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00:00.04Tmob40 years... may need to check if the wood, and other material is in good shape
00:20.31sorphinheh
00:20.36sorphinthe house has been redone :P
00:20.53sorphinif he'd read the description at the bottom, he'd have seen that
00:20.57sorphinCosmicPenguin: ya
00:21.01sorphinand the basement is all mine ;)
00:21.22sorphinav room, computer room, etc
00:21.31CosmicPenguinLookin good though - 1300 ft^2 gonna be enough for you?
00:21.42sorphinya
00:21.55sorphini live in less now
00:22.29CosmicPenguinDon't sell yourself short
00:22.32CosmicPenguinspace is a wonderful thing to have
00:22.39sorphini know
00:22.57sorphinwell, there's 3 bedrooms upstairs, and only 2 of us and no kids
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00:30.14sorphinmallum: wotcher mate
00:36.31kergoth~seen cdm
00:36.33ibotcdm <~cdm@A17-213-20-53.apple.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 8h 6m 52s ago, saying: 'morning'.
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03:03.10chouimat|SG1sjhill: hi
03:03.20sjhillhey chouimat|SG1
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04:31.31chouimat|Zzzznight
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05:46.37sorphincdm: evenin
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05:48.37cdmhey sorphin
05:51.25kergoth_hey sorphin, cdm
05:51.50cdmevening kergoth
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06:25.00sorphinkergoth: you look at the pic?
06:25.04sorphinerm, pics
06:25.08kergoth?
06:25.15sorphinof my probable future house
06:25.25kergothwhat's the url?
06:25.49sorphinhttp://www.cbgundaker.com/search/advanced/detail.jsp?mls_num=443593&type=res
06:27.06kergothlooks nice.  3 bedrooms, 2 bath, relatively inexpensive
06:27.23kergothalmost 1400 sq ft, thats plenty for just you and your girl
06:27.43kergothhave you checked it out in person yet?
06:27.54sorphinya
06:28.01sorphinerm
06:28.05sorphinya to the looks nice
06:28.12sorphinand no, prolly doing that this weekend
06:28.16kergothcool
06:28.26sorphinonly sucky thing w/ the basement being finished
06:28.35sorphincan't wire the house very easily
06:29.02kergothnod
06:29.36kergothi'd like to get another house.. but considering i may be moving again..
06:29.37sorphinah well, got a shitload of wireless now.. 7 hermes based cards on the way
06:29.42sorphinkergoth: oh?
06:29.53kergothheh, my productivity at work is still down
06:30.23kergothi've pretty much pushed things as far as they can go.  i need to find another position, either in ti or elsehwere
06:30.51sorphinah
06:31.16kergoththere's just nothing to keep me interested or motivated
06:31.21sorphinheh
06:31.25kergothnothing to learn that i can learn without actual classes
06:31.27kergothno challenge
06:31.31sorphinheh
06:31.33kergothbored off my ass
06:31.35kergothtime for a change
06:31.52kergothwriting the same fucking drivers over and over for slightly varying platforms isnt my idea of a good time
06:31.55kergothheh
06:32.08kergothah well
06:32.20kergoththinking about a major career change.. outside of computing..
06:32.54sorphinkergoth: your idea of a good time is scotch :P
06:33.04kergothheh, not really
06:33.45sorphinheh
06:35.36sorphinheh
06:45.00sorphin~lart United Health Care
06:45.33cdmsorphin, uh-oh.
06:46.59sorphincdm: well, i'm still waiting on my insurance, and after almost a week of no nexium, my reflux is back in full force
06:47.49cdmfun fun.
06:48.06sorphinheh
06:48.19sorphincdm: bout as much fun as being steve jobs' pool boy i'm sure :P
06:49.47cdmmore like his LAN admin. ;)
06:50.31sorphinheh
06:50.33sorphinthat too
06:51.12sorphincdm: i really think the whole 'must be installed by an apple tech' thing w/ the stuff for the mac mini is stupid (i.e. putting in airport extreme later on)
06:51.53kergothOVIEDO, Fla. - A Presbyterian minister collapsed and died in mid-sentence of a sermon after saying "And when I go to heaven ...," his colleague said Monday.
