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| 01:10.36 | jacques | ibot: quote scox |
| 01:10.54 | jacques | ha ha |
| 01:11.13 | jacques | lost 7.8% |
| 01:19.47 | chouimat | oops 100$ |
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| 01:58.22 | chouimat | TABARNACK! my main box is dead |
| 01:58.55 | file[laptop] | what happened? |
| 01:59.29 | chouimat | file[laptop]: kernel panic while ircing ... |
| 01:59.42 | file[laptop] | and upon reboot? |
| 02:00.11 | chouimat | can't do fsck and on somereboot it doesn't reconize any disk even my SCSI ones |
| 02:00.22 | file[laptop] | oh my |
| 02:01.00 | chouimat | so stuck with a P200MMX |
| 02:10.43 | CosmicPenguin | ~dict TABARNACK |
| 02:11.12 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: canadian french swear word to express : frustration |
| 02:11.41 | CosmicPenguin | how is it pronounced? |
| 02:11.44 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: my main computer is dead ... I can develop on the rack mount server but ... |
| 02:11.54 | chouimat | TA-BAR-NACK |
| 02:12.07 | chouimat | err NAK |
| 02:14.12 | file[laptop] | chouimat: good luck with fixing it |
| 02:14.36 | chouimat | maybe it's not dead ... I can get to grub ... and it detect all my disk ... I will just reformat everything |
| 02:15.34 | CosmicPenguin | grab a kernel from the net and use that instead |
| 02:15.50 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I have the suse 8.2 disk |
| 02:15.57 | TomW`gone | tabarnak |
| 02:15.57 | TomW`gone | Click once to rate this definition: (votes: 3) |
| 02:15.57 | TomW`gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.57 | TomW`gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.10 | TomW`gone | heh |
| 02:16.15 | chouimat | TomW`gone: you visited quebec :) |
| 02:16.22 | CosmicPenguin | Kind of like "boody" across the pond? |
| 02:16.25 | CosmicPenguin | Or more crude? |
| 02:16.27 | TomW | nope, just google'd it |
| 02:16.37 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: more like FUCK |
| 02:17.14 | CosmicPenguin | So more cruke |
| 02:17.16 | CosmicPenguin | de |
| 02:17.18 | chouimat | and maybe more crude than f* ... we have a lot of them |
| 02:17.43 | chouimat | and they have all their level ... |
| 02:18.43 | file[laptop] | chouimat: severity? |
| 02:18.46 | TomW | yeah, looks like "fuck" is a close approximation. |
| 02:19.49 | TomW | time for beddy-bye.. |
| 02:22.35 | chouimat | damn I had a question for TomW ... ok if when I'm in bios if I see all the char blurry it's now a good sign? |
| 02:22.58 | chouimat | s/now/not |
| 02:24.17 | CosmicPenguin | Is your bios antialiasing fonts? :) |
| 02:26.30 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ... I got that some months ago after a power outage ... I will just reformat everything .. since I didn't have important contract on this box ... |
| 02:27.13 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: Ok - I just know reformatting is a PITA |
| 02:27.42 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I will just lost everything |
| 02:29.51 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: btw any news for what I posted you today ... I want to be keep informed if i need to change my computer ... |
| 02:33.36 | chouimat | ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG that mean I lost my teacher's pet collection .... |
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| 02:35.28 | ShadowRage | andersee: btw, I did an strace |
| 02:35.38 | ShadowRage | andersee: something about /etc/busybox.conf |
| 02:35.56 | ShadowRage | stat64("/etc/busybox.conf", 0xbffff648) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 02:37.22 | chouimat | ok I really need to go take a walk ... |
| 02:37.23 | ShadowRage | nm |
| 02:37.25 | ShadowRage | g2g |
| 02:37.25 | ShadowRage | later |
| 03:01.19 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: not right now, but when I know, you will know |
| 03:06.26 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I try to reinstall SuSE 8.2 with LVM and go can't create VG SYSTEM |
| 03:08.03 | chouimat | kergoth: my main box just died after a kernel panic and I can't reinstall |
| 03:08.15 | kergoth | doh |
