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| 00:12.44 | CosmicPenguin | time for beer |
| 00:20.11 | Crofton | um beer |
| 00:29.24 | TimRiker | sweet. zipitpet hacked the crypto on the zipit and built a replacement flash image. |
| 00:30.33 | TimRiker | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/message/77 |
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| 02:33.21 | TimRiker | prpplague: you see zipitpet got a hacked firmware image to load on a zipit? ;-) |
| 02:33.34 | prpplague | naw, cool |
| 02:33.56 | prpplague | TimRiker: so he;s figured out the method of encryption? |
| 02:34.54 | TimRiker | yeah. blowfish perhaps with some custom hacks. don't know if he can generate any arbitrary image, but I would expect he can. |
| 02:36.15 | prpplague | cool |
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| 06:57.05 | skradfasket | in a cluster, one chip is assigned to the task of sorting out which CPU gets what threads ya? |
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| 07:16.54 | skradfasket | did 68K chips always have eighty-some GIO ports? |
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| 13:55.58 | sjhill | hmmm |
| 14:23.37 | prpplague | for anyone that cares, i pestered emsoft about source yesterday, their website now has a download link |
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| 14:50.40 | cbrake | prpplague: morning. What is ernsoft? |
| 14:51.09 | prpplague | emsoft |
| 14:51.15 | prpplague | cbrake: makes of the juicebox |
| 14:51.25 | prpplague | cbrake: http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JuiceBox |
| 14:56.22 | cbrake | prpplague: ahh. I keep hearing about <$20 juicebox -- is this true? |
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| 15:11.25 | sjhill | ~ibot insult [sorphin] |
| 15:11.31 | sjhill | lame |
| 15:11.34 | sjhill | again |
| 15:11.35 | sjhill | ~ibot insult [sorphin] |
| 15:11.41 | sjhill | better |
| 15:11.45 | [sorphin] | whatever |
| 15:11.45 | sjhill | one more time |
| 15:11.46 | sjhill | ~ibot insult [sorphin] |
| 15:11.53 | sjhill | there we go |
| 15:11.57 | [sorphin] | :P |
| 15:12.04 | sjhill | :) |
| 15:12.24 | ade|desk | feel the love in this channel :) |
| 15:12.31 | [sorphin] | ade|desk: wotcher mate |
| 15:12.42 | ade|desk | lo lad |
| 15:13.26 | ade|desk | am in bed ill today, getting to like this new fangled wireless stuff, now i have found a use for it |
| 15:13.26 | [sorphin] | ade|desk: hows tricks? |
| 15:13.58 | ade|desk | how's life with you ? |
| 15:14.01 | [sorphin] | won't be for 8 hours :P |
| 15:14.30 | [sorphin] | ade|desk: alright, ta. furniture delivered today for new house, a few obsticles otherwise, but they'll pass |
| 15:19.32 | ade|desk | nicely nicely |
| 15:20.13 | prpplague | cbrake: yep |
| 15:20.23 | prpplague | cbrake: i purchased 5 for $13 each |
| 15:21.21 | cbrake | prpplague: hmm, they must be counting on selling media at that price. |
| 15:21.41 | prpplague | cbrake: well its just wal-mart |
| 15:21.56 | prpplague | cbrake: they got into a market problem with videonow |
| 15:22.11 | prpplague | cbrake: they'd already signed an agreement with the videonow ppl |
| 15:22.29 | prpplague | cbrake: and when they started selling the juicebox, videonow got their panties in a knot |
| 15:30.35 | cbrake | heh |
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| 15:35.01 | [sorphin] | and there's mr AMD |
| 15:35.21 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:36.25 | CosmicPenguin | yo |
| 15:36.37 | CosmicPenguin | wassup with all you all? |
| 15:37.03 | sjhill | kernel hacking this morning...w00t |
| 15:37.35 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: about to argue w/ SBC about the fact that when they swung my DSL over, they changed my static IPS |
| 15:37.58 | CosmicPenguin | [sorphin]: doh - thats not good |
| 15:38.04 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 15:38.06 | [sorphin] | i'm not amused |
| 15:38.13 | [sorphin] | and i JUSt got a letter yesterday about it |
| 15:38.36 | CosmicPenguin | reasoning? |
| 15:39.20 | sjhill | i bet they're reorganizing their subnets |
| 15:39.21 | [sorphin] | prolly because i moved a ways away, and they were assigned to the switch i used to be on |
| 15:39.47 | [sorphin] | well, what sucks is i had in-addr.arpa, now i have to see if they broke that too :P |
