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00:12.09fishheadhttp://www.abitsettlement.com/ <-- if you got bit by a abit motherboard with bad capacitors http://www.abitsettlement.com/
00:21.49fishheadwtf for
00:22.06fishheadthat is very relivant to this channel
00:22.14fishheadthis problem was a major pc hardware disaster
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00:22.51fishheadprpp
00:22.53CosmicPenguinthe proverbial bad penny has returned
00:22.54fishheaddo you have any abit mb's
00:23.03fishheadyou might want to check this out before you leave the country
00:23.05chouimatCosmicPenguin: ?
00:23.28prpplaguefishhead: what??
00:23.29CosmicPenguinchouimat: poor attempt at humor
00:23.48fishheadprpp do you have any computer motherboards made by abit
00:23.51fishheada few yrs ago
00:23.55prpplagueno
00:23.56fishheadthey lost big class action
00:23.59fishheadthey replace your mb free
00:24.06fishheador pay you back for cost of replacing the bad caps
00:24.07fishheadthey used
00:24.36prpplaguefishhead: you act like i'll drop off the planet
00:24.55fishheadno but you won't be able to take advantage of this
00:25.01fishheadand I have a lot of friends that got bit by this
00:26.22prpplaguefishhead: why would i not be able to?
00:26.30prpplagueCosmicPenguin: you see this - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6460976065.html
00:26.34fishheadI don't think it's outside of us
00:27.12CosmicPenguinWOw
00:27.21CosmicPenguintolower('O')
00:27.36CosmicPenguinSounds like a barrel of fun
00:27.42CosmicPenguinbit pricy
00:27.52fishheadpenguin
00:27.53fishheadare you in usa ?
00:28.54CosmicPenguinThats what I'm told
00:29.53fishheaddid you get a juicebox yet ?
00:30.11fishheadthen again I guess since you work for amd
00:30.14CosmicPenguinno, and stop pinging me
00:30.20fishheadyou have tons of free geode devel boards
00:30.24fishheadand alchemy
00:30.31fishheadcosmic I only pinged you once
00:30.35fishheadto see if you had me on ignore
00:30.36fishheadcalm down
00:32.13fishheadoooooooooo
00:32.15fishheadthat reminds me
00:32.23fishheadany electronics hands on people around the pennsylvania area
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15:19.00CosmicPenguinWho made it Monday again?
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15:20.26pb_me
15:20.58prpplaguepb_: morning
15:21.10prpplaguepb_: just reading a post from you hehe
15:21.47pb_prpplague: heh
15:21.48pb_good morning
15:22.46prpplaguepb_: hey was it you that said you had used wpa_supplicant?
15:22.57pb_yeah
15:23.18CosmicPenguinwow
15:23.28prpplaguepb_: i got a linksys ap with wpa support, gonna try getting it up and running
15:23.29CosmicPenguinI messed up my .procmail - lost a ton of messages
15:23.30CosmicPenguinheh
15:23.41pb_prpplague: cool
15:23.46pb_it's pretty straightforward to set up
15:23.55prpplaguepb_: what kind of time frame did it take to get wpa_supplicant up and running?
15:24.09prpplaguepb_: i need wpa-psk with tjip
15:24.11prpplaguetkip
15:24.11pb_with the hostap driver, just a few minutes.
15:24.19prpplaguecool
15:24.43prpplaguepb_: i think the major issue will be some of our front end stuff is hardcoded for wlan-ng
15:24.59prpplaguepb_: which will need to be changed over to hostap
15:25.09pb_right
15:25.31pb_hostap is (for the most part) simpler than wlan-ng, so that shouldn't be too difficult.
15:25.31prpplaguepb_: did you use wpa_supplicant on arm?
15:25.41pb_yeah, both arm and x86
15:25.56prpplagueany gotchas on compiling for arm?
15:26.34pb_dunno.  I used oe.
15:26.58prpplaguepb_: hehe
15:27.26pb_I imagine you can get an .ipk from the familiar unstable feed, if you don't want to build it yourself.
