00:39.46 | Morn | I think I may go to bed early tonight |
| 00:39.59 | sorphin | Morn: slacker |
| 00:40.38 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, cute.. a package i don't even have installed |
| 00:40.44 | sorphin | and it's whining for it's deps |
| 00:40.48 | sjhill | rotflol |
| 00:41.40 | sorphin | heh, i finally get one cleaned up, do another, and it decides it found something else wrong w/ the 1st one |
| 00:43.53 | sorphin | FINALLY |
| 00:43.56 | sorphin | -f install runs |
| 00:44.45 | sjhill | congrats |
| 00:44.52 | sjhill | time for a drink |
| 00:45.01 | sorphin | tho seems debian's pool lost a package :P |
| 00:45.24 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.58 | sjhill | gah |
| 00:46.39 | sorphin | ok |
| 00:46.41 | sorphin | fixed again |
| 00:48.11 | sorphin | finally |
| 00:48.14 | sorphin | installed |
| 00:49.31 | sjhill | hmm $50 for a 7 cdrom scsi tower that only uses one scsi id...30x speed cdroms...i think i got a good deal |
| 00:49.44 | sjhill | shipping will kill me though |
| 00:49.52 | sjhill | about $50 for shipping |
| 00:49.55 | sjhill | oh well |
| 00:50.07 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:50.33 | sjhill | i've decided that instead of taking up my harddisk stuff for stuff that never changes, to use cdroms instead |
| 00:50.42 | sjhill | for that price it's worth it i think |
| 00:51.05 | sorphin | nod |
| 00:51.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:51.29 | sorphin | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
| 00:57.42 | Morn | sjhill: you should just get a dvd burner |
| 00:58.13 | sorphin | Morn: CP should be happy, they just finally got the A05 patched for region, plus eliminated the 2x read block |
| 00:58.27 | Morn | cool |
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| 01:52.24 | sjhill | A05? |
| 02:00.13 | sorphin | pioneer DVR-A05 |
| 02:00.24 | sjhill | k |
| 02:00.37 | sorphin | prolly has a baby mips in it ;) |
| 02:01.05 | sorphin | since drives do have cpus and i have seen a mips on a writer before |
| 02:01.55 | sjhill | probably a r3k derivative |
| 02:02.07 | sjhill | those are sooo cheap |
| 02:02.34 | sorphin | nod |
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| 02:15.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no shit? |
| 02:16.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no shit |
| 02:16.25 | CosmicPenguin | does it work? |
| 02:16.41 | sorphin | from what i've read from everyone that has an A05 on the firmwareflash forums |
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| 03:16.06 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... my copy of mplayer won't handle the .MOV from the Matrix |
| 03:21.32 | chouimat | hey CosmicPenguin |
| 03:21.42 | CosmicPenguin | hey chouimat |
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| 03:49.04 | jsunseri | hey guys i was thinking of making my own RH based linux for the xbox |
| 03:50.10 | jsunseri | but i dotn know much about making my own distro |
| 03:59.03 | chouimat | ok night guys |
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| 04:05.41 | CosmicPenguin | jsunseri: thats a pretty tough thing to do |
| 04:06.04 | jsunseri | well id like to try |
| 04:06.29 | kergoth | making a distro's a lot more trouble than you'd expect. |
| 04:06.57 | jsunseri | i figured most of the work would have been done already buy RH |
| 04:07.01 | jsunseri | its all there |
| 04:07.22 | kergoth | you have their packages, but you dont have their tools |
| 04:07.43 | jsunseri | well what type of tools? |
| 04:08.19 | kergoth | heh, tools to manage the build process and packaging and deployment, and the like |
| 04:09.12 | jsunseri | well i was just going to use the stock rpms |
| 04:09.33 | kergoth | well obviously thats not the case, you need an xbox kernel package, at the _very_ least |
| 04:09.47 | jsunseri | yeah |
| 04:09.57 | jsunseri | i know i could use the stock kernel |
| 04:10.01 | jsunseri | couldnt |
| 04:10.44 | jsunseri | since all the xboxes are the same im sure i can find an xbox kernel out there somewhere |
| 04:10.59 | kergoth | of course |
| 04:11.03 | jsunseri | well mostly the same |
