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| 00:16.30 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: if you rely on upstream only, upstream could vanish on you. it isnt kosher to have the sources somewhwere you dont control, basically. |
| 00:17.34 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 00:17.37 | CosmicPenguin | I quit |
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| 01:17.27 | prpplague | T0mW: which automake were you using with your blob build? |
| 01:18.09 | T0mW | with the 2.0.5pre3 I was using 1.4 |
| 01:18.45 | T0mW | 1.6 did not work and failed with many errors. Maybe we have to drop back to automake1.3 ?? |
| 01:18.48 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:19.13 | prpplague | hmm, i'lll have to uninstall 1.6 since thats what comes with rhat9 |
| 01:20.52 | T0mW | urpme automake1.6 ; urpmi automake1.4 |
| 01:21.21 | prpplague | urpme? |
| 01:22.10 | T0mW | yeah, it is better at maintaining rpms, it does depenancy checking, looks for the dependant rpms and asks to load / remove all of them |
| 01:22.44 | prpplague | ahh |
| 01:23.04 | T0mW | for example, rpmbuild is dependant upon automake1.4, urpme automake1.4 would issue a warning that rpmbuild must also be uninstalled and asks permission to do so |
| 01:23.59 | T0mW | prpplague: it is a Mandrake thing, I doubt that RedHat has it. See: http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ |
| 01:24.58 | T0mW | prpplague: I just plug in the version of Mandrake and select which rpm repositories I wish to use and it gives me the urpmi.addmedia statement to activate that urpmi repository. |
| 01:25.28 | T0mW | makes maintaining different version distros a lot easier. |
| 01:25.48 | prpplague | crap automake is needed by libtool |
| 01:26.02 | T0mW | I've got: 8.2, 9.2, 10.0 and 10.1 Mandrake systems that I admin |
| 01:26.45 | prpplague | T0mW: which automake were you using 1.4 or one of the pre releases? |
| 01:27.00 | T0mW | prpplague: if you had urpme, you could say "sure kill libtool-2.1" and then urpmi would say "also need libtool-2.5" |
| 01:27.17 | chouimat|ibook | hmmmm 1.9.3 doesn't install here |
| 01:27.55 | T0mW | automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6 |
| 01:28.34 | T0mW | I had to switch them as I had 1.9 loaded: urpme automake1.9 ; urpmi automake1.4 |
| 01:28.48 | T0mW | like changing socks |
| 01:29.15 | chouimat|ibook | T0mW: i just export WANT_AUTOMAKE=<version> |
| 01:29.20 | T0mW | Mandrake is much friendlier to its users |
| 01:29.50 | T0mW | chouimat|ibook: will that work with automake1.9, tell it to behave like automake1.4 ? |
| 01:30.05 | T0mW | chouimat|ibook: or, is that a system thingy |
| 01:30.41 | chouimat|ibook | i use gentoo and they made a wrapper for autoconf/automake so i can have any version installed |
| 01:32.23 | T0mW | chouimat|ibook: that doesn't work here, automake1.9 still spews errors with "WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.9 autmake -a" |
| 01:32.25 | cdm | freaking gnu auto* tools. |
| 01:32.31 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:32.48 | T0mW | cdm: they do suck sometimes, don't they? |
| 01:33.07 | T0mW | IMHO, automake is the absolute worst |
| 01:33.58 | T0mW | chouimat|ibook: ok, I see, they have you install all the automakes and then the script decides which binary to run |
| 01:34.12 | chouimat|ibook | yup |
| 01:34.12 | T0mW | one way to do it. heh |
| 01:34.55 | chouimat|ibook | when i forget the variables kde say i'm using autoconf 2.13 ... |
| 01:35.01 | T0mW | I discovered urpmi about 14 months ago, it was there, lurking on my system, and I've really come to rely upon it. |
| 01:35.53 | T0mW | heh, I only recently found "service" (companion to "chkconfig") |
| 01:36.36 | T0mW | I'd done "/etc/rc.d/init.d/<blah> restart" for so long that the keystrokes are second nature to enter now. |
| 01:37.09 | T0mW | kind of like picking notes on a quitar |
| 01:37.47 | prpplague | T0mW: %$@$%@^%$#^$^#%#@%@@#$@$% |
| 01:38.44 | T0mW | prpplague: ain't RedHat fun? I dumped them 3 years ago |
| 01:39.19 | T0mW | ooooh! http://www.pricewatch.com has a new look |
| 01:39.31 | prpplague | T0mW: well i've always had problems getting blob to compile properly on rhat |
| 01:40.18 | T0mW | prpplague: well, I do: "automake -a ; automake ; autoconf " then the configure statement, then make |
| 01:42.26 | prpplague | T0mW: you get any warnings? |
| 01:42.39 | T0mW | let me do it again |
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| 01:43.00 | prpplague | T0mW: looks like there are some bad args in the code for cs8900 |
