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| 00:15.51 | jacques | prpplague, I forgot to mention handhelds.org and LAB |
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| 01:28.53 | TimRiker | prpplague: not heard on the zipit. last word was they wanted $10 more |
| 01:40.46 | MonMotha | TimRiker: are you by chance experienced with Cadence? |
| 01:42.13 | fishhead | mon you there ? |
| 02:02.55 | [g2]-away | TimRiker, $10 for what ? |
| 02:27.40 | TimRiker | MonMotha: nope. |
| 02:27.59 | TimRiker | [g2]: $10 more to buy a zipit that is going to be disected. |
| 02:28.44 | MonMotha | TimRiker: consider yourself lucky |
| 02:29.08 | [g2] | TimRiker, what are you looking for in the disection ? |
| 02:29.37 | [g2] | ~whois [g2] |
| 02:29.47 | ibot | i guess [g2] is really cool, and an an all around nice guy! Also he is a real funny guy, the master of NSLU2 Buildroot and a known Slug Sacrificer. And editor of SlugNews. |
| 02:29.47 | TimRiker | g2 tracing out the serial and gpio ports etc. |
| 02:30.21 | TimRiker | does nslu2 buildroot use the stuff andersee and I hacked up? |
| 02:30.39 | [g2] | that's a 10 month old comment |
| 02:30.47 | TimRiker | heh |
| 02:30.56 | TimRiker | ~factinfo [g2] |
| 02:30.56 | ibot | [g2] -- last modified at Sun Oct 31 01:17:16 2004 by rwhitby-away!~rwhitby@CPE-144-136-199-164.sa.bigpond.net.au; it has been requested 13 times, last by [g2], 1m 9s ago. |
| 02:31.41 | [g2] | that update was for the slug news |
| 02:32.20 | [g2] | however, it was the modified BR2 |
| 02:32.34 | [g2] | and some 1.00 pre before that |
| 02:33.18 | [g2] | before when the core builds ran off make's from CVS instead of OE builds |
| 02:34.45 | TimRiker | ah |
| 02:35.51 | [g2] | TimRiker, great job a couple months ago on the crypto work with the zipit BTW |
| 02:36.36 | TimRiker | heh. I just added to the work. zipitpet hacked on it for quite some time. still missing auto-tools to build hashes, but he can do em by hand with some fussing. |
| 02:36.57 | TimRiker | I'm happy to help. it's been fun. ;-) |
| 02:36.59 | [g2] | I've had mine for about 10 months too, but I've way too busy with the NSLU2 to play with it |
| 02:37.28 | TimRiker | you should do the software reflash. it's fairly easy and then you can poke around at the prompt. |
| 02:38.05 | [g2] | it's down on the priority list |
| 02:38.20 | [g2] | I've got lots of other toys distracting me |
| 02:38.22 | jacques | zipit complied with GPL yet? they ever respond about static linking issue? |
| 02:38.41 | TimRiker | the 3 pin and 5 pin mods are harder, and really required for any kernel hacking etc. |
| 02:38.48 | [g2] | dunno, I'm 70 messages behind on the ml |
| 02:39.13 | TimRiker | jacques: no. and I've not heard back from the fsf on the last email I sent them. |
| 02:39.18 | jacques | :-\ |
| 02:39.24 | [g2] | I've got a couple EP9302's |
| 02:39.34 | [g2] | which is the following on chip from Cirrus |
| 02:40.41 | [g2] | much faster, and I've got a couple dev boards with full sw |
| 02:41.01 | [g2] | including the Redboot/kernel for the old chip that comes with the dev package |
| 02:41.11 | TimRiker | jacques: they have release some stuff and pointed to most of the rest. I just can't understand why they make updates so tough. it's not like it stops us, and all they sell is hardware. why not leave it open so they can sell more? |
| 02:41.41 | [g2] | TimRiker, great lead in.... |
| 02:41.50 | TimRiker | heh. |
| 02:41.55 | [g2] | I'm in the process of building open HW |
| 02:41.57 | jacques | TimRiker, some ppl can't get their heads around FOSS |
| 02:42.06 | [g2] | IXP4xx based |
| 02:42.13 | TimRiker | the cirrus dev boards, have integrated mcgregor jtag, yes? |
| 02:42.26 | [g2] | there's JTAG on ther |
| 02:42.27 | TimRiker | jacques: true, true. |
| 02:42.37 | [g2] | and you can load the bootloader via serial |
| 02:42.51 | [g2] | you know the jumper thing right ? |
| 02:42.52 | [g2] | :) |
| 02:43.08 | TimRiker | [g2]: yeah, just need jtag for when you erase/load a bad bootloader. |
| 02:43.29 | [g2] | TimRiker, nod. the de-bricker |
| 02:43.40 | TimRiker | [g2]: nod. omap has that too. also supports reloading over usb without jtag. ;-) |
| 02:43.41 | [g2] | or brick-insurance |
| 02:43.59 | [g2] | a little sanity in the embedded world |
| 02:44.22 | [g2] | so other than prpplague are there other HW guys in here or mostly firmware types |
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| 02:52.07 | *** topic/#elinux is Embedded Linux || http://eLinux.org/ || cross compile, uClibc, busybox, tinylogin, handhelds, post-sale linux installs ;-), etc. || free embedded linux training at http://free-electrons.com/news/news.2004-09-28/en || see prpplague about custom holly-gates jtag dongles |
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| 04:13.26 | fishhead | damn I am shaking watching the final episode of andromeda |
| 04:26.42 | jacques | ~quote scox |
| 04:26.57 | jacques | die dammit, die. |
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| 04:54.27 | fishhead | wow the final episode wasn't too bad |
| 04:54.42 | fishhead | of andromeda |
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| 12:45.44 | prpplague^2 | cbrake: hey hey, hows the consulting biz going? |
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| 13:25.43 | cbrake | prpplague^2:well, after a week seems to be pretty good. Seems to be a fair amount of opportunity out there right now. |