06:52.02sorphinheh
06:52.19sorphinguess they'll never know
06:52.48cdmsorphin, basically it wasn't designed to be user accessable.
06:53.15sorphincdm: that doesn't mean a competent user (i.e. me) couldn't :P
06:53.18cdmsure.
06:53.59sorphincdm: so is that thing fanless (i hope not), to be so 'whisper quiet' ?
06:54.54cdmno - there is a small fan.
06:55.05sorphinheh
06:55.10sorphing4 not get that warm?
06:55.20sorphin(since you said small fan)
06:58.27cdmwell, it's basically an ibook.
06:58.32cdmand the ibook barely has a fan.
06:58.37sorphinheh
06:59.09sorphinnow it says it can do vga out, that mean a REAL vga connector off that DVI adapter, or that apple connector? :P
06:59.35cdmdoes it even have ADC?
06:59.40cdmthe new displays don't have it anymore.
07:00.11sorphinwell, the specs say it will dump out VGA, and it has a dvi conn
07:00.35cdmso there is probably a DVI<->VGA dongle in the box.
07:01.10sorphinright, but i wondered if it was "real" vga, or more apple video trickery :P
07:02.49sorphinheh
07:02.51sorphin"   Embedded SW Engineer"
07:04.04sorphin6 ipod jobs in santa clara valley
07:04.17cdmyeah - we are growing like mad.
07:04.29sorphincdm: what's your job title?
07:04.51sorphinmuhahahaha
07:04.58sorphinerm
07:05.02sorphindidn't wanna /m that
07:05.13sorphinUnix Administrator for Internet Services
07:05.15sorphinaka
07:05.17sorphinBOFH :P
07:05.23cdmSenior Engineer, iPod Platform Group
07:05.29sorphink
07:07.21sorphin" Manages the relationship between Apple and Hewlett-Packard as related to HP's acquisition of iPods for resale as iPod+HP."
07:09.00cdmbed time for me.
07:09.02cdmcya
07:29.19T0mWgetting too old for these constant all-nighters
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14:07.48chouimatmorning
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14:58.16ade|deskafternoon all
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15:14.08sorphinade|desk: wotcher
15:32.02CosmicPenguinI know a guy, who is about 6-4, 240, spends all of his days hunting and fishing when he's not the facilities manager for a major company
15:32.24CosmicPenguinAnd he took the day off so he could watch continuing coverage of the Hugens landing on NASA TV
15:32.32sorphinCosmicPenguin: heh
15:32.42prpplaguehey anyone using dropbear ssh client?
15:33.14CosmicPenguinnope
15:33.26sorphinnot currently, but have used it once
15:33.29CosmicPenguinfully leaded ssh here
15:34.10prpplaguejust wondering how well it works, plus how functional it is with the tinylogin stuff from bb
15:34.33sorphinah
15:36.13sorphin<PROTECTED>
15:39.00CosmicPenguinI havne't heard complaints
15:41.18kergoth`zzzprpplague: dropbear's server works well.  dropbear's client leaves a bit to be desired.  i cant even ssh into my machines, as it says it doesnt support the necessary ciphers
15:42.28prpplaguekergoth: ahh
15:42.44pb_morning kergoth
15:42.48kergothmorning
15:43.29CosmicPenguinIts a glorious morning, the birds are singing, the bees are trying to have sex with them, as is my understanding
15:43.42prpplaguekergoth: our little console app has the telnet code from bb for connectivity, gonna have to yank it and replace it with a pipe so we can use ssh
15:45.23sorphinCosmicPenguin: freak
15:45.24kergothah
15:45.32sorphinpb_: mornin mate
15:45.39pb_hey sorphin
15:46.10sorphinpb_: things well?
