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| 14:05.28 | sieve | morning all |
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| 14:21.30 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: ping |
| 14:22.34 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: heya |
| 14:22.41 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: X11 question for you |
| 14:22.46 | CosmicPenguin | and anyone else who might be listening |
| 14:23.02 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: shoot |
| 14:23.14 | CosmicPenguin | When the server gets an event for a client, does it send it immediately to the client |
| 14:23.26 | CosmicPenguin | and is it the client that queues the events rather than the server? |
| 14:24.00 | mallum | the server will queue outgoing events, but depending on there type they may go via the wm |
| 14:24.31 | CosmicPenguin | the reason why I ask, is I keep seeing applications that do their own select, but watch the X file descriptor |
| 14:24.48 | CosmicPenguin | And these programs always break Nano-X, becuase Nano-X queues events on the server until the client asks for them |
| 14:26.45 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeah you usually do your own sleect on the X filedescriptor if you want to poll something external to X |
| 14:28.44 | CosmicPenguin | But that would imply that the X is sending events without the client asking for them specificially |
| 14:31.50 | mallum | You select on the X socket with a timeout so if you dont get any events in that timeframe you can go and do something else ( like poll for hung apps in case of matchbox ) |
| 14:34.12 | CosmicPenguin | So what happens if I press a key in that interval, for example? |
| 14:34.22 | CosmicPenguin | does the event get automatically sent to the client? |
| 14:35.53 | mallum | yeah, the select wont timeout and the event will be recieved |
| 14:37.25 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - so thats a difference between Nano-X and X11 |
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| 14:46.46 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: how does nano-x's event loop work ? |
| 14:47.01 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: btw, how big is nano-x's version of xlib ? |
| 14:48.13 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: the nano-X event loop basically queues the events waiting for an event request |
| 14:49.12 | CosmicPenguin | It all happens on the server, which means that I could have 8 keyboard requests waiting for the client to spin around |
| 14:51.28 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: the nxlib is 206k |
| 14:52.11 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: but you have to toss in the size of hte nano-X library too: - about 65k |
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| 14:53.34 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 14:54.16 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: and how big is the server ? |
| 14:54.18 | CosmicPenguin | Holy crap - its santa claus! |
| 14:54.47 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: 300k |
| 14:55.01 | CosmicPenguin | But I didn't build in any of the image stuff or font stuff in that image |
| 14:55.36 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ok |
| 14:55.49 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I can get xlib down to 292k |
| 14:55.52 | prpplague | whats up today guys? |
| 14:56.33 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: thats good! |
| 15:31.35 | kergoth | mallum: nice |
| 15:32.38 | sorphin | canada is who funded SCO :P |
| 15:35.53 | mallum | kergoth: who did you send your tslib patches too ? |
| 15:36.13 | kergoth | douglas lowder |
| 15:36.26 | mallum | kergoth: the second guy in AUTHORS ? |
| 15:36.43 | kergoth | yup |
| 15:36.48 | kergoth | thats the correct email |
| 15:37.14 | mallum | kergoth: I sent him a patch for serial ts devices and never got anything back :/ |
| 15:37.26 | mallum | kergoth: also asked him about having it support 2 buttons |
| 15:37.47 | kergoth | er, how would a touchscreen support two buttons? |
