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| 00:02.19 | ab0oo | Ooooh, opie-irc works... |
| 00:02.33 | file | chouimat: KFC? you're making me hungry |
| 00:05.27 | ab0oo | can someone tell me if a JTAG for a satellite receiver will work on a Tuxscreen? |
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| 00:10.02 | ab0oo | Can't type on an ipaq very well. BZFlag - are you out of JTAGs? |
| 00:10.36 | TimRiker | ab0oo: yeah. email aelph1 |
| 00:11.02 | TimRiker | ab0oo: jtag from another device should work, but you have to get the driver configured. |
| 00:11.10 | ab0oo | do you know if a JTAG from ebay (like the ones that they use on satellite receivers to hack them) will work? |
| 00:11.58 | TimRiker | you need a driver for the jtag adapter, and then a config for what device you are talking to. |
| 00:12.15 | TimRiker | in jflash the config is compiled in. |
| 00:12.48 | ab0oo | Ahh, I see. Does your Wiki have aleph1's email addr? |
| 00:17.41 | chouimat | hi TimRiker |
| 00:19.25 | TimRiker | ~google for aelph1 and jtag |
| 00:19.34 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 00:20.48 | ab0oo | bad bot day. I'm googling now. Does anyone here have a JTAG they want to unload? |
| 00:21.18 | TimRiker | http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ |
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| 00:22.41 | chouimat|tv | wooooooooooooooohhoooooooooooooooooooooooooo 2 weeks off |
| 00:23.40 | file | chouimat|tv: congrats |
| 00:23.52 | ab0oo | BZFlag - does Opie run on the TuxScreen? |
| 00:24.38 | file | chouimat|tv: does this mean I'll get to reinstall Gentoo soon using a raid0 setup with that new hardrive? |
| 00:25.03 | chouimat|tv | file: soon |
| 00:25.12 | file | chouimat|tv: nifty |
| 00:26.00 | TimRiker | ab0oo: I think someone did it, but there's not enough internal flash, so it would need nfs or a storage card. |
| 00:26.41 | ab0oo | I can do NFS via 802.11b (atleast I could before I bricked the whole shebang). Thanks. |
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| 02:11.49 | chouimat|tv | http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/9534/pippi/name.htm |
| 02:13.39 | chouimat|tv | http://www.modestypanel.com/SorSE/# |
| 02:16.21 | chouimat|tv | sorphin: try the last one :P |
| 02:17.14 | chouimat|tv | sorphin: ok |
| 02:17.16 | sorphin | that # at the end implies you clicked on a javascript link :P |
| 02:17.29 | sorphin | the only gui machine atm is burning a dvd |
| 02:18.19 | chouimat|tv | sorphin: I pasted it from kopete my brothher send it |
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| 02:31.23 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
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| 03:09.36 | sorphin | TimRiker: evening |
| 04:23.31 | Russ | anyone with an oscilliscope bored? |
| 04:54.36 | sorphin | Russ: depends |
| 04:55.32 | Russ | I just want somebody to hook a 3 wire fan up to it |
| 04:55.38 | Russ | having trouble finding docs |
| 04:57.01 | sorphin | ah |
| 04:57.15 | sorphin | wanna know the kinda signal the tach lead outputs? |
| 04:57.32 | Russ | ya |
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| 05:01.12 | sorphin | nod |
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| 05:01.53 | Russ | http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/archives/33-01/chip/index.html |
| 05:02.54 | sorphin | all my MBs have monitoring |
| 05:18.50 | sorphin | Russ: couple more mins, hooking up atm |
| 05:26.55 | sorphin | very noisy square wave |
| 05:34.50 | sorphin | Russ: w/ the fan going full speed, i got a very dirty 175hz square wave |
| 05:35.08 | sorphin | and obviously as the fan slows, the freq decreases |
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| 05:43.53 | Russ | what is the pulse length? |
| 05:44.18 | Russ | or is it about 50% dity |
| 05:44.19 | Russ | er, duty |
| 05:46.02 | Russ | describe "dirty" |