| 01:44.06 | T0mW | automake -a gives: |
| 01:44.09 | T0mW | configure.in: 27: required file `include/blob/config.h.in' not found |
| 01:44.49 | T0mW | [tom@BeastBox blob-2.0.5pre3]$ autoconf |
| 01:44.49 | T0mW | configure.in:26: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE |
| 01:44.49 | T0mW | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.49 | T0mW | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.49 | T0mW | configure.in:27: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONFIG_HEADER |
| 01:44.50 | T0mW | configure.in:32: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_MAINTAINER_MODE |
| 01:45.07 | T0mW | I haven't patched the source, it is from the tarball |
| 01:45.09 | prpplague | interesting |
| 01:46.38 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, looks like they forgot a ifdef block |
| 01:47.35 | T0mW | ok, run autoconf-2.13 that works okay |
| 01:47.36 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:47.51 | T0mW | autoconf-2.5 fails |
| 01:47.55 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:47.59 | T0mW | this sux |
| 01:48.03 | prpplague | T0mW: its compiling |
| 01:48.11 | T0mW | that is a good thing! |
| 01:48.33 | T0mW | now, write down what you just did, you'll forget how you did it later |
| 01:48.39 | prpplague | i'm using autoconf-2.57 |
| 01:48.45 | T0mW | hah! |
| 01:49.37 | T0mW | autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59 |
| 01:50.54 | T0mW | prpplague: is that the cvs version you're compiling? |
| 01:51.57 | T0mW | hmmmm |
| 01:52.01 | T0mW | This step is only necessary if you build blob from CVS. |
| 01:52.01 | T0mW | - Run "make -f Makefile.cvs" ttwwiiccee |
| 01:52.26 | T0mW | knew there was a secret to this thing |
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| 01:55.55 | T0mW | prpplague: automake1.9 works, it gives warnings, but doesn't bail on errors like 1.4 & 1.6 did |
| 01:59.28 | prpplague | T0mW: cvs + lh79520 patches |
| 01:59.46 | T0mW | k |
| 02:00.00 | T0mW | prpplague: what patches? Sharp patch? |
| 02:00.45 | prpplague | T0mW: lineo/metrowerks |
| 02:00.50 | prpplague | T0mW: for sharp |
| 02:00.57 | T0mW | nod |
| 02:01.20 | prpplague | T0mW: does include some support for the a400 |
| 02:01.31 | T0mW | prpplague: that may not work for the LPD card engine. Aren't those patches for the Sharp dev board? |
| 02:02.19 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, but its my understanding that the lpdlh7a400 is based on the design from the kev board |
| 02:03.47 | prpplague | T0mW: whats odd is the binary that was provided by lineo for blob is 90k, but the one i just built from source is only 30k |
| 02:04.18 | T0mW | prpplague: it is, but there were some hardware differences, I think that the UART was different, UART #2 instead of UART #1. |
| 02:04.41 | T0mW | prpplague: at least that is how it was with the LH7A400 |
| 02:06.25 | T0mW | hmm, acconfig.h is missing from CVS |
| 02:08.23 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, i seem to recall erikm saying something about the acconfig.h in cvs |
| 02:09.33 | T0mW | I'll try the one from 2.0.5pre3 |
| 02:12.53 | T0mW | prpplague: AH! This is the way to go, use the CVS, there is code in there for the Flash CFI (StrataFlash) |
| 02:13.29 | T0mW | prpplague: I'll have to manually install these patches, too many FUZZ and hunks failed |
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| 02:24.58 | prpplague | T0mW: CFI is supported on the fastbootblock as well |
| 02:26.28 | T0mW | prpplague: I'm switching back to the prob w/CPLD + Jtag |
| 02:33.54 | prpplague | T0mW: did you read how lpd/sharp suggests you program the flash on their boards? |
| 02:34.13 | T0mW | no |
| 02:35.22 | prpplague | T0mW: you jtag an app that inits the ram and cpld, then jtag the app(blob) to ram, then jtag another app that copies the ram to flash |
| 02:37.05 | T0mW | seen something like that in their forum. Trouble is that I only have access to the LH7A400 document section |
| 02:37.51 | T0mW | prpplague: I tried to two-stage blob into memory, then gave up and just burned it in w/Jtag |
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| 02:41.11 | T0mW | prpplague: heh, I got a response from LPD about the CPLD going catatonic, they completely misunderstood and gave me information on how to boot an offboard Flash. |
| 02:42.07 | T0mW | I guess that if you give 'em an answer, any answer then the customer will be happy? |
| 02:42.53 | T0mW | prpplague: I'm growing moss, time to shower, and escape from this place. later |
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