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| 01:45.49 | ricmm | hey kergoth`bbl are you there? |
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| 02:05.43 | George- | ricmm: probably not |
| 02:05.57 | ricmm | yeh i can see that |
| 02:06.18 | ricmm | well i was wondering how to write a 1 to an specific bit in a interrupt enable register |
| 02:06.23 | ricmm | with the use of outl() |
| 02:06.29 | ricmm | can you help me with that? |
| 02:08.33 | kergoth`bbl | heh. read Art of Assembly. specifically the section on data representation |
| 02:09.38 | ricmm | oh |
| 02:09.40 | ricmm | i will |
| 02:09.47 | ricmm | but cant you just tell me for tonight ? |
| 02:10.16 | ricmm | pls :( |
| 02:10.24 | kergoth`bbl | uh, try reading code. |
| 02:10.34 | kergoth`bbl | there are numerous occasions of such things in the kernel sources. rtfc. |
| 02:10.50 | ricmm | what about, outl(0x00000040 | 1, 0x04); |
| 02:11.03 | ricmm | or should 1 be 0x01 :P |
| 02:11.22 | ricmm | to write a 1 to the 0x00000040 bit at the int enable register that sits at 0x04 |
| 02:11.34 | ricmm | just for example, it doesnt sits there |
| 02:11.40 | ricmm | it sits at 0x0118 |
| 02:22.40 | ricmm | well |
| 02:24.22 | ricmm | shit |
| 02:24.42 | ricmm | or should it be outl(1 << 1, REGISTER) |
| 02:26.36 | kergoth`bbl | depends on what bit you're trying to set. and that will zero every other bit |
| 02:26.41 | kergoth`bbl | i doubt you want to fuck with the existing contents. |
| 02:26.54 | ricmm | well |
| 02:27.13 | ricmm | i want to set the bit number 20 to 1 in the int enable register that sits at 0x0118 |
| 02:27.15 | kergoth`bbl | you probably want something like outl(inl(reg) | (1<<bitfield), reg); which would read the existing contents, set the bit, and write it. |
| 02:27.23 | kergoth`bbl | 20 to 1? |
| 02:27.40 | kergoth`bbl | brb, dinner |
| 02:27.40 | ricmm | what |
| 02:27.44 | ricmm | set bit 20 to value 1 |
| 02:27.45 | ricmm | wait |
| 02:27.46 | ricmm | :'( |
| 02:28.16 | kergoth`bbl | so outl(inl(reg) | (1<<20), reg); assuming you mean bit 20 counting from zero, not one. |
| 02:28.23 | kergoth`bbl | k brb |
| 02:29.12 | ricmm | thanks :) |
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| 03:32.42 | TomW | andersee: Erik? You around? |
| 03:35.04 | TomW | andersee: I've been using a scrap of code that I extracted from uClibc to makedevs. Since I have upgraded my glibc (system software upgrade), I am seeing some funnies with strdup (used in your xstrdup function). I can overcome the prob by substituding strdup with an malloc + strcpy. Have you seen this as well (strdup fails)? |
| 03:35.40 | TomW | andersee: prob is segmentation faults when calling strdup. |
| 03:40.05 | andersee | TomW: hey |
| 03:40.21 | TomW | andersee: Hi Eric |
| 03:40.32 | TomW | andersee: Hi Erik (oops) |
| 03:40.39 | andersee | TomW: no, I've not see strdup failing.. |
| 03:41.05 | TomW | andersee: k, I'll gdb some more than, strange stuff, but, this is a Mandrake 9.1 system... |
| 03:41.39 | TomW | andersee: why use strdup instead of malloc + strcpy? Handier? |
| 03:43.55 | andersee | TomW: no reason |
| 03:43.58 | andersee | TomW: just cuz |
| 03:44.07 | TomW | andersee: k, tnx |
| 03:44.18 | TomW | :) |
| 03:53.54 | sorphin | TomW: evening gramps |
| 03:54.23 | TomW | sorphin: so, how was your vacation? |
| 03:54.33 | sorphin | TomW: what vacation? |
| 03:55.05 | TomW | sorphin: well, I hadn't seen you on here, so I figured you were out enjoying yourself. |
| 03:55.48 | sorphin | TomW: hardly |
| 03:55.57 | sorphin | TomW: wish i could |
| 03:56.08 | TomW | sorphin: that doesn't sound so good, too much work, eh? |
| 03:56.10 | sorphin | TomW: planning on doing some of that tho when my mini shows up |
| 03:56.21 | TomW | mini? |
| 03:56.44 | sorphin | TomW: getting a 2004 mini cooper S to replace my civic, in Oct (when it arrives on this side of the pond) |
| 03:56.54 | TomW | cool car |
