| 00:05.46 | CosmicPenguin | God bless the suckworks and all who toil in anonymity to do something cool that their manager didn't want them doing |
| 00:05.53 | CosmicPenguin | heh - fruedian slip |
| 00:06.03 | CosmicPenguin | s/suckworks/skunkworks/ |
| 00:06.16 | CosmicPenguin | how ironical |
| 00:12.51 | bajan | bodda bing bodda bom, poof |
| 00:13.03 | prpplague | muhahahaa |
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| 02:12.15 | prpplague | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41374&item=6364401912&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 02:25.00 | prpplague | http://anyway.no-ip.org:8080/ep/44B0db/44B0db.htm |
| 02:25.13 | prpplague | that appears to be the development board used for the juicebox |
| 02:30.25 | file[laptop] | modified? |
| 02:30.33 | file[laptop] | I can't imagine the Juicebox has ethernet ;) |
| 02:31.56 | prpplague | file[laptop]: i didn't say it was the exact board |
| 02:32.10 | prpplague | i said it was the development board used for the juicebox |
| 02:32.19 | file[laptop] | would be cool if it had wifi... oh well |
| 02:39.37 | prpplague | mmm, this would be cool with a shell prompt - http://www.arm.com/markets/armpp/5520.html |
| 02:46.24 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 02:51.20 | prpplague | wow this watch is cool |
| 02:51.40 | prpplague | there is a uclinux dist available for it |
| 03:18.42 | jacques | prpplague, really? wow |
| 03:18.55 | jacques | if only it weren't so fugly |
| 03:33.26 | MonMotha | any TV signal gurus happen to be in here? I need to know if there are any dead giveaway type hints as to what an ATSC signal would show up as on a spectrum analyzer |
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| 15:02.11 | chouimat | morning |
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| 21:33.06 | fishhead | hey |
| 21:33.10 | fishhead | any m68k hackers here |
| 21:33.24 | fishhead | I got a old palm into serial bootstrap mode and don't know where to go from there |
| 21:33.35 | fishhead | also I just bought a palm t5 today for $399 and starting to get cold feet |
| 21:33.40 | fishhead | might take it back |
| 21:33.45 | fishhead | any linux based pda's around $400 |
| 22:16.27 | prpplague | fishhead: don't think there are any m68k hackers that normally hang here |
| 22:16.37 | prpplague | fishhead: sharp zaurus series |
| 22:17.05 | prpplague | fishhead: you could grab a sl-5500 on ebay pretty cheap |
| 22:17.13 | fishhead | I need new and fully extended warrenty |
| 22:18.28 | prpplague | oh, why is that? |
| 22:18.44 | fishhead | bad luck |
| 22:18.50 | fishhead | it saved me on my IIIxe when it died |
| 22:18.52 | fishhead | they wrote me a check |
| 22:18.59 | fishhead | I just never could decide on another one |
| 22:19.12 | prpplague | yea well probably not gonna happen with a pda plus loading linux |
| 22:20.10 | fishhead | so I should just stick with the t5 |
| 22:20.28 | prpplague | i could not say |
| 22:20.30 | fishhead | I doubt I really going to do much ircing on it so I guess lack of multitasking isn't that big of a problem |
| 22:20.35 | prpplague | depends on what you want to accomplish |
| 22:34.52 | fishhead | I dunno anymore |
| 22:34.56 | fishhead | i was happy with my b/w IIIxe |
| 22:39.49 | prpplague | fishhead: again it depends on what you want to do with the device |
| 22:40.04 | prpplague | fishhead: 99% of the ppl here never really use a pda as a pda |
| 22:40.39 | fishhead | ok |
| 22:40.48 | fishhead | thx this helps a lot :) more than you can realize |
| 22:41.30 | prpplague | np |
| 22:41.32 | prpplague | hehe |
| 22:41.43 | fishhead | I guess I could just vnc over to a full pc |
| 22:41.58 | prpplague | what is it you want to do? |
| 22:43.02 | fishhead | most of the time just do pda stuff |
| 22:43.05 | fishhead | keep notes, read docs |
| 22:43.09 | fishhead | and also play mp3s |
| 22:43.11 | fishhead | this is for work |
| 22:43.18 | fishhead | but at home at night I might want a bedside term |
| 22:43.23 | fishhead | I guess vnc could do this for palm |
| 22:43.58 | fishhead | I guess in some ways I wanted a small laptop but I guess that's not going to be reality |
| 22:44.02 | prpplague | yea, you probably need to ask over in #handhelds.org |
| 22:44.02 | fishhead | unless I spend way more |
| 22:44.08 | prpplague | this is probably the wrong channel |
| 22:44.23 | fishhead | ok well I will hang around here for webpal, embedded x86 and m68k stuff though |
| 22:44.24 | fishhead | :) |
