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14:28.53chouimatmorning
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15:17.44chouimathi jnork sorphin sieve prpplague  CosmicPenguin
15:17.52sorphinman, it's like the arrivals at an awards show
15:18.16CosmicPenguinJoan RIvers?
15:18.17CosmicPenguinIs that you?
15:18.40sorphinCosmicPenguin: she'd be criticizing whatever you're wearing
15:19.10prpplaguesjhill: dude, you might want to explain to your PR people that spamming also applies to forums and boards
15:19.27sorphinuh oh
15:20.42CosmicPenguinsorphin: good think I'm naked then... :)
15:21.05jnorkhello
15:21.29jnorkheh
15:21.36jnorkGood thing I'm not naked
15:21.44jnorkyou'd be digging your eyes out with a spoon
15:22.10chouimatCosmicPenguin: nothing like playing with a soldering iron when you're naked ....
15:22.58sorphinchouimat: umm....
15:23.03CosmicPenguinchouimat: Its sort of a long standing rule of mine not to play with things that can burn me when I am nude
15:23.12CosmicPenguinBut whatever gets you through the day
15:23.17chouimathehe
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15:24.33chouimatsorphin: look can i have a goat instead of celine that would be humane :)
15:25.20sorphinchouimat: i wasn't being humane, i was torturing you for that soldering iron comment, it's bad enough CP can't bother to put clothes on (think of the children :P )
15:26.06chouimatsorphin: there laws against torture but it seems that they are useless ... celine can sing
15:26.35CosmicPenguinSo can Wayne Newton, but you don't want to be exposed to it for very long
15:26.35sorphinchouimat: and procreate
15:31.23CosmicPenguinWhere did the plague go all quickly like?
15:31.40sjhillto hurl
15:31.53sjhillso, who has a eprom burner?
15:32.57sorphinCosmicPenguin: prolly smelled himself and went to get some beano :P
15:33.09sorphinsjhill: why?
15:33.18sjhilli need to be able to read and write a 40-pin 27C4001 EPROM
15:33.57chouimattime for the laundry
15:35.24sjhillit's the EPROM present in SGI Indy so i can upgrade the firmware
15:36.55sorphinahhh
15:37.04sorphinsjhill: now i gotcha :P
15:37.20sorphinsjhill: i think either TomW or GPSFan might be able to accomodate
15:38.10sorphinsjhill: and tomw's close to you distance wise (well, closer than the rest of us)
15:38.24sjhillyeah, i'll wait for him
15:38.44sjhillideally i'd like a programmer that i can hook up and use under linux...not much on google though
15:39.17sorphinnod
15:39.49sorphinhad to domy PIC crap under doze
15:41.21sorphindo my even
15:42.06sorphinsjhill: i think i either have the most current firmware on my I2 or didn't need to pull the eprom to upgrade it (or else didn't pay attention)
15:42.08sorphinone of the 3
15:42.56sjhillmy r5000 indy has not problem with tftp, my older r4400 one does
15:43.11sorphinsjhill: hmm
15:43.17sjhilli tried all the 'tricks' and crap from people's pages, and nothing works
15:43.24sorphinsjhill: my I2 is a 4400/200
15:43.37sjhilli ran into the same thing with one or two of my indigo's
15:43.55sorphinsjhill: it's just selective?
15:44.01sjhill?
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15:44.16sorphinyou said 1 or 2 of your indigos
15:44.22sorphinvs all of them
15:44.26sorphinTimRiker: morning timmy
15:44.27sjhillTimRiker: hi Timee
15:44.57sorphinsjhill: surprised you didn't call him timothy :P
15:45.01sjhilloh, it has to do with firmware version
15:45.16sjhillsorphin: notice he isn't answering to any of them :)
15:45.18sjhillTimRiker: hi Tim
15:46.10sorphinsjhill: timmy is mr meetings at TI, so his attention span varies ;)
15:48.49sorphinsjhill: so how much SGI gear you still got?
