| 00:00.08 | chouimat|tv | ok tv |
| 00:00.18 | Russ | prpplague: yes |
| 00:00.23 | prpplague | Russ: the country western community won't forget the dixie chicks |
| 00:00.26 | Russ | prpplague: and sco too, after they go under |
| 00:00.29 | Russ | prpplague: sco who? |
| 00:00.30 | file | Goodbye Earl! |
| 00:00.42 | file | Cause Earl had to die! |
| 00:01.59 | chouimat|tv | ? |
| 00:02.54 | Russ | chouimat|tv: aparently not a dixie fan yourself |
| 00:03.37 | Russ | http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?id=67424 < lyrics |
| 00:05.56 | sorphin | file: no country in here |
| 00:11.49 | chouimat|tv | Russ: I'm more a heavy metal/progressive fan |
| 00:12.38 | chouimat|tv | kergoth`bbl wb |
| 00:12.53 | chouimat|tv | oops wrong channel |
| 00:15.07 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:23.12 | Russ | ... right.... |
| 00:27.09 | file | delete... these... files |
| 00:32.31 | chouimat|tv | ok does anyone know if Longhorn will work in Vmware 4.x? |
| 00:33.23 | Russ | chouimat|tv: whats new that you "need" |
| 00:34.11 | chouimat|tv | Russ: was juts a question ... got a call from a customer |
| 00:38.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:38.08 | sorphin | ask the vmware ppl :P |
| 00:39.12 | chouimat|tv | sorphin: thanks :) |
| 00:39.34 | chouimat|walkk | bb in about 1 hours |
| 00:59.27 | file | legodude: congrats |
| 00:59.46 | legodude | thanks |
| 00:59.50 | legodude | just 3 years late |
| 00:59.58 | legodude | but I finally got it done :P |
| 01:00.05 | file | hehe |
| 01:00.31 | legodude | I bought one of the original ones when circuit city sold em |
| 01:00.59 | legodude | had linux running on it rather quickly then mucked it up and lost my IDE cable |
| 01:01.30 | file | yikes |
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| 01:31.18 | agoliveira | TomW: Hi Tom, nice to see you around :) |
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| 02:05.39 | file | it works, it works |
| 02:05.51 | chouimat | ewwwwwwwww file is dancing |
| 02:05.58 | file | but alas - I'm going to sleep |
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| 02:34.42 | Error403 | Is there someone here that is willing to help me AGAIN? This time with a tslib problem. |
| 02:35.23 | MonMotha | nothing works for you, does it |
| 02:36.34 | Error403 | no :( |
| 02:37.12 | sorphin | Error403: kergoth already went to bed |
| 02:37.30 | sorphin | and i dunno know who else is awake that would know it |
| 02:45.16 | MonMotha | erasing EPROMs simply requires exposing the window to intense UV, right? |
| 02:46.13 | sorphin | MonMotha: the proper wavelength |
| 02:46.26 | sorphin | but yeah |
| 02:46.33 | MonMotha | think leaving it out in bright sunlight for a long time would do it? |
| 02:46.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:46.58 | sorphin | you'd have more luck w/ a blacklight prolly :P |
| 02:46.58 | MonMotha | works for some things |
| 02:47.05 | MonMotha | hum... |
| 02:47.14 | MonMotha | or just calling up the guy I know with an EPROM eraser : |
| 02:47.15 | MonMotha | :) |
| 02:47.21 | sorphin | MonMotha: prolly cook the chip too :P |
| 02:48.05 | MonMotha | heh |
| 02:48.54 | chouimat | http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0596004591.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg |
| 02:50.16 | legodude | haha |
| 02:51.17 | MonMotha | well, I can build a programmer, but an eraser may be a bit more difficult... |
| 02:51.26 | MonMotha | fortunately EEPROMs and Flash I can handle :) |
| 02:51.36 | MonMotha | I've just got a bunch of old EPROMs I'd like to use |
| 02:53.16 | chouimat | ok a black cat on marine bed sheet is very hard to see in the dark |
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| 03:18.05 | legodude | anyone know a decent Windows email app? |
| 03:20.29 | sorphin | legodude: um.. netscape mail, eudora? i dunno |
| 03:29.29 | Russ | port the gtk2 version of evulution |
| 03:29.34 | Russ | er, evolution |
| 03:29.41 | legodude | haha |
| 03:29.50 | legodude | 80mb mail app |
| 03:29.59 | legodude | I liked BeMail best of all |
| 03:30.18 | legodude | simple, fast, and oh so nice |
| 03:35.47 | chouimat|shower | legodude: http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:36.18 | legodude | looks nifty |
| 03:36.19 | legodude | thanks |
| 03:36.28 | legodude | Pegasus Mail started sucking in later versions |
| 03:36.32 | legodude | maybe I'll just downgrade it |
| 03:37.14 | chouimat|shower | legodude: I don't know if it's a good client since I don't use windows for my emails |
| 03:40.08 | Error403 | Is there a way to tell what libraries are loaded by apps? |
| 03:40.17 | legodude | there |
| 03:40.19 | legodude | is |
| 03:40.26 | legodude | ldd? |
| 03:40.36 | Error403 | err, no |
| 03:40.49 | Error403 | I mean, all of the libs currently open in the system |
| 03:40.55 | Error403 | not per app |
| 03:41.23 | Error403 | Because dlopen isn't reflected in ldd (and my arm-uclibc-ldd crashes) |
