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00:00.57kergothhah
00:01.05kergothugly ugyl
00:05.16CosmicPenguinheh - found it - I was doing an endif instead of a fi
00:05.19CosmicPenguin~lart me
00:05.24kergothhehe
00:05.31kergothdont have syntax highlighting on?
00:05.32kergoth:)
00:05.38CosmicPenguinapparently not
00:09.25CosmicPenguinOk - we're building....
00:09.28CosmicPenguinthats something
00:10.31CosmicPenguinI'm thinking I can combine bootmenu and pdm and make some sort of funky ass display manager
00:13.10CosmicPenguingew
00:13.17CosmicPenguinAutomake prints out too much crap
00:14.31hardwireheh
00:14.34hardwiremore HID crap to deal with
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00:44.44kergothmy god
00:44.49kergothi think i'm starting to understand m4 quoting
00:45.18CosmicPenguinnah
00:48.20CosmicPenguinHmmm.... bootmenu isn't clear enough in my mind
00:48.30CosmicPenguinI'm just hacking at it, right now - I think I should back off for a bit
00:48.39CosmicPenguinPlus its too late in the day - hometime
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05:49.23hardwirehttp://www.empc2.com/products/description.php?II=17
05:49.24hardwireheh
05:49.38hardwirethat would be kind of nice
05:50.14hardwirehttp://www.empc2.com/products/description.php/II=216/CA=1
05:50.15hardwirehmm
05:50.21hardwirexscale
05:50.30hardwirehas anybody seen this?
05:56.51hardwirehttp://www.yuan.com.tw/en/products/vdo_cb622.html    +    http://www.empc2.com/products/description.php/II=150/CA=2    ==   mpeg-2 encoder
05:58.02hardwireinstead of these 900 dollar ones
05:58.07hardwirewith no LCD
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15:08.43CP|LaptopYo people
15:08.52chouimathi
15:08.56prpplagueCP|Laptop: hey
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15:29.43prpplagueT0mW: hey crack baby
15:29.53prpplagueT0mW: you doing any more work on the sharp processors?
15:31.52chouimathi T0mW prpplague
15:34.11T0mWheh
15:34.15T0mWfirewall is all fscked up today
15:34.21T0mWI'm trying to mock-up a couple systems that I've had trouble building.  I've got four computers hooked together
15:34.26T0mWheh, so I suddenly stop responding, you'll know why.  heh
15:34.28T0mWs/so/so if/
15:35.37T0mWprpplague: not yet.  Someone contacted me about JTAG + Wiggler and asked a bunch of questions bout the LPD board.  Seems he saw some of my postings about the stuff on the forum.
15:36.10T0mWprpplague: He was covering the same ground that I had with the JTAG software so I sent him what I had done to help him along
15:36.20T0mWmaybe he can get around the CPLD crap
15:36.58T0mWprpplague: that one customer is now asking for a new design, the guy I was looking at the Sharp processor for?
15:37.21T0mWprpplague: I feel like one of the towns' people in "Peter and the Wolf".  
15:37.54T0mWprpplague: "Wolf! Wolf!" ... "I need a new design!"
15:40.01prpplagueT0mW: hehe
15:41.19prpplagueT0mW: gonna have to let him know that you've done like 2 or 3 design free, gonna have to charge for the next quote
15:42.35T0mWprpplague: http://rafb.net/paste/results/XmGZv218.html
15:42.49T0mWprpplague: that is his idea of a "specification"
15:43.47T0mWI guess that is something of a milestone for him, he finally put "something" down on paper...
15:44.07T0mWpretty nebulous if you ask me
15:45.10T0mWprpplague: "Oh, BTW, can you do this for less than $10K ?"
15:45.41prpplagueT0mW: hehe
15:45.54prpplagueT0mW: not and have it a custom board
15:46.34T0mWprpplague: so, I'm supposed to quote on an open-ended spec, spend 3..6 months satifying the "specification", which is nothing more than "I'll let you know when you've done enough work"
15:47.27prpplagueT0mW: yea, its hard for some biz ppl to understand how to contract out a project
15:47.44prpplagueT0mW: i won't do a job unless i have a good spec
15:48.21prpplagueT0mW: its just like going to war, if you don't know when you've won, you'll be there forever, i.e. vietnam
15:49.03T0mWprpplague: Ok, I didn't paste this: "Do you need any additional info to quote this Mini MUXPAD III?  The footprint may have to conform to the customer?s radio unit."
