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`03:44.21`	`sorphin`	`kergoth: sup`
`03:46.25`	`kergoth`	`nada, just got home from SC`
`03:46.29`	`kergoth`	`takin it easy`
`03:46.29`	`kergoth`	`you?`
`03:50.51`	`sorphin`	`SC ?`
`03:51.31`	`sorphin`	`kergoth: picked the lawyer today, talked to missy, got to listen to more of the BS her parents are spouting.. hopefully soon she'll finally tell them to shut up, it's her life`
`03:52.10`	`sorphin`	`SC = South Carolina, where your "ex" was?`
`03:55.02`	`kergoth`	`yep`
`03:56.02`	`sorphin`	`how'd that go?`
`03:56.45`	`kergoth`	`pretty well. had a good time, actually. she's not really my type, but i like her anyway. rather odd`
`03:57.02`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`03:58.32`	`kergoth`	`normally i wouldnt, but it was one i broke up with, not vice versa. i'm in the controlling position here`
`03:58.41`	`kergoth`	`will see`
`04:13.41`	`sorphin`	`how's the crossfire holding up?`
`04:14.17`	`kergoth`	`quite well. still need to fix that leaking passenger side rear tire one of these days`
`04:14.34`	`kergoth`	`drove a rental grand prix out in SC.. got back and thoroughly enjoyed the drive back in my own vehicle :)`
`04:29.13`	`sorphin`	`cuz i can't really afford to replace a clutch right now`
`04:30.41`	`kergoth`	`ah`
`04:32.09`	`sorphin`	`and still owe 1250 more`
`04:32.09`	`kergoth`	`ouch`
`04:33.21`	`sorphin`	`kergoth: well, if that's what it takes to clear this, then that's what it takes`
`04:44.43`	`kergoth`	`grabbed franz ferdinand's cd (current hit: Take Me Out), and a cd by The Hives, and some random ministry, god module, and other stuff`
`04:44.46`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`04:47.42`	`sorphin`	`kergoth: saw the video partly on mtv for franz, switched channels`
`04:48.06`	`kergoth`	`still on this alternative/punk/indie kick lately`
`04:48.11`	`kergoth`	`with periodic bouts of goth/industrial`
`05:22.53`	`kergoth`	`mm, new assemblage 23`
`07:47.32`	`sorphin`	`woowoo`
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`07:47.51`	`sorphin`	`my webpal simm flasher finally works`
`08:03.27`	`MonMotha`	`heh, I need to build one of those`
`08:03.37`	`sorphin`	`MonMotha: i copied bigbrds`
`08:03.49`	`sorphin`	`i used a 16F877A tho instead of an 877`
`08:03.59`	`sorphin`	`finaly got bored tonight and decided to dig it back out`
`08:04.10`	`sorphin`	`got the 877A to play nice (w/ the right config flags)`
`08:04.12`	`MonMotha`	`bigbrd made a simm flasher thingie?`
`08:04.30`	`sorphin`	`and discovered that i should be using +12V to the PIC board`
`08:04.31`	`sorphin`	`ya`
`08:04.36`	`sorphin`	`using a DCT-106`
`08:04.56`	`sorphin`	`and a simm board w/ 3 octals (i think they're octals, i forget)`
`08:05.05`	`sorphin`	`bought that board itself (the pcb) from him`
`08:05.10`	`MonMotha`	`ah`
`08:05.22`	`sorphin`	`now i just have to find my damn webpal PSU`
`08:05.28`	`MonMotha`	`I was just going to use a big microcontroller with tons of IO lines :)`
`08:05.31`	`sorphin`	`MonMotha: was easier than expressPCB'ing`
`08:05.36`	`MonMotha`	`yeah, I can imagine`
`08:05.51`	`sorphin`	`MonMotha: well, it works now, so that's all that matters`
`08:06.00`	`sorphin`	`now.. where the fsck is that BRICK`
`08:06.15`	`MonMotha`	`I need to get one of those photoactive PCB thingies so I can etch stuff printed from a PC`
`08:06.30`	`sorphin`	`local elex place has that stuff`
`08:06.51`	`sorphin`	`never had time for that tho`
`08:06.56`	`MonMotha`	`yeah, there's a guy around here who sells it`
`08:07.15`	`sorphin`	`TomW and/or Ken should be glad to hear i got it working finally, heh`
`08:07.18`	`MonMotha`	`so far, I've just been "engraving" my boards on plain copper clad, though I could etch too if I wanted to`
`08:07.24`	`sorphin`	`heh`
