| 00:07.49 | TimRiker | thanx. I'll check em out. |
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| 03:52.41 | Russ | dammit |
| 03:52.43 | Russ | bash: /bin/dmesg: Input/output error |
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| 05:01.32 | Russ | so anyway |
| 05:01.57 | Russ | I was at work today coding API for our multifunction laser device (ranging, IR illumination, IR aiming dot, visible aiming dot, etc) |
| 05:02.50 | Russ | and I wanted some info on one of the weapons it mounts on, the heckler koch XM8 |
| 05:03.02 | Russ | so I try to go to hecklerkock-usa.com |
| 05:03.10 | Russ | ..."this site has been filtered"... |
| 05:03.20 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 05:03.26 | Russ | ok, world.guns.ru |
| 05:03.28 | Russ | ..."this site has been filtered"... |
| 05:03.44 | file[laptop] | I try to go to the asterisk internal developer site from school, blocked :) |
| 05:03.47 | Russ | they filtered every site that has information on military rifles at the corporate level |
| 05:03.47 | file[laptop] | not a clue why |
| 05:04.06 | Russ | probably a bunch of gun control nut jobs or something |
| 05:04.38 | Russ | do they not realize that there are multiple defense divisions in the company that design systems that kill people? |
| 05:04.51 | Russ | you'd think that we could handle a few pictures of assult rifles |
| 05:05.01 | Russ | but no, shield their eyes, sheild their virgin eyes! |
| 05:07.24 | Russ | I tried looking up info on benydril at work one day |
| 05:07.34 | Russ | they site was blocked because it had information about drugs |
| 05:08.30 | file[laptop] | conspiracy. |
| 05:10.14 | Russ | no, just stupid corporate think |
| 05:10.21 | Russ | we all must use lotus notes for instance |
| 05:11.12 | Russ | also, even though its an international corporation with millions of employees, we have to use an 800 number to enter our time. Online time entry would cost our office more |
| 05:23.58 | file[laptop] | uh huh |
| 05:51.20 | T0mW | Russ: prolly is the corporate lawyers saying "if you let them view gun websites, then a disgruntled employee shoots someone, then you could be held liable for fostering an atmosphere of ..." |
| 05:52.24 | T0mW | parnoia, buddy tells me of the "attitude adjustment", a.k.a "sensitivity seminars" he attends at InTel |
| 05:59.37 | Russ | what part of, we build things that kill people do they not understand? |
| 06:00.29 | T0mW | yeah |
| 06:01.02 | T0mW | "but we only advocate the use of deadly force by qualified people" |
| 06:01.21 | T0mW | I think it is the litigation crap, sue everybody. |
| 06:01.59 | T0mW | when a light plane crashes they sue everyone, from the mfgr of the fuel guage to the tire manufacturer |
| 06:02.55 | T0mW | I worked at a company where our alarm equipment reported a fire, then were later sued becuase we didn't report it sooner. |
| 06:03.39 | T0mW | one of the first questions the lawyer asked when they contacted us: "who is your liability carrier?" |
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| 16:29.10 | Sgt-Donan | re |
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| 18:53.18 | CosmicPenguin | Ugh - ok |
| 18:53.54 | CosmicPenguin | On Redhat 9 - when you exited a vc, the screen was cleared and the login prompt was printed at the top |
| 18:54.06 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone know the mechanism for how they did that? |
| 18:54.42 | cdm | Doesn't getty run a script for ya when it reopens a terminal? |
| 18:55.53 | CosmicPenguin | Possibly |
| 18:56.08 | CosmicPenguin | I thought that there might be a command in the /etc/issue, but so far I'm coiming up blank |
| 18:56.17 | CosmicPenguin | the vanilla agetty doesn't have anything like that |
| 18:57.23 | chouimat | roftl |
| 18:57.25 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: say, any status of operation 'file loves mambo'? |
| 18:58.25 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: you don't have it yet? |
| 18:58.26 | CosmicPenguin | welll crapoloa |
| 18:58.28 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: suggest tracking it. |
| 18:58.33 | CosmicPenguin | if its sitting on the shipping guys desk, I'm gonna send *him* to Canada |
| 18:58.46 | file[laptop] | suggest yelling loudly |