| 15:37.55 | kergoth | key modifier? |
| 15:38.07 | kergoth | it takes him a while to respond at times, i still have like 4 patches pending |
| 15:38.10 | mallum | kergoth: yeah, both tablet PC's I have have it |
| 15:38.18 | mallum | kergoth: yeah I sent it like a month ago |
| 15:38.43 | mallum | kergoth: the HP one has a button on the pen, the peice of shit fujitsu on the screen |
| 15:39.04 | sorphin | mallum: afternoon old chap |
| 15:39.24 | mallum | sorphin: fuck off cunt lips |
| 15:39.32 | mallum | hehe |
| 15:39.58 | kergoth | mallum: ahh |
| 15:40.00 | sorphin | shoulda known better than to expect much from a commoner |
| 15:40.03 | mallum | sorphin: dont we usually abuse each other |
| 15:40.10 | kergoth | i thought about using a key modifier for a second button on the c7x0 |
| 15:40.28 | kergoth | figured i'd do it at the app layer though |
| 15:41.35 | mallum | kergoth: yeah could be done at app layer, as long as you've got a uniform way at getting at the key modifier |
| 15:41.43 | prpplague | ~quote sco |
| 15:41.58 | prpplague | ~quote scox |
| 15:42.03 | mallum | kergoth: maybe just a modifier flag for tslibs data |
| 15:42.37 | sorphin | prpplague: Royal Bank of Canada |
| 15:42.45 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, i read |
| 15:42.57 | kergoth | mallum: heh, changing struct ts_sample would have serious compatibility implications |
| 15:43.03 | sorphin | prpplague: i shoulda known it'd be the canucks ;) |
| 15:44.20 | sorphin | prpplague: since i don't watch southpark, that won't tell me anything |
| 15:44.27 | mallum | kergoth: is there not some padding in the struct you could use ? |
| 15:46.02 | kergoth | possibly, havent checked into it |
| 15:46.59 | kergoth | any good? |
| 15:47.06 | mallum | yeah really good |
| 15:47.15 | mallum | very violent, but in a kind of comedy way |
| 15:47.42 | sorphin | I *am* gonna see runaway jury tomorrow tho |
| 15:47.50 | mallum | sorphin: its pretty different to previews |
| 15:47.59 | mallum | sorphin: I know what you mean though |
| 15:48.10 | sorphin | mallum: i don't really care for Uma as an actress |
| 15:49.06 | CosmicPenguin | Its 10 o'clock in the freeking morning on October freeking 24th |
| 15:49.10 | CosmicPenguin | Summer is over, jackass! |
| 15:49.44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: cheery ole penguin today i see ;) |
| 15:50.53 | mallum | hmm, you'd think will a smaller xlib memory usage would be lower |
| 15:53.13 | CosmicPenguin | who knew? |
| 15:53.52 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: my accuntant billed me 500 quid for a fucking phonecall |
| 15:56.40 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: give it to mallum first |
| 15:57.00 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know how many 500 quid is, but if my years of watching Monty Python haven't been wasted, its alot |
| 15:57.17 | CosmicPenguin | Because I know the fruitbat was only 3 quid |
| 15:57.43 | mallum | its about 800 bucks |
| 15:57.49 | mallum | yankie doodle dandy |
| 15:57.53 | CosmicPenguin | Thats an expensive damn phonecall? |
| 15:58.02 | CosmicPenguin | You calling sexchat in the United States? |
| 15:58.48 | prpplague | mallum: yikes, 500 quid? |
| 15:59.05 | prpplague | mallum: that sounds kinda extreme for an accountant |
| 15:59.23 | mallum | prpplague: yeah he taking the fucking piss |
| 15:59.58 | prpplague | mallum: barrister maybe, but an accountant? |
| 16:01.13 | sorphin | +d |
| 16:01.23 | sorphin | mallum: even if you are a tosspot |
| 16:01.26 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:02.14 | mallum | I baught a new mini-itx this week too, wish I never had now :/ |
| 16:02.24 | sorphin | mallum: indeed |
| 16:02.52 | CosmicPenguin | The mini-itx is worth it |
| 16:03.07 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeah it would be if it could fit the picture in my TV |
| 16:03.11 | CosmicPenguin | I think today's Dilbert guest cartoonist is the guy who draws Luann |
| 16:04.39 | CosmicPenguin | Sorry - that was yesterdays |
| 16:04.58 | CosmicPenguin | Todays was the guy from Pearls before Swine - not a very good one |