| 15:41.36 | chouimat | Pictured here is a woman who managed to survive the Asian Tsunami,approximately 100 miles out in the ocean, without any debris or flotation devices for days. How she managed is still baffling officials.... http://ulyx.ath.cx/Tsunamisurviver.jpg |
| 15:42.54 | prpplague | HA |
| 15:43.08 | chouimat | :) |
| 15:43.12 | sjhill | that's when you recognize there is a God and you figure out why He saved your butt |
| 15:45.16 | sjhill | oh Marvell, how i hate thee |
| 15:45.18 | [sorphin] | chouimat: typical link from you :P |
| 15:45.41 | sjhill | i assume that's work viewable, didn't follow it |
| 15:45.59 | chouimat | sjhill: no nudity |
| 15:46.35 | chouimat | [sorphin]: I just got it in my emails and I have a lot of coffee on my keyboard now |
| 15:46.55 | sjhill | ya' know, i'm getting really fed up with China and them trying to set DVD and WiFi encyrption standards |
| 15:48.09 | [sorphin] | sjhill: it's a chick w/ some built in flotation devices :P |
| 15:48.17 | [sorphin] | again, typical chouimat ;) |
| 15:48.58 | sjhill | ah |
| 15:49.00 | sjhill | heh |
| 15:49.06 | chouimat | [sorphin]: you have a problem with me liking the beauty of nature? |
| 15:49.35 | CosmicPenguin | If you think those are natural, you have another thing comin', son |
| 15:50.01 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: you can get killed by those |
| 15:50.29 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 15:52.56 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: those are definately not natural |
| 15:53.02 | [sorphin] | maybe a freak of nature |
| 16:07.38 | CosmicPenguin | nature isn't that cruel |
| 16:08.12 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 16:12.15 | CosmicPenguin | anyone ever play with this: http://directory.fsf.org/devel/compilers/acovea.html |
| 16:12.18 | CosmicPenguin | It looks pretty damn cool |
| 16:12.50 | sjhill | ah |
| 16:12.56 | sjhill | the guy from Coyote Gulch |
| 16:13.00 | sjhill | yep ype |
| 16:13.32 | CosmicPenguin | The guy from Coyote Gulch? |
| 16:13.39 | CosmicPenguin | Is there a story? Do tell... |
| 16:15.40 | sjhill | it's no big deal, he submitted some white papers and compiler optimization comparison benchmark code |
| 16:15.57 | sjhill | saw his work about a year or so ago, maybe only 6 months, can't remember |
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| 16:53.35 | [sorphin] | bastards |
| 16:53.46 | [sorphin] | if this becomes a real pain, i'm dropping it all |
| 16:53.58 | [sorphin] | NOW they new static policy |
| 16:54.02 | [sorphin] | s/they/their/ |
| 16:54.05 | [sorphin] | even w/ statics |
| 16:54.16 | [sorphin] | some device has to PPPOE to allow the ips to be 'released' |
| 16:56.30 | Soopaman | rage against the machine [sorphin]! |
| 17:01.01 | CosmicPenguin | screw that |
| 17:01.17 | CosmicPenguin | Why would they want to "release them" |
| 17:01.26 | CosmicPenguin | If you do something bad, they just block you at the router, and thats that |
| 17:01.38 | CosmicPenguin | If someone with more money comes along, thats my guess |
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| 17:20.45 | Soopaman | has anyone ever used busybox to authenticate through a database instead of /etc/passwd? |
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| 17:45.49 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: they're morons |
| 17:46.45 | CosmicPenguin | Mkay then |
| 18:12.50 | cdm | chouimat: good luck! |
| 18:13.19 | chouimat | :) |
| 18:13.48 | Soopaman | i hope you fall down on your face! |
| 18:13.49 | Soopaman | :D |
| 18:14.32 | chouimat | Soopaman: |
| 18:15.11 | Soopaman | sorphin made me type that |
| 18:15.39 | Soopaman | but i'm confident you'll do great at your interview |
| 18:15.45 | Soopaman | after all, you're canadian |
| 18:19.27 | [sorphin] | looks like they may be able to get me away from this SBC BS and still use my RT connection |
| 18:30.02 | [sorphin] | or not |
| 18:30.08 | [sorphin] | they only svc CA |
| 18:30.08 | [sorphin] | bah |
| 18:30.33 | CosmicPenguin | Give em hell for me |
| 18:31.40 | [sorphin] | i'm tryin |
| 18:44.12 | prpplague | anyone have a zipit? |
| 18:45.43 | [sorphin] | nope |
| 18:46.42 | prpplague | i've got to get one so i can test my mmc socket hack |
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| 18:48.04 | prpplague | sjhill: yo! crack baby |
| 18:48.34 | CosmicPenguin | anyone want to bet on how well the Sun J2ME toolkit works with a free JVM? |
| 18:48.49 | prpplague | hehe no |