| 05:46.19 | Russ | just varies around 175Hz, or very unsquare |
| 05:47.40 | sorphin | a square wave w/ noise on the square |
| 05:59.21 | Russ | ok |
| 05:59.23 | Russ | thanks |
| 06:02.09 | sorphin | nod |
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| 14:12.24 | sieve | morning all |
| 14:12.34 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:13.02 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 14:13.39 | prpplague | chouimat: yo |
| 14:18.23 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
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| 14:43.37 | chouimat | sorphin: welcome to the club |
| 14:45.34 | sorphin | chouimat: you don't have people harassing you like here :P |
| 14:46.38 | chouimat | sorphin: no just computer illeterate that call and yell on the phone ;-P |
| 14:48.00 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: that happens everywhere |
| 14:48.32 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I know put the one I got this morning ..... |
| 14:53.15 | jnork | I just need a job |
| 14:57.32 | jnork | Must be slow at UPS or something. I ordered this tea YESTERDAY. Standard delivery. |
| 15:00.14 | CosmicPenguin | uhhh.... you know that UPS standard delivery is *not* overnight? |
| 15:12.26 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:12.50 | sorphin | standard delivery is anywhere up to 6-7 days depending on from where to where :P |
| 15:13.00 | sorphin | standard = ground |
| 15:13.06 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.16 | sorphin | tho |
| 15:13.26 | sorphin | i prefer fedex gnd, if i'm gonna use gnd anyways |
| 15:14.37 | CosmicPenguin | Nah - Fedex ground sucks - they are disorganized and confused |
| 15:14.58 | CosmicPenguin | Fedex air rules though |
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| 15:25.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i've had no probs w/ fedex gnd |
| 15:25.31 | sorphin | and unlike w/ ups |
| 15:25.40 | sorphin | my packages arrive intact :P |
| 15:25.43 | sorphin | but then i'm biased |
| 15:25.54 | sorphin | as a loader/unloader |
| 15:26.00 | sorphin | so i know how packages get treated |
| 15:29.15 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I can only judge by the packages that we got for the wedding. Fedex ground sometimes would have to make three trips a day because they "forgot" a package or put it on the wrong truck |
| 15:30.38 | CosmicPenguin | Though, the one thing that was broken did come from UPS |
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| 15:48.55 | MonMotha | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/02/2034234&mode=nested&tid=146&tid=99 |
| 15:49.02 | MonMotha | some of the stories on that page are hilarious |
| 15:49.20 | MonMotha | 1.2 MegaFarad caps? :) |
| 15:53.18 | chouimat | MonMotha: we call that a house :) |
| 15:56.14 | MonMotha | no kidding |
| 15:56.37 | CosmicPenguin | Thats alotta farads.... |
| 15:56.48 | chouimat | I won't put my finger on it |
| 15:57.45 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - that would probably hurt a bit |
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| 16:01.45 | sjhill | Run! Run! it's the Devil! |
| 16:03.43 | sorphin | sjhill: um... we already know you're the devil, steve |
| 16:04.18 | sorphin | theDevil-: careful, unless you wannt be left w/ the taste of MIPS in your mouth :P |
| 16:04.39 | theDevil- | MIPS is of the devil |
| 16:05.05 | kergoth | woot |
| 16:05.10 | kergoth | i have a computer finally |
| 16:05.41 | sorphin | theDevil-: then sjhill is truely the devil, since he is MIPS incarnate |
| 16:05.57 | sorphin | kergoth: ah, they gave you the old 286 from the janitors closet eh? |
| 16:05.59 | chouimat | kergoth: another week and you will get your cube |
| 16:06.19 | theDevil- | hehe |
| 16:06.30 | kergoth | there's no room on tim's desk to set my laptop |
| 16:06.34 | kergoth | i really need a cubicle :) |