| 16:05.16 | CosmicPenguin | But I was right about yesterdays |
| 16:05.19 | sorphin | yeah, steven pastis |
| 16:06.35 | CosmicPenguin | Darby Conley did Wednesdays |
| 16:06.45 | CosmicPenguin | Get Fuzzy is my new favorite strip |
| 16:07.31 | CosmicPenguin | That and the "The Norm" sunday strips - I like the artwork |
| 16:56.56 | CosmicPenguin | Why would somebody who writes proof of concept exploits for IE need to be offshore? |
| 17:00.06 | CosmicPenguin | Where is the crazy french canadian today? |
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| 17:05.45 | prpplague | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3890772815.html |
| 17:06.14 | prpplague | something i've never understood, sharp's arm cores are great, why the hell do they keep using intel? |
| 17:08.40 | CosmicPenguin | Because intel got the sharp execs laid |
| 17:09.32 | sorphin | ade|desk: lo |
| 17:09.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ah |
| 17:09.52 | prpplague | ibot: seen timriker |
| 17:09.54 | | timriker <~timr@proxyle02.ext.ti.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #pet, 21h 32m 31s ago, saying: 'VC?'. |
| 17:09.56 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: s/laid/paid/ |
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| 17:20.30 | prpplague | pb_: wheres your j? lol ( pbj ) |
| 17:21.40 | ade|desk | sorphin: long time no see! ello |
| 17:21.53 | sorphin | ade|desk: hows tricks? |
| 17:22.38 | ade|desk | sorphin: fine ta, you ? |
| 17:22.45 | sorphin | ade|desk: much better |
| 17:22.53 | ade|desk | sorphin: great news |
| 17:23.00 | sorphin | ade|desk: indeed |
| 17:23.03 | ade|desk | sorphin: so what you up to now / |
| 17:23.14 | sorphin | ade|desk: got a good woman now, and am adjusting to the car |
| 17:23.22 | sorphin | so other than still needing new job, i'm good |
| 17:23.30 | ade|desk | sorphin: car ? |
| 17:23.46 | ade|desk | sorphin: does the lady have a name ? |
| 17:23.51 | CosmicPenguin | Mini-cooper |
| 17:23.56 | sorphin | ade|desk: my 2004 mini cooper s |
| 17:23.59 | CosmicPenguin | Its her uncles name |
| 17:24.06 | sorphin | ade|desk: and yeah, her name's missy |
| 17:24.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
| 17:24.19 | ade|desk | short for? |
| 17:24.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: car and woman are 2 diff things, mr penguin |
| 17:24.33 | ade|desk | sorphin: ugh! the new mini!!! |
| 17:24.34 | sorphin | ade|desk: melissa |
| 17:24.40 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: oh? |
| 17:24.41 | sorphin | ade|desk: oh hush |
| 17:24.42 | ade|desk | sorphin: righty ho |
| 17:24.49 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I always confuse my wife and my volvo. |
| 17:24.55 | ade|desk | lol |
| 17:25.07 | ade|desk | which ovlov? |
| 17:25.10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: I'm sure stacee appreciates that when you try and change her oil :P |
| 17:25.36 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: Or when I bring the car flowers |
| 17:26.42 | ade|desk | CosmicPenguin: i dont want to know about what you do with the exhaust pipe |
| 17:26.47 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 17:27.02 | sorphin | ade|desk: he does like people from Wales do w/ sheep |
| 17:27.29 | prpplague | sorphin: cook them? lol |
| 17:27.57 | sorphin | prpplague: you don't know much about people in the UK do you? |
| 17:27.59 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:28.04 | prpplague | sorphin: i was jk |
| 17:28.09 | sorphin | prpplague:ah |
| 17:28.16 | sorphin | prpplague: go eat some cat tamales :P |
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| 17:28.52 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, had some with my eggs this morning, lol, probably have some in my fajitas tonight, lol |
| 17:29.05 | prpplague | sorphin: they are popular meat here in honduras |
| 17:29.07 | sorphin | TimRiker: afternoon mr timmy |
| 17:29.19 | sorphin | prpplague: they shipped you out again? |
| 17:29.39 | prpplague | sorphin: yea |
| 17:29.46 | prpplague | sorphin: new data center and store opening |
