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| 05:08.52 | chouimat | night |
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| 06:21.27 | sorphin | evening timmy, erik |
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| 09:35.43 | jbot | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of timriker) |
| 10:07.03 | Russ | ibot: jbot? |
| 10:07.04 | | extra, extra, read all about it, jbot is another blootbot like ibot that does not log to disk, or shares the same sql database as ibot so botmail/factoids/etc are shared |
| 10:07.05 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, jbot is another blootbot like ibot that does not log to disk, or shares the same sql database as ibot so botmail/factoids/etc are shared |
| 10:07.19 | Russ | "<ibot> Someone already said that 1 seconds ago" |
| 10:07.34 | Russ | jbot: ibot? |
| 10:07.55 | Russ | ~lart sco |
| 10:08.03 | Russ | "<ibot> Someone already said that 0 seconds ago" |
| 10:08.07 | Russ | houston, we have a problem |
| 10:08.47 | Russ | ~part #elinux |
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| 14:35.42 | sorphin | mallum: lo mate |
| 14:35.57 | mallum | sorphin: hey |
| 14:40.13 | sorphin | mallum: howsit? |
| 14:40.34 | mallum | sorphin: okey okey |
| 14:40.41 | mallum | sorphin: where do you work ? |
| 14:43.04 | sorphin | mallum: *shudder* MCI |
| 14:43.58 | mallum | who are MCI ? like MC Hammer ? |
| 14:45.35 | sorphin | mallum: formerly known as Worldcom and/or MCIWorldcom |
| 14:45.46 | mallum | sorphin: oh yes |
| 14:45.48 | sorphin | mallum: owners of Pipex, UUNet, etc |
| 14:50.14 | sjhill | i still have my uunet baseball cap...one of my favorites |
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| 15:18.52 | sorphin | sjhill: then the question becomes, why do you even have it? |
| 15:25.46 | sjhill | sorphin: i used to be part owner of an isp and uunet was one of our two backbone providers |
| 15:26.46 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Nov/11192003/business/112207.asp |
| 15:27.06 | CosmicPenguin | Given enough rope, open sourcers will hang them selves every single time, won't they? |
| 15:27.22 | sorphin | sjhill: ah |
| 15:27.49 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ROTFL bodyguards |
| 15:27.57 | sorphin | someone needs to take a hit out on old Darl |
| 15:32.22 | sorphin | oh.. wait.. he already thinks someone has :P |
| 15:33.55 | prpplague | sorphin: yea what a joke |
| 15:34.29 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not sure if its true, but if it is its the dumbest thing the community could have done |
| 15:34.49 | CosmicPenguin | It just makes us look guilty, and it makes it look like SCO is on to something |
| 15:36.48 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i highly doubt it's true |
| 15:36.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats that quote from animatrix iirc "there is some of the truth in your fiction, and some fiction in the truth" |
| 15:37.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: probably someone called to register their complaints and said something like "if i weren't a reasonable person, i'd want someone to kick your ass" |
| 15:38.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lies sell more papers |
| 15:38.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: true or not, this is going to hit the main wires here shortly |
| 15:39.09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: and furtermore, I wouldn't doubt that some 13 year old l33t script kiddie thought it would make him look like a big man or something |
| 15:39.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: true on all accounts |
| 15:44.33 | sjhill | $!@#%$#& |
| 15:44.47 | sjhill | stupid bootloader |
| 15:44.57 | sjhill | they're not zero terminating the string |
| 15:45.01 | sjhill | and i can't change it |
| 15:45.01 | sjhill | and i can't change it |
| 15:45.03 | sjhill | crap! |
| 15:45.08 | CosmicPenguin | Bah - zero termination is overrated |
| 15:45.23 | sjhill | Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 2 console=ttySC0,57600a..U.Taa.aUUaUa.Q..U.U |
| 15:45.29 | sjhill | UUaUa.Q.QUaQa.UaU.aQaaU.U.UaaE.UUaUa .?QU.Ua |
| 15:45.34 | sjhill | my butt |
| 15:46.00 | CosmicPenguin | thats hilarious |