| 16:06.59 | chouimat | kergoth: you can in the toilet and pretend it''s your cubicle :) |
| 16:07.50 | jnork | Yeah, I realize that UPS standard delivery is not overnight. |
| 16:08.08 | sorphin | chouimat: um.. we don't wanna know |
| 16:08.27 | prpplague | kergoth: argh, dgrp problems this morning, and now no one to complain to :| |
| 16:08.29 | sorphin | kergoth: tim's desk that small or that full? |
| 16:08.37 | jnork | I just looked at the box; looks like Harney uses 3 Day Select when you choose "standard" delivery. |
| 16:08.37 | chouimat | sorphin: it was a very bad joke, I admit it |
| 16:08.56 | kergoth | sorphin: full |
| 16:09.02 | kergoth | prpplague: ack |
| 16:09.17 | jnork | It still got here the day after I ordered it. |
| 16:09.21 | kergoth | that reminds me, i should test the dgrp ipks buildroot builds |
| 16:09.30 | sorphin | jnork: you're close enough then :P |
| 16:09.46 | jnork | I think they're in Connecticut. |
| 16:09.56 | prpplague | kergoth: gettings kernel oops from the dgrp module |
| 16:10.16 | jnork | New York. |
| 16:10.19 | prpplague | kergoth: fun fun |
| 16:10.47 | jnork | In any case, it'll be a while before I run out of tea. :) |
| 16:11.23 | kergoth | prpplague: ouch |
| 16:13.17 | sorphin | ya kno, local telco still has old products on the side of their truck (i.e. their name for ISDN), i'll never be able to loo at anything w/ the work Digi in it and not think of kergoth :P in this case, DigiLine :P |
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| 16:38.52 | chouimat | hi tim |
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| 17:48.15 | sorphin | TomW: allo gramps |
| 17:49.05 | sjhill | TomW: tell us a story grandpa!! |
| 17:49.25 | sjhill | TomW: tell us about the bad man who got slapped with a fish! |
| 17:49.37 | sorphin | sjhill: don't you have some MIPS to corrupt? |
| 17:49.44 | sorphin | hmm |
| 17:49.49 | sorphin | bad man slapped w/ a fish eh |
| 17:49.53 | sorphin | ~fishslap sjhill |
| 17:49.54 | | ACTION slaps sjhill up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:49.56 | sorphin | must be you |
| 17:50.12 | TomW | sjhill: heh, did you? |
| 17:50.30 | chouimat|busy | hi tomw |
| 17:50.44 | TomW | sjhill: I had the Tax-man on the phone, he wants me to pay them monen |
| 17:50.52 | TomW | s/monen/money/ |
| 17:51.09 | sorphin | TomW: guess what, i'm gonna be etching a board again soon :P |
| 17:51.32 | TomW | sorphin: lots of nasty chemicals layout around, eh? |
| 17:52.02 | sorphin | TomW: been trying to decide |
| 17:52.10 | sorphin | old style ferric chloride |
| 17:52.16 | TomW | I told the tax collector that today was a good day for them to call, that I was busy shredding documents! |
| 17:52.19 | sorphin | ammonium persulfate |
| 17:52.26 | sorphin | or a new one i heard about |
| 17:52.40 | sorphin | sulfuric acid and hydrogen peroxide |
| 17:53.44 | TomW | sorphin: I haven't etched a board in about 3..4 years now. I just ftp the data into the board house and let them deal with it. I found that it is cheaper that way: I spend a whole lot less time building a board! |
| 17:53.56 | sorphin | hhe |
| 17:53.59 | sorphin | heh even |
| 17:54.02 | sorphin | how's that cheaper? :P |
| 17:54.17 | sorphin | fscking express PCB wants $100 for a damn board and makes you get 2 of em |
| 17:54.33 | sorphin | this is costing me far less :P |
| 17:55.33 | TomW | well, figure it this way, I got better things to do with my time than spend 4..6 hours getting ready to etch a board, setting up the equipment, etching it, maybe fsking up the first time and having to re-etch another one, then there is the clean up time, then the time to put stuff away... |
| 17:57.14 | TomW | sorphin: then, most of my boards are now at least two layer boards and that is a bitch to do yourself. because of the pain it is to solder in all the feed through vias / pads, it is better to have a pre made pcb that already has plated through holes on it. |
