| 00:14.56 | sorphin | nod |
| 00:17.05 | glytchbinary | what are you having |
| 00:17.23 | chouimat|food | poutine |
| 00:17.31 | glytchbinary | what the hell is that |
| 00:17.54 | chouimat|food | glytchbinary: hehe fine Quebec cuisine : French fries, cheese and gravy |
| 00:18.26 | chouimat|food | sorry Freedom fries :) |
| 00:20.13 | glytchbinary | hrm |
| 00:20.20 | chouimat|food | glytchbinary: and tomorrow i think the menu will be "escargots a l'oriental" :) |
| 00:20.38 | glytchbinary | i'm going to have, steak, velveeta shells and cheese, blueberry muffins, and something else i dunno |
| 00:20.42 | glytchbinary | whenever i get around to cooking |
| 00:20.45 | glytchbinary | whats that? |
| 00:21.09 | chouimat|food | glytchbinary: very easy to recipes: Ramen soup and snails :) |
| 00:21.20 | glytchbinary | eew |
| 00:21.24 | chouimat|food | lol |
| 00:21.29 | glytchbinary | i'll take ramen noodles, you can keep the snails |
| 00:22.31 | chouimat|food | glytchbinary: hehe ... sorry that the french side of being a french canadian :) |
| 00:32.38 | jacques | mmmm escargot |
| 00:33.17 | jacques | i mhungry |
| 00:36.18 | chouimat|food | jacques: hehe ... try them with garlic,ginger,soy sauce and sake :) |
| 00:38.12 | sorphin | GPSFan: oh btw, solderd both those boards up the night i got em, thanks :) |
| 00:39.03 | jacques | chouimat|food: now you are making me even more hungry |
| 00:39.44 | jacques | i think I should go get food |
| 00:42.19 | GPSFan | sorphin: did you use your microscope to do it? |
| 00:43.12 | sorphin | GPSFan: no |
| 00:43.17 | sorphin | not small enough ;) |
| 00:43.29 | sorphin | i am gonna double check it w/ it tho |
| 00:43.37 | sorphin | the new base shows up tomorrow |
| 00:44.33 | chouimat|food | jacques: hehe |
| 00:45.23 | GPSFan | ah, I used mine, I still don't think I have all the right software changes for the second port, I can cat stuff to it, and it comes out at the right baud rate. I can put a gtty on it and log in ok, but I'm having problems with an ap tryong to open it. keeps getting some sort or error, I guess it's time for gdb. |
| 00:46.16 | sorphin | yeah |
| 00:54.55 | sorphin | GPSFan: i hope this scope (the O scope) lasts me a long time |
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| 01:43.42 | prpplague | argh, where's mallum when you need him |
| 01:43.51 | prpplague | probably off watching PotA |
| 01:46.27 | sorphin | PotA? |
| 01:46.31 | file | prpplague: 'night |
| 01:46.44 | prpplague | sorphin: Planet of the Apes |
| 01:46.49 | prpplague | sorphin: he's a big collector |
| 01:48.03 | sorphin | oh |
| 01:51.29 | sorphin | never cared for it |
| 01:52.01 | prpplague | sorphin: didn't figure you would, you don't seem the sci-fi cult fanatic |
| 01:54.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:54.40 | sorphin | just differing scifi taste |
| 02:07.10 | chouimat | damn tv is boringg tonight |
| 02:21.58 | prpplague | chouimat: you wanna work on these broke raid arrays for me? |
| 02:22.09 | chouimat | where? |
| 02:23.43 | prpplague | one in nassau the other in jamaica |
| 02:24.06 | chouimat | sorry don't have any work permit |
| 02:24.58 | CosmicPenguin | What do you need a work permit for? Just work, man... |
| 02:27.07 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: he would also need permission from the canadian drive array union |
| 02:27.14 | Russ | (workers union) |
| 02:28.45 | prpplague | chouimat: lol |
| 02:28.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gotta watch those permits |
| 02:29.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you don't wanna be spending time in a jamaican prison |
| 02:30.30 | jacques | i have heard jamaica is hard core |
| 02:31.37 | prpplague | jacques: prisons? |
| 02:36.17 | jacques | i heard they are very strict in enforcing their laws which are also very strict |
| 02:36.18 | chouimat | this is a good beer, I got my sinus cleaned |
| 02:36.25 | CosmicPenguin | Well, bob Marley does have alot of angst |
| 02:37.03 | jacques | they are always putting cruisers in prison for having firearms on their boats (I hear) |
| 02:38.13 | prpplague | ya you have to be real careful with customs and such |
| 02:38.40 | prpplague | jacques: locals if caught with marajuana get a dollar fine, tourists its usually 7 days in jail |
| 02:39.01 | chouimat | mmmm marijuana .. |
| 02:39.30 | jacques | prpplague: can you get away with just a bigger fine? :-) |
| 02:39.37 | jacques | lol $1 |
| 02:40.09 | chouimat | soon to be decriminalise in canada if you have 10 grams or less |
| 02:40.28 | prpplague | jacques: ya they use it as a means of persuading ppl to bribe the police |
| 02:40.47 | jacques | i hear NV was thinking of legalizing it too |
| 02:40.52 | jacques | wa/is |
| 02:41.00 | jacques | was/is |
| 02:41.30 | chouimat | jacques: is there any proof that if you some joint you will get into crack later? |
| 02:42.32 | jacques | chouimat: I don't believe that |
| 02:42.51 | jacques | most studies I have seen appear to be flawed |
| 02:42.52 | chouimat | me too |
| 02:43.21 | jacques | at one point in this country alcohol was illegal |
| 02:43.54 | chouimat | jacques: I smoke some joints on occasonal basis and I drink beer and wine daily ... I won't which will kill me |
| 02:43.54 | jacques | I hate th CA ads they are showing now against marijuana |
| 02:44.15 | chouimat | jacques: the girl that gett rape in a party? |
| 02:44.19 | jacques | yes |
| 02:44.32 | jacques | and they have one with a prgnant teenager |
| 02:44.45 | chouimat | jacques: didn't saw that one ... |
| 02:44.49 | prpplague | w00t! drive rebuild finished |
| 02:44.59 | chouimat | hehe |
| 02:45.12 | jacques | "marijuana impairs judgement" well so does alcohol and we don't let children legally use that either |
| 02:45.21 | prpplague | chouimat: now just 10 more to go |
| 02:45.24 | jacques | but I am an adult |
| 02:45.35 | kergoth | i love that one.. "1 in 3 of reckless drivers pulled over and tested for drugs, tested positive for marajuana" |
| 02:45.55 | kergoth | like thats a normal fucking statistical distribution |
| 02:46.01 | kergoth | absolute crap |
| 02:46.12 | chouimat | prpplague: spock's bear - the light (their first album 1995) 1. The Lightt (15:33) 2. Go the Way you go (12:03) 3. The Water (23:14) 4. On the Edge (6:11) |
| 02:46.18 | jacques | "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics" |
| 02:47.02 | chouimat | kergoth: look do youu know people who get caugght in a fight after smoke some weeds? |
| 02:47.26 | jacques | no lol |
| 02:47.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:47.37 | chouimat | shit the grammar in that sentence sucks |
| 02:47.45 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:48.04 | chouimat | kergoth: see I make progress I can see my errors :) |
| 02:48.05 | kergoth | but I can translate matspeak->english |
| 02:48.08 | kergoth | ;) |
| 02:48.44 | chouimat | kergoth: I'm reading the english grammar since lastt tuesday :) |
| 02:50.20 | chouimat | prpplague: liked the Alas song? |
| 02:50.44 | prpplague | chouimat: hang on, working |
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| 02:57.49 | prpplague | chouimat: ya good stuff |
| 02:58.09 | chouimat | prpplague: nice photo too :) |
| 02:58.18 | prpplague | chouimat: been listening to alot of ambient techno and ambient newage |
| 02:58.22 | prpplague | chouimat: ya nice |
| 02:59.25 | chouimat | prpplague: I'm currently listening to Attention Deficit - The Idiott King - American Jingo |
| 02:59.55 | chouimat | now I need to clean that glass if I want to try another beer |
| 03:00.34 | chouimat | prpplague: some kind of progressive metal with aa very nice touch of jazz in it |
| 03:03.21 | prpplague | chouimat: i tried to get a cd for a local band i went to listen to last week for ya |
| 03:04.04 | prpplague | chouimat: "built for speed" had some nice tunes |
| 03:04.32 | chouimat | prpplague: the dubbel is nice rubby red beer |
| 03:04.59 | prpplague | argh, someone save me, i'm being attacked by the aparment destroying trash collection |
| 03:05.11 | chouimat | huh? |
| 03:05.48 | chouimat | ok the dubbel is a maredsou but with less alcohol and less dark |
| 03:05.55 | prpplague | chouimat: my apartment is dirty |
| 03:06.20 | chouimat | prpplague: mine too,, I will clean it tomorrow |
| 03:06.28 | chouimat | prpplague: expensive apartment? |
| 03:07.23 | chouimat | since my mother is coming thursday ... I will need 2 days to clean it correctly :) |
| 03:07.45 | prpplague | chouimat: clean ratio- when there are more empty_beer_bottles+dirty_glasses>10*clean_dishes then clean_house() |
| 03:07.57 | prpplague | chouimat: $440 |
| 03:08.08 | chouimat | what size? |
| 03:08.09 | prpplague | chouimat: 1025sqfoot |
| 03:08.39 | prpplague | chouimat: 1 bedroom, 1 bath, living room, small office |
| 03:08.45 | prpplague | chouimat: and kitchen |
| 03:09.35 | prpplague | chouimat: i'm gonna have to find a slave soon |
| 03:10.10 | kergoth | 440 for 1025 sq feet? damn |
| 03:10.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:10.20 | chouimat | prpplague: nice price I pay 370+75 CAD for a 2 bedroom (1 office), 1 bath,living room and kitchen but more like 605sqfeet |
| 03:10.25 | prpplague | kergoth: cost of living in this area is low |
| 03:10.36 | prpplague | kergoth: dfw will be a little bit higher |
| 03:10.54 | prpplague | kergoth: probably something like a 750sqft for 500 there |
| 03:11.15 | chouimat | prpplague: yup I saw a website about housing in dallas for 850$ for 2 rooms |
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| 03:11.48 | chouimat | prpplague: doing some planification just in case ;-P |
| 03:15.06 | chouimat | kergoth: http://www.rent.net/ctg/cgi-bin/RentNet/Home |
| 03:16.16 | kergoth | hm, that chicken alfredo pizza from papa johns is good |
| 03:16.42 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yeah, I tried it this weekend |
| 03:16.44 | CosmicPenguin | sure is tasty |
| 03:17.58 | chouimat | hmmm a preview of the forthcoming Iron Maiden album ... |
| 03:21.52 | jacques | i like papa johns |
| 03:22.59 | chouimat | for my information that papa johns is like what here? |
| 03:24.14 | sorphin | chouimat: very good pizza |
| 03:24.15 | jacques | hmm I dunno. Papa John's is a pizza place - takeout/delivery only |
| 03:24.35 | jacques | I think it's my favorite delivery pizza |
| 03:24.43 | sorphin | make's pizza hut look like garbage, in my book |
| 03:24.58 | jacques | and dominoes look like *&$*^% |
| 03:25.03 | chouimat | ok better that Pizza huts or domino or stratos |
| 03:25.10 | chouimat | s/that/than |
| 03:25.18 | sorphin | well, i've worked for dominos |
| 03:25.21 | sorphin | and it doesn't take much ;) |
| 03:25.26 | jacques | lol |
| 03:25.38 | sorphin | jacques: wanna hear a 'war story' from working there? |
| 03:25.51 | jacques | sorphin: sure - I never eat their pizza :-) |
| 03:25.59 | sorphin | so we get this call |
| 03:26.05 | sorphin | for a buncha pizzas, wings, etc |
| 03:26.12 | sorphin | and i go to deliver it |
| 03:26.25 | sorphin | get there, house is quiet, dark, etc |
| 03:26.33 | sorphin | wait around a few, go back to the store |
| 03:26.37 | chouimat | jacques: I knew some good pizza place in Quebec City but since a few year they lost their touch so I now eat Kraft or McCain frozen pizza :( |
| 03:26.43 | sorphin | we get a call, and they're asking where their shit is |
| 03:26.58 | sorphin | tell em we were just there |
| 03:27.15 | sorphin | turns out, it was some stupid teenagers playing a prank on some old lady |
| 03:27.33 | jacques | aaah, little sh*ts |
| 03:27.49 | sorphin | yup |
| 03:28.01 | jacques | i always wondered how delivery places deal with that form of DoS |
| 03:28.18 | sorphin | well |
| 03:28.19 | sorphin | these days |
| 03:28.23 | sorphin | it's easier to avoid |
| 03:28.31 | sorphin | this was in 96/97 |
| 03:28.48 | sorphin | they verify addr/phone # against records and caller id |
| 03:28.55 | sorphin | we didn't have caller id even back then |
| 03:28.59 | jacques | oh yeah papa johns does that |
| 03:29.12 | sorphin | they all do now |
| 03:29.18 | sorphin | we could verify the addr |
| 03:29.22 | sorphin | if it was in our system already |
| 03:29.25 | jacques | i msure they have little notes by the records too like "good tipper" and "a$$hole" |