| 15:47.34 | CosmicPenguin | Andy Serkis, the guy behind Gollum will also act out King Kong in Peter Jackson's next movie |
| 15:47.40 | prpplague | sjhill: heh |
| 15:51.47 | sjhill | it's from a Japanese company...it's probably kanji for crying out loud |
| 15:59.47 | CosmicPenguin | unicode in the bootloader? Get out of town |
| 15:59.55 | sjhill | i'm kidding :) |
| 15:59.56 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:59.56 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:02.18 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: watched 24 yesterday? |
| 16:02.50 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: yep |
| 16:02.54 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: it wasn't the best of episodes |
| 16:03.03 | chouimat | yup |
| 16:03.03 | chouimat | yup |
| 16:03.10 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: but they have slow ones every once in a while just to set up the next few shows |
| 16:03.25 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: exactly ... |
| 16:03.48 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: that freeky secretary of Jack's is going to get popped by that traitor |
| 16:04.10 | CosmicPenguin | I don't like her at all |
| 16:04.16 | chouimat | too bad for her or for him |
| 16:28.32 | sorphin | oh goodie |
| 16:28.50 | chouimat | ? |
| 16:28.59 | sorphin | just found out a saturday i'm gonna have to be at work (facilites power outage for 8 hours) |
| 16:29.41 | chouimat | sorphin: ok ... I'm just trying to understand why every 21 hours my dns daemon die |
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| 16:31.21 | sorphin | chouimat: they're canadian :P try singing oh canada ;) |
| 16:31.38 | CosmicPenguin | lol - all the DNS requests have "eh" somewhere in them |
| 16:31.41 | sorphin | TimRiker: allo timmy |
| 16:31.44 | CosmicPenguin | Give me the ip of www.google.com, eh |
| 16:31.51 | chouimat | sorphin: i think i need a strong coffee to understand this one |
| 16:31.57 | chouimat | hi tim |
| 16:32.08 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: Name: www.google.akadns.net |
| 16:32.08 | sorphin | Address: 216.239.39.99 |
| 16:32.30 | sorphin | akadns |
| 16:32.33 | sorphin | strange |
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| 17:02.24 | sorphin | oh no, it's mr andersen and kergoth |
| 17:04.41 | andersee | sorphin: evening |
| 17:06.36 | CosmicPenguin | The overlords of the embedded planet have landed |
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| 17:41.26 | TomW | anyone play around with MythTV? |
| 17:43.53 | CosmicPenguin | I've heard of it |
| 17:43.57 | CosmicPenguin | But that doesn't help |
| 17:45.13 | TomW | ok, I've been intrigued by the whole idea of a PVR, but not really into a Tivo. The TV Tuner cards seem quite cheap now and I see that MythTV seems to have come along to the point that I'd like to give it a try. |
| 17:47.23 | chouimat | hi TomW |
| 17:57.45 | TomW | hi chouimat |
| 18:03.46 | prpplague | andersee: howdy |
| 18:03.57 | prpplague | andersee: whats the work on the linksys/cisco gpl issues? |
| 18:04.12 | prpplague | s/work/word |
| 18:04.58 | TomW | prpplague: hey, they boy is on holiday in Finland, now don't you go screwing up his brain with work stuff.. |
| 18:05.08 | TomW | s/they/the/ |
| 18:05.21 | sorphin | TomW: he's not on holiday |
| 18:05.25 | sorphin | he's there on biz |
| 18:05.41 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, right |
| 18:05.46 | chouimat | hi plague |
| 18:05.56 | andersee | prpplague: nothing much new really |
| 18:06.06 | TomW | andersee: you working over there, or making like your working? |
| 18:06.11 | andersee | prpplague: they are still talking to the FSF folks |
| 18:06.27 | andersee | TomW: heh |
| 18:06.31 | andersee | TomW: I'm working |
| 18:06.41 | andersee | TomW: here on business after all |
| 18:06.53 | sorphin | TomW: told ya |
| 18:06.57 | andersee | TomW: for a holiday, I'd pick a warmer time of year |
| 18:07.19 | TomW | heh |
| 18:07.34 | TomW | andersee: well, some people *do* like snow.. |
| 18:07.56 | andersee | TomW: snow is fine |
| 18:08.06 | andersee | TomW: dark and dismal is less so |
| 18:08.12 | TomW | andersee: yeah, but you cannot take the cold, right? |
| 18:08.52 | andersee | TomW: I can deal with it |