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| 19:03.44 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: which shell? |
| 19:03.53 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: bash, I think |
| 19:04.02 | chouimat | try bash.logout |
| 19:04.14 | CosmicPenguin | in /etc? |
| 19:04.22 | chouimat | yes and .bash.logout too |
| 19:06.23 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: nice - I think that was it |
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| 21:33.14 | Sgt-Donan | bn all |
| 21:33.35 | sjhill | bn? |
| 21:34.40 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: you don't have a company I can ship to? |
| 21:34.46 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: my company is being pedandically idiotic |
| 21:34.53 | CosmicPenguin | and idiotically pedantic |
| 21:35.41 | file[laptop] | you can ship it under the name of the company I work for... |
| 21:35.48 | file[laptop] | VoiceConduits LLC |
| 21:35.59 | hardwire | woot |
| 21:36.04 | hardwire | file[laptop]: snom 320 is perty |
| 21:36.11 | hardwire | kinda tyco in its construction.. |
| 21:36.15 | file[laptop] | tried their pbx yet? |
| 21:36.16 | hardwire | but perty none-the-less |
| 21:36.19 | hardwire | file[laptop]: I am tempted |
| 21:36.26 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: same address? |
| 21:36.27 | hardwire | the IP PBX that is the media server and sip proxy/reg |
| 21:36.30 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 21:36.34 | hardwire | just for simplicity sake |
| 21:36.36 | hardwire | have you |
| 21:36.44 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: what was their argument for not sending it? |
| 21:39.15 | file[laptop] | hardwire: you should see if you can get pricing on their pbx in a box |
| 21:41.02 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: shipping to a person means we would have to pay for duties out of our own pocket |
| 21:41.20 | file[laptop] | and by sending to a company it means... |
| 21:42.07 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: if its going to a company, then AMD picks up the tab |
| 21:42.21 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: evil, this is truly evil |
| 21:42.57 | CosmicPenguin | This is another reason why every engineer should have an LLC and pony up the 50 buck renewal fee every year |
| 21:47.33 | file[laptop] | how much is one of those normally? |
| 21:52.31 | file[laptop] | cause if asterisk runs nicely on it, I could really imagine it being used as a VoIP demarcation device in businesses... as a link to a central provider for termination/origination and internal calling |
| 21:53.17 | CosmicPenguin | When they go on sale, they'll be sub 200 |
| 21:53.22 | CosmicPenguin | how sub, I can't tell you yet... :) |
| 21:53.28 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 21:54.27 | CosmicPenguin | What I can tell you is that once they do go on sale, everybody here has to buy 3 |
| 21:55.01 | file[laptop] | I'm moving to a small town, lots of bandwidth... could you imagine one of these at every business acting as the phone system |
| 21:55.16 | file[laptop] | connected back to a centralized system for calls, and for internal town calls... it just goes internally... |
| 21:55.18 | file[laptop] | DUNDi... ooh |
| 21:57.47 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:58.15 | CosmicPenguin | The geode can definately be your friend in that case - I think it can handle a good chuck of it |
| 21:58.22 | CosmicPenguin | though the transcoding is a bit worriesome |
| 21:58.31 | file[laptop] | I'm going to do some testing :) |
| 21:58.39 | file[laptop] | I have the G729 source so I can tweak it for the geode |
| 21:58.56 | file[laptop] | gonna see what it can do |
| 21:59.45 | hardwire | file[laptop]: what do you need to know about their stuff? |
| 21:59.59 | file[laptop] | hardwire: I was just curious, they didn't have much info at VON |
| 22:00.12 | hardwire | $5995.00 |
| 22:00.17 | file[laptop] | ripoff. |
| 22:00.20 | hardwire | for just the software |
| 22:00.23 | file[laptop] | er I mean, nice! |
| 22:00.44 | hardwire | $22,500.00 for their mMS + Reg + Nat |
| 22:00.53 | hardwire | its a huge ripoff |
| 22:00.57 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 22:01.02 | hardwire | but I would love to be making that kind of money |
| 22:01.09 | file[laptop] | you should act interested and get a demo and see how it is |
