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| 03:12.43 | sorphin | sjhill: isn't it past your bedtime lackey? |
| 03:13.01 | sjhill | nah, 11 is |
| 03:13.11 | sorphin | ah |
| 03:13.13 | sjhill | i'm finishing up another 8 picture galleries |
| 03:13.33 | sjhill | man, my son is so good looking |
| 03:13.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:13.44 | file | O.o |
| 03:13.48 | sorphin | obviously he gets his looks from jen ;) |
| 03:13.53 | sjhill | heh |
| 03:13.59 | sjhill | hi file |
| 03:14.10 | sorphin | file: mini all good now? |
| 03:14.12 | sjhill | i have in my posession a new piece of hardware |
| 03:14.22 | file | sorphin: quite |
| 03:14.29 | sorphin | file: goodo |
| 03:14.29 | file | sjhill: oh no |
| 03:14.35 | sjhill | a dual HDTV PVR recorder box prototype |
| 03:14.40 | sorphin | oh |
| 03:14.45 | sjhill | it's quite delicious |
| 03:14.54 | sorphin | don't you mean MIPSlicious? :P |
| 03:15.01 | sjhill | well, yeah that too :) |
| 03:15.19 | sorphin | can you divulge anything spec wisE? |
| 03:15.51 | sjhill | no, because i don't even have documents yet |
| 03:16.00 | MonMotha | sjhill: I want to see MythTV on it ;) |
| 03:16.02 | sjhill | i'm going to be uploading computer pr0n pics of it though |
| 03:16.19 | sjhill | bcm97038 |
| 03:16.41 | MonMotha | hum, broadcom, so no linux :) |
| 03:16.44 | sorphin | which in non ex-broadcom employee lingo means... |
| 03:16.54 | sjhill | nothing |
| 03:17.00 | MonMotha | it means "you get no specs!" |
| 03:17.07 | sjhill | all of their prototype boxes start with '8' |
| 03:17.09 | sjhill | err '9' |
| 03:17.19 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:17.20 | sjhill | the '7038' is probably the chip |
| 03:17.25 | sorphin | don't even know the speed? :P |
| 03:17.26 | sjhill | that's how it usually works |
| 03:17.31 | sorphin | man you suck ;) |
| 03:17.48 | sorphin | seeing as your current employer doesn't make those sort of things |
| 03:17.53 | sorphin | date i ask why you have it? |
| 03:17.55 | sorphin | dare |
| 03:17.57 | sorphin | even |
| 03:18.01 | sjhill | hmm |
| 03:18.10 | sjhill | it looks like a 300MHz 64-bit processor |
| 03:18.15 | fishhead | mmmmm |
| 03:18.29 | sjhill | geesh |
| 03:18.35 | sjhill | the caches are huge for MIPS |
| 03:18.40 | sjhill | 32KB both I & D |
| 03:18.47 | sjhill | for an embedded platform anyway |
| 03:18.50 | fishhead | NICE |
| 03:18.53 | fishhead | hell yeah for embedded |
| 03:18.55 | [g2] | is that a huge cache ? |
| 03:18.57 | fishhead | even I know that's decent |
| 03:19.04 | fishhead | g2 for most embedded apps |
| 03:19.10 | sorphin | [g2]: ya |
| 03:19.13 | fishhead | mabye for video it might be considered a bit small |
| 03:19.20 | fishhead | although probably still fine |
| 03:19.24 | MonMotha | sorphin: off the shelf proc maybe? |
| 03:19.24 | sorphin | this is l1 cache |
| 03:19.25 | sjhill | it has dual SATAs |
| 03:19.26 | sorphin | not l2 |
| 03:19.29 | [g2] | so the IXP4xx line with 32 I+D plus mini I and D cache are huge ? |
| 03:19.29 | fishhead | OMG |
| 03:19.40 | [g2] | 32K I and D |
| 03:19.50 | sorphin | depends on what you're putting that cpu in ;) |
| 03:20.08 | sorphin | most embedded devices don't haul that kinda cache :P |
| 03:20.16 | sorphin | bad pun |
| 03:20.45 | [g2] | heh |
| 03:20.58 | file | don't make fun of Canadians, I find it rather offensive |
| 03:21.05 | fishhead | uhh |
| 03:21.08 | fishhead | i wasn't just then |
| 03:21.11 | [g2] | sjhill, sounds like a very cool box |
| 03:21.14 | fishhead | people say eh??? even here |
| 03:21.20 | sjhill | Canadians just beg to be made fun of |
| 03:21.25 | fishhead | yeah |
| 03:21.26 | file | pfft |
| 03:21.27 | fishhead | really |
| 03:21.29 | sjhill | sorphin: Hey, I got a joke for you. |
| 03:21.40 | sjhill | sorphin: How many French soldiers does it take to defend Paris? |
| 03:21.44 | fishhead | did you see william shatner's song tribute to george lucas at his tribuet |
| 03:21.49 | fishhead | MY GOD |
| 03:22.03 | fishhead | HE KILLED MORE PEOPLE in one night than alquida could with vx nerve gas |
| 03:22.09 | sorphin | sjhill: none, they're all too busy drinking wine |
| 03:22.18 | fishhead | and you all know where shatner is from |
| 03:22.25 | sorphin | who said anything about canadia? |
