| 00:00.12 | jacques | cool |
| 00:00.55 | jacques | don't see Alchemy on that roadmap :-) |
| 00:01.29 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: heh - yeah |
| 00:01.36 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: different division |
| 00:01.42 | jacques | ah |
| 00:02.17 | CosmicPenguin | The Alchemy and Geode are in the Connectivity Group |
| 00:02.56 | jacques | do you work on both of those? |
| 00:03.03 | sorphin | aka the CosmicPenguin Group |
| 00:03.42 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: right now I'm working with the Geodes |
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| 00:13.35 | sorphin | Geode Schmeode |
| 00:13.53 | CosmicPenguin | hey! Thats the new code name of our processor |
| 00:13.56 | CosmicPenguin | how did you know? :) |
| 00:14.06 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:14.18 | sorphin | figures |
| 00:14.31 | CosmicPenguin | I would pay a ton to see our CEO get up at CES an announce the brand new "Geode Schmeode" |
| 00:14.42 | sorphin | indeed |
| 00:17.22 | sorphin | aka i talk to the routers via a cgi script and display firewall counters in realtime, etc |
| 00:40.28 | CosmicAtWeekend | later folks |
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| 02:25.36 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 02:26.16 | kergoth | hey |
| 02:27.08 | prpplague | kergoth: yo! |
| 02:27.16 | prpplague | kergoth: whats up dude? |
| 02:27.23 | prpplague | kergoth: sorry i sounded cross today |
| 02:27.27 | kergoth | nada, working on the bitbake rewrite |
| 02:27.29 | prpplague | s/i/if |
| 02:27.46 | prpplague | boss is on my ass and i didn't feel well |
| 02:42.04 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/make/busybox.mk: 1.0 |
| 02:42.18 | prpplague | TimRiker: hey hey |
| 02:42.26 | prpplague | TimRiker: whats cookin? doing some tuxing? |
| 02:42.41 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/busybox.config: 2.6 module support |
| 02:42.42 | jacques | he's bringing tux up to 2.6.10 speed |
| 02:42.47 | prpplague | lovely |
| 02:42.52 | jacques | ya |
| 02:43.00 | prpplague | i've been tinkering with my tux life support board lately |
| 02:43.11 | prpplague | testing around for my pixter stuff |
| 02:43.22 | |TimRiker | prpplague: yep. got an initial 2.6.10 up. working on modutils now. |
| 02:43.35 | prpplague | lovely |
| 02:43.55 | prpplague | |TimRiker: see your old boss doing a new startup |
| 02:45.21 | |TimRiker | which? |
| 02:45.41 | |TimRiker | hmm. keep getting mod version not matching kernel version. humph. |
| 02:45.52 | prpplague | ceo lineo |
| 02:46.12 | prpplague | oops sorry |
| 02:46.20 | prpplague | TimRiker: my mistake, its snapgear ceo |
| 02:46.41 | prpplague | TimRiker: don't know why i was thinking lineo, must be the drugs |
| 02:47.20 | prpplague | |TimRiker: http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/article053/embedded-fab-four.jpg |
| 02:47.36 | |TimRiker | =) |
| 02:48.14 | prpplague | sounds like a nice conference to attend |
| 02:49.01 | andersee | heheh |
| 02:49.18 | andersee | someone needs to give Rick a better camera phone |
| 02:50.16 | prpplague | hehe |
| 02:50.28 | |TimRiker | andersee: =) you should ask yourself if you really want that. ;-) |
| 02:50.28 | prpplague | how was the XIP presentation? |
| 02:50.45 | |TimRiker | cool cool. useful only if you need it though. |
| 02:52.04 | prpplague | like to know more about xip |
| 02:53.21 | |TimRiker | the arm XIP stuff is included with 2.6.10 |
| 02:53.32 | |TimRiker | well, the kernel piece anyway. |
| 02:53.32 | prpplague | |TimRiker: don't suppose greg said anything more about the pixter dev? |
| 02:53.41 | prpplague | |TimRiker: yea thats what i was just reading |
| 02:53.45 | prpplague | |TimRiker: 2.6.11 |
| 02:53.55 | |TimRiker | prpplague: nope. just looked at the web site and said it look like fun. |
| 02:54.29 | prpplague | hehe |
| 02:54.31 | prpplague | oh well |
| 02:54.35 | |TimRiker | prpplague: huh? it's in the 2.6.10 changelog |
| 02:55.01 | [g2] | Ok so who are the fab-four in the picture ? |