15:46.24pb_yep, pretty good.  still looking for new offices.
15:48.39CosmicPenguinWhen you sit back and think about it, its pretty damn impressive that we can pull off this space stuff
15:50.30sorphinCosmicPenguin: unless you're one of those people that think the moon landing was fake (i'm not one of em tho)
15:51.55CosmicPenguinWell, if you're one of those people, you're not even connected to the internet for fear that the government will track and kill you for knowing the truth
15:53.39prpplaguekergoth: so compatibility wise, probably better to use openssh client?
15:54.15kergothprpplague: i'd say so, but then you're pulling in openssl. :\
15:54.37CosmicPenguinYeah, its more loaded
15:54.52CosmicPenguinbut, if you happen to need openssl for any other reason, then its less painful
15:55.41CosmicPenguinI still fit it on my thin client image in 16MB
15:55.48CosmicPenguincompressed, though
15:56.15prpplaguewell i'm trying to free up space as well, so adding stuff in is a problem
15:56.23kergothwe used openssh in the old OZ's on the 5500.  16mb of flash there too
15:56.50prpplaguekergoth: only got 4mb on the unit i'm working with
15:57.01kergoththats a problem
15:57.09prpplaguekergoth: using compress ramdisk
15:57.17CosmicPenguinAt that point, you have to ask your self if you really need ssh
15:57.25prpplaguekergoth: which expands out to about 7.8mb
15:57.48kergoththere are other ssh implementations you can look into
15:57.50kergothlike lsh
15:57.57kergothhavent played with them much myself
15:58.07prpplaguekergoth: yea, i had a bitch of a time getting lsh to work
15:58.16prpplaguekergoth: might give it another try
15:59.56Russhey prpplague
16:00.04Russwhat code in particular were you looking for?
16:00.36prpplagueRuss: that jtag mtd driver
16:00.47prpplagueRuss: how goes it?
16:01.00prpplagueRuss: didn't get washed about in that rain storm didya?
16:02.13prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'm surprised that i haven't been asked for one of our custom jtag dongles
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16:11.28sorphinjacques: moin
16:11.55jacquesmorning sorphin :-)
16:12.06sorphinjacques: how's things mr miata?
16:12.39jacquesno income is a drag, but I'm keeping busy at least
16:12.46sorphinjacques: no income?
16:12.55jacquesno job right now
16:13.18sorphin:-(
16:13.26sorphinjacques: no leads?
16:13.47jacquesI applied for a university job but didn't get it
16:13.59jacqueswill start looking in earnest soon
16:15.10sorphinnod
16:23.38Russgive those to prpplague when he gets back, k?
16:23.41RussI need to go
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16:24.39cdmmorning.
16:30.54kergothbleh
16:39.54T`|Helimoin..
16:40.22T`|Helikergoth: hater target for today is lunch?
16:42.23T`|Helioh my.. forgot it was friday.. wooohoo
16:42.56sorphini hate autoget
16:43.32T`|Heliautoget in irc client?
16:43.37sorphincdm: moin chris
16:43.43sorphinT`: yes
16:44.26prpplagueRuss: sorry!!! stepped out to a meeting
16:44.34sorphinprpplague: too late
16:44.38sorphinprpplague: i have your files for you tho ;)
16:44.48prpplaguesorphin: ohh thanks
16:45.10sorphinaccept
16:45.16sorphinthere's a 2nd file
16:46.56sorphinthere ya go hillbilly
16:47.02prpplaguesorphin: thanks
16:47.20sorphinprpplague: russ just sent em to me, and my autoget got em, i wasn't even at my desk, heh
16:47.43prpplaguesorphin: hehe, you know......, you always call me hillbilly, but i'm about as far from a redneck hillbilly as you can get
16:48.13T`|Heliprpplague: i guess he wants u to appreciate the irony :)
16:48.35sorphinprpplague: but you're in TX, and you used to work at a company that was in the middle of a ranch :P
16:48.42sorphinclose enough for me ;)
16:48.54sorphinbut if it bugs you, i can drop it
16:51.58prpplaguesorphin: don't mind it particularly, just i'm afraid other ppl are gonna start believing it since they don't know me as well as you do, hehe
16:52.14sorphinindeed
16:52.43sorphinprpplague: btw, how's donna doin, still sick?