| 03:41.29 | legodude | http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html |
| 03:42.25 | legodude | I think there may be |
| 03:42.37 | legodude | but my brain is in no state to discuss that right now |
| 03:42.53 | Error403 | well, lsof is the closest thing I can think of, but that doesn't seem to be working on my system :( |
| 03:44.45 | Error403 | That's so stupid that a simple app like lsof doesn't work, and even bash barely works |
| 03:47.53 | Russ | memstat |
| 03:48.41 | Russ | shows libraries, their size, and what processes are using them |
| 04:06.30 | Error403 | cool, thanks |
| 04:09.17 | Error403 | is that a /proc file? |
| 04:09.25 | Error403 | or at least suppose to be |
| 04:10.33 | Error403 | nm |
| 04:10.43 | Error403 | Just having trouble finding the memstat website |
| 04:12.59 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 05:10.13 | MonMotha | sorphin: and apparently yes, you can erase eproms by leaving them in sunlight |
| 05:10.16 | MonMotha | takes about two weeks |
| 05:27.23 | sorphin | MonMotha: i don't think you wanna wait that long ;) |
| 05:37.59 | MonMotha | sorphin: not really, no :) |
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| 13:59.38 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:06.27 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
| 14:06.40 | prpplague | howdy |
| 14:08.26 | chouimat | thinking about going outside to drink my coffee very very nice sun but a 8C I must wear something ... |
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| 14:13.01 | sieve | morninga ll |
| 14:13.03 | sieve | all |
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| 14:15.24 | sieve | lo CosmicPenguin |
| 14:16.40 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:22.10 | chouimat | hi sieve CosmicPenguin |
| 14:49.42 | CosmicPenguin | quiet today |
| 14:56.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not from where i'm sitting :( |
| 14:57.42 | chouimat | prpplague: ? |
| 15:04.12 | prpplague | chouimat: down systems this morning |
| 15:06.20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you're still in Texas? |
| 15:06.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 15:06.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: leave for seattle wed. |
| 15:11.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: sounds like a good time |
| 15:35.32 | prpplague | ha, sieve is telling me the SCO dot DoS'd |
| 15:35.37 | prpplague | s/dot/got |
| 15:35.49 | chouimat | prpplague: yup ... |
| 15:35.54 | TomW | morning all |
| 15:35.58 | chouimat | hi TomW |
| 15:36.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the SCO - as in a SCO box that you own, or the SCO as in the main company? |
| 15:42.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sco the company |
| 15:42.59 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hah |
| 16:02.13 | chouimat | prpplague: got an email with the subject: Regarding your application ... was spam :( |
| 16:09.33 | chouimat | wow! the cad is at 0.707964usd now |
| 16:14.31 | CosmicPenguin | thats sad for the US dollar.... :( |
| 16:14.52 | kergoth`zzz | ibot: monday |
| 16:14.53 | | i guess monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems it takes you until friday to get back to normal. a good reason to want to go out and kill people, or a day that no work should be performed due to this phenomenon |
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| 16:21.54 | chouimat | kergoth: good morning |
| 16:32.56 | CosmicPenguin | How many dumb people does it take to install a Ipaq bootloader? |
| 16:33.50 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: 0 because they don't know what an ipaq is .... well some will think is some country of the middle-east ... |
| 16:35.47 | mallum | kergoth: hey there mr, is there something up with config.in files in current builroot ? |
| 16:41.05 | CosmicPenguin | What kind of POS desktop doesn't come with a serial port? |
| 16:41.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: got a FLTK ipk handy |
| 16:41.35 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 16:43.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: let me check |
| 16:43.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: probably old |
| 16:43.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats that about a POS? |
| 16:48.25 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Scott's desktop doesn't have a serial port, for the love of crumbcake |
| 16:48.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what? |
| 16:49.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that hp? |
| 16:49.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sure it does |
| 16:49.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: his Windoze laptop - I think his Linux one does |
| 16:50.20 | CosmicPenguin | I am truely sorry if we have reached the point where serial ports are no longer included on a PC |
| 16:51.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya, alot of the toshiba's don't come with laptops |