| 04:11.09 | kergoth | the point is, just be aware its going to be a substantial effort. |
| 04:11.26 | jsunseri | im willing |
| 04:12.25 | jsunseri | i was just thinking there might have been someone who make an embedded linux based on RH that i coudl look at and see the steps i have to take |
| 04:17.25 | jsunseri | im not exactly sure where to start |
| 04:17.42 | CosmicPenguin | Redhat isn't exactly embeddable |
| 04:17.57 | jsunseri | y is that? |
| 04:19.53 | jsunseri | mdk is embedded |
| 04:20.29 | jsunseri | mdk is rpm based i dont see y not a rh based xbox-linux |
| 04:24.41 | CosmicPenguin | rpm != RH |
| 04:24.49 | jsunseri | i know |
| 04:25.14 | jsunseri | what makes mdk embeddable and rh not? |
| 04:25.53 | CosmicPenguin | Well, none of this is really embedded, now is it? |
| 04:26.09 | CosmicPenguin | The XBox is more powerful than my first 3 computers, combined |
| 04:26.14 | jsunseri | CosmicPenguin: u probably know a lot more about this than me im just on a fact finding mission |
| 04:27.20 | jsunseri | i should find some infornmation from the mdk people who put that together |
| 04:27.38 | jsunseri | this isnt the right channel |
| 06:07.30 | sorphin | RH is a bloaty dist |
| 06:07.48 | kergoth | and mdk adds more bloat upon the bloat |
| 06:07.49 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:08.00 | sorphin | kergoth: but i'd rather use MDK than RH :P |
| 06:08.21 | kergoth | i'd rather use conectiva than either |
| 06:08.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 06:08.31 | sorphin | no gentoo? :P |
| 06:08.33 | kergoth | includes apt-rpm, better international support, etc |
| 06:08.40 | kergoth | heh, i'm a debian guy |
| 06:08.47 | kergoth | but if i've gotta go rpm, i'd go conectiva |
| 06:08.52 | sorphin | kergoth: see my debian fun earlier? |
| 06:09.02 | sorphin | just to compile the newest gaim |
| 06:09.15 | kergoth | hm, i'm using the newest gaim on my box |
| 06:09.35 | kergoth | brb |
| 06:20.45 | sorphin | heh |
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| 08:46.21 | ade|desk | morning |
| 08:47.11 | sorphin | lo |
| 08:48.50 | ade|desk | sorphin: do you never sleep man ? |
| 08:49.15 | sorphin | ade|desk: sometimes |
| 08:49.46 | ade|desk | sorphin: robot status? |
| 08:50.15 | sorphin | heh |
| 08:50.36 | sorphin | ade|desk: insufficient tea levels, please try again later. *grin* |
| 08:51.36 | ade|desk | sorphin: speaking of tea ... |
| 08:52.14 | sorphin | ade|desk: hehe |
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| 13:44.40 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 13:44.57 | sjhill | hi |
| 13:48.50 | ade|home | lo |
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| 14:03.33 | CosmicPenguin | Doh - the touchscreen on this ipaq is pretty much shot |
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| 14:10.12 | sieve | morning all |
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| 14:19.28 | nelson | Current buildroot neglects to install libgcc |
| 14:19.42 | nelson | Any suggestions on how to fix that? |
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| 15:04.54 | kergoth | morning |
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| 15:31.36 | TomW | nelson: what do you mean by libgcc? |
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| 15:41.42 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:45.53 | nelson | TomW: /build/root/lib/libgcc_s.so -> libgcc_s.so.0.9.9 |
| 15:46.30 | nelson | I copied it from build/stage to build/root, rebuilt the image, reflashed, and now rxvt, matchbox, etc work. |
| 15:47.02 | nelson | But how do we get that fix back into the buildroot? It seems only to be a problem for tinyx. |
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| 15:53.18 | TomW | nelson: Ahh, that sounds like a libc type of problem, Erik Andersens' responsibilty. You should be able to post a message to the TuxScreen mailing list. Describle the problem and any possible fix. To make sure it gets Erik's attention, let andersee know about it when he logs in here. |
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| 15:55.48 | TomW | nelson: if you have a diff with the correction, you might send it to me and I'll commit the change. |