16:55.14prpplaguesorphin: much better physical wise, just massivly home sick
16:55.20sorphin:(
16:55.30sorphinso what's the story, gonna take that gig in barbados?
16:55.46prpplaguesorphin: being here in the dallas area without friends and family is rough
16:55.59prpplaguesorphin: yea, gonna take it, still working on the $$ and schedule
16:56.10prpplaguei hate to leave aml, but......
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16:56.59sorphinprpplague: gotcha
16:57.07sorphinbut i guess ya gotta do what ya gotta do
16:57.28sorphinprpplague: did you see the link i pasted yesterday for the house we will prolly be getting?
16:57.52T`|Heliprpplague: what kinda job are u planning to take up in barbados?
16:58.16sorphinT`|Heli: he's gonna 0wn that country ;)
16:58.36sorphinall hail the mighty hillbilly and his army of POS equipment ;)
16:59.17T`|Helihaha, i wouldn't personally invest on buying an island country
17:00.20T`|Helibut i want to go visit some islands.. they have unique ecology and people.
17:00.48prpplagueT`|Heli: hehe yes they do
17:01.16T`|Heliprpplague: are u going to be into IT/CS job in barbados?
17:03.31prpplagueT`|Heli: yea
17:03.47prpplaguekinda like 1/2 IT 1/2 OSS advocate
17:04.06sorphinprpplague: just don't become their version of ESR :P
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17:05.22sorphinheh
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17:06.40sorphinandersee: moin mr andersen
17:17.55anderseesorphin: morning
17:42.58prpplaguesorphin: well that was cool
17:43.35prpplaguesorphin: 128x64 oled for $45
17:44.04prpplaguesorphin: problem is thats pretty expensive compared to regular lcd's plus its uses about 100mA
17:48.43prpplaguelordy lordy
17:48.47prpplaguethis code sucks
17:52.15prpplaguesorphin: think my response to the guy asking about arm7tdmu on linux-arm mailing list was ok?
17:58.41prpplaguehttp://www.nationnews.com/StoryView.cfm?Record=56895&Section=Local&Current=2005%2D01%2D14%2000%3A00%3A00
18:00.00sorphinprpplague: what response?
18:00.22sorphinprpplague: so how's the Oled look?
18:00.28prpplaguesorphin: nice
18:00.32prpplaguesorphin: very bright
18:00.49anderseeprpplague: I thought oleds were supposed to be uber low power
18:00.49sorphineasier for them to do colors w/ em than standard leds?
18:00.52prpplaguesorphin: basically a miniture version of the displays they use in vegas these days
18:00.58sorphinah
18:01.14prpplaguesorphin: they were playing 15fps video on it
18:01.20prpplaguesorphin: looks really nice
18:01.20sorphinheh
18:01.28sorphinprpplague: got a model #?
18:01.37prpplaguesorphin: not a released version
18:01.39prpplaguesorphin: oem
18:01.53prpplaguesorphin: about the same size as a biz card
18:02.13sorphina what?
18:02.19sorphinah
18:02.21sorphinn/m
18:02.25sorphinbrain isn't awake today
18:02.39sorphinprpplague: there any non-oems you know about? just wanna check one out
18:02.49prpplaguesorphin: not that i've seen
18:02.56prpplaguesorphin: we were considering it for a project
18:03.09prpplaguesorphin: but the power drain is still way too high for a handheld
18:03.16sorphinyeah
18:03.33sorphinmake a nice status on the front of a server tho ;)
18:03.43prpplaguesorphin: hehe yea
18:04.06prpplaguesorphin: donna mother was talking to alicia keys this morning at the hotel
18:04.11sorphinprpplague: who made these?
