| 01:08.19 | Russ | Mrs Diamantopoulou has so far succeeded in pushing through legislation such as a "Vibrations Directive" limiting the time farmers can spend on tractors and a "Noise Directive" restricting decibel levels in the workplace. |
| 01:08.29 | Russ | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/06/25/wpage25.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/06/25/ixnewstop.html |
| 01:08.48 | Russ | crazy feminist thinks some people are getting too much vibration.... |
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| 01:29.12 | chouimat | hi |
| 01:31.07 | Russ | afternoon |
| 01:36.32 | chouimat | moving while it's 37C outside is not fun |
| 01:37.04 | Russ | at least it doesn't reach 50C there |
| 01:37.43 | chouimat | Russ: I lost a lot of water today |
| 01:38.08 | Russ | ice and water is cheap |
| 01:38.14 | Russ | drink a few gallons |
| 01:38.40 | chouimat | it's 21h37 I will soon go to bed |
| 01:39.09 | Russ | you guys on daylight savings or something? |
| 01:39.47 | chouimat | Russ: EDT |
| 01:39.57 | Russ | bummer |
| 01:40.21 | Russ | always seemed to me that it would be during the winter that daylight would need to be conserved, since there is so much less of it |
| 01:40.35 | chouimat | and I on sloooooowdem |
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| 01:41.33 | Russ | slowdem? |
| 01:41.40 | Russ | is that like a 300 baud modem? |
| 01:41.50 | chouimat | 33.6 |
| 01:42.02 | Russ | eh |
| 01:42.08 | Russ | not so bad being on a modem |
| 01:42.12 | Russ | just sucks for gaming |
| 01:42.17 | chouimat | Russ: I had cable before the move |
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| 02:54.05 | chouimat | night |
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| 05:44.24 | jacques | andersee: you see the post by vanstadentenbrink@ahcfaust.nl to l-k about linksys, belkin, and buffalo? |
| 05:44.43 | andersee | jacques: I saw it |
| 05:44.51 | andersee | jacques: ignoring it for now |
| 05:49.58 | jacques | andersee: ah ok |
| 06:02.24 | andersee | jacques: I've contacted the folks in question and done what needs to be done. |
| 06:02.44 | andersee | jacques: so I figured I'd skip adding to the offtopic noise |
| 06:04.22 | jacques | good point - that is pretty OT for l-k |
| 06:05.15 | jacques | i guess i was wondering if you had heard from belkin and buffalo - i know you heard from cisco |
| 06:06.06 | andersee | Not yet re Belkin and Buffalo. |
| 06:11.16 | jacques | andersee: how's 0.9.20 coming? :-D |
| 06:11.39 | andersee | jacques: coming |
| 06:11.41 | andersee | :) |
| 06:11.50 | andersee | Real Soon Now(tm) |
| 06:12.14 | andersee | Monday at the latest... |
| 06:12.50 | jacques | :-D |
| 06:13.25 | jacques | did you ever find how binutils 2.14 broke things in the toolchain build? |
| 06:14.06 | andersee | jacques: nah, I just reverted for now |
| 06:14.12 | jacques | ok |
| 06:14.17 | andersee | jacques: I did confirm the breakage though |
| 06:14.26 | jacques | good |
| 06:14.42 | jacques | i thoght there was a tiny chance it was my rh system |
| 06:15.26 | jacques | some interaction with gcc 2.96 |
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| 12:03.03 | TomW | yawn |
| 12:03.12 | TomW | good morning |
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| 12:53.50 | TomW | <sigh> my subscription to Mandrake linux will expire in 3 days.. |
| 12:54.28 | TomW | I suppose that I will have erase all my systems and get some other o/s to install? |
| 12:54.36 | chouimat | hi |
| 12:54.41 | TomW | :D |
| 12:54.45 | paq_ | yes! they'll install MS-DOS 5.0 on your machine =P |
| 12:54.58 | TomW | naw, PC-DOS 4.0 |
| 12:55.07 | paq_ | with trumpet winsock and all.. |
| 12:55.42 | TomW | ... and a buggy drive allocation scheme that wraps your harddrive when you max the storage out.. |
| 12:56.16 | TomW | much much better screwup than MSDOS 2.0 |
| 12:56.27 | paq_ | heh.. what's in 2.0? |
| 12:56.36 | TomW | not much, heh |
| 12:57.09 | TomW | I do recall having run msdos v1.x at some point in time. |
| 12:57.46 | TomW | IIRC, msdos 2.0 allowed you to create more than 64 subdirectories. |
| 12:58.41 | TomW | something like that anyway, there was a limit on the number of dirs. IIRC, it was that under 1.0 you could not create a subdirectory, only a directory in the root. |
| 12:59.50 | paq_ | hmm.. storage medium used were mostly 5.25" floppies? |
| 13:00.16 | TomW | five more minutes and I can call the head of engineering at a company to see if he will release the info I need for a project. He told me to call him between 9-9:30 this AM. Guess he is a really busy guy!? |
| 13:00.28 | TomW | then I can get some sleep. |
| 13:03.32 | TomW | paq_: yeah, think so, I think it was on 2.0 that we had a system with a whopping 10 Meg hard drive on the machine, blazing along at something like 4.77MHz? |
| 13:05.40 | paq_ | heh.. that's the original ibm pc's speed, wasn't it.. |
| 13:05.48 | chouimat | yup |
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| 14:03.15 | sieve | morning all |
| 14:03.23 | chouimat | morning sieve |