15:49.22T0mWok? So, how big / small should the footprint be?
15:50.06chouimatT0mW: nice specs ... remind me of the specs for something I got from xandros management ... aka doesn't know what they want
15:50.15T0mWprpplague: I love this part too: "perhaps Ethernet and or USB?"
15:50.20CP|Laptopheh
15:50.28T0mWlike this is going to be an 8051 derivative...
15:50.34CP|LaptopHell, my guys here are supposed to be experts, and they're just like that
15:50.45prpplaguehehe
15:51.05T0mWCP|Laptop: assholes are everywhere nowdays, and most of them have degrees now...
15:51.28prpplagueCP|Laptop: lordy i didn't realize how stressful this move was gonna be
15:51.51prpplagueT0mW: yea, and not worth wiping their ass on
15:52.32T0mWI love this, he is essentially backquoting a proposal I gave him 4 months ago and told him it would be around $48K to design + program.
15:52.49CP|Laptopprpplague: you over thinking your move?
15:53.12prpplagueCP|Laptop: you know me, i over think everything
15:53.41T0mWis the word "mini" synonymous with "cheap"
15:54.08CP|Laptopprpplague: think of it this way - you're making your life, and your family's life better
15:54.17CP|LaptopIt might be stressful, but its worth it
15:54.34CP|LaptopUnless the stress you are used to... :)
15:54.53prpplagueT0mW: usually when i get a mini-stripper at the nudie bar, its cheaper
15:54.59T0mWheh
15:55.16prpplagueCP|Laptop: yea, i just worry about stuff too much
15:55.40prpplagueCP|Laptop: the electric and phone companies won't send my final bill to barbados
15:55.50CP|Laptopheh
15:55.51prpplagueCP|Laptop: so i had to give them my brother address
15:55.58T0mWprpplague: heh, they won't huh? LOL
15:56.04CP|LaptopYet another one of the issues with moving abroad
15:56.14CP|LaptopUnlike moving a broad, which has its own requirements
15:56.15T0mWprpplague: fuck 'em, leave
15:56.27prpplagueT0mW: hehe
15:56.41T0mWsend me your bill, maybe you'll collect
15:57.07prpplagueCP|Laptop: and....i can only transfer $300 a day from my bank in the US to my bank in barbados
15:57.52CP|Laptopheh
15:58.01CP|Laptopanti laundering laws
15:58.02CP|Laptop?
15:58.14prpplagueyea, stupid #$%#$%
15:58.25CP|LaptopCan't you get an exemption?
15:58.34prpplagueCP|Laptop: did you know the US in the only country that limits the amount you can get from an atm?
15:58.37T0mWprpplague: hey!  What do they expect, you're going to hang around for a few months just to "do the right thing" and wait for thier stupid final bill?
15:59.11prpplagueCP|Laptop: gonna just go get a cashiers check and deposit down there when i go
15:59.11CP|Laptopprpplague: well, you have to admit, even though it a PITA now, limiting ATM usage is probably a good thing
15:59.28prpplagueCP|Laptop: hows that?
15:59.29ade|deskprpplague: limited atms in the uk too, 250 squids / day
15:59.31T0mWCP|Laptop: maybe prpplague can give one of us his money and we'll send it to him?  :P
15:59.42prpplagueade|desk: when did they start that?
15:59.59ade|deskyears ago
15:59.59prpplagueT0mW: i don't think so......
16:00.05CP|Laptopprpplague: well, it limits the amount somebody can steal from you before you get to a phone and report the theft
16:00.07prpplagueade|desk: really? interesting
16:00.24T0mWprpplague: aw, you wouldn't trust *us* Dave?