| 16:51.39 | prpplague | serial ports |
| 16:51.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we use usb to serial cables |
| 16:52.05 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: and parallel port will follow soon |
| 16:52.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, but its the principal of the thing |
| 16:52.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 16:52.49 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: yep - can't flash a JTAG with Firewire, thats for sure... :) |
| 16:53.25 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: maybe you can if you do a firewire - jtag adapter :) |
| 16:53.39 | prpplague | TomW: hey did you look at the specs for that small tft posted on the ohw-list? |
| 16:54.17 | TomW | yeah |
| 16:54.45 | prpplague | TomW: what kinda trouble would it be to get that running on arm? |
| 16:55.03 | chouimat | tft? |
| 16:56.12 | TomW | I haven't really looked at the manual to see how to program the lcd controller. I did look, but the impression I got was that it would take me some serious studying of the manual to do that.. |
| 16:56.56 | prpplague | TomW: ya, i've been struggling with the lcd portion of sa-11x0 for awhile |
| 16:57.47 | prpplague | TomW: i've been able to recreate the work for the tuxscreen lcd, but not get a different lcd working from scratch |
| 17:04.09 | TomW | prpplague: I have the 7.8" color STN display (www.earthlcd.com) that I would like to try out with a Tux CPU. I have a connnector for the FPC cable, I just have to order the FPC cable from someplace, eventually... |
| 17:07.06 | CosmicPenguin | News from the land of VIA: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/display/20030502054316.html |
| 17:07.25 | CosmicPenguin | and http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/chipsets/display/20030430005304.html |
| 17:46.38 | Russ | prpplague: you just have to read through the docs, and all the LCD defines |
| 17:46.55 | Russ | the sa11x0 kernel lcd stuff does a lot of work "for" you |
| 17:47.57 | Russ | wonder how long the process of getting the "unicrome2" working with linux will be |
| 18:00.21 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 18:01.49 | chouimat | prpplague: got time to play with the GP32? |
| 18:03.37 | chouimat | cool a beer truck just outside my window ..... that just gave me an idea |
| 18:04.55 | prpplague | Russ: agreed, however the docs seem to assume you understand what alot of the abreviations are |
| 18:05.15 | prpplague | chouimat: negative, i just got the jtag soldered together |
| 18:05.19 | prpplague | chouimat: but thats it |
| 18:05.25 | prpplague | chouimat: been playing with blob |
| 18:05.58 | chouimat | prpplague: ok , I'm peting Bob ...right now |
| 18:06.17 | prpplague | mmmmm.....tamales |
| 18:06.48 | Russ | prpplague: whats up with your reverse btw? |
| 18:07.03 | chouimat | A Mexican dish made of crushed maize mixed with minced meat, |
| 18:07.03 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.10 | prpplague | Russ: my reverse? |
| 18:07.26 | Russ | chouimat: you copied and pasted that, and its not even "right" |
| 18:07.38 | Russ | it *could* have that in it |
| 18:08.16 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: lol |
| 18:08.18 | Russ | 9.134.148.12.in-addr.arpa |
| 18:08.47 | prpplague | Russ: ohh, who knows, we have a winblows sysadmin, and the net connection is maintained by at&t |
| 18:08.56 | Russ | good combo |
| 18:08.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ouch |
| 18:09.00 | chouimat | Russ: look ... here too we have disgusting meal |
| 18:09.21 | prpplague | Russ: i stopped trying to help them get it strait years ago |
| 18:09.37 | Russ | chouimat: you just don't get it |
| 18:09.46 | prpplague | lol |
| 18:09.48 | chouimat | nope |
| 18:09.59 | Russ | gdict isn't usefull for this |
| 18:10.15 | chouimat | kdict in my case |
| 18:11.23 | Russ | http://www.tamalefestival.org/recipes.htm |
| 18:11.48 | Russ | "... and wrapped in a softened CORN HUSK. This package is then tied and steamed until the dough is cooked through." |
| 18:11.58 | Russ | thats what makes it a tamale |
| 18:12.29 | chouimat | yurk la pellure du mais |
| 18:12.41 | Russ | you don't eat the husk |
| 18:13.10 | Russ | your problem is that you've probably never had decent mexican food |
| 18:13.21 | prpplague | chouimat: and if you go south of the border, you usually don't know what kind of meat is in there |
| 18:13.28 | chouimat | Russ: look I'm 1000 miless away |
| 18:13.37 | Russ | prpplague: its like that in a lot of countries |
| 18:13.45 | chouimat | prpplague: ok like chinese food here :) |
| 18:13.52 | prpplague | kergoth will get a chance to try some good tex-mex soon |
| 18:14.05 | Russ | prpplague: my gf went to korea with her family, and opened up a can of whoop-ass on a few resteraunt owners |
| 18:14.10 | chouimat | prpplague: I'm still praying |
| 18:14.17 | prpplague | Russ: lol |
| 18:14.31 | prpplague | Russ: hmmm, kemshie |