| 22:44.24 | prpplague | fishhead: you looked at the sharp zaurus series? |
| 22:44.25 | fishhead | thx again |
| 22:44.26 | file[laptop] | there is a laptop available for $498... |
| 22:44.30 | fishhead | yes but they are very expensive |
| 22:44.33 | fishhead | laptop is too big |
| 22:44.39 | fishhead | wouldn't be able to use for work |
| 22:44.48 | prpplague | file[laptop]: which laptop is that? |
| 22:44.54 | file[laptop] | http://www.linare.com/ladbs200.php |
| 22:45.16 | fishhead | I think I am going to convert what's left of the pieces of my 486-100 laptop |
| 22:45.21 | fishhead | into an embedded controller |
| 22:45.35 | fishhead | would uclinux be better for this, would it free up more of the 8 meg of ram |
| 22:46.16 | prpplague | x86 is more suited towards standard linux |
| 22:46.28 | fishhead | yes I know that is true normally |
| 22:46.45 | prpplague | file[laptop]: yea just read about that |
| 22:46.59 | prpplague | fishhead: and why not this time? |
| 22:47.02 | chouimat | prpplague: loosy job #6 http://ulyx.ath.cx/whale.jpg |
| 22:47.02 | fishhead | 8 meg ram |
| 22:47.10 | fishhead | and going to be acting as some robot controller etc |
| 22:47.11 | prpplague | fishhead: so? |
| 22:47.24 | prpplague | 8meg is plenty of ram for linux |
| 22:47.36 | prpplague | i've run full linux on low as 4 |
| 22:47.44 | fishhead | I have run on 1.6 |
| 22:47.46 | fishhead | beat that :P |
| 22:47.53 | fishhead | but didn't think it was the most efficient |
| 22:47.55 | prpplague | on x86? |
| 22:47.59 | fishhead | also doesn't uclinux have realtime capabilities |
| 22:48.02 | fishhead | yes |
| 22:48.05 | fishhead | old laptop |
| 22:48.10 | fishhead | hacked up a 1.1 kernel |
| 22:48.13 | fishhead | took 15 mins to boot |
| 22:48.18 | fishhead | 24 hrs to build kernel |
| 22:48.26 | fishhead | had to start it with swap=/blah |
| 22:48.30 | fishhead | to boot |
| 22:48.32 | prpplague | chouimat: cute |
| 22:48.41 | fishhead | hey chouimat :) |
| 22:48.44 | prpplague | fishhead: 4mb and linux works fine |
| 22:49.15 | prpplague | file[laptop]: that laptop isn;t available yet |
| 22:50.39 | file[laptop] | too bad |
| 23:00.55 | `ls` | prpplague: you read http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=bnews&Post=900 ? |
| 23:01.10 | `ls` | prpplague: looks like some JuiceBoxen have 8M ram. |
| 23:01.37 | `ls` | prpplague: hold REWIND and PLAY when you power up to get into the debug menu. |
| 23:02.34 | `ls` | http://www.amorphousmedia.net/juicebox/juicebox.htm has pictures for the rest of you'all |
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| 23:13.02 | prpplague | `ls`: cool |
| 23:13.07 | file[laptop] | andersee! |
| 23:13.29 | andersee | file[laptop]: afternoon |
| 23:13.38 | andersee | file[laptop]: how goes it? |
| 23:14.11 | file[laptop] | andersee: not too bad, you? |
| 23:14.34 | andersee | ok |
| 23:14.42 | andersee | feeling like I could use a nap |
| 23:14.47 | file[laptop] | naps are great |
| 23:15.00 | andersee | cept my wife is taking a nap, and I'm supposed to be watching the kids |
| 23:15.15 | file[laptop] | ah |
| 23:16.08 | prpplague | andersee: hehe , btdt |
| 23:20.16 | fishhead | whoa |
| 23:20.20 | fishhead | those are like $10 |
| 23:23.26 | prpplague | fishhead: where for $10? |
| 23:23.49 | fishhead | walmart clearance |
| 23:23.57 | fishhead | I am going to hit mine tomarrow or monday |
| 23:25.33 | prpplague | fishhead: i thought the clearance price was $20 |
| 23:25.58 | prpplague | `ls`: the juiceboxmmc accessory kit is actually a mmc kit |
| 23:26.10 | prpplague | `ls`: the lines for the sd interface aren;t used |
| 23:26.38 | fishhead | some people claimed down to $10 |
| 23:26.47 | fishhead | mabye I should take back my palm t5 and use this :P |
| 23:27.18 | prpplague | or a pixter :) |
| 23:42.59 | `ls` | prpplague: ahh. ok. change the comment? /me supposes he could... |
| 23:44.49 | `ls` | prpplague: I'd like to get at least one other to confirm the 8M ram version. I've tried 2 and they are both 2M ram. |
| 23:45.45 | prpplague | `ls`: yea, all three of mine are 2m |
| 23:45.45 | fishhead | ls what colors |
| 23:45.49 | fishhead | were they |
| 23:45.52 | fishhead | lime green one is 8 |
| 23:45.54 | `ls` | green and red |
| 23:46.06 | `ls` | my green one is 2 |
| 23:47.16 | fishhead | arm7tdmi is becoming the "m68k dragonball" of arm family |
| 23:48.15 | `ls` | heh |
| 23:49.03 | fishhead | I wish I could find someone that did m68k bootstrap |
| 23:49.07 | fishhead | speaking of m68k :/ |