| 15:55.51 | TomW | ibot: tomw |
| 15:55.52 | | rumour has it, tomw is at tom@openhardware.net |
| 15:56.26 | sjhill | ibot: sjhill |
| 15:56.26 | | i heard sjhill is mailto:sjhill@realitydiluted.com and a MIPS wh*re |
| 15:56.37 | sjhill | gah....sorphin!!!! |
| 15:56.38 | TomW | heh |
| 15:57.24 | TomW | sjhill: maybe your login via irc should be "ibot: forget sjhill; ibot: sjhill is"? |
| 15:57.48 | sjhill | heh |
| 15:57.51 | sjhill | that's okay |
| 16:01.03 | sjhill | i'll find his address one of these days and send him a raw fish |
| 16:01.52 | TomW | hmmm, I think I have that... |
| 16:03.33 | TomW | ibot: sorphin |
| 16:03.33 | | rumour has it, sorphin is sorphin |
| 16:08.22 | chouimat | hi TomW sjhill |
| 16:08.43 | TomW | hello |
| 16:12.16 | ade|desk | ibot: sorphin is the sleepless one |
| 16:13.40 | kergoth | yo |
| 16:14.32 | chouimat | hey kergoth |
| 16:24.33 | sjhill | hello chouimat |
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| 16:32.44 | CosmicPenguin | Don't you hate it when you forget an important meeting? |
| 16:33.02 | kergoth | i hate it when i have to go to a meeting at all |
| 16:33.03 | kergoth | :) |
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| 17:42.09 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 17:42.40 | kergoth | hey dave |
| 17:44.05 | prpplague | kergoth: whats cookin? |
| 17:44.16 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
| 17:44.33 | kergoth | nada |
| 17:44.35 | kergoth | ibot: friday |
| 17:44.42 | kergoth | ibot: friday? |
| 17:44.47 | kergoth | stupid bot |
| 17:47.26 | prpplague | kergoth: went to "the zoo" last night |
| 17:47.27 | chouimat | weatherbot: weather cyqb |
| 17:47.27 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Quebec, Que, Canada: It is 10 C (51 F), windspeed is 12.87 km/h, and visibility is 48.28 km. (Information current as of 2003.04.11 1700 UTC). |
| 17:47.27 | chouimat | hmmmm nice weather ... |
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| 17:57.16 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 17:57.47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you around? |
| 17:58.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya sorta |
| 18:11.45 | nelson | ibot: weather wmss |
| 18:11.59 | nelson | weatherbot: weather wmss |
| 18:12.00 | weatherbot | Failed to lookup weather at station WMSS |
| 18:12.09 | nelson | weatherbot: weather kmss |
| 18:12.12 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Massena, Massena International-Richards Field, NY, United States: It is 15 C (60 F), windspeed is 11.27 km/h, and visibility is 16.09 km. (Information current as of 2003.04.11 1753 UTC). |
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| 18:19.05 | TimRiker | ibot: weather kmss |
| 18:23.03 | nelson | doesn't matter *that* much. It's just cute to see who asks for which weather. |
| 18:24.40 | nelson | andersee: matchbox depends on libgcc.so, but it's not copied into build/root/ |
| 18:25.01 | nelson | andersee: spent a bit of time trying to figure it out on my own. Any clues to throw my way? |
| 18:25.20 | nelson | andersee: I copied it by hand, and it's definitely necessary. |
| 18:32.56 | prpplague | when dd'n a complete large hd, whats the best args for block sizes |
| 18:32.57 | prpplague | ? |
| 18:34.00 | andersee | nelson: eh? |
| 18:34.04 | prpplague | sorry, not block size, byte size |
| 18:34.12 | andersee | nelson: are you speking of the tuxscreen buildroot? |
| 18:44.31 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm... the ioctl() doesn't seem to be working for the ipaq calibration any more |
| 18:44.59 | kergoth | just say no to in kernel calibration! |
| 18:45.00 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:46.23 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yeah, thats what I say |
| 18:46.34 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: unfortunately, of the "fast, good, cheap" triad, I'm going for the first one |
| 18:46.44 | kergoth | yeah, cant blame ya there |
| 18:46.51 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: and not by choice |
