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| 01:33.30 | fontenot | coool |
| 01:33.51 | fontenot | i just reassembled a tuxscreen I had lying around completely disassembled for two years |
| 01:33.55 | fontenot | and it still works |
| 01:54.09 | TomW | :) |
| 01:54.27 | TomW | fontenot: any plans for it? |
| 01:55.26 | fontenot | TomW, I haven't decided yet - it still has the original firmware |
| 01:55.34 | TomW | heh |
| 01:55.41 | fontenot | I'm just surptised I found all the parts |
| 01:55.49 | fontenot | and put them together in the right ways |
| 01:56.17 | TomW | I've finally got a few hours to myself (!), now I wonder if I should work at the new mythtv box, or just watch some tv ? |
| 01:58.35 | fontenot | TomW, how's it been going for you? |
| 01:58.54 | fontenot | I have some time now - or rather will at some point in the next couple of months |
| 01:59.08 | fontenot | I quit my job and am moving to Oregon |
| 01:59.19 | TomW | crazy! I've had some problems with my car the past 2 weeks and sunk $1,000 into fixing it + 2 new tires. |
| 01:59.35 | TomW | fontenot: going to move into a commune ? |
| 01:59.50 | fontenot | that sucks - but then I recently spent almost $700 on new tires and an alignment for my jeep |
| 01:59.53 | TomW | fontenot: ... go barefoot in the woods ? |
| 02:00.02 | fontenot | well more like $750 |
| 02:00.07 | TomW | nod |
| 02:00.07 | fontenot | i mean $650 |
| 02:00.47 | fontenot | TomW, no, trying to start an embedded linux business with zwelch and another guy |
| 02:01.28 | TomW | 1. ignition module thingy ($400), 2. catalytic convertor ($500), 3. two rear tires ($160), 4. Fuel filter ($20) |
| 02:02.20 | fontenot | ouch |
| 02:02.23 | TomW | fontenot: got any customers, or are you doing something like write some cool software and sell it? |
| 02:11.35 | sorphin | Tomw: http://www.captainrock.com/~dans/kspf/ |
| 02:11.51 | sorphin | taht's the inside of my kodak smart picture frame... tis a coldfire cpu |
| 02:18.15 | fontenot | sorphin, what is that? and how much do they go for? I recall the picture frames being way overpriced a few years ago |
| 02:19.47 | fontenot | TFT I presume? |
| 02:20.16 | TomW | sorphin: interesting looking board... |
| 02:20.35 | fontenot | sorphin, have any pics of the back of the display? manufacturer/model number? |
| 02:23.02 | TomW | sorphin: uClinux on that board then? |
| 02:25.50 | TomW | 4 MegBytes of RAM |
| 02:35.25 | sorphin | fontenot: paid 150, but compgeeks has them for 199 now |
| 02:35.30 | sorphin | they're refurbed but work |
| 02:36.03 | fontenot | interesting |
| 02:36.27 | sorphin | nothin wrong w/ refurb if it has a full year warranty |
| 02:37.28 | sorphin | as for pics of the back of the lcd |
| 02:37.28 | sorphin | no |
| 02:37.35 | sorphin | what you see is what i took |
| 02:37.45 | sorphin | that epson chip is the lcd controller tho |
| 02:37.56 | fontenot | i recently bought a refurbished laserprinter for $90 at Fry's - seems to work fine |
| 02:39.47 | sorphin | those 2 side metal bits on the CF slot aren't soldered to their pads, but not like it hurts anything |
| 02:42.03 | sorphin | fontenot: how's the miata? |
| 02:42.32 | fontenot | sorphin, fine - I need to change the oil this weekend tho |
| 02:43.12 | sorphin | had my 1st 'official' svc done monday |
| 02:43.20 | sorphin | dunno if i'll be using mini of stlouis anymore |
| 02:43.32 | kergoth | heh, whatd you have it in for? |
| 02:43.51 | sorphin | kergoth: oil/filter change, air filter change, etc.. |
| 02:43.52 | sorphin | it's free |
| 02:44.18 | sorphin | i may go to one of the dealers in Chicago area or the one in KC from now on tho |
| 02:44.38 | sorphin | the dealer here has NO weekend hours, and as far as mini svc is concerned, is mediocre |
| 02:44.46 | fontenot | :-\ |
| 02:44.47 | kergoth | ah that sucks |
| 02:44.49 | sorphin | kergoth: i didn't wait 10k miles to change my oil tho |
| 02:44.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:44.57 | fontenot | dealers here are scum |
| 02:44.58 | sorphin | i changed it myself earlier |
