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| 01:19.15 | ShadowRage | will busybox compile on PPC? |
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| 02:05.40 | chouimat | night |
| 02:28.52 | fishhead | later |
| 02:28.55 | fishhead | CANUCK |
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| 03:09.44 | ShadowRage | will busybox compile on PPC? |
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| 04:41.46 | fishhead | hey |
| 04:41.58 | fishhead | any reaso the webpal can't run off a 5 volt line from a switching power supply |
| 04:42.04 | fishhead | if I bypass the onboard reg |
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| 05:09.03 | ShadowRage | will busybox compile on PPC? |
| 05:11.25 | kergoth | heh, if nobody's around with the answer, why not try it? |
| 05:11.39 | fishhead | shadowrage I wish I knew the answer |
| 05:11.44 | fishhead | have you tried googling |
| 05:11.49 | fishhead | PPC is nice |
| 05:11.54 | fishhead | its not the great cpu they said it would be |
| 05:11.58 | fishhead | risc has many limits |
| 05:12.04 | fishhead | but PPC kicks ass for embedded |
| 05:12.29 | ShadowRage | and it's decent for multimedia |
| 05:13.10 | fishhead | ppc is able to do a lot of software signall processing |
| 05:13.19 | fishhead | so it's used in a lot of telco equipement |
| 05:50.20 | sorphin | ~fishslap fishhead |
| 05:50.28 | | ACTION slaps fishhead up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 05:50.28 | fishhead | hey |
| 05:50.38 | fishhead | btw milk of magnesia kicks ass |
| 05:50.47 | sorphin | kaopectate :P |
| 05:50.52 | fishhead | thank yuo god for living me the runs |
| 05:51.02 | fishhead | giving even |
| 05:51.15 | fishhead | I suffered another blocked bowel last night |
| 05:51.17 | fishhead | hell on earth |
| 05:51.18 | fishhead | :( |
| 05:51.25 | sorphin | tmi |
| 05:51.38 | fishhead | sorry |
| 05:52.05 | sorphin | fishhead: btw.. enough w/ the "canuck" :P |
| 05:52.15 | fishhead | okay |
| 05:52.20 | fishhead | going to take a while for it to set in |
| 05:52.22 | fishhead | so jyst remind me |
| 05:52.27 | fishhead | till I develope a habit |
| 05:52.31 | fishhead | but I will try to rebemeber |
| 05:52.38 | sorphin | don't worry, ever time you do, i'll kick you ;) |
| 05:52.46 | fishhead | ok |
| 05:53.05 | fishhead | I might try to solder up the serial port on my webpal soon or might pay someone to do it |
| 05:54.26 | sorphin | fishhead: it's not that bad |
| 05:54.36 | sorphin | just flux the holes and drown it |
| 05:54.50 | fishhead | I am scared of offing a nearby chip |
| 05:54.53 | sorphin | gpsfan actually made a better serial adapter than i'd made for mine |
| 05:55.04 | fishhead | well I am not spending $20 |
| 05:55.07 | fishhead | I can make my own nbp |
| 05:55.14 | fishhead | it's the webpal end that scares me |
| 05:55.18 | sorphin | fishhead: i didn't spend $20 ;) |
| 05:55.56 | sorphin | i sampled the chips |
| 05:56.21 | fishhead | no dude I mean for a premade |
| 05:56.24 | fishhead | board with the chip |
| 05:56.30 | fishhead | someone was selling them |
| 05:56.37 | fishhead | even me buying a rs232 is cheap |
| 05:56.43 | fishhead | I will probaby get a 236 or 234 |
| 05:56.48 | fishhead | whichone the one is with built in caps |
| 05:56.51 | sorphin | i sampled the chip and he sent me the chip |
| 05:57.02 | sorphin | you mean the smt or regular? |
| 05:57.39 | sorphin | regular is the 233A |
| 05:58.47 | sorphin | smt is 225 |
| 05:59.11 | kergoth | hey dan, how goes? |
| 05:59.26 | sorphin | aloo chrissy |
| 05:59.34 | sorphin | goes alright, you? |
| 05:59.54 | kergoth | bored as hell, organizing mp3s and reading linux keyboard handling code |
| 05:59.56 | kergoth | you? |
| 06:00.03 | kergoth | s/you?// |
