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12:47.45chouimatmorning
12:48.42T0mWchouimat: morning
12:49.12T0mWchouimat: the grass is getting greener
12:49.30T0mWchouimat: buds on the tree branches
12:49.38T0mWchouimat: you think "it" is over?
12:51.06chouimatT0mW: I have a sun burn on my head
12:53.10T0mWheh, I've been seriously thinking of shaving all my hair off
12:53.44T0mWI've never done it and I wonder what it would be like.
12:54.53prpplagueT0mW: oh its fun
12:54.54prpplagueT0mW: if you decide to actually shave it, make sure you do it in the shower
12:54.54prpplagueT0mW: else you _will_ cut yourself
12:55.16T0mWprpplague: good morning old man!  
12:55.33prpplagueT0mW: lo crack ho
12:55.36T0mWheh
12:56.16T0mWwell, as I understand it, I can shave it off or I can shave it close (razor vs clippers).  
12:57.32T0mWum, the eyebrows stay
12:58.49prpplagueT0mW: yea, clippers are easy
12:59.28prpplagueT0mW: if the razor it, i usually use about 2 razors a week, and about 1 can of cream every two weeks
12:59.34prpplagues/the/you
13:00.48T0mWwow, I use that new Mach3 from Gilette, those suckers are expensive.  I guess I'll have to start buying 99cent Bic disposables or something
13:02.06T0mWWell, it is something I've thought about, I'd like to do it while I have the "option" of not having any hair on my head.  :)
13:02.20prpplagueT0mW: you don't want to use those, you really need a 3 blade
13:02.47prpplagueT0mW: the dollar general stores sell a really nice 3 blade thats a knock off of gillet disposables
13:02.50T0mWah, ok.  Yeah the triple blade gives a much nicer shave and it is harder to cut yourself with them
13:03.51T0mWit'll sure be interesting to learn to shave my scalp.  I think that I could shave my face with my eyes closed after doing it for so many years
13:04.22T0mWWell, this week anyway.  it is getting warm enough to try it.
13:04.46prpplagueT0mW: the back of your head around where your  neck starts is the most prone to getting cut
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13:05.17T0mW~lart GPSFan
13:05.29T0mWGPSFan: welcome to Monday
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13:20.35T0mWanyone ever use that ndiswrapper stuff to get a windoze PCMCIA card working under linux?
13:20.50T0mWhow well does it work?
13:29.31prpplaguenot me
13:34.07GPSFanT0mW: howdy,
13:34.43T0mW:)
13:36.03GPSFanT0mW: what's new,you survive the winter?
13:39.59T0mWGPSFan: almost didn't this year, the melancholy nearly did me in.
13:40.44T0mWheh, but this time of year I usually pull out of it.  the Month of March is always a bitch waiting for winter to finally go away
13:43.14T0mWjust getting ready to deploy the first new store system today.  Last Wednesday I deployed some of the new system, the gateway and server software.  That went to shit in a hurry!  It took two days of intensive work to figure out all that I broke!
13:43.59T0mWnever ever never use a version 2.0 server and 1.x clients! :(
13:44.35T0mWI think that I now appreciate what a major revision number can mean
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13:55.09GPSFanT0mW: yeah, that's one problem with working for yourself, sometimes it helps to have external (sometimes irrational) goals set...
13:56.17GPSFanT0mW: on the other hand, it's good for the attitude to be able to take off for a few days any time you like ;>)
14:02.22T0mWGPSFan: yeah, time off is good. I can schedule my time, sometimes, to take a few days off an goof around.
14:03.58T0mWI've been looking at using the LPC21xx series of ARM controllers from Philips in a design.  Pretty interesting parts.  I'm hoping that I can wangle an Abatron BDI-2000 jtag unit out of the proposal
14:04.27T0mWplus some profit, profit is a good thing
14:08.04T0mWI got a quote on the BDI-2000 with gnu gdb interface for $3100
14:08.15prpplagueyikes
14:08.31prpplagueT0mW: i knew they were expensive, but....
14:08.32T0mWyeah, well, it is about the best unit I can find.
14:08.47prpplagueT0mW: yea, everyone says its good
14:08.59prpplagueT0mW: i still like my HG dongle, hehe
14:09.20T0mWit would be better if it was $200, but I hope that by having one of those it will make development a whole lot easier for a wide range of ARM chips?
14:09.48prpplagueT0mW: yea, makes the dev time alot shorter
14:09.53T0mWprpplague: the thing about the dongle is that I cannot seem to find any driver software to use a dongle with gdb
14:10.08prpplagueT0mW: jelie
14:10.20T0mWgrape?
14:10.34T0mW~jelie
14:11.04prpplaguehttp://lapwww.epfl.ch/dev/arm/jelie/index.php
14:11.06T0mWibot: jelie ?
14:12.04T0mWprpplague: what are you using it on, what target(s)
14:12.11prpplagueT0mW: lh79520
14:12.15T0mWah
14:12.31T0mWprpplague: and you can go source level with user code?