15:27.47prpplaguepb_: yea, i need to intergrate it into our build
15:27.56prpplaguepb_: probably can just look at the oe build
15:28.21prpplaguei/give
15:28.39pb_right
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15:48.29CosmicPenguinOk - sylpheed has pissed me off for the last time
15:48.38CosmicPenguinI'm tired of jumping through hoops just to get MH folder support
15:50.00CosmicPenguinMaybe I'll just use mutt
15:51.55prpplaguesjhill: boo!
15:52.07prpplaguesjhill: hows your project going?
15:52.18prpplaguesjhill: did you decide which layout app to use?
15:59.18sjhillprpplague: that eaglecad looks good
16:00.28sjhillthe opencores.org website is so fricking slow
16:00.46sjhilli need to spec out my fpga now
16:01.29pb_CosmicPenguin: heh, use exmh.
16:01.32MonMothasjhill: you noticed?
16:01.41sjhillMonMotha: huh, what?
16:01.45MonMothataht opencores is slow
16:01.49sjhilloh
16:01.52sjhillyeah, why?
16:02.03MonMothaI was looking through it looking at DRAM controllers...I gave up after waiting over 2 minutes for a page
16:03.21sjhilli would love to know wth is going on
16:07.56prpplaguesjhill: lovely
16:08.14prpplagueMonMotha: did you find any good sdram controllers?
16:08.30prpplagueMonMotha: i've been considering a fpga based sdram controler for the pixter
16:09.09prpplagueMonMotha: to make a cart similiar to the xport
16:13.23MonMothaprpplague: there's a DDR SDRAM controller on opencores
16:13.30MonMothadidn't get a chance to look much at it really (See above)
16:13.51MonMothaI was actually looking for a FPDRAM controller though; this is for a much older system
16:14.10MonMothathat and I've got tons of FP DRAM sitting around :)
16:15.40prpplagueahh
16:16.23MonMothaI guess I could go with SDRAM, no reason not to with how cheap it is these days, and that would almost certainly get me wait state free operation of this machine
16:17.01prpplagueyea
16:19.14MonMothait's a 25 (or maybe even 20?) MHz Intel 960 that I decided I wanted to build a computer out of
16:19.44MonMothaI'm thinking I may build an external PMMU (there's actually various pieces of support for that on the 960) and try to (Eventually) run full linux on it
16:20.35prpplagueMonMotha: wow, didn't know that linux would work with a pmmu
16:21.19MonMothaI thought that a paged mmu was the basic requirement for linux
16:21.34MonMothadidn't need segmentation or any of that crap like Intel has :)
16:21.44prpplagueMonMotha: its but, i didn't know that it supported an external one
16:22.01prpplagues/it/it is
16:22.52prpplagueMonMotha: have you got an example of a system using an external mmu?
16:23.19MonMothaI don't see any reason it couldn't, as long as said MMU can perform all the needed functions, make sure that MMU settings can only be changed from supervisor mode, and supports some sort of exception upon a bad access
16:23.35MonMothaprpplague: supposedly people did it with the 960 back when they were semi-popular, though not with linux
16:24.05MonMothathe 960 actually has some support that's basically explicitly designed for an external MMU
16:24.15MonMothaI don't have my hardware ref guide handy right now...grr
16:25.34sjhillxilinx, altera, atmel
16:25.34MonMothaheh, you can get this as a PDF, but it's scanned and is like 20MB :)
16:25.40sjhilleeprom or sram or flash
16:25.52prpplaguesjhill: hehe
16:25.56MonMothasjhill: allow me to express my dislike for Xilinx's development tools (though their hardware's fine)
16:25.57prpplaguesjhill: lots of options
16:25.59sjhilllooks like i have a lot of reading and research to do
16:26.12sjhillMonMotha: what do you use?
