| 00:06.24 | prpplague | sweet - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4001022565.html |
| 00:23.07 | file | prpplague: yummy |
| 00:34.08 | jacques | the sony looks awesome but I think the c750 has it beat in specs |
| 00:35.29 | jacques | and why is it on linuxdevices ? linux is nowhere involved |
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| 02:31.04 | Russ | afternoon morn |
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| 02:59.31 | wilco | Would this be an appropriate place to ask about things like compact flash for a Soekris system? As in, what kind is recommended? Is Viking okay? |
| 03:10.09 | wilco | Does brand matter much? |
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| 03:14.18 | prpplague | evening all |
| 03:14.50 | prpplague | kergoth: jeeze, got u-boot on the tuxscreen in about 5 minutes |
| 03:15.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:15.06 | prpplague | TimRiker: you do the u-boot config for the shannon? |
| 03:15.41 | prpplague | kergoth: wow your still online |
| 03:15.49 | prpplague | kergoth: you get a net connection at home now? |
| 03:16.01 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:16.07 | kergoth | only took me what, almost 2 months. |
| 03:16.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:16.34 | kergoth | still, it was a nice break not being able to work on projects for a while |
| 03:16.37 | prpplague | kergoth: how did you survive without dl'n some pr0n |
| 03:16.39 | prpplague | kergoth: lol |
| 03:17.00 | prpplague | kergoth: sieve and i need to take you out to the cathedral |
| 03:18.16 | prpplague | kergoth: broadband? |
| 03:18.49 | kergoth | yea, i gotta get out shortly before i go nuts |
| 03:19.02 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:19.15 | prpplague | lol |
| 03:19.54 | prpplague | kergoth: you know i think i like my tux better on my life support board than in its original package, lol |
| 03:19.59 | wilco | You guys have any opinions on CompactFlash for Soekris boards? |
| 03:20.56 | prpplague | wilco: soekris boards? iirc those are x86 right? |
| 03:21.12 | wilco | Yeah, they're i486 Elan thingy |
| 03:21.47 | wilco | They seem to be the hardware of choice for wireless APs |
| 03:22.05 | prpplague | wilco: really? |
| 03:22.11 | prpplague | wilco: says who? |
| 03:22.25 | prpplague | wilco: just playing devils adovocate this evening |
| 03:22.30 | prpplague | wilco: just curious |
| 03:22.30 | wilco | Well, they're used by PersonalTelco in Portland (where I am) and NYC Wireless |
| 03:22.43 | wilco | At least for home-brewed setups |
| 03:22.51 | prpplague | wilco: ahh |
| 03:23.08 | wilco | This is what I'm working on: http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/HotSpotPackage |
| 03:23.10 | prpplague | wilco: yes they are really easy for x86/pc people to start with embedded linux |
| 03:23.40 | wilco | This recommends SanDisk above all others: http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/pebble.README |
| 03:24.14 | prpplague | wilco: i find alot of the commercial AP's actually run ARM cores, mostly cores without mmu |
| 03:24.17 | wilco | Yeah, it's easier to go with a 128/256MB card and cross develop |
| 03:24.45 | wilco | Yeah, I'm going to see if I can talk my SnapGear rep into a some of their units, esp now that PTP is a 501(c)3 |
| 03:25.00 | prpplague | wilco: lol, good luck |
| 03:25.07 | wilco | Well, you never know |
| 03:25.13 | prpplague | wilco: we buy a ton of them and they haven't given us one yet |
| 03:25.37 | wilco | Heh |
| 03:25.46 | wilco | Well, you're not a tax write-off, I guess :) |
| 03:26.02 | wilco | Their model w/PCMCIA is an Elan also |
| 03:26.22 | prpplague | wilco: ya, we always use the coldfire models |
| 03:26.24 | wilco | So actually porting Bewitched or Pebble should be a, uhm, snap |
| 03:26.50 | wilco | I've installed a few of their end-user boxes; I'm a reseller |
| 03:27.08 | prpplague | ahh |
| 03:27.11 | wilco | Just out of curiosity, has Perl been ported to an MMU-less platform? |
| 03:27.29 | prpplague | wilco: i don't do much with mmu-less |
| 03:27.44 | wilco | Wasn't the ColdFires MMU-less? |
| 03:27.49 | wilco | Er, Aren't |
| 03:27.49 | prpplague | wilco: |