16:00.25prpplagueCP|Laptop: yea, but it makes life a bitch when your overseas
16:00.26ade|deskprpplague: been the same since 97 at least
16:00.30CP|Laptopprpplague: granted
16:01.47prpplagueade|desk: still 250 quid is somewhat better than $300
16:01.52T0mWprpplague: hey, Dave, when that outfit in Germany bought "mytoys.com", they did a bank transfer of $50K.
16:02.41prpplagueT0mW: yea, but barbados is on the blacklist for money laundering
16:02.56T0mWprpplague: I did that through the lawyers at each end.
16:03.15prpplague~convert 300usd to bsp
16:03.21T0mWheh
16:03.36ade|desk~change 300 usd to gbp
16:03.59ade|desk~change 250 gbp to usd
16:04.20prpplagueade|desk: hmm, what does the G stand for? Great?
16:04.27ade|deskoh yes
16:04.49CP|LaptopSure ain't golly
16:04.59prpplagueodd, for some reason i was thinking is was bristish Silver Pound
16:05.09ade|desklol
16:05.14T0mWpounds sterling
16:05.53prpplague~lart prpplague
16:06.18T0mWprpplague: I predict that inside of a year you will be so sick of eating fish that you'll be asking us Stateside to send you beef
16:06.28ade|deskeither ibot is getting better or my humour is going tits up
16:06.33prpplagueT0mW: we have beef there
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16:06.42prpplagueT0mW: but i actually prefer goat
16:06.48T0mWlol
16:06.50prpplagueT0mW: or lamb
16:06.59CP|Laptopand that is prpplague in a nutshell... :)
16:07.07prpplagueCP|Laptop: hehe
16:07.07T0mWI like p*ssy...
16:07.27prpplagueT0mW: hehe, there is plenty of that there as well
16:07.36prpplagueT0mW: tons of british tourists
16:08.06ade|deskhands off our women !!!
16:09.19prpplaguehehe
16:09.31prpplagueCP|Laptop: thanks i needed that
16:09.42prpplagueCP|Laptop: 3 weeks without my woman is a long time
16:09.50CP|Laptopyea
16:10.00T0mWade|desk: he only wants to borrow them..
16:10.34prpplagueade|desk: you can fly to barbados from manchester cheaper than i can from the states
16:11.06prpplagueade|desk: bwi non stop is only like 175 quid
16:12.38prpplagueT0mW: i'm telling you, for a single guy, barbados is a _nice_ place
16:12.40ade|deskdoes mean having to go up to manky land though :(
16:13.14T0mWprpplague: "single fat guy"
16:13.35prpplagueT0mW: oh yea
16:14.05prpplagueT0mW: mainly becuase the men there treat their woman terribly
16:14.05T0mWI gotta lose some weight, I really packed on the pounds this past holiday season
16:14.27T0mWprpplague: must be American men that are in high demand
16:14.41T0mWprpplague: our women have us housebroken
16:14.46prpplagueT0mW: hehe, yea
16:15.24prpplagueT0mW: little stuff like, opening doors and flower go over big down there
16:15.47ade|deski am sure things take longer when you watch them
16:16.24ade|deskprpplague: and if you can find their clit ... your a god ... no doubt?
