| 00:00.00 | jbevren | in..? :) |
| 00:00.09 | sorphin | to your local |
| 00:00.09 | CosmicPenguin | Amazingly clever statistics aside, its time to go home |
| 00:00.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: cya |
| 00:00.14 | jbevren | to my local..? :) |
| 00:00.55 | sorphin | GPSFan__: uh.. not seeing anything yet |
| 00:03.20 | sorphin | nothing on the front page about artis, cognio nor A3000 |
| 00:05.12 | sorphin | GPSFan__: so... |
| 00:08.29 | GPSFan__ | sorphin: the top & side adds are all cognio when last I looked. |
| 00:09.31 | sorphin | i block pagesyndicate2 |
| 00:09.43 | sorphin | so no google ads |
| 00:10.05 | GPSFan__ | sorphin: ah, an add free world!! |
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| 00:11.04 | GPSFan__ | the vga card is seen by lspci, but not by coninfo. |
| 00:12.21 | file[laptop] | blame Canada |
| 00:12.33 | TheCollector | blame canada |
| 00:13.00 | TheCollector | with their beedy little eyes |
| 00:14.04 | file[laptop] | exactly |
| 00:25.16 | TheCollector | doh |
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| 00:32.59 | sorphin | GPSFan__: nod |
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| 01:18.54 | jbevren | heh |
| 01:18.55 | jbevren | me too |
| 01:18.59 | jbevren | and it shows |
| 01:19.16 | sorphin | yep |
| 01:19.24 | sorphin | wtf is ken? ;) |
| 01:19.45 | jbevren | mia :( |
| 01:19.57 | sorphin | 1 hour 6 mins |
| 01:28.47 | sorphin | yay, back to proper booting |
| 01:28.52 | sorphin | but w/o all the cruft in the env |
| 01:29.19 | sorphin | i kept setenv foo=bar |
| 01:29.23 | sorphin | no = is needed |
| 01:29.24 | sorphin | oops |
| 01:30.16 | sorphin | jbevren: appears their diag code is propretary |
| 01:30.32 | sorphin | diag.o display_diag.o dp83815_diag.o flash_diag.o pci_diag.o sdram_diag.o |
| 01:32.32 | jbevren | grr |
| 01:35.19 | sorphin | ? |
| 01:36.28 | jbevren | proprietary (grr) |
| 01:36.33 | sorphin | ah |
| 01:36.35 | sorphin | well |
| 01:36.38 | sorphin | it's just the diag mode |
| 01:36.48 | sorphin | which i've used.. what.. once? |
| 01:36.52 | jbevren | ah |
| 01:36.59 | jbevren | well, I was thinking of the console init |
| 01:37.02 | sorphin | no |
| 01:37.08 | sorphin | there's memtest |
| 01:37.10 | sorphin | diag mode |
| 01:37.15 | sorphin | then autoboot prompts |
| 01:40.51 | sorphin | the memtest is source and the ppcboot obviously is |
| 01:45.48 | jbevren | hm |
| 01:48.44 | sorphin | they give you that eeprom image for the ethernet but no source either |
| 01:48.44 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:48.55 | jbevren | hehe |
| 01:49.02 | jbevren | what is in it besides the mac addr? |
| 01:49.14 | sorphin | lemme hexedit it :P |
| 01:49.19 | sorphin | there's no strings |
| 01:51.11 | sorphin | 00000000 100b0020 2cd0cf00 00000000 00000030 ... ,..........0 |
| 01:51.12 | sorphin | 00000010 0700000a 00005564 ffffffff ffffffff ......Ud........ |
| 01:51.24 | sorphin | from 00000020 on is all ffffff |
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| 01:58.14 | sorphin | they used hermes based wireless cards |
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| 02:03.51 | sorphin | cdm: sup chris |
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| 02:33.21 | sorphin | GPSFan: with us this time? |
| 02:38.13 | GPSFan | yeah, between windoze crashes, electrical storms and hosers sucking up bandwidth, it's been a dificult day... |
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| 02:46.00 | GPSFan | sorphin: where did you find out about the header on the ramdisk file? how does one get rid of/add it to the base .gz file? |
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| 02:55.30 | sorphin | GPSFan: i found out cuz i hexedited the file |
| 02:55.37 | sorphin | looked for the gzip signature |
| 02:56.05 | sorphin | then did |
| 02:56.07 | sorphin | dd if=ramdisk_re11_4.bin of=ramdisk.iso.gz skip=64 bs=1 |
| 02:56.29 | sorphin | they had an initrd |
| 02:56.41 | sorphin | to run their file validations before boot |
| 02:57.56 | sorphin | 1b 8b |
| 02:58.00 | sorphin | gzip |
| 02:58.38 | sorphin | as for adding it |
| 02:58.46 | sorphin | look in their kernel source |
| 02:59.01 | sorphin | shows how in their script |