| 03:29.25 | prpplague | chouimat: drone zone is playing some good stuff tonight |
| 03:29.50 | sorphin | jacques: best normal tip was a few bucks, best tip was $20 from some drunk dude |
| 03:29.58 | sorphin | jacques: worst was either none or change |
| 03:30.12 | sorphin | so anytime i order pizza now |
| 03:30.18 | sorphin | i always tip a $5'er |
| 03:30.22 | sorphin | cuz i know how it is |
| 03:30.29 | sorphin | since i used to be in their shoes |
| 03:30.51 | chouimat | prpplague: ok and tqs is showing a nice pr0n movie ... bb in 1/2 hour |
| 03:31.01 | jacques | yeah I tip well for pizza because I know I will be ordering from them again :-) |
| 03:31.27 | jacques | unfortunately the papa johns near my house closed - not sure why |
| 03:31.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:32.17 | prpplague | chouimat: you scare me |
| 03:32.45 | prpplague | jacques: i always support papa johns |
| 03:32.57 | prpplague | jacques: you know they use gtk-pizza right? |
| 03:33.19 | jacques | i have ordered from theie website several times but I didnt know what they yse |
| 03:33.21 | jacques | use |
| 03:34.16 | chouimat | prpplague: look local tv air porn everynight |
| 03:35.03 | kergoth | papa johns online ordering rocks. |
| 03:35.37 | chouimat | kergoth: started packing? |
| 03:36.00 | prpplague | http://members.iweb.net.au/~steveoc/gtk_pizza/ |
| 03:36.13 | prpplague | kergoth: ya, did it go through or what |
| 03:36.14 | prpplague | ? |
| 03:36.46 | prpplague | kergoth: if you don't take it i will personally drive up there and torture you with some IBM POS units |
| 03:38.56 | kergoth | prpplague: paperwork is in the mail on its way here |
| 03:39.26 | prpplague | kergoth: good |
| 03:39.44 | prpplague | kergoth: i'd had to make you listen to some michael bolten |
| 03:39.49 | prpplague | s/had/hate |
| 03:40.22 | sorphin | prpplague: i always knew you were like that ;p |
| 03:41.22 | prpplague | sorphin: reference to "office space" |
| 03:42.27 | sorphin | uh huh ;) |
| 03:42.42 | sorphin | dave is a lightfoot |
| 03:42.53 | kergoth | why should i change? he's the one that sucks. |
| 03:43.00 | kergoth | i love that movie |
| 03:44.21 | prpplague | kergoth: as do i |
| 03:44.36 | prpplague | kergoth: "what the f is pcloadletter?" |
| 03:44.39 | sorphin | prpplague: you and kergoth need to make tim watch it |
| 03:44.48 | prpplague | sorphin: he'd have a cow |
| 03:45.03 | kergoth | tim hasnt seen office space? what the.. |
| 03:45.25 | prpplague | sorphin: i think he had to take some glecerin tablets after seeing the mtv version of elronds counsel |
| 03:45.28 | prpplague | kergoth: no |
| 03:45.49 | kergoth | bbl, gonna watch a dvd |
| 03:45.55 | sorphin | prpplague: take him out, get him drunk |
| 03:45.57 | sorphin | loosen him up |
| 03:46.42 | chouimat | I never saw office space |
| 03:47.05 | sorphin | chouimat: well, you're a poor naive french canadian, so... |
| 03:47.05 | sorphin | ;) |
| 03:47.21 | chouimat | sorphin: you're jealous? |
| 03:47.31 | sorphin | chouimat: um.. no |
| 03:48.36 | sorphin | prpplague is so uncultured, he's prolly never even heard of def leppard :P |
| 03:54.04 | prpplague | sorphin: ha |
| 03:54.37 | prpplague | sorphin: granted i didn't listen to it until i left home :), but i listen to everything |
| 03:54.47 | prpplague | sorphin: probably more music styles than you |
| 03:55.04 | sorphin | doubtful |
| 03:55.10 | prpplague | sorphin: ha |
| 03:55.28 | sorphin | name me some stuff you think i've never heard/listen to :P |
| 03:57.00 | prpplague | sorphin: i have cd's for brazillian, indian, arabic, folk, jazz, blues, r&p, pop, grudge, heavy metal, celtic, geogrian chant, rock (including hair bands and good 60's drug rock) |
| 03:57.29 | prpplague | sorphin: i prefer world tunes |
| 03:58.14 | sorphin | that's nice |
| 03:58.21 | sorphin | doesn't do what i asked you to do ;) |
| 03:58.30 | prpplague | sorphin: which is? |
| 03:58.49 | prpplague | sorphin: you want a list of ppl/bands you don;t listen to? |
| 04:00.02 | sorphin | that you don't think i'd listen to |
| 04:00.48 | chouimat | ? |
| 04:00.55 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.soundsfromtheground.com/ |
| 04:00.59 | prpplague | sorphin: prepare for a list |
| 04:02.36 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000025IL0/qid=1052193742/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-2683056-2717509 |
| 04:02.39 | sorphin | muhahahha, electronic music, my speciality :P |
| 04:03.49 | sorphin | prpplague: hadn't heard of, but recognize the performer, looks like one to check out |
| 04:03.51 | sorphin | next |
| 04:03.56 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000DDM3/qid=1052193808/sr=8-6/ref=sr_8_6/104-2683056-2717509?v=glance&s=music&n=507846 |
| 04:05.00 | prpplague | sorphin: |
| 04:05.03 | prpplague | http://www.allaboutjazz.com/reviews/r0203_153.htm |
| 04:06.09 | sorphin | ROTFL |
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| 04:07.59 | prpplague | sorphin: ha |
| 04:08.02 | prpplague | sorphin: funny |
| 04:08.27 | sorphin | that's whats on the page *shrug* guess someone has a poor sense of humor at amazon |
| 04:08.59 | prpplague | sorphin: their "ai" probably did something with the name "rash" |
| 04:09.41 | sorphin | yeah |
| 04:11.27 | sorphin | prpplague: art of noise |
| 04:11.43 | prpplague | sorphin: yea |
| 04:12.11 | prpplague | sorphin: interesting stuff |
| 04:12.30 | prpplague | sorphin: really hard to disquish patterns sometimes because the patterns are so long |
| 04:12.38 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:13.52 | sorphin | NWA/Eazy E :P |
| 04:14.51 | prpplague | sorphin: not really my style, i'm more miss elliot |
| 04:15.04 | prpplague | sorphin: you know she has a phd in phylosophy |
| 04:15.41 | sorphin | yes |
| 04:16.01 | sorphin | even if you can't spell it ;) |
| 04:16.21 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, i'm tired and i can't spell on the best of days |
| 04:16.32 | sorphin | true |
| 04:16.34 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm totally phoentical |
| 04:16.52 | sorphin | then you'd be spelling that fonetical |
| 04:17.15 | prpplague | sorphin: that too, lol |
| 04:17.24 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 04:17.29 | prpplague | chouimat|Zzzz: later baldy |
| 04:17.34 | sorphin | prpplague: hmm.. Abba |
| 04:17.53 | chouimat|Zzzz | prpplague: later friar Tock |
| 04:17.55 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya |
| 04:17.59 | prpplague | chouimat|Zzzz: lol |
| 04:18.23 | prpplague | sorphin: waterloo, dance queen, good stuff, nice retro euro sound |
| 04:18.39 | chouimat|Zzzz | ewwwwwww abba ... |
| 04:18.41 | sorphin | prpplague: saw mamma mia while i was in london, in 2K |
| 04:19.07 | chouimat|Zzzz | night sorph |
| 04:19.10 | prpplague | sorphin: cutie |
| 04:19.14 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: night luser |
| 04:19.16 | prpplague | sorphin: cute |
| 04:19.29 | sorphin | prpplague: was entertaining |
| 04:19.39 | sorphin | phantom's still a fav tho |
| 04:20.20 | sorphin | and west side |
| 04:20.44 | prpplague | sorphin: not like you never heard of pinkfloyd, but have you ever seen the dark side of the rainbow? |
| 04:21.10 | sorphin | prpplague: never heard of Pink Floyd eh? |
| 04:21.23 | prpplague | sorphin: your not reading |
| 04:21.37 | sorphin | prp; no, i just don' speak texan |
| 04:21.51 | prpplague | sorphin: let me slow down even further |
| 04:22.10 | sorphin | prpplague: no, just take the chew out of your mouth when you're speakin |
| 04:22.17 | prpplague | sorphin: I know you've listen to PF, but have you watched the darkside of the rainbow video |
| 04:22.59 | sorphin | prpplague: haven't had the pleasure, unfortunately |
| 04:23.21 | prpplague | sorphin: darkside of the moon album played against the video of wizard of oz |
| 04:23.31 | prpplague | sorphin: i have a nice mpeg of it |
| 04:23.35 | sorphin | neat |
| 04:23.48 | sorphin | how big? |
| 04:23.48 | prpplague | sorphin: funny thing is it matches |
| 04:23.54 | prpplague | let me check |
| 04:33.22 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya, got work to do too |
| 04:33.32 | prpplague | sorphin: give me a couple of minutes |
| 04:34.11 | sorphin | work, at 11:43pm? |
| 04:34.20 | sorphin | man you are a POS lackey |
| 04:36.02 | prpplague | sorphin: raid drives failing like bad condoms this morning |
| 04:36.35 | sorphin | fun |
| 04:36.54 | sorphin | whoa |
| 04:36.54 | sorphin | nice |
| 04:36.57 | sorphin | http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=608428 |
| 04:39.07 | prpplague | sorphin: 662mb |
| 04:39.09 | prpplague | sorphin: avi |
| 04:40.19 | sorphin | prpplague: got anywhere speedy to yank it from? |
| 04:40.47 | prpplague | sorphin: if your interested, i'll dump it to one of the boxes connected to a t1 at the office tomorrow |
| 04:41.23 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm interested |
| 04:41.25 | sorphin | ;) |
| 04:41.35 | sorphin | btw.. hope that T1 isn't needed ;) |
| 04:41.40 | sorphin | cuz i pull full T1 ;) |
| 04:41.46 | prpplague | sorphin: nope,completely unused |
| 04:42.42 | sorphin | cool |
| 04:44.06 | sorphin | tomorrow should be a short day |
| 04:44.27 | prpplague | i hope so, these long night are killing me |
| 04:44.35 | sorphin | well, for me it'll be |
| 04:44.38 | prpplague | i signed up for computer work not accounting |
| 04:45.14 | sorphin | i was out sick today, but tommorrow i'm taking a 1/2 then down to sarah's neck of the woods, to watch her play, then back here real late, so taking off wednesday |
| 04:45.39 | prpplague | sorphin: didn't know you could take sick days for sexual disfunction |
| 04:46.46 | prpplague | sorphin: jk, bastard, no need to kill me with a comeback |
| 04:47.01 | sorphin | no sexual dysfunction here ;) |
| 04:47.08 | sorphin | which is more than i've heard about you ;) |
| 04:47.13 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 04:47.37 | sorphin | prpplague: heard that's really why your wife left, she got sick of having to sneak to get some from the cable guy |
| 04:47.45 | prpplague | sorphin: you have to wonder what would have happened if we workin the same building, lol |
| 04:47.52 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 04:48.01 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, it was an ex-boyfriend |
| 04:48.07 | sorphin | true |
| 04:48.21 | sorphin | prpplague: what about same building? |
| 04:48.44 | prpplague | sorphin: i wonder if we'd have gotten along working in the same building/company |
| 04:48.57 | sorphin | who? |
| 04:49.03 | prpplague | sorphin: you and i |
| 04:49.05 | sorphin | ah |
| 04:49.25 | sorphin | just don't act like a luser, and we'd prolly be fine |
| 04:49.39 | prpplague | sorphin: besides, i'd gotten more since she left than when i was married to her |
| 04:49.46 | prpplague | s/i'd/i've |
| 04:49.52 | sorphin | my last review was good except was commented i need to work on my working w/ other people |
| 04:49.54 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 04:50.03 | prpplague | sorphin: i was about to same that to you! |
| 04:50.12 | sorphin | well |
| 04:50.17 | prpplague | sorphin: ha |
| 04:50.18 | sorphin | if people would do like i fucking ask |
| 04:50.32 | sorphin | instead of pretending they don't hear me till they break something |
| 04:50.37 | sorphin | i wouldn't need to be a prick ;) |
| 04:50.46 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 04:50.53 | sorphin | what's funny |
| 04:51.02 | sorphin | is they're gonna be fucked when i find a job closer to sarah |
| 04:51.42 | sorphin | i'm *the* unix guy for the group |
| 04:52.03 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm the problem solver |
| 04:52.23 | prpplague | sorphin: any time something does work like it suppose to its "give it to dave time" |
| 04:52.27 | sorphin | we don't need one of those |
| 04:52.42 | sorphin | i generally catch things before they become probs |
| 04:52.46 | prpplague | sorphin: they never leave me in an area long enough to become a expert at anything |
| 04:52.58 | sorphin | if i dno't catch it |
| 04:53.07 | sorphin | it's usually because i was busy watching ebay ;p |