| 18:14.42 | Russ | I don't understand that stuff |
| 18:14.52 | prpplague | Russ: kemshie? |
| 18:14.55 | Russ | ya |
| 18:15.06 | prpplague | Russ: fun stuff |
| 18:15.07 | chouimat | prpplague: here we're not sure if KFC serve Seagull instead of chicken |
| 18:15.16 | Russ | hahah |
| 18:16.03 | chouimat | one of my friend like to try "Regiona" McDonald stuff |
| 18:16.26 | prpplague | chouimat: anyway, i'm headed to seattle wed. then back the following wed. then the next day to barbados and coming bad the following thursday, then the next day leaving for honduras |
| 18:16.29 | Russ | regiona? |
| 18:16.51 | chouimat | regional ... can't type today |
| 18:16.59 | prpplague | chouimat: coming back the following sunday, and then to st.kitts |
| 18:17.10 | chouimat | wow |
| 18:17.10 | prpplague | chouimat: so my next few weeks are kinda booked |
| 18:17.19 | Russ | still, what is "reginal mcdonald" |
| 18:17.27 | Russ | I can't spell either |
| 18:17.37 | prpplague | Russ: they have local specialities |
| 18:17.49 | Russ | mcdonalds is already bad enough |
| 18:17.50 | chouimat | Russ: like Mc Farmer in Switzerland ... pork instead of beef |
| 18:17.54 | prpplague | Russ: like the mcdonalds and kfc's in the caribean sell roti's |
| 18:20.44 | chouimat | or the McKroket in Holland ... kind of beef stew hamburger |
| 18:21.12 | CosmicPenguin | McKroket? Sounds like a fake Scottish name that you would put on a survey form |
| 18:21.20 | CosmicPenguin | Kinda like Phil McCrackin |
| 18:21.24 | Russ | in-n-out needs to spread far and wide |
| 18:21.32 | Russ | mcdonalds would go under |
| 18:21.48 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: I doubt it - McDonalds knows their audience |
| 18:22.11 | Russ | they wouldn't have any employees |
| 18:22.14 | CosmicPenguin | They are easily the 3rd or 4th national chain in terms of quality, but always #1 in terms of visitors |
| 18:22.18 | chouimat | I want to see the Mc Kiev Chicken ... |
| 18:22.35 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: I don't know if thats true where there are a good number of in-n-outs |
| 18:22.47 | CosmicPenguin | But they finally lost money last quarter - so maybe the karma is changing |
| 18:24.06 | chouimat | ~karma chouimat |
| 18:24.06 | | chouimat has neutral karma |
| 18:24.32 | Russ | ~karma ibot |
| 18:24.32 | | ibot has neutral karma |
| 18:24.41 | CosmicPenguin | ~karma mcdonalds |
| 18:24.41 | | mcdonalds has neutral karma |
| 18:24.48 | CosmicPenguin | mcdonalds-- |
| 18:24.54 | Russ | mcdonalds-- |
| 18:25.09 | chouimat | asthon++ |
| 18:25.18 | Russ | asthon?? |
| 18:25.18 | chouimat | ~karma asthon |
| 18:25.18 | | asthon has neutral karma |
| 18:25.22 | CosmicPenguin | hah |
| 18:25.31 | CosmicPenguin | That'll learn you to flood |
| 18:25.33 | Russ | ~karma mcdonalds |
| 18:25.33 | | mcdonalds has neutral karma |
| 18:25.43 | Russ | ~karma |
| 18:25.43 | | russ has neutral karma |
| 18:26.02 | chouimat | Russ: a nice local fast food chain in Quebec City ... roast beef sandwish and poutine |
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| 18:26.09 | chouimat | hi tim |
| 18:26.15 | Russ | chouimat: arbyish |
| 18:26.41 | chouimat | Russ: yup but arby's closed in Quebec City :( |
| 18:26.52 | Russ | well congrats to asthon then |
| 18:27.00 | chouimat | just like Wendy's |
| 18:28.43 | chouimat | Russ: here people go to the restaurant the first 2 years and after that they're back to their old place |
| 18:34.27 | chouimat | http://www.thesaguaros.com/products/dbtoyfs/ |
| 18:37.43 | chouimat | In theory Communism works Marge but only in theory ... - Homer Simpsons |
| 18:38.20 | chouimat | Russ: cactii :) |
| 18:38.29 | Russ | no, how to pronounce it |
| 18:38.47 | chouimat | Russ: sagaro? |
| 18:38.58 | Russ | heh |
| 18:39.08 | Russ | ok, try this on, fajita |
| 18:39.20 | chouimat | fa-i-ta |
| 18:40.13 | Russ | "quesadilla" |
| 18:40.27 | chouimat | quezadilla :) |
| 18:40.40 | Russ | "cholla" |
| 18:40.49 | chouimat | ? |
| 18:41.02 | Russ | (its another kind of cactus) |
| 18:41.19 | chouimat | Russ: cholla |
| 18:41.31 | Russ | ya, you wouldn't last 5 minutes |
| 18:42.04 | chouimat | Russ: ok so ... where I get the correct pronounciation |
| 18:42.20 | Russ | they are all spanish words |
| 18:42.24 | Russ | ll=y |
| 18:42.29 | Russ | j=h |
| 18:42.36 | Russ | fa-hi-tah |
| 18:42.49 | Russ | choa-ya |
| 18:42.58 | chouimat | Russ: never did spanish in school |
| 18:43.08 | Russ | also, g very different in saguaro |
| 18:43.34 | Russ | su-war-row |
| 18:43.56 | Russ | I just live here |
| 18:44.13 | Russ | its really funny going to a mexican restaurant with some people from back east |
| 18:44.19 | prpplague | Russ: lol |
| 18:44.42 | Russ | "yes, I'd like a faJita and a quaosadiLLa" |
| 18:44.45 | chouimat | Russ: thanks |
| 18:45.15 | Russ | don't worry chouimat, I'm sure I'd butcher anything french |
| 18:45.49 | chouimat | Russ: it's also funny to see american to order some quebec cuisine |