| 03:22.30 | sorphin | unless it was fishguts |
| 03:22.45 | fishhead | heh |
| 03:22.53 | sjhill | sorphin: close, the answer is, "No one knows. It's never been done." hahahahaha |
| 03:22.54 | file | I wonder how he got off ignore on here... oh well |
| 03:23.08 | fishhead | hey file |
| 03:23.09 | fishhead | ignore this |
| 03:23.13 | fishhead | :D |
| 03:23.22 | sorphin | file: i reignored him and haven't seen him as 'fishhead' since |
| 03:23.30 | sorphin | file: /ignore fishhead!*@* ALL |
| 03:23.44 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, true |
| 03:25.20 | fishhead | I love ignore |
| 03:25.27 | sjhill | Mercster: Q: How many French soldiers does it take to defend Paris? A: No one knows. It's never been |
| 03:25.37 | sjhill | oops |
| 03:25.42 | fishhead | mercster is here ? |
| 03:25.51 | sorphin | ha |
| 03:25.57 | fishhead | i've known him for yrs |
| 03:26.08 | sorphin | must be in #mipswhores |
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| 04:10.45 | j^2 | ping |
| 04:41.38 | cdm | pong |
| 04:42.20 | file[laptop] | dong |
| 04:42.28 | j^2 | hey |
| 04:42.51 | j^2 | any chance anynoe has ever heard of ti-ccs-tools? |
| 04:43.03 | j^2 | or c54codegen |
| 04:50.50 | sorphin | no |
| 04:50.55 | sorphin | cdm: sup chris |
| 04:51.49 | cdm | not much. |
| 04:51.57 | cdm | reading all the HP:THB forums. |
| 04:52.54 | sorphin | anything good? |
| 04:53.12 | cdm | yeah - have you read it yet? |
| 04:54.13 | sorphin | no, haven't bought it yet.. won't till the paperback comes out, but that doesn't mean spoilers bother me |
| 04:56.13 | sorphin | cdm: get this.. one time i actually read what i thought was a typed up copy in pdf.. turns out it was fan fiction of the book, but it was so good, i seemed real, but i only found out when i went and looked at the hard copy in the store, heh |
| 04:56.33 | cdm | ha |
| 04:56.50 | cdm | it's pretty cheap in hard cover. |
| 04:56.58 | sorphin | i know |
| 04:57.08 | sorphin | i don't really like hardcover books tho |
| 04:57.17 | sorphin | wonder why this one was so much cheaper than previous |
| 04:59.36 | cdm | it's about the same. |
| 04:59.44 | cdm | I think it was $18.99 last time. |
| 04:59.49 | cdm | but it was also 200 pages longer. |
| 05:03.15 | sorphin | apparently the editors were asleep :P |
| 05:04.06 | cdm | 2 I think. |
| 05:09.09 | sorphin | cdm: so you read it yet? heh |
| 05:10.36 | cdm | yeah - finished it around 1pm yesterday afternoon. |
| 05:12.17 | sorphin | ah |
| 05:12.26 | sorphin | as good as the previous ones? |
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| 12:30.23 | niksie | Hi |
| 12:30.47 | prpplague | niksie: howdy |
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| 13:05.30 | sorphin | prpplague: moin islander |
| 13:19.23 | prpplague | sorphin: morning |
| 13:19.32 | prpplague | sorphin: trying to re-do my taxes this morning :( |
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| 13:47.00 | pb_ | hi plague |
| 13:52.26 | sorphin | pb_: wotcher |
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| 13:55.58 | sorphin | sjhill: damn lackeys |
| 13:56.25 | sjhill | sorphin: doggone putzy slackers |
| 13:57.28 | sorphin | sjhill: takes one to know one |
| 14:03.55 | pb_ | hi sorphin |
| 14:05.35 | sjhill | sorphin: hey, i had a co-worker ask about putting a touch screen in his car |
| 14:06.02 | sjhill | sorphin: are there any pre-existing projects out there where people have put dials and read stuff off of the vehicle busses that he can reference? |
| 14:06.16 | sjhill | linux or winblows based |
| 14:08.06 | sorphin | sjhill: well, the glue chip to read the odbii bus is around, and it just simply talks over an rs232 link to whatever, and throws back simple data to decode |
| 14:08.37 | sorphin | anything more than that, depends on the car (i.e. bmw based products have some proprietary busses as well) |
| 14:10.04 | sjhill | that's fine, i guess i'm more interested in the UI portion |
| 14:10.17 | sjhill | gui toolkits and such |
| 14:11.09 | file[laptop] | I'm hungry |
| 14:11.12 | file[laptop] | someone make me food |
| 14:11.18 | file[laptop] | :P |
| 14:11.29 | sorphin | sjhill: oh there's plenty of gui bits, those are trivial |
| 14:15.46 | sjhill | sorphin: k, got some URLs handy? |
| 14:18.58 | CosmicPenguin | bleh |