| 04:53.11 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 04:53.23 | sorphin | i'm really pissed w/ the place atm |
| 04:53.35 | sorphin | i had to change my shit to ssh2 and turn on NOOP keepalives |
| 04:53.43 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, that management for ya, they rather pay me to clean up that prevent the problem in the first place |
| 04:54.02 | sorphin | including my illegal tunnel |
| 04:55.28 | prpplague | lol |
| 04:55.53 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well there is hope for death of some of those super dmca's |
| 04:56.15 | prpplague | sorphin: i actually got a call back from my state senator about the one here in texas |
| 04:56.28 | sorphin | prpplague: cool |
| 04:56.37 | sorphin | well, the only thing illegal about this tunnel |
| 04:57.05 | sorphin | is it's a reverse SSH connection back into the network/IDN, instead of using their vpn shit |
| 04:59.36 | prpplague | frell, i missed farscape |
| 05:00.02 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:00.04 | sorphin | oops :P |
| 05:04.45 | prpplague | ok all raid drives are scheduled for rebuild, should be done by the morning |
| 05:04.52 | prpplague | sorphin: later wcom lackey |
| 05:05.13 | sorphin | s/wcom/mci/ |
| 05:05.14 | sorphin | *g* |
| 05:05.21 | sorphin | till we rename again |
| 05:08.13 | prpplague | ssdd |
| 05:08.15 | prpplague | later |
| 05:11.05 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: good movie? |
| 05:11.16 | kergoth | blade 2. not bad. |
| 05:11.30 | chouimat|Zzzz | better than the first? |
| 05:12.02 | kergoth | nah |
| 05:12.03 | kergoth | brb |
| 05:12.22 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: go to bed :P |
| 05:14.32 | chouimat|Zzzz | sorphin: look I have a party downstair so try to sleep with Dance Music ... |
| 05:15.48 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: no prob :P |
| 05:16.09 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: i do that at raves :P |
| 05:16.31 | chouimat|Zzzz | sorphin: sorry it's not dance music it's Christina A.... |
| 05:17.05 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: ah, miss trailer trash |
| 05:17.27 | chouimat|Zzzz | yup ... |
| 05:18.31 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: are they buzy getting dirrty? :P~ |
| 05:18.55 | chouimat|Zzzz | yay! 10 police cars arrive |
| 05:19.17 | sorphin | cool |
| 05:19.20 | sorphin | busted |
| 05:20.01 | chouimat|Zzzz | mmmmm a lot of people are running in the street ... I wonder if they have drugs |
| 05:20.01 | kergoth | god building mozilla/firebird takes a long fucking time |
| 05:20.11 | sorphin | kergoth: that's why i never build it |
| 05:20.18 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: prolly |
| 05:20.35 | kergoth | sorphin: I wanted a phoenix/firebird build w/ freetype. default binaries dont |
| 05:20.59 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:21.12 | sorphin | i wish there was something better :P |
| 05:21.23 | sorphin | phoenix/whatever crashes too much for me sometimes |
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| 05:21.48 | sorphin | prpplague: back for more eh? |
| 05:21.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:22.23 | prpplague | sorphin: ya had a question for kergoth |
| 05:22.37 | prpplague | kergoth: hey, is there a buildroot make command to dl all the source but without the build? |
| 05:22.47 | kergoth | make sources; |
| 05:22.51 | kergoth | as documented in docs/BUILD |
| 05:22.52 | prpplague | kergoth: ok thanks |
| 05:22.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:23.00 | prpplague | kergoth: we have docs now |
| 05:23.03 | sorphin | ~cluebat prpplague |
| 05:23.04 | | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps prpplague. |
| 05:23.05 | kergoth | yep |
| 05:23.10 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks |
| 05:23.12 | chouimat|Zzzz | hey prpplague |
| 05:23.20 | kergoth | docs/BUILD is build steps, docs/DEVEL is a walkthrough of adding an app to buildroot |
| 05:23.38 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm goonna spend some time in the airport wed. i'd like to work on mallums stuff |
| 05:23.46 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:23.47 | kergoth | cool |
| 05:23.50 | prpplague | kergoth: great thanks |
| 05:24.03 | prpplague | kergoth: its gonna be a long week |
| 05:24.10 | sorphin | prpplague: now go dream about RAID :P |
| 05:24.26 | chouimat|Zzzz | prpplague: beer in seattle, we want a written report :) |
| 05:24.33 | prpplague | kergoth: if this conversion doesn't leave completely brain dead, i'll be surprised |
| 05:24.39 | kergoth | my week is going to consist of a great deal of slacking off at work |
| 05:24.44 | kergoth | so no different than any other week, really |
| 05:24.46 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:24.51 | chouimat|Zzzz | lol |
| 05:25.06 | prpplague | kergoth: frellin legacy sco to linux conversion.....32 stores |
| 05:25.10 | kergoth | ouch |
| 05:25.20 | prpplague | kergoth: probablity of a frell up is high |
| 05:25.46 | kergoth | probability of me kicking your ass for not saying fuck, is high |
| 05:25.48 | sorphin | prpplague: least it's *from* SCO |
| 05:25.50 | kergoth | ~lart prpplague |
| 05:25.52 | sorphin | and not TO sco |
| 05:26.04 | prpplague | kergoth: rotfl |
| 05:26.07 | sorphin | kergoth: dave wouldn't know what fuck meant if it happened to him |
| 05:26.15 | sorphin | ;) |
| 05:26.20 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya |
| 05:26.46 | sorphin | ya know |
| 05:26.54 | sorphin | the 1st time one of Tim's kids curses |
| 05:26.57 | sorphin | and tim hears it |
| 05:27.00 | sorphin | he'll prolly have a stroke |
| 05:27.03 | prpplague | kergoth: you knot head, i swear i'm gonna hook you up with an east texas woman |
| 05:27.08 | prpplague | kergoth: you'll be sorry |
| 05:27.11 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 05:27.35 | sorphin | prpplague: it'll take him a week just to find her under the big hair |
| 05:27.36 | prpplague | alrighty then........ |
| 05:28.04 | chouimat|Zzzz | huuh? |
| 05:28.10 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, i'm willing to bet he forgets to ask her to take out her chew before he kisses her |
| 05:28.12 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: go sleep now |
| 05:28.18 | sorphin | prpplague: prolly |
| 05:28.36 | kergoth | if i see dave come at me with a woman, its time to run away |
| 05:28.41 | kergoth | i'll find my own, thanks ;) |
| 05:28.45 | sorphin | kergoth: she'll catch you ;) |
| 05:28.54 | prpplague | sorphin: he'll be the probably be the proud owner of trailer house soon |
| 05:29.12 | chouimat|Zzzz | sorphin: she will probably tie him like a calf in rodeo |
| 05:29.15 | sorphin | prpplague: prolly higher class than the apt he's in now ;) |
| 05:29.20 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: indeed |
| 05:29.52 | prpplague | kergoth: anyway, thanks for the info..... |
| 05:30.12 | kergoth | prpplague: np |
| 05:30.27 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.40 | kergoth | sorphin: pretty small, but its mine |
| 05:30.41 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:30.47 | sorphin | kergoth: not for long ;) |
| 05:30.49 | prpplague | later guys, gotta get some sleep |
| 05:30.59 | sorphin | you're upgradin to a trailer w/ a big haired east texas woman ;) |
| 05:31.02 | kergoth | sorphin: going to find a relative or family friend to rent it out |
| 05:31.32 | kergoth | in fact, I think I'm going to rent it to my dad |
| 05:31.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:31.45 | kergoth | who is currently living in the basement of the house where my mom and stepdad and stepbrother live |
| 05:31.48 | kergoth | i shit you not. |
| 05:31.53 | chouimat|Zzzz | sorphin: like the ones in King oh the Hill? |
| 05:31.59 | sorphin | well, now i'll have 3 people to harrass when i finally get sent down there |
| 05:32.26 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: indeed |
| 05:32.40 | chouimat|Zzzz | sorphin: what a boring show :) |
| 05:33.17 | kergoth | i'll likely end up with a studio apartment in uptown dallas or something |
| 05:33.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:33.23 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:33.24 | sorphin | riiight |
| 05:34.03 | kergoth | i live in the burbs right now, its so fucking quiet |
| 05:34.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:34.16 | sorphin | i work almost 30 miles from home |
| 05:35.04 | kergoth | sucks eh? i live about 30-35 from digi too |
| 05:35.17 | kergoth | I hate wasting so much time on the damn road |
| 05:36.01 | kergoth | you know, with the amount that I swear, working with tim will be interesting |
| 05:36.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:37.02 | chouimat|Zzzz | kergoth: I hope that job will be fun for you |
| 05:37.12 | kergoth | thanks, me too |
| 05:37.29 | sorphin | kergoth: he'll prolly conspire to have you fired after a week :P |
| 05:40.41 | sorphin | or just give you a look every time |
| 05:54.36 | chouimat|Zzzz | sorphin: you will be happy i'm going to sleep |
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| 13:57.48 | cosmic_away | Morning folks |
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| 14:03.18 | prpplague | morning ladies |
| 14:12.35 | CosmicPenguin | ladies? |
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| 14:17.16 | prpplague | sjhill: morning oh mighty mips guru |
| 14:18.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you're on one this morning |
| 14:18.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, been up all night, monitoring raid rebuild :( |
| 14:18.54 | CosmicPenguin | doh |
| 14:19.05 | CosmicPenguin | lots of cofee, little sleep, terminal lack of boobies? |
| 14:19.48 | prpplague | ya that too |
| 14:20.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: although when i get back from seattle, got a blind date set up |
| 14:20.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ought to be interesting |
| 14:22.33 | sjhill | prpplague: hi |
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| 14:25.16 | sorphin | sjhill: my condolences |
| 14:25.56 | sorphin | sjhill: and as prpplague would say, it's buried, not married ;) |
| 14:26.01 | sjhill | heh |
| 14:26.12 | sorphin | sjhill: anyways, congrats |
| 14:26.24 | sjhill | thx |
| 14:26.27 | legodude | sjhill: you're gettin married? |
| 14:26.30 | sorphin | sjhill: may yours go better than most |
| 14:26.33 | sorphin | legodude: he already did |
| 14:26.37 | legodude | o |
| 14:26.46 | legodude | recently? |
| 14:26.54 | sorphin | legodude: that'd be why he said, before you reconneted: * sjhill/#elinux is now married.... |
| 14:26.58 | sjhill | legodude: 4 days ago |
| 14:27.04 | legodude | ah |
| 14:27.06 | legodude | congrats |
| 14:27.14 | sjhill | thank you |
| 14:27.16 | legodude | best of luck to the both of you |
| 14:27.16 | sorphin | sjhill: shouldn't you still be honeymooning and not mipswhoring? |
| 14:27.26 | legodude | ya |
| 14:27.27 | legodude | true |
| 14:27.29 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: I'm up on the block 14 days from now... :) |
| 14:27.40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: we're sharpening the blade ;) |
| 14:27.46 | sjhill | sorphin: i wish....the vacation/pto policy at timesys....sucks! |
| 14:27.54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: promise a nice clean cut at the neck |
| 14:27.59 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: cool..... |
| 14:28.00 | prpplague | sjhill: if you just remember - "a wedding is just a pre-divorce party" |
| 14:28.09 | legodude | hahahaha |
| 14:28.12 | sorphin | prpplague: sjhill's been married before |
| 14:28.17 | sorphin | remember? |
| 14:28.18 | legodude | man do you guys have a bleak view of marriage |
| 14:28.48 | sorphin | legodude: ya, but they do it/do it again anyways ;) |
| 14:29.00 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: not alot of folks in here have made it through with any sort of success |
| 14:29.02 | sjhill | prpplague: the 'D' word has been removed from both of our vocabularies....this is a second marriage for both of us.....many many hours of discussions, arguments and compromises were made BEFORE we got engaged....neither one of us wants a repeat |