16:16.37CP|Laptopgood golly
16:16.38ade|desks/your/you're
16:16.48prpplaguehehe
16:17.00T0mWlol
16:17.22prpplagueade|desk: you have a way with words
16:17.36ade|deski does my best
16:17.50prpplaguethat movie rocks
16:18.40CroftonYes
16:18.57CroftonI have found the colonists have trouble with it though
16:19.48prpplagueCrofton: hehe, yea, other ppl i know are like "huh? i don't get it"
16:20.17CroftonMy half sister got it, she was born here, but still raised by my father
16:24.38prpplagueCrofton: it seems to be selling pretty well here, hehe, don't know how much copies end up getting traded back in though
16:26.34CroftonHeh, she said the people she went with weren't quite as enthuiastic :)
16:28.20ade|desksimon pegg is very funny
16:28.48ade|deskand ed's directorship is fantastic
16:29.23ade|deskguy i work with, his son is an extra in the film
16:29.47Croftoncool
16:30.01CroftonA friend of mone was an extra in War of the Worlds
16:30.10CroftonWe don't know if he will be on creen yet though
16:30.42ade|deskmy sister was in 'the beach' at the begining
16:34.00prpplaguelordy lordy
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17:23.54markl__shaun of the dead was enjoyable
17:44.33markl__CosmicPenguin: what's up
17:46.37CosmicPenguinmarkl_: ssdd
17:47.13CosmicPenguinPlaying office politics right now - our team plays in the open source model - we release early and often, and we fix bugs to increase stability
17:47.20CosmicPenguinUnfortunately, thats not how the rest of the company works
17:49.36markl__sounds painful
17:49.47CosmicPenguinmarkl_: thats life, I guess - these guys have been doing Windows and DOS all their life
17:49.57CosmicPenguinWe've really introduced much debate into the process
17:49.59CosmicPenguinwhich is good
17:50.36CosmicPenguinI just wish they would give us the heads before the day it was due
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18:19.00CosmicPenguinfile3: no need to ping me today, I'm on the warparth
18:19.06CosmicPenguinwarpath even
18:24.41prpplagueCosmicPenguin: the joys of working for a big company
18:24.49CosmicPenguinprpplague: indeed
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18:25.21CosmicPenguinprpplague: I think the good end result is that we're going to be doing all our development in private repositories now, so we can store it any way we want
18:25.22CosmicPenguinwoo-hoo!
18:45.24prpplaguehehe
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18:53.08[g2]I'm trying to understand lspci output on a 2.6 kernel for IXP420
18:53.42[g2]can someone point me in the proper direction for understanding devsel ?
18:54.01[g2]actually DEVSEL
18:55.09CosmicPenguinThats device select
18:55.30CosmicPenguinThese guys can help:  http://www.techfest.com/hardware/bus/pci.htm
18:55.35[g2]thx
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18:55.56prpplaguesjhill: yo!
18:56.21sjhillyo!
18:56.33prpplagueho ho and a bottle of rum
18:56.48sjhillheh
18:57.19prpplaguei hate it when i get stuck on a problem that just shouldn't be a problem
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18:57.48sjhillTimRiker: hey Timee
18:58.48cdmsjhill: You ever get that NPTL porting gig worked out?
18:59.14sjhillhuh, wha'?
18:59.25[g2]CosmicPenguin, Ok so a Status line from lspci says: Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
18:59.39cdmsjhill: wasn't that you?
18:59.53cdmsomeone was trying to get a gig porting NPTL to arm.
19:00.03sjhilloh, no
19:00.06sjhillthat wasn't me
19:00.09[g2]which means the lines UDF FastB2B ParErr are pulled low and DEVSEL is floating and not stuck high or low
19:00.10sjhilli don't do ARM
19:00.11sjhillMIPS
19:00.14cdmah
19:00.27cdmTimRiker: do you know who it was?
19:00.31cdmandersee probably does. :)
19:00.48prpplaguesjhill is ARM-less
19:01.06sjhillyeah, but i'm hung like a bear
19:01.17prpplaguehehe
19:01.20[g2]I could send sjhill an NSLU2 :)
19:01.33CosmicPenguin[g2]: I don't know if it means that its floating, or if it has to do with the relative speed that the device can respond to its address
19:01.42[g2]but you might call that strong-arming him :)
19:01.51prpplagueok, i have a concerned when a reference doc is written by S.Foust
19:01.52sjhillstop! stop!
19:02.35[g2]CosmicPenguin, thx...
19:02.41kergothheh
19:02.42CosmicPenguinprpplague: better then Alan Smithee
19:02.56prpplaguehehe, since this writen by Foust, could this be called a Foustian Document?
19:07.44CosmicPenguin~fishslap prpplague
19:07.46ibotACTION slaps prpplague up side the head with a wet fish.
19:07.49CosmicPenguinThats too clever!
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19:14.00TimRikercdm: nope.
19:15.50TimRikermy h2 omap when I enable the touch screen sends events through /dev/input/mice but all events appear to happen at 0,0
19:16.10TimRikerkernel is 2.6.9 if you're curious.