| 02:55.03 | prpplague | |TimRiker: just reading off the slides, says that not all the changes are available until 2.6.11 |
| 02:55.14 | prpplague | [g2]: left to right |
| 02:55.36 | prpplague | [g2]: greg ungere, andersee , bird, and |TimRiker |
| 02:55.52 | [g2] | who's bird ? |
| 02:56.10 | |TimRiker | ~ # insmod /lib/modules/2.6.10-tux1/kernel/drivers/block/loop.ko |
| 02:56.12 | |TimRiker | Using /lib/modules/2.6.10-tux1/kernel/drivers/block/loop.ko |
| 02:56.12 | |TimRiker | insmod: kernel-module version mismatch |
| 02:56.12 | |TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.12 | |TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.24 | |TimRiker | [g2]: tim bird. was lineo cto before me. |
| 02:56.30 | prpplague | [g2]: chairman of celf |
| 02:56.33 | prpplague | iirc |
| 02:56.41 | |TimRiker | prpplague: yep. |
| 02:56.48 | [g2] | cool, thx |
| 02:57.01 | |TimRiker | prpplague: ah. sounds possible. |
| 02:57.14 | [g2] | andersee, I told you you're an Open-Source rock-star :) |
| 02:57.17 | |TimRiker | prpplague: the tests I did with kernel and user xip were with 2.4.x |
| 02:58.09 | jacques | insmod -f ? |
| 02:59.59 | |TimRiker | insmod: Not configured to support old kernels |
| 03:02.23 | |TimRiker | andersee: some magic to getting modutils in bb working with a 2.5.x kernel? |
| 03:02.28 | |TimRiker | er 2.6.x |
| 03:04.20 | |TimRiker | anyone using bb 1.00 modutils on 2.6.x ? |
| 03:04.51 | jacques | yes, lots |
| 03:05.09 | |TimRiker | any thoughts on what my issue is? |
| 03:06.01 | jacques | hmm, I'm checking something - I was pretty sure we were using it in openslug but now I'm not so sure |
| 03:06.26 | jacques | I do know it's supposed to work |
| 03:06.43 | jacques | checking something else |
| 03:07.13 | |TimRiker | well, there is a config option in bb 1.00 for it, and I do have it turned on. |
| 03:07.44 | |TimRiker | lsmod gives me: lsmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 03:08.21 | jacques | CONFIG_INSMOD=y |
| 03:08.21 | jacques | CONFIG_FEATURE_2_4_MODULES=y |
| 03:08.21 | jacques | CONFIG_FEATURE_2_6_MODULES=y |
| 03:08.55 | |TimRiker | I tried with 2_4 on and off. 2_6 is on. neither works. |
| 03:08.58 | jacques | busybox lsmod on openslug works |
| 03:09.10 | [g2] | with glibc |
| 03:09.10 | jacques | looks ugly, but works |
| 03:09.16 | |TimRiker | jacques: what kernel version? I'm 2.6.10 |
| 03:09.21 | jacques | 2.6.9 |
| 03:09.22 | [g2] | 2.6.9 |
| 03:09.28 | jacques | [g2], does it not work with uclibc ? |
| 03:09.32 | |TimRiker | hmm. I'm uClibc |
| 03:09.48 | jacques | # CONFIG_FEATURE_INSMOD_VERSION_CHECKING is not set |
| 03:09.52 | |TimRiker | 0.9.27 |
| 03:09.54 | [g2] | actually it does |
| 03:10.12 | jacques | CONFIG_FEATURE_INSMOD_KSYMOOPS_SYMBOLS=y |
| 03:10.12 | jacques | # CONFIG_FEATURE_INSMOD_LOADINKMEM is not set |
| 03:10.12 | jacques | CONFIG_FEATURE_INSMOD_LOAD_MAP=y |
| 03:10.13 | jacques | CONFIG_FEATURE_INSMOD_LOAD_MAP_FULL=y |
| 03:10.17 | jacques | that's all of them |
| 03:10.17 | [g2] | I build uclibc last week to test the ipkg fix which worked |
| 03:10.29 | file | ohhhhhhhh sorphin? |
| 03:10.43 | [g2] | and the Intel ixp ethernet driver *must* have loaded |
| 03:11.10 | jacques | [g2], one thing I notice on openslug tho - the insmod is not bb |
| 03:11.26 | [g2] | module-init-tools |
| 03:11.28 | |TimRiker | CONFIG_INSMOD=y is the only INSMOD entry I have in my bb .config. |
| 03:11.34 | kergoth | should remove module-init-tools from the distro and/or machine .conf. dont need it |
| 03:11.36 | |TimRiker | jacques: bb 1.00 or snapshot? |
| 03:12.26 | jacques | BusyBox v1.00 (2004.11.26-05:05+0000) multi-call binary |
| 03:12.26 | |TimRiker | jacques: libc? |
| 03:12.43 | [g2] | kergoth, you're saying that module-init-tools can go bye-bye for Openslug ? |
| 03:13.00 | kergoth | [g2]: why not using busybox? you only actually need module-init-tools-depmod |
| 03:13.01 | jacques | 2.3.2-cvs-somethingorither |
| 03:13.04 | kergoth | s/using/use/ |
| 03:13.38 | [g2] | yeah, but that depends on module-init-tools last I checked |
