| 00:03.27 | andersee | jacques: when you went to highschool, the beetles were probably still a band |
| 00:03.30 | andersee | ;-) |
| 00:07.40 | jnork | That's Beatles, and Let It Be came out when I was in Jr. High. |
| 00:08.05 | jnork | I also used to own a '69 Beetle. |
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| 01:27.28 | jacques | andersee: lol |
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| 01:36.11 | file | chouimat: hi |
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| 12:39.40 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:45.03 | jnork | Hello. |
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| 14:25.18 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
| 14:25.36 | kergoth | morning |
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| 14:30.09 | sieve | morning all |
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| 14:41.08 | jnork | Morning |
| 14:45.13 | sorphin | jnork: least you only said morning |
| 14:45.16 | sorphin | had you said good |
| 14:45.22 | sorphin | i'd have to hurt you |
| 14:49.34 | CosmicPenguin | ohhh - is sorphin having a bad day? |
| 14:51.19 | jnork | Yesterday was pretty good for me. Had a good interview. |
| 14:51.28 | jnork | Today's not bad so far. |
| 14:51.30 | chouimat | hi jnork sorphin CosmicPenguin |
| 14:55.23 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you were saying? :P |
| 14:56.09 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, well.... I'll only be doing this for 10 minutes |
| 14:56.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's longer than i'll be doing anything today... oh wait.. i don't do anything but slack now, that's right ;) |
| 14:58.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: least you get paid |
| 14:58.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: like i see most/any of it :P |
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| 15:09.38 | prpplague | TimRiker: morning mr.omap |
| 15:10.29 | sorphin | and there's dave to sme^H^H^Hliven the place up *g* |
| 15:11.00 | prpplague | sorphin: ha ha |
| 15:13.29 | CosmicPenguin | Sigh..... my web service provider is a real flake |
| 15:14.22 | file | CosmicPenguin: I do web hosting! |
| 15:14.35 | CosmicPenguin | file: quote me a price |
| 15:14.57 | file | CosmicPenguin: one moment |
| 15:15.35 | file | $9.95/mth |
| 15:16.00 | file | 750MB storage, 20GB bandwidth, 1 SQL database, 2 SSH/FTP/POP accounts, 200 POP accounts, perl, php, account control panel |
| 15:16.11 | file | (and no - I'm not making any money off of that) |
| 15:16.22 | file | you get your own ip... |
| 15:16.51 | file | OR - $2.95/mth for 100MB storage, 5GB bandwidth, 1 FTP/POP account, 50 POP accounts, perl, php, account control panel, shared ip |
| 15:16.59 | CosmicPenguin | file: I need a VPS |
| 15:17.13 | CosmicPenguin | Actually, I only need 1 VPS and one shared |
| 15:17.23 | file | the way the cluster is setup I can't do VPS |
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| 15:17.51 | file | hi Master MIPS |
| 15:17.58 | file | and there's no setup fee!!! ;) |
| 15:18.11 | file | CosmicPenguin: I can have it setup in like 5 minutes... okay I'm done pitching my service |
| 15:18.12 | sjhill | nope, i don't charge a set up fee |
| 15:19.42 | file | CosmicPenguin: what's your opinion on my prices? |
| 15:20.23 | CosmicPenguin | file: nice and low. But I need a full system where I can do stupid stuff like complie and install my own perl scripts |
| 15:20.39 | file | CosmicPenguin: you can do that with the $9.95/mth |
| 15:21.00 | file | CosmicPenguin: I know the admin so I can probably grant you permission to compile apps and stuff |
| 15:21.23 | CosmicPenguin | file: I've been down that road again. I want my own system, not something controlled by an admin |
| 15:21.45 | file | oh well - can't blame me for trying |
| 15:22.18 | CosmicPenguin | file: oh, definately not |
| 15:23.10 | file | CosmicPenguin: but eh you wanted shared hosting too... what about that? |
| 15:24.41 | file | CosmicPenguin: I was once into VPS based stuff - how have they worked out for you? |
| 15:25.03 | TimRiker | looking for a crypto hacker for arm/omap linux. anyone else want to move to dallas? |
| 15:25.23 | file | TimRiker: nope, can't say I do |
| 15:25.28 | TimRiker | heh |
| 15:25.41 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: One word - telecommuting |
| 15:27.47 | file | CosmicPenguin: know anybody that would be interested in hosting? |
| 15:28.15 | CosmicPenguin | file: not at the moment |