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| 19:01.07 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
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| 19:03.15 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: yo |
| 19:03.22 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: sorry, I didn't tell you about the SHLIB thing in qte |
| 19:03.28 | CosmicPenguin | I hope you didn't spend too much time on it |
| 19:03.53 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: heh, a couple hours, on and off |
| 19:04.40 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: and libgcc_s and libstdc++ were not installed in any .ipks for some reason |
| 19:05.14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: yeah, thats an ongoing but random issue |
| 19:05.15 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: but I worked through all that, enough for qte to run and hose up my console... |
| 19:05.32 | CosmicPenguin | doh |
| 19:05.57 | andersee | I assume it isn't supposed to do that. :-) |
| 19:06.11 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I've been using it through a serial console which I think helps when apps do stupid things with the vt |
| 19:06.19 | CosmicPenguin | like *cough* microwindows |
| 19:06.45 | andersee | yeah, since my box was hosed I looked at it a little more via ssh |
| 19:07.04 | andersee | started to build gdb, but then had work to do, and never got back to it |
| 19:09.02 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: oe has gdb in it |
| 19:09.04 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: works great |
| 19:10.49 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I did a bitbake -b <path>/gdb-<version>.bb |
| 19:11.40 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: It failed lacking some library or other, and by then I'd squandered so much time I had to set things aside and do my real work for the day |
| 19:11.49 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: in those cases, you should really run bitbake <package> instead of specyfing the -b directly |
| 19:11.58 | CosmicPenguin | because -b doesn't do dependancy checking |
| 19:11.58 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: ahhh |
| 19:12.31 | CosmicPenguin | -b is really for when you are working on a single package |
| 19:12.51 | CosmicPenguin | I use -b to clean alot, because I hate loading the entire dependancy tree just to clean a package |
| 19:20.09 | [sorphin] | well, on the bad side |
| 19:20.12 | [sorphin] | there's no 'going back' |
| 19:20.17 | [sorphin] | on the plus side, i gain an IP back |
| 19:20.25 | [sorphin] | since the pppoe'd addr becomes my router addr |
| 19:20.28 | [sorphin] | the other bad side |
| 19:20.36 | [sorphin] | i don't realy route my statics through the router |
| 19:20.37 | [sorphin] | so.. |
| 19:20.50 | [sorphin] | this is gonna become interesting |
| 19:24.31 | CosmicPenguin | should make for some fun times |
| 19:34.00 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: i wouldn't go that far |
| 19:41.02 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: gdb still failed |
| 19:41.04 | andersee | | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../intl/libintl.a', needed by `gdb'. Stop. |
| 19:41.07 | andersee | sigh |
| 19:41.36 | CosmicPenguin | nuts |
| 19:42.01 | CosmicPenguin | I think emerging intltool is the right thing to do there, but I'm not sure |
| 19:42.16 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth would know |
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| 19:52.52 | [sorphin] | heh |
| 19:52.59 | [sorphin] | SCO got a hearing on their potential delisting |
| 19:53.37 | CosmicPenguin | heh - well, at least they're not totally inept |
| 19:53.44 | [sorphin] | just mostly |
| 19:53.51 | CosmicPenguin | you would think a company as high profile as them would have their reports in on time |
| 19:54.16 | CosmicPenguin | "Judge, we should beat IBM, even though we can't file a damn piece of paper by the deadline" |
| 19:54.34 | [sorphin] | hehe |
| 19:55.18 | CosmicPenguin | "right. I rule that you lose, and that Darl must stand on the corner of Main and State to be beaten by all comers" |
| 19:55.47 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: i'd sneak out to do that too |
| 19:56.04 | CosmicPenguin | And then we would go to the tabernacle and get drunk |
| 19:56.09 | CosmicPenguin | Sounds like a fun weekend |
| 19:56.13 | [sorphin] | ROTFL |