| 18:09.13 | andersee | TomW: just don't have to like it though |
| 18:09.20 | TomW | nod |
| 18:10.58 | sorphin | TomW: heh, doubtful |
| 18:11.04 | sorphin | TomW: now if it were analog cable |
| 18:11.08 | sorphin | TomW: yes, you can |
| 18:12.11 | prpplague | andersee: ahh, just wondering since i had not heard anything new lately |
| 18:12.15 | TomW | sorphin: what, see the analog, I thought so, but I wonder if the digital stuff is encoded. |
| 18:13.57 | sorphin | TomW: i dunno if all of it is, but atleast some is.. and it's mpeg2 streaming just like SAT |
| 18:14.51 | TomW | interesting, maybe I'll get a card and try it out. maybe ditch the TV set in favor of a computer + 20" LCD monitor? |
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| 18:17.12 | TomW | let's see: 2 Haupauge TV tuner cards, 120Gig drive, P-III cpu, maybe 512M SDRAM, nice LCD monitor... |
| 18:18.03 | TomW | then sell my 24" analog TV with the VCR.. |
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| 19:29.08 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:29.12 | sorphin | prpplague: see the thing on /.? |
| 19:29.31 | sorphin | an NDIS wrapper fore wireless cards (heh, they mention bcm minipci) |
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| 19:36.58 | sorphin | GPSFan: re |
| 19:37.24 | GPSFan | hi dan. |
| 19:37.35 | sorphin | GPSFan: ended up just getting a vox kit |
| 19:38.06 | prpplague | sorphin: whats up? |
| 19:38.08 | GPSFan | that'l probably work just fine |
| 19:38.49 | sorphin | GPSFan: no probably about it, it triggers fine at line lvl |
| 19:39.12 | GPSFan | hey prpplague: back to 802.11b. the Gemtek card you are thinking of useing, where did you see that it was raylink? |
| 19:39.14 | sorphin | prpplague: couple stories down on /., and NDIS wrapper for cards that don't have a linux driver or such |
| 19:39.20 | GPSFan | sorphin: swell! |
| 19:39.34 | sorphin | GPSFan: indeed |
| 19:39.40 | sorphin | GPSFan: lil ramsey kit |
| 19:40.05 | GPSFan | sorphin: you found it locally? |
| 19:40.18 | sorphin | GPSFan: aye, gateway electronics |
| 19:40.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: uh, because i have one in my hand....lol |
| 19:40.47 | prpplague | sorphin: oh, ya was reading that |
| 19:41.22 | GPSFan | prpplague: ah, I read through the raylink site and couldn't find anything about 802.11b, just 802.11 FH. |
| 19:41.58 | GPSFan | prpplague: so is there a raylink 802.11b version? |
| 19:42.01 | prpplague | GPSFan: i ordered one of every pci 802.11b card i could find for testing |
| 19:42.41 | Russ | too bad it'll leave non x86 users out in the cold |
| 19:42.44 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, the gemtek wl-360r |
| 19:43.02 | GPSFan | prpplague: cool, |
| 19:43.04 | prpplague | GPSFan: using the rt2460 chip |
| 19:43.11 | sorphin | Russ: heh |
| 19:43.22 | GPSFan | prpplague: rt=realtek? |
| 19:43.28 | sorphin | prolly |
| 19:45.23 | prpplague | GPSFan: naw, its a ralink chipset, no idea why they choose rt instead of ra |
| 19:45.27 | prpplague | mmmm - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6804055064.html |
| 19:45.35 | prpplague | just what i've been dreaming of |
| 19:46.08 | prpplague | i know most of you are guru's but is anyone else attending this - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6999372152.html |
| 19:46.20 | sorphin | prpplague: i thought you dreamt of cat tamales? |
| 19:46.46 | prpplague | sorphin: only once a week |
| 19:47.01 | prpplague | sorphin: more than that i get indigestion |
| 19:49.22 | GPSFan | prpplague: ah!! ralink not raylink. Raylink is an old 802.11FH 2mbps technology. |
| 19:49.46 | prpplague | GPSFan: oh sorry didn't realize what you had typed |
| 19:50.02 | GPSFan | prpplague: the Gemteh is also sold as Sparklan... http://www.sparklan.com/wl360r.htm |
| 19:51.02 | GPSFan | prpplague: I guess it was yesterday when I though you said it was raylink, thys the comments on Raytheon... |
| 19:51.23 | prpplague | ahh |
| 19:51.59 | GPSFan | prp do you have the fcc id on that card, maybe the fcc site has some useful info. |
| 19:52.18 | prpplague | one sec |
| 19:52.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: try 109-501-5800 |
| 19:53.13 | prpplague | GPSFan: hmm that can't be right |