| 03:57.24 | sorphin | yeah, should be |
| 03:57.26 | sorphin | fully loaded |
| 03:58.25 | TomW | heh, I saw some young woman with one of those Miata's. I wondered how she got herself into it, and I watched her get into the thing! |
| 03:58.44 | sorphin | haha |
| 03:58.49 | TomW | yeah, the Miata is that other tiny car, right? |
| 03:59.10 | sorphin | yeah, the mini's smaller |
| 03:59.13 | sorphin | tho |
| 03:59.23 | sorphin | hmm, 4 more sobig emails |
| 03:59.28 | TomW | They probably put the spare tire under the seats (no room for a trunk). |
| 03:59.38 | sorphin | on the mini? |
| 03:59.47 | TomW | put a box of kleenex in the truck and there is no room for a roadmap. |
| 04:00.01 | sorphin | the mini cooper has a spare under the car.. the S (which i am getting) has runflats |
| 04:00.01 | TomW | s/truck/trunk/ |
| 04:00.12 | TomW | heh |
| 04:00.37 | sorphin | the S's exhaust goes to the middle of the back, where the cooper's spare is, so.. |
| 04:00.45 | TomW | other place they could have used was to tie the tire to the roof of the car, but that would have upset the asthetics. |
| 04:00.54 | sorphin | i've never had a flat in all the driving i've ever done, so.. |
| 04:01.05 | TomW | mmm, I have a couple. |
| 04:01.12 | TomW | s/have/had/ |
| 04:01.23 | sorphin | TomW: next time, don't drive over that board w/ the nail sticking out ;) |
| 04:01.50 | TomW | no, it wasnt the board that I ran over, it was the local cop at the sobriety check.. :( |
| 04:01.57 | TomW | lol |
| 04:02.07 | sorphin | shot your tire out? |
| 04:02.12 | TomW | heh |
| 04:02.24 | TomW | naw, just kidding |
| 04:02.36 | sorphin | TomW: what do you drive anyways? |
| 04:02.47 | TomW | 1997 Grand Am GT |
| 04:02.59 | TomW | == toy car |
| 04:03.05 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:03.16 | sorphin | i won't drive anything but a 'toy car', for as long as i can |
| 04:03.47 | sorphin | TomW: there's nothing like the nice sound of a supercharger ;) :) |
| 04:03.55 | TomW | heh, I had a Taurus before this one, blew the transmiison on I-40 east of Nashville. |
| 04:03.58 | sorphin | which is what the S in the cooper S stands for ;) |
| 04:05.07 | sorphin | stock is 163Bhp (147 at the wheels), can w/ correct replacement stuff, bump up to 250 |
| 04:05.27 | TomW | well, I got to get back to some misbehaving code, something Erik wrote, I hacked and now it looks like I'll have to rewrite to make it behave. |
| 04:05.44 | sorphin | TomW: blame erik |
| 04:05.47 | sorphin | everyone else does ;) |
| 04:05.50 | TomW | heh |
| 04:05.50 | sorphin | andersee: ;) |
| 04:05.54 | TomW | naw |
| 04:06.07 | TomW | later |
| 04:06.13 | sorphin | TomW: what do you expect from someone that spells eric w/ a k ;) |
| 04:06.18 | sorphin | TomW: cya |
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| 04:06.37 | andersee | sorphin: I heard that |
| 04:06.39 | andersee | ;-) |
| 04:06.59 | sorphin | andersee: that's only because you're on your oddball schedule again ;) |
| 04:07.17 | andersee | sorphin: hehe |
| 04:07.35 | sorphin | andersee: good luck blacklisting me from the 6 sitting next to me ;p |
| 04:07.35 | andersee | sorphin: I woke up at like 4 pm today |
| 04:07.46 | andersee | sorphin: was kidding anyway |
| 04:08.04 | sorphin | and the 5 i have r00t on at work in production |
| 04:08.30 | sorphin | andersee: wish i didn't have to wake up till 4pm :P |
| 04:09.18 | sorphin | andersee: all healed up finally? |
| 04:09.50 | andersee | sorphin: you mean that nasty cut on my chin? yeah, its fine now |
| 04:10.04 | sorphin | andersee: yeah, the one from you playing rough w/ a dumpster |
| 04:10.48 | jacques | hmm how is mini smaller than miata? |
| 04:11.10 | sorphin | jacques: go look at the specs on a mini cooper ;) |
| 04:11.31 | jacques | sorphin: which spec? |
| 04:11.55 | jacques | only one I can think of which *may* be smaller is length |
| 04:11.58 | sorphin | length atleast |