| 19:56.21 | [sorphin] | you're joking right? a BAR called the tabernacle? |
| 19:56.29 | CosmicPenguin | Actually, its Tavernacle |
| 19:56.35 | [sorphin] | ah |
| 19:56.45 | [sorphin] | close enough |
| 19:56.46 | CosmicPenguin | Their shirts say "Our spirits aren't holy, but you still need to be a member to get in" |
| 19:56.57 | [sorphin] | heh |
| 19:57.05 | CosmicPenguin | Which is a a combination of jokes that only Utah people would understand |
| 19:57.16 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: i'm not from UT and i get the joke |
| 19:57.32 | CosmicPenguin | Ok , I guess |
| 19:57.48 | [sorphin] | anyhoo |
| 19:58.00 | [sorphin] | stupid furniture company won't be at the house till close to 4 |
| 19:58.05 | [sorphin] | that kills my lunch |
| 19:58.18 | CosmicPenguin | heh - been there |
| 19:58.52 | [sorphin] | the refund is what bought the mac mini |
| 19:59.22 | CosmicPenguin | I don't expect a refund |
| 19:59.27 | CosmicPenguin | I only hope I can get filed by April 15th |
| 19:59.35 | [sorphin] | nod |
| 19:59.44 | CosmicPenguin | Damn LLCs |
| 19:59.51 | [sorphin] | ? |
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| 20:00.05 | CosmicPenguin | I've got my old consulting gig still on the books, and I'm a partner in another LLC |
| 20:00.11 | [sorphin] | ah |
| 20:00.14 | [sorphin] | penguru |
| 20:00.34 | CosmicPenguin | So I have to do the penguru taxes, and then wait for my other partner to do the taxes for that company |
| 20:00.35 | [sorphin] | chouimat: i'm assuming that's the canadian equiv. of a W2 here |
| 20:01.23 | chouimat | [sorphin]: the paper that said how much $$ you did and how much taxes they took ... they have until monday feb.28th to produce them |
| 20:01.33 | [sorphin] | chouimat: right, same thing then |
| 20:01.41 | [sorphin] | chouimat: they had till Jan 31st here |
| 20:01.46 | [sorphin] | and mine were all online |
| 20:01.52 | [sorphin] | so i did it even faste |
| 20:01.55 | [sorphin] | r |
| 20:02.09 | chouimat | [sorphin]: I called them to know when to expect it ... and they never returned my calls |
| 20:03.24 | [sorphin] | ah |
| 20:34.23 | Soopaman | chouimat, how did the interview go? |
| 20:36.36 | chouimat | Soopaman: don't know |
| 20:38.32 | Soopaman | i thought you already had it? |
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| 20:49.12 | chouimat | Soopaman: I had it ... |
| 20:49.45 | Soopaman | how did it go? |
| 20:50.11 | chouimat | can't say it was good or bad ... |
| 20:50.56 | [sorphin] | chouimat: you can't say how you think it went? |
| 20:51.18 | CosmicPenguin | If he got the job, it was good |
| 20:51.18 | Soopaman | maybe he's under NDA |
| 20:51.21 | CosmicPenguin | if he didn't it was bad |
| 20:51.35 | CosmicPenguin | He needs somebody else to validate his interview experience |
| 20:51.54 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: someone would have to understand him 1st ;p |
| 20:52.34 | [sorphin] | and it's not realy good practice to admit you code KDE, either ;) |
| 20:52.59 | [sorphin] | unless it's a kde job |
| 20:53.02 | [sorphin] | in which case.... |
| 20:53.37 | chouimat | [sorphin]: got weird question ok |
| 20:53.46 | [sorphin] | uh oh |
| 20:54.37 | chouimat | so I can't say if I blew it and my feeling about it is not good ... but it was the same after the xandros interview and I got the job after 6 weeks |
| 20:54.52 | [sorphin] | ah |
| 20:55.04 | [sorphin] | hmm |
| 20:55.08 | [sorphin] | i dunno then |
| 20:55.12 | [sorphin] | what sorta gig is it? |
| 20:55.39 | chouimat | linux development ... but something smelled weird when they asked me question about mfc/c#/vb |
| 20:56.45 | [sorphin] | erm |
| 20:56.53 | [sorphin] | i'd agree |
| 20:57.53 | chouimat | and add sysadmin (linux and windows) the place looked like a small startup that want someone who will accept to be underpaid and do everything |
| 20:59.41 | [sorphin] | aka |
| 20:59.52 | [sorphin] | be a pseudo corporate whore lackey |
| 21:00.37 | chouimat | [sorphin]: yup so i won't cry if I don't get it |
| 21:01.50 | [sorphin] | indeed |
| 21:02.24 | chouimat | and i'm currently feel like going "drink some beers" |
| 21:03.17 | prpplague | lordy we have alot to pack |
| 21:06.16 | Soopaman | prpplague, finally going to barbados? |
| 21:09.48 | file | hi |
| 21:14.13 | prpplague | Soopaman: wife and kids are going tomorrow |
| 21:15.23 | Soopaman | vacation, or resettling? |
