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13:47.53TomW`gonemorning
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13:51.45CosmicPenguinMorning folks
13:52.00TomWhello
13:53.13file[work]work is boring.
13:54.18TomWok, just bought a tektronix 2432 300MHz digital storage scope for $474.00 on ebay.
13:54.47TomWhopefully it is in good working order.
13:55.38TomWheh, also bought a Hitachi 100MHz digital storage scope too for $169.00
13:56.02TomWone of 'em should get me back into business with a working scope again
13:58.36fontenotTomW: cool. I guess you figured out how to outwit the bidding programs :-)
13:59.44TomWfontenot: well, not really.  no last second bid-ups on either one.  I really wanted the tektronix 2432, I have used that scope before and it is a really nice scope for engineering work.
14:02.27file[work]owwwww
14:03.15TomWfontenot: this one is for you:  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2545497382&category=26260
14:03.19TomWheh
14:03.56fontenotheh :-)
14:04.16TomWfontenot: it is similar to the zephyrtronics system that I use, but they only are selling the hot-air pencil (AFAICT).
14:04.35fontenotsame brand as my soldering iron
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14:16.29TomWfontenot: OH!?  you do own a soldering iron?  heh
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14:21.06sieve_workmorning all
14:34.32fontenotTomW: :-P
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14:43.02prpplagueanyone know if the 64-bit suse is a free?
14:43.17chouimathu prpplague
14:43.23prpplaguechouimat: hey
14:43.28CosmicPenguinprpplague: morning
14:43.41chouimatprpplague: got an opteron?
14:44.51prpplaguechouimat: ya
14:45.01sieve_workprpplague: sort of....
14:45.03prpplaguechouimat: with no os to use :(
14:45.06chouimatprpplague: cool
14:45.45chouimatprpplague: your ex-wife leaved you enough money to get one ? ;)
14:46.38prpplaguechouimat: duh, hell no
14:46.40prpplaguechouimat: work
14:47.04chouimatprpplague: hehe ... sorry that one was too easy ;)
14:54.56prpplagueanyone using suse on mc servers?
14:55.20chouimatprpplague: what is a mc server?
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15:13.27prpplaguemallum: PotA marathon was on last night :)
15:13.42prpplaguemallum: and today and tomorrow, lol
15:14.12mallumwoohoo :-)
15:14.22CosmicPenguinsignal11: I forgot to ask, how was Phish?
15:21.00prpplaguemallum: how's mb dev going?
15:22.39mallumprpplague: yeah good at the moment, just hacking in optional gettext support
15:23.27CosmicPenguinSigh - gettext
15:29.36prpplaguemallum: sounds good
15:30.06prpplaguemallum: as soon as i get things settled here, i'm diving back into mobile dev
15:30.30mallumCosmicPenguin: I know :/
15:30.53mallumCosmicPenguin: the biggest problem seems to be getting it playing happily with autogubbins
15:32.15signal11CosmicPenguin: fun, it was a great show
15:32.32signal11esp. set 2
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15:39.15CosmicPenguinsignal11: I'm still waffling on WP on Friday.  I really want to go, but I don't really have the money
15:39.18CosmicPenguinAnd I don't want to go alone
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15:41.22signal11i can probably find a friendly group of folks who are going
15:41.35kergothyo
15:41.48prpplaguekergoth: ho
15:41.49signal11sell some grilled cheese in the lot to pay for tix
15:41.51signal11heh
15:41.57prpplaguekergoth: ho ho, and a bottle of rum
15:42.54signal11or bottled & chilled tap water for a buck, that'll pay for it in no time
15:43.24signal11hell i should do that even though i'm not going
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16:10.29kergoth?
16:13.09prpplaguekergoth: i politely asked sorphin to tone down his insults last week
16:13.21prpplaguekergoth: he promptly threw a fit and left
16:13.32chouimatkergoth: hi
16:13.38fontenotyeah that was rather strange
16:13.43kergothodd
16:13.55fontenotfor someone who likes to dish it out he sure can't take it
16:14.30kergoththats odd, most people i know that insult alot are cool about getting it back.  its just normal banter.