| 15:30.48 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: I'll ask. it's not a position in my group. |
| 15:31.24 | sorphin | TimRiker: definately telecommuting |
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| 16:27.12 | Russ | morning andersee |
| 16:36.15 | andersee | morning Russ |
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| 17:25.54 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: http://www.cosmicpenguin.net/bootmenu/ |
| 17:26.42 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: It needs work before it can be used in buildroot - I haven't even tried it on the Z yet |
| 17:26.58 | file | CosmicPenguin: you should change the title on that page... since it's not Tuxpal Drivers ;) |
| 17:27.03 | CosmicPenguin | dammit |
| 17:28.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:35.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: heard from scott "i'll pay you next month" johnson? |
| 17:35.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nope. He got back from vacation, and I sent him an .RPM with the new server stuff on it |
| 17:35.56 | CosmicPenguin | But nothing yet |
| 17:36.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: any $$? |
| 17:37.03 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
| 17:37.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not a dime |
| 17:38.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so i still own the code right now? |
| 17:40.13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep |
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| 17:55.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok |
| 17:55.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did the web folks ever get back to you? |
| 17:55.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how much does he owe you now? |
| 17:56.33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: web folks? |
| 17:56.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: 3 grand |
| 17:56.54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: though not all the work was completed - so we could probably settle for somewhere in the area of $1500 - $2000 |
| 17:57.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok well, if he doesn't settle up soon, i'll buy it |
| 18:03.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Sounds good to me. |
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| 18:08.23 | TomW | hello world! |
| 18:08.52 | prpplague | bad command or file name |
| 18:08.58 | TomW | argh! |
| 18:09.12 | TomW | prpplague: you back in Texas again? |
| 18:09.20 | prpplague | yep, got back sunday night |
| 18:09.36 | TomW | prpplague: I may be down there sometime next week. :( |
| 18:09.59 | prpplague | oh, nice weather, hot today, hot tomorrow, and a high probablity of hot the next day |
| 18:10.16 | TomW | prpplague: there is some air force base that I need to do a rush-job at writing some software at. |
| 18:10.25 | prpplague | fun fun |
| 18:10.33 | prpplague | thats probably in san anton |
| 18:10.47 | prpplague | a good 7 hour drive from where i am at :) |
| 18:11.26 | TomW | yeah, the saga continues.. My customer is squirming over the cost I quoted him: delivery on 10 days, work onsite != cheap. |
| 18:12.25 | TomW | prpplague: well, there is an upside, I will be able to "get away" from Pennsylvania for a while and I haven't seen my brother's new house in Perryville, Alabama yet.. |
| 18:13.26 | TomW | I still don't know if I'll go. I don't seem to think so, if I have to go onsite, it will cost my customer and additional $6K and he doesn't like that! |
| 18:16.02 | TomW | prpplague: where are you at? Dallas or Houston? |
| 18:18.49 | prpplague | TomW: 120 miles due east of dallas |
| 18:18.55 | prpplague | TomW: longview to be exact |
| 18:19.02 | prpplague | right on I-20 |
| 18:19.22 | TomW | k |
| 18:21.45 | TomW | hmm, 1500 miles to San Antonio, I still don't know where exactly it will be that I may have to go down there. I will be driving down so I am figuring that I will take four days to get there comfortably. |
| 18:22.33 | TomW | I just hope it is no where near El Paso! |
| 18:25.50 | fontenot | lol |
| 18:27.16 | TomW | fontenot: yeah, the thing is that I have a first date with a woman tomorrow night (movies) and I would like to know if I can invite her to a July 4th thing on Saturday, or, if I will be driving to Texas. :-/ |
| 18:27.48 | prpplague | TomW: fun |
| 18:28.05 | prpplague | TomW: i had to cancel one due to the trip to barbados and jamaica |
| 18:28.22 | TomW | I'm worried that if we go out tomorrow night, she may have to wait two weeks before I can ask her out again. She may have time to reconsider! |