| 14:29.12 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: cept for ibot, of course. He's been married 5 years, and he loves it... :) |
| 14:29.17 | sorphin | sjhill: good plan |
| 14:29.23 | prpplague | sjhill: jeeze and you didn't learn the first time |
| 14:29.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: s/ibot/tim/ or just ibot? |
| 14:29.49 | sjhill | prpplague: nothing to learn accept how deceitful a person can be for financial gain |
| 14:29.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: just ibot. That guy is a love machine... literally |
| 14:30.02 | prh | been married nearly four years. love it. it's hard work, but worth it. (divorce is not an option for us)) |
| 14:30.05 | prpplague | sjhill: hmmm, sounds all too familiar at the momment |
| 14:30.10 | sorphin | ibot: marriage |
| 14:30.11 | | marriage is probably at 12 am |
| 14:30.18 | sjhill | heh |
| 14:30.18 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: only in Vegas |
| 14:30.19 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, CosmicPenguin |
| 14:30.29 | CosmicPenguin | parse error? |
| 14:30.34 | sorphin | ibot: we never know what CosmicPenguin is talking about ;) |
| 14:30.35 | | sorphin: what are you talking about? |
| 14:30.40 | sorphin | ibot: die |
| 14:30.40 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 14:30.43 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: lart that dude |
| 14:31.05 | sorphin | prpplague: 2 words |
| 14:31.11 | sorphin | prpplague: Pre Nup |
| 14:31.33 | sorphin | uh oh |
| 14:31.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: wasn't all that |
| 14:33.18 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:33.24 | legodude | mornin |
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| 14:33.53 | prpplague | sorphin: 2 words |
| 14:33.57 | prpplague | sorphin: never again |
| 14:34.31 | sieve | morning all |
| 14:35.05 | sorphin | prpplague: you say that now |
| 14:35.08 | prpplague | sieve: get back to work you net b@#ch |
| 14:35.09 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: 19 days, is it? |
| 14:35.55 | prpplague | sorphin: now, if she was a millionare nympho, maybe |
| 14:36.11 | sorphin | prpplague: i've heard those exist |
| 14:36.30 | prpplague | sorphin: addendem - millionare nympho linux advocate |
| 14:38.05 | legodude | at the moment /me just needs a girlfriend |
| 14:38.59 | prpplague | legodude: naw, just find some friends that are girls |
| 14:39.09 | legodude | have those |
| 14:39.16 | legodude | they're pretty damn awesome |
| 14:39.59 | legodude | but I need a girlfriend, but, being summer, that's easily said than done |
| 14:40.21 | prpplague | legodude: what part of the country are you from? |
| 14:40.29 | legodude | Detroit area |
| 14:40.52 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: 14 days, 9 hours and 20 minutes according to my countdown-o-meter on www.jordanandstacee.com |
| 14:41.24 | prpplague | legodude: yikes |
| 14:41.35 | legodude | haha |
| 14:41.36 | legodude | why? |
| 14:41.44 | prpplague | legodude: only been there a couple of times |
| 14:41.53 | legodude | Detroit is armpit of nation |
| 14:41.57 | legodude | but I live in a rather nice suburb |
| 14:42.07 | legodude | just a lack of interesting things to do here |
| 14:42.09 | prpplague | legodude: just not too found of alot of the big northern cities |
| 14:42.25 | legodude | ah |
| 14:42.28 | prpplague | legodude: not much diversity of women there? |
| 14:42.41 | legodude | not so much in my town |
| 14:42.47 | legodude | at college there is |
| 14:44.29 | chouimat | brb need coffee |
| 14:47.35 | sorphin | legodude: to prpplague northern cities are anything above dallas :P |
| 14:47.43 | legodude | hahaha |
| 14:49.38 | sorphin | Indiana Jones coming to DVD in November |
| 14:49.40 | sorphin | finally |
| 14:49.42 | chouimat | sorphin: I think that prpplague liked Ottawa ... and I don't even know why .... look in quebec we find Ottawa boring so I'm starting to have question with the quality of american bars/clubs |
| 14:50.28 | sorphin | chouimat: we question with it too |
| 14:52.07 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I agree |
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| 14:52.19 | legodude | chouimat: where are you in canada? |
| 14:52.48 | chouimat | Quebec Cityy |
| 14:52.59 | chouimat | s/Cityy/City |
| 14:53.07 | legodude | ah |
| 14:53.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: to quote someone on /. " Ah, just in time to be bought by the truckload, before the DVD set that includes movie #4 comes out." |
| 14:53.51 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: nah - it will be a while before that happens |
| 14:54.05 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: plus, who wants to watch a 65 year old Indiana Jones anyway? |
| 14:54.08 | sorphin | apparently got 90 pages of script for #4 atm |
| 14:54.37 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: my mother |
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| 14:58.24 | chouimat | hi TimRiker |
| 14:58.57 | sorphin | TimRiker: and theeeeeeeeeeeere's timmy |
| 15:07.53 | prpplague | mallum: dude.......... |
| 15:08.04 | prpplague | mallum: xfree86+z |
| 15:08.22 | prpplague | mallum: the sl-5500 resume doesn't work with your images |
| 15:08.38 | prpplague | TimRiker: morning |
| 15:09.23 | prpplague | mallum: the other question is why i can't get any other fonts to be recognized |
| 15:09.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the sl-5500 resume is borked anyway, IMHO |
| 15:10.57 | mallum | prpplague: Im only responsible for the X part ;-) |
| 15:11.17 | mallum | prpplague: what fonts are you needing to get recognised ? |
| 15:12.45 | kergoth`zzz | ibot: tuesday |
| 15:12.46 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday), or a day in which there are no meetings |
| 15:13.12 | prpplague | mallum: some of the other pcf fonts, i.e. 8x13 |
| 15:13.17 | kergoth`zzz | mallum: X should be handling the suspend. what method is it using to the suspend the Z? |
| 15:13.46 | prpplague | the suspend works, but its like the power button is getting ignored |
| 15:14.31 | prpplague | on resume i mean |
| 15:14.58 | mallum | kergoth`zzz: yeah X works fine with suspend on the c700 |
| 15:15.36 | mallum | prpplague: are the pcf fonts installed ? |
| 15:16.07 | prpplague | mallum: i placed them in the fonts dir |
| 15:16.20 | prpplague | mallum: however even after reboot, i didn't get them available |
| 15:16.40 | prpplague | mallum: i'll tinker with it tonight, i didn't have much time last night |
| 15:16.53 | prpplague | mallum: just wanted to know if the resume was an issue on the c700 |
| 15:17.29 | prpplague | mallum: i dumped familiar gtk packages on and installed a couple gpe apps |
| 15:17.37 | prpplague | mallum: didn't have any problems |
| 15:18.02 | mallum | prpplague: okie what fonts dir did you put them in ? |
| 15:18.04 | kergoth`zzz | prpplague: if the Z is suspended via an ioctl on apm_device, rather than apm -s, it *will* never wake up. |
| 15:18.08 | kergoth`zzz | prpplague: guaranteeed. |
| 15:18.29 | kergoth`zzz | prpplague: its a bug relating to multiple opens of the apm_bios device.. a bug in the apm implementation in all embedix Z kernels |
| 15:18.46 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: ok, i'll have a look, all i was doing is just using the power/cancel button |
| 15:19.16 | kergoth`zzz | I know. |
| 15:19.20 | kergoth`zzz | thats what i'm referring to. |
| 15:19.31 | kergoth`zzz | if the Z was suspended via the wrong means, that button wont do a fucking thing |
| 15:19.33 | sorphin | kergoth`zzz: so fix it ;) |
| 15:19.53 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: ok gotcha, i'll have a look tonight |
| 15:19.53 | kergoth`zzz | bah, fuck that, i already ditched lineo's apm implementation in favor of an altered version of handhelds.org's in my 2.4.19 tree |
| 15:20.11 | sorphin | kergoth`zzz: but we won't see 2.4.19 for..... |
| 15:20.13 | sorphin | *g* |
| 15:20.23 | kergoth`zzz | a month, maybe too. the move delays things :) |
| 15:20.32 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: so probably the best thing is not use the power button, but to just use an icon for suspend? |
| 15:20.37 | kergoth`zzz | speaking of which, got the paperwork today. reviewing just how much of my life away here |
| 15:20.40 | kergoth`zzz | prpplague: nonono |
| 15:20.50 | kergoth`zzz | prpplague: its X doing the suspend with both methods |
| 15:20.59 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: ok, sorry, slow this morning, lack of sleep |
| 15:21.07 | kergoth`zzz | the solution is to fix X's suspend method if its a problem |
| 15:21.13 | kergoth`zzz | which is why I asked mallum how X does the suspend |
| 15:21.18 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: ahh, need to dig in the X and have a look |
| 15:21.32 | kergoth`zzz | make it call out 'apm -s', and all should be well |
| 15:21.37 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: gotcha |
| 15:21.42 | prpplague | kergoth`zzz: looking now |
| 15:21.51 | kergoth`zzz | s/how much of my life/how much of my life i'll be signing/; |
| 15:21.59 | kergoth`zzz | i shouldnt type before coffee. |
| 15:22.07 | sorphin | kergoth`zzz: obviously |
| 15:22.11 | sorphin | mr zzz |
| 15:22.11 | kergoth`zzz | :) |
| 15:22.18 | mallum | kergoth`zzz, prpplague: nothing is set up in them images to do a suspend 'in X' |
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| 15:22.37 | kergoth | mallum: then thats the problem. kernel autosuspend will not work with apmd running |
| 15:23.01 | mallum | prpplague: youed need to map the power button to apm -s in matchbox |
| 15:23.21 | Error403 | hum dee dumm |
| 15:23.26 | mallum | kergoth: autosuspend = read power button strait from kernel ? |
| 15:23.46 | Error403 | kergoth: Hello |
| 15:23.52 | kergoth | err, yeah. mallum, are you using the apm ioctl to tell the kernel not to catch the power button press? |
| 15:23.59 | Error403 | kergoth: I got my tux back up after fighting with it |
| 15:24.03 | kergoth | mallum: if not, the kernel is catching it. bad design, but blame lineo, not I |
| 15:24.07 | kergoth | Error403: glad to hear it |
| 15:24.20 | Error403 | kergoth: And guess what?........ hehe, Qt/E is still messed :) |
| 15:24.25 | kergoth | mallum: take a look at odevice.cpp in libopie/ in the opie cvs repos, see Zaurus::suspend() |
| 15:24.34 | Error403 | kergoth: I verified Qt/E was using tslib using memstat |
| 15:24.39 | prpplague | kergoth: ya, from what i could tell, x was ignoring the key |
| 15:24.39 | mallum | kergoth: yeah Im not blaiming you for anything ;-) just trying to understand whats going on. I've not set up anything in that image for handling suspends |
| 15:24.41 | kergoth | er, not suspend.. its another function |
| 15:24.52 | kergoth | mallum: just needs to be done at X start time, and reverted on exit |
| 15:25.03 | kergoth | mallum: switching the handler from kernel to userspace, and vice versa |
| 15:25.29 | mallum | kergoth: right gotcha, I just need on X startup to tell the kernel not to handle the power button |
| 15:25.30 | prpplague | kergoth: how is that handled? |
| 15:25.50 | kergoth | mallum: bingo. then all will be well |
| 15:25.52 | prpplague | kergoth: is that a proc flag ? |
| 15:26.02 | kergoth | nah, ioctl. |
| 15:26.17 | kergoth | lineo have a fetish for custom character device interfaces |
| 15:26.17 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh, ok |
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| 15:26.27 | kergoth | hey GPSFan |
| 15:26.34 | prpplague | kergoth: so ioctl on which dev? |
| 15:26.46 | prpplague | kergoth: the apm dev? |
| 15:26.48 | kergoth | fuck if i remember, look at odevice in opie |
| 15:27.01 | prpplague | kergoth: ok, sorry for the 20 questions |
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| 15:27.29 | mallum | kergoth: is this 5xxx only, it dont happen on the c700 ? |
| 15:27.33 | kergoth | $70/wk for medical for a single person? what the fuck |
| 15:27.40 | kergoth | mallum: dunno off the top of my head. |
| 15:28.11 | Error403 | kergoth: That's not too bad, take it :/ |