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| 14:20.37 | sorphin | sjhill: not whilest i'm at work, no |
| 14:21.10 | sjhill | sorphin: if you would, make a note to yourself and send me some this evening or tomorrow pls |
| 14:21.18 | sorphin | ok |
| 14:21.46 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: I'll figure out the answer to your question momentairly |
| 14:21.47 | CosmicPenguin | errr |
| 14:21.48 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 14:21.51 | CosmicPenguin | coffee first |
| 14:22.44 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: thx |
| 14:23.02 | sjhill | i'd could figure out if i had time, but i need to get the mod made before i leave for OLS |
| 14:23.27 | sjhill | man, i fricking love my network power strip...those things are worth their weight in gold, platinum even |
| 14:24.20 | CosmicPenguin | When are you leaving? |
| 14:35.25 | sjhill | tomorrow morning at about 7am |
| 14:36.38 | CosmicPenguin | Cool - I'll be there around 3:00 PM |
| 14:37.51 | sjhill | ooo |
| 14:38.02 | sjhill | i don't arrive in Ottawa until 4:55pm |
| 14:38.10 | sjhill | i doubt i'll hit my hotel before 6pm |
| 14:38.15 | sjhill | that's being generous |
| 14:39.08 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 14:39.19 | CosmicPenguin | I even have a 2 hour layover in Toronto |
| 14:39.24 | sjhill | bah |
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| 14:56.00 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: thx |
| 15:23.24 | prpplague | pb_: morning |
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| 15:37.23 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm - I guess I should actually get some work done |
| 15:39.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nooooooo |
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| 15:40.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ordered my MaX station this morning |
| 15:40.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: suppose to get it next week sometime |
| 15:41.43 | prpplague | btw, found a neat little gadget calling out to be hacked |
| 15:44.22 | prpplague | http://www.sandisk.com/retail/spa.asp |
| 15:45.39 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a very strange little toy |
| 15:46.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: has an atmle arm7tdmi chip |
| 15:47.12 | CosmicPenguin | RCA? |
| 15:47.17 | CosmicPenguin | Is that how it connects to the TV? |
| 15:48.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: with 2MB flash and 16MB sdram |
| 15:48.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, rca's |
| 15:49.02 | fishhead | it can use usb flash drives too |
| 15:49.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: atmel at76c113 processor |
| 15:49.06 | fishhead | uNF! |
| 15:49.16 | prpplague | fishhead: yea, has both usb host and slave |
| 15:49.30 | prpplague | fishhead: and can decode mp3's and mpg-1 |
| 15:49.35 | CosmicPenguin | ohh - two ports, or is it UDC? |
| 15:49.36 | fishhead | nice |
| 15:49.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: two ports |
| 15:49.49 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 15:50.12 | fishhead | sandisk is a bunch of cool jews |
| 15:50.16 | fishhead | they really know their stuff |
| 15:50.19 | fishhead | good designers etc |
| 15:50.28 | fishhead | I hope all the anti semites in the world choke on this |
| 15:50.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: jtag header is present with standard 14 pin config |
| 15:50.59 | fishhead | uNF |
| 15:51.14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you found a hack site already? |
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| 15:51.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i have two i bought over the weekend |
| 15:51.32 | fishhead | how much are they |
| 15:51.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: already jtag'd the cpu id |
| 15:51.35 | fishhead | roughly us |
| 15:51.39 | prpplague | fishhead: $50.00 |
| 15:51.42 | fishhead | not bad |
| 15:51.43 | CosmicPenguin | What does it use for the NTSC encoding? |
| 15:52.01 | fishhead | btw |
| 15:52.03 | fishhead | that reminds me |
| 15:52.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the processor itself has the ntsc/pal |