15:50.18CosmicPenguinsjhill: seriously - indigos don't grow on trees
15:51.25chouimatarrrrgggg morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:53.37CosmicPenguinmmm... satin
15:55.08sorphinCosmicPenguin: you are definately not hugh :P
15:55.27sorphinCosmicPenguin: btw your freudian slip is showing
15:55.37sorphinCosmicPenguin: ð CosmicPenguin/#elinux feels like Huge Heffner
15:55.41sorphinHuge Heffner?
15:55.47sorphini won't ask how you know that
15:58.03chouimatsorphin: just got the other for 50 firewalls but I need to remove every bit of GPL code in it  and he doesn't want to use any gpl tools to make them ...
15:58.12chouimats/other/order
15:59.33CosmicPenguinDOh
16:00.17sorphinCosmicPenguin: looking, maybe
16:00.35sorphinchouimat: how.. quaint
16:00.54sorphinchouimat: why don't they just go sacrafice an animal to Darl :P
16:01.06chouimatsorphin: and I have 2 weeks to fix the situation
16:01.27sorphinchouimat: very large ClueBat(tm)
16:01.32chouimatsorphin: 50 000cad
16:01.40CosmicPenguinchouimat: thats a good gig
16:01.53chouimatCosmicPenguin: but I won't take it
16:02.25CosmicPenguinwhy not?
16:02.49chouimatCosmicPenguin: because if I remove all gpl code I will just have the BSD kernel left
16:03.13CosmicPenguinyour point being?
16:03.23CosmicPenguinThere are plenty of good BSD utilities out there
16:03.42chouimatCosmicPenguin:  2weeks to rewrite what It took me 3 years of R&D?
16:05.38chouimatanyway I have boring works todo
16:06.08CosmicPenguinchouimat: just do it
16:06.53sorphinCosmicPenguin: this isn't Nike
16:07.10CosmicPenguinsorphin: thats funny, aren't you Lebron James?
16:07.37chouimatCosmicPenguin: bah I'm currently deep into working into the next gen so ...
16:10.38CosmicPenguinchouimat: too bad
16:29.34sjhillsorphin: i have (5) Indigo, (1) I2, (4) Indy, (1) O2
16:31.41chouimatCosmicPenguin: will see I need to send some paper works and I will know the answer in february (the 2 weeks is for the paper ... need to take more times when I read my emails)
16:35.56sorphinsjhill: only got my I2, and wish i oculd do something w/ it
16:36.10sorphinCosmicPenguin: but unless i build a syncongreen adapter
16:36.14sorphingrr
16:36.26sorphinsjhill: but unless i build a syncongreen adapter
16:36.33sorphinor get a Sun/SGI Monitor
16:36.46sorphinit's kinda a waste
16:36.51sorphinkinda like my ultrasparcs
16:36.59chouimatsorphin: any schematic for a syncongreen adapter?
16:37.21sorphinchouimat: yeah, found on the other day
16:37.27sorphintanks to xbox linux
16:37.30sorphinthanks even
16:37.49chouimatsorphin: url?
16:40.03chouimatok found it
16:40.12sorphinyeah, on the howtovga page
16:41.38sorphinneed a sync splitter for my sparc stuff too
16:41.49sorphinsince Sun uses Composite Sync (except on my ultra5)
16:42.40chouimatsorphin: if I can find how to add a hdd I may get a ps2
16:42.44sjhillsorphin: nah, but the 13w3->vga adapter, they're only like $20 now
16:42.53sorphinsjhill: i have one
16:43.06sjhillsorphin: and you're I2 doesn't work?