`08:07.30`	`sorphin`	`engraving with....`
`08:13.32`	`sorphin`	`MonMotha: wake up :P`
`08:13.36`	`MonMotha`	`:)`
`08:13.40`	`MonMotha`	`engraving with a dremel`
`08:13.51`	`MonMotha`	`you just take a dremel and cut out both sides of the trace away`
`08:13.52`	`sorphin`	`ah`
`08:13.55`	`MonMotha`	`very quick, not very precise`
`08:14.00`	`MonMotha`	`works fine for big stuff though`
`08:14.02`	`sorphin`	`happen to have a webpal handy?`
`08:14.12`	`sorphin`	`need to remember what the brick loosk liek`
`08:14.14`	`MonMotha`	`got one sitting under the bed here with allt he case taken apart :)`
`08:14.15`	`sorphin`	`looks even`
`08:14.46`	`sorphin`	`and the ratings on it`
`08:15.03`	`MonMotha`	`the one I had is one with a big transformer block in the middle, 110VAC to the wall and 8VAC to the webp coming out of opposite ends`
`08:15.10`	`MonMotha`	`I don't hve a US one handy, though I have a UK one :)`
`08:15.28`	`MonMotha`	`nm, here's the US one`
`08:15.33`	`MonMotha`	`8VAC @ 2A`
`08:15.46`	`MonMotha`	`or you can drive it with DC if you clip onto the filter cap IIRC`
`08:15.50`	`MonMotha`	`anything up to about 9V should be good`
`08:15.55`	`MonMotha`	`probe it out first`
`08:16.00`	`MonMotha`	`make sure you're BEFORE the regulator :)`
`08:16.38`	`MonMotha`	`yup, just clip a giant 7-9VDC power supply onto the bypass cap and you should be good`
`08:16.41`	`MonMotha`	`or use the real wart :)`
`08:16.50`	`MonMotha`	`not really a wart I guess`
`08:17.01`	`sorphin`	`i have a nice 12V lead acid from a UPS tho ;)`
`08:17.10`	`sorphin`	`or ya think 12v is too much? ;)`
`08:17.21`	`MonMotha`	`might work`
`08:17.27`	`MonMotha`	`just make sure the regulator doesn't get too hot`
`08:17.33`	`MonMotha`	`IIRC it got pretty toasty even on 8V`
`08:18.30`	`MonMotha`	`I have a bunch of pins I inserted one by one...never even sucked the solder out of the holes :)`
`08:18.43`	`MonMotha`	`then I think I had wires clipped on to a MAX232 :)`
`08:19.20`	`sorphin`	`w/ a lil board w/ a max 225`
`08:19.36`	`MonMotha`	`hum, where was that page describing the mods needed to use the IDE connector?`
`08:19.40`	`MonMotha`	`I recall a pin needed to be lifted`
`08:19.50`	`sorphin`	`actually`
`08:20.02`	`MonMotha`	`ah, found it :)`
`08:20.06`	`sorphin`	`that pin didn't need to be lifted on the one i have`
`08:20.16`	`MonMotha`	`different PCB rev?`
`08:20.35`	`sorphin`	`no`
`08:20.39`	`sorphin`	`the SMC FDC`
`08:20.49`	`sorphin`	`a 665GT doesn't need the lift`
`08:21.01`	`sorphin`	`666 (i think) does`
`08:21.14`	`MonMotha`	`ah, different SuperIO chip`
`08:21.17`	`MonMotha`	`I have a 666 on this one`
`08:21.22`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`08:21.25`	`sorphin`	`mine are 665`
`08:21.30`	`MonMotha`	`I had traced out the reason for that bug at one point`
`08:21.34`	`sorphin`	`you have a satanic webpal ;)`
`08:21.39`	`MonMotha`	`heh`
`08:21.42`	`MonMotha`	`pretty much`
`08:21.55`	`MonMotha`	`I also completely cut the 8052 micro from both serial lines`
`08:22.03`	`MonMotha`	`should probably just remove the chip since it's doing nothing`
`08:22.18`	`MonMotha`	`hum, you think I could pull off 352x240 MJPEG decoding ni software on this sucker?`
`08:22.21`	`MonMotha`	`it does have an FPU`
`08:22.29`	`sorphin`	`uhh`
`08:22.32`	`sorphin`	`dunno`
`08:22.42`	`MonMotha`	`eh, we'll see`
`08:22.50`	`MonMotha`	`if not, I guess I could put a hardware decoder on it`
`08:22.50`	`sorphin`	`you do the ram mod?`
`08:23.08`	`sorphin`	`heh, bigbrd added an RTC this year`
`08:23.10`	`sorphin`	`to it`
`08:23.29`	`MonMotha`	`I don't have any 64MB SIMMs laying around, though I think I modded the one I gave my friend`
`08:23.39`	`MonMotha`	`since he had a 64MB SIMM laying around`
`08:23.48`	`MonMotha`	`or was it a 32..I don't remember, anyway, he could use the mod`