| 04:12.15 | jacques | everything else - height, width, *weight* is higher |
| 04:12.21 | sorphin | which is where it'd matter |
| 04:12.25 | sorphin | i dunno bout weight |
| 04:12.30 | sorphin | width, yeah, it's bigger |
| 04:12.38 | sorphin | it's got a bulldog/gocart stance |
| 04:12.51 | jacques | and FWD :-\ |
| 04:13.05 | sorphin | jacques: but it out handles everything except the Porsche gs2 ;) |
| 04:13.22 | jacques | sorphin: where are you getting this info? |
| 04:13.32 | sorphin | jacques: and i can live w/ a 0-60 in <= 6.5 seconds |
| 04:13.44 | sorphin | jacques: i've read reports/tests |
| 04:13.54 | jacques | it outhandles an S2000 ? |
| 04:15.14 | jacques | hmm I guess I'm sounding confrontational - don't mean to - I had just been diappointed in the new minis because they made them so big and heavy and FWD |
| 04:15.58 | jacques | I'm waiting for the elise but they will probably screw that up too |
| 04:17.41 | sorphin | esp when i drove it :P |
| 04:18.01 | sorphin | jacques: you should go join that dude that runs 'ihatethebmwmini.com' :P |
| 04:19.31 | jacques | sorphin: ppl who drive it do seem to like it a lot - even mags like SCC and GRM |
| 04:20.12 | sorphin | jacques: then, just like w/ anything else |
| 04:20.18 | sorphin | you shouldn't trash it until you try it :) |
| 04:22.34 | jacques | sorphin: I don't recall trashing it - I was talking about objective specs |
| 04:23.26 | sorphin | jacques: that was a general statement |
| 04:23.39 | sorphin | sorry |
| 04:25.51 | jacques | anyway, I'm sure the Cooper S would totally destroy my Miata in a drag race, and probably braking with those huge discs and tires |
| 04:26.27 | jacques | but I can do cool U-turns with power-oversteer :-) |
| 04:26.56 | jacques | top speed too would be higher in the mini |
| 04:27.07 | sorphin | jacques: my steering won't even touch the engine *g* |
| 04:27.23 | jacques | heh |
| 04:27.28 | sorphin | top speed in the mini is bout 135 |
| 04:27.54 | jacques | miata with soft top up is about 122, top down is slower |
| 04:27.58 | sorphin | tho only place i'll see that is if i take it to the track |
| 04:28.13 | sorphin | jacques: btw, i think anyone that has a miata w/ a hard top |
| 04:28.17 | sorphin | should be shot on sight |
| 04:28.28 | jacques | yeah the track tests I have seen on the S were very positive |
| 04:28.54 | jacques | yeah I hardly ever put my top up |
| 04:28.55 | sorphin | jacques: guess what's coming mid-late 2004 |
| 04:29.01 | sorphin | a cabrio mini |
| 04:29.26 | jacques | oh and chassis rigidity - the mini will rule the miata in that |
| 04:29.46 | jacques | elise is supposed to be here in April 2004 |
| 04:30.08 | sorphin | wtf is elise? |
| 04:30.28 | jacques | but we still don;t know what they are going to do to the bumpers and what engine it will have - the UK engine is not emissions legal |
| 04:31.28 | jacques | sorphin: http://lotuscars.com/pic1.jpg |
| 04:31.30 | sorphin | jacques: same prob the mini S has, there've been some stumble, etc probs |
| 04:31.50 | sorphin | seem to be cuz of the tighter emissions, they make it run lean at some points |
| 04:32.06 | sorphin | tho, replacing the ecu will fix that :P |
| 04:32.21 | jacques | UK specs: http://lotuscars.com/ukelise_specs.html |
| 04:32.37 | sorphin | jacques: all you had to say was lotus, now i know what it is |
| 04:33.04 | jacques | sorphin: sorry :-) |
| 04:33.18 | jacques | Dry weight 757Kg* [1665 lbs] bwahh ha ha haaa!!!! |
| 04:33.33 | sorphin | jacques: my civic weighs more :P |
| 04:33.46 | jacques | US version will be heavier because the bastages are going to add leather for the stupid US consumers |
| 04:34.15 | jacques | and bumpers, and carpet and stereo and wh oknows what else |
| 04:35.02 | sorphin | jacques: weight |
| 04:35.06 | sorphin | 2678 |
| 04:35.20 | sorphin | but it's got a super charger, so it's ok ;) |
| 04:35.37 | jacques | yeah my miata door says 2230 |