| 15:28.14 | sorphin | kergoth: mine isn't that bad now, but it still sucks, considering it used to be free if you were single |
| 15:28.37 | kergoth | sorphin: yeah, it was free for a while here too. guess i was spoiled |
| 15:28.44 | mallum | kergoth: I mapped the power key via matchbox to apm -s on c700 and sleep was fine ( better than ipaq in fact ) |
| 15:29.10 | kergoth | mallum: so they likely ditched the catch of that press in kernel space. good. |
| 15:29.33 | CosmicPenguin | Error403: I pay $70 a month! |
| 15:29.58 | mallum | kergoth: is it even worth worrying about, if your 2.4.19 kernels are gonna avoid stciking it in kernel space too ? |
| 15:30.10 | kergoth | "All employment with Resource technologies Corporation is considered to be on the basis of at-will employment. This means that employment and compensation can be terminated, with or without cause, and with or without notice, at any time at the option of either the Company or the employee." |
| 15:30.11 | Error403 | CosmicPenguin: Yes, but you're lucky |
| 15:30.20 | kergoth | in other words, we can rape you at any time, for any reason |
| 15:30.24 | kergoth | whee. |
| 15:30.26 | Error403 | CosmicPenguin: And you're coverage isn't really good |
| 15:30.29 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: right to work state? |
| 15:30.31 | prpplague | kergoth: yep, texas is an atwill state |
| 15:30.32 | CosmicPenguin | Error403: says you... |
| 15:30.35 | kergoth | yep |
| 15:30.40 | kergoth | thats rather annoying |
| 15:30.41 | kergoth | ah well |
| 15:30.54 | prpplague | mallum: well, i'll probably fix it so i can use what i have right now |
| 15:31.08 | sorphin | kergoth: well, that's why they called it texASS |
| 15:31.10 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: its nice if you get fired or otherwise leave the company - they really can't come after you for working in the same field |
| 15:31.25 | chouimat | atwill state? |
| 15:31.43 | prpplague | chouimat: no reason has to be given for an employer to fire you |
| 15:31.57 | prpplague | chouimat: they can do it "at will" |
| 15:32.17 | prpplague | mallum: should i even bother sending you a patch? |
| 15:32.19 | sorphin | prpplague: so you oculd look at me funny and i could fire you NQA |
| 15:32.28 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 15:32.41 | sorphin | prpplague: i wanna be your boss, just for a day *snicker* |
| 15:32.41 | CosmicPenguin | Well not quite - you could always sue claiming discrimination |
| 15:32.58 | kergoth | I definately need to have a lawyer review this shit |
| 15:32.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hmm |
| 15:32.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed, but i've never heard of anyone winning |
| 15:33.07 | CosmicPenguin | The employer still needs to follow the rules regarding civil rights, maternity leave, military leave, etc, etc... |
| 15:33.14 | sorphin | "he discriminated against me because i'm a geek" |
| 15:33.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I have, all the time |
| 15:33.24 | Error403 | sorphin: hells yes |
| 15:33.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its just that they normally don't choose to go back to work there... |
| 15:34.20 | kergoth | hrpmh |
| 15:34.23 | mallum | prpplague: sure, still send me the patch if you do it |
| 15:34.58 | prpplague | mallum: ok, i'm looking at it now |
| 15:35.19 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, looks like ftp.digex.com doesn't have a dns entry |
| 15:35.46 | kergoth | yep |
| 15:35.48 | kergoth | your tree is old |
| 15:35.52 | kergoth | bk pull; bk -r co -q; |
| 15:36.03 | kergoth | i switched mirrors a few days ago on those makefiles |
| 15:36.09 | chouimat | kergoth: how many pages of legal words |
| 15:36.16 | prpplague | kergoth: from a week ago, i forget how things change so quickly in oz/oe land |
| 15:36.17 | mallum | prpplague: it may be easiest to add it to the x startup script , rather than patching the beast that is X |
| 15:36.36 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm used to abcs shit that is stagnet for months |
| 15:37.01 | kergoth | prpplague: hehe. people complain about the changes, but its mostly improvements. case in point, i added libatk, libpango, and libgtk2 to buildroot. gpe is next |
| 15:37.05 | prpplague | mallum: agreed, probably just have a small app to switch it on and off |
| 15:37.07 | chouimat | prpplague: that the best way to become lazy |
| 15:37.36 | prpplague | kergoth: damit man, your not leaving any of the fun stuff for anyone else |
| 15:37.57 | chouimat | prpplague: one word : fork oe then :) |
| 15:38.22 | prpplague | chouimat: get real, thats the whole purpose of the community, lol |
| 15:40.23 | prpplague | mallum: btw, did you ever run across your .config for the sl-5500 x build? |
| 15:40.38 | mallum | prpplague: no, but I'll upload it for yoy now |
| 15:40.39 | chouimat | prpplague: look I wrestling with an app that was designed 10 years ago by a cobol programmer who didn't know how to use C++ and sql database ... but I can't change the design at all even if that app doesn't work ... the client doesn't want to pay ... man running Freebsd 2.2.8 just to be able to compile that app ... |
| 15:41.24 | kergoth | mallum: add it as def-configs/c700-X or what have you |
| 15:41.26 | prpplague | chouimat: lol, whats that have to do with forking a project? |
| 15:41.51 | mallum | kergoth: okey |
| 15:41.58 | chouimat | prpplague: nothing ... man that C++ code is ugly |
| 15:42.34 | prpplague | chouimat: ohh |
| 15:42.41 | mallum | kergoth: I made mrproper the other day and now make menuconfig is totally broke :( |
| 15:42.52 | prpplague | mallum: doh |
| 15:42.58 | mallum | kergoth: Im getting ; |
| 15:43.01 | mallum | ./config.in:110: syntax error, unexpected T_IF, expecting T_EOL |
| 15:43.01 | mallum | ./config.in:111: invalid menu option |
| 15:43.06 | mallum | ...continued... |
| 15:43.13 | mallum | then it gives up :( |
| 15:43.29 | kergoth | old tree? try bk pull |
| 15:43.38 | mallum | nah I just bk pulled |
| 15:43.57 | kergoth | hmm, look at config.in |
| 15:44.55 | mallum | kergoth: shall I delete it and recheck it out, seems fine to me |
| 15:45.16 | kergoth | hmm |
| 15:45.18 | mallum | kergoth: its scripts/kconfig/mconf ./config.in producing all the errors |
| 15:45.20 | kergoth | make -C scripts/kconfig clean |
| 15:45.32 | kergoth | maybe you have remnants of an old lkc version |
| 15:45.45 | mallum | kergoth: that fixed it :-) |
| 15:45.49 | kergoth | cool |
| 15:46.56 | mallum | Im gonna get 2 buildroots on the go, 1 for 5xxx and 1 for c700 |
| 15:47.24 | kergoth | yeah, i tend to have 8 or so going |
| 15:47.29 | kergoth | but most are untouched for large periods of time |
| 15:47.33 | kergoth | and then need a mrproper and rebuild again |
| 15:48.34 | mallum | prpplague: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/5xxx-config |
| 15:48.54 | mallum | kergoth: yeah I discovered yesterday I had 40 gigs of unformated disk space ... :-) |
| 15:48.56 | prpplague | mallum: thanks |
| 15:49.13 | prpplague | argh, our fw is jackin with my wgets |
| 15:49.26 | kergoth | mallum: bastard :) |
| 15:50.16 | mallum | kergoth: hehe |
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| 15:55.25 | chouimat | mallum: how can you forgot 40GB? |
| 15:56.41 | chouimat | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134689749_winhec06.html |
| 15:57.29 | prpplague | chouimat: jeeze |
| 15:57.32 | prpplague | chouimat: "The best way to advance the state of the art is to work together even more closely, always starting from the customer's perspective and focusing on the combination of hardware and software that works best to create an innovative and compelling next-generation PC." |
| 15:57.48 | prpplague | chouimat: hmm, kinda sounds like Open Source |
| 15:58.01 | Error403 | Now THAT'S marketter jargon |
| 15:58.09 | Error403 | sounds so stupid |
| 15:58.11 | mallum | chouimat: dunno |
| 15:58.25 | prpplague | omg - "Microsoft has to show the leadership; who else is going to?" |
| 15:58.35 | chouimat | Error403: and does it mean something in english? |
| 15:58.36 | Error403 | hehehe |
| 15:58.47 | Error403 | chouimat: nope, not at all actually :) |
| 15:59.14 | prpplague | figures such drivel would come from a seattle paper |
| 15:59.25 | chouimat | Error403: ok I had a doubt about my understanding of english for a moment |
| 16:01.41 | chouimat | wow cad == 0.710008usd |
| 16:02.34 | kergoth | goddamnit |
| 16:02.41 | kergoth | i forgot my best friends wedding is june 7th |
| 16:02.52 | kergoth | if i start on the 2nd, i'll just be flying my ass back here to be best man |
| 16:02.53 | chouimat | kergoth: send a toaster :) |
| 16:03.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:03.11 | Error403 | lol |
| 16:03.16 | kergoth | they dont need a toaster, they own a $350,000 home thats fully stocked :) |
| 16:03.20 | kergoth | dunno wtf to get them |
| 16:03.45 | Russ | a *4* slice toaster? |
| 16:03.56 | Error403 | lol |
| 16:03.57 | Russ | ooh, a+b accesspoint |
| 16:04.04 | chouimat | kergoth: one of my friend got about 12 of those at his weeding ... they keep 2 you know in case of divorce :) |
| 16:04.09 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:06.04 | Error403 | WHY WOULD YOU GIVE SOMEONE A TOASTER?! |
| 16:06.04 | Error403 | hehehe |
| 16:06.12 | kergoth | to toast things! |
| 16:06.18 | kergoth | :P |
| 16:06.19 | Russ | I gave someone a coffee maker for graduation |
| 16:06.49 | Error403 | but that's more useful, and it supplies caffiene |
| 16:06.58 | chouimat | kergoth: and espresso machine? |
| 16:07.05 | chouimat | s/and/an |
| 16:07.27 | kergoth | mmm caffeine |
| 16:07.45 | Russ | I'm guessing they probably have all that |
| 16:07.52 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: can you answer an X question for me? |
| 16:08.00 | Russ | but then, "$300,000 house" is a very subjective term |
| 16:08.18 | Error403 | Russ: no no, add 50,000 more to that ;) |
| 16:08.21 | Russ | like, a 300k house in SF on a hill? or a 300k house in AZ out in the 'burbs |
| 16:08.30 | Error403 | hehe |
| 16:08.34 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: exactly |
| 16:08.44 | Russ | because the one in SF would have *no* extras and would be pretty small |
| 16:09.02 | Error403 | Russ: Well, he isn't in SF, he's here :) |
| 16:09.20 | Error403 | Probably lives in Minnetonka on the lake |
| 16:09.33 | Error403 | hehe |
| 16:09.45 | Russ | I sholud put cool stuff in my hostname |
| 16:09.48 | Error403 | omfg my address is in there ;) j/k |
| 16:10.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:10.15 | Russ | for.a.good.time.call.(insert number here).gothicfury.com |
| 16:11.31 | sorphin | 8675309 |
| 16:11.33 | Error403 | it basically says I live in Minnesota in Winsted |
| 16:11.41 | Error403 | sorphin: hehe |
| 16:11.44 | sorphin | Error403: even i got the Minnesota out of it :P |
| 16:11.52 | Russ | Error403: its got a funny way of saying it |
| 16:11.58 | Error403 | hehe |
| 16:12.07 | sorphin | Russ: xxxxmn.tds.net |
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| 16:12.27 | Russ | hmm..sorphin's is much easier to decode |
| 16:12.29 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: sure, I can try |
| 16:12.38 | Error403 | Actually I don't think it says anything about Winsted, but yet a section of telephone systems TDS owns |
| 16:12.47 | sorphin | Russ: only because i haven't cared to set up reverse DNS isntead of bells |
| 16:12.49 | Error403 | OwNz0rZ |
| 16:13.13 | Russ | sorphin: don't have a machine set up to do the reverse? |
| 16:13.22 | sorphin | ibot: lart Error403 for trying to be leet |
| 16:13.29 | Error403 | :P |
| 16:13.44 | sorphin | Russ: well, it's more a matter of bugging bell to let me do it |
| 16:13.49 | Russ | ah |
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| 16:13.57 | Russ | caus we got machines freakin' everywhere |
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| 16:14.07 | Russ | at least most of them are in the rack |
| 16:14.16 | sorphin | but they still currently hold the in-addr.arpa |
| 16:14.34 | sorphin | Russ: it's harder to get places to give that up |