| 02:45.03 | sorphin | mobil 1 |
| 02:45.05 | sorphin | baybee |
| 02:45.10 | fontenot | yeah me too |
| 02:45.17 | fontenot | i use than in miata and jeep these days |
| 02:45.21 | fontenot | that |
| 02:45.25 | sorphin | they used castrol i think |
| 02:45.32 | kergoth | hmm, i need to wash my car. you wash yours manually or take it to a car wash? |
| 02:45.45 | sorphin | fontenot: my fiancee and her dad are jealous of me, cuz my touchup paint comes w/ clear coat :P |
| 02:45.57 | sorphin | kergoth: the best to do |
| 02:46.00 | sorphin | is wash by hand |
| 02:46.05 | sorphin | get Meguires |
| 02:46.06 | kergoth | figured |
| 02:46.10 | kergoth | meguires? |
| 02:47.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:47.10 | fontenot | it's a brand of cleaning products |
| 02:47.18 | sorphin | good cleaning products ;) |
| 02:47.20 | fontenot | popular with the miata show and shine crowd too |
| 02:47.37 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:47.40 | sorphin | fontenot: 'popular w/ people who give a shit about their cars' ;) |
| 02:47.51 | fontenot | heh |
| 02:48.05 | sorphin | fontenot: lemme guess, dish soap? :P |
| 02:48.06 | kergoth | where do i find said cleaning products? autozone or something? |
| 02:48.06 | fontenot | my miata is getting old and beat u pon the outside, and the jeep is well... a jeep |
| 02:48.24 | kergoth | heh, wont dish soap remove the wax job? |
| 02:48.40 | kergoth | ~yow |
| 02:48.54 | fontenot | used to use dish soap, but these days use some other not so expensive automotive soap |
| 02:49.07 | fontenot | but to be honest, my poor miata does not get washed often |
| 02:49.20 | kergoth | my front tires and rims get sooooo dirty |
| 02:49.22 | kergoth | fucking brake dust |
| 02:49.27 | kergoth | thinking i'll get dustless pads |
| 02:49.31 | sorphin | kergoth: innnnnnnnnnndeed |
| 02:49.39 | sorphin | kergoth: since mini = bmw |
| 02:49.45 | sorphin | german parts |
| 02:49.46 | kergoth | crossfire = benz |
| 02:49.47 | sorphin | hence |
| 02:49.52 | sorphin | organic pads |
| 02:49.53 | fontenot | i use greenstuff pads - almost no dust |
| 02:50.07 | sorphin | fontenot: get this shit |
| 02:50.11 | fontenot | EBC |
| 02:50.18 | sorphin | last night o nteh way home, my flat tire monitor light goes on |
| 02:50.24 | sorphin | so i hope into QT |
| 02:50.30 | sorphin | no probs |
| 02:50.32 | sorphin | get home |
| 02:50.37 | sorphin | pop out my gauge |
| 02:50.44 | sorphin | fuck, i know why now it did that |
| 02:50.58 | sorphin | fucking MINI no only changed my tire pressure from 40psi |
| 02:51.02 | sorphin | (max of 51) |
| 02:51.07 | sorphin | to ~35 |
| 02:51.11 | sorphin | they were INCONSISTANT |
| 02:51.16 | kergoth | eh, wtf |
| 02:51.22 | sorphin | well |
| 02:51.26 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.33 | sorphin | uses the antilock brake sensors |
| 02:51.39 | fontenot | ah of course |
| 02:51.40 | sorphin | so it saw a wheel or 2 going slower |
| 02:51.42 | sorphin | ... |
| 02:51.51 | fontenot | yep my dad's car has same problem when he had a low tire |
| 02:52.12 | fontenot | i just got new tires put on my jeep - the pressures were all over the place |
| 02:52.22 | sorphin | fontenot: i had to rotate |
| 02:52.25 | fontenot | their equipment is not very precise at all |
| 02:52.26 | sorphin | fucking runflats |
| 02:52.31 | sorphin | 12k miles |
| 02:52.39 | sorphin | and the fronts were already getting thin |
| 02:52.46 | fontenot | ah :-\ |
| 02:52.49 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 02:52.53 | sorphin | so i went front to back |
| 02:52.55 | fontenot | well front wheel drive is always hard on the fronts |
| 02:52.57 | sorphin | boy was THAT fun |
| 02:53.10 | sorphin | fontenot: you have to BEAT the tires/wheels off the hubs |
| 02:53.13 | sorphin | literally |
| 02:53.21 | sorphin | the alloy and steel hub react |
| 02:53.24 | fontenot | really? why is that? |
| 02:53.27 | sorphin | and weld together persay |
| 02:53.28 | fontenot | oooh that's not good |