| 17:58.35 | TomW | I had to layout a two layer board that I would etch myself differently than if I were to order it made from a board house: e.g. I would have to avoid using an IC pin as an electrical feed thru. |
| 18:22.05 | sorphin | TomW`shredder: the board is front/back, so i guess that's 2 layer, and for me it's just print, press & peel, etch, done :P very little cleanup/setup, this is just that 2nd board for the flash programmer |
| 18:22.15 | sorphin | and i'm not paying $100 for such a simple fscking board |
| 18:22.18 | sorphin | no way |
| 18:23.10 | sorphin | TomW`shredder: and maybe you have "better things to do with your time", i dunno feed the pigeons or somehting :P but it's not like my weekends (except when seeing sarah) aren't free :P |
| 18:23.14 | sorphin | and boring otherwise |
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| 19:05.08 | chouimat|busy | yay! I have not place to leave next month |
| 19:06.07 | chouimat|busy | s/leave/live |
| 19:08.47 | CosmicPenguin | sentence parser: segmentation fault |
| 19:09.56 | chouimat|busy | CosmicPenguin: I don't have an appartment for july ... |
| 19:11.05 | sorphin | chouimat|busy: pay your rent then :P |
| 19:13.27 | chouimat|busy | sorphin: I pay it's just that the one I found I can't have it for some reasons so I'm moving back to my mother house temporaly :( |
| 19:14.06 | sorphin | ummm |
| 19:23.27 | chouimat|busy | sorphin: don't ask ... |
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| 19:34.41 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, "better things to do with your time": shred old records. |
| 19:34.46 | TomW | he |
| 19:34.48 | TomW | heh |
| 19:35.04 | file | greetings all |
| 19:41.01 | Russ | sorphin: did I not point you to run.to/pcb |
| 19:41.32 | Russ | $26 for however many boards you can fit on a panel |
| 19:47.19 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:47.57 | Russ | how much is a double side 160mmx100mm copper clad board? |
| 19:48.06 | TomW | warning to all: never, ever, get involved in a DOE contract! They are picky bastards! |
| 19:50.02 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: but of course - you had to have known that going in... :) |
| 19:50.10 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: I've heard that DoD is much worse |
| 19:50.24 | Russ | $6? |
| 19:51.26 | Russ | transfer paper per sheet, $3? |
| 19:51.46 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: I got sucked into this one by a customer. He wanted a quote on a something that he ultimately was selling to DOE. I think that I am going to have to start charging this guy a lot more money from now on if he is going to do much more of this! |
| 19:52.08 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: its the American way.... |
| 19:52.20 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: yeah. :) |
| 19:52.47 | Russ | 32oz ferric chloride, $12 |
| 19:53.22 | Russ | then there is the drilling, the panelization, the drilling, the fuckups |
| 19:54.09 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: come to think of it, he sells a lot of stuff to DoD, we never had the load of trouble from DoD that we are getting from DoE (Oak Ridge Nuc Labs) |
| 19:54.56 | Russ | http://www.olimex.com/pcb/ron.html heh |
| 19:57.02 | jnork | Russ: Thanks for that link... been wondering how to do small runs of small PCBs without a lot of hassle (or expense). |
| 19:59.25 | Russ | the only hassle is that you have to send them a fax |
| 19:59.29 | Russ | (for payment) |
| 20:02.40 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: ... then it might be time to clean up the work area instead of coding today? |
| 20:04.21 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, thats a good idea |
| 20:04.33 | CosmicPenguin | I can't remember if I have a desk or not... :) |
| 20:04.47 | CosmicPenguin | But something must be keeping the monitor up |