| 03:08.42 | chouimat | kergoth: exactly so I just tried to use the LVM system but I can't |
| 03:08.53 | chouimat | brb |
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| 03:10.48 | chouimat | kergoth: and I don't have enough money to by a new computer ... and since I'm stuck with this p200mmx I can't do any contract too |
| 03:14.56 | chouimat | anbyway |
| 03:15.03 | chouimat | night |
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| 03:28.05 | chouimat | ok when you can't repartition any disk ... it's not a good sign |
| 03:28.21 | CosmicPenguin | Yes. Bad. |
| 03:29.06 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: it will be hard to do any contract from a p200/64mb ram |
| 03:29.46 | CosmicPenguin | Unless the contract involves a p200... :) |
| 03:30.16 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: you're so funny that my rib are hurting ;) |
| 03:34.10 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: the problem is i apply on some job south of the border and I can't read any emails |
| 03:39.52 | CosmicPenguin | Why not? |
| 03:40.17 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: because no hdd big enough on this box |
| 03:40.52 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh.. no web mail? |
| 03:41.28 | kergoth | cant use imap either? i mean, i can use mutt to check an imamp box from my zaurus, i'm sure you can from that p200 |
| 03:41.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:42.12 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: no gui, i'm ircing from my firewall |
| 03:42.31 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: thats why the powers that be invinted lynx |
| 03:43.07 | chouimat | the problem is : I lost all my porn manga !!!!!!!! |
| 03:46.24 | CosmicPenguin | its always the innocent that suffer |
| 03:46.40 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: yup |
| 03:47.20 | chouimat | ok time to install fetchmail and mutt |
| 03:48.43 | chouimat | ok I'm going to sleep, it begining to be too cold in the basement |
| 03:48.49 | chouimat | -4 C outsied |
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| 08:21.34 | Russ | /. is so stupid..."I've been using mapquest most of my life..." |
| 08:40.29 | fontenot | lol |
| 08:40.56 | fontenot | i have a hate/hate relationship with /. |
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| 13:48.32 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 13:50.20 | prpplague | chouimat: morning |
| 13:53.37 | chouimat | prpplague: my main box died ... I can't even do a lowlevel format on my ide hard disk |
| 13:54.31 | prpplague | doh |
| 13:55.15 | prpplague | tonight on channel 11, dumm dumm dummmmmm, "death of a hard drive" |
| 13:55.44 | chouimat | prpplague: no death of ide controller i can't even reboot from the cd |
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| 14:10.13 | sieve | morning all |
| 14:10.18 | prpplague | sieve: get to work |
| 14:10.31 | sieve | :P |
| 14:10.50 | prpplague | sieve: you know you have to clean up all those network mess's caused by the sales mutants |
| 14:11.02 | prpplague | sieve: you know.....the ones that have no clue!!! |
| 14:12.59 | prpplague | sieve: get this - scott handed me a project this morning at 8:30 it is now 9:15, and he's already changed the spec 3 times |
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| 14:17.13 | sjhill | lo' TimRiker |
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| 14:23.26 | sieve | prpplague: just goes to show how clueless they really are.... *sigh* |
| 14:24.07 | CosmicPenguin | sieve: its funny unless its the company you work for, huh? |
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| 14:24.52 | sieve | CosmicPenguin: indeed... |
| 14:31.58 | TimRiker | sjhill: yo. how's work? ;-) |
| 14:34.01 | sjhill | TimRiker: pretty fun |
| 14:45.45 | TomW | what is "work"? |
| 14:45.55 | TomW | ibot: work? |
| 14:45.56 | | somebody said work was slow right now, so TomW is trying to learn a new skillset so that I can market it later (ARM). |
| 14:46.26 | TomW | hmmm, wonder where that came from? |
| 14:47.45 | chouimat|angry | me change the powersupply of his main box seems to have fixed some problem and only the 30gb hdd is dead |
| 14:48.49 | TomW | chouimat|angry: sux |