| 13:26.25 | prpplague^2 | cbrake: cool |
| 13:26.27 | prpplague^2 | bbiaf |
| 14:05.53 | prpplague | ho ho ho |
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| 14:12.29 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:21.25 | prplague | chouimat: lo |
| 14:23.56 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:26.09 | CosmicPenguin | prplague: am I smoking crack, or is your name spelled wrong today? |
| 14:27.36 | prplague | doh |
| 14:27.38 | prplague | it is |
| 14:28.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: didn't notice, a little stressed today, i'm about a week behind on work :( |
| 14:29.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: job security |
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| 14:31.18 | prpplague^2 | yikes, i'm having adsl problems today |
| 14:31.22 | prpplague^2 | CosmicPenguin: hows that job security? |
| 14:31.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: plenty to do.. :) |
| 14:32.21 | prpplague^2 | CosmicPenguin: yea, but it doesn;t look good when i'm a week behind schedule :( |
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| 14:42.07 | prpplague^2 | hmm, i can't figure out whats wrong with this kernel image :( |
| 14:43.31 | CosmicPenguin | Still not booting at 16MB? |
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| 16:02.54 | prpplague | anyone have any hints as two why a kernel image that works on the same board with 32mb ram doesn't for a 16mb? |
| 16:04.33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my only thought was that the assembly was playing around above 0xFFFFFF |
| 16:05.07 | sjhill | prpplague: bootloader relocation overlap? |
| 16:06.29 | prpplague | sjhill: hmm, i don't think we are using anything above the 16mb mark |
| 16:07.02 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a good question though |
| 16:07.07 | CosmicPenguin | Is it making it out of the bootloader? |
| 16:08.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, the bootloader is working |
| 16:08.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks to stop when jumping to the kernel |
| 16:09.01 | sjhill | does it jump and start executing the kernel? |
| 16:09.33 | prpplague | sjhill: doesn't look that way, i've added some printascii to the code, but don't get anything |
| 16:09.47 | prpplague | sjhill: don't even see the uncompressing kernel statement |
| 16:10.29 | sjhill | ah |
| 16:10.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats what I mean - it doesn't sound like control is being passed |
| 16:10.44 | sjhill | thus back to my original questions of whether or not the kernel is being relocated properly |
| 16:13.23 | prpplague | sjhill: hmm, why would it be any different between the 16 and 32? |
| 16:15.10 | prpplague | if all the addresses are below 16mb, should be the same |
| 16:15.21 | sjhill | are you using U-Boot? |
| 16:15.24 | prpplague | blob |
| 16:15.40 | sjhill | ironic, since i'm eating Jello right now, but i digress |
| 16:15.50 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:16.32 | sjhill | do you set the amount of memory in the kernel or how? |
| 16:19.12 | prpplague | sjhill: yea, setting the amount in a fixup routine |
| 16:20.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how does it decide where to put the kernel? Is that a predetermined location, or does it calculate a space based on memory? |
| 16:21.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, thats in an include file for blob |
| 16:21.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hard coded addresses |
| 16:33.36 | prpplague | argh, its got to be something simple that i have missed |
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| 16:54.43 | prpplague | kergoth: lo ho |
| 16:55.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin / sjhill : looks like the kernel is booting, just looks like all the i/o isn't getting initted, i.e. fb and serial |
| 16:56.46 | sjhill | cool |
| 16:56.55 | CosmicPenguin | bah - io is overrated |
| 16:56.59 | sjhill | indeed |
| 16:57.31 | sjhill | in my day, you just had one I/O line that would shock you for debugging |
| 17:00.46 | CosmicPenguin | You would have to time the shocks to determine the bits |
| 17:00.57 | sjhill | exactly |
| 17:01.07 | sjhill | kids these days, sheesh |
| 17:01.11 | CosmicPenguin | arggh...........arggh..arggh... |
| 17:01.26 | sjhill | man, i really need to go into management... i would do so well |
| 17:02.44 | sjhill | never |
| 17:03.45 | sjhill | omg |
| 17:03.54 | sjhill | "Menstrual Cycle May Alter Brain Chemistry" is an article on FoxNews. |
| 17:04.00 | sjhill | No, really??!??!! |
| 17:05.09 | chouimat | sjhill: wow ... |
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| 19:57.34 | GvzEvxre | ~git |
| 19:57.43 | GvzEvxre | ~cogito |
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| 20:49.06 | CosmicPenguin | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92816 |
| 20:49.11 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone else think thats a stupid fix? |
| 20:50.52 | Crofton | it is gentoo :) |
| 20:53.25 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 20:53.38 | CosmicPenguin | you shouldn't have to demand that i2c apps #include <linux/compiler.h> |
| 20:53.56 | CosmicPenguin | Actually, they should be using linux-libc-headers, but thats a whole different ball of wax |
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