| 15:52.10 | fishhead | you guys need to buy a tube of medical super glue |
| 15:52.13 | fishhead | this stuff is freaking awesome |
| 15:52.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it does? |
| 15:52.24 | fishhead | when you are working on something and slash open a finger |
| 15:52.27 | fishhead | fixed up in 2 mins |
| 15:52.29 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart AMD for bailing on the integrated tuner |
| 15:52.56 | fishhead | prpp |
| 15:52.58 | fishhead | if they sell it there |
| 15:53.00 | fishhead | get a tube |
| 15:53.03 | fishhead | it's like $5 |
| 15:54.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: haven't gotten around to dumping the flash though |
| 15:54.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the screens feel like uclinux though |
| 15:54.34 | CosmicPenguin | Probably some two bit ROTS from a house in china |
| 15:57.25 | prpplague | looks like most places are selling it for 39.99 |
| 15:58.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was thinking about getting one of those portable lcd screens for something like gamecube, then matching it up with the SPA |
| 15:58.54 | CosmicPenguin | That woudn't be too bad - you can get a RCA based LCD for not a lot of scratch these days |
| 15:59.58 | Crofton_ | ROTS? |
| 16:00.08 | CosmicPenguin | ~rtos |
| 16:00.30 | CosmicPenguin | Thats for either 1) not correcting me, or 2) mocking me behind my back |
| 16:00.35 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:00.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i knew what you ment |
| 16:00.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so why bother |
| 16:00.59 | Crofton_ | bother, I thought I was going to learn some cool new phrase |
| 16:01.00 | CosmicPenguin | So you were a mocker then? :) |
| 16:01.11 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - Real Operating Type System |
| 16:01.28 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the Jerry Lewis version |
| 16:01.48 | CosmicPenguin | Nice laady! |
| 16:04.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you could use the 2mb flash for bootloader, kernel, and initrd, then read the rest of one of the slots |
| 16:05.00 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, you wouldn't need that much - I bet you could fit it all in 2MB |
| 16:05.05 | prpplague | brb |
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| 16:08.34 | prpplague | re |
| 16:08.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm alot closer to get sd/mmc working on the zipit |
| 16:09.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nice |
| 16:11.06 | CosmicPenguin | I want to start working on SDIO, but there's hella NDA issues |
| 16:12.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
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| 16:30.03 | prpplague | ugh, i'm so far behind on work, and i'm totally unmotivated today |
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| 16:35.50 | prpplague | TimRiker: timmy! |
| 16:36.48 | TimRiker | moin |
| 16:39.42 | prpplague | TimRiker: zipit pages got /.'d over the weekend |
| 16:39.50 | prpplague | TimRiker: still no response from aeronix |
| 16:40.10 | prpplague | TimRiker: i'm alittle closer to getting the sd card working on the zipit |
| 16:40.14 | TimRiker | what "response" were you expecting? |
| 16:40.27 | TimRiker | found enough gpio pins? |
| 16:40.40 | prpplague | TimRiker: hehe, well, linuxdevices.com article said aeronix was preparing a press release/response |
| 16:41.25 | prpplague | TimRiker: think so, planning to use one address line and one data line, with on if the unused gpio's as the chip select |
| 16:42.09 | TimRiker | cool. |
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| 16:56.36 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: we drinking beer this week or what? :) |
| 16:57.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ols? |
| 16:57.59 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
| 16:58.38 | chouimat|ibook | CosmicPenguin: are you allready in ottawa? |
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| 17:03.52 | CosmicPenguin | Not yet - I'll be there tommorrow |
| 17:06.29 | chouimat|ibook | ok |
| 17:06.43 | chouimat|ibook | man so far DDC is boring |