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16:26.21sjhillallow me to be the first
16:26.29sjhill~ibot insult [sorphin]
16:26.29MonMothasjhill: at this point, I don't.  But I don't think it's possible to get worse than the Xilinx software :)
16:26.39sjhillooo, nice one
16:26.42prpplaguehehe
16:27.07prpplaguesjhill: there are lots of hardware options these days
16:27.14MonMothaover the course of like 4 weeks of use, it managed to eat our (relatively small) project no less than 3 times, requiring a restoration from a backup each time
16:27.16sjhilli need to interface with ttl stuff on one side
16:27.26sjhillouch
16:27.41MonMothathat and the sheer number of UI bugs and inconsistencies is amazing; it makes using Cadence look downright easy
16:28.08[sorphin]sjhill: whatever lackey
16:28.26MonMothathere's supposeldy a linux version, but I couldn't even get the installer to start.  It appears to just be the windows version linked against something like Winelib (but comercial)
16:28.45prpplaguesjhill: what are the memory requirements for your project?
16:28.46MonMothaand of course the Windows version is just the old Solaris software linked against a solaris compatibility layer
16:29.32MonMothathen there's the fact that their own graphical stuff (not writing Verilog or VHDL by hand, mind you) generates unsythesizable HDL
16:29.35sjhillprpplague: pretty much nill, it's a custom bridge
16:29.57prpplaguesjhill: why not make life easy and use one of the atmel sam series?
16:30.45prpplaguesjhill: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6348089357.html
16:31.16sjhillno
16:31.42prpplaguesjhill: need more memory?
16:31.43sjhilli'm pushing 32-bits of data and 32-bit addresses at 33MHz with up to 100MB/s
16:31.52sjhilli'd crush that thing
16:32.07prpplaguesjhill: oh a custom network bridge
16:32.34sjhilla proprietary bus to pci bus
16:32.47prpplagueahh
16:33.27prpplaguesjhill: gonna use the fpga as the main processor?
16:33.32sjhillyup yup
16:33.44prpplaguesjhill: ahh
16:33.53sjhilli'd like it to be transparent
16:34.04sjhillas much as possible
16:34.31prpplaguesjhill: then, imho ( for what its worth), i'd go with dram and flash
16:34.55prpplaguesjhill: dram is easy to implement, and a flash chip with cfi is simple to work with
16:35.02sjhillmy bad
16:35.20sjhillwhen i was talking eeprom, sram, flash, i was speaking about the fpga programming and such?
16:36.23prpplaguesjhill: ahh for the initial code download?
16:36.26sjhillmy understanding is that some fpga devices use sram to store their configuration
16:36.27sjhillyes yes
16:36.31prpplaguegotcha
16:36.44sjhillthis is so pathetic
16:36.58sjhilli have 2 EE degrees and i've been doing sw too long
16:37.03prpplaguesjhill:guess it would depend on size of the code and how often you would need to update it
16:37.08prpplaguesjhill: hehe
16:37.19sjhillwell, i'll be updating a lot i'm sure
16:37.34sjhilltrying to get a bridge chip to work right will be a real job
16:37.41prpplaguethen eeprom would be a beoych
16:38.18prpplaguesjhill: i'd use a flash with a plcc socket
16:38.45prpplaguesjhill: that way you could yank the chip and shove it into a programmer easy if you had to
16:38.56sjhillah
16:39.12sjhilli could buy multiple flash chips too for faster prototyping
16:39.16sjhilli like it
16:39.41prpplaguesjhill: and you can get plcc sockets with .1" headers for prototyping
16:40.25cbrakesjhill: if the CPU is outside the FPGA, you can program the FPGA from the CPU.  I think Uboot has support for this.
16:40.44sjhilli wasn't planning on a cpu
16:41.13sjhilli was hoping to implement the bridge all in the fpga
16:41.32sjhillam i being naive?
16:41.48MonMothayou're briding from a CPU to PCI, right? :)
16:42.05sjhillno
16:42.20MonMothawhat's on the other end of this bus bridge?
16:42.51prpplagueMonMotha: hehe, he'd have to kill you if he told you
16:42.58prpplaguesjhill: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?Ref=89815&Row=129196&Site=US
16:43.01sjhillcpu -> prop. bus -> my card with pci slot
16:43.04prpplaguesjhill: i've used those before
16:43.56sjhilli want my card to plug onto the prop. bus and give me a pci slot on the other side
16:44.37MonMothathat should let you program the FPGA from the CPU
16:44.55cbrakesjhill: should be doable, but supporting all the modes can get complex (bus mastering, etc).