| 04:35.49 | jacques | yeah I want to supercharge my miata |
| 04:35.50 | sorphin | power to weight: 1hp:16.4lbs |
| 04:36.12 | jacques | my goal is 220-240 rwhp |
| 04:36.17 | sorphin | what's gonna suck is having to use super unleaded now :P |
| 04:36.26 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:36.27 | jacques | more than that and expensive things start to break |
| 04:36.42 | sorphin | drag coeff .36 |
| 04:36.52 | sorphin | sorry, 0-60 was 6.9 |
| 04:36.55 | jacques | heh I am paying $2.29 for premium |
| 04:37.05 | sorphin | still smokes my civic at 11-12 :P |
| 04:37.24 | jacques | i loved my 89 civic dx hatchback |
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| 04:37.29 | sorphin | jacques: been weighing whether to do super |
| 04:37.29 | sorphin | or |
| 04:37.36 | sorphin | regular unleaded w/ octane additive |
| 04:38.31 | jacques | what were you saying about the ECU ? in many states it's illegal to use a programmable ECU on the street - wihch I want to do - so I may wait til I leave CA |
| 04:38.55 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:39.09 | sorphin | and just how are they gonna prove you changed your ECU? |
| 04:39.17 | sorphin | you can change your ecu just like you can your exhaust :P |
| 04:39.34 | sorphin | as long as you meet emissions specs (where it matters) |
| 04:39.43 | sorphin | thank god i don't live in cali |
| 04:39.47 | sorphin | ;) |
| 04:40.37 | jacques | in CA they inspect under the hood |
| 04:41.03 | jacques | and anything witout a CARB OE number gets you in trouble |
| 04:41.15 | sorphin | yeah |
| 04:41.26 | sorphin | and i've seen shit where people got fined for the damn height of their car |
| 04:41.29 | sorphin | :P |
| 04:42.04 | jacques | yeah they have tons of laws and selectively enforce them |
| 04:42.04 | sorphin | in cali that is |
| 04:42.13 | jacques | which I hate |
| 04:42.19 | sorphin | hehe |
| 04:42.25 | jacques | even tho they usually arent interested in me |
| 04:42.50 | sorphin | jacques: a miata's more of a chick car than a civic according to polls ;) |
| 04:42.51 | jacques | heck I have been driving here for 2.5 years without front plates |
| 04:43.28 | jacques | yeah miata definitely has that perception - chick or "hairdresser" car |
| 04:43.47 | jacques | I don't care - I got it for the handling |
| 04:43.47 | sorphin | jacques: you rebel you ;) |
| 04:44.09 | jacques | autocrossed for 2 solid years like 3 times a month |
| 04:44.12 | sorphin | jacques: come to st louis and i'll take you to the track ;) |
| 04:44.24 | jacques | never been to a track day - that's high on my list |
| 04:44.41 | jacques | I need to get a roll bar first tho - they are almost always required |
| 04:44.57 | sorphin | yeah, friend at work that used to have a miata had one |
| 04:45.28 | sorphin | i say used to, cuz he traded his miata (a 99 w/ only 18,000 miles i think it was at) and his truck, towards an avalanche :P |
| 04:46.10 | jacques | OMG |
| 04:46.22 | sorphin | ? |
| 04:46.23 | jacques | how tragic |
| 04:46.32 | sorphin | well, he got married, so.. |
| 04:46.32 | jacques | an avalanche ? |
| 04:46.35 | jacques | ah |
| 04:46.50 | sorphin | can't tow a boat w/ a miata either ;) |
| 04:47.08 | sorphin | seen a jet ski towed tho |
| 04:47.13 | jacques | nope - I'm not even supposed to tow with my wrangler - wheelbase too short |
| 04:47.41 | jacques | ppl used to tow tiny trailers holding tires/wheels and jacks etc to autox |
| 04:48.14 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:48.22 | sorphin | man |
| 04:48.25 | sorphin | this chick is odd |
| 04:48.52 | sorphin | apparently gets off dressing like a horse (the mouth piece, etc) and having ppl ride her |
| 04:48.57 | sorphin | only on vh1 |
| 04:48.58 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:49.40 | jacques | apparently that's a whole fetich scene |
| 04:49.43 | jacques | techsh |
| 04:49.47 | jacques | fetish dammit |