| 14:49.21 | chouimat|angry | TomW: yup but buying a new hdd is less expensive than a new computer |
| 14:50.15 | chouimat|angry | TomW: i can't lowlevel format it on the box ... il will go try on another on ... |
| 14:50.37 | TomW | nod |
| 14:51.35 | chouimat|angry | or probably go buy a new one later this week but ... |
| 14:53.19 | TomW | chouimat|angry: I got good news this morning, it looks like that ARM design is a "go" with the customer, all we need to do is dicker over the cost. |
| 14:54.00 | chouimat|angry | TomW: better than me ... I go a kernel panic last night and a dead hdd |
| 14:54.21 | TomW | yeah, btdt |
| 14:54.48 | chouimat|angry | and since i got a kernel panic i think the drive is really dead ... |
| 14:55.06 | TomW | I recall the "sinking feeling" in the pit of my stomach when I realized the last time I had backed up the system before the hardware crashed. |
| 14:55.55 | chouimat|angry | TomW: me too ... and i just have 6 beers in the house last night so it's not too bad |
| 14:56.10 | TomW | chouimat|angry: fortunately, at the time, I had backed up 5 months earlier and the stuff I had worked on was not that critical. It was during a time when I had little work coming in. |
| 14:56.53 | chouimat|angry | TomW: I lost my database (the new version) and my mp3 collections and some porn anime very hard to find |
| 14:56.55 | sjhill | TomW: i had a disk scramble a few weeks back, lots of stuff in lost+found, but i couldn't figure out where it all was supposed to go, i reinstalled debian, backed up AND ran a file integrity program (something similar to tripwire), so that if i ever get another scramble or something, i can at least see what is missing or if it is even correct |
| 14:57.22 | chouimat|angry | brb |
| 15:00.04 | chouimat|angry | TomW: the drive was a used one that had problem in another setup ... it lived 18 months in my computer so it's not so bad |
| 15:02.02 | TomW | I run two computers here: a P-III 1GHz for development work, and a P-IV as a backup & datastore. I generally replicate critical directories over to the P-IV on an irregular basis. This way, if the P-III takes a dive, I have the P-IV as a backup. |
| 15:02.34 | TomW | 100BaseT works good for that stuff |
| 15:03.25 | TomW | I also run CVS on the P-IV machine so that all projects sources are kept up to date on both systems. |
| 15:03.50 | TomW | "you get burned, you learn" |
| 15:05.34 | chouimat|angry | TomW: I have 1 P200MMX for router, another for windows and misc, 1 PIII 1ghz for devel, 1 PIII 667 (the one in trouble) and soon a athlon 1.2 but it will only have 10gb |
| 15:06.39 | chouimat|angry | TomW: all my important stuff are on zip floppies ... but I didn't have time to transfert some ... |
| 15:07.01 | TomW | chouimat|angry: I am running 80Gig on the P-III and 120Gig on the P-IV |
| 15:07.44 | TomW | chouimat|angry: plus, DAT-3 SCSI tape drive on the P-IV machine |
| 15:08.27 | chouimat|angry | TomW: I think i will go buy a new harddrive thursday in quebec city because here i will pay them a lot or will get them in 2 days ... |
| 15:08.31 | TomW | I do hate to get my work interrupted... |
| 15:09.21 | TomW | chouimat|angry: there is always pricewatch.com ? |
| 15:09.54 | chouimat|angry | TomW: me too ... but I will take time to rebuild my freebsd development box correctly (the p3-1000) |
| 15:10.05 | TomW | ow |
| 15:10.34 | TomW | chouimat|angry: time to invest in high-capacity SCSI tape ? |
| 15:10.40 | chouimat|angry | TomW: I just need to fix some problem since I changed the way I build my firewall product lately ... |
| 15:11.06 | TomW | chouimat|angry: what product is that? |
| 15:11.08 | chouimat|angry | TomW: I just have about 1300 cad left in my bank account ... |
| 15:11.23 | chouimat|angry | ~change 1300 cad to usd |
| 15:11.40 | TomW | ibot: change 698 usd to cad |
| 15:12.09 | TomW | chouimat|angry: got you beat! I have less money than you do. :D |
| 15:12.18 | TomW | heh |
| 15:13.10 | chouimat|angry | TomW: but you have some contract to do :) |
| 15:13.54 | TomW | yeah, I have a purchase order coming in the next week and it has a required down payment, so I may be able to pay next months bills, hopefully. |
| 15:13.55 | chouimat|angry | brb |