| 18:46.04 | chouimat | Russ: how do you pronounce : Ragout de Boulette? |
| 18:46.05 | prpplague | anyone know the url to search packages for familiar? |
| 18:46.25 | Russ | with out the last letters |
| 18:46.33 | prpplague | row da boolay |
| 18:46.37 | Russ | ette is like "eh" |
| 18:47.12 | chouimat | prpplague: better than some Ontarian ... they asked for a Ragoutte de Poulette |
| 18:47.47 | Russ | chouimat: you guys could save a lot of typing if you just dropped all the silent letters in spellings too |
| 18:48.08 | file | hey all |
| 18:48.20 | chouimat | Russ: yup |
| 18:49.45 | chouimat | hey file |
| 18:52.50 | chouimat | damn I'm out of beer |
| 18:53.40 | prpplague | chouimat: thats terrible |
| 18:53.59 | Russ | especially today |
| 18:54.08 | chouimat | Russ: why? |
| 18:54.20 | file | because it's Monday |
| 18:54.45 | Russ | its cinco do fucking mayo |
| 18:54.47 | chouimat | file my calendar tell me that today is the Cinco dee Mayo |
| 18:55.06 | chouimat | but I don't what it eat in winter |
| 18:55.23 | Russ | does it actually say "dee"? |
| 18:56.01 | chouimat | Russ: nah! I have some problem with mmy keyboard some keys are too sensible and other are not |
| 18:56.28 | chouimat | Russ: religion? |
| 18:56.47 | Russ | no, cinco de mayo == 5th of may |
| 18:57.18 | Russ | mexican defealt of french army at the "batalla de Puebla" |
| 18:58.01 | chouimat | Russ: ok ... but anyway name a nation that the french beat in a war ? |
| 18:58.40 | Russ | mexico |
| 18:58.50 | Russ | mexico eventually lost the war |
| 18:59.14 | Russ | the french have a long, successful, military *past* |
| 19:00.15 | chouimat | Russ: some of my fellow Quebecer still think that the England (and the rest of canada) still want to fuck us ... but I know that all canadian provinces have the same problems Ottawa :) |
| 19:00.36 | Russ | I'm betting its mainly a language barrier |
| 19:03.13 | chouimat | Russ: yup ... I know some people who abandon some university class because the textbook were in english ( they are in CS and don't know and don't want to learn english) |
| 19:04.05 | chouimat | Russ: so I imagine that today is an holyday in US? |
| 19:04.48 | CosmicPenguin | holy day? |
| 19:05.04 | CosmicPenguin | Its the feast of maximum occupancy... :) |
| 19:05.20 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ok conge ferier if you prefer :) |
| 19:05.26 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: I don |
| 19:05.36 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: Cinco de Mayo isn't an official US holiday |
| 19:06.08 | Russ | basically, anywhere within 500 miles of the us-mexican border |
| 19:06.14 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ok |
| 19:06.22 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: do any states have it as an official holiday? |
| 19:06.26 | Russ | I doubt it |
| 19:06.38 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: Or do most people just take a floating holiday if they celebrate? |
| 19:06.54 | Russ | I don't think anyone would take it off |
| 19:07.09 | Russ | they just won't show up for work/class till about 4 in the afternoon on the 6th |
| 19:07.30 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: btw I try to get a day off for the feast of maximum occupancy ... but my boss watched that simpsons episodes :( |
| 19:07.40 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: doh |
| 19:07.52 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: worth a try any way |
| 19:08.04 | chouimat | file: ping |
| 19:09.10 | file | pong |
| 19:09.39 | chouimat | file: do you know that some people want to have the ST-patrick an official canadian holiday |
| 19:10.02 | Russ | chouimat: aren't there a lot of irish in canada? |
| 19:10.08 | file | chouimat: LOL |
| 19:10.09 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I gave my resignation about 4 weeks later |
| 19:10.13 | file | interesting |
| 19:10.14 | chouimat | Russ: yup ... |
| 19:10.31 | Russ | so then it would make sense |
| 19:10.50 | chouimat | file: and Paul Martin said that can be a possibilty since we don't have any holiday in March |
| 19:11.15 | Russ | wait, by official, do you mean government workers get the day off? |
| 19:11.24 | chouimat | yes |
| 19:11.29 | Russ | oh, screw that |
| 19:11.38 | chouimat | Russ: and by extension every of us ... |
| 19:11.46 | Russ | I'm not going to have my trash not get picked up just because its a holiday |
| 19:11.54 | chouimat | lol |
| 19:11.58 | Russ | chouimat: you can't work on official holidays? |
| 19:12.19 | chouimat | Russ: that not a problem here ... march is still below zero celsius :) |
| 19:12.30 | Russ | that would be a bunch of crap |
| 19:12.52 | Russ | here, most companies have a subset of holidays that goverment workers have, but then give you vacation days you can choose |
| 19:12.52 | chouimat | Russ: I'm self employed so I work when I have contracts ... and now it's pretty quiet |
| 19:13.35 | chouimat | and I'm dreaming of a place without snow and without 15 feet flies in summer |