16:45.29prpplaguesjhill: what kind of cards do you expect to support?
16:45.36sjhillmmm
16:45.46sjhillusb is my main interest
16:45.49MonMothawell, I'm off to lunch, then my last final
16:45.58sjhillgood luck MonMotha
16:46.01MonMothathanks
16:46.06prpplaguesjhill: ?? all this for usb?
16:46.10MonMothaoh, and you could just implement USB on the fpga directly
16:46.22MonMothaunless you have other objectives as well
16:46.36MonMothaanyway, later
16:46.44sjhillright, i plan on just doing usb first
16:46.51sjhillthen i'd like to do a pci bridge
16:47.26prpplaguesjhill: you might need to look at the cards you want to use, some cards contain x86 micro init codes
16:48.21prpplaguesjhill: you have similiar problems when implementing pci bus with arm processors
16:48.28prpplaguesjhill: like with the webpal
16:51.01cbrakesjhill: many PCI devices require the ability to write to main system memory, so typically the PCI bridge needs to take over and drive your proprietary CPU bus so it can access memory directly.  Thats the only big gotcha I can think of.
16:52.08sjhillgood to know
16:52.43sjhilli think i will cut my teeth on just doing a usb host controller
16:53.02sjhillthat should provide enough of a learning experience to see if i want to tackle a pci bridge
16:53.18sjhillso there is a usb core on opencores.org then?
16:54.12sjhilli researched usb chips yesterday
16:54.32sjhillbut i will still need fpga glue logic from my prop. bus to the usb chip
16:55.03sjhillthx for all the input guys
16:55.26cbrakesjhill: good luck -- let us know how it works out.
17:00.18sjhillwill do
17:20.32CosmicPenguinDid I mention today was crappy?
17:20.41sjhillno
17:20.47sjhillso, CosmicPenguin how is today?
17:21.13CosmicPenguinexcellent!  The birds are shining, the sun is singing
17:21.20sjhillheh
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17:41.09*** topic/#elinux is Embedded Linux || http://eLinux.org/ || cross compile, uClibc, busybox, tinylogin, handhelds, post-sale linux installs ;-), etc. || free embedded linux training at http://free-electrons.com/news/news.2004-09-28/en || see prpplague about custom holly-gates jtag dongles
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17:44.35CosmicPenguinhmmm... apple might buy tivo?
17:44.46CosmicPenguinWithout RTFAing, that sounds like a good thing
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18:08.35T0mWbirds are shining?
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18:58.53T0mWdarned threading libs on linux don't have debug symbols in them
18:59.13T0mWs/linux/mandrake/
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19:05.52T0mWBorland is so lame, they keep bringing out products and then abandon them.
19:13.46sjhillsounds like microsoft
19:13.58sjhillonly they screw you over a barrel first
19:14.46CosmicPenguinand thats not as enjoyable as you would think
19:18.04sjhill:)
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19:57.39prpplagueit also sounds like abcs
19:57.43prpplague~emulate abcs
19:57.44ibotselling used products as new isn't unethical!
19:59.44sjhilllol
20:01.01prpplague~emulate abcs
20:01.02iboti have great idea, lets sell buggy software and charge to fix it!!
20:02.51prpplague~emulate abcs
20:02.52ibotselling used products as new isn't unethical!
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20:12.03[sorphin]~emulate prpplague
20:12.04ibotthere is no place like barbados! there is no place like barbados!
20:12.53[sorphin]eek, it's file
20:12.57fileindeed
20:13.13[sorphin]file: already go to the voip thing?
20:13.17[sorphin]or is that still coming
20:13.27filea week to go.
20:13.28[sorphin]ah
20:26.35MonMotha~emulate monmotha
20:27.13MonMothaI guess ibot doesn't know me
20:32.25TimRikeribot: emulate MonMotha is <reply> I don't know how.