| 16:14.42 | Russ | ya, try getting someone on the phone who knows what that is |
| 16:14.53 | sorphin | than to just do forward naming |
| 16:15.01 | sorphin | Russ: the only time i've ever had probs |
| 16:15.12 | sorphin | is on servers where the admin's too paranoid |
| 16:15.14 | Russ | we just go through ye local ISP here |
| 16:15.21 | sorphin | and they bitch cuz fron and rev don't match |
| 16:15.40 | sorphin | Russ: well, bell is my dsl carrier and ISP |
| 16:15.43 | Russ | well, reverse should have at least one forward that matches... |
| 16:15.55 | Russ | qwest is my dsl carrier and fastq is my isp |
| 16:16.00 | Error403 | sorphin: Yeah, my last ISP gave up their in-addr.arpa |
| 16:16.07 | Error403 | sorphin: Boy did I have fun with that :) |
| 16:16.25 | Error403 | They even let me control my own domain info through their DNS servers to get in the upstream |
| 16:16.30 | Error403 | they were cool |
| 16:16.52 | Russ | Error403: I run my own dns servers here |
| 16:17.04 | Error403 | Russ: How do you get into the upstream though? |
| 16:17.11 | Error403 | What DNS server is above you? |
| 16:17.34 | Russ | I don't need to, I just give them the address of the server that in handle in-addr-arpa |
| 16:17.43 | Russ | make that second slash a . |
| 16:17.47 | Russ | er, dash |
| 16:17.48 | Error403 | oh, just for that, gotcha |
| 16:18.06 | Error403 | I had my own DNS server too. Gah, I hate BIND. |
| 16:18.10 | Russ | the domain servers then serve 2 .com domains |
| 16:18.24 | Russ | I use djbdns for external, and dn-masq for internal |
| 16:18.36 | Russ | djb is a crackhead, but its easy to setup, and it works |
| 16:19.09 | sorphin | i hate BIND too, but other than the one time i got exploited, it's worked fine |
| 16:19.11 | chouimat | Russ: I'm now using maradns |
| 16:19.30 | sorphin | Russ: you mean of the ones i secondary? |
| 16:19.36 | Russ | sorphin: ya |
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| 16:19.54 | sorphin | Russ: it's actually 1 physical host, a friend does webhosting |
| 16:19.55 | Russ | if you have one server, and its the primary, the web server, and the email server, and it goes down |
| 16:20.06 | Russ | then a secondary does you no good |
| 16:20.11 | sorphin | actually |
| 16:20.17 | Error403 | uh, yes, one server since sorphin is the SECONDARY host ;) |
| 16:20.18 | sorphin | yeah it does |
| 16:20.28 | Russ | Error403: you don't see what I mean |
| 16:20.38 | Error403 | I hate it when my caps lock gets stuck |
| 16:20.39 | sorphin | Error403: no, i'm the secondary DNS server |
| 16:20.48 | Russ | Error403: if you server goes down, people can't get to your website, and a secondary dns won't help with that |
| 16:20.51 | sorphin | Russ: and yes it does work |
| 16:20.52 | Error403 | sorphin: That's what I meant |
| 16:21.00 | sorphin | jus tbecause primary dns dies |
| 16:21.05 | sorphin | doesn't mean the server itself went down |
| 16:21.24 | Russ | yes, but i'm saying for many people, that is the case, because they are the same box |
| 16:21.31 | sorphin | plus, i've seen queries go to secondary dns for no other reason than diersity |
| 16:21.46 | sorphin | diversity even |
| 16:21.51 | sorphin | stupid insert mode |
| 16:23.04 | sorphin | that was interesting |
| 16:23.12 | sorphin | but worked fine |
| 16:26.45 | chouimat | misframed BTTF dvds? |
| 16:27.02 | Error403 | BuTTFuck DVDs |
| 16:27.27 | sorphin | Error403: this is your only warning, watch it. |
| 16:27.35 | chouimat | Error403: do you miss George- that much? |
| 16:27.44 | Error403 | heh |
| 16:27.59 | chouimat | sorphin: it's the BTTF I don't understand? I don't have a dvd player so ... |
| 16:28.05 | sorphin | Error403: If Tim were awake, he'd prolly not like your wording. |
| 16:28.14 | sorphin | chouimat: Back To The Future |
| 16:28.20 | Error403 | Neither would my parents |
| 16:28.38 | chouimat | sorphin: ok |
| 16:28.51 | sorphin | Error403: well, i dunno about your parents (other than they obviously dropped you on your head as a baby), but,,, |
| 16:29.37 | Error403 | That's just cruel |
| 16:29.53 | sorphin | Error403: then watch your mouth |
| 16:33.24 | prpplague | now now boys |
| 16:33.52 | prpplague | lets keep things nice and focus on embedded linux issues |
| 16:34.03 | sorphin | prpplague: riiight |
| 16:35.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: know of any ready to go OSS ftp client libraries? |
| 16:35.41 | chouimat | prpplague: and I will like to have your ratebeer app .... I'm tired to search my paperpad |
| 16:35.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ie, something along the lines of this API: ftp_client(host, username, password)? |
| 16:36.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: why not yank the code from the bb wget |
| 16:36.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've used it on several projects |
| 16:36.47 | prpplague | chouimat: ok, i'm testing a new version out on my seattle trip |
| 16:36.56 | prpplague | chouimat: goes well, i'll send the code |
| 16:37.50 | chouimat | prpplague: ok ... those beers are rich ... I think I will get a few pounds just sampling them |
| 16:38.13 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: libcurl? |
| 16:38.23 | kergoth | hrm |
| 16:38.26 | Error403 | Tim was here :) |
| 16:39.03 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: thats right |
| 16:39.33 | CosmicPenguin | Thats why I love you guys |
| 16:40.35 | Russ | prpplague: maybe you didn't get the memo |
| 16:40.39 | Russ | prpplague: MS has conquered the embedded world with a supireor product, and embedded linux is obsolete |
| 16:40.41 | Error403 | lol |
| 16:40.47 | prpplague | Russ: lol |
| 16:41.05 | prpplague | Russ: was that with the memo about the new cover sheet on the TPS reports? |
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| 16:41.20 | chouimat | wb tim |
| 16:41.21 | Error403 | prpplague: hehe |
| 16:41.38 | sorphin | prpplague: did you forget to use the new coversheet? I thought i sent you the memo |
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| 16:41.55 | Russ | did you get the memo? |
| 16:41.58 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: the one you sent to me had a Visual Basic virus attached |
| 16:42.10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: not possible |
| 16:42.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: so I opened it up and sent it to the whole company to warn them |
| 16:42.18 | Error403 | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 16:42.33 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but you backed up the server, right? :) |
| 16:43.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: backups? what are those? |
| 16:43.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: oooooooooooh, you mean those things that just saved me from strangling the project manager for the group? |
| 16:43.59 | prpplague | anyone ever seen that job search commercial about the lady opening up the "pink slip virus" ? |
| 16:44.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: because he fscking did an rm -fr * IN THE WRONG DIR? |
| 16:53.25 | chouimat|lunch | wooohooooo my downloader works !!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:22.29 | prpplague | mallum: hmm, that config you sent doesn't seem to build x |
| 17:23.36 | prpplague | mallum: hmm, maybe i've hosed something |
| 17:27.18 | kergoth | hm |
| 17:27.37 | prpplague | looks like the glibc option isn't selected in the config |
| 17:31.22 | Russ | any questions for trident engineers? |
| 17:31.27 | Russ | got them on the phone |
| 17:33.07 | prpplague | mallum: nm |
| 17:33.11 | Error403 | we know :) |
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| 17:35.45 | sorphin | Russ: as in the failing video card company, or the gum makers? ;) |
| 17:35.58 | Russ | video card maker |
| 17:36.18 | Russ | irrc, trident the gum company is within a short distance of here |
| 17:36.27 | sorphin | nope, not since i haven't used anything trident since the 8900D |
| 17:36.30 | ade|indy | morning all |
| 17:36.45 | kergoth | hey ade|indy |
| 17:36.46 | kergoth | ibot: tuesday |
| 17:36.47 | | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday), or a day in which there are no meetings |
| 17:36.47 | sieve | prpplague: you got crack?! You holding out on me?! |
| 17:36.56 | Russ | the field of companies has narrowed significantly |
| 17:40.09 | TimRiker | Russ: "field of companies"? |
| 17:40.35 | sorphin | TimRiker: likely either field of companies near him, or gfx card companies |
| 17:40.48 | sorphin | both of which is prolly accurate these days |
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| 17:42.16 | prpplague | kergoth: i seem to be missing answering a question on the config.......... |
| 17:42.42 | chouimat | i'm bored |
| 17:43.45 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:44.01 | chouimat | and that embedded dns server is making me angry |
| 17:44.38 | sorphin | prpplague: you posted that avi yet? |
| 17:44.39 | chouimat | bye sorphin |
| 17:45.06 | kergoth | going to try having opie's launcher call an app w/ LD_BIND_NOW set, so we hit the unresolved symbols immediately.. and check if stderror contains unresolved symbols. if so, try running it in the compat env, and if that yet fails, pop up a warning box saying that the application's ABI doesnt match that of the libs |
| 17:45.28 | kergoth | that *should* make running gcc2 built c++ apps in a gcc3 built env work cleanly, i'd think |
| 17:45.43 | prpplague | sorphin: negative |
| 17:45.52 | sorphin | bah |
| 17:45.58 | prpplague | sorphin: been busy |
| 17:46.06 | sorphin | ditto |
| 17:46.24 | sorphin | and the dork don't leave me alone, i leave in 12 mins, i don't care after taht what the hell breaks |
| 17:51.07 | mallum | prpplague: X just built fine for me ( and from a make mrproper ) with that same config |
| 17:52.02 | mallum | kergoth: yo do the irda modules get built for the c700 currently ? |
| 17:52.10 | prpplague | mallum: ya i'm not using gcc3 |
| 17:52.22 | prpplague | mallum: and i'm on rhat |
| 17:52.37 | mallum | prpplague: ah okey, Im downloading rh9 at the mo |
| 17:52.47 | mallum | prpplague: for mother in laq |
| 17:52.48 | mallum | law |
| 17:53.03 | prpplague | mallum: it seems theres a dependecy that i'm missing |
| 17:53.05 | kergoth | mallum: word is, if you call irattach /dev/ttyS1, then you can beam in opie |
| 17:53.40 | mallum | kergoth: ? |
| 17:53.55 | kergoth | mallum: irda is enabled in the kernel. they arent modules. |
| 17:54.07 | mallum | kergoth: ah cool, I wonder what dc is on about then :\ |
| 17:54.07 | kergoth | mallum: but irda0 doesnt exist initially for some reason |
| 17:54.19 | kergoth | he's probably noting that beaming doesnt work |
| 17:54.25 | kergoth | enabling irda from opie doesnt do a damn thing |
| 17:54.29 | kergoth | until you do what i just mentioned |
| 17:55.15 | mallum | yeah I have to do the same thing on my powerbook and have it cat to /dev/null :} |
| 17:55.55 | kergoth | guess we need an irda startup script or something |
| 18:07.02 | prpplague | kergoth: ok, i give up, i can't seem to get gtk2 dependencies |
| 18:07.44 | kergoth | you need X, libpango, libatk, zlib, libpng, freetype, libjpeg, freetype-build, .. |
| 18:07.47 | kergoth | lets see |
| 18:07.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:10.14 | prpplague | kergoth: all of which i never get prompted for |
| 18:10.22 | kergoth | uhh |
| 18:10.24 | kergoth | dood |
| 18:10.31 | kergoth | oldcofnig only prompts for items not listed in the .config |
| 18:10.36 | kergoth | if mallum had them disabled, so do you |
| 18:10.40 | kergoth | this is like a fucking kernel build |
| 18:10.42 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i know, i must be missing something |
| 18:10.45 | kergoth | run make menuconfig for gods skae |
| 18:10.48 | kergoth | go enable them |
| 18:10.55 | prpplague | kergoth: i was running make menuconfig |
| 18:11.03 | kergoth | and? |
| 18:11.04 | kergoth | they're there. |
| 18:11.25 | kergoth | the interdependencies are complex. you cant enable libpango without freetype and the rest for example |
| 18:12.44 | prpplague | kergoth: agreed, i think buildroot is hosed or something |
| 18:13.19 | kergoth | no, *your* buildroot is hosed. |