| 14:14.04 | chouimat | i want my highspeed connectionn back!!!!!! |
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| 14:44.42 | chouimat | morning kergoth CosmicPenguin |
| 14:44.47 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:44.56 | kergoth | ibot: wednesday |
| 14:44.57 | | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 14:45.18 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: morning |
| 14:45.18 | chouimat | kergoth: the move is completed, just need to get a new adsl connection |
| 14:45.19 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: morning |
| 14:45.39 | kergoth | chouimat: cool |
| 14:46.13 | chouimat | kergoth: everything is still in boxes but the computers are plugged ;) |
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| 15:02.09 | chouimat | ok I will be back later |
| 15:09.23 | CosmicPenguin | Bah - kvirc. I used to use that once |
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| 18:12.51 | TomW | bah! Looks like I will have to travel to Texas for about 5..6 days, in mid-July no less! :( |
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| 18:24.24 | chouimat | re |
| 18:26.21 | paq_ | wb |
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| 19:50.05 | CosmicPenguin | grr.... |
| 19:50.11 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: you around? |
| 19:52.24 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: g'day |
| 19:52.55 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: nm |
| 19:53.42 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: ??? |
| 19:53.52 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: s'up? |
| 19:54.13 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I was going to ask you a question about init, but I think I figured it out |
| 19:54.25 | andersee | hmmk |
| 19:56.20 | CosmicPenguin | I'm trying to write a getty like app that provides a boot menu for spawning GUIs |
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| 19:56.45 | kergoth | you're working on it eh? nice |
| 19:56.50 | CosmicPenguin | And when I try to spawn midnight commander, it disappears into the ether |
| 19:57.34 | CosmicPenguin | And for some reason, ps reports that the child pid lives on the pseudotty that I spawned the parent in, not on the tty I opened for it |
| 19:58.00 | CosmicPenguin | So I dunno.... |
| 19:58.11 | kergoth | forget to close stdin, stderr, stdout when you spawned the child? children normally inherit them from the parent |
| 19:58.29 | CosmicPenguin | I know - thats whats wierd - the bootmenu works fine |
| 19:58.36 | kergoth | odd |
| 19:58.39 | CosmicPenguin | So does something simple like tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 19:59.26 | CosmicPenguin | But I think I'm missing a command somewhere - because when I spawn login and exit, it closes the pty |
| 20:01.43 | CosmicPenguin | And I am currently without my Steven's book, so I don't know the magic command I need to tell my apps the correct TTY |
| 20:02.13 | kergoth | iirc the sample code that accompanies the book is avail online |
| 20:02.17 | kergoth | found it one day |
| 20:02.52 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... I think I need to update utmp... that my be my problem |
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| 20:29.04 | Russ | andersee: any word from cisco/linksys today? |
| 20:30.34 | andersee | Russ: not yet |
| 20:31.13 | andersee | Russ: but they might have mailed my dad, and he is probably in court today. |
| 20:38.43 | CosmicPenguin | What the heck is Nagle delay? |
| 20:53.16 | Russ | the delay nagle causes? |
| 20:53.53 | jnork | http://www.wimvincken.com/IPMediation/documents/nagle_algorithm.htm |
| 20:54.11 | jnork | I didn't read that, but I bet it answers the question. |
| 21:03.22 | CosmicPenguin | yep - saw that |
| 21:11.18 | fontenot | is that exponential backoff ? |
| 21:11.54 | CosmicPenguin | kindof |
| 21:21.24 | andersee | Anybody else getting a zillion "please see the attached zip file" email viruses today? |
| 21:41.51 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I was getting a zillon last week |
| 21:58.38 | CosmicPenguin | brb |
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| 23:13.55 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the proper way to credit a GPL project if you used it study how to do something, but didn't nessesarly copy code? |
| 23:17.37 | Russ | * Ideas shamelessly stolen from [package x] by [so and so] <foo@bar> |
| 23:18.00 | Russ | aka, be honest |
| 23:19.29 | CosmicPenguin | You mean like "Procedure borrowed from <package> because I couldn't find my Steven's book?" |
| 23:19.39 | Russ | something like that |
| 23:19.53 | Russ | its pretty simple so long as your package is gpl |
| 23:20.55 | CosmicPenguin | Well, its really not simple though - given recent events, the more precise the better |
| 23:21.05 | CosmicPenguin | You never know when somebody will get pissy over copyrights |
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| 23:23.14 | Russ | recent events has nothing to do with nit picking |