| 04:49.58 | jacques | ponygirls |
| 04:50.00 | sorphin | like furries |
| 04:50.24 | jacques | i saw something about it on HBO - it was really strange |
| 04:50.31 | jacques | apparently it has a long history |
| 04:50.40 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:50.48 | sorphin | anyways, back to cars ;) |
| 04:51.36 | sorphin | personally, i didn't care for the look of the mini convertible.. but a bunch on the mini forums like how it looks |
| 04:51.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:51.57 | jacques | I'm not sure if I've seen a pic yet |
| 04:52.35 | sorphin | hold |
| 04:53.39 | sorphin | jacques: there's 1 pic: http://www.bridger.us/mini/pictures/mcs_cabrio.jpg |
| 04:54.34 | jacques | hmm not bad |
| 04:55.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:57.02 | sorphin | jacques: http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/5992.jpg |
| 04:57.31 | sorphin | http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/6069.jpg |
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| 13:19.22 | chouimat | afternoon guys |
| 13:19.44 | sjhill_ | lo' chouimat |
| 13:19.58 | GPSFan | chouimat: good morinig too ;>) |
| 13:20.16 | chouimat | GPSFan i'm currently in Czech republic so it's afternoon |
| 13:20.17 | sjhill_ | ~fishslap sorphin |
| 13:20.18 | | ACTION slaps sorphin up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 13:20.47 | GPSFan | cool, how's the weather there? |
| 13:21.16 | chouimat | GPSFan really good nice sun and nice women too so ... |
| 13:21.26 | GPSFan | ;>) |
| 13:22.19 | chouimat | GPSFan will post the photo when I'm backhome next week |
| 13:23.02 | GPSFan | chouimat: of the sun, women, or both? ;) |
| 13:24.23 | chouimat | GPSFan women in the sun |
| 13:25.12 | GPSFan | swell!! |
| 13:36.19 | TomW`busy | @#!@# microsoft worms |
| 13:36.39 | chouimat | hi TomW`busy |
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| 13:43.31 | TomW | The worm traffic is so bad, at times, nothing is moving on the net. |
| 13:46.03 | sjhill_ | TomW: i shut my firewall and DSL off for 2 days until verizon got their but in gear |
| 13:46.25 | TomW | :( |
| 13:46.47 | TomW | This shit has got to stop |
| 13:47.50 | Lethal | these damned antivirus things need to be shot as well, for half the spam thats going around with spoofed from addresses, the stupid antivirus stuff generates just as much traffic letting you know your address was used for sending a virus |
| 13:51.19 | Lethal | a few days ago it was almost 1:1 for spam vs antivirus crap. quite irritating. |
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| 13:52.17 | TomW | Aside from the traffic, the level of spam has increased dramatically. |
| 13:54.22 | Lethal | I haven't seen too much today yet, yesterday and the day before were the worst for me. |
| 13:54.50 | Lethal | hopefully it'll start levelling off soon |
| 13:57.47 | TomW | maybe what we need is a "nanny" to allow / kick M$ machines on / off the net. For example: when you go to Circuit City and buy your computer, before your ISP will let you on the net, you have to install the monitoring software. |
| 13:58.27 | Lethal | I think a lot of these issues wouldn't be issues of things like outlook didn't automatically open up jpeg attachments and things of that nature in a preview window. |
| 13:58.28 | TomW | Then, the ISP can query the "nanny" to see if the machine is sick or not and if it is, disable the ISP account. |
| 13:58.36 | Lethal | a bit of common sense shouldn't be much to ask :P |
| 13:59.01 | TomW | Problem is, is that as weak as M$ o/s is, someone would hole that one too. |
| 13:59.55 | signal11_ | Lethal: are you telling me that people still use outlook after all those viruses in the past few years? |
| 14:00.01 | Lethal | their policies don't make any sense. on a default install they leave rpc ports wide open when at the same time they say that stuff should never be exposed to the outside world and is only intended for a local network. |
