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| 00:46.11 | CosmicPenguin | marklwrk: you there? |
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| 01:44.47 | Russ | geez vunerabilities in IE that have been known for two years and not been fixed |
| 01:44.53 | Russ | that when combine, allow easy rooting |
| 01:45.39 | chouimat | Russ: I now a place that you telnet thir webserver machine on port 80 and get Administrator acess of thier domain |
| 01:47.16 | Russ | it just amazes me that ms will spend $5 on a bounty program, but won't fix 2 year old vulerabilities |
| 01:47.35 | chouimat | Russ: MARKETING |
| 01:48.35 | Russ | here's to hoping it will be transparent |
| 01:51.55 | CosmicPenguin | Its a loosely veiled attempt to bribe researchers to not disclose their findings |
| 01:52.49 | jacques | you mean the rewards for virus writers? |
| 01:52.51 | jacques | idiocy |
| 01:55.39 | chouimat | bb in a bit ... need to spend sometimes with the cat |
| 01:58.30 | Russ | you really think they'll try to arrest people on proof of concept? |
| 01:58.47 | Russ | most of the viruses today practically write themselves |
| 02:03.15 | CosmicPenguin | Well lets see. We have created an environment where it easy for even a computer novice to exploit a hole using Basic.... |
| 02:03.41 | CosmicPenguin | But we wouldn't know about it if those damn computer scientists didn't quit pointing them out |
| 02:04.20 | CosmicPenguin | We know its not our fault, because our target development demographic can't even figure out how to count to 16 in hexdecimal |
| 02:05.04 | CosmicPenguin | Was I channelling that Microsoft mid level manager again? |
| 02:05.08 | CosmicPenguin | That happens all the time |
| 02:09.52 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: try some foil over your head ;) |
| 02:15.46 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: am I lying? |
| 02:18.50 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: no :) |
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| 03:33.49 | chouimat | night |
| 03:42.47 | TomW | chouimat: yes, and it is dark outside too. |
| 03:43.02 | chouimat | TomW: bah |
| 03:43.07 | TomW | hehhee |
| 03:43.59 | chouimat | hmmm fun my cat is busy watching pussies on the net ... |
| 03:44.29 | TomW | heh, I wish I was watching some of that myself, only not on the net... |
| 03:44.46 | chouimat | TomW: me too ... |
| 03:44.52 | kergoth | heh, ill second that |
| 03:44.55 | kergoth | er third |
| 03:44.58 | CosmicPenguin | Screw this - lets hit the strip joint |
| 03:44.58 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:45.04 | TomW | lol |
| 03:45.07 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah! |
| 03:45.18 | TomW | yes, the local Irv' BYO |
| 03:45.26 | TomW | yes, the local Irv's BYO |
| 03:45.35 | TomW | Topless waitresses |
| 03:45.39 | chouimat | wtf??? someone posted some pics from my ex-wife?? |
| 03:46.03 | TomW | chouimat: someone else getting some of that now? |
| 03:46.09 | CosmicPenguin | Lets see.... In utah we have no booze all nude, beer and pasties, or mixed drinks and thongs |
| 03:46.20 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: YO! |
| 03:46.36 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: yay for Quebec: all nude + beer |
| 03:46.36 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: progressive state! |
| 03:46.45 | CosmicPenguin | TomW: Utah? :) |
| 03:47.00 | CosmicPenguin | Trails is the beer place - pasties aren't that bad... :) |
| 03:47.35 | chouimat | pasties? |
| 03:47.39 | TomW | uh huh, nothing like that that I know of in Pennsylvania, too many retirees here. I guess they don't want the old geezers droppping like files and the places like that. |
| 03:48.00 | TomW | s/flies and/flies in/ |
| 03:48.05 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: their jumbiles are covered by nice little paper thngies |
| 03:48.26 | chouimat | TomW: it's what that keep the strip club alive here ... |
| 03:48.35 | chouimat | sorphin: ok thanks |
| 03:48.38 | TomW | chouimat: geezers? |
| 03:48.53 | CosmicPenguin | where did sorphin come from? |
| 03:49.15 | chouimat | TomW: yes ... you need to talk to your grand father when you grandmother is playing card ... go to the strip club :) |
| 03:49.28 | TomW | umm humm |
| 03:49.28 | kergoth | hah |
| 03:49.41 | TomW | grandfather is dead. |