| 18:13.30 | mallum | prpplague: I never had freetype-build enabled, nor any gtk stuff |
| 18:13.50 | prpplague | kergoth: sorry thats what i meant |
| 18:14.12 | prpplague | kergoth: and yes it was hosed, permissions problem |
| 18:14.55 | chouimat | wtf? someone is sueing the gov. because he spend all his money in a casino/video pocker game |
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| 18:19.47 | prpplague | kergoth: wasn't paying attention apparently i ended up with some files owned by root |
| 18:22.03 | Russ | this guy is cool http://www.wirelessleiden.nl/wcl/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/BenqAwl500 |
| 18:22.20 | mallum | kergoth: I wanna make some tests with the libxine package ( make it work with x ), if I edit the Makefile but never ci it, it'll never get to you when I bk push right ? |
| 18:22.26 | Russ | chouimat: he didn't give it to the poor you see |
| 18:22.57 | kergoth | mallum: bk push only pushes changesets. ci'ing a change isnt enough, only created changesets with citool or commit are pushed/pulled between trees |
| 18:23.35 | chouimat | Russ: ? |
| 18:24.18 | Russ | nm |
| 18:24.44 | chouimat | Russ: i just want to understand your comment .... |
| 18:25.15 | Russ | he spent the money on gambling when he could have donated it to the poor |
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| 18:25.44 | mallum | kergoth: right, and for a commit to notice a changed it has to have been ci'd ? |
| 18:25.51 | prpplague | Russ: be 100% sure its p2.5, we have been getting alot of cards lately where they were advertised as p2.5's and they are something else |
| 18:26.06 | Russ | its a benq awl100 |
| 18:26.06 | kergoth | mallum: bingo |
| 18:26.10 | Russ | I read up on it |
| 18:26.18 | kergoth | mallum: or added, in the case of new files. which is basically the same as bk ci -y |
| 18:26.18 | Russ | chipset wasn't listed in the specs |
| 18:26.21 | chouimat | Russ: yup ... but here the goverment (lotto-quebec) is owner of the casino and he's arguing that if the gov. didn't opened those casino he wouldn't have that problems |
| 18:26.24 | kergoth | er not -y, -i |
| 18:26.28 | Russ | really, I don't care what prism version it is |
| 18:26.37 | Russ | I just wanna make it into a low power acces point |
| 18:27.10 | Russ | chouimat: my head hurts |
| 18:27.23 | chouimat | :) |
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| 18:41.01 | chouimat|afk | hey prpplague |
| 18:47.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did you ever hear back from those guys on the app? |
| 18:50.17 | chouimat|afk | file: sent the package? |
| 18:51.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah - we've been going back and forth for a bit |
| 18:51.30 | file | chouimat|afk: I'm waiting for when I send the payment for my router |
| 18:51.46 | file | chouimat|afk: the post office is a big trek for me... |
| 18:51.51 | chouimat|afk | file: ok |
| 18:52.40 | CosmicPenguin | RAMFS has a hard maximium, doesn't it? |
| 18:52.44 | CosmicPenguin | Or does it grow until OOM? |
| 18:52.50 | file | chouimat|afk: find a box? |
| 18:53.02 | Russ | I think the default might be half of ram |
| 18:53.22 | chouimat|afk | file: probablly |
| 18:53.27 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: half of ram at init time, or half of ram at any given time? |
| 18:53.44 | Russ | dunno |
| 18:53.48 | CosmicPenguin | tis ok |
| 18:54.55 | kergoth`lunch | haw haw |
| 18:54.59 | kergoth`lunch | my boss just comes over |
| 18:55.03 | kergoth`lunch | we talk about my replacement |
| 18:55.18 | kergoth`lunch | he says he doesnt think we can get someone with the skillsets we need, and that i have, at the tech support wage |
| 18:55.22 | kergoth`lunch | in other words, he admits i'm underpaid |
| 18:57.04 | chouimat|afk | kergoth`lunch: lol |
| 19:00.48 | prpplague | kergoth`lunch: jeeze |
| 19:02.34 | chouimat|afk | ok back to the vacuum cleaner |
| 19:08.00 | chouimat|afk | kergoth: I'm wondering why they all say that when you leave .... |
| 19:08.33 | kergoth | chouimat|afk: cause they're cheap bastards? |
| 19:08.43 | chouimat|afk | kergoth: probably .... |
| 19:12.02 | chouimat|afk | TimRiker: any remote possibility that I will get any feedback? |
| 19:20.23 | file | the media production class at school wants to pay me $10 to be in their Jackass parody movie |
| 19:20.43 | Russ | great... |
| 19:20.44 | kergoth | dare i ask what you'd be stuck doing? |
| 19:20.46 | Russ | I would say no |
| 19:20.57 | file | I dunno... |
| 19:21.04 | file | I too am sticking to "no" |
| 19:21.22 | kergoth | TimRiker: fyi, i'm picking up the pace a bit. Moved the start date up to the 26th, a week earlier than I had projected previously. |
| 19:21.24 | file | bbl - must watch SG1 |
| 19:22.11 | prpplague | mallum: hey, can you add KERNEL as a dependecy on the xfree86 package |
| 19:22.31 | kergoth | prpplague: ah, it needs headers that arent in kernel-headers.. Z specific shit? |
| 19:22.44 | prpplague | kergoth: just the version.h file |
| 19:22.56 | Russ | has anyone seen a more horrid site than arrow.com? |
| 19:22.59 | prpplague | kergoth: its a quick fix to copy it, but, it would be better that way |
| 19:23.11 | prpplague | kergoth: aiut |
| 19:23.20 | kergoth | prpplague: version.h should be put in output/staging/include/linux/ by kernel-headers as well, actually. |
| 19:23.33 | kergoth | prpplague: are you sure the problem isnt a build being done without -I$(STAGING_DIR)/include? |
| 19:23.37 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, i'll double check |
| 19:23.54 | kergoth | just check the compile line that fails |
| 19:23.56 | prpplague | kergoth: ya that too, i was fixing a diff |
| 19:24.07 | kergoth | you said it worked if you copied a version.h into output/staging/include/linux/? |
| 19:24.41 | prpplague | kergoth: no i have to copy it into the toolchain include/linux |
| 19:24.45 | prpplague | kergoth: which is wrong |
| 19:24.48 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:24.55 | kergoth | thatd be the problem. you're running into the same issue i ran into |
| 19:24.59 | kergoth | if i add the path that fixes it |
| 19:25.01 | kergoth | it fails for mallum |
| 19:25.05 | kergoth | quite odd |
| 19:25.11 | kergoth | mallum: ping |
| 19:25.23 | mallum | pong |
| 19:25.29 | kergoth | this ring a bell? |
| 19:25.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:25.41 | prpplague | ya we have talked about it numerous times |
| 19:26.00 | prpplague | i've fixed it in my version, but haven't had a chance to forward a diff to mallum |
| 19:26.06 | mallum | kergoth: yeah, I think its fixed by the xcompiler just having a version.h |
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| 19:26.29 | mallum | prpplague: oh you've fixed it to not need that :-) ? |
| 19:26.53 | kergoth | prpplague: what toolchain are you using to build? |
| 19:26.59 | prpplague | mallum: ya, i patched the one Makefile that was the issue |
| 19:27.05 | chouimat | grrrr I like the way the electricity is done here .... 1 circuits for all the rooms .... |
| 19:27.05 | prpplague | kergoth: 2.95.3 from lart |
| 19:27.10 | kergoth | k |
| 19:27.22 | prpplague | kergoth: i've had this problem with other arm apps |
| 19:27.29 | kergoth | that explain why i didnt run into it recently |
| 19:27.40 | kergoth | i've been using a 2.95.4 from debian pool built by buildroot lately |
| 19:27.47 | kergoth | s/explain/explains/ |
| 19:27.50 | chouimat | so while I pass the vacuum cleaner I still have the chance to blow a fuse |
| 19:28.19 | prpplague | kergoth: ya the debian stuff seems to have it |
| 19:28.46 | prpplague | kergoth: another thing i'm on rhat which always creates problems |
| 19:28.54 | kergoth | its not debian, its that the kernel headers that get stuffed into the toolchain dir match the headers we used to build libc, and libc doesnt build without version.h, iirc |
| 19:28.57 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:34.35 | CosmicPenguin | grrrr... I hate sync |
| 19:34.50 | prpplague | mallum: anyway, i'll forward what a diff, you can make up your mind on whether you want to do with it |
| 19:35.05 | prpplague | s/what/with |
| 19:37.55 | file | chouimat: oh guess what, that Hyperwallet company even freely shows their toll-free address! |
| 19:38.54 | file | address? |
| 19:38.57 | file | I meant phone number |
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| 19:41.55 | kergoth | hrm |
| 19:50.38 | CosmicPenguin | hrm? |
| 19:53.06 | chouimat | CAD == 0.718245 USD |
| 19:53.11 | kergoth | hrm |
| 19:55.02 | file | chouimat: SAWEET! |
| 19:55.57 | prpplague | kergoth: code or paperwork? |
| 19:56.11 | kergoth | neither. deb.t |
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| 20:10.05 | glytchbinary | w00t |
| 20:10.10 | glytchbinary | background/drug tests are done |
| 20:10.15 | glytchbinary | get my badge tomorrow (: |
| 20:10.23 | chouimat | glytchbinary: ? |
| 20:10.26 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:10.34 | kergoth | chouimat: he works for ti |
| 20:10.35 | prpplague | glytchbinary: fun |
| 20:10.40 | chouimat | kergoth: ok |
| 20:10.52 | prpplague | glytchbinary: don't be drinking the toner fluid out of the copiers tonight |
| 20:11.02 | glytchbinary | heh |
| 20:11.11 | glytchbinary | that really doesn' t sound like a good idea |
| 20:11.16 | glytchbinary | kergoth: didn't you apply? |
| 20:11.28 | chouimat | glytchbinary: I can understand the drugs but what is the background test exactly? |
| 20:11.29 | prpplague | glytchbinary: and got one |
| 20:11.51 | kergoth | glytchbinary: I start may 26th. |
| 20:12.00 | glytchbinary | i start... tomorrow or thursday |
| 20:12.11 | kergoth | cool |
| 20:12.14 | glytchbinary | depending on how things go with the teachers |
| 20:12.17 | glytchbinary | damn they suck |
| 20:12.28 | chouimat | hehe |
| 20:12.29 | kergoth | I couldnt remember which contract firm you said you went with, so i went with stan at rtc employment |
| 20:12.37 | glytchbinary | damnit |
| 20:12.42 | glytchbinary | it was impact innovations |
| 20:14.24 | glytchbinary | i wonder how long they give you to get up to speed on things |
| 20:17.25 | chouimat | glytchbinary: 2 days :) |
| 20:17.29 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, my pango build tried to link against a lib in /usr/local/lib |
| 20:18.04 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:18.17 | kergoth | that sounds like libtool being evil |
| 20:18.21 | kergoth | i'll try a build in a few |
| 20:19.22 | prpplague | kergoth: ok, don't put yourself, its probably something i'm doing as usual |
| 20:19.44 | kergoth | well, i was planning on patching libtool to prevent that from *ever* happening |
| 20:19.59 | kergoth | just never got around to it. but nothing should have caused that to occur, afaik |
| 20:20.05 | kergoth | i'lll do a build regardless |
| 20:20.08 | glytchbinary | hmm... the dart bus people are very helpful |
| 20:27.28 | chouimat | dart bus people? |
| 20:29.26 | prpplague | chouimat: bus service |
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| 20:31.40 | chouimat | prpplague: ok |
| 20:32.00 | glytchbinary | chouimat: the people that will be getting me home from ti |
| 20:32.21 | glytchbinary | if i don't fuck it up and end up on the other side of texas somewhere |
| 20:32.29 | prpplague | chouimat: Dallas Area and Region Transport iirc |
| 20:36.41 | file | SCO bastards, didn't even read my e-mail |
| 20:36.50 | file | I said I didn't want the source! I just wanted a libc6 version. |
| 20:37.04 | file | but I got "We don't have the rights to distribute the source as it is |
| 20:37.04 | file | owned by Novell." |
| 20:39.41 | chouimat | re |
| 20:41.15 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i think libtool is jackin with me, matchbox is failing with similiar issues |
| 20:41.33 | kergoth | prpplague: tried mrpropering libtool and rebuilding it? make SUBDIRS=packages/libtool mrproper; make |
| 20:43.28 | chouimat | ok my cat is terrrorised ... I just finished with the vacuum cleaner |
| 20:44.11 | prpplague | kergoth: trying that as you typed |
| 20:45.43 | chouimat | http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/schedule.html |
| 20:46.26 | prpplague | kergoth: ahh, chokin on fakeroot, don't have that on my box |