| 19:53.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: i think that must be bogus |
| 19:53.38 | GPSFan | prpplague: needs to be s few letters then numbers |
| 19:53.59 | prpplague | GPSFan: yea, i was thinking that didn't look right |
| 19:54.18 | prpplague | GPSFan: thats whats with the fccid block |
| 19:54.42 | prpplague | that sparklan is identical, but no drivers listed |
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| 19:55.56 | sorphin | morn :allo jules |
| 20:12.27 | GPSFan | prpplague: found Gemtek on the FCC database, but their server seems to be broken (still) and I cant access the individual devices details. |
| 20:18.26 | prpplague | GPSFan: fun |
| 20:24.22 | Russ | ~quote scox |
| 20:29.42 | sorphin | ~quote svvs |
| 20:29.57 | sorphin | ack, it hit 1.68 |
| 20:30.02 | sorphin | man i need to get a sell order in |
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| 21:06.08 | Russ | I don't think using ibot for trading purposes is wise... |
| 21:10.10 | sorphin | it's the same as yahoo info, etc shows atm |
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| 21:24.30 | chouimat | http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Nov/11192003/business/112207.asp |
| 21:44.15 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I was off for a couple of hours |
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| 22:20.02 | Russ | otuAtoob (%i seconds) inorp serAooboba tetroepyTeh" "plg ota tesil fo tmoc dnambolb |
| 22:20.47 | CosmicPenguin | I see |
| 22:21.30 | Russ | its a game, decode it! |
| 22:21.40 | Russ | I'm at a bolb prompt right now |
| 22:27.14 | Russ | I think I accidentally set the pig latin bit on my processor |
| 22:30.31 | chouimat | Russ: ? |
| 22:30.47 | Russ | otuAtoob is Autoboot |
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| 22:30.56 | Russ | bolb is a blob promtp |
| 22:31.13 | Russ | reset on my processor isn't quite working, those are the messages I got after a reboot |
| 22:31.30 | Russ | I also like the copyright message |
| 22:31.31 | Russ | !doCs1267b3bryp thg )C(9991002 02 02 10 2003002naJ reD-aB kerkandkEri Mo bolbme.slomeMm yr |
| 22:33.40 | CosmicPenguin | Endian much? |
| 22:33.44 | Russ | hehe |
| 22:33.54 | Russ | how the hell is it excecuting code in the first place is my question |
| 22:34.07 | CosmicPenguin | Thats an excellent question |
| 22:34.36 | CosmicPenguin | Unless the bootloader code thinks its in big endian mode, so the string ops run backwards or something |
| 22:34.47 | CosmicPenguin | but the compiler still compiies it in the right direction |
| 22:34.52 | chouimat | Russ: maybe the code is ok but you have video memory corruption |
| 22:34.57 | Russ | no, its just really screwed up |
| 22:35.09 | Russ | the processor doesn't have reset functionallity |
| 22:35.20 | CosmicPenguin | Its kindof cool though |
| 22:35.38 | levi | CosmicPenguin: So, after you mentioned using fvwm, I figured I'd check out its homepage to see what it looked like these days. |
| 22:35.39 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: new encrypted prompt :) |
| 22:35.40 | Russ | ya, I can hit enter at the bolb prompt, but commands don't do anything |
| 22:35.56 | CosmicPenguin | levi: the key is fvwm-themes |
| 22:36.33 | levi | CosmicPenguin: And, judging from the screenshots, that much configurability is a dangerous thing. People with no aesthetic sense should not be allowed to use fvwm, or at least post screenshots of their messes. |
| 22:36.46 | CosmicPenguin | levi: no doubt |
| 22:36.50 | CosmicPenguin | levi: I use //fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:36.59 | CosmicPenguin | fvwm-themes makes life a little easier |
| 22:37.04 | levi | I felt like clawing my eyeballs out a couple times. |
| 22:37.12 | CosmicPenguin | If for no other reason then you can steal decent configurations from other people |
| 22:40.19 | marklwrk | wm2 is the best window manager, come on |
| 22:41.20 | levi | Ow, that attempt at an OS X theme is painful. |
| 22:41.36 | CosmicPenguin | levi: the redmondxp is surprisingly nice |
| 22:42.17 | levi | Yeah, that one looked okay, but it's a clone of XP, which I'm not terribly fond of. |
| 22:44.19 | CosmicPenguin | levi: I'm working on my own right now |
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