18:04.12sorphinah
18:04.13sorphincool
18:04.32prpplaguecompany called fema
18:04.39sorphink
18:05.06prpplaguehttp://www.femacorp.com/products/lcd/oled/default.asp
18:05.16prpplaguethey don't have the full color one up on the page yet
18:05.50sorphinnod
18:05.51prpplaguehttp://www.femacorp.com/flyers/OLED/OLED_flyer.html
18:06.36sorphincool
18:06.50sorphinprpplague: how they interface?
18:07.00sorphinuse the hitachi type?
18:07.06prpplaguesorphin: standard i/o
18:07.23prpplaguesorphin: yea, similiar
18:07.35prpplaguesorphin: almost identical to the 44780
18:07.53sorphinit's neat to play w/
18:07.55sorphinnod
18:08.03sorphinand it'll speak 44780
18:08.07sorphinbut i do serial
18:08.18sorphins/VFW/VFD/
18:09.34sorphinprpplague: have fun
18:17.54CosmicPenguinYo again
18:27.57markl__whats up
18:28.03kergoth~today
18:28.04ibotI don't know what today is, but it probably sucks.
18:28.10kergoth~botsnack
18:28.10ibotkergoth: thanks
18:34.54CosmicPenguinYou've taught that poor bot to be so cynical
18:50.09kergoth:)
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19:02.16sorphin~insult kergoth
19:02.24sorphinindeed
19:15.24CosmicPenguinLunch, huh
19:35.36sorphinmmm... chinese
19:40.20chouimatfuck!!! Bob is eating my chocolate cake
19:40.28sorphinuh
19:40.30sorphinok
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19:41.13chouimatsorphin: my cat
19:43.13sorphinright
19:44.26chouimatsorphin: I just get up to answer the phone and ....
19:45.40sorphinprpplague: and tamales :P
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20:02.51prpplagueTimRiker: hey
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20:09.33prpplaguesorphin: http://www.elkgrovewireless.com/zipit/
20:15.08sorphinprpplague: uh.. sending me images won't realy help, since i'm ssh'd into the irc box
20:15.18prpplaguesorphin: oh
20:15.33sorphinwhat are they of?
20:15.38sorphinand btw, your sends failed
20:15.39prpplaguesorphin: well it shouldn't have been just an image
20:15.43sorphinωνω DCC Unable to create connection: Interrupted system call
20:15.46prpplaguesorphin: yea i noticed
20:15.54prpplaguesorphin: hehe you don't want to know
20:15.57sorphinand it's not my end
20:15.59prpplaguesorphin: you check that url
20:16.06prpplaguesorphin: yea it was on mine
20:16.22sorphincute
20:16.28sorphinso what are the images?
20:17.50prpplaguesorphin: hehe, cats prep'd for cooking
20:18.14prpplaguesorphin: guess what, it looks like the zipit is already running linux with bb
20:20.58jacqueszipit ?
20:21.19jacquesoops didn't look back far enough
20:23.56prpplagueandersee: looks like zipit is in violation of GPL
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20:30.35prpplagueandersee: looks like several owners of the zipit have made requests for source and have been ignored
20:36.24prpplagueandersee: looks like its using bb-1.00-pre1
20:38.14anderseeprpplague: hmm
20:38.22anderseeprpplague: whats a zipit?