| 22:01.11 | hardwire | so maybe I should go rip-off a few people. |
| 22:01.21 | hardwire | file[laptop]: I work with abptech.. they are in snoms pants it seems |
| 22:01.24 | hardwire | I should be able to procure the box |
| 22:01.27 | file[laptop] | ooh |
| 22:01.44 | hardwire | snoms having issues |
| 22:02.03 | file[laptop] | the fact they're swedish is an issue :p |
| 22:02.04 | hardwire | mainly with royaltees from the plastic injection manufacturer |
| 22:02.08 | hardwire | which I though was amazingly stupid |
| 22:02.11 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 22:02.16 | hardwire | I should refer them to my friends in colorado that do this |
| 22:02.34 | CosmicPenguin | and who are? |
| 22:02.43 | hardwire | I think they ppay royalties because they aren't quite bulk |
| 22:02.52 | hardwire | maybe TimRiker knows how that works.. |
| 22:03.12 | hardwire | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 22:04.07 | CosmicPenguin | hardwire: this is the point where you give your friends a free plug |
| 22:04.35 | hardwire | :) |
| 22:04.52 | hardwire | Kent Systems (Loveland) and Ingenium Industrial Design (Denver) |
| 22:04.56 | hardwire | both are mentors of mine |
| 22:05.43 | hardwire | Kent is a spinoff of VP (Value Plastics) who do medical grade plastic injection.. Kent is the owners father who uses non medical grade to do similar fittings for industrial purposes |
| 22:05.58 | hardwire | and ingenium can make the molds. |
| 22:06.07 | hardwire | my good friend Kevin Lee |
| 22:06.13 | hardwire | master of all things metal |
| 22:06.22 | hardwire | </plug> |
| 22:07.15 | CosmicPenguin | Alright - if I have a need for such things, I'll give em a ring |
| 22:07.27 | CosmicPenguin | Always nice to know who does what |
| 22:08.10 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: any other VoIP potential stuff appearing? |
| 22:09.19 | CosmicPenguin | not officially, but I don't think it would hurt to see more geodes doing voipish things |
| 22:09.25 | hardwire | file[laptop]: the 360 has 12 line buttons |
| 22:09.31 | hardwire | including an option for "shared lines" |
| 22:09.34 | hardwire | which creeps me out |
| 22:09.41 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 22:09.50 | hardwire | phone |
| 22:09.51 | hardwire | bbl |
| 22:10.01 | hardwire | talking to abp soon to see if I can get mini pbx |
| 22:10.12 | hardwire | that small even |
| 22:11.02 | hardwire | yup |
| 22:12.53 | file[laptop] | I'm doing too much VoIP stuff |
| 22:13.04 | file[laptop] | VoIP hardware, calling cards, residental service, wholesale... |
| 22:13.11 | hardwire | and I was just about to contract you to do more |
| 22:13.19 | file[laptop] | what do you need? |
| 22:13.19 | hardwire | talk to David.. |
| 22:13.23 | hardwire | we can JV most of this |
| 22:13.25 | hardwire | :) |
| 22:13.34 | file[laptop] | translate: what did you need? |
| 22:13.46 | file[laptop] | I mean the hardware is on my own time, as is calling cards + residental service with a few friends |
| 22:14.20 | file[laptop] | but if you have something you need, say it my dear hardwire! |
| 22:16.33 | hardwire | most of what you just mentioned |
| 22:16.37 | hardwire | I have some fun ideas as well |
| 22:17.00 | hardwire | including bounty fullfillment |
| 22:17.06 | file[laptop] | ooh |
| 22:17.09 | file[laptop] | nifty |
| 22:17.15 | hardwire | I would do a 1-1 bounty match |
| 22:17.17 | hardwire | to contractors |
| 22:18.00 | hardwire | where we would semi-recover costs by collecting the bounties |
| 22:18.02 | hardwire | as a company |
| 22:18.14 | hardwire | and the contractor would be working on multiple bounties |
| 22:18.20 | hardwire | under a contract with the bounty issuers |
| 22:18.27 | hardwire | via me. |
| 22:18.38 | file[laptop] | sounds fun |
| 22:18.48 | hardwire | needs to be plotted for due dilligence. |
| 22:18.49 | hardwire | but yeh |
| 22:18.55 | hardwire | there are other things |
| 22:19.02 | hardwire | military services |
| 22:20.36 | hardwire | so far teliax is going to help out a lot just w/ their hosting |
| 22:20.41 | hardwire | I like him a lot for doing this. |
| 22:21.00 | hardwire | we are getting $100.00/mo per 4u |
| 22:21.12 | hardwire | directly connected to their systems.. no IP service charges |
