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| 02:13.26 | chouimat|bored | night |
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| 13:00.38 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:45.15 | GPSFan_ | TomW: hey, got time for a buildroot-webpal question? |
| 15:48.09 | GPSFan_ | TomW: I lost a hard drive yesterday and am rebuilding my webpal stuff. |
| 15:48.38 | GPSFan_ | TomW: got the toolchain and all your buildroot-webpal stuff from your website. |
| 15:50.13 | GPSFan_ | TomW: when makedevs runs it makes about a dozen devs then segfaults when trying to free(name) ..../boot/var/dev/console |
| 15:50.53 | GPSFan_ | TomW: if I skip over the free (in gdb) it builds a few more then segfaults in free(name) again. |
| 15:51.12 | jacques | shanip - that's what I was trying to remember yesterday |
| 15:51.13 | GPSFan_ | TomW: seen anything like this before, any ideas on fixing it? |
| 15:51.32 | GPSFan_ | hi jacques: |
| 15:57.43 | jacques | hi GPSFan_ :-) |
| 15:58.29 | GPSFan_ | jacques: playing with your tuxscreen again? |
| 15:58.31 | jacques | i just got a couple more webpals at surpluscomputers - 9.95 each |
| 15:58.48 | jacques | GPSFan_, I became interested in VOIP yesterday |
| 15:59.07 | jacques | would like to play with VOIP on tux |
| 15:59.10 | GPSFan_ | jacques: ah, thus the interest in shanip... |
| 15:59.21 | jacques | yep :-) |
| 16:00.21 | GPSFan_ | would be cool, I think Gork had something going, seen this: http://www.iptel-now.de/HOWTO/TUX_SIP/tux_sip.html ? |
| 16:00.35 | jacques | ah thanks - havent seen that |
| 16:01.05 | GPSFan_ | a bit old, but at least the link works ;>) |
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| 16:55.26 | TomW | GPSFan_: sorry, was chatting on the phone. What's up? |
| 16:57.03 | TomW | GPSFan_: yeah, the code snippet I swipped from Andersee doesn't play well with the later glibc (xstrdup() fsck's up somehow), I have a better makedevs if you want me to dcc it to you? |
| 17:18.27 | jacques | TomW, how's your webpal isa card going? |
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| 17:52.17 | file | hi andersee |
| 17:52.45 | TomW | anyone know how to say "XOR R1, #1" in ARM asm? |
| 17:53.07 | TomW | is it "XRL R1, R1, #1" or something? |
| 17:53.24 | TomW | ... or XOR? |
| 17:54.42 | TomW | ARM Arch Ref manual SUCKS |
| 17:54.42 | andersee | file: howdy |
| 17:55.08 | chouimat | TomW: :) |
| 17:56.12 | TomW | chouimat: I'd been up the ARM site a number of times and all I can think of is that they deliberately obfusicate the information up there so you have to pay them moeny to get the info you need. |
| 17:56.29 | TomW | "eor r1, r1, #1" assembles |
| 17:57.09 | chouimat | TomW: I have the pdf of the manual here |
| 17:59.57 | TomW | chouimat: so do I ... |
| 18:01.18 | chouimat | TomW: documentation is an after thought of several design process |
| 18:04.26 | TomW | chouimat: yeah, done that enough times myself, heh |
| 18:05.49 | chouimat | summer rain is fun but when it's below 10C rain is kind of cold |
| 18:25.02 | TomW | GPSFan: ping |
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| 18:27.27 | TomW | jacques: going good: the IDE interface works (Compact Flash + 2.5" drive), 10BaseT is working, I have yet to start work on the Quad Uart. First, I need to rework blob so I can use it to boot the webpal from the Compact Flash. |
| 18:28.11 | GPSFan | TomW: pong, I figured it out, I had forgotten that you need to remove the free(name) line. works now. |
| 18:28.14 | prpplague | TomW: hows that going? |
| 18:29.06 | TomW | GPSFan: I replaced the xstrdup() with an malloc() + strcpy(), that fixed the seg fault |
| 18:29.36 | TomW | prpplague: most of the changes are done, now I am in the process of trying to get it to boot. |
| 18:29.59 | TomW | prpplague: "it" being blob, I am not yet sure where it dies. |
| 18:31.22 | jacques | TomW, are you planning on selling those boards? or are they for a client? |
| 18:31.25 | GPSFan | TomW: ah, I was reading about free() and it seemed to want a malloc() before. I'll try your way next. |