| 06:00.06 | kergoth | force of habit |
| 06:00.07 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:01.15 | sorphin | kergoth: have turkey at timmy's house? ;) |
| 06:01.24 | sorphin | or cat tamales at daves ;) |
| 06:01.27 | kergoth | heh, naw |
| 06:01.40 | kergoth | sat around the house, cursing daytime tv |
| 06:01.54 | sorphin | ahh |
| 06:03.16 | kergoth | sorphin: you see the oz 3.3.5 testing release went out? |
| 06:03.33 | sorphin | nope |
| 06:03.39 | sorphin | been otherwise occupied |
| 06:03.46 | kergoth | heh, likewise |
| 06:03.56 | sorphin | where's the notes? |
| 06:05.44 | kergoth | arent many, really. it includes opie 1.0.3 and sharp's 2.4.18 |
| 06:06.04 | kergoth | opie has the qtopia 1.7 launcher with 'quicklaunch' (apps as shared libs, greatly reduces load time) |
| 06:06.14 | sorphin | nod |
| 06:06.39 | kergoth | god qte sources are ugly as sin |
| 06:06.46 | kergoth | trolltech must be obsessed with ifdefs |
| 06:07.24 | sorphin | man |
| 06:07.31 | sorphin | this is the 1st time my Z has been 'alive' in ages |
| 06:07.56 | kergoth | i havent turned on any in the past 2 months, and that was just to poke around the c750 |
| 06:08.01 | kergoth | just collecting dust |
| 06:08.23 | sorphin | ah yeah 3.2 |
| 06:08.32 | fishhead | give it to me then |
| 06:08.59 | kergoth | heh, i'll need them, just not now |
| 06:09.05 | sorphin | fishhead: they aren't really his to give that way |
| 06:09.15 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:09.16 | fishhead | I know |
| 06:09.23 | fishhead | I was teasing him because it was collecting dust |
| 06:09.27 | kergoth | dynamism asked for the c700 back like 4 months gao |
| 06:09.33 | fishhead | ya know I got a $250 check from staples |
| 06:09.38 | kergoth | but i keep forgetting to run up and mail the damn thing |
| 06:09.42 | fishhead | to replace my dead IIIxe |
| 06:09.49 | fishhead | I was going to go with a palm tungston t2 |
| 06:09.54 | sorphin | kergoth: obviously they dno't want it *too* bad ;) |
| 06:10.00 | fishhead | but I am almost looking at a winCE pda and throw linux on it |
| 06:10.02 | kergoth | heh, yeah |
| 06:10.05 | sorphin | else they'd be sending you a prepaid :P |
| 06:10.07 | kergoth | well, they didnt make me sign anything |
| 06:10.11 | fishhead | but I a sacred of linux not working out |
| 06:10.11 | kergoth | so what are they gonna do? |
| 06:10.23 | fishhead | kergoth sned it back |
| 06:10.27 | fishhead | be nice |
| 06:10.35 | kergoth | i will, when i get around to it |
| 06:10.55 | fishhead | I saw something beautiful on monster garage |
| 06:10.56 | kergoth | i have like 5 things to mail to various places, just need to get up to a mail boxes etc or something |
| 06:10.59 | fishhead | have you ever seen the show |
| 06:11.07 | kergoth | i love that show |
| 06:11.10 | sorphin | kergoth: doesn't exist |
| 06:11.16 | fishhead | dude did you see the one with the skate ramp |
| 06:11.21 | kergoth | nope |
| 06:11.23 | sorphin | kergoth: they're the "UPS Store" now |
| 06:11.27 | fishhead | dude |
| 06:11.34 | kergoth | sorphin: right, yeah, that |
| 06:11.36 | fishhead | I was in tears almost it was such justice |
| 06:11.48 | kergoth | funny thing is, i have a ups store right next to starbucks |
| 06:11.48 | fishhead | kergoth you know how companes give them freebes |
| 06:11.50 | kergoth | where i'm at like 4 days a week |
| 06:11.51 | fishhead | cause it gets them advertisement on the show |
| 06:11.56 | kergoth | yeah |
| 06:11.58 | fishhead | and nothing wrong with that |
| 06:12.04 | fishhead | they should get publicity |
| 06:12.08 | kergoth | right |
| 06:12.09 | fishhead | well one of the assholes on the show |
| 06:12.16 | fishhead | who made skateboard ramps |