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| 17:15.07 | prpplague | TimRiker: whats the green led for on the zipit? |
| 17:24.27 | TimRiker | don't recall. my zipit is still on the truck. |
| 17:24.56 | prpplague | TimRiker: ahh |
| 17:25.05 | prpplague | TimRiker: what about the yellow/orange one? |
| 17:25.40 | prpplague | TimRiker: i wish there was some place that had them in the store that i could just pick a couple up when i'm in texas next month |
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| 17:35.31 | niksie | doesn't bestbuy have them? |
| 17:35.43 | prpplague | TimRiker: do you use the zipit audio? |
| 17:35.56 | prpplague | niksie: last i checked they did not, but i will check again |
| 17:38.25 | prpplague | niksie: nope bb doesn't sell them in the stores |
| 17:40.06 | niksie | hmm |
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| 18:18.48 | prpplague | TimRiker: wow the aeronix patches for the ep7312 are obfusicated |
| 18:25.40 | prpplague | TimRiker: odd, doesn't seem to be much specific code to the zipit |
| 18:32.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: |
| 18:33.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://tinyurl.com/ckc97 |
| 18:37.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wonder if the mini-dvd's are supported with growisofs |
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| 19:04.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: shrug |
| 19:04.07 | CosmicPenguin | never messed much with min-dvd |
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| 19:10.48 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: greetings |
| 19:11.14 | prpplague | andersee: hidly hodly neighbor |
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| 19:22.54 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 19:22.57 | andersee | prpplague: sup? |
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| 19:23.52 | TimRiker | prpplague: don't use audio yet. have not looked very deeply at the patches. |
| 19:25.42 | prpplague | andersee: nada, just doing some soft-spi for sd/mmc |
| 19:26.08 | prpplague | TimRiker: well, i've yet to find any code that operates the green or yellow leds |
| 19:28.14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: you headed to the great white north? |
| 19:30.01 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: not currently |
| 19:30.28 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: had been scheduled to head out to .fi, but that fell through as well |
| 19:30.47 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: so just hanging out at home doing the same 'ol |
| 19:38.53 | prpplague | TimRiker: all moved? |
| 19:39.58 | CosmicPenguin | damn |
| 19:40.05 | CosmicPenguin | the one year I go to OLS, nobody else is going |
| 19:40.35 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:40.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sjhill is going |
| 19:40.49 | CosmicPenguin | thats right |
| 19:40.53 | CosmicPenguin | and he's not chopped liver |
| 19:40.59 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:44.03 | prpplague | ho diddy ho ho |
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| 19:49.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: jeeze have you read this thread - http://www.linuxdevices.com/cgi-bin/board/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=talkbacks&Post=296&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session= |
| 19:49.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: some of these time frames these ppl are talking about are outrageous |
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| 19:55.36 | CosmicPenguin | I'll agree with the speed, but not the cost |
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| 19:56.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh? you think doing a basic embedded linux system takes months? |
| 19:56.29 | CosmicPenguin | Customer ready? |
| 19:56.33 | CosmicPenguin | you betcha |
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| 19:57.12 | CosmicPenguin | Linux will get you 95% of the way in a very short amount of time (like days) |
| 19:57.16 | CosmicPenguin | its the other 5% that is killing us |
| 19:57.23 | prpplague | hmm |
| 19:57.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that hasn't been my experience |