| 18:32.03 | TomW | GPSFan: the xstrdup does an malloc as well |
| 18:33.42 | GPSFan | TomW: k, just got 2 more webpals and want to get them up and running. |
| 18:34.32 | jacques | me too |
| 18:35.29 | TomW | jacques: I dunno, the cost of the assembled boards is not cheap. The boards cost me $35 per for the PCB and there is about another $50 in parts that go onto them. |
| 18:36.23 | TomW | jacques: most of youse guys doing this ARM stuff are too cheap to pay for a $100 surplus unit (e.g. TuxScreen), much less a $100 board. ;) |
| 18:36.45 | jacques | TomW, aah, so what's the justification for making them? |
| 18:37.08 | jacques | they do sound like expensive boards just from all their features |
| 18:37.45 | TomW | jacques: concept prototypes for selling a design to a potential customer. |
| 18:37.58 | jacques | TomW, cool |
| 18:39.10 | TomW | jacques: I am looking at the LH79520 processor from Sharp, the WebPal CPU (CLPS-7500FE) is approximately the same MIPS as the Sharp CPU. I need to demo the concept, the webpal is a cheap(?) way to throw the demo together. |
| 18:39.55 | jacques | TomW, makes perfect sense now |
| 18:45.37 | choui|regresstes | anyone got a tuxscreen to sell to someone in the great white north? |
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| 19:05.50 | TomW | chouimat: yeah, I got one in a great white box |
| 19:07.50 | chouimat | TomW: and you don't use it? |
| 19:08.30 | TomW | I have 5 of them here. |
| 19:08.49 | chouimat | ok |
| 19:10.38 | TomW | I think that I have one 64Meg & one 16Meg Tuxscreen I can sell. |
| 19:10.52 | chouimat | TomW: cool how much? |
| 19:11.16 | jacques | how much for the 64MB one :-D |
| 19:11.17 | TomW | I think that I have one 64Meg & one 16Meg & one 40Meg Tuxscreen I can sell. |
| 19:11.30 | jacques | did you ever get all the 64MB working? |
| 19:11.43 | TomW | $150 + shipping, yes, it works. |
| 19:12.13 | jacques | hmm extremely reasonable |
| 19:12.23 | chouimat | TomW: for which one 150? |
| 19:13.06 | TomW | one I modified the main memory up to 32Meg DRAM + the 32Meg SODIMM == 64Meg total memory. |
| 19:13.41 | TomW | jacques: I do have that one with the internal 10Gig hard drive + 64Meg DRAM... |
| 19:14.05 | jacques | TomW, kinda sad that you are selling them all tho :-( |
| 19:15.15 | TomW | jacques: nope, they served thier purposes very well for me! I purchased them to learn about the ARM processors and how to implement linux on ARM. |
| 19:15.39 | chouimat | TomW: I'm interested in getting one of those |
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| 19:15.42 | TomW | jacques: it was cheaper than purchasing an EVB from some manufacturer. |
| 19:16.52 | TomW | chouimat: I have: 64Meg + 10Gig drive ($250), 64Meg ($150), 40Meg ($100). plus shipping. |
| 19:17.10 | TomW | chouimat: all have linux preinstalled. |
| 19:17.31 | TomW | chouimat: ... and blob. |
| 19:17.36 | chouimat | TomW: all of them have the IDE interface? |
| 19:17.44 | TomW | chouimat: no, only one does. |
| 19:18.20 | TomW | chouimat: the IDE drive interface was an intellectual exercise to do interfacing to an ARM processor system. |
| 19:20.24 | jacques | heh I think the IDE one is unique |
| 19:21.09 | chouimat | TomW: ok I will check my bank this week ... the 64mb without the hdd is interesting |
| 19:21.54 | TomW | chouimat: no hurry, they will still be here, unless jacques snaps one up. |
| 19:22.04 | chouimat | TomW: the pcmcia slot are functionnal? |
| 19:22.33 | TomW | chouimat: yeah, IIRC, I left them alone, no mods. |
| 19:23.33 | TomW | chouimat: basically stock units which I reworked the memory on them and added a JTAG header that you can access from outside the case (10pin SIP 0.1" center) |
| 19:23.59 | chouimat | TomW: ok |
| 19:36.11 | TomW | still trying to get blob to "see" DRAM... |
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| 20:18.00 | TomW | got dram, cannot get blob to start... |
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