| 03:50.11 | TomW | grandmother is not talking |
| 03:50.18 | chouimat | TomW: but the one I have here is the exactly oposite than those in vegas ... if you find the dancer cute ... you're nearing ethilic coma |
| 03:50.42 | chouimat | wait ... you're dead |
| 03:50.57 | TomW | IIRC, they call that "butt ugly"? |
| 03:51.18 | TomW | err, "deperate"? |
| 03:51.21 | TomW | err, "desperate"? |
| 03:52.41 | chouimat | TomW: desperate is a very kind word ... spend 60 years in Antartica alone and maybe you will find her cute |
| 03:53.24 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... vegas |
| 03:53.35 | TomW | I think that my whole problem is that I am a "nice guy", at least that is what the women tell me, however, they are not looking for a "nice guy", they want some A**H*LE that is about two inches away from a life prison sentence to fall for... :( |
| 03:53.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:53.51 | TomW | no shit |
| 03:53.51 | kergoth | the jerk phenomenon |
| 03:54.01 | sorphin | TomW: yup yup |
| 03:54.03 | chouimat | yup |
| 03:54.13 | kergoth | woman gets with nice guy, leaves him for jerk, guy's hurt, becomes jerk |
| 03:54.16 | kergoth | rinse, repeat |
| 03:54.24 | TomW | LOSER LOSER LOSER and she goes PANT PANT PANT.. |
| 03:54.42 | sorphin | TomW: did you forget to take your viagra 1st? |
| 03:54.49 | TomW | bah! |
| 03:55.04 | chouimat | kergoth: when she go with a nice guy ... he was working her for the last 5 years and everybody in town know her but him |
| 03:55.37 | chouimat | and he get some nice diseases |
| 03:59.43 | chouimat | ok i'm off |
| 04:00.37 | file | in the end, you're screwed |
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| 04:09.10 | TomW | ibot: wb |
| 04:09.11 | | thx |
| 04:52.08 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: you're a bot - no need to abbreviate here you l0sr |
| 04:52.10 | | CosmicPenguin: no idea |
| 04:59.50 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: help |
| 05:00.41 | CosmicPenguin | ibot covert 2500 kg to lb |
| 05:00.43 | | CosmicPenguin: I give up, what is it? |
| 05:03.32 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: 55 000lbs |
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| 15:07.42 | sieve | morning all |
| 15:08.11 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 15:11.29 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:13.04 | CosmicPenguin | where is the plague lately? He is computerless? |
| 15:15.05 | chouimat | ok back in 1hour I have the sun directly in my computer screens |
| 15:15.18 | CosmicPenguin | sieve - you know anything about these products: |
| 15:15.21 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.psionteklogix.com/public.aspx?s=com&p=Products&pID=972 |
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| 15:26.46 | sieve | CosmicPenguin: sorry, sure don't. That netpad looks nice though |
| 15:27.35 | sieve | prplague is here in the office. not sure why he's not on irc though |
| 15:28.13 | chouimat | hi sieve |
| 15:28.27 | sieve | hey chouimat |
| 15:29.05 | CosmicPenguin | sieve: I got into an animated discussion with these guys at a trade show the other day |
| 15:29.14 | CosmicPenguin | Who do you have to kill to get bare hardware ? |
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| 15:31.49 | sorphin | anyone that has any power to decide what company to use for things |
| 15:31.53 | sorphin | don't do business w/ MCI |
| 15:31.59 | sorphin | if you're smart |
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| 16:02.20 | mallum_ | who runs CIA ? |
| 16:02.32 | CosmicPenguin | The Stonecutters |
| 16:02.45 | mallum_ | CosmicPenguin: who are they ? |
| 16:03.17 | mallum_ | CosmicPenguin: the cia bot |
| 16:03.26 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 16:03.40 | sjhill | howdy all |
| 16:04.34 | sjhill | SH4 work today....did i time warp back to monday or something? |
| 16:06.06 | chouimat | sjhill: not so bad ... boring report writing today |
| 16:06.23 | sjhill | suddently sjhill's day looks a lot brighter |
| 16:06.50 | chouimat | sjhill: and since I like SH4 better than writing report |
| 16:07.17 | prpplague | sjhill: hey |
| 16:07.20 | prpplague | sjhill: question |
| 16:07.41 | prpplague | sjhill: timesys do any work on a linux/uclinux print server? |
| 16:11.05 | sjhill | prpplague: you already asked me that :) |