| 15:21.36 | chouimat|angry | hmmm the bios of the other box see the hdd as a 15GB |
| 15:22.06 | TomW | chouimat|angry: old bios? |
| 15:22.19 | chouimat|angry | no p3-1000 |
| 15:22.47 | chouimat|angry | the hdd crashed in the middle of a lowlevel format last night |
| 15:28.22 | prpplague | wahoo! system uptime 28days, load average 27.12 |
| 15:28.49 | prpplague | 17 zombies eating 98% of the clock cycles |
| 16:52.01 | Russ | prpplague: who's the daddy? |
| 17:01.11 | prpplague | Russ: ?? |
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| 17:51.46 | CosmicPenguin | Somebody said something to me, but it was lost in the split |
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| 17:57.16 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: finaly fixed the box ... the boot hd is dead ... |
| 18:10.11 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat|out: good news |
| 18:39.08 | prpplague | looks like sjhill has a job for awhile - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6463991401.html |
| 18:56.21 | CosmicPenguin | The words "round of funding" always scares me |
| 19:06.33 | prpplague | hmm,if the company you work for signs an NDA, and you don't, what are the limitations on you? |
| 19:07.31 | prpplague | anyone know if there is a guide for OpenSource developers with regards to NDA's? |
| 19:08.36 | signal11_ | CosmicPenguin: aren't "customers"supposed to provide funding |
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| 19:09.27 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey tim |
| 19:10.04 | prpplague | TimRiker: maybe you know, is there any good ref material on NDA's and OpenSource development? |
| 19:11.36 | TimRiker | hmm. not that I'm aware of. |
| 19:12.44 | prpplague | TimRiker: oh well |
| 19:13.01 | prpplague | TimRiker: will i see you around tomorrow? |
| 19:13.38 | TimRiker | yep. I'll be there. |
| 19:14.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you have to obey the NDA as an agent of the company |
| 19:14.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: both professionally and personally |
| 19:14.19 | CosmicPenguin | At least thats how I read it |
| 19:16.18 | prpplague | TimRiker: lovely, you'll be on the panel? |
| 19:16.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i don't like the sound of that |
| 19:16.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it ain't good |
| 19:19.09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I just thought of something |
| 19:19.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: your company is supposed to document who gets access to the protected info |
| 19:19.37 | CosmicPenguin | So if you were never exposed to it, you have nothing to disclose, right? |
| 19:22.20 | pb_ | prpplague: a company is a legal entity in its own right. unless you are a director of the company, you don't have any direct obligations under any NDA that the company might sign (though your employment contract may impose some requirements on you). |
| 19:23.10 | prpplague | pb_: negative, i made sure i didn't sign any of those agreements, lol |
| 19:23.19 | pb_ | prpplague: heh, then you should be all set. |
| 19:23.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, never exposed |
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| 19:37.24 | kergoth | there we go |
| 19:37.27 | kergoth | mgetty done |
| 19:37.43 | George- | hey kergoth |
| 19:37.59 | George- | kergoth: just sold off my last two non-zaurus pdas :) |
| 19:38.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: if you can prove it, then you're golden |
| 19:52.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its not like its a problem atm, i was just thinking out loud |
| 19:57.20 | TimRiker | prpplague: yeah. fun huh? ;-) |
| 19:57.54 | TimRiker | who's NDA are we discussing? |
| 19:59.33 | prpplague | TimRiker: my current employer is having ongoing discussions about doing some thin client dev work |
| 19:59.43 | prpplague | TimRiker: they haven't signed anything yet |
| 20:02.06 | TimRiker | having you do it for them under contract? |
| 20:04.30 | prpplague | TimRiker: yea |
| 20:09.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: as long as you don't do it, no prob |