| 03:02.31 | GPSFan | ah, thanks.. was able to nfs mount my mcp750 rootfs adn chroot to it, seems to work. busybox 1.0-rc3 & uclibc 0.9.26 |
| 03:04.53 | GPSFan | my buildroot needs updating but i think it will build apps for this box ok. |
| 03:09.52 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:12.32 | sorphin | heh, a Fry's branded wireless router |
| 03:12.38 | GPSFan | do what works for you, I've had success with buildroot, for x86, ARM, MIPS & PPC, for a non-programmer it helps with the learning curve. |
| 03:12.56 | GPSFan | like me ;>) |
| 03:13.59 | sorphin | try any more w/ the speed? |
| 03:16.46 | sorphin | It seems that jbevren's shift-key is hanging: 1.3% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE. |
| 03:16.46 | sorphin | For example, like this: |
| 03:16.47 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.49 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:16.52 | GPSFan | no, too much wine with dinner. ;) there is another config that may work, but is results in overclocking the cpu a bit. but leaves the mem speed at 100 |
| 03:17.15 | sorphin | GPSFan: i think the cpu could handle it |
| 03:17.38 | sorphin | which config, remember? |
| 03:17.47 | GPSFan | should, but it is 01111 vs 00001 |
| 03:17.56 | GPSFan | so a lot of res to change. |
| 03:18.09 | sorphin | uhh |
| 03:18.17 | sorphin | i thought we were currently 10000 |
| 03:18.23 | sorphin | cuz jbevren was backwards |
| 03:20.08 | GPSFan | orig config is 00001 pll_cfg(0.4) lsb ----- msb |
| 03:20.48 | sorphin | k |
| 03:21.09 | GPSFan | from page 4 of the schematic, pg 42/43 of the small manual |
| 03:22.04 | sorphin | Ref F |
| 03:22.22 | GPSFan | yep, so it sets the mem mult to 3 and the cpu mult to 3.5 |
| 03:22.48 | sorphin | what about Ref D? :) |
| 03:22.52 | sorphin | rnu the pci at 66 hehe |
| 03:22.57 | GPSFan | making 100mhz mdm clock & serial baud rate source, and 350mhz cpu clock. |
| 03:23.15 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:23.36 | GPSFan | to get that, we would have to change the 33mhz osc, and the ethernet chip might not work . |
| 03:23.55 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:24.20 | sorphin | so... |
| 03:24.28 | sorphin | change CFG1-4 to... |
| 03:24.34 | sorphin | 10k or 0? |
| 03:24.48 | GPSFan | to 10k's |
| 03:24.56 | sorphin | bah |
| 03:25.01 | sorphin | why couldn't it be 0 :P |
| 03:25.07 | sorphin | thats easier |
| 03:25.10 | sorphin | the mini |
| 03:25.15 | sorphin | you just short the contacts |
| 03:25.18 | GPSFan | if it were 0 we could leave the 10k's in. |
| 03:25.24 | sorphin | all 0 ohms |
| 03:25.45 | GPSFan | you speed up your mini? to what? |
| 03:26.12 | sorphin | 1.5 |
| 03:26.15 | sorphin | from 1.24 |
| 03:26.20 | sorphin | some have pulled off 1.67 |
| 03:26.22 | GPSFan | mmmmm... |
| 03:26.23 | sorphin | from 1.24 |
| 03:26.41 | sorphin | it's nice and stable at 1.5 |
| 03:26.44 | sorphin | was unstable at 1.58 |
| 03:26.48 | GPSFan | I'd be happy with 1.5 |
| 03:26.52 | sorphin | which means my g4 is binned lower |
| 03:26.52 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:26.54 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:26.58 | sorphin | you can really tell the diff |
| 03:27.06 | sorphin | and the fan keeps up fine |
| 03:27.13 | GPSFan | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.30 | sorphin | GPSFan: i guess i'll see if gateway has any 10ks... they do have some smt crap |
| 03:28.05 | GPSFan | they are 0603's btw. the 0402's from the z1pit were quite a bit smaller. |
| 03:28.21 | sorphin | they're G2s ;) |
| 03:28.42 | GPSFan | indeed |
| 03:28.51 | sorphin | uhhh |
| 03:28.59 | sorphin | Ref F |
| 03:29.11 | sorphin | F011111225–315 75–93 263–326 |
| 03:29.21 | sorphin | 326 is the top of the clock range |
| 03:29.35 | sorphin | damn pdf mucked up the spacing |
| 03:29.56 | GPSFan | that's for a 31mhz input clk, we have 33 so it would be 100 and 350 |
| 03:30.14 | sorphin | the max pci clk is 31 |
| 03:30.19 | sorphin | this is a 333 part |
| 03:30.21 | sorphin | not a 350 |
| 03:30.32 | GPSFan | because of the limit of 333 on the cpu freq. |
| 03:30.40 | GPSFan | see the notes. |
| 03:30.58 | sorphin | right |