20:38.40sorphinandersee: look at the link above
20:39.03sorphinor if you're lazy
20:39.05sorphinhttp://www.elkgrovewireless.com/zipit/
20:40.13prpplagueandersee: www.zipitwireless.com
20:40.38jacques<PROTECTED>
20:40.38jacques1775 West Hibiscus Blvd. Suite 200
20:40.38jacquesMelbourne, FL 32901
20:42.37anderseeprpplague: mind logging into http://bugs.busybox.net/
20:42.57anderseeprpplague: and posting a bug report with category "License Violations"
20:43.28anderseeI think I'm going to start using that, as using my email inbox isn't working very well
20:43.51prpplagueandersee: ok, sure, do you want me to wait untill i have one in hand a make the request for source myself?
20:44.04prpplagueandersee: or shall i just post what i know from the yahoo group?
20:44.23anderseeprpplague: your call.  If you can point to evidence others have made the effort that works for me.
20:44.36sorphin"Welcome to the Hall of Shame"
20:44.44prpplagueandersee: ok i'll add the info
20:45.06anderseethx
20:47.20prpplagueandersee: hehe how would you rate the severity?
20:47.38anderseenormal I guess
20:48.03prpplaguethe default options is "minor"
20:48.13prpplaguejust leave it at minor?
20:49.25anderseeperhaps "block"
20:49.29anderseeheheheh
20:49.53prpplaguehehe ok
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20:55.09prpplagueandersee: ok done, i dl'd the .bin firmware update from the zipitwireless page and check it out myself
20:55.24prpplagueandersee: does have the bb strings in it
20:56.58anderseeprpplague: cool, thx
20:57.10anderseeprpplague: http://bugs.busybox.net/view.php?id=14
20:58.19prpplagueandersee: think i'll order one to check it out
21:02.08anderseeprpplague: as you find more information, feel free to add details
21:02.42anderseeprpplague: i.e. incriminationg fimware disassemblies, strings, etc
21:03.25prpplagueandersee: well the .bin file is nothing more than concat'd kernel and gzip'd ramdisk
21:03.46prpplagueandersee: all i did was use unzip the ramdisk and mounted it
21:03.51prpplagueandersee: and there it wa
21:03.52prpplaguewas
21:05.06anderseeprpplague: could you include that
21:05.43anderseeprpplague: having that all detailed one one page will make it easier for me to point the finger of blame
21:05.55anderseeprpplague: and save me from having to repeat the effort later
21:05.59prpplagueandersee: you want me to include the .bin or the ramdisk?
21:06.16anderseeprpplague: a logfile of what steps you followed
21:06.18anderseei.e.
21:06.23anderseewget http://blah/
21:06.39prpplagueahh, ok,
21:06.40anderseedd if=foo of=bar skip=x
21:06.47anderseeetc
21:08.14anderseei.e. when I wrote my original nasty letter to Linksys, I included the output from -- http://codepoet.org/linksys.sh
21:11.33TimRikerprpplague: how much ram/flash is in the zipit? looks to be a arm7tdmi with mmu
21:12.11prpplagueTimRiker: not sure, i'm just coming up to speed on it
21:12.23TimRikerprpplague: how big is the ramdisk when uncompressed?
21:12.29prpplagueTimRiker: a fellow toy hacker say my work on the pixter and asked for help
21:12.36prpplagueTimRiker: one sec
21:13.02jacqueshow many bullets does it hold?
21:13.02TimRikerare they silver bullets?
21:13.14prpplagueTimRiker: 3.9mb
21:13.56jacques4MB ramdisk... maybe 16MB RAM ?
21:14.00TimRikeris there a /linuxrc so we know it's a ramdisk or might it be mtd?
21:15.28prpplagueno linuxrc
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21:16.39prpplagueTimRiker: the fstab entry does show that / is on /dev/ram
21:17.42TimRikerprpplague: I'll accept that.
21:17.53TimRikerprpplague: uclibc?