| 02:53.37 | sorphin | fontenot: it'll happen on any car w/ alloy wheels |
| 02:53.44 | fontenot | I've heard of that but would not expect it in such a well designed vehicle |
| 02:53.45 | sorphin | easy fix |
| 02:53.54 | fontenot | hmm I havent seen it on the miata |
| 02:53.55 | sorphin | grease on the hub, or anti seize compound |
| 02:54.05 | sorphin | fontenot: welll..... they say not to rotate your tires :P |
| 02:54.32 | sorphin | fontenot: i have decided tho |
| 02:54.36 | sorphin | no more runflats |
| 02:54.41 | sorphin | i don't care if i don't have a spare |
| 02:54.45 | fontenot | oh course I tend to remove the wheels from the miata more often that the average person - but I havent heard of it as a problem either |
| 02:54.46 | sorphin | in 11 years of driving |
| 02:54.49 | sorphin | i've never had a flat |
| 02:54.50 | sorphin | ever |
| 02:55.03 | fontenot | I have them every couple of years :-( |
| 02:55.07 | kergoth | the crossfire has no runflats, and doesnt come with a spare |
| 02:55.11 | sorphin | get me a good set of 235/40/17 cooper tires |
| 02:55.13 | sorphin | kergoth: haha |
| 02:55.14 | kergoth | it comes with .. get this .. basically that fixaflat shit |
| 02:55.17 | fontenot | before I got new tires on the jeep, it had a slow leak in one tire |
| 02:55.20 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 02:55.24 | sorphin | ~cluebat kergoth |
| 02:55.26 | ibot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps kergoth. |
| 02:55.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:55.31 | kergoth | there's no room for a fucking spare |
| 02:55.36 | sorphin | kergoth: right |
| 02:55.40 | sorphin | hence why they did runflats |
| 02:55.45 | sorphin | they're nice |
| 02:55.47 | sorphin | but i don't need em |
| 02:55.53 | fontenot | i dont trust that fixaflat stuff at all |
| 02:55.53 | sorphin | and the ride is harder |
| 02:56.04 | sorphin | kergoth: after all |
| 02:56.08 | fontenot | i dont want to be putting essentially glue into my tires |
| 02:56.12 | kergoth | well, i've got roadside assistance and shit, i'm not worried |
| 02:56.12 | sorphin | i have mini roadside rescue... |
| 02:56.15 | sorphin | yup |
| 02:56.27 | fontenot | at least miata has mini spare |
| 02:56.36 | sorphin | fontenot: uhh |
| 02:56.43 | fontenot | and if you remove everything from the trunk, you can fit the full sized tire in there :-) |
| 02:56.47 | kergoth | sorphin: how much does a mini weigh? |
| 02:56.51 | sorphin | fontenot: miata has room in the HOOD for the BATTERY |
| 02:56.59 | sorphin | mini S dont |
| 02:57.05 | fontenot | sorphin, huh? |
| 02:57.13 | sorphin | fontenot: my battery is in a box in the boot |
| 02:57.15 | fontenot | miata battery is in the trunk on passenger side for balance |
| 02:57.23 | sorphin | hmm |
| 02:57.38 | sorphin | mine's in the center in the 'trunk' floor |
| 02:57.46 | kergoth | i need to replace the crappy woofers in the back with a pair of actual subs |
| 02:57.51 | fontenot | they made a big deal about using a special gell compound so that read end collisions wont spray battery acid all over the passengers |
| 02:57.58 | sorphin | kergoth: i have a pair of JL Audio 12W3's on the way |
| 02:58.01 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 02:58.15 | sorphin | new |
| 02:58.18 | sorphin | 112.50/per |
| 02:58.24 | sorphin | getting the fucking AMP however |
| 02:58.26 | sorphin | is another story |
| 02:58.27 | kergoth | sorphin: have you seen pioneer's stereo with the GPS navigation, and sensors? |
| 02:58.36 | sorphin | nope |
| 02:58.38 | kergoth | the fucking popup lcd will show acceleration and g forces and shit |
| 02:58.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:58.44 | kergoth | pricey little box though |
| 02:58.45 | sorphin | kergoth: so will my laptop :P |
| 02:58.47 | fontenot | wow |
| 02:58.59 | fontenot | i want one of those gtech pro meters |
| 02:59.05 | kergoth | sorphin: well yeah, but having it all built in would be nice |
| 02:59.08 | kergoth | less hardware to have around |
| 02:59.09 | fontenot | keep meaning to get one |