| 14:00.01 | signal11_ | i find that hard to believe |
| 14:00.37 | Lethal | signal11_, hard to believe, but still the case. although MSFT announced they were end of lifing outlook express, so that may cut down on a bunch of it :P |
| 14:00.59 | TomW | signal11_: the clueless masses think that thier anti-virus will protect them... |
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| 14:09.57 | chouimat | hey prpplague |
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| 14:12.08 | TomW | prpplague: bbl, I'm going to ditch this xchat 2.0 and revert back to 1.x |
| 14:14.36 | prpplague | chouimat: morning |
| 14:14.49 | chouimat | prpplague afternoon :) |
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| 15:25.15 | file[wifi] | hello Tim |
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| 15:36.40 | CosmicPenguin | Some sick pictures of Mars on space.com |
| 15:36.45 | CosmicPenguin | Courtesy of Hubble |
| 15:42.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: s/sick/nice/ |
| 15:44.16 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: sick==nice |
| 15:44.19 | CosmicPenguin | Didn't you know that? |
| 15:44.37 | CosmicPenguin | as in "Man, this processor is *sick*!" |
| 15:45.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: never talked that way |
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| 15:46.17 | sieve_work | morning all |
| 15:52.07 | sorphin | sieve_work: morning |
| 15:54.57 | jnork | Maybe somebody meant "slick?" |
| 16:14.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which dvdr did you say you had? |
| 16:14.40 | prpplague | sorphin: i guess i should ask you instead |
| 16:14.48 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, which model was it again? |
| 16:16.51 | sorphin | prpplague: pioneer DVR-104 |
| 16:29.57 | signal11_ | CosmicPenguin: these opterons look dope sick |
| 16:32.24 | prpplague | sorphin: you use dvd+r or just dvd-r discs? |
| 16:53.15 | sorphin | prpplague: - (minus) r/rw |
| 17:06.39 | thekernel | signal11_: Have you gotten your hands on an Opteron? |
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| 17:47.21 | prpplague | thekernel: we have two sitting idle, lol |
| 18:06.41 | signal11_ | no |
| 18:06.48 | signal11_ | lsmicro stocks them, though |
| 18:07.45 | signal11_ | 300 for the cpu |
| 18:07.56 | signal11_ | low-end cpu that is |
| 18:08.07 | signal11_ | another 300 for a motherboard |
| 18:08.43 | signal11_ | hopefully santa will bring me one |
| 18:18.38 | CosmicPenguin | When the kernel OOMs something, it will post a log message, right? |
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| 18:27.19 | thekernel | signal11_: I've looked at the price diff between LS and PenguinComputing and I like the PC price. |
| 18:27.32 | thekernel | for opterons that is... |
| 18:29.01 | signal11_ | cool. get a beowulf cluster of them |
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| 19:00.20 | sorphin | chouimat: stop using root ;) |
| 19:03.45 | ade|desk | evening all |
| 19:03.55 | chouimat | sorphin: ok will do that next week ;) |
| 19:04.42 | CosmicPenguin | thekernel: since when are you the clustering fool? |
| 19:12.48 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: good news.. got the vcr to talk to my series 2 tivo |
| 19:13.43 | sorphin | doesn't see it on the RF nor RCA input, but does if i patch it over via a switcher or adapter to SVid |
| 19:27.34 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: rock on |
| 19:33.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: now need to get rid of noise (both that, a video cam elsewhere, etc) have a scrolling noise bar (prolly from all the machines around :P |
| 19:38.48 | Russ | I thought you guys turned that root thing off |
| 19:39.01 | Russ | I actually had a productive meeting with triad though |
| 19:41.20 | CosmicPenguin | Triad, or *the* triad? |