| 06:12.25 | fishhead | was pissed that a competitor donated a ramp for the dat |
| 06:12.32 | fishhead | so he spraypainted over their logo |
| 06:12.40 | fishhead | the producers took his head off |
| 06:12.41 | fishhead | and he left |
| 06:12.41 | kergoth | um, thats bullshit |
| 06:12.46 | fishhead | yes it was |
| 06:12.52 | fishhead | I wanted to wring his neck |
| 06:12.54 | fishhead | but listen |
| 06:12.59 | fishhead | this was the beautiful part |
| 06:13.02 | fishhead | after he left the show |
| 06:13.13 | fishhead | he came back with a paper for jesse to sign |
| 06:13.24 | fishhead | they charged his ass $200 for logo rework |
| 06:13.27 | fishhead | HAHAHAHA YES! |
| 06:13.43 | fishhead | it was beautiful |
| 06:13.58 | fishhead | guy acted like a 12 yr old and got what he deserved |
| 06:14.22 | fishhead | nice to see justice once in a while still :) |
| 06:14.39 | kergoth | lol |
| 06:14.40 | kergoth | nice |
| 06:14.45 | kergoth | poetic |
| 06:14.47 | fishhead | yeah it was beautiful |
| 06:14.48 | fishhead | yep |
| 06:15.00 | fishhead | oh yeah and jesse signed the paper with his welder |
| 06:15.08 | fishhead | I think to tell the asshole to pay it himself |
| 06:15.39 | fishhead | is the ipaq 3850 linux supported |
| 06:15.50 | fishhead | a have a friend who was really excited he could dump wice |
| 06:15.53 | fishhead | winCE |
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| 06:37.08 | Russ | "When it comes time to list the century's great orphaned ideas, the computerized checkbook will rank with the lava lamp." (1984) |
| 06:40.06 | Russ | (these are the list of computer software to avoid) |
| 06:41.36 | fishhead | heh |
| 06:42.21 | Russ | others that will never make it include the electronic calendar, the family budget spreadsheet, the computerized address book, house control, telecommuting and talking to other computers, phone line news services, speech synthesis, and electronic cookbook |
| 06:42.32 | Russ | http://www.atariarchives.org/deli/applications_to_avoid.php |
| 06:44.33 | fishhead | hahha |
| 06:45.15 | Russ | its funny that some of the most popular applicatios are combinations of those things |
| 06:47.34 | Russ | "to his right, a digitizing tablet that creates images on the screen when navigated Ouija-fashion by an elaborate rolling "mouse" controller" |
| 06:54.54 | fishhead | hey |
| 06:54.57 | fishhead | look at engine control |
| 06:55.04 | fishhead | I remeber when people cursed electronics |
| 06:55.11 | fishhead | early 80's and 90's they sucked as |
| 06:55.14 | fishhead | now look at them |
| 06:55.25 | fishhead | cars go 100,000 miles before a tuneuip |
| 06:57.08 | fishhead | and run so much more efficient |
| 06:57.29 | fishhead | btw I am so glad to see switching power supplies ending up in more and more products |
| 06:57.50 | fishhead | I hope linear die off for all but stuff that needs linear because of ripple intollerence |
| 06:58.50 | fishhead | like audio amps |
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| 07:56.21 | sorphin | fishhead: i won't run my car 100k w/o a tuneup :P that's as insane as 10k before an oil change (i don't care what they say about synthetic oil) |
| 07:58.52 | fishhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.59 | fishhead | obviously you change thay |
| 07:59.01 | fishhead | that |
| 07:59.55 | fishhead | no one told me the distributer has already gone the way of the diosaur |
| 08:00.38 | sorphin | coils on each cylinder |
| 08:01.50 | fishhead | yeah |
| 08:02.06 | fishhead | but this isn't just happening with engines |
| 08:02.11 | fishhead | generators, motors |
| 08:02.22 | fishhead | I seening more and more mechnical parts being replaced with elecvtronics |
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