`08:23.58`	`MonMotha`	`yeah, RTC could just be added on the ISA bus`
`08:23.59`	`sorphin`	`allows 64`
`08:24.08`	`sorphin`	`well`
`08:24.13`	`sorphin`	`that's not how he did`
`08:24.18`	`sorphin`	`he used cpu lines`
`08:24.28`	`MonMotha`	`yeah, the MEMW and MEMR lines are NC on the ISA port`
`08:24.32`	`MonMotha`	`though that could probably be fixed`
`08:24.53`	`MonMotha`	`along with a bigger address space if you needed it`
`08:25.01`	`sorphin`	`thing i have about the back of this thing`
`08:25.06`	`sorphin`	`no where to shove the 9pinner`
`08:25.12`	`MonMotha`	`annoying, eh`
`08:25.23`	`sorphin`	`well, not w/o some metal work`
`08:25.24`	`MonMotha`	`you could put it under the video out`
`08:25.26`	`MonMotha`	`yeah`
`08:25.37`	`MonMotha`	`or on an ISA card in a spot that's not taken by a connector`
`08:25.42`	`sorphin`	`nod`
`08:25.43`	`MonMotha`	`I just have an NE2000 ethernet card in mine right now`
`08:25.50`	`MonMotha`	`haven't put linux on this one yet though`
`08:26.09`	`sorphin`	`i used my microscope to do the ram mod, it was neat`
`08:26.22`	`sorphin`	`just used it again the other day for an SMT resistor on the WSP`
`08:26.31`	`MonMotha`	`WSP?`
`08:26.33`	`sorphin`	`wished i had this thing when i did the ethernet mod on it`
`08:26.35`	`sorphin`	`websurfer pro`
`08:28.38`	`sorphin`	`need to do something w/ my IOpeners too`
`08:31.25`	`MonMotha`	`heh, I need to get to work on the DCT-5000 too`
`08:31.31`	`sorphin`	`yeah`
`08:31.40`	`sorphin`	`i have $100 in those sitting there doing nothing`
`08:31.47`	`sorphin`	`and tom and ken can't be motivated`
`08:32.12`	`MonMotha`	`well, since I've recently become knowledgable with MIPS, I could work on that`
`08:32.23`	`MonMotha`	`you don't happen to know much about PSX stuff, do you?`
`08:38.06`	`MonMotha`	`I see that the mention of MIPS scares you :0`
`08:43.43`	`sorphin`	`MIPS doesn't scare me`
`08:43.50`	`sorphin`	`i was off looking for the PSUs`
`08:43.52`	`sorphin`	`still no sign`
`08:51.47`	`MonMotha`	`you've got a PC right? 7V between the 12V and 5V lines :)`
`08:51.57`	`MonMotha`	`or just feed it right off the 5V line past the regulator`
`08:52.47`	`MonMotha`	`heh :)`
`08:52.51`	`MonMotha`	`probably a good idea`
`08:52.53`	`MonMotha`	`almost 4AM`
`08:52.53`	`sorphin`	`well, it IS 4am :P`
`08:52.57`	`sorphin`	`yep`
`08:53.18`	`sorphin`	`not that i really have anything to do today`
`08:55.35`	`sorphin`	`MonMotha: night`
`08:55.58`	`MonMotha`	`gn`
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`14:17.08`	`CosmicPenguin`	`yep`
`14:18.10`	`chouimat`	`hi CosmicPenguin`
`14:19.10`	`CosmicPenguin`	`chouimat: Whats up?`
`14:19.24`	`chouimat`	`CosmicPenguin: playing with some nasty code today :)`
`14:19.48`	`CosmicPenguin`	`You do that every day.. :)`
`14:20.04`	`CosmicPenguin`	`Hello! Its KDE!`
`14:20.31`	`chouimat`	`CosmicPenguin: I know you don't like it ... but it's not kde related directly`
`14:20.39`	`CosmicPenguin`	`hehe...`
`14:20.42`	`CosmicPenguin`	`no, I don't mind KDE`
`14:20.45`	`CosmicPenguin`	`I just like making fun`
`14:21.40`	`chouimat`	`CosmicPenguin: some network code that probe the network and guess the configuration of it`
`14:29.09`	`CosmicPenguin`	`chouimat: heh`
`14:29.29`	`CosmicPenguin`	`chouimat: I've got a nasty one too - It searches all the block devices on the system looking for a specially tagged partition`
`14:31.52`	`chouimat`	`CosmicPenguin: hehe`
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`14:46.46`	`CosmicPenguin`	`HOly crap, its a hillbilly`
`14:47.03`	`prpplague`	`the one and only`
`14:48.20`	`prpplague`	`CosmicPenguin: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5313015446.html`
`14:48.33`	`prpplague`	`CosmicPenguin: would be nice for your gx thin client`
`14:49.10`	`prpplague`	`ibot: seen tomw`