| 21:23.48 | CosmicPenguin | Movin' to paradise, getting a nice gig, buying George Washington's house |
| 21:26.52 | ljp | prpplague: watch out for sharks |
| 21:30.04 | prpplague | ljp: hhe |
| 21:30.19 | prpplague | ljp: don't see too many close to shore |
| 21:31.29 | [sorphin] | barbados doesn't know it yet |
| 21:31.39 | [sorphin] | but they're being infected by the #elinux Plague |
| 21:31.40 | [sorphin] | ;) |
| 21:33.08 | prpplague | hehe |
| 21:33.19 | prpplague | GvzEvxre: whats with the nick? |
| 21:34.42 | [sorphin] | it's just tim being weird i'm sure |
| 21:36.41 | *** join/#elinux kergoth (~kergoth@li11-226.members.linode.com) |
| 21:36.41 | *** mode/#elinux [+o kergoth] by ChanServ |
| 21:36.52 | [sorphin] | and there he is ;) |
| 21:37.12 | file | hi kergoth |
| 21:37.15 | kergoth | hey |
| 21:37.24 | [sorphin] | eep it's the file voip machine |
| 21:37.27 | prpplague | kergoth: hey crack baby |
| 21:38.05 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:38.12 | [sorphin] | file: better get well before VON :P |
| 21:38.17 | file | [sorphin]: yeah |
| 21:38.59 | [sorphin] | mv file /dev/isolationchamber |
| 22:03.08 | *** join/#elinux file (~file@mctn1-8179.nb.aliant.net) |
| 22:03.08 | *** mode/#elinux [+v file] by ChanServ |
| 22:03.18 | [sorphin] | ~emulate homer |
| 22:03.19 | ibot | D'Oh! |
| 22:03.26 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 22:03.35 | CosmicPenguin | [sorphin]: you're not going to give that one up, are you? :) |
| 22:03.39 | [sorphin] | ~emulate homer |
| 22:03.40 | ibot | Bart! Get back here! |
| 22:03.51 | [sorphin] | :P |
| 22:03.54 | CosmicPenguin | nice |
| 22:04.02 | [sorphin] | ~emulate homer |
| 22:04.03 | ibot | Hello Mr. Burns |
| 22:04.11 | CosmicPenguin | You need some better quotes, though |
| 22:04.19 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: "patches welcome" :P |
| 22:05.12 | kergoth | ~emulate max |
| 22:05.14 | ibot | I say we go down to the scummy side of town and give some hoods some papercuts! |
| 22:05.32 | [sorphin] | ~emulate kergoth |
| 22:05.33 | ibot | ACTION hacks on bitbake, openembedded, openzaurus, and other projects and wields a mean wootz damascus steel cluebat |
| 22:05.40 | [sorphin] | rotfl |
| 22:05.41 | CosmicPenguin | Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen. |
| 22:05.58 | [sorphin] | kergoth: it's ClueBat(tm) :P |
| 22:06.00 | CosmicPenguin | Kids, you tried your best, and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. |
| 22:06.15 | [sorphin] | CosmicPenguin: i like the 1/2 work, american way one |
| 22:06.22 | [sorphin] | 1/2 ass work even |
| 22:06.57 | CosmicPenguin | Dear God, give a bald guy a break |
| 22:07.20 | CosmicPenguin | Lisa, when you don't like your job, you don't strike, you go in every day and do a half assed job. Its the american way. |
| 22:07.28 | CosmicPenguin | Last Exit to Springfield |
| 22:07.29 | kergoth | haha, so true |
| 22:07.45 | CosmicPenguin | I would tell you the episode number, but I haven't memorized them all |
| 22:07.47 | [sorphin] | or |
| 22:07.49 | [sorphin] | "Hate your job, don't quit, just go to work everyday & do a half ass job....it's the American Way". |
| 22:08.33 | [sorphin] | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.44 | [sorphin] | sounds like dave ;) |
| 22:08.47 | CosmicPenguin | Oops, I was wrong |
| 22:08.55 | CosmicPenguin | The strike quote was from the teachers strike |
| 22:09.38 | file | thank god it's Friday |
| 22:09.39 | CosmicPenguin | heh... I was wrote |
| 22:09.42 | CosmicPenguin | s/wrote/right/ |
| 22:09.46 | [sorphin] | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.47 | file | or else I'd strangle someone |
| 22:09.51 | CosmicPenguin | bow before my geekiness! |
| 22:10.19 | [sorphin] | hmm |
| 22:10.21 | [sorphin] | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.17 | CosmicPenguin | "mmm.... gummy venus de milo... |
| 22:13.10 | [sorphin] | doh |
| 22:13.12 | [sorphin] | Dear Homer, IOU one emergency donut. Signed Homer. Bastard! He's always one step ahead. |
| 22:14.07 | [sorphin] | haha |
| 22:14.08 | [sorphin] | Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? |
| 22:14.52 | CosmicPenguin | Please try not to talk, its making your body ripple |
| 22:15.03 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:16.54 | [sorphin] | Marge, please. Old people don't need companionship. They need to be isolated and studied so that it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use. |