| 18:47.10 | kergoth | arent deadlines grand? |
| 18:47.12 | kergoth | bleh |
| 18:47.23 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: but the good thing is that I have a pixil.ipkg and a microwin.ipkg on my HD right now, and thats a *very* good thing |
| 18:47.42 | kergoth | nice. |
| 18:47.54 | CosmicPenguin | Now - if I could just get this damn libwww to play nice, life would be nice |
| 18:48.13 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: opensource yet? |
| 18:48.20 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: working on it |
| 18:48.27 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Greg thinks he has his big deal |
| 18:48.57 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: oh? |
| 18:49.02 | nelson | andersee: yes, tuxscreen buildroot. |
| 18:49.13 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: something to do with pixil, or something else? |
| 18:49.17 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: fully pixil |
| 18:49.20 | andersee | nelson: Hmm. |
| 18:49.50 | andersee | nelson: The current stuff in the tuxscreen buildroot is lagging behind the uclibc.org buildroot. |
| 18:50.00 | andersee | nelson: I need to port that fix over |
| 18:50.13 | nelson | this tells me nothing useful: find ./build/matchbox-0.2.1 | xargs grep libgcc |
| 18:50.35 | nelson | shouldn't there be a dependency in matchbox saying that it uses libgcc?? |
| 18:50.47 | andersee | nelson: no |
| 18:50.54 | kergoth | nelson: depends on your toolchain.. most 2.95.3 toolchains are static libgcc |
| 18:51.02 | andersee | nelson: That is supposed to be copied into place by uclibc_toolchain.mk |
| 18:51.03 | kergoth | whereas gcc3 is usually shared |
| 18:51.09 | kergoth | bleh, brb |
| 18:51.23 | nelson | Ahhhhh, I see. |
| 18:51.59 | nelson | Okay, well, I have the problem solved for myself. I just want to make sure that it gets solved for others as well. |
| 18:52.25 | andersee | nelson: You should be able to grab the latest uclibc_toolchain.mk from http://www.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ and drop it into place and it will work |
| 18:53.09 | nelson | if that's the solution, and you're going to do it on your own, then I'm satisfied. |
| 18:55.35 | CosmicPenguin | ahh, my old nemisis - transcode |
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| 19:05.42 | file | hi chouimat |
| 19:16.38 | prpplague | anyone know a good bootable cd-rom based dist? |
| 19:19.56 | sorphin | prpplague: knoppix? ;) |
| 19:20.12 | chouimat | hi file |
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| 19:33.44 | mallum | kergoth: hi, any word from sharp re video chip ? |
| 19:36.58 | kergoth | mallum: nothing as of yet |
| 19:48.42 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: any tasty command line mp3 players in the OZ buildroot yet? |
| 19:49.11 | kergoth | hmm i doubt it. all the libs are there, just need to add madplay or something |
| 19:49.24 | CosmicPenguin | I see |
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| 20:00.52 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: tried madplay? |
| 20:01.55 | kergoth | :) |
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| 20:04.20 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: not yet |
| 20:11.55 | CosmicPenguin | Thats one slow video |
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| 21:03.41 | sorphin | TomW: re |
| 21:03.59 | TomW | hey, took my ipaq 3135 apart. |
| 21:04.13 | sorphin | cool |
| 21:04.18 | TomW | I ordered a battery for it |
| 21:04.51 | TomW | I was just looking around to see if there wasn't some data on the connector pinouts. |
| 21:05.37 | sorphin | nod |
| 21:05.40 | sorphin | there's a lot more out there for the ipaq :P |
| 21:07.54 | sorphin | TomW: was thinking about going to look at scopes |
| 21:07.55 | TomW | hmmm, Doom for the ipaq?! |
| 21:08.13 | sorphin | yup |
| 21:08.51 | TomW | I wish the thing had an RS232 port on it. |
| 21:10.34 | kergoth | prboom works great w/ SDL |
| 21:10.35 | kergoth | performs well |
| 21:10.38 | TomW | This thing is running WinCE, I have _got_ to get that fixed! |