| 03:27.54 | prpplague | wilco: yea |
| 03:28.40 | prpplague | wilco: i let my cell^h^h^h^hoffice mate do the router thing, lol |
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| 13:19.00 | mallum_ | kergoth: hey |
| 13:19.11 | prpplague | mallum_: morning |
| 13:20.11 | mallum_ | hey prpplague |
| 13:20.51 | prpplague | mallum_: hows life in the UK today? |
| 13:21.28 | prpplague | mallum_: i applied for a job in london, but they weren't interested in having a non-citizen :( |
| 13:21.29 | mallum_ | prpplague: good good |
| 13:21.41 | mallum_ | prpplague: hehe, what job ? |
| 13:22.21 | prpplague | mallum_: http://www.linuxdevices.com/jobs/JB4871827675.html |
| 13:23.34 | prpplague | mallum_: the gp32 very popular over in the UK? |
| 13:24.05 | mallum_ | yeah apparently so |
| 13:24.19 | mallum_ | what co was it ? |
| 13:25.30 | prpplague | mallum_: they didn't say, it was a number for a headhunter |
| 13:27.52 | prpplague | mallum_: whats the embedded job market like in the UK these days? |
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| 13:29.10 | mallum_ | prpplague: I thought it was non existant |
| 13:29.35 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:30.33 | mallum_ | hey chouimat |
| 13:31.38 | chouimat | anyone know how to use MdmDial in palmos? |
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| 13:58.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:59.18 | chouimat|work | prpplague: know how to use the modem manager in palmos? |
| 13:59.30 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 13:59.40 | prpplague | chouimat|work: sorry no, i only use linux, lol |
| 13:59.57 | chouimat|work | prpplague: cost nothing asking ;) |
| 14:00.04 | prpplague | chouimat|work: lol, nope |
| 14:03.33 | prpplague | Russ: hey, that place in AZ that you recomended for pcb stuff, do they do full assembly too? |
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| 14:05.00 | prpplague | sjhill: morning mr.timesys |
| 14:05.13 | prpplague | sjhill: at tim's conference? |
| 14:08.12 | sjhill | prpplague: yup, i'm in C for the crypto talk |
| 14:08.59 | prpplague | sjhill: cool |
| 14:09.05 | sjhill | prpplague: where are u? |
| 14:09.18 | prpplague | sjhill: at my desk :( |
| 14:09.36 | sjhill | Wha!!!! |
| 14:09.40 | sjhill | crap |
| 14:10.07 | prpplague | sjhill: yea, company cancelled me at the last minute to work on a freakin signature capture app |
| 14:21.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i have a ton of unused arm boards, any item where would be a good place to post them for sale? |
| 14:22.26 | mallum_ | prpplague: ebay ? |
| 14:23.36 | prpplague | mallum_: think i'd actually get some arm developers there? |
| 14:25.56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: after we pick em over, we can send our friends |
| 14:26.13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: if you post it em on Ebay, I'll post a link on my local LU list |
| 14:26.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok cool |
| 14:26.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: guess i need to get them together and ready to post then |
| 14:26.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how many do you have? |
| 14:27.08 | mallum | prpplague: what sort of stuff you have, anything with unusual display sizes ? |
| 14:31.38 | prpplague | mallum_: got an inhand elf board, got a couple symbol units, got some webpals, got a couple of arm based webpads |
| 14:32.52 | prpplague | mallum_: got the origial yopy sdk |
| 14:34.29 | mallum | what are the webpads like ? |
| 14:34.56 | mallum | prpplague: hmm, what I really need is something really crappy like a psion 5mx |
| 14:35.00 | prpplague | mallum: iirc, both are one of a kind prototypes |
| 14:35.09 | prpplague | mallum: lol |
| 14:35.11 | mallum | prpplague: <100mhz, greyscale small fb |
| 14:35.32 | prpplague | mallum: ahh, i have a little mips based symbol unit, lol |
| 14:35.43 | prpplague | mallum: vr4181, lol |
| 14:35.48 | mallum | prpplague: does it have a screen ? |
| 14:35.59 | prpplague | mallum: yep |
| 14:36.12 | prpplague | mallum: basically a nice version of a the vr3 |
| 14:36.16 | prpplague | mallum: with pcmcia slot |
| 14:36.20 | mallum | prpplague: do you have a url for it ? |