| 22:17.42 | CosmicPenguin | Will you stop reading that Ross Perot pamplet? |
| 22:17.45 | [sorphin] | and finally.. and this one worries me... "# Marge, you being a cop makes you the man! Which makes me the woman -- and I have no interest in that, besides occasionally wearing the underwear, which as we discussed, is strictly a comfort thing." |
| 22:17.56 | file | lol |
| 22:47.42 | fishhead | CasterPod writes "As of February 28, Windows users who purchased their PC will no longer be able to reinstall without calling Microsoft and answering a series of questions. The move is part of an anti-piracy effort to close 'a loophole that enabled unscrupulous resellers to use Windows XP product keys that were stolen from large OEMs.' Specifically, Certificate of Authenticity (COA) labels on PCs are often unused because OEMs preinsta |
| 22:47.42 | fishhead | ll Windows and bypass product activation. The product keys can therefore be stolen and reused. First WGA, and now this." |
| 22:47.50 | fishhead | looks like win2k will be my last windows os |
| 22:49.07 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, thanks - we all read slashdot |
| 22:49.33 | fishhead | a lot of people don't |
| 22:49.37 | fishhead | I don't as much anymore |
| 22:49.46 | fishhead | sick of their left wing nazi marxist rant |
| 22:53.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, juicebox is using nano-x |
| 22:54.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no crap? Is Greg involved? |
| 22:54.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't think so |
| 22:54.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: urls? |
| 22:54.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i sent emsoft a nasty gram yesterday |
| 22:54.40 | CosmicPenguin | I'll get involved if I can help on the Nano-X front |
| 22:54.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they posted source this morning |
| 22:54.45 | CosmicPenguin | he |
| 22:54.46 | CosmicPenguin | h |
| 22:54.58 | prpplague | http://www.emsoftltd.com/customers.html |
| 22:55.17 | prpplague | very small lettering under mattel for download |
| 22:55.45 | CosmicPenguin | Where is the link for the Nano-X stuff? |
| 22:55.49 | fishhead | so |
| 22:55.54 | fishhead | anyone here work with uclinux |
| 22:56.12 | fishhead | prpp |
| 22:56.15 | fishhead | JUICEBOX SOURCE ? |
| 22:56.41 | fishhead | YES |
| 22:56.45 | prpplague | http://www.emsoftltd.com/products/listing/nanogtk_content.htm |
| 22:56.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: for the nano-x stuff |
| 22:56.59 | fishhead | DUDE YOU DID IT |
| 22:57.01 | fishhead | WAY TO GO! |
| 22:57.02 | prpplague | ~lart fishhead |
| 22:57.05 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, holy grap |
| 22:57.08 | CosmicPenguin | s/grap/crap/ |
| 22:57.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, I know these guys |
| 22:57.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I didn't know they were actually putting their stuff to good use |
| 22:58.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: they did a decent job with the port - much better then the nxlib emulation stuff that we were trying to do |
| 22:58.41 | fishhead | http://www.emsoftltd.com/customers.html |
| 22:59.50 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 22:59.52 | CosmicPenguin | Well, good on them |
| 23:00.01 | fishhead | w00t |
| 23:00.10 | fishhead | this pretty much means we can do whatever with it now |
| 23:00.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: it took a nasty gram to get them to comply |
| 23:00.17 | fishhead | oh |
| 23:00.20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: at least they complied |
| 23:00.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i email them about 10 times over the last week |
| 23:00.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: If I was in their position, I would have probably waited for somebody to complain, too |
| 23:00.47 | fishhead | I just hope it doesn't mean they won't even use linux again |
| 23:01.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: after all, source availablity is "on request" |
| 23:01.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the last time, i mentioned i was a copyright holder for portions of the code they were using and the next step was getting fsf involved |
| 23:01.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 23:01.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, I have copyrights on some of the nano-X stuff... :) |