| 16:11.18 | sjhill | prpplague: i said "i dunno'" :) |
| 16:11.36 | sjhill | if we did, it was before me, 9 months past |
| 16:11.56 | CosmicPenguin | it was PS |
| 16:12.04 | prpplague | sjhill: yea, i know i asked, just didn't remember a response :) |
| 16:12.41 | prpplague | sjhill: just looking for one that is linux based |
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| 16:49.35 | chouimat | hi TimRiker sorphin ... |
| 16:50.00 | chouimat | sorphin: thanks I now want to listen to Timmy and the Lords of the underworld :( |
| 16:50.51 | sorphin | chouimat: um... right |
| 16:51.55 | CosmicPenguin | That was pretty much my reaction as well |
| 17:08.41 | TimRiker | huh? |
| 17:09.33 | chouimat | TimRiker: southpark joke |
| 17:10.39 | CosmicPenguin | but jokes are funny |
| 17:18.21 | sorphin | pointless and not very amusing |
| 17:18.55 | CosmicPenguin | Hence the unfunny nature of chouimat so called joke |
| 17:19.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yup |
| 17:19.12 | chouimat | bah |
| 17:20.16 | chouimat | sorphin: look I'm leaving in town where the young boy dream to be truckers so ... |
| 17:20.48 | chouimat | nm |
| 17:21.16 | sorphin | fine by me |
| 17:21.57 | CosmicPenguin | new gig ey? |
| 17:22.47 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: bit tired of being MCI's lackey, and a few recent events have sealed the fate |
| 17:23.32 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: no ... one of my assosiate sold his asset and the new one is asking me that I write report for everything I did in the last 3 years ... and he will see if he keep me ... and since they're a windows shop they will have fun with unix firewall software I did |
| 17:24.22 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: bastards |
| 17:24.30 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: and I'm not paid for doing it |
| 17:25.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i was put in for a promo/title change before they froze everything last fall |
| 17:25.31 | sorphin | now things are available (sorta) and my current manager doesn't think i'm due for shit |
| 17:25.57 | sorphin | so as far as i'm concerned, MCI can go to hell |
| 17:26.09 | chouimat | sorphin: good attitude |
| 17:26.28 | sorphin | chouimat: i sure hope that wasn't sarcasm |
| 17:27.53 | chouimat | sorphin: no my opinion is when your get home tired (intellectualy and want to kill everybody) it's time to change job because you're ruining your health |
| 17:42.31 | sorphin | chouimat: yeah |
| 17:48.39 | chouimat | sorphin: and being pissed off by your job is also a very good way to have a very unrestfull relationship with your gf ... and I know it |
| 17:52.38 | sorphin | we both hate our jobs and it hasn't affected our relationship at all cuz we don't take it out on eachother |
| 17:52.57 | CosmicPenguin | just wait |
| 17:56.35 | chouimat | sorphin: yup just wait ... and maybe it won't happend to you, and I hope it will be the case |
| 17:57.29 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: /me points and laughs at stupid gentoo users |
| 17:57.38 | Russ | 'Matt Garman wondered why his C++ program ran dramatically slower when compiled on a Gentoo machine than when compiled with Debian Sid.' |
| 17:57.49 | Russ | 'He later reported that recompiling the Gentoo C++ libraries with less aggressive optimization flags (-O2 instead of -O3) eliminated the speed difference.' |
| 17:58.21 | Russ | 99% of gentoo users probably compile most of their stuff with -O3 |
| 17:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | lol |
| 17:59.14 | kergoth | Russ: haha |
| 18:00.31 | Russ | oi |
| 18:01.03 | Russ | in response, one gentoo user says "Yup. That's why I'm recompiling my whole system with -Os (even gcc, glibc, kernel, etc.)" |
| 18:17.33 | MonMotha | Russ: yes, many gentoo users blindly turn on compiler options without knowing what they actually do |
| 18:17.45 | MonMotha | -O3 is pretty worthless most of the time in my experience |
| 18:17.49 | MonMotha | breaks more stuff than it speeds up |
| 18:17.52 | sjhill | has anyone ever seen random segfaults and have it turn out to be a cache or memcpy issue? |
| 18:19.06 | CosmicPenguin | I had a client with an XScale that sad random segfaults, and it turned out exactly to be an improperlly configured cache |