20:32.27ibotTimRiker: okay
20:32.33TimRiker~emulate MonMotha
20:32.34ibotI don't know how.
20:34.28[sorphin]~emulate TimRiker
20:34.29ibotACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!"
20:34.43[sorphin]sounds about right ;)
20:35.47CosmicPenguinwerks for me
20:36.14[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:36.15ibotD'Oh!
20:39.42[sorphin]literal emulate
20:39.46[sorphin]grr
20:39.52prpplague~literal emulate abcs
20:39.53ibot"emulate abcs" is "<reply>if we can't sell it for 500% markup we aren't interested! || <reply>selling used products as new isn't unethical! || <reply> i have great idea, lets sell buggy software and charge to fix it!!"
20:40.01[sorphin]ahh
20:40.08[sorphin]or statements
20:40.33prpplague~emulate ash
20:40.34ibotGood? Bad? I'm the one with the gun.
20:41.05[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:41.06ibotD'Oh!
20:41.10prpplaguethis my _Boom_ stick
20:41.11CosmicPenguin~emluate stewie
20:41.17[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:41.18ibotD'Oh!
20:41.20[sorphin]grr
20:41.22CosmicPenguinheh
20:41.26CosmicPenguinspell it right, dumbass
20:41.30[sorphin]it's not cycling
20:41.32[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:41.33ibotD'Oh!
20:41.40[sorphin]~literal emulate homer
20:41.41ibot"emulate homer" is "<reply> D'Oh! || <reply> mmmmmmmmm Donuts <drool>"
20:41.53CosmicPenguinMabye its the <drool>
20:41.57[sorphin]could be
20:42.12[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:42.13ibotD'Oh!
20:42.24prpplagueits not very random
20:42.29MonMothaibot emulate monmotha is <reply> DDR is gay!
20:42.30ibot...but emulate monmotha is already something else...
20:42.35[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:42.36ibotD'Oh!
20:42.37MonMothaibot no, emulate monmotha is <reply> DDR is gay!
20:42.38ibotMonMotha: okay
20:42.38CosmicPenguinddr is day
20:42.38CosmicPenguinseesh
20:42.46prpplaguehehe
20:42.51CosmicPenguin[sorphin]: add a third one
20:42.53[sorphin]~kill self
20:42.56ibotACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoneutrino gun at self
20:43.45[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:43.47ibotD'Oh!
20:43.51[sorphin]grr
20:43.59MonMothawell , the system is going down to be moved
20:44.06[sorphin]MonMotha: ?
20:44.10[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:44.12ibotmmmmmmmmm Donuts
20:44.14[sorphin]yay
20:44.44MonMothathe comp I'm on right now is about to be moved ~125 miles
20:44.49[sorphin]why?
20:44.52[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:44.53ibotD'Oh!
20:45.04MonMotha[sorphin]: I'm taking it home with me since I have 1.5wk off
20:45.10[sorphin]MonMotha: ah
20:45.17[sorphin]MonMotha: gonna finally do some dct5k work? ;)
20:45.27MonMothaI guess I could
20:45.31[sorphin]heh
20:45.53CosmicPenguinmaybe I will, carl.... mabye I will.
20:46.12[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:46.13ibotD'Oh!
20:46.18[sorphin]wtf
20:46.26[sorphin]always resorts to the 1st one 1st
20:46.44[sorphin]~emulate homer
20:46.45ibotD'Oh!
20:49.51[sorphin]~emulate CosmicPenguin
20:50.42CosmicPenguinheh
20:50.49CosmicPenguinaccept no imiatations
20:50.54[sorphin]guess you're not emulatable
20:51.11[sorphin]CosmicPenguin: yeah, cuz any immitation would spell right more often ;)
20:52.43filesilly CosmicPenguin
20:52.48[sorphin]silly file
20:53.11filenoooo
20:55.44CosmicPenguin[sorphin]: yeah - the dual Opterons that didn't pass sacn
20:55.48CosmicPenguins/sacn/scan/
20:56.58[sorphin]242s? ;)
20:57.15[sorphin]uh oh
20:57.22[sorphin]file's a mainstream asterisk monkey now :P
20:57.37filewell, just taking some load off of Russell's back...