`14:49.12`	`ibot`	`tomw <~TomW@24.238.78.102.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 21d 14h 45m 27s ago, saying: 'freakin' Linksys gigabit card panic'ed the kernel'.`
`14:49.20`	`prpplague`	`ibot: seen t0mw`
`14:49.20`	`ibot`	`t0mw <tom@24.238.78.102.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 5d 14h 46m 2s ago, saying: 'fontenot: I got my start in electronics by collecting old radios and TV sets that the nieghbors threw out. I wonder if, in 10 years, kids will be pulling StrongARM chips off old PDAs and TV sets?'.`
`14:52.34`	`CosmicPenguin`	`TransFlash has built-in content protection rights management to allow secure downloads of content such as songs, video clips and video games.`
`14:52.39`	`CosmicPenguin`	`Horseshit!`
`14:54.16`	`prpplague`	`CosmicPenguin: yea, i don't see how they can implement that without cutting off a ton of legitiment uses`
`14:57.14`	`CosmicPenguin`	`See thats the problem - they keep trying to do this crap DRM, which doesn't protect us against anything`
`15:34.15`	`prpplague`	`CosmicPenguin: hehe, did you see how much that old 6502 board went for on ebay?`
`15:36.10`	`CosmicPenguin`	`No`
`15:36.11`	`chouimat`	`prpplague: morning`
`15:36.33`	`prpplague`	`CosmicPenguin: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5111400178&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT`
`15:36.37`	`prpplague`	`chouimat: morning`
`15:37.11`	`CosmicPenguin`	`nice`
`15:37.53`	`chouimat`	`prpplague: tabarnack!`
`15:40.21`	`file[laptop]`	`oh wow`
`15:40.26`	`file[laptop]`	`$711? oh wow...`
`15:46.41`	`prpplague`	`hehe the inhand elf board i paid almost 3k for back in '99`
`15:46.54`	`prpplague`	`sold for $100`
`15:47.11`	`file[laptop]`	`money is money, money is good`
`15:47.58`	`prpplague`	`file[laptop]: yea well it really hurts thinking that i lost so much money on that board`
`15:48.09`	`prpplague`	`file[laptop]: it was a good learning tool, but not for 3k`
`15:49.28`	`chouimat`	`prpplague: 3K for a 6502 board?`
`15:51.03`	`prpplague`	`chouimat: no for the inhand elf board`
`15:51.12`	`chouimat`	`prpplague: ok`
`15:51.15`	`prpplague`	`chouimat: sa-1100`
`15:51.21`	`chouimat`	`prpplague: nice`
`15:51.28`	`prpplague`	`chouimat: not really`
`15:51.42`	`prpplague`	`chouimat: proprietary POS and i don't mean point of sale`
`15:51.57`	`chouimat`	`prpplague: hehe`
`15:52.48`	`prpplague`	`chouimat: newbies always pay the price`
`15:53.01`	`prpplague`	`chouimat: i'd never pay that much for a dev board again`
`15:53.23`	`chouimat`	`prpplague: true ... I need to finaly do something with my webpal ...`
`15:58.29`	`kergoth`	`bleh`
`15:58.55`	`prpplague`	`kergoth: hey crack baby`
`15:59.00`	`kergoth`	`hey`
`15:59.03`	`kergoth`	`whats goin on`
`15:59.15`	`prpplague`	`kergoth: ssdd just higher and stinkier`
`16:00.42`	`prpplague`	`kergoth: you?`
`16:00.49`	`prpplague`	`kergoth: hows the new car doing?`
`16:01.00`	`kergoth`	`came in at 8;30am for a 2.5 hour meeting, so not entirely happy or conscious, but not bad otherwise`
`16:01.19`	`kergoth`	`went out to charleston, sc last weekend and met up with one of my ex's`
`16:01.35`	`kergoth`	`car's still working fine. still thoroughly enjoy driving it :)`
`16:03.35`	`prpplague`	`cool`
`16:04.32`	`kergoth`	`any progress on finding another job and/or moving?`
`16:05.36`	`prpplague`	`hell no`
`16:06.12`	`prpplague`	`linux opens in dallas and austin seem a little hard to find right now`
`16:06.21`	`prpplague`	`s/opens/openings`
`16:07.44`	`prpplague`	`kergoth: had several offers for california, but can't move out of state yet`
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`16:32.22`	`prpplague`	`lovely 3 r00ted system in 2 weeks`
`16:36.46`	`CosmicPenguin`	`stupid USB messages`
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