16:43.11sorphinsjhill: but it doesn't do any good if you don't have a monitor that can handle Sync On Green
16:43.34sjhillummm, i plug into normal sony multisync's with no problem
16:43.40sorphinwell duh
16:43.46sorphinthat's because Sony MultiSyncs
16:43.49sorphincan do sync on green
16:43.52sorphin:)
16:44.04sorphinSGI/Sun monitors
16:44.13sorphinARE sony multisync monitors, steve ;)
16:44.22sjhilldoh
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16:44.39sorphinsjhill: learn somethin new every day huh?
16:44.44sorphinRuss: morning mr dill
16:44.54sjhillyep
16:45.19sorphinsjhill: my old 21" NeXT monitor woulda worked
16:45.21sorphinif i still had it
16:45.26sorphinman that thing was sweet
16:45.45sorphinbut when i'd left AT&T
16:45.51sorphinit was either get my last pay check
16:45.53MornWorkmy SGI monitor is a Sony
16:45.55sorphinor keep the NextStation
16:45.59sorphinMornWork: right
16:46.11MornWorkit's getting old though
16:46.15MornWorktakes forever to turn on
16:46.19MornWorkI need a new 21"
16:46.21sorphinonly multisync monitors can do .o.g.
16:46.29sorphins.o.g even
16:46.34MornWorks.o.g?
16:46.39sorphinsync on green
16:46.47sorphinaka composite sync
16:47.07sorphinfancy way of taking the sync signal
16:47.07MornWorkah
16:47.08MornWorkok
16:47.15sorphinand embedding it on the green signal line
16:47.23sorphinso you require less wires
16:47.36MornWorkthe SGI monitor has 2 cable inputs
16:47.38sorphinchouimat: it's it multisync?
16:47.45MornWorkone for a normal VGA and one for the SGI connector
16:47.47sorphinMornWork: 13W3 and BNC ?
16:47.49sorphinah
16:47.53sorphinyup
16:47.58sorphinthat's a multisync
16:48.10MornWorkthe 13W3 is the funky looking one
16:48.13chouimatsorphin: ?
16:48.14MornWorkI got the monitor for free
16:48.18MornWorkso I can't complain
16:48.19sorphinmy monitor can handle the frequencies of a sparc just gine
16:48.25sorphinfine
16:48.30sorphinjust not the sync
16:48.39sorphinMornWork: yup
16:48.48MornWorkthe SGI will do 2048x1536 just fine
16:48.59MornWorkbut I can't figure out how to make linux do that resolution
16:50.53chouimatsorphin: I do I find if it's a multisync?
16:52.30sorphinchouimat: should say somewhere on it, or else you should be able to judge by how versatile it is frequency wise
16:53.01CosmicPenguinchouimat: that little book of paper that came with the monitor - its calleda  manual
16:53.03chouimatsorphin: hor: 30-97 Vertical: 50-160
16:53.10chouimatCosmicPenguin: lost it
16:53.47sorphinchouimat: easiest way to tell
16:53.51CosmicPenguinchouimat: continuing the sarcasm train, see that logo on the back of hte monitor?  Its calld a part number
16:53.51sorphinfind an SGI or Sun box
16:53.54sorphinand plug in ;)
16:54.36sorphinif you get a picture
16:54.41sorphinyou got a decent monitor ;)
16:55.10chouimathehe
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17:03.38sorphinmallum: evening gov
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17:11.35sorphinwell, the 800lbs gorilla is finally doing something
17:11.48chouimat?
17:12.16sorphinchouimat: IBM subpoenas SCO peoples
17:12.27chouimatok
17:12.42CosmicPenguinUh...duh?
17:16.58CosmicPenguinI already have the pixilvirus
17:17.00CosmicPenguinTherre is no cure
17:17.08CosmicPenguinMust... inject... code....
17:18.30sorphin;)
17:18.42CosmicPenguinchouimat: so, what did you think about 24 last night?
17:20.02chouimatCosmicPenguin: not bad ... but I saw the drugs thing comming
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20:11.02sorphinandersee: good afternoon mr andersen ;)
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20:17.56anderseesorphin: howdy
20:33.03sorphinandersee: hows things?