| 14:36.30 | prpplague | mallum: one sec |
| 14:38.54 | prpplague | mallum: http://www.symbol.com/products/mobile_computers/mobile_ppc_ppt2700_data.html |
| 14:40.17 | mallum | prpplague: there really mutant |
| 14:42.03 | prpplague | yea |
| 14:42.23 | prpplague | mallum: hard to believe symbol charged almost 3k for those, lol |
| 14:42.58 | mallum | prpplague: ouch |
| 14:43.00 | CosmicPenguin | Oh! The Symbol? |
| 14:43.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 14:43.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, runs linux and pg really nice |
| 14:43.49 | CosmicPenguin | pg? |
| 14:43.56 | prpplague | never could get the barcode scanner to work though |
| 14:44.08 | prpplague | symbol wanted a fortune for an sdk kit |
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| 15:13.42 | CosmicPenguin | Lord help me, I've got a J Lo song stuck in my head |
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| 15:21.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, got 4 used sl-5500's ................what shall i do with them |
| 15:22.05 | levi | prpplague: beat CosmicPenguin over the head with them so he can get J-Lo out of his head |
| 15:22.23 | prpplague | levi: naw, i use an unused winblows license for that |
| 15:34.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how used? |
| 15:42.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lightly |
| 15:42.48 | kergoth | hey mallum, jordan, dave, et cetera |
| 15:43.02 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 15:43.04 | mallum | hey kergoth |
| 15:43.14 | prpplague | kergoth: recover from the cognac yet? |
| 15:43.35 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: cognac huh? |
| 15:43.45 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: life is good... :) |
| 15:43.52 | kergoth | heh, I dont get hangovers, generally |
| 15:44.11 | kergoth | unless i down a bottle of jack straight up.. my stomach doesnt like that much. |
| 15:44.17 | kergoth | heheh |
| 15:46.45 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sure that not many of your organs like that |
| 15:47.46 | CosmicPenguin | And thats not even taking into account the massively greasy breakfast and 10 cups of coffee you need the next morning |
| 15:48.15 | CosmicPenguin | There's a place up by the University of Utah called Big Eds |
| 15:48.45 | CosmicPenguin | They have a dish called the Gawdawful - hashbrowns topped with chilli and two fried eggs and a side of sour cream |
| 15:58.41 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: you should come to England for a proper fry up |
| 15:58.55 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: thats what I'm told |
| 15:59.29 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: my grandad lived on fryups, maybe that why he never made it past 50 :( |
| 15:59.36 | CosmicPenguin | ouch |
| 15:59.52 | mallum | but there good every once in a while |
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| 17:38.56 | Russ | wait...come to england for food? |
| 17:40.14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: you here? |
| 17:40.45 | Russ | prp_lunch: triad |
| 17:54.41 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yup |
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| 18:25.23 | prpplague | jacques: guess thats better than eating a bright yellow shoe |
| 18:28.19 | jacques | yeah I htink so |
| 18:28.28 | jacques | be better with cream cheese or something tho |
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| 19:23.50 | chouimat | hi TomW got the dct working? |
| 19:24.02 | TomW | no, have you? |
| 19:24.29 | chouimat | did have time ... stock trying to get a palm app working |
| 19:24.40 | chouimat | s/did/didn't |
| 19:25.49 | TomW | yeah, same here. I've figure out that I have to create an ISA board for the webpals that I have to run: 10BaseT, quad serial port (2 rs232 + 2 rs485), and a CF socket. |
| 19:26.00 | TomW | s/figure/figured/ |
| 19:26.42 | chouimat | how much for that nice little board? with and without chips |
| 19:26.43 | prpplague | TomW: hey |
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| 19:36.50 | file | sweet |
| 19:36.55 | file | I have a tracking number for my laptops |