| 03:31.08 | sorphin | so it won't be running at 33mhz then |
| 03:31.12 | sorphin | it'll be running at 31 |
| 03:31.35 | GPSFan | no, it will be at 33, because of the fixed external 33mhz osc. |
| 03:31.41 | sorphin | uh |
| 03:32.10 | sorphin | ah yeah |
| 03:32.12 | GPSFan | they just say you cant go over 31, because you will exceed the 333mhz limit of the cpu. |
| 03:32.13 | sorphin | i see a 25mhz xtal |
| 03:32.17 | sorphin | and a 33mhz xtal |
| 03:32.29 | sorphin | the 33 is near the pci |
| 03:32.32 | sorphin | the 25 is near the cpu |
| 03:33.19 | sorphin | oh the external power led wasn't on on this one, cuz it wasn't hooked up.. doh |
| 03:34.10 | GPSFan | 25mhz is for the ethernet. |
| 03:34.33 | GPSFan | 33 goes to the IDT2305 clock driver. |
| 03:36.50 | GPSFan | the schematic is very useful, would have been nice for the TUX, was useful for the webpal. |
| 03:37.05 | GPSFan | night, cul... |
| 03:48.01 | sorphin | uh |
| 03:48.04 | sorphin | right |
| 04:04.21 | sorphin | i was wrong, as it says on the board |
| 04:04.24 | sorphin | this isn't pc104 |
| 04:04.28 | sorphin | it's pci-104 |
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| 04:53.30 | DeltaF | Dare I ask for opinions on blackdog? |
| 05:02.16 | DeltaF | That good, huh? |
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| 12:52.36 | jbevren | yawn |
| 13:03.12 | sorphin | jbevren: indeed :P |
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| 13:43.59 | sorphin | prpplague: yeehaw, it's the texas plague |
| 13:47.29 | CosmicPenguin | dszaazZAZAswaAazZASZSXZXZXXXXXXXXXSXZAAZSAZAAFSZAsazCXZzxdSZAc |
| 13:47.42 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh! |
| 13:47.44 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 13:52.34 | CosmicPenguin | I spilled cream cheese on the keyboard |
| 13:53.02 | jbevren | heh |
| 13:53.04 | jbevren | was it still cold? |
| 13:53.11 | CosmicPenguin | warm |
| 13:53.13 | jbevren | DOH |
| 13:53.21 | CosmicPenguin | it migrated from my bagel |
| 13:53.48 | prpplague | hehe |
| 13:53.51 | jbevren | :) |
| 13:55.17 | CosmicPenguin | I still can't get over that ibot stats page |
| 13:57.19 | jbevren | url? :P |
| 13:57.43 | CosmicPenguin | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/elinux.html.gz |
| 14:00.37 | prpplague | hehe, for once i'm not even up there |
| 14:02.01 | sorphin | prpplague: you've not been here, that's why |
| 14:02.05 | sorphin | so i was the top talker |
| 14:17.51 | prpplague | yea |
| 14:20.25 | sorphin | prpplague: will it be the coffee IV or the beer IV today sir? |
| 14:21.32 | prpplague | sorphin: prozac |
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| 14:29.58 | Crofton_|laptop | prpplague, http://www.ilovebacon.com/081105/b.shtml |
| 14:33.04 | prpplague | Crofton_|laptop: hehe, i know where that is |
| 14:36.35 | Crofton_|laptop | cool |
| 14:36.47 | Crofton_|laptop | Does biz really suck? |
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| 14:46.32 | sorphin | pb_: wotcher |
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| 14:52.33 | prpplague | pb_: whats your biz url again? |
| 14:55.02 | pb_ | hi sorphin |
| 14:55.05 | pb_ | hi plague |
| 14:55.07 | pb_ | prpplague: www.reciva.com |
| 14:55.51 | prpplague | pb_: do you guess modify the attenna on the usb dongles you use? |
| 14:57.12 | pb_ | no, not generally |
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| 15:21.16 | pb_ | gah, how card can it be to program a 22v10? |
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| 15:32.31 | CosmicPenguin | AAHHH!!!!! |
| 15:32.39 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:32.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i didn't intall KDE tho ;) |
| 15:32.57 | sorphin | chouimat: lo |
| 15:32.57 | CosmicPenguin | whew |
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| 15:50.41 | sorphin | 9098/win next |
| 15:50.43 | sorphin | grr |
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| 15:54.12 | sorphin | TimRiker: moin |
| 16:14.33 | kergoth | yo |
| 16:15.31 | pb_ | g'day kergoth |
| 16:15.36 | kergoth | hey pb_ |
| 16:15.37 | kergoth | how goes it? |
| 16:15.57 | chouimat | hi pb_ kergoth prpplague |
| 16:17.31 | pb_ | so-so. investor meetings, that kind of thing. |