| 19:13.54 | Russ | that'd be here |
| 19:14.33 | chouimat | Russ: flies get huge here ... I got one in my appartment last year and I called it Rex |
| 19:14.46 | Russ | http://www.weather.com/weather/local/85281?lswe=85281&lwsa=WeatherLocalUndeclared |
| 19:15.14 | Russ | and if you miss the snow in the winter, its only a 2 hour drive away |
| 19:16.34 | chouimat | Russ: wait I need to convert it ... |
| 19:16.42 | file | ooh, next Enterprise episode deals with the Borg |
| 19:16.47 | Russ | I thought I sent it in C |
| 19:16.58 | chouimat | Russ: nice |
| 19:17.31 | chouimat | Russ: it's 13C currently here ...55F |
| 19:19.14 | prpplague | chouimat: 81f here |
| 19:19.34 | prpplague | chouimat: very cool for this time of year |
| 19:21.04 | chouimat | prpplague: I'm searchiong my sunglasses even if I'n inside a fucking moron parked his car in front on my windows and I have the reflection directly in my eyes |
| 19:23.37 | chouimat | and here goes another electro-magnetic induction car |
| 19:25.50 | chouimat | prpplague: 81F is 27.7777C and it's pretty hot for here |
| 19:26.04 | file | let me go check the temperature |
| 19:26.28 | file | 70F here |
| 19:26.44 | prpplague | chouimat: it'll be 105F by the end of july |
| 19:26.54 | chouimat | file: a perfect will be a place at about 23C all year long |
| 19:27.01 | file | :) |
| 19:27.24 | chouimat | prpplague: you don't get -40 in winter |
| 19:27.26 | Russ | chouimat: I would imagine a place like that would hawe a lot of insects |
| 19:27.39 | chouimat | Russ: that too |
| 19:27.41 | Russ | chouimat: you never get 50c in the summer |
| 19:28.04 | prpplague | chouimat: we had only about 10 days below 0C this year |
| 19:28.23 | chouimat | prpplague: ok I got about 3 weeks aat -43C |
| 19:29.06 | prpplague | chouimat: have to keep it cold up there to prevent the vegatable heads from spoiling :) |
| 19:29.41 | chouimat | prpplague: what I spend in heat you spend in air cooling :)) |
| 19:30.01 | prpplague | argh, none of my old isa pcmcia adapters work with newer kernels |
| 19:30.20 | Russ | prpplague: you mean management? |
| 19:30.27 | chouimat | Russ: lol |
| 19:31.00 | prpplague | Russ: ya something like that |
| 19:31.49 | prpplague | Russ: i think if i could just get one lcd working properly, i'd have it made |
| 19:32.11 | Russ | it'll come to you |
| 19:32.28 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
| 19:34.07 | chouimat | prpplague: btw my cat really like thought part2 of spock's beard :) |
| 19:37.36 | prpplague | sorphin: you get your z back up? |
| 19:42.19 | sorphin | prpplague: ages ago |
| 19:42.32 | sorphin | prpplague: i've been waiting to be Pixil'd now |
| 19:44.47 | chouimat | grrrr I'm out of beer |
| 19:46.30 | chouimat | prpplague: just found out that I have a nice pack 4 bottle of dutch beer |
| 19:46.46 | Russ | chouimat: bad weather for driving to the store? |
| 19:47.08 | chouimat | Russ: I will walk .... don't have a car |
| 19:47.15 | Russ | bummer |
| 19:47.28 | chouimat | Russ: and driving licence |
| 19:48.56 | chouimat | prpplague: http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBrewer.asp?BrewerID=780 |
| 19:49.14 | chouimat | I have the blond, dubbel,triple and quadupel |
| 19:49.45 | chouimat | sorphin: food |
| 19:49.47 | chouimat | :) |
| 19:54.13 | chouimat | hmmm a 10% beer |
| 19:59.28 | sorphin | they're even |
| 20:00.55 | prpplague | interesing, mallum's x image causes my z not to resume |
| 20:01.51 | chouimat | prpplague: I will test those beer later todaay :) |
| 20:02.04 | prpplague | chouimat: fun |
| 20:02.22 | prpplague | chouimat: would you like a copy of my ratebeer.com app to keep track of your beers? |
| 20:02.40 | chouimat | prpplague: yup Qtopia based? |
| 20:02.44 | prpplague | chouimat: fltk |
| 20:02.44 | chouimat | :) |
| 20:03.16 | chouimat | prpplague: Blond is 6.5%, dubbel -> 6.5%, Triple 8.0%, Quadrupel->10% |
| 20:03.36 | chouimat | and I got the glass to got with them |
| 20:04.52 | chouimat | prpplague: I imagine that they must be cold before serving |
| 20:36.52 | prpplague | ibot: seen mallum |
| 20:36.54 | | mallum <~mallum@pc-80-193-218-21-hw.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 3h 47m 34s ago, saying: 'elhazard: I suspect netbsd hasn't put /usr/X11R6/bin in your path '. |
| 20:57.35 | chouimat | white castles? |
| 21:00.32 | sorphin | chouimat: you poor naive french canuck ;) |
| 21:01.00 | chouimat | sorphin: ? |
| 21:02.08 | sorphin | chouimat: www.whitecastle.com |
| 21:03.06 | chouimat | ok |
| 21:13.20 | prpplague | sorphin: eww, i wouldn't feed whitecastle to my dog |
| 21:13.51 | prpplague | sorphin: i think i'd rather have cat tamales than whitecastle |
| 21:14.56 | sorphin | prpplague: so go eat cat tamales :P |
| 21:18.32 | chouimat | guys can you stop talking about seagull kfc sandwich or chinese food |
| 21:21.23 | sorphin | huh? |
| 21:21.41 | sorphin | chouimat: go.. do something |
| 21:24.50 | chouimat | sorphin: ok |
| 21:31.35 | file | well great... I broke my Windows install |