| 21:11.00 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:11.06 | sorphin | TomW: most make it run both |
| 21:11.17 | TomW | I wince'd when I saw that. |
| 21:11.24 | TomW | :P |
| 21:11.42 | file | TomW: LOL |
| 21:12.16 | kergoth | hmm |
| 21:12.31 | kergoth | why isnt there a gcc/config/ppc/t-linux file in the gcc source? |
| 21:12.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:17.17 | kergoth | n/m |
| 21:22.30 | TomW | ok, that explains why I cannot use the USB with the ipaq... I have to add it into the kernel. |
| 21:24.12 | CosmicPenguin | I should be able to set the runlevel on the ipaq by specifying it in the linuxargs, right? |
| 21:25.12 | kergoth | yep, or just change initdefault in inittab, which is easier |
| 21:25.40 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: pretend I screwed up, and I can't get a login prompt |
| 21:25.45 | CosmicPenguin | because I am a royal idiot |
| 21:25.56 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:26.03 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 21:27.04 | sorphin | oops |
| 21:32.38 | CosmicPenguin | there is a reason why we don't stick important stuff like GUIs in the rc.d scripts |
| 21:32.57 | CosmicPenguin | s/important/blocking/ |
| 21:39.44 | TomW | sorphin: Well, I cannot bash ebay any longer. This ipaq arrived in excellent condition, she only charged me the cost of Priority Mail, and included all the manuals + accessories. Not a bad deal for an Ipaq 3135 for $51.75? I have to replace the battery, that cost me $61.50 with shipping. |
| 21:40.31 | TomW | sorphin: but, I will have to get a serial cradle before I can update it to run linux. |
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| 21:41.54 | sorphin | TomW: ;) |
| 21:41.58 | sorphin | prpplague: lo |
| 21:42.00 | sieve | prpplague: sneaking in huh? |
| 21:43.42 | prpplague | sieve: ya |
| 21:43.50 | prpplague | sieve: had to do some network reconfig |
| 21:44.04 | TomW | $#^#$^$# Torx screws!!! |
| 21:44.27 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:44.30 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:44.52 | sorphin | TomW: hehe |
| 21:44.59 | prpplague | TomW: Torx were invented on the request of some managment ppl |
| 21:45.19 | prpplague | TomW: no true engineer i know would create those |
| 21:48.19 | TomW | prpplague: you got that straight! |
| 21:48.51 | sorphin | -s |
| 21:48.59 | prpplague | TomW: the original design was for standard phillips, and then managment changed it on the assembly line |
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| 21:49.45 | sorphin | chouimat: shush |
| 21:49.53 | chouimat | sorphin: :P |
| 21:50.33 | sorphin | chouimat: libxml-perl-0.07 is failing tests, but won't tell me why |
| 21:50.42 | TomW | prpplague: that is one of the problems with management, they have to justify their existance so they fsck things up. |
| 21:51.24 | chouimat | hehe |
| 21:51.54 | sorphin | fscking pissing me off |
| 21:53.55 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:54.19 | sorphin | heh, now it works |
| 21:54.26 | sorphin | stupid 1/2 ass coded tests |
| 21:54.59 | ade|desk | lol |
| 21:55.24 | sorphin | put a use bytes; at the top of the test file |
| 21:55.26 | sorphin | it fixes itself |
| 21:55.56 | ade|desk | any ideas why my machine hangs randomly with no load on it at all ? |
| 21:56.09 | ade|desk | ie not over heating |
| 21:57.53 | kergoth | argh |
| 21:58.28 | sorphin | ade|desk: could be any # of reasons |
| 21:59.06 | ade|desk | sorphin: enlighten me |
| 22:00.47 | sorphin | ade|desk: didn't say i knew them all :P something could be going flakey on your board or one of your devices.. a dodgy cable stuff like taht |
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| 22:05.20 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:05.34 | ade|desk | sorphin: doh bugger ... hoped you would solve my problems |
| 22:05.45 | sorphin | one was failing because XML::Parser needed to be patched, but of course, cpan won't do that :P |
| 22:08.10 | Morn | re's |
| 22:09.48 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 22:09.54 | Morn | grrrr |
| 22:10.21 | Morn | how do I check to see if a dvd writer is using dma while it is in scsi-emu mode? |