16:15.21chouimathuh??
16:15.34kergothheh
16:15.39kergoth~fishslap chouimat
16:15.41ACTION slaps chouimat up side the head with a wet fish.
16:15.47chouimatkergoth: ?
16:16.00chouimatkergoth: I was away since friday morning
16:16.16kergothi was away since friday evening. still no net at home
16:16.17kergothheh
16:16.32chouimatkergoth: fix that
16:21.41prpplaguekergoth: how do you survive? i went a week without net at home, and i was about to go insane
16:22.09kergothprpplague: well, i sit on the laptop w/ net at work all day, its refreshing to avoid computers in the evening
16:22.14kergothprpplague: though weekends are fucking boring
16:23.24prpplaguekergoth: true, but i do everything via my pc, pay bills, movie times, book hookers......
16:23.33filebook hookers? URL?
16:23.54kergothheh, moviefone for movies, electronic payment over phone for bills
16:23.55prpplaguefile: don't worry, they only take real money, not cad
16:24.50file1-800-555-TELL is really useful, it'll tell you anything
16:25.11filesports scores, movies, directions, e-mail
16:25.17filehoroscope, CNet News
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16:50.26filehey andersee
16:52.19Russ"I'm getting a 12x12!! That's TEN pieces of meat and TEN pieces of cheese!!" -Ray's first take
16:53.15fontenot?
16:53.23fontenotwhat's a 4x4 ?
16:53.32fontenotI hear ppl order that at in-n-out
16:55.55fileapparently
16:55.58Russthats my friend ray on burger TV...
16:56.06fileeek wrong channel
17:03.34Russhttp://68.3.81.148:8000/burgertv.jpg
17:05.03anderseefile: hey
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17:51.16legodudeheya chouimat
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18:27.48prpplaguepb_: hey there, long time no chat
18:28.00pb_prpplague: yo!
18:28.07kergothhey pb_, fancy seeing you over here
18:28.30pb_prpplague: btw, contrary to earlier intelligence, I am in fact at OLS.  are you still planning to attend this year?
18:28.39pb_kergoth: heh
18:28.52prpplaguepb_: i was, but boss had other plans  :(
18:29.02pb_prpplague: ah, that's too bad.
18:29.16prpplaguepb_: ya had to eat the plane ticket and reserver fee
18:29.51CosmicPenguinHe had to eat it raw, too....  no BBQ sauce
18:30.07kergothblech
18:31.44CosmicPenguinSpeaking of BBQ sauce, has anyone else encountered the Jim Beam BBQ sauce - it comes as part of a gift set
18:32.01CosmicPenguinI recommend it - its finger lickin good
18:32.11kergothjim beam has a bbq sauce?
18:32.13kergothcool
18:32.15jacquesI'll have to try it if I get a chance
18:33.17CosmicPenguinhttp://amos.catalogcity.com/cc.class/cc?pcd=3159154&ccsyn=1
18:34.06kergothi always forget froogle exists
18:34.32legodudefroogle is sweet
18:34.35legodudeI think
18:34.44kergothit is
18:35.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yes they normally carry it here at the bbq store
18:35.36prpplaguehere=easttexas
18:35.46kergothheh, when i moved here i found the existance of bbq stores interesting
18:36.28kergothanyone know offhand what a vector exception is, in the context of an ARM device, specifically xscale?
18:36.34prpplaguekergoth: or boot stores?
18:36.46pb_kergoth: oh, are you having those too?
18:36.49CosmicPenguinkergoth: the exception probably happened in an invalid state
18:37.07pb_kergoth: it's pretty much a can't-happen state.  refers to some corner case involving a data access to an exception vector while in 26-bit mode.
18:37.09CosmicPenguinLike a bad memory access in interrupt mode
18:37.14kergothpb_: yeah, dropped collie support onto 2.4.21-rmk1 and get those continually once we start init
18:37.20kergothahh, gotcha
18:37.31pb_kergoth: talk to rfs in #debian-arm.  he was seeing the same on netwinder.