20:57.46[sorphin]~emulate file
20:57.47ibotACTION poke poke poke poke
20:58.32CosmicPenguinOh, cool
20:58.41CosmicPenguinwe've got ins with a core developer
20:59.02prpplaguethe INS ?
20:59.04filethere's a reason I have an asterisk exhibitor pass issued by Digium for VON ;)
20:59.56fileCosmicPenguin: status of adventureful VoIP stuff
21:00.55CosmicPenguinerrr?
21:01.28filewell I'm just curious if I'm going to get the hardware before I head to VON
21:01.40CosmicPenguinhmmm... good question
21:04.42*** join/#elinux Crofton (~balister@mprg5213.mprg.ee.vt.edu)
21:05.09fileif so, I can relocate it to VON with me
21:09.59[sorphin]file: hw?
21:10.04[sorphin]wha hw?
21:10.26filenothinggggggg
21:10.28CosmicPenguinI scored him a Geode in exchange for helping me make a sip client I for demoing
21:10.32file:)
21:10.53[sorphin]ah
21:11.06[sorphin]free hw is good
21:11.08fileI could just go mad and make it run a modified asterisk as a softphone *G*
21:11.19CosmicPenguinworking voip clients are good too
21:11.37fileya know, I wonder how asterisk would run on it
21:11.42CosmicPenguinfile: hey, if you can make asterisk work on that bad boy, feel free
21:11.49[sorphin]geode schmeode
21:12.05[sorphin]speaking of geodes
21:12.24[sorphin]pretty pricey
21:12.48fileCosmicPenguin: yeah, run AMD off of many geodes... lol
21:16.25CosmicPenguinheh
21:16.29CosmicPenguinThat woud be cool
21:35.02filewoot changelog is in CVS
21:40.08[sorphin]~lart whoever for coming  up with the word 'woot'
22:48.57prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yo!
22:49.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: have a look http://freshmeat.net/projects/fjtag/
22:53.47T0mWprpplague: hmm, you think it is any good?  Or just a framework.
22:54.05prpplagueT0mW: i dl'd a copy
22:54.10prpplagueT0mW: looks pretty nice
22:55.26T0mWlooks to be targeted towards FPGA devices though
22:56.01prpplagueT0mW: yea the screen shot looks that way, but the readme's
22:56.14prpplagueT0mW: indicate that arm compatibility was high on the list
22:57.42fishheadt0wm
22:57.44fishheaddid you get a juicebox
22:58.14fishhead~art stupid canucks
22:58.21fishhead~lart stupid canucks
22:58.59CosmicPenguinprpplague: fun
22:59.01fishheadt0mw
22:59.03CosmicPenguinprpplague: looks like crap though
22:59.05fishheaddid you get a juicebox
22:59.21prpplagueCosmicPenguin: as far as the gui?
22:59.43CosmicPenguinprpplague: yep
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23:03.19[sorphin]GPSFan: re
23:04.28GPSFanhey how's it goin?
23:04.35prpplaguejeeze - http://www.linuxdevices.com/cgi-bin/board/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=realtime&Post=107&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=
23:04.44GPSFanin your new house yet?
23:04.48[sorphin]GPSFan: yep
23:04.59GPSFancongrats...
23:05.03[sorphin]GPSFan: just been taking care of the things that need it, eletrically, etc
23:05.05[sorphin]tnx
23:05.08[sorphin]+c
23:05.18prpplaguenothing like owning your own crack house
23:05.31[sorphin]prpplague: or in your case, trailer
23:05.32[sorphin];)
23:05.44prpplaguehehe
23:05.51prpplague[sorphin]: grass shack
23:06.13[sorphin]prpplague: so gonna have that mansion in bardbados w/ an outhouse in the back?