| 20:09.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't intend to :) |
| 20:11.37 | CosmicPenguin | If you can, you might want to get a signed document to that effect |
| 20:11.41 | CosmicPenguin | Though I know that would tip your hand |
| 20:13.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i already have one stating i'm not agreeing to any NDA |
| 20:19.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: You are golden - don't look at anything, and you're set |
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| 21:57.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, whats the name of that utility to convert a png to the logo.h file for the fb driver? |
| 21:59.40 | CosmicPenguin | fblogo? |
| 21:59.52 | CosmicPenguin | yep, thats it |
| 22:00.04 | prpplague | thanks |
| 22:02.43 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a kick ass utility, btw |
| 22:02.49 | CosmicPenguin | Combined with the LPP, its unstopable |
| 22:02.51 | prpplague | interesting |
| 22:02.59 | prpplague | i can;t seem to dl it from the web site |
| 22:04.14 | TimRiker | prpplague: I just added a clause to the NDA that excluded any information contained in open source code. and then a clause in the contract that everything I do in this contract was to be considered open source code. ;-) |
| 22:04.35 | TimRiker | I've done that with a few different companies now. |
| 22:04.51 | file[laptop] | TimRiker: that's cool |
| 22:06.01 | TimRiker | file[laptop]: it seems to work ok as log as I don't plan to do any non-open software development (which I haven't) |
| 22:06.15 | file[laptop] | TimRiker: ic |
| 22:06.29 | CosmicPenguin | I did that with a recent agreement as well |
| 22:06.53 | file[laptop] | can somebody e-mail me a windows virus? |
| 22:07.28 | signal11_ | happy halloween: http://bklyn.org/~cae/barfing-pumpkin.jpg |
| 22:07.33 | signal11_ | apologies if you have already seen it |
| 22:07.51 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: sorry - my flytrap is empty. Unless you need to extend your penis size, that is |
| 22:08.05 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: ISP would block it I'm afraid |
| 22:08.21 | prpplague | TimRiker: lovely :) |
| 22:17.00 | chouimat|busy | prpplague: hi |
| 22:18.24 | chouimat|busy | CosmicPenguin: those pill don't extend it ... you will just gain weight |
| 22:18.47 | chouimat|busy | LVM rocks |
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| 22:33.20 | ShadowRage | anyone on the uclibc mailing list? |
| 22:33.39 | ShadowRage | andersee: yo, did you figure out what was wrong from that strace? |
| 22:39.28 | ShadowRage | it's my system's chroot |
| 22:39.31 | ShadowRage | gah |
| 22:39.32 | ShadowRage | wtf |
| 22:40.57 | ShadowRage | gonna restart my machine.. bbl |
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| 22:47.46 | ShadowRage | my chroot is broken now |
| 22:47.57 | ShadowRage | WHAT THE HELL?! |
| 22:48.10 | ShadowRage | why is my chroot segfaulting? |
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| 22:53.51 | ShadowRage | Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. |
| 22:53.51 | ShadowRage | Cannot remove breakpoints because program is no longer writable. |
| 22:53.51 | ShadowRage | It might be running in another process. |
| 22:53.51 | ShadowRage | Further execution is probably impossible. |
| 22:53.52 | ShadowRage | 0x40000e8b in optind () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 22:57.54 | ShadowRage | oookay |
| 22:57.59 | ShadowRage | now we're gettin somewhere |
| 22:58.04 | ShadowRage | it works with my lfs thing |
| 22:58.19 | ShadowRage | but the filesystem thing I downloaded has busybox in control |
| 22:58.32 | ShadowRage | same with my final product directory |
| 22:58.37 | ShadowRage | soo, it's chroot |
| 22:58.42 | ShadowRage | damn I restarted for that |
| 22:58.44 | ShadowRage | dammit |
| 23:22.36 | TomW`gone | if anyone is interested, there is a hell of a deal on a surface mount reflow system on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2565424328&category=4661#ebayphotohosting |
| 23:45.34 | ShadowRage | hmmm, I think I know what it is.. busybox cant multitask... well under normal means... how do I get it to multitask? |