| 19:39.48 | CosmicPenguin | Holy bagels - its hot outside |
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| 19:44.46 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I'm back |
| 19:45.17 | TomW | chouimat: dunno yet, still "dreaming" the electronics and such up. The board will be 4" X 7" in size so that a slot can be machined in the webpal from panel to accept the CF. |
| 19:45.31 | gatofisch | ooh |
| 19:45.35 | gatofisch | this is your combo board? |
| 19:46.06 | chouimat | TomW: and we will be able to use those serial port to flash the webpal? |
| 19:46.17 | TomW | chouimat: I'm gonna loop the IDE cable from the IDE header, across the ISA jumper board, down underneath to the new board. |
| 19:47.15 | TomW | chouimat: I was thinking of using the 1Meg flash to store a boot loader to load the o/s from the CF, but if it didn't find the CF device, it would boot a cramfs from the Flash. |
| 19:47.33 | chouimat | sound good to me ... |
| 19:47.38 | chouimat | brb |
| 19:47.41 | TomW | chouimat: kind of like an initrd.img |
| 19:48.04 | prpplague | TomW: hmm, since your building your board, why not just do a passive ide cf slot to the ide |
| 19:48.16 | TomW | legodude: yeah |
| 19:48.18 | prpplague | TomW: just put the cf slot and a 40pin header |
| 19:48.32 | prpplague | TomW: then you could just connect it with a standard ide cable |
| 19:48.44 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: me too |
| 19:48.46 | andersee | :) |
| 19:49.01 | CosmicPenguin | So you don't know where that e-mail came from? |
| 19:49.04 | CosmicPenguin | The headers were all funky |
| 19:49.08 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: nope, no idea |
| 19:49.13 | TomW | use RJ45's for the 10BaseT + the two RS232 ports, then use sub-miniature phone jacks for the two half-duplex RS485 ports. |
| 19:49.24 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: oh, well... :) |
| 19:49.30 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I'll bother them for giggles |
| 19:49.34 | andersee | k |
| 19:49.44 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Way I see it, better you than me. :) |
| 19:49.55 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: ok |
| 19:50.02 | prpplague | TomW: or is that what your doing anyway? |
| 19:50.06 | TomW | prpplague: yeah, put the CF socket on the new board and a 40 pin header so you can cross connect the IDE drive header of the webpal to the CF on the new board. |
| 19:50.12 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Thats me, the I'll do anything guy |
| 19:51.19 | legodude | any pointers on where to get cheap CF-ide converters? |
| 19:51.31 | TomW | prpplague: I was looking at CF to IDE adaptors last night, but for the $20 they want for them, plus shipping, it would be cheaper to make a short IDE jumper cable and put the CF on the new board. Plus, I won't have to bring another interrupt out to the ISA bus. |
| 19:52.22 | TomW | http://www.acscontrol.com/index_ACS.asp |
| 19:52.42 | chouimat | TomW: I have such adapter here |
| 19:53.05 | TomW | legodude: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=compactflash+ide+adaptor&btnG=Google+Search |
| 19:53.19 | legodude | ya |
| 19:53.25 | legodude | I can find em no problem |
| 19:53.33 | legodude | I just coulda sworn I saw them for like $6 one time |
| 19:53.36 | TomW | legodude: they all range in the $20..$24 per + shipping & handling. |
| 19:53.40 | legodude | and can't find em again |
| 19:54.03 | TomW | legodude: not likely, the damned CF socket costs that much! |
| 19:54.13 | legodude | I think it was a surplus place |
| 19:54.24 | legodude | but I just as well could have dreamt it :( |
| 19:54.51 | prpplague | legodude: thats about what we buy them for, but i can't seem to get any extras in for me to resale |
| 19:54.54 | TomW | legodude: yeah, had to be a closeout or something like that. |
| 19:58.29 | TomW | heh, "Cracking Windows passwords in seconds" |
| 20:05.32 | andersee | legodude: something like these? http://shop.store.yahoo.net/s168/pccarpcmciad.html |
| 20:06.07 | legodude | ya |
| 20:06.10 | legodude | I need one of those too |
| 20:06.21 | legodude | but I could have sworn I saw ide adapters for mad cheap |