21:18.04anderseeTimRiker: downloading and checkin now
21:18.13anderseehalf downloaded
21:18.28TimRikerprpplague: add a wiki page on elinux with a ls-lR.txt please. ;-)
21:18.37anderseewill add notes to http://bugs.busybox.net/view.php?id=14 as I find details
21:19.00TimRikerandersee: aw... try the wiki. it's fun. ;-)
21:20.26prpplagueTimRiker: ok will do, give me a few
21:23.34prpplaguelordy i have more things to hack in the last 6 months than i've had in the 5 years i worked for abcs
21:24.43prpplagueTimRiker: how you want that listing? just upload it and add a dl link?
21:26.11anderseeprpplague: whichever
21:27.50prpplagueTimRiker: http://www.elinux.org/wiki/ZipIt?action=show
21:28.37prpplagueandersee: added the same to the bug report
21:28.41anderseeprpplague: thx
21:28.54prpplagueandersee: np, anything i can do to help
21:29.17anderseeprpplague: what offsets are you using to split the rom
21:30.00prpplagueandersee: one sec, let me get them
21:30.06jacquesI bet they're using GPL code in their IM app
21:31.42anderseeprpplague: seems they have staticly linked busybox
21:31.55prpplagueandersee: yea i noticed that
21:31.58prpplagueandersee: no libs
21:37.33TimRikerprpplague: file   a binary for me?
21:37.52TimRikermight be ucLinux even though they have an mmu.
21:47.23prpplaguehehe
21:47.35prpplagueTimRiker: you want the .bin or the ramdisk?
21:58.15anderseeprpplague: I don't yet see how one extracts anything useful from the .bin
21:58.55prpplagueandersee: yea, it looks like the kernel and ramdisk were extracted via jtag after flashing the unit
21:59.12prpplagueandersee: there is a yahoo group with detailed info
21:59.33prpplaguehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/
22:01.12anderseeprpplague: seem I'd have to join yahoo to see anything
22:01.29prpplagueandersee: yea
22:01.52prpplagueandersee: i hate that about yahoo groups
22:03.34prpplagueandersee: hehe
22:03.59prpplagueandersee: i have a through away yahoo id for that stuff
22:04.08prpplagues/through/throw
22:04.09prpplaguehehe
22:06.22anderseeprpplague: when I need to throw away email adder, I use something like 'sudo adduser --gecos "" --disabled-password `pwgen 8 1`'
22:06.41anderseeprpplague: and delete the account as soon as the validation email arrives
22:06.45prpplaguehehe
22:10.39prpplagueandersee: ahh, i just spoke to someone about the .bin
22:11.14anderseeprpplague: and...
22:11.21prpplagueandersee: aparently they capture the communication during an update
22:11.31prpplagueandersee: the .bin is suppose to be encrypted
22:11.46prpplagueandersee: i'll get more info and post as i can
22:11.51anderseeprpplague: .bin is probably xor'd or something silly
22:11.56prpplagueandersee: yea
22:12.15prpplagueandersee: that would be my guess based on the level of difficulty on the roofs
22:12.17prpplaguerootfs
22:13.18prpplaguei wonder what this one has in it - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00012BVGO/ref=pd_sbs_e_1/104-2713655-8807155?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846
22:17.40prpplagueandersee: well i just ordered one
22:17.57prpplagueandersee: so as soon as i get one i'll check the box for source and or coupon
22:24.24kergothandersee: http://hyperion.kergoth.com/dl/dyn-ldconfig.patch
22:28.27TimRikerprpplague: post the url to the .bin on the wiki? or steps to get it?
22:32.06anderseekergoth: use http://bugs.uclibc.org/ to be sure I don't lose the patch, k?
22:32.11kergothandersee: k
22:32.57anderseethx
22:35.01kergothandersee: what bts is that?
22:36.00anderseekergoth: mantis -- http://www.mantisbt.org/
22:37.27kergothah, cool
22:58.24CosmicPenguinstop asking
23:12.11CosmicPenguinOk - reasons why a count on a semaphore would be -1
23:12.30CosmicPenguinAre there any other sane reasons other then dumb user error?

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