| 17:30.02 | sorphin | prpplague: sounds like they just like keeping you outta TX man |
| 17:30.27 | CosmicPenguin | Watch out for gorillas! |
| 17:30.30 | CosmicPenguin | hehe - Captain Ron |
| 17:30.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, no i you gorillas, not guerillas |
| 17:31.12 | prpplague | +said |
| 17:31.33 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah yeah monkeyboy |
| 17:31.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: have you seen the movie? |
| 17:31.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh yea |
| 17:31.52 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey tim |
| 17:36.41 | sorphin | prpplague: still got your exotic gf? |
| 17:37.06 | ade|desk | sorphin: not one but 2!!! |
| 17:37.08 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 17:37.29 | sorphin | ade|desk: what're you on about now git? |
| 17:37.55 | ade|desk | sorphin: not one gf but 2 for prpplague |
| 17:38.13 | ade|desk | maybe 3 or 4 |
| 17:38.28 | prpplague | ade|desk: naw, i'm back down to only one |
| 17:38.32 | ade|desk | exotic thingys |
| 17:38.48 | sorphin | ade|desk: ARM's don't count as gfs |
| 17:38.57 | ade|desk | shoot :( |
| 17:38.58 | kergoth`lunch | hah |
| 17:39.02 | ade|desk | i was way ahead |
| 17:39.20 | sorphin | kergoth`lunch: lo chrissy |
| 17:39.34 | sorphin | *duck* |
| 17:40.49 | kergoth`lunch | ~lart sorphin |
| 17:40.54 | kergoth`lunch | didnt duck far enough |
| 17:41.11 | ade|desk | chrissy ... rhymes with missy... hmm i see where sorphin is going with that one |
| 17:41.19 | sorphin | kergoth`lunch: that's ok, i still have the head that would keep missy happy :P |
| 17:41.50 | sorphin | ade|desk: now listen here, don't make me hurt you w/a bargepole |
| 17:42.08 | ade|desk | sorphin: you could never reach |
| 17:42.10 | sorphin | ade|desk: did you say kick? |
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| 17:42.24 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:42.29 | ade|desk | sheeeeeeeeeeeeet |
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| 17:43.25 | ade|desk | could be worse, could have been coventry |
| 17:43.45 | sorphin | ade|desk: taht's next |
| 17:43.56 | prpplague | ade|desk: or france |
| 17:44.07 | sorphin | and after coventry is colchester |
| 17:44.11 | ade|desk | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO never france |
| 17:44.26 | ade|desk | colchester is quite nice really |
| 17:44.36 | sorphin | ade|desk: not according ot a friend woh lived there |
| 17:45.04 | ade|desk | no spirit in him then |
| 17:45.20 | sorphin | ade|desk: i did like Cam tho (not the shire version) |
| 17:45.42 | ade|desk | sorphin: what ? |
| 17:45.51 | sorphin | ade|desk: cambridge |
| 17:45.59 | ade|desk | sorphin: skeaky the eenglishee |
| 17:46.16 | ade|desk | ah 'ambridge |
| 17:47.24 | sorphin | ade|desk: nothin like goin to the pub and havin some cider and black ;) |
| 17:47.56 | ade|desk | oh dear god |
| 17:51.15 | sorphin | what ver of gcc are you lot all using? |
| 17:52.11 | ade|desk | am on 3.3.2 |
| 17:52.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:52.44 | sorphin | well, unless you got a slowaris pkg of that :P |
| 17:52.51 | sorphin | best i'm gonna get is 3.3 |
| 17:53.46 | sorphin | it's funny |
| 17:53.49 | sorphin | 3.3 is 107M |
| 17:53.52 | sorphin | 3.3.1 is 90M |
| 17:54.01 | sorphin | the sub releases always get smaller :P |
| 17:55.03 | ade|desk | its a funny old world |
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| 18:47.41 | sorphin | ~bitchslap sjhill |
| 18:47.44 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sjhill |
| 18:48.11 | sjhill | sorphin: hiya' putz |
| 18:49.22 | prpplague | sjhill: hey, looks like you have a job for awhile |
| 18:49.23 | sorphin | sjhill: allo stevie |
| 18:49.31 | prpplague | sjhill: saw the funding pr for timesys |
| 18:49.50 | sjhill | prpplague: yup....things are looking pretty good |
| 18:51.11 | sorphin | Timesys, also funded by SCO via Royal Bank of Canada :P~ |
| 18:51.12 | sorphin | *smirk* |
| 18:51.17 | sjhill | heh |
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