| 18:19.17 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.25 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: ugh, i was hoping that you would not say that |
| 18:22.47 | sorphin | MonMotha: i never do more than -O2 |
| 18:23.52 | fontenot | hmm I thought the c++ lib ebuilds overrode the user's -O with -O2 |
| 18:24.02 | fontenot | if they dont they probably should |
| 18:24.18 | fontenot | several of the critical packages do that |
| 18:25.23 | kergoth | i vote for cluebatting the users instead |
| 18:27.08 | fishhead | radio.c64.org <-- c64 remixes rock :) |
| 18:27.18 | sorphin | ~cluebat kergoth |
| 18:27.21 | | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps kergoth. |
| 18:27.26 | sorphin | kergoth: did you say cluebat? ;) |
| 18:30.37 | MonMotha | fontenot: I've seen ebuilds override CFLAGS to -O3 |
| 18:30.48 | MonMotha | and other silly, generally unstable options |
| 18:33.51 | chouimat | ~rcluebat |
| 18:34.01 | chouimat | what no random |
| 18:37.50 | sorphin | chouimat: no |
| 18:37.57 | sorphin | chouimat: because i didn't put in a random :P |
| 18:38.47 | kergoth | ~rcluebat is <reply> see cluebat $randnick |
| 18:38.48 | | okay, kergoth |
| 18:38.50 | kergoth | ~rcluebat |
| 18:38.58 | kergoth | hm |
| 18:39.11 | kergoth | ~literal rlart |
| 18:39.13 | | rlart is <reply> see lart $randnick |
| 18:39.15 | kergoth | ~literal rcluebat |
| 18:39.16 | | rcluebat is <reply> see cluebat $randnick |
| 18:39.19 | kergoth | odd |
| 18:39.21 | kergoth | ~rcluebat |
| 18:39.27 | kergoth | damn bot |
| 18:50.43 | sorphin | ~lart kergoth |
| 18:51.05 | bryanw | kergoth: how about some virtual console support in the oe kernel ? |
| 18:51.18 | bryanw | need it for the keymap stuff |
| 18:51.30 | bryanw | and chvt |
| 18:51.46 | bryanw | and hwclock support |
| 18:54.26 | kergoth | bryanw: it isnt enabled now? k |
| 18:54.31 | Russ | ~rcluebat someone |
| 18:54.49 | bryanw | kergoth: nope |
| 18:54.54 | bryanw | ~rcluebat kergoth |
| 18:55.08 | bryanw | ~lart kergoth |
| 18:55.11 | bryanw | hahaha |
| 18:55.24 | bryanw | nothing personal kergoth, i just wanted to see what it would say |
| 18:57.11 | sorphin | ~bitchslap bryanw |
| 18:57.14 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of bryanw |
| 18:58.28 | bryanw | ~bitchslap sorphin |
| 18:58.31 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of sorphin |
| 18:58.35 | bryanw | hmm.. |
| 18:58.38 | bryanw | ~lart sorphin |
| 18:58.43 | bryanw | those are much more fun |
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| 20:14.08 | kergoth | ibot: wb |
| 20:14.09 | | It's great to be back! |
| 20:17.25 | TimRiker | kergoth: another blootbot bug fixed... ;-) |
| 20:17.32 | kergoth | ah, nice |
| 20:18.37 | TimRiker | "kernel" command would crash blootbot. works now. it private messages many current linux kernel versions. |
| 20:19.10 | kergoth | ibot: kernel |
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| 21:58.39 | mallum | ibot: kernel |
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| 22:41.20 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: konq head ... |
| 22:41.21 | CosmicPenguin | Wouldn't be the first time, and it sure won't be the last |
| 22:43.58 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I just send it to the konqueror developers |
| 23:24.28 | kergoth | mallum: ping |
| 23:29.04 | mallum | kergoth: heya |
| 23:29.16 | kergoth | mallum: wondering what issues you ran into with tslib operation with X |
| 23:29.51 | kergoth | mallum: starting work on libtscal, a pluginable/modular calibration interface for tslib, so you can easily select and drop in alterate calibration algos, or modules that use calib data (e.g. setup of constants for filters to use later on) |
| 23:30.41 | jacques | kergoth: can tslib handle nonlinear calibrations? |
| 23:30.52 | kergoth | jacques: the existing calibration algorithm cannot |
| 23:31.03 | kergoth | most algos cant. there are ways of dealing with nonlinearity, however |
| 23:31.22 | kergoth | having a central interface means we can share that across whatever UI, which is a Good Thing |
| 23:31.23 | jacques | yeah that's what I recall, but I can't remember if linearity was assumed in tslib proper |
| 23:31.44 | kergoth | qte's calibrator is linear, X's calibrator is linear, tslib's calibrator is linear |
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