| 21:32.51 | sorphin | good |
| 21:33.23 | sieve | windows? wtf? |
| 21:33.34 | file | sieve: on my laptop |
| 21:33.58 | sieve | again I say... windows? etf? |
| 21:34.00 | sieve | wtf? |
| 21:34.13 | file | sieve: it's a 133MHz system with no L2 cache and only 40MB of RAM |
| 21:34.48 | file | plus there's no driver for my PCMCIA Wireless NIC |
| 21:34.48 | sieve | file: put gentoo on it.. :) |
| 21:34.54 | glytchbinary | lol |
| 21:34.57 | kergoth | s/gentoo/debian/; |
| 21:35.02 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:35.09 | file | then how would I use my wireless NIC?!?!?!? |
| 21:35.09 | scanline | RedHat 3.0! |
| 21:35.14 | sieve | kergoth: don't like gentoo? |
| 21:35.27 | sorphin | sice: umm |
| 21:35.31 | sorphin | gentoo sucks ass |
| 21:35.37 | file | I use Gentoo! |
| 21:35.43 | prpplague | oh man, here goes the flames |
| 21:35.47 | kergoth | sieve: gentoo's source build tools are amazing, but as a distro, i prefer debian |
| 21:35.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:35.55 | kergoth | distro wars are fun |
| 21:36.01 | scanline | what's wrong with gentoo? |
| 21:36.03 | scanline | :P |
| 21:36.08 | sieve | hmm.. I use both gentoo and deb... |
| 21:36.11 | levi | Yay Debian! |
| 21:36.22 | scanline | sieve: same here, though lately I've been wanting to switch the debian machine to gentoo :) |
| 21:36.36 | kergoth | gentoo's sysv init script system blows. good concept, bad implementation |
| 21:36.41 | kergoth | little things like that piss me off |
| 21:36.43 | prpplague | kergoth: only if you like cross dress and walking into a biker bar called mom's place |
| 21:36.53 | prpplague | kergoth: not my idea of fun |
| 21:36.54 | file | there... scandisk fixed all my problems |
| 21:36.57 | kergoth | heheh |
| 21:37.15 | file | (I hate to say that) |
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| 21:37.38 | scanline | file: scandisk got you a faster computer, a girlfriend, and your own apartment? |
| 21:37.46 | prpplague | argh, looks like my barbados trip is gonna get cancelled |
| 21:37.47 | sieve | lol |
| 21:37.48 | scanline | I gotta try that... |
| 21:37.52 | file | prpplague: why? |
| 21:37.54 | sorphin | scanline: he's too young for all of that |
| 21:38.09 | scanline | sorphin: heheh.. wishful thinking on my part, I guess |
| 21:38.12 | sorphin | scanline: linux won't get you that either :P |
| 21:38.13 | prpplague | ahh, good, only pushed back to the 31st |
| 21:38.31 | sorphin | scanline: i only use linux cuz it works for wht i need it for, nothing else |
| 21:38.55 | scanline | sorphin: why else would you use it? |
| 21:39.32 | sorphin | scanline: ask that of these linux evangalists, etc |
| 21:39.54 | scanline | :) |
| 21:40.27 | prpplague | sorphin: because i hate m$ and everything it stands for? |
| 21:40.38 | prpplague | sorphin: because i want to be part of something bigger |
| 21:40.54 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i hate M$ too, but there are still a lot of things linux can't handle worth a damn |
| 21:41.05 | prpplague | sorphin: because i want to share what i learn instead of hord it like a midevil monk |
| 21:41.06 | scanline | prpplague: that's free software in general, not linux... you could do the same thing with the HURD :) |
| 21:41.15 | prpplague | scanline: agreed |
| 21:41.20 | sorphin | prpplague: get off the soapbox dave |
| 21:41.36 | prpplague | scanline: just so happens i feel linux is where i can make the best contribution |
| 21:41.45 | sorphin | kergoth: thanks |
| 21:41.45 | scanline | prpplague: probably |
| 21:42.15 | prpplague | sorry for preaching to the choir |
| 21:42.49 | prpplague | if you grew up in a technology waste land like east texas, you'd really appreciate the fact that ppl in the OS community share what they learn |
| 21:43.03 | sorphin | prpplague: heh |
| 21:43.23 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm watching someone having to give up 'all they learned' cuz of lawyers atm :P |
| 21:43.50 | file | WELL - I figured out what went wrong... |
| 21:43.55 | prpplague | sorphin: nda's? |
| 21:44.06 | file | apparently Windows couldn't handle deleting 250MB in small files |
| 21:44.35 | sorphin | prpplague: nope |
| 21:45.55 | prpplague | sorphin: alien implanted devices? |
| 21:47.22 | sorphin | prpplague: keep your anal probes out of this |
| 21:47.29 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:48.18 | sorphin | prpplague: hey, you're the one that said you spread it for abcsinc |
| 21:49.14 | prpplague | sorphin: but i never sign anything that would create a problem with the code |
| 21:49.25 | prpplague | sorphin: no nda's or IP docs |
| 21:49.44 | sorphin | this didn't involve signing anything |
| 21:50.24 | prpplague | sorphin: really? |
| 21:50.39 | prpplague | sorphin: what did he do? |
| 21:51.15 | Russ | why do the ata people make docs so much mor difficult than they need to be |
| 21:51.29 | Russ | they show active low signals in timing diagrams as active high |