| 20:46.54 | kergoth | what needs fakeroot? |
| 20:47.03 | prpplague | kergoth: libtool |
| 20:47.11 | kergoth | libtool shouldnt need fakeroot. |
| 20:47.23 | kergoth | are you sure its failing in the *libtool*build? |
| 20:47.27 | kergoth | make SUBDIRS=packages/libtool; |
| 20:50.04 | prpplague | kergoth: double checking, having to answer phone and work at the same time |
| 20:50.10 | kergoth | k |
| 20:50.12 | kergoth | np |
| 20:51.15 | prpplague | kergoth: ya my fault i did a make SUBDIRS=packages/libtool; make |
| 20:51.33 | kergoth | yeah, i know, thats the command i gave you |
| 20:51.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:51.47 | prpplague | kergoth: it was mb, went further, so it looks like maybe that fixed it |
| 20:51.49 | kergoth | which is why i figured it was failing in something else, and that likely wiping libtool solved that particular prob |
| 20:51.52 | kergoth | bingo |
| 20:51.58 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i wasn't paying attention and just hit the up arrow |
| 20:52.25 | prpplague | kergoth: thats why you'd da man |
| 20:53.54 | prpplague | gonna have to find a fakeroot |
| 20:53.56 | kergoth | nah, i just know more about this stupid build shit than i ever wanted to |
| 20:54.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:54.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you basing that ratebeer app on the FDL spec? |
| 20:54.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no, it was there before |
| 20:54.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but it would be nice to re-write it |
| 20:54.51 | kergoth | FDL? |
| 20:55.20 | prpplague | kergoth: project CosmicPenguin and i have been working on for a customer |
| 20:55.27 | kergoth | ah, gotcha |
| 20:55.59 | prpplague | kergoth: xml based language for creating mobile/pda/web forms |
| 20:56.39 | prpplague | kergoth: we are trying to convince the customer to OS it |
| 20:57.10 | prpplague | kergoth: really great piece of work, probably never see the light of day |
| 20:57.14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: which really doesn't matter, because the FDL is independent of the actuall application |
| 20:57.32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: and I know that I could make it lots better the second go around |
| 20:58.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 20:58.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the reason I asked is that I'm casting around for a good oppertunity to develop a demostration setup |
| 20:58.42 | chouimat|afk | any url for that? |
| 20:58.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, well, i've got a couple you could use |
| 20:58.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it would have to be fairly easy (because we don't want to spend too much free time doing it), but something that we could point at for others to see |
| 20:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: like, for example, surveys for a film festival... :-) |
| 20:59.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 21:00.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the other Ofbiz folks could do the web part, and we could do the PDA and we're off to the races |
| 21:00.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 21:00.51 | prpplague | kergoth: fakeroot isn't listed as an item need for the buildroot :) |
| 21:01.17 | kergoth | fakeroot shouldnt be needed. |
| 21:01.29 | kergoth | if it is, someone should smack mallum around a bit |
| 21:01.33 | kergoth | heheh |
| 21:01.38 | prpplague | kergoth: i grepd, there are about 5 or 6 packages that seem to use it |
| 21:02.00 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: the "triple" or the "quadrupel"? |
| 21:02.12 | kergoth | prpplague: uhh |
| 21:02.16 | kergoth | prpplague: where exactly did you grep? |
| 21:02.25 | kergoth | theres only two references in packages/, and neither are used |
| 21:02.40 | prpplague | kergoth: in build dir |
| 21:03.09 | kergoth | prpplague: 95% of the packages in buildroot never call make install. |
| 21:03.23 | kergoth | prpplague: so the fact that you see it there, doesnt imply it gets executed |
| 21:03.36 | prpplague | kergoth: ok, just thought i'd mention it |
| 21:04.01 | kergoth | this is one of hte many reasons I want apps installing their files explicitly, or patching the appropriate makefiles to remove root dependency |
| 21:04.20 | kergoth | i.e. apps that install -m 0755 -u root -g root, or what have you |
| 21:04.30 | prpplague | kergoth: gotcha |
| 21:04.42 | kergoth | so |
| 21:04.45 | kergoth | ~lart mallum |
| 21:04.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:05.07 | prpplague | kergoth: ohh, thats odd, i just noticed |
| 21:05.18 | prpplague | kergoth: the system is using libtool 1.4.3 again |
| 21:05.23 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:05.24 | kergoth | it is |
| 21:05.40 | kergoth | 1.5 wasnt getting the debian patches applied, because i moved before they did |
| 21:05.41 | prpplague | kergoth: maybe the libtool1.5 was probably what was causing the problem |
| 21:05.46 | kergoth | but it turned out we needed those :) |
| 21:05.46 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:05.48 | kergoth | it was |
| 21:05.58 | prpplague | ahh |
| 21:06.14 | prpplague | lovely |
| 21:06.22 | kergoth | we need the debian patches, and then my patches, and then it behaves semisanely |
| 21:06.31 | prpplague | gotcha |
| 21:06.54 | prpplague | ~lart prpplague for wasting time |
| 21:09.28 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm still having problems with pango, but everything else went fine |
| 21:11.56 | prpplague | mallum: did you have you default image .config as well? |
| 21:34.32 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: for you beer rating apps what are you useing to keep the data? |
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| 21:47.17 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: based on the ratebeer.com formula |
| 21:47.53 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: the data store? |
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| 21:48.41 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: aroma 1-10 appearance 1-5 taste 1-10 palet 1-5 overall 1-20 |
| 21:48.46 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: sqlite db |
| 21:50.23 | chouimat|afk | ok |
| 21:52.22 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: the difference between taste and palet? |
| 21:52.45 | kergoth | palet sounds more texture than taste |
| 21:53.55 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: taste is the initial flavor as you take a drink |
| 21:54.09 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:54.26 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: palet is the split second after you swallow the beer and the lingering effect |
| 21:54.40 | chouimat|afk | prpplague: ok I converting ... |
| 21:55.00 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: the ratebeer site has good howto rate |
| 21:55.25 | prpplague | chouimat|afk: in addition books-a-million and amazon carry a nice lamonated reference sheet |
| 21:56.44 | chouimat | prpplague: here my rating for the 2 beers I tasted yesterday, blond: aroma 8, apearence 5, taste 9,palet 5 overall 19 |
| 21:57.11 | chouimat | prpplague: dubbel aroma 9,apearence 5, tastee 9, palet 4, overall 17 |
| 21:57.15 | prpplague | chouimat: wow thats a pretty high rating |
| 21:57.32 | prpplague | chouimat: both are pretty high |
| 21:57.32 | chouimat | prpplague: look that because they are very good beers |
| 21:58.06 | prpplague | chouimat: did you compare those ratings with the others on ratebeer for the same beer? |
| 21:58.33 | chouimat | yup I'm maybe a little generous :) but it's me ... |
| 21:59.35 | chouimat | http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBrewer.asp?BrewerID=780 |
| 22:02.40 | prpplague | chouimat: i've not rated any of those |
| 22:03.39 | chouimat | the tripel is good but it's not my favorite ... |
| 22:04.16 | prpplague | http://www.ratebeer.com/ViewUser.asp?UserID=1210&SortBy=4 |
| 22:06.15 | chouimat | prpplague: I think I will join thatt site |
| 22:13.22 | prpplague | later guys, time to get ready to go to seattle |
| 22:13.26 | chouimat | bye |
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| 22:32.59 | chouimat | guys I think I just found the perfect beer .... the ambrosia of the greek gods |
| 22:42.46 | CosmicPenguin | grrrr..... stupid bus errors |
| 22:42.56 | chouimat | anyone have prpplague email addy |
| 22:43.01 | chouimat | for a 10% beer that one is pure pleasure to drink |
| 22:43.33 | file | ibot: prpplague |
| 22:43.34 | | well, prpplague is mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
| 22:53.51 | mallum | uh, why am I getting beaten ? |
| 22:54.33 | mallum | fakeroot ? |
| 22:56.25 | kergoth | yeah, aparently when you do one of your makes as a user, it uses fakeroot |
| 22:56.38 | kergoth | which is pretty debian specific :) i dont know anyone in other distros who have it |
| 22:57.11 | mallum | ah ok |
| 22:57.31 | kergoth | fakeroot is necessary for things like makefiles running chown 0.0, or install -u root |
| 22:57.35 | kergoth | or what have you |
| 22:58.05 | kergoth | so in those cases, if you have to install manually without make install.. do it. or add fakeroot to host build tools ;) |
| 22:58.12 | mallum | kergoth: do I even need fakeroot on the install as I now pass -u and -g to ipkg build ? |
| 22:58.27 | kergoth | probably not, unless the x makefiles make stupid assumptions |
| 22:58.32 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 22:58.32 | mallum | kergoth: it'd be a pain to install every file 'by hand' as there are alot of them in matchbox |
| 22:58.35 | kergoth | i dont know what you're using it for |
| 22:58.37 | file | mm? |
| 22:58.41 | kergoth | yeah, i know |
| 22:59.11 | mallum | kergoth: in matchbox I do like a make DESTDIR=`pwd`/build install |
| 22:59.40 | mallum | kergoth: copy the CONTROL stuff in and then ipkg build ./build |
| 22:59.51 | kergoth | yeah, thats pretty common |
| 23:00.13 | mallum | the matchbox package has a make ipkg target which does the above |
| 23:00.27 | mallum | but I do the DESTDIR bit under fakeroot |
| 23:01.06 | kergoth | well, the question is, does the install target have hardcoded commands like chown 0.0, or what have you |
| 23:01.18 | kergoth | if it runs without exploding as a user without fakeroot, you dont need it ::) |
| 23:01.19 | mallum | no I dont think so |
| 23:01.43 | CosmicPenguin | ARGH! |
| 23:01.47 | mallum | cool, I'll strip it out |
| 23:01.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: problems? |
| 23:02.06 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.15 | CosmicPenguin | where head buffer is an array of chars |
| 23:02.27 | CosmicPenguin | No wonder it was a freaking bus fault |
| 23:02.29 | kergoth | uh |
| 23:02.50 | kergoth | ~lart whomever wrote that code |
| 23:04.32 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: wow |
| 23:05.45 | mallum | hmm, my matchbox in cvs doesn't use fakeroot anymore ... ( /me wonders is prplanuge is reallu up to date ) |
| 23:07.44 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: its name when he's not around for nickname completion, huh? :) |
| 23:07.55 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.12 | mallum | yeah :-) |
| 23:19.01 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: they sell an extension cable so you can use the Z keyboard and have it plugged in at the same time, right? |
| 23:19.13 | CosmicPenguin | I mean, plugged in via USB |
| 23:19.16 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:19.21 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: quick link? |
| 23:19.28 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: if you're busy, I can froogle it |
| 23:19.32 | kergoth | sharp links to it off of zaurus.com or myzaurus.com |
| 23:19.34 | kergoth | i forget which |
| 23:21.24 | CosmicPenguin | 40 bucks... :) |
| 23:21.58 | kergoth | I really like bt, but dont own any bt hardware atm |
| 23:24.45 | CosmicPenguin | I've got a nice BT CF and PCMCIA card not doing anything |
| 23:25.36 | chouimat | BT? |
| 23:27.25 | chouimat | ok bluetooth |