| 23:02.33 | fishhead | I thought nano-x is dead |
| 23:03.40 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder where they got the desktop code |
| 23:03.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: have any screenshots of the desktop in action? |
| 23:04.11 | fishhead | http://news.com.com/A+voyage+inside+the+iPod+Shuffle/2100-1041_3-5590430.html?tag=nl |
| 23:04.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no desktop, just one app running |
| 23:04.36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: oh... |
| 23:05.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ahh... |
| 23:05.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that makes life easy |
| 23:05.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: In the end, its probably just a bunch of blits to the screen, huh? Not much drawing involved? |
| 23:06.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the only app is a multi function audio/video player |
| 23:06.42 | CosmicPenguin | nod |
| 23:06.54 | CosmicPenguin | I saw powerpuff girls and stuff on the website - were those movies? |
| 23:07.19 | prpplague | yea |
| 23:07.25 | fishhead | t0mw :) |
| 23:07.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: in their funky video format |
| 23:08.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which appears to be some mpeg4 codec |
| 23:08.05 | CosmicPenguin | oh, really? |
| 23:08.14 | CosmicPenguin | I would have tought they would have gone with motion jpeg or something |
| 23:08.17 | CosmicPenguin | color me impressed |
| 23:08.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and they made a special format for their pictures as well |
| 23:09.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: gottsa keep it propriatary |
| 23:09.10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its all about the benjis |
| 23:09.23 | prpplague | yea |
| 23:09.34 | prpplague | they would have sold a ton more if they'd gone open |
| 23:09.36 | T0mW | can't have 10 year olds simply downloading their own stuff directly into it without getting a peice of the action can we? |
| 23:09.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you think? |
| 23:10.05 | CosmicPenguin | Not too many 10 year olds I know have mpeg content thats not stolen |
| 23:10.17 | T0mW | heh |
| 23:10.32 | prpplague | hehe |
| 23:10.33 | fishhead | I still want to merge a juicebox and my webpal |
| 23:10.47 | fishhead | I wonder how much bw I can get over a sio link |
| 23:11.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, well, as a parent, i would have transfered dvd's to the device |
| 23:11.02 | T0mW | well, I did look while at walmart for the unit, they had none on the shelves |
| 23:11.17 | fishhead | did you look at clearance |
| 23:11.20 | fishhead | my local one has tons |
| 23:11.23 | prpplague | T0mW: yea they are going fast in some places |
| 23:11.25 | fishhead | but they are still $13 |
| 23:11.42 | fishhead | although most of them now are 2 meg units |
| 23:11.48 | T0mW | prpplague: I'll take the uclinux tarball and toss that into storage, you never know when you might need some atmel TDMI code. |
| 23:12.23 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 23:12.36 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW: no joke |
| 23:13.20 | T0mW | prpplague: I finally sent an "ultimatum" to that customer who is dithering on the ARM (re)design stuff. Told him it has gone on long enough, either we do it or not. |
| 23:13.56 | T0mW | prpplague: over the past 5 years I've made as many proposals to him in response to his inquiry of a replacement unit. |
| 23:14.35 | T0mW | prpplague: last proposal had "circles + arrows + a paragraph on the back of each one". |
| 23:15.27 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 23:15.28 | T0mW | unless Phillips has retooled and is now making 80C451 processors again... |
| 23:16.11 | fishhead | WTF |
| 23:16.15 | fishhead | 0C451 ? |
| 23:16.21 | fishhead | is that like a super extension of the 8051 ? |
| 23:16.26 | T0mW | kergoth: it will go out monday |
| 23:17.18 | kergoth | cool, thanks |
| 23:21.09 | T0mW | heh, Microsoft's XP registration process seems to be having problems. |
| 23:21.20 | T0mW | s/registration/activation/ |
| 23:21.28 | kergoth | man, i love my new mp3 player |
| 23:21.38 | T0mW | what'd you get? |
| 23:21.41 | fishhead | t0mw did you hear what they are doing |