19:16.21TimRikerkergoth: is there a calibration I need to do? and how?
19:23.07kergothTimRiker: never used /dev/input/mice for a touchscreen before.  wouldnt advise it
19:23.19kergothcould work.. /me shrugs
19:24.28kergoththe preferred method nowadays is to use /dev/input/event for touchscreen events, and to use tslib to get them from it and calibrate and things
19:24.54hardwireI love you all
19:29.27sjhillthat's fine....i'm still not going to hold your hand though
19:35.34hardwireheh.
19:35.37hardwirehmm
19:35.55hardwireI wish this cool UPS surge protector wasn't so.. huge.
19:36.00hardwireerr
19:36.00hardwireAPC
19:36.17hardwireits a right angle outlet mount surge protector
19:36.24hardwireand they sorta failed to make it have a through hole.
19:36.46hardwireso it sorta can fall out at any minute/tug/whatever
19:36.50hardwirekinda lame
19:36.51hardwireoh well
19:36.56hardwireso is me bawking about it
19:36.58hardwirebawk bawk
19:43.57prpplaguesjhill: any experience with mmc in spi mode?
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19:44.04sjhillnope
19:44.44prpplaguesjhill: bummer
19:44.52prpplaguesjhill: know anyone?
19:45.10sjhillnot off hand i'm afraid
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20:00.29prpplague@#^%@%^@%^
20:00.29kbotprpplague: Error: "#^%@%^@%^" is not a valid command.
20:00.34prpplaguehehe
20:01.42prpplaguethis mmc/sd is driving me nuts
20:01.44CosmicPenguinhah
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21:26.39kergothCosmicPenguin: got descriptions working
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21:26.42kergoth:)
21:41.15CosmicPenguinyou are way out of control
21:41.26CosmicPenguinwho volunteers to write m4? :)
21:43.15kergothmuahaha
21:43.34kergoth:P
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21:59.57CosmicPenguinscrew this
22:00.25kergothhehe
22:00.39CosmicPenguinOr maybe I'll clean my office
22:00.41CosmicPenguinsomething, I guess
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22:10.13CosmicPenguinthere you go, that was productive
22:11.21prpplaguewahoo, got my mmc/sd stuff working
22:11.25CosmicPenguinprpplague: nice
22:11.36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: teach me to trust someone elses code
22:11.53prpplagueCosmicPenguin: not!
22:11.54CosmicPenguinprpplague: heh
22:13.22kergothCosmicPenguin: can you think of a use case where you'd want to specify static vs shared for individual plugins in a pluginset?
22:13.28kergothor just for the whole?
22:13.39CosmicPenguinI think just for the whole
22:14.13CosmicPenguinAs a developer i wouldn't want to try to mess with building in some, and pluging in others
22:14.19kergothif you want a further breakdown than that, you could always use seperate pluginsets.. if its really required
22:14.21CosmicPenguinNo reason to have both infrastructures sitting around, specially for embedded
22:14.25hardwirehttp://www.nooutage.com/images/air403-watts.jpg
22:14.25hardwirehey
22:14.34hardwireso.. if this is a 12v wind turbine
22:14.43hardwireand we are going to get a constant 15mph
22:14.50hardwirewhich is like.. 500+ watts
22:14.52hardwirethats what
22:14.55kergothCosmicPenguin: do you think its useful to be able to switch to a mode where each plugin gets its own --enable cmdline option, rather than one big comma-seperated one, like alsa?
22:14.58hardwire500/12 to get A?
22:15.17hardwireso ~40Amps
22:15.25kergothi.e. K_PLUGINS_ARGMODE(KP_MANY) vs K_PLUGINS_ARGMODE(KP_ONE)
22:15.26hardwirethat would charge my batteries in about 4 hours
22:15.32hardwireno generator needed.
22:15.38hardwiredoes that sound sane at all?
22:16.35prpplagueahhh, nothing more gratifing that seeing the GPL being read from a mmc card
22:16.39CosmicPenguinkergoth: wouldn't that make ./configure --help look scary?