20:33.22anderseesorphin: not bad.  Very very busy though
20:36.06sorphinandersee: well, depending on how, that could be a good or bad thing
20:38.21anderseesorphin: some of both I suppose
20:38.22andersee:-)
21:25.32Russ~quote scox
21:25.47Russit would figure that would bring the price up
21:27.26sorphinRuss: eh?
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21:31.52Russthe subpoenaed a bunch of linux folk
21:40.04sorphinheh
21:40.07sorphindidn't know about that
21:40.21sorphinonly knew IBM subpoenaed SCO investors, etc
21:40.32sjhillRuss: where is that info at?
21:41.16sjhilli saw the ibm subpoena, where's the info about the Linux people being bothered?
21:41.20sjhillor is that a joke?
21:47.06CosmicPenguinThats not surprising that they did that
21:47.17CosmicPenguinWhy is everyone going nuts about it?
21:48.32chouimatlawyers scum of human race
21:48.53CosmicPenguinThey're supposed to subpoena those gusy
21:49.32CosmicPenguinIn fact, if they didn't, then IBM is the least of their problems
21:49.34chouimatCosmicPenguin: it's SCO that supoena Stallman, Torvald
21:49.43CosmicPenguinEactly
21:49.54CosmicPenguinThats called due processs
21:50.11Russ#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
21:50.11Russ#error SMP not supported
21:50.11Russ#endif
21:50.13CosmicPenguinThis crap has been going on for so long, people are having trouble distinguishing the BS from the other stuff
21:50.19chouimatMicrosoft Proclaims Death of Free Software Model
21:50.24Russholy crap dude, thats pretty incriminating right there
21:50.31kergothRuss: hah
21:50.33RussIBM was supposed to keep stuff like that a secret
21:51.02Russsco infringement generator: grep smp -ri /usr/src/linux
21:52.16sorphinheh
21:53.43Russand grep jfs -ri /usr/src/linux
21:53.44CosmicPenguinYou know, I bet this all would go away if people stopped showing up at their press confrences
21:54.08CosmicPenguinsorphin: I'm serious.  The open source community has to quit playing the victim
21:55.26sorphinCosmicPenguin: this would all go away if people would quit buying SCO stock too :P
21:55.55CosmicPenguinsorphin: well, there is money to be made
21:59.12sorphinCosmicPenguin: and we all know, it's all about money :P
21:59.24sorphinwhich is why, you couldn't pay me enough to work in redmond :P
22:00.08CosmicPenguinsorphin: if you were an outsider to the computer industry, would you have bought SCO stock wihen the IBM lawsuit was announced?
22:00.43sorphinCosmicPenguin: i wouldn't buy any stock at this point (see my savvis stock for why :P )
22:00.54kergothheh, he didnt say at this point
22:01.05CosmicPenguinsorphin: if you were in the stock trading biz I bet you would have
22:02.58sorphin~whaleslap kergoth for being a digi investor
22:03.01ACTION slaps kergoth for being a digi investor upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh
22:03.08kergothhey, i dont own any digi stock
22:03.20sorphinuh huh ;)
22:03.25kergothused to have some options that wouldve been a loss
22:03.27kergothbut thats it
22:03.27kergothheh
22:03.33sorphinCosmicPenguin: i'd never be in the stock trading biz
22:03.41sorphinCosmicPenguin: too volitile
22:05.15sorphinas owning 200 shares in savvis has taught me
22:14.05CosmicPenguinsorphin: the only stock market I play is the Hollywood STock Exchange
22:14.23sorphinCosmicPenguin: eh?
22:14.28CosmicPenguinwww.hsx.com
22:15.21sorphinah
22:15.48chouimatCosmicPenguin: wow
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23:19.01Russoohh...neato
23:19.19Russ'blob> reboot' doesn't work, but 'blob> boot' reboots
23:19.35kergothfun
23:19.58Russmmuless procs are afu
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