23:06.42prpplague[sorphin]: donna's mother told her this morning the "washington house" went up for sale this morning
23:06.59CosmicPenguinI would buy any house that has its own name
23:07.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: all the houses there do
23:07.28prpplagueCosmicPenguin: washington house was once owned by george washington
23:07.31*** join/#elinux ljp (~lpotter@203.94.178.46)
23:07.34[sorphin]"The House of Plague" or "The House of Anders"
23:07.39prpplagueCosmicPenguin: he lived there with his brother who had TB
23:08.23prpplaguehttp://george-washington.visit-barbados.com/
23:09.17CosmicPenguinWait - is that a picture of it?
23:09.23prpplaguehehe, no
23:09.30prpplagueCosmicPenguin: its very nice
23:09.42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: its a 17 room plantation house
23:10.36CosmicPenguinI recommend you buy
23:10.38CosmicPenguin:)
23:10.46[sorphin]hehe
23:10.58[sorphin]dave's gonna own that island w/in a year (or be dictator) :P
23:11.38prpplaguehttp://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/americas/07/03/barbados.tourism.reut/
23:11.54prpplagueCosmicPenguin: don't think i have that much money
23:12.41CosmicPenguinheh
23:14.31prpplaguewell of to the house to do some packing
23:14.33prpplaguelater folks
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23:18.16fishheadhttp://www.eet.com/semi/news/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=JDOSDTCPI5EKOQSNDBCSKHSCJUMEKJVN?articleID=60403130
23:18.18fishheadtomw
23:18.22fishheaddid you get a juicebox yet ?
23:18.27T0mWalsa sucks!!!
23:18.36T0mWdid I mention that alsa sucks?
23:18.45T0mWfishhead: no
23:18.54fishheadhang on lemme get you the url
23:18.57fishheadwalmart has them down to $13
23:19.01fishheadwas a $70 toy
23:19.10fishheadthe mp3 kit which was $39 doen to $9 or less
23:19.15fishheadif you can still find them
23:19.21fishheadyou are in us right ?
23:19.30T0mWyes
23:19.36fishheadlemme get the wiki
23:19.41fishheadbtw prpp is doing most of the hacking and stuff
23:20.01fishheadhttp://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBox
23:20.54fishheadif you get insterested let me know because there are 2 versions and they both have advantages
23:22.23T0mWI got to fix my sound system, damned stupid alsa crap
23:28.21[sorphin]CosmicPenguin: hmm
23:28.26[sorphin]dual core Athlon64
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23:29.24T0mWok, tantrum over
23:29.48[sorphin]T0mW: you need to learn to /ignore fishhead like the rest of us
23:30.10T0mWhmm
23:30.25fishheadand you need that super strain of aids that no drug works on and kills in only a  few yrs
23:30.27fishheadsorphin
23:30.37fishheadfucking prick
23:31.20T0mWnow, why would I want a juicebox?
23:31.25fishheadbecause it runs uclinux
23:31.30fishheadhidden behind menu
23:31.34fishhead60mhz arm7 cpu
23:31.42T0mWI've got stuff that runs uclinux, it is not that impressive
23:31.48fishheadit's $13!