| 19:57.48 | CosmicPenguin | Keeping in mind that in your experience, you've had ready to roll apps |
| 19:57.53 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the exception, not the norm |
| 19:58.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not all of them |
| 19:58.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd say probably 50% were ready to roll |
| 19:58.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the other 50% were from scratch |
| 19:59.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still i guess i'm just being rushed from abcsinc |
| 19:59.36 | CosmicPenguin | The time frame grows greatly the further up the stack you get |
| 19:59.43 | CosmicPenguin | we can deliver an embedded router in no time at all |
| 20:00.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well of course, the more end user interaction you have the more work involved |
| 20:00.43 | CosmicPenguin | But when you toss a GUI into the mix - well it gets much worse |
| 20:01.11 | CosmicPenguin | The thing is, what works for me probably won't work for our customers - I'm willing to overlook small problems |
| 20:01.16 | CosmicPenguin | even on my desktop - the average consumer cannot |
| 20:01.42 | CosmicPenguin | So I might be cool dropping into a commandline to install a new ipkg, but to do it right for the masses, one would need to write a ipkg gui |
| 20:02.00 | CosmicPenguin | Or hack an existing one, run it through validation, etc, etc... |
| 20:02.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: totally agree |
| 20:02.28 | CosmicPenguin | Now as to cost - thats totatlly wrong |
| 20:02.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but for embedded development, i just find that winblows dev times are much more length |
| 20:02.40 | prpplague | y |
| 20:02.56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: for that first 95% |
| 20:03.03 | CosmicPenguin | but once CE comes up on the board, the rest writes itself |
| 20:03.06 | CosmicPenguin | for us, its the other way around |
| 20:03.16 | CosmicPenguin | we bring it up quickly, but struggle with the details |
| 20:03.40 | CosmicPenguin | But if I had a ready to go app that worked on Windows and Linux - I promise you that the Linux board will come up faster |
| 20:03.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 20:11.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe someone on #electronics posted this - http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=search&item=VB-2&type=store |
| 20:12.42 | CosmicPenguin | goooo |
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| 20:39.31 | prpplague | ok, so i have a question, is there any real need for a printserver to have a 100baseT connection? wouldn't a 10baseT be plenty? |
| 20:39.46 | file[laptop] | well |
| 20:39.50 | file[laptop] | think big. |
| 20:40.14 | file[laptop] | think a huge office... printing postscript stuff... PDFs... printer with lots of memory... |
| 20:40.18 | file[laptop] | in reality though, no |
| 20:40.19 | file[laptop] | LOL |
| 20:40.31 | file[laptop] | unless your switches couldn't do 10 |
| 20:40.59 | prpplague | file[laptop]: i mean your not gonna be printing at 10mbs |
| 20:41.30 | file[laptop] | bigger number so people think it's better? |
| 20:41.50 | prpplague | file[laptop]: i was just thinking, i can almost make a linux print server for about $45.00 |
| 20:42.14 | prpplague | file[laptop]: but it would be with a cs8900 8-bit |
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| 20:42.40 | prpplague | file[laptop]: actually if i use a lh79524 i could use the onboard nic |
| 20:42.58 | file[laptop] | prpplague: thinking is evil, stop it! |
| 20:45.03 | prpplague | file[laptop]: ya wanna know something funny, it would be easier for donna and i both to move to canada than it would be to the states |
| 20:45.13 | file[laptop] | I'm not surprised |
| 20:45.18 | prpplague | file[laptop]: hehe, and neither of us are have canadian citizenship |
| 20:45.19 | file[laptop] | US-like stuff is evil |
| 20:45.23 | file[laptop] | even visiting is evil |
| 20:45.25 | file[laptop] | they're all mean |
| 20:45.39 | prpplague | file[laptop]: no, mainly confused |