22:16.39prpplagues/that/than
22:16.59CosmicPenguinprpplague: heh - you use the GPL text as a sample file?
22:17.14kergothCosmicPenguin: yep, that it does
22:17.18kergothoh, i nkow
22:17.23kergothi'll add the valid plugins to the help output
22:17.25kergoththatll be sufficient
22:18.06CosmicPenguinThough, having individual --enable-<foo> in alsa would be really nice
22:18.28kergothi'll look into adding it, but after i finish the rest of the stuff like static vs shared
22:18.31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea
22:18.40CosmicPenguinprpplague: I love it
22:18.47prpplagueCosmicPenguin: just dd'd onto the card
22:18.57CosmicPenguinI'm going to start doing that
22:19.29CosmicPenguinHehe - I love it when something goes out over e-mail, and then a few minutes later "Bob would like to recall message "blah""
22:19.29prpplagueCosmicPenguin: it was either the GPL or some ascii art of pamela anderson
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22:19.53CosmicPenguinnice
22:20.15CosmicPenguinprpplague: you can take the programmer out of texas, but you can't take texas out of the programmer... :)
22:20.30prpplaguehehe
22:20.36kergothhmm
22:20.43kergothwonder how to add newlines to AS_HELP_STRING output
22:24.12prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, jtag'n on a mini bootloader, which inits the mmc, reads the new bootloader, kernel, and fs images, flashes, and then reboots
22:24.45CosmicPenguinnice
22:25.03prpplagueCosmicPenguin: takes about 2 minutes to go from brick to loaded
22:31.49[g2]prpplague, hey do I know that bootloader ? :)
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22:32.45prpplague[g2]: nope
22:32.49prpplague[g2]: custom
22:33.02prpplague[g2]: should be adding the code to apex soon
22:33.09[g2]cool
22:33.46prpplague[g2]: of course its only for the sharp LH79520 right now
22:33.59prpplague[g2]: probably need to break it into two parts
22:34.09prpplague[g2]: one generic spi, the other specific to the platform
22:34.36prpplague[g2]: writing a kernel block driver should be too difficult
22:34.45prpplagues/should/shouldn't
22:35.36prpplaguehehe, i think mmc/sd via spi rocks
22:35.48prpplaguemakes small projects easier
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22:45.51kergothCosmicPenguin: got AM_CONDITIONALs working.  up next is shared vs static, and per plugin flags.
22:46.16kergoth:)
22:47.00CosmicPenguinscary
22:47.25kergothAM_CONDITIONAL(m4_join([],[ENABLE_PLUGIN],m4_toupper($1),[_],m4_toupper($2)), test x"kp[$1]_[$2]_enabled" = "xyes")
22:48.29CosmicPenguinI think thats what the Angel Gabriel says to open the 7th seal
22:56.39CosmicPenguinchouimat: buit in text to speech?
22:56.47CosmicPenguinAnd people wonder why I bad mouth KDE
22:57.04kergothCosmicPenguin: round one of those macros is in libfoo svn
22:57.08kergoth:)
22:57.47CosmicPenguinkergoth: saw the message
22:57.58CosmicPenguinyoung children are scattering as we speak
23:09.49prpplaguecorrection
23:10.05prpplaguelater folks
23:15.26chouimatinternational symbol for marriage: http://ulyx.ath.cx/Marriage.jpg
23:25.15CosmicPenguinEvery time he posts a pic from that website, its never good
23:25.23kergothhehe
23:25.46CosmicPenguinUgh....
23:25.52CosmicPenguinVanilla Ice
23:25.57CosmicPenguinHow the hell did that get on my mp3 system?
23:26.01chouimatCosmicPenguin: this one is good
23:26.02CosmicPenguins/system/server/
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23:28.46CosmicPenguinI definately think this was the best of their albums
23:29.25kergoththeir latest?
23:29.33CosmicPenguinYeah
23:30.06kergotheep, i'm in m4 quoting madness again
23:30.06kergothhmm
23:43.08CosmicPenguin"That makes me think that working sleep on USB today is just a matter of luck"
23:43.11CosmicPenguinAmen
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