| 02:59.25 | sorphin | kergoth: the factory radio came out |
| 02:59.29 | kergoth | i've been thinking about getting my ECU reprogrammed, but i want to see some gyro before & after numbers first |
| 02:59.33 | sorphin | got an eclipse in there |
| 02:59.41 | fontenot | dyno ? |
| 02:59.44 | fontenot | heh |
| 02:59.45 | sorphin | kergoth: you mean dyno? ;) |
| 02:59.48 | kergoth | heh, yeah |
| 02:59.49 | kergoth | typo |
| 02:59.57 | sorphin | dynamometer |
| 03:00.15 | sorphin | there's some sw out there |
| 03:00.18 | sorphin | cheap |
| 03:00.25 | kergoth | yeah, i saw a couple of those |
| 03:00.26 | sorphin | that will give you an approximate dynbo |
| 03:00.32 | sorphin | dyno via ODBII info |
| 03:00.34 | fontenot | gtech pro will do it |
| 03:00.41 | fontenot | oh not via obdii |
| 03:00.44 | kergoth | i was checking out gtech pro myself too |
| 03:00.45 | sorphin | this is |
| 03:00.55 | fontenot | (on Board Diagnostics = OBD) |
| 03:00.58 | sorphin | i know |
| 03:01.01 | kergoth | whats odbii? |
| 03:01.02 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:01.19 | sorphin | kergoth: how they read codes and shit in your car |
| 03:01.29 | sorphin | also gives you useful info |
| 03:01.32 | fontenot | 96 was first year for obdii in moata |
| 03:01.36 | sorphin | your mixture |
| 03:01.39 | kergoth | yeah. i did a bit of research on teh particular bus connected to the ecu on the benz and crossfire |
| 03:01.47 | kergoth | hefty licensing on that stuff |
| 03:01.55 | sorphin | kergoth: BMW uses a hybrid |
| 03:01.56 | fontenot | Miata |
| 03:01.58 | fontenot | lol |
| 03:02.07 | sorphin | ODBII and CanBus shit |
| 03:02.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:02.15 | kergoth | sorphin: heh |
| 03:02.22 | sorphin | and won't give up info |
| 03:02.27 | sorphin | so ppl rev engineer it |
| 03:02.33 | kergoth | i know this |
| 03:02.35 | sorphin | you can change so much shit in this car |
| 03:02.38 | kergoth | my best friend runs www.tvonnav.com |
| 03:02.40 | sorphin | it's not even funny |
| 03:02.47 | sorphin | uhhhhhh |
| 03:03.01 | sorphin | kergoth: i may wanna talk to you in a sec |
| 03:03.26 | sorphin | yep |
| 03:03.36 | sorphin | we need to talk ;p |
| 03:03.47 | kergoth | heheh, k |
| 03:03.55 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:05.32 | fontenot | wish it was that easy to add power to my car |
| 03:05.51 | fontenot | lately I have been thinking about just waiting a couple of years and getting a elise which is what I really want |
| 03:06.12 | sorphin | fontenot: hell |
| 03:06.22 | sorphin | reprogging the ECU will add more |
| 03:06.23 | sorphin | and |
| 03:06.25 | sorphin | get this |
| 03:06.34 | sorphin | better exhaust on this car |
| 03:06.38 | sorphin | +20 bhp |
| 03:07.03 | sorphin | (with other proper changes) |
| 03:07.20 | kergoth | fontenot: heh, go find the right enthusiast forums and shit, you'll quickly gather the info on what's worth doing and what isnt |
| 03:07.25 | fontenot | once you have FI, more power is relatively straight-forward |
| 03:07.46 | fontenot | i have researched adding power to the miata since about 95 |
| 03:07.48 | sorphin | fontenot: yeah, a 15% pulley will bump me up like 8 more PSI |
| 03:08.03 | kergoth | 15% pulley? |
| 03:08.05 | sorphin | a 17 will do a little |
| 03:08.13 | sorphin | 19 will move the boost down to 2k rpm |
| 03:08.27 | sorphin | kergoth: 15% smaller pulley on the supercharger |
| 03:08.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:12.18 | sorphin | ya know |
| 03:12.22 | sorphin | this is the 1st car i've had |
| 03:12.32 | sorphin | that has constant ECU firmware revisions |
| 03:12.38 | sorphin | to change/fix things |
| 03:12.53 | sorphin | my car's V34 |
| 03:12.55 | sorphin | V38's out now |
| 03:13.03 | sorphin | the civic was hard set |
| 03:13.10 | kergoth | who does the upgrades? dealer? |
| 03:14.12 | sorphin | yup |
| 03:14.35 | kergoth | thats cool. i've been monitoring the problem reports on the crossfire, havent hit any of them myself yet |