| 19:41.23 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 19:41.46 | kergoth | hrm |
| 19:42.23 | CosmicPenguin | If Russ is now a made man with the Hong Kong mafia - I'm not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing for the rest of us |
| 19:42.31 | Russ | er |
| 19:42.34 | Russ | not triad |
| 19:42.36 | Russ | trident |
| 19:43.11 | Russ | its actually relaunching as XGI on the 15th |
| 19:43.41 | Russ | cause SiS spun off their 3d chipset stuff as Xabre (Sabre with an X) |
| 19:43.51 | Russ | and now trident and xabre are merging |
| 19:43.59 | Russ | so I guess its a rip on sgi |
| 19:44.45 | Russ | they are right across the street from fry's |
| 20:01.20 | Lethal | across the street from fry's? you mean the one in sunnyvale? |
| 20:02.54 | Russ | I don't know, the one with the eletron wave on the front |
| 20:03.01 | Russ | near little korea |
| 20:03.23 | Lethal | all the fry's have the wave on the front |
| 20:03.38 | Lethal | the only trident building I know is the little black one across from fry's in sunnyvale :P |
| 20:03.59 | Lethal | I used to work a few blocks down from there when I was at montavista |
| 20:04.01 | Russ | oh...the ones in AZ don't have a wave |
| 20:04.09 | Russ | jaton is near there too |
| 20:04.23 | Lethal | weird. I wonder if the one in austin has a wave :P |
| 20:05.15 | Russ | ya, sunnyvale |
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| 20:52.16 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: problems? |
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| 20:53.25 | jnork | He's just trying to customize his desk. |
| 20:53.29 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: combination of problems, boredom and heat |
| 20:53.30 | jnork | Or his forehead. |
| 20:56.29 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I've got this web server that seems to be holding on to connections in the FIN_WAIT2 state instead of releasing them |
| 20:57.31 | CosmicPenguin | so my application that continually sends printer information to the web server is running out of sockets after a few hours |
| 20:59.55 | file[wifi] | HTTP 1.0 or 1.1? |
| 21:00.05 | CosmicPenguin | 1.1 |
| 21:00.26 | CosmicPenguin | My webserver works great |
| 21:00.33 | CosmicPenguin | ITs the webserver that counts that is broked |
| 21:00.39 | file[wifi] | 1.1 keeps a socket open so that if a browser needs to request more pages/etc it works quicker |
| 21:00.46 | file[wifi] | (didn't know if you knew that...) |
| 21:01.05 | file[wifi] | it's possible the web server is broken so that those are timing out... |
| 21:01.19 | file[wifi] | that's what comes to my mind when you describe that problem... |
| 21:01.25 | CosmicPenguin | But wouldn't they stay open in the ESTABLISHED state? |
| 21:01.45 | file[wifi] | let me see! |
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| 21:02.58 | file[wifi] | it heads into TIME_WAIT For me |
| 21:03.59 | file[wifi] | CosmicPenguin: a quick Google looks like other people have had this problem |
| 21:05.09 | CosmicPenguin | Its the web server? |
| 21:05.58 | file[wifi] | CosmicPenguin: can you close the socket in your own code? |
| 21:06.20 | CosmicPenguin | I'm using Curl |
| 21:06.50 | CosmicPenguin | file[wifi]: you have some urls for me to peruse? |
| 21:06.59 | CosmicPenguin | Or better yet, what google search did you do? |
| 21:07.28 | file[wifi] | FIN_WAIT2 not closing |
| 21:07.29 | file[wifi] | :) |
| 21:08.36 | file[wifi] | FIN_WAIT2 = all buffered data sent, waiting for remote to shutdown |
| 21:09.35 | file[wifi] | CosmicPenguin: I think (don't quote me on this) but the webserver is waiting for your end to close the connection |
| 21:10.00 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm... thats a possibility |
| 21:10.17 | file[wifi] | http://linux-ip.net/html/tools-netstat.html |
| 21:10.39 | file[wifi] | that tells what each thing means, and FIN_WAIT2 says "the connection has been closed, our socket is waiting for the remote endpoint to shut down" |