18:37.42CosmicPenguinkergoth: I had a client that had a poorly initalized MMU, and he was getting those left and right
18:39.25pb_kergoth: my guess is that the code in 2.4.21 which reads the FSR is busted.  vector exception encodes as all zeros, which is a bit suspicious.
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18:41.54gatofischah
18:42.03gatofischthe wonders of network cable minus latch
18:43.57prpplaguegatofisch: almost as fun as having "billybob the electrian" punch down cat5 blocks, lol
18:45.00pb_heh. right
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18:45.40prpplagueone of our latest installs got punched down with 6 wire intercom cable - "i didn't think it mattered cat5 is 6 wire and so is this intercom cable, and its much cheaper"
18:46.06gatofischhaha
18:46.11gatofischhahaha
18:46.14gatofischwonderful
18:46.25gatofischI did that when I wired my house the first time
18:46.32gatofischI was also like 12 at the time
18:48.23gatofischoooh
18:48.25gatofischshiny
18:48.25gatofischfast?
18:52.44legodudegetting so cheap on ebay
18:57.16chouimatprpplague: I want a new apple G5
19:30.44chouimathttp://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/RELEASES/2003/r030721.htm
19:31.21pb_kergoth: Russell tells me that he did make some changes to FSR reading in 2.4.21.
19:33.29kergothah
19:33.43pb_apparently some code from 2.5 was backported, and he thinks he may have missed updating proc-sa110.S.
19:33.48pb_he's going to look at it now.
19:52.41CosmicPenguinandersee: you around?
19:53.43filethere's no business like shoebusiness
19:57.31CosmicPenguinandersee: nm
20:14.17anderseeCosmicPenguin: sup?
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20:21.21legodudeanyone know if there are such things as SPDIF output chips?
20:21.46CosmicPenguinandersee: just a a compiler question...
20:21.47legodudeie interface to uC and then do everything required to format and interface to spdif?
20:22.17CosmicPenguinandersee: say I have a linked list of attributes.  Is it cheaper to say if (strcmp(a, l->value) else if (strcmp(b, l->value))
20:22.49CosmicPenguinOr is it cheaper to put the values into an array compare them in a loop (for i =0; ...) if (!strcmp(a, value[i]) break;
20:23.19CosmicPenguinIts hard to explain....
20:23.32CosmicPenguinI had to do it another way anyway, I was just curious
20:27.35anderseeCosmicPenguin: hard to say for sure.  Sounds to me like you perhaps want to use an array and bsearch (if things can be assumed to be ordered).  Or perhaps use a btree...
20:27.51anderseedunno w/o more detail
20:36.56CosmicPenguinOh, nothing that complicated
20:37.18CosmicPenguinIts just searching a list of XML attributes and filling in the appropriate fields in a structure
20:37.49CosmicPenguinI was just trying to figure out the size of 7 if else's each one doing a strcmp()
20:38.08CosmicPenguinRather than a loop that does a strcmp against 7 elements of an array
20:56.34legodudeis a jtag interface the same no matter what hardware?
20:56.41legodudeor are there varients of jtag?
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20:57.25pb_jtag is basically the same regardless.  it's a standard interface.
20:57.27legodudeand have you all seen teh AVR Butterfly?
20:57.35legodudejust different physical connectors?
20:57.40pb_right
20:58.03legodudeso to connect to your PC you get like a serial or USB dongle?
20:58.22kergoths/serial/parallel/
20:58.25legodudeugh
20:58.35pb_typically, yeah
20:58.36legodudeI hate parallel with passion
20:58.39legodudebut they make USB ones also?
20:58.48pb_there are serial and parallel dongles; probably usb also.
20:58.56legodudecoo
20:59.10legodudeany recommendations on what dongle to get?
20:59.13pb_all the cheap ones tend to be parallel though.
20:59.23legodudeI'll live with parallel if I have to
20:59.27legodudeit is just uncool
21:01.10legodudeany recs on which are good and cheap?
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21:49.18legodudeoh dear

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