| 20:06.43 | legodude | but I was probably just confusing with this type of PC card adapter |
| 20:07.43 | andersee | http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/item/CFIDE1?elinux=4360e20152f54291330b34fdd32209ee |
| 20:08.15 | TomW | andersee: uhhuh, I want to use them this year, not wait for shipping time.. |
| 20:08.21 | TomW | heh |
| 20:08.33 | legodude | and that's not a good price either |
| 20:08.57 | legodude | lemme check something quick |
| 20:09.42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: where did you get those adapaters like you sent to me? |
| 20:09.45 | andersee | probably easiest to get a USB CF adapter |
| 20:09.46 | CosmicPenguin | THat thing is so cool |
| 20:10.07 | legodude | what adapters? |
| 20:10.13 | legodude | andersee: I want to use it as boot device though |
| 20:14.26 | legodude | I guess I was smoking crack |
| 20:16.20 | chouimat | legodude: ewww crack |
| 20:16.54 | legodude | hey |
| 20:16.55 | legodude | it's not so bad |
| 20:16.57 | legodude | really |
| 20:16.58 | legodude | er |
| 20:17.00 | legodude | um |
| 20:17.01 | legodude | ya |
| 20:17.17 | andersee | legodude: my motherboard lets me boot from USB mass storage |
| 20:17.26 | legodude | ya |
| 20:17.31 | legodude | but I don't have good stuff like that |
| 20:17.54 | legodude | and by the time I'd get a usb 2.0 reader it would be the same cost as IDE converter |
| 20:18.05 | legodude | usb mass storage booting is way cool though |
| 20:18.09 | legodude | use the neato pen drives |
| 20:18.34 | chouimat | hmmm 768MB really improve this box |
| 20:18.51 | legodude | nice |
| 20:18.54 | legodude | what kinda machine? |
| 20:20.56 | chouimat | PIII/667 |
| 20:21.07 | legodude | ah |
| 20:21.41 | legodude | I have a pretty neat machine, 2x850 PIII that I haven't had time to play around with yet |
| 20:21.49 | legodude | the neat thing is that it is compactpci |
| 20:21.56 | legodude | which is also unneat |
| 20:22.24 | legodude | haven't yet decided if I want to try and sell it again or keep it and use it as my linux server/dev machine |
| 20:22.40 | legodude | my main complaint is that it is in huge rackmount case and only has i810 graphics |
| 20:26.41 | file | sad? why? |
| 20:26.45 | legodude | very sad? |
| 20:27.47 | chouimat | nm |
| 21:10.15 | legodude | pong |
| 21:36.40 | jacques | looks like they figured out the CRC generation for the WRT54G : http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/3525 |
| 21:43.41 | legodude | silly linksys |
| 21:43.50 | legodude | I remember when I had problems with one of theirs products |
| 21:43.55 | legodude | they had me diagram my network |
| 21:44.04 | legodude | all the techies were amazed |
| 21:44.14 | legodude | they said they had never seen anything quite like it at home |
| 21:46.18 | jacques | heh |
| 21:50.02 | jacques | http://nocat.net/download/wrtgen/ |
| 21:50.23 | legodude | very cool |
| 21:50.30 | legodude | what does this allow exactly? |
| 21:50.38 | legodude | you can replace the firmware |
| 21:50.44 | legodude | but what does that get you? |
| 21:51.17 | jacques | ? |
| 21:51.31 | jacques | you can make it do different things |
| 21:51.34 | legodude | ya |
| 21:51.36 | legodude | like what? |
| 21:51.48 | legodude | someone mentioned running access control on it? |
| 21:52.25 | jacques | different types of authentication, being a repeater or client instead of an ap/router, being a mesh node |
| 21:52.30 | legodude | ah |
| 21:52.47 | jacques | run nocat to be a captive portal |
| 21:52.52 | legodude | access control is still what I don't understand fully about wireless |
| 21:53.04 | legodude | like I would like to setup an access point for my network |
| 21:53.11 | legodude | but I only want me to be able to access it |
| 21:53.18 | legodude | how exactly would I implement that? |
| 21:53.44 | jacques | WEP, MAC filtering, probably other ways |
| 21:53.58 | legodude | MAC filtering is easy to spoof, no? |
| 21:54.03 | legodude | and isn't WEP really insecure? |
| 21:54.05 | jacques | o guess |
| 21:54.11 | jacques | really insecure? |
| 21:54.16 | jacques | refine really |
| 21:54.18 | jacques | define |
| 21:54.23 | legodude | like trivial to crack? |
| 21:54.32 | jacques | trivial? no |