| 03:13.44 | jacques | glibc_2.3.2+cvs20040726.bb |
| 03:13.46 | kergoth | it shouldnt. |
| 03:14.09 | jacques | water boiling - biab |
| 03:14.26 | |TimRiker | jacques: ah. not enough space for glibc here. |
| 03:14.59 | |TimRiker | jacques: when I turned 2.4 kernel support on as well, then I get those other insmod options. trying again... |
| 03:15.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:21.07 | jacques | yeah I wasn't suggesting we run glibc on the tux :-) I didn't even want to run it on the slug but there was a bug in ipkg with uclibc and we switched |
| 03:23.38 | jacques | with all the arm changes going in these days, 2.6.11 is gonna be real interesting |
| 03:24.42 | |TimRiker | jacques: taint checking on? |
| 03:24.52 | jacques | looking |
| 03:25.08 | jacques | CONFIG_FEATURE_CHECK_TAINTED_MODULE=y |
| 03:25.19 | |TimRiker | I had it off. trying with it on. |
| 03:25.45 | jacques | cound 2.6.10 have changed something relevant? |
| 03:25.51 | jacques | could |
| 03:26.47 | |TimRiker | perhaps. |
| 03:27.03 | jcrouse | Ohh... spam from the department of notification |
| 03:27.09 | jcrouse | Thats an important department |
| 03:32.04 | |TimRiker | still no workie |
| 03:32.18 | jacques | :-( |
| 03:32.36 | kergoth | heh, should add shannon to oe :) </shameless plug> |
| 03:35.27 | jacques | aha |
| 03:35.38 | jacques | I found something I had been wondering about at least :-) |
| 03:35.52 | jacques | bb gzip cannot do "gzip foo bar" |
| 03:36.05 | jacques | it corrupts the resulting files |
| 03:36.22 | jacques | apparently they are well aware of it tho |
| 03:36.58 | jacques | wow I've hit like 5 of these: http://busybox.net/lists/busybox/2005-January/013509.html |
| 03:45.45 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/busybox.config: cleanup |
| 03:52.44 | jacques | well I can't find anyone else having that problem on the bb ml or its bug tracker :-\ |
| 04:26.33 | |TimRiker | jacques: the gzip on multiple files? I've seen that bug before. Don't know if anybody has worked on it. |
| 04:37.48 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/target_skeleton/ (linuxrc etc/fstab): add sysfs |
| 04:38.32 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/busybox.config: no large files, no large disks |
| 04:39.09 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/linux-2.6.10-tux1.patch: modprobe broken, go static |
| 04:41.17 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/busybox.config: eep, want shadow |
| 04:43.34 | andersee | jacques: I thought I'd fixed that gzip problem |
| 04:43.43 | andersee | jacques: oh well |
| 04:44.17 | |TimRiker | andersee: wanna take a look at my modprobe problem? ;-) |
| 04:44.30 | andersee | what problem is that? |
| 04:45.17 | |TimRiker | bb 1.00 + uclibc 0.9.27 + kernel 2.6.10 on arm == modprobe/insmod don't |
| 04:46.12 | |TimRiker | can't see to create a config that works. this is the state of the tux buildroot at the moment. |
| 04:46.46 | |TimRiker | I just converted the kernel build over to static to work around it, |
| 04:47.18 | andersee | what busybox module related config options were enabled? |
| 04:48.00 | |TimRiker | # CONFIG_FEATURE_2_4_MODULES is not set |
| 04:48.00 | |TimRiker | CONFIG_FEATURE_2_6_MODULES=y |
| 04:48.00 | |TimRiker | CONFIG_LSMOD=y |
| 04:48.00 | |TimRiker | CONFIG_MODPROBE=y |
| 04:48.00 | |TimRiker | CONFIG_RMMOD=y |
| 04:48.01 | |TimRiker | # CONFIG_FEATURE_CHECK_TAINTED_MODULE is not set |
| 04:48.40 | |TimRiker | oh and: |
| 04:48.47 | |TimRiker | CONFIG_INSMOD=y |
| 04:49.16 | andersee | was modules.dep installed and properly formed? |
| 04:50.13 | |TimRiker | should that matter for insmod too? |
| 04:50.32 | andersee | only for modprobe |
| 04:50.47 | |TimRiker | yeah. insmod dies too. |
| 04:51.04 | andersee | hmm |
| 04:51.18 | andersee | dunno, with 2.6, insmod is pretty trivial |
| 04:53.14 | |TimRiker | winder is still 2.4 I'm guessing? |
| 04:53.28 | andersee | yeah |
| 04:53.40 | andersee | just plugging it into the kvm to revive it |
| 04:53.52 | andersee | might as well put a 2.6 kernel on it |