| 18:28.27 | fontenot | TomW: i wish i had your problems |
| 18:28.34 | TomW | fontenot: heh |
| 18:29.36 | TomW | fontenot: why, you married and wished you were back in circulation or something? |
| 18:29.47 | TomW | heh |
| 18:30.29 | fontenot | TomW: no, single and not meeting anyone |
| 18:31.39 | TomW | fontenot: ah, I met her about 8 months ago and got to know her a bit, then she disappeared. I ran into her Saturday and I was determined that she was not going to get away again before I could get a date with her. :) |
| 18:32.18 | fontenot | TomW: nice going |
| 18:32.45 | prpplague | TomW: good luck :) |
| 18:34.24 | TomW | yah |
| 18:34.27 | fontenot | dang, gotta head back to the grindstone |
| 18:34.28 | TomW | thanks |
| 18:34.34 | TomW | heh |
| 18:39.25 | sorphin | rotfl |
| 18:39.59 | sorphin | gates considers linux a 'passing through OS like OS/2 was and that M$ will keep pushing new tech' |
| 18:40.28 | sorphin | he really is delusional |
| 18:40.37 | fontenot | he's insane |
| 18:40.50 | sorphin | TomW: what's up old man, what's this, you got some young chick to go out w/ you or somethin? |
| 18:41.13 | fontenot | of course, MS calls the jawbreaker game included in PPC2003 a new innovation and it's the same marbles game that's been out got years |
| 18:41.17 | fontenot | for |
| 18:42.02 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:58.48 | jnork | I don't think he's delusional. He's trying to convince people to buy Microsoft. |
| 18:59.50 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, found some woman who likes me. |
| 19:04.40 | sorphin | TomW: can she see you w/o coke bottle glasses? or is she blind? :P |
| 19:05.32 | TomW | sorphin: naw, just probably impressed with my sensitivity and honesty. |
| 19:11.52 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:11.55 | sorphin | an old sap |
| 19:11.59 | CosmicPenguin | Not to mention his soldering abilities |
| 19:16.22 | jacques | heh |
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| 19:43.23 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: no! What I do for a living will have to remain a deep, dark secret for a while. |
| 19:44.49 | jacques | yeah dont let her know yo're a nerd until it's too late |
| 19:46.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:47.00 | TomW | heh, reel her in first... |
| 19:47.24 | sorphin | TomW: hide the microscope |
| 19:47.27 | kergoth | yeah, set the hook so she cant get loose |
| 19:47.33 | TomW | heh |
| 19:47.59 | jacques | the idea is for her to ge to like you enough that when she finds out she's like, "well I guess I can live with that" |
| 19:48.21 | TomW | well, tell her that I do write some software for a living, maybe she won't completely understand what that means? |
| 19:49.06 | jacques | tell her you're a writer... no that implies no income |
| 20:14.26 | TomW | jacques: :D |
| 20:15.38 | TomW | jacques: I know, I'll just tell her that it is hard to explain what it is that I do for a living and I'll have to show her sometime.. That may interest her enough to come to my house to see? |
| 20:30.40 | Russ | TomW: I don't think she'll think its "exciting" |
| 20:30.52 | Russ | even if there are pretty graphics on the screen |
| 20:31.09 | Russ | oh...nm, you won't be showing her the computer screen |
| 20:31.17 | TomW | ;) |
| 20:31.47 | Russ | hide the oscilliscope |
| 20:32.03 | Russ | get some cheap wood and set it out to the soldering iron |
| 20:32.41 | TomW | Russ: done, it was broken anyway I gave it to a friend to see if he could do something with it. Also, I have been tossing a lot of old equipemnt to clean the place up these past few months. |
| 20:33.05 | TomW | although, I still have those stacks of WebPal & Tuxscreen boxes... |
| 20:33.41 | Russ | burn some "pretty" designs into the wood |
| 20:33.46 | TomW | heh |
| 20:33.48 | Russ | she'll think you are an artist or something |
| 20:34.01 | TomW | the only artwork I can turn out is code |
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| 20:47.41 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: any comments? |
| 20:55.35 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: havent had time to take a look, doing real work |
| 20:56.03 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I envy you |
| 20:56.18 | chouimat | kergoth: having fun? |
| 20:56.31 | kergoth | chouimat: yeah, OE just built an rpm of itself |
| 20:57.53 | chouimat | kergoth: wow I was 119delta behind for OE |