| 20:45.55 | prpplague | file[laptop]: they think illegals have rights, and the ppl who pay taxes don't |
| 20:46.02 | file[laptop] | 'tsk 'tsk |
| 20:46.03 | CosmicPenguin | It would be easier if we wern't so damn popular |
| 20:46.14 | CosmicPenguin | I blame the French - they sent us that statue |
| 20:46.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, yea, well, that may be true if you aren't married to a citizen, but damm, you should treat ppl who try to follow the law like criminals |
| 20:47.14 | CosmicPenguin | They probably think you have something to hide |
| 20:47.23 | CosmicPenguin | The best way to not get in trouble in the US is to pretend like you don't exist |
| 20:47.33 | CosmicPenguin | trying your best just gets you noticed |
| 20:47.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe yea, well, you can't hide from immigration |
| 20:48.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you 'spose? I see people hiding from immigration all the time |
| 20:48.59 | file[laptop] | I dislike US Customs and Immigration |
| 20:49.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, well, that and you concense |
| 20:50.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still it shouldn't be this difficult |
| 20:50.03 | file[laptop] | prpplague: so how goes it? |
| 20:50.16 | prpplague | file[laptop]: the immigration stuff, or in general? |
| 20:50.31 | file[laptop] | in general |
| 20:50.46 | prpplague | its ok |
| 20:50.53 | prpplague | i'm behind on work as usual |
| 20:51.02 | file[laptop] | isn't everyone? |
| 20:51.45 | prpplague | file[laptop]: i wouldn't know |
| 20:51.56 | CosmicPenguin | wow - I do have to say that writing a new alsa driver is rediciously easy |
| 20:52.12 | prpplague | file[laptop]: seems lile i'm always 3 steps behind everyone else |
| 20:52.19 | prpplague | file[laptop]: http://www.allnet-usa.com/html/shop.php?kat=VOIP&PHPSESSID=55a7d853091621c8d67fc7b0f6f8c5a2 |
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| 21:16.33 | prpplague | ugh ugh ugh |
| 21:16.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this kiosk has a "embedded redhat" on it |
| 21:16.46 | prpplague | ugh ugh ugh |
| 21:16.56 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:17.18 | CosmicPenguin | At least it doesn't say Powered by WindowsCE |
| 21:17.23 | CosmicPenguin | find joy where you can |
| 21:24.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 21:25.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: odd though, when i use my cf->usb adapter , i don't show any partitions on the cf card |
| 21:25.13 | CosmicPenguin | thats not good |
| 21:25.22 | CosmicPenguin | you sure you have the right scsi device? |
| 21:25.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, i use this adapter alot |
| 21:25.59 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... sure the card didn't get blown away on you? |
| 21:26.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nope it boots fine |
| 21:27.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think it might be the h/c/s giving problems |
| 21:28.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, seems my adapter is providing bogus info |
| 21:29.21 | CosmicPenguin | Thats kind of cool - Residence Inn lets you look up your reservation online |
| 21:29.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the card has 978/4/32 and i'm getting 1009/2/64 |
| 21:30.35 | CosmicPenguin | Ah - yeah, that will do it |
| 21:32.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i figured i could over ride that but doesn't appear so |
| 21:34.22 | prpplague | oops |
| 21:34.24 | prpplague | gotta run |
| 21:34.25 | prpplague | later |
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| 23:07.04 | CosmicPenguin | Who's pissing you off this time, mabel> |
| 23:18.22 | chouimat | re |
| 23:19.30 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: when do you arrive in Ottawa |
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| 23:31.46 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: 3:00 ish tommorrow |
| 23:41.05 | chouimat|ibook | sorphin: hehe |
| 23:43.02 | CosmicPenguin | funny hah-hah |
| 23:46.48 | Genesis | atmel seems to be a serious concurent to pic |
| 23:50.18 | CosmicPenguin | Well, with that bout of hilarity out of the way, i wish you all a good evening |