| 03:14.38 | sorphin | only cuz they're the ones w/ the SW and the programmer |
| 03:14.46 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:14.56 | sorphin | ~lart CanBus |
| 03:15.02 | kergoth | i looked into ecu programming equipment a bit.. would be fun to play around with |
| 03:15.08 | kergoth | its just flash. disassemble it, poke around |
| 03:15.13 | sorphin | well |
| 03:15.19 | sorphin | kergoth: one prob w/ the mini's |
| 03:15.27 | sorphin | even BMW doesn't have the *codE* |
| 03:15.35 | sorphin | it's a Siemens ECU |
| 03:15.43 | kergoth | ah that sucks |
| 03:16.19 | sorphin | which is fine, tbh |
| 03:16.19 | sorphin | i just wanna be able to poke at my numbers |
| 03:16.47 | kergoth | heh, would be cool to save the original ecu flash contents. then hit up a performance shop to reprogram it, and compare |
| 03:17.02 | sorphin | kergoth: think i found a local dyno shop |
| 03:19.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:19.33 | sorphin | 200G (195G) drive |
| 03:19.39 | sorphin | ~77G free |
| 03:19.58 | kergoth | 45 free on mine |
| 03:20.06 | kergoth | audio collection is using up a lot of space |
| 03:20.07 | sorphin | kergoth: well, i'm not done yet :P |
| 03:20.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:20.41 | sorphin | 18 dvds on it |
| 03:20.54 | kergoth | i've been planning on ripping my dvds |
| 03:21.03 | kergoth | would be nice to not have to swap disks all the time |
| 03:21.46 | sorphin | kergoth: well, you can talk to your friend and see if he wants to try canbus w/ me |
| 03:21.50 | kergoth | but this 200gb drive isnt sufficient for that.. i wish fiberchannel wasnt so damn expensive |
| 03:21.54 | kergoth | k |
| 03:22.06 | sorphin | wish that tv shit wasn't $899 :-P |
| 03:24.58 | sorphin | cya |
| 04:11.28 | kergoth | sorphin: man, i so cant be trusted at tower records. dropped a hundred bucks on random cds today |
| 04:44.49 | sorphin | kergoth: oops |
| 04:44.55 | sorphin | kergoth: anything good? |
| 04:45.22 | fontenot | i but tons of dvds but havent bought a cd since 95 |
| 04:45.25 | fontenot | buy |
| 04:45.48 | fontenot | (I dont pirate music either in case that was the implication) |
| 04:45.54 | kergoth | wumpscut's new one, their old born again album, a rarities and b sides album for queens of the stone age, steriogram album, the new rasputina album, a sinatra collection, and sammy hagar's new one |
| 04:46.17 | sorphin | ah |
| 04:46.34 | fontenot | i was a really early adopter of cd's - 85 or 86 |
| 04:46.42 | kergoth | i like some of sammy's stuff |
| 04:46.47 | kergoth | not really his stuff when he was with van halen |
| 04:46.53 | kergoth | but the solo stuff, like i cant drive 55 |
| 04:46.53 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:47.04 | fontenot | i remember the pitch - they cost a lot now ($15-$20) but in a couple of years they will be like $5 or less as manufacturing costs go down |
| 04:47.07 | fontenot | YEAH RIGHT |
| 04:47.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:47.25 | fontenot | where's all that money going ptay tell? |
| 04:47.46 | sorphin | finally |
| 04:47.50 | sorphin | i can use digimoto |
| 04:47.53 | fontenot | it costs them like .25 to make one now |
| 04:48.09 | fontenot | something is just not right |
| 04:48.22 | sorphin | (the sw for the odbii interface) that shows 0-60 times, the psuedo dyno, etc |
| 04:48.45 | fontenot | cool - with I had a more modern vehicle so I could do hack it |
| 04:48.53 | fontenot | wish |
| 04:49.17 | sorphin | finally dug up a keygen :P |
| 04:50.05 | sorphin | there's NO demo |
| 04:50.17 | sorphin | so you can't even see if it's worth it before you buy it |
| 04:50.58 | fontenot | that's suboptimal |
| 04:51.18 | fontenot | darn I can't route to openembedded.org |
| 05:03.32 | sorphin | this shit is annoying me |
| 05:03.36 | sorphin | all these hosed websites |
| 05:19.07 | fontenot | hosed by the IE/IIS trojan ? |
| 05:19.14 | fontenot | or maybe this is a worm |
| 05:26.17 | sorphin | either way |
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