| 21:10.55 | CosmicPenguin | Thats interesting |
| 21:11.11 | CosmicPenguin | That would point at a curl bug |
| 21:11.21 | CosmicPenguin | But why wouldn't it break on my local web server? |
| 21:11.27 | CosmicPenguin | Distance? |
| 21:11.28 | CosmicPenguin | Nat? |
| 21:11.30 | file[wifi] | dunno... |
| 21:11.37 | file[wifi] | but it's not working LOL... |
| 21:17.48 | CosmicPenguin | YOu'll be waiting a while |
| 21:17.51 | CosmicPenguin | I had to redo the buildroot |
| 21:18.00 | file[wifi] | eek |
| 21:26.51 | ade|home | CosmicPenguin: no supercomputer to redo buildroot ... damn :( |
| 21:28.21 | prpplague | that reminds me, i need to test oz/oe buildroot on the dual opetron |
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| 21:31.14 | CosmicPenguin | file[wifi]: no joy |
| 21:31.43 | file[wifi] | CosmicPenguin: son of a gun |
| 21:32.00 | kergoth | prpplague: i've done an oz buildroot build on an opteron |
| 21:32.03 | kergoth | prpplague: its _amazing_ |
| 21:32.04 | kergoth | prpplague: :) |
| 21:32.17 | kergoth | prpplague: just remember to change the build arch to x86_64 in menuconfig |
| 21:36.04 | CosmicPenguin | file[wifi]: these are a series of PUT commands that I'm issuinghere |
| 21:36.09 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if that has anything to do with anything |
| 21:36.32 | file[wifi] | dunno... |
| 21:36.41 | file[wifi] | can you close the socket on your end at all??? |
| 21:36.48 | CosmicPenguin | Not really |
| 21:37.02 | file[wifi] | well that bites |
| 21:39.23 | Russ | file[wifi]: do you need to re-open it for listening and you can't? |
| 21:39.50 | file[wifi] | Russ: what? CosmicPenguin's web server is keeping ports in a FIN_WAIT2 state |
| 21:40.08 | Russ | that usually means that the clients died or got disconnected |
| 21:40.23 | Russ | you can change the fin wait timer |
| 21:40.25 | file[wifi] | Russ: well, the sockets never go away |
| 21:40.25 | prpplague | kergoth: cool, i was thinking about procuring the dual opteron for my desk area since the project was killed, lol |
| 21:40.47 | Russ | finwait2 is 15 minutes by default iirc |
| 21:41.09 | file[wifi] | Russ: after a few hours he runs out of ports or whatever and he has to restart to get rid of all the FIN_WAIT2 sockets |
| 21:41.48 | Russ | change the fin_wait2 timer |
| 21:42.07 | file[wifi] | CosmicPenguin: there you go - try what Russ says |
| 21:42.15 | Russ | is his firewall not letting the final ack through? |
| 21:42.23 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: thats what I thought |
| 21:42.32 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: And that might be the case, even though the guy on the other end says no |
| 21:42.52 | CosmicPenguin | But I was able to fix it it seems |
| 21:43.00 | file[wifi] | works now? |
| 21:43.35 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - I changed an option in Curl - it seems that curl tries to leave connections open unless you tell it not to |
| 21:43.55 | file[wifi] | hehe |
| 21:44.05 | CosmicPenguin | But you would think that the next attempt would just reuse the connection |
| 21:44.22 | file[wifi] | maybe it's logic isn't that smart |
| 21:44.23 | Russ | thats not what a fin_wait2 state is |
| 21:44.23 | CosmicPenguin | It seems that the web server on the other end had different ideas |
| 21:44.30 | CosmicPenguin | Especially since my local web server works fine |
| 21:44.59 | Russ | finwait2 is waiting for that final (ok, its closed) packet from the client |
| 21:45.18 | Russ | it'll keep sending the second to last close packet over and over again |
| 21:45.27 | Russ | similar to when you are sending a syn, waiting for an ack |
| 21:50.26 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if the kernel has something to do with it |
| 21:51.39 | file[wifi] | sacrifice something, that almost always works |