| 23:22.22 | kergoth | iriver h320 |
| 23:22.35 | kergoth | supports ogg, color lcd, 20gig |
| 23:23.19 | T0mW | that's a lot music! |
| 23:25.30 | prpplague | T0mW: http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/02/25/0350219.shtml?tid=201&tid=109&tid=164 |
| 23:26.08 | prpplague | T0mW: they are moving ahead of schedule as i have heard |
| 23:26.30 | T0mW | I agree with the first posting: " Now you will be forcing more people to move over to Linux and Mac computers!!!" |
| 23:26.32 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you gonna try to put rockbox on it? :) |
| 23:28.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: heh, not before i get the jtag hooked up. dont feel like risking a brick |
| 23:29.04 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: heh - yeah |
| 23:29.23 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: thats the problem with stuff like that - on one hand, you want to play, but on the other hand, it works now, so why screw with it |
| 23:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | I feel that way about my Tivo |
| 23:29.51 | kergoth | yeah, exactly |
| 23:31.01 | prpplague | kergoth: hehe, fun |
| 23:31.06 | prpplague | kergoth: what jtag app you gonna use? |
| 23:32.16 | prpplague | kergoth: oh that looks nice |
| 23:33.02 | prpplague | kergoth: is that linux based? |
| 23:35.35 | CosmicPenguin | CC is to gcc as <blank> is to javac |
| 23:35.47 | CosmicPenguin | Any idea what the common environment variable for javac is? |
| 23:37.10 | CosmicPenguin | JC mabye |
| 23:37.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've not used it in a while but i think on the one i used it was JAVA_C |
| 23:37.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh |
| 23:38.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: in other words, since none of us touch it with a 10 foot pool, there is no standard |
| 23:38.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i'd not touch it by choice |
| 23:38.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: abcsinc has been moving towards java for years |
| 23:38.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still haven't gotten a single sellable product |
| 23:39.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they started back in 2000 with 6 programmers on the project |
| 23:39.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when i left they had 29 and were looking to add 8 more |
| 23:39.44 | CosmicPenguin | thats Java for you |
| 23:40.20 | T0mW | yeah |
| 23:41.09 | cdm | poor TivO |
| 23:41.28 | T0mW | there is a company near me that is taking a Professional Pascal code system and has been attempting to port it onto a Java platform. I hear the same about them: they keep throwing money at it and still come up with more problems in implementation |
| 23:42.24 | cdm | but I have never worked on any silly server-side "enterprise" java projects. |
| 23:42.43 | T0mW | cdm: that's what they're attempting |
| 23:43.21 | T0mW | from what I hear, the code will run on the development systems but won't run on the target servers. |
| 23:43.22 | cdm | what I find with most enterprise projects is that they don't have solid people doing design up-front, assuming that Java will just "do it right" for them. |
| 23:43.52 | prpplague | kergoth: any idea what kind of processor? |
| 23:47.03 | Soopaman | ~ibot jtag |
| 23:47.04 | ibot | somebody said jtag was a method of reflashing bricked devices. it stands for "joint test access group", if joshua_ remembers correctly. the method used is called "boundary scan" over a parallel port. it works by sending commands to twiddle individual pins on the CPU. LART JTAG info can be found at http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/projects/jtag/ . |
| 23:47.31 | Soopaman | hmm.. that link doesn't work |
| 23:48.04 | CosmicPenguin | Soopaman: just google it -you'll find more information then you care to know about |
| 23:49.00 | Soopaman | CosmicPenguin, why would you need a jtag for your tivo? |
| 23:49.20 | Soopaman | the software hacks are more than sufficient enough for total system access |
| 23:49.31 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know that I ever said I would need one |
| 23:50.07 | CosmicPenguin | file: they're ignoring me over in marketing land |
| 23:50.14 | CosmicPenguin | I'll get on it on Monday |
| 23:50.31 | file | no pressure, it's not like I'm going to be here to do anything |