| 20:12.03 | CosmicPenguin | But first, errands.... gotsta hit the bank |
| 20:16.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:16.40 | sorphin | 'nor fuckups :P |
| 20:20.05 | sorphin | 9 weeks for a MAX232CPE according to this page |
| 20:22.25 | chouimat|busy | huh? |
| 20:23.34 | sorphin | chouimat|busy: don't worry about it, i don't feel like translating it into frenchy |
| 20:31.09 | prpplague | sorphin: why not just order some from jameco or something? |
| 20:35.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:35.43 | sorphin | prpplague: was just looking, i could prolly get them local :P you know i like to sample when i can tho *g*, which reminds me, need to bug microchip, meant to have 2 pics, but only got 1 |
| 21:04.41 | CosmicPenguin | Sigh - still not motivated |
| 21:05.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: heard from scott? |
| 21:05.52 | Russ | national semi has an equivelent |
| 21:07.04 | jnork | Tried Digikey? |
| 21:09.09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, he's a regular PIMA |
| 21:09.32 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: lord help you if you use the NatSemi chips - Might as well wire wrap the transistors yourself... :) |
| 21:13.48 | sorphin | jnork: ah, you mean digiscam? |
| 21:22.51 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: better than a 9 week lead time |
| 21:28.02 | jnork | sorphin, I guess you don't like them, eh? |
| 21:56.54 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: did you get the cdd yesterday? |
| 21:57.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 21:57.40 | prpplague | chouimat|busy: sorry no |
| 21:58.32 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: ok ... I have some new here that might interest you |
| 21:58.59 | prpplague | chouimat|busy: ok, when i get home tonight, i'll message you |
| 22:01.25 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: ok ... I found a nice dsl provider that I will be able to have next month (no cap) |
| 22:01.56 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: static ip :) |
| 22:02.02 | prpplague | fun |
| 22:02.36 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: and I will be aable to have it at my mother's house too (I have no choice to go back there) |
| 22:05.13 | prpplague | oh? |
| 22:06.01 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: I just got the new that the appartment I found here (with a lot of pain, about the 5678 calls I made) I can't have it so ... |
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| 22:16.10 | sorphin | Russ: my copper board was $1.75 for a more than big enough sheet, xfer paper was $12 for i think 5 sheets :P |
| 22:16.35 | sorphin | Russ: as for the 9 week lead time, was just a comment, as i said, i can prolly get em at the local place |
| 22:16.41 | sorphin | seeing as they're DIPs |
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| 23:31.02 | mallum | scanline: is cia your invention ? |
| 23:31.28 | scanline | mostly |
| 23:32.41 | mallum | scanline: very nice ;-), the stats page is very cool :-) |
| 23:33.27 | scanline | thanks :) |
| 23:34.28 | scanline | I wrote all the code that's running on navi.picogui.org, njs wrote the CVS-specific parts, TD had the idea to make the bot work with projects other than picogui :) |
| 23:36.07 | chouimat | hi all |
| 23:42.58 | file | chouimat: pack up that HD and send it off when you're moving over... |
| 23:43.12 | chouimat | file: hehe |
| 23:46.01 | file | Ashton's! |
| 23:46.34 | chouimat | file: it's about a 45 minutes walk from where I live |
| 23:48.53 | chouimat | file: maybe I will go |
| 23:49.52 | file | get a broiled hot dog with a regular fries |
| 23:51.46 | chouimat | file: bah |
| 23:52.07 | file | chouimat: baby = regular and regular=large... right? |
| 23:52.18 | file | cause the regular fries I got were huge... (lots of them) |
| 23:52.20 | chouimat | file: yup |
| 23:52.33 | file | I thought so |