| 21:54.32 | legodude | I thought there was some flaw in it |
| 21:54.57 | legodude | so 128bit WEP alone is good enough? |
| 21:54.57 | jacques | if your AP emits weak packets and you collect enough of them you can crask it |
| 21:55.05 | jacques | good enough for what? |
| 21:55.11 | legodude | hehe |
| 21:55.13 | jacques | you want total security - dont use wireless |
| 21:55.15 | legodude | I am being vauge |
| 21:55.44 | legodude | what kinda expertise is required to crack WEP if it spews out weak packets? |
| 21:55.46 | legodude | and timeframe |
| 21:56.10 | legodude | I'm just concerned about causal linux hacker with his laptop and easy to get tools cracking my network |
| 21:56.11 | jacques | not much expertise - just the right software and collecting enough packets - wihch depends on usage |
| 21:56.16 | legodude | I don't want to stop the ueber hacker |
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| 21:56.58 | legodude | hrm |
| 21:57.00 | lars_ | Hey all.... |
| 21:57.04 | legodude | hey |
| 21:57.06 | jacques | i worked it out at one point but I dont remember the numbers - but an ultra-busy network could be cracked in like 3 days I think |
| 21:57.12 | legodude | ah |
| 21:57.13 | lars_ | hey legodude |
| 21:57.13 | legodude | alright |
| 21:57.17 | legodude | that's not a concern for me then |
| 21:57.22 | legodude | I thought it was much shorter than that |
| 21:57.22 | lars_ | I am looking for something a very difficult something. |
| 21:57.35 | jacques | but I think most APs aren't emitting weak packets anymore |
| 21:57.43 | lars_ | a very very very very very very very very very difficult something.... |
| 21:57.43 | legodude | I was under teh impression that for security you had to run VPN |
| 21:57.49 | legodude | mine is a POS unit |
| 21:58.06 | legodude | you have a rec for a decent one? |
| 21:58.27 | legodude | and do most nowadays operate in bridge mode? |
| 21:58.37 | jacques | not really :-\ I'm not an expert on the matter |
| 21:58.43 | legodude | ah |
| 21:58.46 | lars_ | I need a computer, basically I need somethign PDA sized, that runs linux, has a b&w simpel touchscreen lcd, costs $99 or less and has any multipoint bus such as ethernet, usb, RS485, etc etc |
| 21:58.52 | lars_ | ideas anybody? |
| 21:59.06 | legodude | uh |
| 21:59.14 | legodude | I want one too |
| 21:59.14 | lars_ | Hey MonMotha how do you do man? |
| 21:59.37 | lars_ | legodude: the TuxPhone was close to it, very close.... when it still existed. :( |
| 21:59.58 | cosmic_errands | Anything Geode based would be right up your alley |
| 22:00.10 | cosmic_errands | But that price point will be tough to hit - the LCD alone will set you back a chunk |
| 22:00.38 | lars_ | yes cosmic_errands, the proble is that the amount of geode based systems that añlready come with an lcd or for which a propper lcd is easy to find is near zero (zero so far actually I have found) |
| 22:00.44 | lars_ | yesç |
| 22:01.29 | lars_ | So far I've been thinking of trying something with a palm zire |
| 22:01.52 | lars_ | it's $99, it has it all, problem is in it's natural palm state I can't find anything ont he topic of having more than one device on the same bus... |
| 22:02.12 | lars_ | and I doubt uClinux has the driver for the zire's usb interface I doubt it even can handle the lcd |
| 22:05.40 | cosmic_errands | Anyone have a good PHP mode for emacs that works? |
| 22:05.50 | cosmic_errands | This one I have won't indent |
| 22:07.15 | lars_ | sorry vi person |
| 22:07.35 | legodude | Eddie person |
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| 22:10.50 | cosmic_errands | sigh |
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| 22:11.13 | gatofisch | grr |
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| 22:21.38 | legodude | can anyone here clarify for me the differences between CPLD and FPGA? |
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| 23:02.18 | CosmicPenguin | My PHP in a Nutshell book has gone missing |
| 23:02.25 | file | CosmicPenguin: look in a nutshell |
| 23:03.18 | CosmicPenguin | hardy hardy har |
| 23:13.47 | file | CosmicPenguin: waddup? |
| 23:14.07 | CosmicPenguin | file: nada |
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