| 00:00.12 | kergoth | TimRiker: have you played with oe yet? |
| 00:00.55 | TimRiker | kergoth: not yet built anything with it correctly. poked around some. |
| 00:01.35 | Soopaman | sorphin, your usb enclosure can't be that unreliable |
| 00:01.53 | Soopaman | or is it the usb_storage module that is flaky? |
| 00:02.37 | andersee | kergoth: how do I ask bk to make a patch vs the upstream repo, so I can send you a patch fixing oe xmms-embedded |
| 00:03.13 | kergoth | you have a couple options. if you havent added any new files, and have only made local modifications, you can use 'bk diffs -u [filenames]' |
| 00:03.25 | kergoth | if its any more complex than that, you're best off checking the changes into your local repository |
| 00:03.29 | kergoth | then exporting that changeset as a patch |
| 00:03.39 | kergoth | you can use bk's "citool" GUI to do so, if you're new to bk |
| 00:03.42 | kergoth | makes it pretty painless |
| 00:04.02 | sorphin | Soopaman: it's not the usb enclosure |
| 00:04.13 | sorphin | Soopaman: try reading the logs when you mount a usb drive :P |
| 00:04.23 | sorphin | basically says reliability not guaranteed |
| 00:04.52 | kergoth | i'd trust a firewire drive over a usb one, myself |
| 00:04.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:05.17 | Soopaman | sorphin, do you have an ipod? |
| 00:05.46 | Soopaman | i've been able to sync mine using usb2 without any noticable problems |
| 00:06.58 | sorphin | Soopaman: an ipod isn't a usb enclosure :P |
| 00:07.01 | andersee | bah |
| 00:07.41 | andersee | kergoth: ok, if I move my changes elsewhere, how can I tell bk to re checkout the upstream version |
| 00:07.51 | andersee | bk pull does nothing |
| 00:08.01 | kergoth | your local tree *is* a repository |
| 00:08.05 | kergoth | all versions of all files are there |
| 00:08.10 | kergoth | no reason to touch the real upstream repo |
| 00:08.29 | kergoth | you can use bk co to check out the current version of a given file, or call bk get with a specific revision |
| 00:08.37 | Soopaman | sorphin, but it uses the same module for data tranfers |
| 00:08.38 | kergoth | you can see the revisions using 'bk prs [filename]' |
| 00:08.47 | sorphin | Soopaman: and ? |
| 00:08.56 | sorphin | Soopaman: that doesn't mean it'll WORK the same |
| 00:09.14 | kergoth | andersee: if you want to get rid of local modifications that havent yet been checked in, just run bk unedit [filename]. thatll throw them out and check out the latest revision from the repo |
| 00:09.19 | kergoth | andersee: (which is the most common case) |
| 00:09.29 | kergoth | bitmover's site has a good doc on the methods of undoing things |
| 00:09.34 | Soopaman | sorphin, could you please elaborate on your perspective |
| 00:09.42 | Soopaman | 'cause i must be missing something |
| 00:11.41 | sorphin | Soopaman: i hook up my usb reader (cf, smartmedia, etc) |
| 00:11.45 | sorphin | works just fine too :P |
| 00:11.52 | sorphin | and uses usb_storage |
| 00:12.09 | sorphin | usb hdd enclosures, just because the use the same FSCKING drive |
| 00:12.12 | sorphin | +r |
| 00:12.27 | sorphin | doesnt' mean everything's gonna be sane |
| 00:12.28 | andersee | kergoth: k, thx |
| 00:12.37 | kergoth | np |
| 00:12.40 | sorphin | Soopaman: a hdd pushes more bits back and forth |
| 00:12.55 | andersee | kergoth: http://codepoet.org/xmms.patch teaches xmms-embedded to compile, least for me... |
| 00:14.08 | TimRiker | heh. /me left the tux kernel in there. oops. |
| 00:14.29 | TimRiker | ah well, headed home |
| 00:15.06 | andersee | kergoth: doubtless there is a better way to get the proper paths in there |
| 00:15.15 | TimRiker | Soopaman: usb_storage does not forget things... I'm in the habit of rmmod/modprobe it every time I remove something. |
| 00:15.34 | sorphin | timhsu_: indeed |
| 00:15.36 | sorphin | grrr |
| 00:15.37 | kergoth | yeah, i dislike the idea of patching it in such a way that it wont go upstream (giving it an awareness of OE specifics) |
| 00:15.46 | kergoth | means more metadata for us to maintain going forward |
| 00:15.50 | TimRiker | there are some scsi rescan scripts around that should work too and not force you to remove all usb-storage devices. |
| 00:15.52 | kergoth | i'll see if i can find a cleaner method |
| 00:16.14 | TimRiker | later all. |
| 00:16.19 | kergoth | later tim |
| 00:16.39 | andersee | kergoth: my patch is mainly a 'use a bigger hammer' effort |
| 00:16.39 | sorphin | Soopaman: all i can tell you is from experience, stuff pushed to/from these usb storage enclosures, is flakey sometimes |
| 00:16.53 | kergoth | andersee: hehe |
| 00:17.28 | kergoth | yep, getting it working is a priority. i'm willing to check it in with a FIXME: in the .oe, but i'd rather fix it properly now :) |
| 00:19.00 | andersee | i.e. http://trolls.troll.no/warwick/nethack/ipk/ |
| 00:19.03 | andersee | and/or |
| 00:19.05 | andersee | http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/opie-bigapps/nethack/ |
| 00:19.36 | andersee | my little boy really has fun playing |
| 00:21.10 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:21.28 | andersee | sorphin: your loss |
| 00:21.30 | andersee | :-) |
| 00:21.30 | kergoth | nethack is fun |
| 00:21.34 | kergoth | havent played it in a long time |
| 00:29.18 | andersee | kergoth: btw, is it just me? I find the opie Package Manager tends to wedge my Zaurus when installing stuff... |