| 22:21.17 | hardwire | flat $100.00/mo |
| 22:21.30 | file[laptop] | wow |
| 22:21.32 | file[laptop] | that's insane |
| 22:21.35 | hardwire | I know |
| 22:21.41 | hardwire | I know David D is bogged down still |
| 22:21.46 | hardwire | I pretty much had to go this route |
| 22:21.55 | hardwire | and it ended up in my favor for a few things |
| 22:22.03 | file[laptop] | meh people are refusing to pay their bills |
| 22:22.03 | hardwire | but they are still slighltly high on their minutes |
| 22:22.14 | hardwire | sounds like he has to kick the shit out of a few people |
| 22:22.24 | hardwire | probably $5.000+/mo clients? |
| 22:22.43 | file[laptop] | livevoip owes us $25,000 |
| 22:22.50 | hardwire | did you terminate service? |
| 22:22.55 | hardwire | can you under the contract? |
| 22:23.01 | file[laptop] | not quite |
| 22:23.03 | hardwire | because of the nature of the service. |
| 22:23.13 | file[laptop] | he can sue, then we countersue, and it just end badly |
| 22:23.17 | file[laptop] | already been to the lawyers |
| 22:23.42 | file[laptop] | retargetted |
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| 22:35.50 | hardwire | kergoth: xfce 4.2 |
| 22:35.57 | hardwire | lets admire that together |
| 22:36.06 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 22:37.59 | hardwire | w/ a growing taskbar that keeps the panel 100% screen width |
| 22:38.20 | hardwire | "You scream.. I scream.. everybody screams.." |
| 22:38.24 | hardwire | "for morphine.." |
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| 23:40.44 | kergoth | Acid Bath? not familiar with them |
| 23:40.50 | kergoth | sounds industrial |
| 23:43.09 | hardwire | its something |
| 23:43.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:43.32 | hardwire | look for it on your thingy |
| 23:43.35 | hardwire | uberblah |
| 23:43.43 | hardwire | Acid Bath - Peagen Terrorism Tactics |
| 23:43.57 | hardwire | track 11 is cool |
| 23:44.00 | kergoth | wow, theres only one acid bath album on ubernet |
| 23:44.02 | hardwire | its all about uhm.. very bad things |
| 23:44.16 | kergoth | acid bath - 1994 - edits |
| 23:44.21 | hardwire | weird |
| 23:44.45 | kergoth | hgahaha, my download is still going |
| 23:44.49 | kergoth | last night this download got started right |
| 23:44.53 | kergoth | going 550 bytes per second |
| 23:44.59 | kergoth | its still goin .. 528 bytes per second now |
| 23:45.19 | kergoth | but no one else has this album.. no choice |
| 23:45.29 | hardwire | blow |
| 23:45.44 | hardwire | you are now getting acid bathed |
| 23:45.46 | hardwire | in my /home/ |
| 23:45.49 | kergoth | k |
| 23:46.01 | kergoth | you know wumpscut? or blutengel? or .. assemblage 23? |
| 23:46.03 | hardwire | it took me a while |
| 23:46.05 | hardwire | but I love this album |
| 23:46.07 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 23:46.09 | hardwire | like.. it took a year |
| 23:46.16 | kergoth | heh, wow |
| 23:46.28 | hardwire | maybe I just wasn't into this kind of music during that time |
| 23:47.39 | chouimat | wow Zeta is cool |
| 23:47.49 | hardwire | Zeta? |
| 23:48.03 | chouimat | hardwire: BeOS new version |
| 23:48.11 | hardwire | I wanna play |
| 23:48.18 | chouimat | hardwire: www.yellowtab.com |
| 23:48.27 | chouimat | hardwire: torrent on the net |
| 23:48.32 | hardwire | do they have a livecd? |
| 23:48.39 | chouimat | hardwire: no |
| 23:48.45 | hardwire | poor! |
| 23:49.15 | chouimat | hardwire: currently installing it on my old p200mmx (on the beos partition) |
| 23:55.38 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: oh, picked up a CF reader... |
| 23:55.56 | CosmicPenguin | file[laptop]: did you get your 50 pin ide->cf adapater yet? |
| 23:56.48 | file[laptop] | it's not exactly a common thing to get 'round here |
| 23:57.17 | file[laptop] | it's coming with a 64MB CF isn't it? |
| 23:57.37 | hardwire | I have a billion laying around |
| 23:57.46 | file[laptop] | billion, yay |
| 23:57.48 | hardwire | if you need a CF adapter |
| 23:58.07 | hardwire | just froogle one too :) |
| 23:58.26 | file[laptop] | so - what do I need it for exactly? |
| 23:59.37 | CosmicPenguin | Its coming with a 64MB DOM |
| 23:59.40 | CosmicPenguin | which is a disk on module |
| 23:59.58 | CosmicPenguin | for rapid development far easier to pull it out and plug in the adapter |