| 21:51.44 | sorphin | Russ: heh |
| 21:55.40 | CosmicPenguin | Looks like I missed a fun discussion |
| 21:56.26 | Russ | microsoft needs an information minister |
| 21:56.28 | file | I wear the cheese, it does not wear me. |
| 21:56.44 | Russ | li"linux has not penetrated the server market..." |
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| 22:05.05 | sorphin | GPSFan: evening |
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| 22:40.57 | *** part/#elinux scanline (micah@aden2-42-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 23:07.23 | GPSFan | sorphin: Hi dan. yeah, I guess it's evening. ;>) |
| 23:07.47 | kergoth | ibot: monday |
| 23:07.47 | | monday is, like, when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems it takes you until friday to get back to normal. a good reason to want to go out and kill people, or a day that no work should be performed due to this phenomenon |
| 23:08.05 | GPSFan | kergoth: evening.. |
| 23:08.18 | kergoth | hey |
| 23:09.15 | legodude | heya all |
| 23:18.48 | MonMotha | how did everyone load linux onto their webpal? |
| 23:18.59 | MonMotha | I can't get the utils I have to work |
| 23:24.27 | Russ | did you remember that the serial port is 3.3V levels? |
| 23:24.34 | GPSFan | MonMotha: I used gdb to load the bootloader, then used wpflash to load the params and the kernel. the params point to either a cf disk, a pcmcia hdd or nfs root. had them all working. |
| 23:25.31 | sorphin | GPSFan: the probes work ok |
| 23:25.49 | MonMotha | yeah, that's what I can't get working :) |
| 23:26.21 | MonMotha | Russ: it is? I certainly had the serial port at least somewhat working using a standard MAX232 at 5V (GDB synced up and everything, but the upload didn't succeede) |
| 23:26.29 | MonMotha | Russ: are you thinking of the tux perhaps? |
| 23:26.31 | GPSFan | MonMotha: depending on your serial port chip you may need to cut jp1 to get anything to work at all. theere is interaction with the IR. |
| 23:26.38 | MonMotha | already cut said jumper |
| 23:26.58 | GPSFan | MonMotha: do you get the easy-rider sign-on? |
| 23:26.59 | Russ | er, ya, it might be 5V |
| 23:27.08 | Russ | just maing sure you weren't connecting it straight |
| 23:27.23 | GPSFan | sorphin: glad to hear it. btw did you see the stuff tim posted about the dct5k? |
| 23:27.27 | MonMotha | GPSFan: yup |
| 23:27.53 | MonMotha | now if only I could find my level shifter steup |
| 23:27.56 | MonMotha | might need to build it again |
| 23:28.57 | MonMotha | yup, gunna have to rebuild it, oh well...takes 5 mintues or so |
| 23:29.21 | sorphin | GPSFan: yes |
| 23:30.14 | jacques | when did CF get so cheap? 1GB for < $250 ? |
| 23:31.18 | GPSFan | sorphin: a lot of what he posted on http://rikers.org/dct5000/ doesn't seem to be related to the dct5k, but the binary image looks like it has a kernel in it. |
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| 23:32.09 | sorphin | GPSFan: nod |
| 23:32.11 | jacques | there's new info on the dct5000 ? |
| 23:32.16 | sorphin | jacques: um.. that's not new |
| 23:32.17 | jacques | I have been away too long |
| 23:32.31 | sorphin | i pointed out 1G CF for cheap ages ago |
| 23:32.32 | kergoth | hey jacques |
| 23:32.36 | sorphin | and on pricewatch |
| 23:32.44 | sorphin | 512M for < $100 |
| 23:32.45 | jacques | sorphin: yeah but I thought that was 512MB |
| 23:33.09 | jacques | sorphin: the 1GB had been commanding a premium until recently I thought |
| 23:33.38 | jacques | even Fry's has 512MB on same for like $110 now :-o |
| 23:34.06 | sorphin | no |
| 23:34.09 | glytchbinary | what is a dct5k? |
| 23:34.38 | jacques | so it looks like there is kernel code for the dct5k, but do we know how to get the kernel loaded yet? |
| 23:36.00 | GPSFan | jacques: looks like we need to burn a new boot rom, or figure out how to jtag a secondary bootloader into the flash and run it from the rom bootloader. |
| 23:39.24 | sorphin | GPSFan: or replace teh rom w/ flash in the same config |
| 23:39.50 | jacques | at least that chip is socketted :-\ |
| 23:40.07 | sorphin | nod.. |
| 23:40.26 | GPSFan | sorphin: that would work too. or replace the rom with a "rom emulator" (sram) that could be loaded via some other measn. |
| 23:40.44 | GPSFan | s/measn/means |
| 23:40.44 | sorphin | GPSFan: flash could be too |
| 23:40.54 | sorphin | and is cheaper than sram prolly |
| 23:40.57 | GPSFan | sorphin: yep |
| 23:41.24 | GPSFan | sorphin: I'm just thinking about what I've got kicking around that I might use. |
| 23:42.15 | jacques | starting to sound like a mod chip |
| 23:42.32 | sorphin | jacques: ;) |
| 23:47.20 | MonMotha | there's a possible flash equivilent of the mask ROM noted in the DCT5k wiki |
| 23:48.00 | GPSFan | MonMotha: yep, I've been trying to find a source, no luck yet. |
| 23:49.09 | MonMotha | I've noticed Macronix doesn't seem to give samples :( |
| 23:49.41 | MonMotha | I've got a place around here that guarantees they will find any part you need, though you'll pay for it |