| 04:53.58 | |TimRiker | converting loop.o back to a module so you can test it. |
| 04:55.05 | CIA-6 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/linux-2.6.10-tux1.patch: loop is a module so you can see it's broken |
| 04:56.38 | |TimRiker | wish I could get uClibc to stop asking me what platform I am when it configures. |
| 04:57.18 | andersee | TimRiker: just adjust the uClibc .config to specify le arm... |
| 04:58.03 | |TimRiker | andersee: I copy the current .config out and it seems to not save that entry. |
| 05:00.59 | |TimRiker | got TARGET_arm=y and TARGET_ARCH="arm" in the config |
| 05:01.32 | |TimRiker | well, must sleep. |
| 05:01.45 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.48 | andersee | night |
| 05:02.28 | |TimRiker | buildroot is setup if you want to check it out and try it. |
| 05:20.56 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 09:12.48 | T0mW | !#$!^!$% docking crap with K3B, stupid stupid stupid crap |
| 09:13.27 | T0mW | only way to get a tiled view back again is to delete the rc file |
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| 16:48.38 | jacques | can someone please set the buildroot to download from ANYWHERE other than aleron.dl.sourceforge.net ? |
| 16:48.47 | jacques | 1017.39B/s |
| 16:48.53 | jacques | typical for that site |
| 16:49.17 | jacques | 733.44B/s |
| 16:49.33 | kergoth | heh, ouch |
| 16:50.53 | jacques | that's gotta be the worst sf mirror on the planet |
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| 19:21.48 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
| 19:22.28 | pb_ | g'day plague |
| 19:22.47 | file[laptop] | hi |
| 19:29.12 | prpplague | pb_: whats cookin? |
| 19:29.39 | prpplague | oops, gotta run, boss lady needs to go to the store |
| 19:30.06 | file[laptop] | yes, no, maybe I don't know |
| 19:30.09 | file[laptop] | can you repeat the question? |
| 19:34.13 | pb_ | prpplague: nada. spent most of the afternoon upgrading network systems at the office. |
| 19:34.43 | pb_ | discovered that the r8169 driver in current kernels doesn't work too well. |
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| 21:16.12 | T0mW | jacques: aleron works good on this side of the mountains |
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| 22:06.15 | CIA-5 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/uClibc.config: try to stop uClibc prompts |
| 22:10.17 | jacques | `ls`, I notice buildroot-tux is still using uclibc snap - do we want to use 0.9.27 instead ? |
| 22:13.38 | CIA-5 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/TODO: old stuff anyway |
| 22:16.36 | `ls` | jacques: huh? I have 0.9.27 here. checking. |
| 22:17.39 | `ls` | sure enough. changing... |
| 22:21.24 | CIA-5 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/ (make/uclibc.mk Makefile): real 0.9.27 |
| 22:31.43 | CIA-5 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/skel.tar: add /sys |
| 22:33.18 | `ls` | ibot: botmail andersee: a complete rebuild fixed my insmod issue. not sure what the deal was. |
| 22:33.29 | jacques | yay |
| 22:33.51 | TimRiker | ~botmail andersee: a complete rebuild fixed my insmod issue. not sure what the deal was. |
| 22:34.05 | TimRiker | ibot: 1+1 |
| 22:34.06 | ibot | i heard 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 22:34.27 | TimRiker | ~botmail for andersee a complete rebuild fixed my insmod issue. not sure what the deal was. |
| 22:34.36 | TimRiker | finally. |
| 22:35.19 | file[laptop] | with better parts! |
| 22:36.52 | TimRiker | we can make hime better, faster, stronger |
| 22:37.04 | file[laptop] | exactly |
| 22:57.19 | file | TimRiker: any update on Zipit madness? |
| 23:01.36 | TimRiker | file: nope. the told darren they'd release the sources, but has not happened. They have not replied to anyone else from what I can tell. |
| 23:01.50 | file | fun |
| 23:04.38 | CIA-5 | 03timriker * 10buildroot-tux/sources/linux-2.6.10-tux1.patch: back to modules, as they seem to work |
| 23:07.44 | TimRiker | pcmcia seems to be working, serial, display, need tuxphone and keyboard now. |