| 22:11.15 | sorphin | you're actually under linux? :P |
| 22:11.29 | Morn | don't sound so surprised! |
| 22:11.51 | sorphin | hehe |
| 22:12.08 | sorphin | and yeah, there is, hold |
| 22:12.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:12.54 | kergoth | my pda now has realport, so i can control portservers from my pda |
| 22:12.58 | kergoth | frightening |
| 22:13.06 | sorphin | Morn: /proc/ide/<device>/settings |
| 22:13.28 | sorphin | you know what the device is before it maps it to scsi :P |
| 22:13.54 | Morn | current_speed 66 0 70 rw |
| 22:14.04 | Morn | is that ATA/66? |
| 22:14.21 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:14.26 | sorphin | and actually dma would be |
| 22:14.26 | sorphin | using_dma 1 0 1 rw |
| 22:14.28 | sorphin | :P |
| 22:14.31 | Morn | and using_dma is 0 |
| 22:14.35 | sorphin | then you're not |
| 22:14.47 | sorphin | if you were using dma |
| 22:14.50 | Morn | that would explain why when I wrote a CD my whole system slowed to a crawl |
| 22:14.54 | sorphin | the above would be right |
| 22:15.02 | sorphin | what i pasted that is |
| 22:15.17 | Morn | can I change it via the proc settings file? |
| 22:15.40 | prpplague | hdparm has some pretty consistant tests on ide performance |
| 22:15.51 | prpplague | Morn: best to use hdparm |
| 22:15.57 | Morn | yes, but if the drive is in scsi emu you can't use hdparm |
| 22:16.31 | file | mmm? |
| 22:16.39 | prpplague | Morn: hmm, not sure thats correct, i use my dvd-cdrw with ide-scsi and use hdparm |
| 22:16.43 | Morn | apparently that will work |
| 22:16.52 | Morn | but I couldn't do hdparm /dev/hdb |
| 22:16.53 | ade|desk | me too |
| 22:16.54 | Morn | to get info |
| 22:17.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:17.52 | sorphin | you can use hdparm w/ scsi |
| 22:17.59 | sorphin | but not to poll info like she wanted |
| 22:18.09 | sorphin | and you can't set dma w/ hdparm on scsi |
| 22:18.16 | sorphin | Morn: and yes, you can set dma via proc |
| 22:18.27 | sorphin | last i checked |
| 22:18.33 | Morn | aparently hdparm -d1 /dev/hdb works |
| 22:18.42 | Morn | checked via cat settings |
| 22:18.48 | Morn | now to test |
| 22:18.54 | ade|desk | can you not use it as ide first , set dma, then use scsi emu ? |
| 22:19.20 | sorphin | ade|desk: no |
| 22:19.29 | sorphin | because it has to pick one driver or the other |
| 22:19.42 | sorphin | scsi-emu doesn't 'override' |
| 22:19.44 | sorphin | it replaces |
| 22:20.29 | ade|desk | bugger |
| 22:21.05 | Morn | well, my system isn't sluggish writing a cdrom now |
| 22:21.09 | Morn | so that must have worked |
| 22:21.20 | ade|desk | great |
| 22:21.38 | sorphin | cool |
| 22:21.59 | sorphin | Morn: strange that it didn't turn dma on on boot |
| 22:22.01 | Morn | the whole purpose was to rewrite the pvr-250 cdrom |
| 22:22.12 | Morn | it didn't turn it on for either of the dvd writers |
| 22:22.28 | Morn | I'm trying to get the linux driver for the pvr card working tonight |
| 22:22.37 | Morn | I'm just the party animal :-) |
| 22:22.43 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:23.12 | sorphin | Morn: there's a party in your machine and the PVR card is invited :P |
| 22:23.19 | Morn | grin |
| 22:23.36 | Morn | I did get ATI card working for TV viewing |
| 22:23.38 | Morn | which is good |
| 22:24.04 | sorphin | nod |
| 22:26.26 | Morn | I keep getting Unresolved symbols in the modules |
| 22:26.49 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:27.11 | Morn | the big question is what symbols :-) |
| 22:29.32 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:29.37 | sorphin | it shoul say |
| 22:30.01 | Morn | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.13mdkenterprise/misc/msp3400.o |
| 22:30.09 | Morn | that's all it says for each one |
| 22:30.27 | sorphin | uhh |
| 22:30.29 | kergoth | depmod -ae |
| 22:30.39 | kergoth | (iirc) |
| 22:30.45 | Morn | ah |
| 22:30.49 | Morn | I was just doing depmod -a |
| 22:30.54 | sorphin | yup |
| 22:31.04 | sorphin | kergoth: very good digiboy |
| 22:31.10 | kergoth | pfft. |
| 22:31.13 | kergoth | ~lart sorphin |