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| 20:59.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:00.05 | chouimat | kergoth: I knwo |
| 21:00.35 | jnork | Well, if _I_ could find somebody, it should be a cinch for TomW. |
| 21:00.53 | TomW | jnork: LOL |
| 21:01.47 | TomW | jnork: why? you like to scratch yourself in public and leer at the ladies or something? LOL |
| 21:02.07 | jnork | heh |
| 21:02.16 | jnork | Sure, why not? |
| 21:02.59 | TomW | jnork: I don't think that is "socially acceptable" behavoir in most circles.. |
| 21:04.39 | jnork | Some women enjoy being leered at... |
| 21:05.01 | TomW | prolly |
| 21:06.22 | jnork | But I don't think that "doesn't scratch himself in public" and "doesn't leer at the ladies" are the only criteria people use to decide who they like. :) |
| 21:06.45 | andersee | jnork: some people like to appear on the Jerry Springer show. That doesn't mean I want to spent time with them. |
| 21:06.55 | kergoth | Well said. |
| 21:08.48 | TomW | yes |
| 21:12.07 | CosmicPenguin | You can use LMBench to measure the networking of a remote system without running the binary on that system, right? |
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| 21:38.23 | CosmicPenguin | argh |
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| 22:19.41 | signal11 | curses!! |
| 22:21.21 | jacques | ncurses!!! |
| 22:21.30 | jacques | d;oh |
| 22:21.34 | jacques | I didnt see the line before |
| 22:21.44 | jacques | i should have said "slang!!!" |
| 22:21.54 | CosmicPenguin | The only platform I know that needs curses instead of ncurses is SCO |
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| 22:21.57 | CosmicPenguin | Not gonna go there... |
| 22:22.04 | jacques | heh good policy |
| 22:22.05 | CosmicPenguin | Hell, no, I won't SCO |
| 22:22.10 | jacques | :-D |
| 22:22.24 | CosmicPenguin | I'm SCO damn mad |
| 22:23.06 | chouimat | ouch a bad joke |
| 22:23.49 | CosmicPenguin | s/.o/SCO/ |
| 22:37.03 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: could you tone the profanity down a little, please? |
| 22:39.16 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: I'm SCOrry |
| 22:43.15 | Russ | andersee: did you get that email I sent out? |
| 22:49.38 | andersee | Russ: last night? yup |
| 22:52.37 | Russ | just checkin' |
| 22:52.46 | Russ | I can see why cisco hasn't called you yet |
| 22:53.55 | Russ | they can only be compliant by releasing code broadcom wrote, and they don't even have the gpl code, its in tiawann |
| 22:57.44 | file | call... COLLECT! |
| 22:58.18 | CosmicPenguin | 1-800-COLLECT for all your collect calls... :) |
| 22:58.45 | file | andersee: status of all your e-mails/complaints/stuff? |
| 23:00.04 | andersee | file: not much happenin' |
| 23:00.22 | andersee | file: Russ found a bunch of additional info yesterday. |
| 23:00.55 | andersee | file: But still no response from Buffalo and Belkin. And Linksys has responded but still is not in compliance |
| 23:01.13 | jacques | *cough* stall *cough* |
| 23:02.15 | file | ic |
| 23:02.34 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: nice. simple, clean, I like it. I do think we should create a plugin interface for display methods though (curses, libFB, evas, picogui, whatever) |
| 23:03.45 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: good idea |
| 23:03.52 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I was doing #ifdefs |
| 23:03.57 | kergoth | eek :) |
| 23:04.01 | CosmicPenguin | meh |
| 23:04.10 | CosmicPenguin | Its the life of the embedded app |
| 23:04.55 | kergoth | yeah, maybe make the plugin capability a build time option |
| 23:06.04 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a good idea. |
| 23:06.05 | Russ | kergoth: with ifdefs'? |
| 23:06.40 | CosmicPenguin | The basic menu is pretty much useless except on the Zaurus (since the ipaq doesn't have number keys) |
| 23:07.19 | CosmicPenguin | But pullilng in ncurses isn't always called for |
| 23:07.54 | CosmicPenguin | So we should have basic LINUX term code built in (for arrow keys and stuff) |
| 23:08.03 | CosmicPenguin | and then plugin everything else |
| 23:08.11 | kergoth | yeah, give it a plugin interface, but if the appropriate build option is selected, pull that out, and let them select one of the gui plugins to link in statically at build time |
| 23:08.21 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:08.28 | CosmicPenguin | Exactly |
| 23:08.30 | kergoth | base one shouldnt have external dependencies |
| 23:08.50 | CosmicPenguin | And I think that we should bail on the 1) Foo 2) Bar menu - it should be arrow keys or nothing at all |