23:31.57fishhead240x160@256 color lcd
23:32.08T0mWwebpal is only $10 and it is an ARM710 with an MMU
23:32.18fishheadactually can't get them anymore and they suck
23:32.33fishheadif it has a lcd attachment it would rock though
23:32.38T0mWI've got five in the closet now
23:32.40fishheadactually that's why I got 2 juiceboxes
23:32.49fishheadgoing to mod one to become a vnc term for webpal
23:33.10T0mWwell, four and one in process of being rewired / built up
23:33.19fishheadwhat did you do to them
23:33.23fishheadI never even got mine to run linux
23:33.33[sorphin]T0mW: no interest in the juicebox, myself, but the pixter, sure
23:33.49fishheadt0wm btw I don't care if you don
23:33.52fishheadlike tje juicebox
23:33.57fishheadI just wanted you to see the url at least
23:34.02fishheadsince you are into hacking that kinda stuff
23:34.04Soopamani hate you all
23:34.07fishheadthx
23:34.08Soopamanespecially [sorphin]
23:34.09Soopaman:D
23:34.11fishheadactually soopa
23:34.22fishheadNO ONE HATES ME MORE THAN ME
23:34.22CosmicPenguinWe hate you too Soopaman - especially [sorphin]
23:34.25fishheadSO DON'T EVEN TRY
23:34.32[sorphin]Soopaman: and why's that bitch? *grin*
23:34.44fishheadsoopaman
23:34.45fishheadare you from efnet
23:34.49fishheadorigionally
23:34.49Soopaman[sorphin], because you emulate my name too closely
23:35.01Soopamanand violate my intellectual properties
23:35.08fishheadSTUPID CANUCK
23:35.15Soopamanfuck off oggy
23:35.30fishheadbeen there
23:35.33fishheadmany times
23:35.37fishheadsoppa it's flyback/darkbread
23:35.38fishheadnot oggy
23:35.40[sorphin]Soopaman: and you're how old and been on irc how long? ;)
23:35.41fishheadyou stupid canuck
23:35.43chouimat[sorphin]: or getting laid and/or neuter
23:35.47fishheadhow the hell did you think I was oggy
23:35.50fishheadTHAT'S INSULTING
23:36.10fishheadchou HAHAHAHAH
23:36.10[sorphin]chouimat: well, prolly neutered, cuz he's never gonna get laid, he's already proven/stated that himself
23:36.12fishhead:)
23:36.28Soopamanfishhead, I'll say whatever makes you go away
23:36.32chouimatT0mW: I should too
23:36.34[sorphin]T0mW: it's a sideeffect of irc
23:36.39Soopaman[sorphin], so, I invented tivo, beat that :P
23:36.48[sorphin]Soopaman: riiight
23:36.55[sorphin]Soopaman: you mean 2 ex SGI people did
23:36.59Soopamani even put steve jobs onto it
23:37.05CosmicPenguinSoopaman: ooh, yeah?  I invented the on bit
23:37.10CosmicPenguin:p
23:37.13T0mW[sorphin]: well, mostly I do it mentally, but all this ding-ding-ding gets to me after a while
23:37.14Soopamanand he was like "damn, this would be a great addition to ihome"
23:37.14[sorphin]:P
23:37.21Soopamanand i was like, "it sure would be"
23:37.33[sorphin]Soopaman: sure sure :P
23:37.35Soopamanthen we laughed and drank more cuepertino frappachino
23:37.45Soopamanwhile listening to our pastel colored ipods
23:38.13[sorphin]chouimat: heh
23:38.22CosmicPenguin[sorphin]: well, if its blue, no harm done, right?
23:38.39chouimat[sorphin]: I have medical condition ...
23:38.41[sorphin]CosmicPenguin: i suppose not if it's blue... but if it's pink or purple
23:38.55[sorphin]chouimat: you mean other than your insanity and KDE goodness? ;)
23:39.12CosmicPenguinHe's probably blind from staring at KDE all day
23:39.16CosmicPenguinI know I would be
23:39.18Soopamanlol
23:39.21[sorphin]CosmicPenguin: actually
23:39.24chouimat[sorphin]: i need it to keep me killing morons ... and since I live in Ottawa ;)
23:39.30[sorphin]coding KDE isnt' a medical condition
23:39.34[sorphin]it's a MENTAL condition
23:39.48[sorphin]chouimat: heh
23:39.50CosmicPenguinIts probably a violation of the Geneva Convention too
23:40.02[sorphin]CosmicPenguin: if not, it sure should be ;)
23:40.09chouimatCosmicPenguin: no but GNOME is
23:40.28[sorphin]CosmicPenguin: now.. about those dual core Athlon64s ;)
23:40.42CosmicPenguinYeah - I need some of those, stat...
23:40.55CosmicPenguinNice that they'll plug right into the same socket
23:41.01[sorphin]9xx pins?
23:41.02[sorphin]wtf
23:41.05[sorphin]that's a lotta damn pins
23:41.53[sorphin]CosmicPenguin: actually saw a laptop in WorstBuy the other night while looking for a new laptop for missy
23:41.56[sorphin]was an athlon64
23:42.27[sorphin]was apples vs oranges

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