| 22:31.16 | Morn | depmod: i2c_master_send |
| 22:31.17 | Morn | depmod: i2c_probe |
| 22:31.17 | Morn | depmod: i2c_detach_client |
| 22:31.17 | Morn | depmod: i2c_check_functionality |
| 22:31.19 | Morn | hmmm |
| 22:31.34 | sorphin | kergoth: how bout what i asked you for? :P |
| 22:36.50 | Morn | [root@julie misc]# modprobe ivtv-api |
| 22:36.50 | Morn | modprobe: Too deep recursion in module dependencies! |
| 22:36.50 | Morn | modprobe: Circular dependency? ivtv-driver ivtv-api |
| 22:36.54 | Morn | that looks like fun! |
| 22:37.50 | kergoth | whee. |
| 22:37.56 | kergoth | sorphin: havent had a chance. busy as hell |
| 22:38.33 | sorphin | kergoth: heh |
| 22:40.01 | kergoth | sorphin: i was given access to an opteron box |
| 22:40.12 | kergoth | sorphin: fucking amazing. i want one. bad. |
| 22:40.33 | sorphin | hehe |
| 22:40.36 | sorphin | i'll be buying one :P |
| 22:40.41 | kergoth | 1mb of cache on the cpu |
| 22:40.41 | kergoth | 64bit |
| 22:40.43 | kergoth | 6gb of ram |
| 22:40.46 | kergoth | dual 1.6ghz |
| 22:40.47 | kergoth | *drool* |
| 22:41.23 | sorphin | cool |
| 22:44.08 | ade|desk | lol |
| 22:44.40 | ade|desk | i'll stick to my 2x 2.2GHz athlons for the mo :) |
| 22:47.53 | ade|desk | ph33r my 1337 box, that falls over at any location other than his uni room |
| 22:47.55 | levi | Though I think the guy in the cube next to mine has an Opteron to play with. |
| 22:48.19 | levi | He's always got the latest toys, to put LinuxBIOS on them. |
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| 22:57.30 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 22:57.43 | Morn | ivtv: attempting ioremap at 0xe8000000 len 0x04000000 |
| 22:57.45 | Morn | ivtv: ioremap failed, perhaps increasing __VMALLOC_RESERVE in page.h would help |
| 22:57.47 | Morn | ivtv: Error -12 on init |
| 22:57.51 | Morn | does that make any sense? |
| 22:57.53 | Morn | it starts to load the module for the card |
| 22:57.55 | Morn | then I get that |
| 22:58.52 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:59.05 | sorphin | can't mem map |
| 22:59.14 | sorphin | might wanna try what it says |
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| 23:32.01 | ade|desk | doh i liked the Morn antics ... come back |
| 23:32.16 | sorphin | eh? |
| 23:34.42 | ade|desk | it was fun to watch the mem map quiz |
| 23:34.42 | ade|desk | but shes gone :( |
| 23:34.42 | ade|desk | oops i've got a job interview in 6.5 hours time ... |
| 23:34.42 | ade|desk | night all |
| 23:34.42 | sorphin | oops |
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| 23:40.47 | sorphin | GPSFan: re |
| 23:41.13 | GPSFan | hi dan, s'up? |
| 23:42.18 | sorphin | fighting w/ stuff, and my weekend just got canceled, heh. you? |
| 23:43.32 | GPSFan | sorry to hear that, I feel like file, fighting with UPS. ;>( |
| 23:43.42 | file | GPSFan: What did they do now? |
| 23:44.19 | GPSFan | file: "exception correct street # needed" |
| 23:44.42 | file | GPSFan: mmm could be smudged or something... or bad writing |
| 23:45.14 | file | GPSFan: All you need to do is give them a ring and they should fix it and have it to you Monday |
| 23:45.57 | GPSFan | file: this is comming to me, and their customer service read back exactly the correct address to me over the phone. just like the 100 or so other UPS deliveries I get each year... |
| 23:46.09 | file | GPSFan: oh dear me |
| 23:46.55 | GPSFan | file: probably a different driver, my normal one waves when we pass each other on the road.. |
| 23:47.03 | file | GPSFan: yeah |
| 23:48.15 | kergoth | realport-common_1.5-1_all.ipk |
| 23:48.15 | kergoth | realport-ditty_1.5-1_armv4l-strongarm.ipk |
| 23:48.15 | kergoth | realport-modules_1.5-1_poodle.ipk |
| 23:48.15 | kergoth | realport-tools_1.5-1_armv4l-strongarm.ipk |
| 23:48.16 | kergoth | woot |
| 23:48.29 | kergoth | a digi driver with sane packaging for the first time in the history of the world |
| 23:48.33 | file | GPSFan: UPS is good when they forget to take a place off their scheduled pickup route - when you cancelled |
| 23:50.09 | sorphin | file: so don't compile on a P75 :P |
| 23:50.33 | file | I don't have a P75, never had never will... |