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14:13.01prpplagueyep
14:14.04T0mWok, thanks, I'll give Jelie a try.  I'm laying the board out now.  Interesting problem is that I need an isolated power supply and isolated RS232 to hook into the equipment (ground fault detection is really sensitive).  
14:14.29prpplagueyea, we do something similiar with out handhelds for the rs-232
14:14.35prpplagueT0mW: which cpu?
14:14.49T0mWI've found a Linear Technologies chip to give me an isolated +5 supply using a special Dale transformer.
14:15.20prpplaguewell crimons, i leave the states and all of a sudden i start getting all kinds of job offers
14:15.54T0mWprpplague: LPC2138 or LPC2106, first board will be the 2106.  the LPC2106 is 128K of flash + 64K of SRAM.
14:16.26prpplagueT0mW: ahh
14:16.37T0mWIIRC the LPC2138 is 512K flash + 32K of SRAM.  The ram is going to be pretty tight at 32K
14:17.08T0mWI've got about 9 programs to cram inside the thing.
14:17.47T0mWwell, flavors of programs.  there is a large common code and each flavor is about 6..8K of differnce
14:18.14T0mWheh, I'd like to make this thing about the size of stick of gum
14:18.26T0mWincluding connectors
14:20.39prpplagueT0mW: thats doable
14:28.50kergoth`zzzmorning
14:30.17T0mWfsking windoze tweakui is a peice of junk
14:30.36T0mWtheir autologin is sooooo broken
14:30.57T0mWscrew it
14:34.39prpplaguekergoth: hey
14:34.44prpplaguekergoth: when ya moving?
14:35.37kergothwhenever i stop procrastinating the packing
14:36.00prpplaguehehe
14:36.00T0mWkergoth: packing is always best done at the very last minute
14:36.27T0mWyou won't be able to find anything anyway so why bother being neat about it?
14:37.06kergothhehe
14:37.20T0mWkergoth: ask Dave, he knows!
14:37.30prpplaguehehe, yea
14:38.00T0mW"now where did I put the usb cable for the digital camera?!"
14:38.40T0mWkergoth: oh!  most important thing: mark the box with the coffee maker so *that* is easy to find!
14:39.04T0mWyou'll need the coffee as you'll be up for days finding stuff
14:39.07kergothhehe
14:39.28kergothi dont own a coffee maker.  dont like normal coffee, and i couldnt justify buying an expensive espresso machine.  starbucks will do
14:39.34kergoth;)
14:39.55prpplaguehehe, i'm an instant coffee man
14:40.04T0mWyuk, bleah!
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14:57.38CosmicPenguinmorning
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20:13.38file[laptop]CosmicPenguin: poke
20:13.43CosmicPenguinOh, crap
20:13.51file[laptop]IT'S ME!
20:13.57CosmicPenguinListen pal, I don't know who you think you are....
20:14.11file[laptop]I'm file, that's who I think I am
20:14.17file[laptop]and I appear to be using my laptop according to my nickname
20:15.21file[laptop]waddup?
20:15.59file[laptop]yay you're on it
20:16.31CosmicPenguinYeah, sort of
20:16.45file[laptop]uh oh
20:20.20CosmicPenguinI'm building a new image right now to test out your kernel
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20:51.58file[laptop]yay CosmicPenguin
20:52.29CosmicPenguinfile[laptop]: if it works, I'm not entirely sure what to do next
20:58.27CosmicPenguinIf its the dom, I'm gonna be p i double s'ed
20:59.00file[laptop]so, what do you actually do @ AMD?
20:59.07CosmicPenguinYell at people
20:59.14CosmicPenguinI'm an official people yeller
20:59.16file[laptop]ah
20:59.22CosmicPenguinOh, and I go to meetings, like the one I'm going to right now... :)
20:59.28file[laptop]ooh aah
20:59.31file[laptop]to, meet?
20:59.33CosmicPenguinfile[laptop]: nah - actually I'm supposed to be a LInux Engineer... :)
20:59.42CosmicPenguinAt least thats what it says in my e-mail signature
20:59.56file[laptop]yay Linux engineer
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22:09.56CosmicPenguinbitbake go boom
22:14.02file[laptop]boooooooom
22:15.20file[laptop]how was the meeting
22:15.40CosmicPenguinboring
22:15.49file[laptop]big surprise
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23:00.02CosmicPenguinfile[laptop]: you're #1 on my todo list tommorrow
23:04.25TimRikerhttp://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf
23:06.51volhey guys anyone interested in a tmobile sidekick linux distro?
23:08.43TimRikerblackberry would be real nice.
23:09.28TimRikersilly blackberry has irda but can't use it. has usb but won't work as a modem (well, at least with tmibile)
23:09.53TimRikerme speaks of the 7230 model. I think the later skinny ugly keyboard model works as a modem.
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