| 16:17.52 | kergoth | ah |
| 16:18.02 | pb_ | finally found a machine old enough to program this PAL, though |
| 16:18.19 | kergoth | i'm all employed and stuff now |
| 16:18.24 | pb_ | awesome |
| 16:18.30 | pb_ | how's the new job going? |
| 16:18.53 | pb_ | I guess it must be nice to have a paycheck again. |
| 16:18.54 | kergoth | not bad so far. doesnt look like itll be very challenging, but i'm learning more about advanced routing stuff, policy routing, qos, etc |
| 16:18.57 | kergoth | which is always good |
| 16:18.57 | kergoth | yeah, indeed |
| 16:19.51 | pb_ | sounds good |
| 16:22.02 | CosmicPenguin | What procesors are they using? |
| 16:23.48 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: according to cpuinfo, a "VIA Samuel 2", 400mhz or something |
| 16:23.52 | chouimat | http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220050177789%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20050177789&RS=DN/20050177789 |
| 16:23.57 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: doh! |
| 16:23.58 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 16:24.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:24.07 | CosmicPenguin | Time to change that |
| 16:24.27 | kergoth | i've got lots of things to change around here, most of wh ich are higher priority than that ;) |
| 16:24.34 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:24.41 | CosmicPenguin | been there, done that |
| 16:25.19 | kergoth | bah, this "server" is running slackware |
| 16:25.32 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:26.39 | file[laptop] | my head hurts |
| 16:40.10 | jbevren | doh |
| 16:54.23 | prpplague | any uboot guru's around? |
| 16:57.50 | Crofton | i upgraded uboot on an OSK, does that make me a guru? |
| 16:58.11 | CosmicPenguin | \yes |
| 16:58.14 | CosmicPenguin | answer the man's quesotin |
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| 16:59.41 | prpplague | hehe, how do you set the filename to use with tftpboot? |
| 17:02.49 | prpplague | nm, found some info |
| 17:03.10 | CosmicPenguin | I'm so pissed off, I can't focus |
| 17:03.19 | file[laptop] | I'm working outside today |
| 17:03.24 | Crofton | tftpboot addres name of file? |
| 17:03.38 | Crofton | CosmicPenguin, at who? |
| 17:04.25 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the thing - I don't know |
| 17:04.35 | CosmicPenguin | I can't concentrate my rage at any one point |
| 17:04.41 | CosmicPenguin | Thats why I'm unfocused |
| 17:04.49 | Crofton | thats what drugs are for |
| 17:07.11 | prpplague | Crofton: yea, found the syntax |
| 17:07.14 | prpplague | thanks |
| 17:07.17 | Crofton | cool |
| 17:07.28 | Crofton | I find it confusing that it is called tftpboot |
| 17:10.47 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:11.03 | prpplague | Crofton: can't seem to get it working though |
| 17:11.09 | Crofton | hmm |
| 17:11.20 | Crofton | there are a number of other settings |
| 17:11.31 | Crofton | like setting up tcpip in uboot |
| 17:13.24 | Crofton | pastebin coming in a sec |
| 17:13.35 | Crofton | http://pastebin.ca/19896 |
| 17:14.39 | Crofton | you need ethaddr ipaddr serverip netmask |
| 17:14.41 | Crofton | roughly |
| 17:17.36 | prpplague | Crofton: yea, got all that set |
| 17:53.23 | Crofton | any luck? |
| 17:55.33 | fishhead | prpp |
| 17:55.41 | fishhead | what;s the name of the company that wrote the juicebox sw |
| 18:19.02 | sorphin | sheesh |
| 18:19.09 | sorphin | gas is up to $2.55 now ($2.75 for me) |
| 18:26.09 | Soopaman | man i hate sorphin |
| 18:26.09 | Soopaman | oops |
| 18:26.11 | Soopaman | wrong chan |
| 18:26.13 | Soopaman | heheheh |
| 18:28.01 | sorphin | uh |
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| 18:29.29 | sorphin | cdm: hola |
| 18:32.13 | cdm | hia sorph |
| 18:32.32 | sorphin | cdm: sup |
| 18:33.08 | cdm | not much. Chillin' a little today. Break from the big demo crunch from last weekend. |
| 18:33.34 | sorphin | cdm: any vice around the appleworld about the whole OSX x86, etc stuff goin on? |
| 18:34.03 | cdm | no idea man - not my dept. ;) |
| 18:34.50 | sorphin | cdm: figured there'd be grapevine |
| 18:35.03 | cdm | man, even if there was it isn't my dept. ;) |
| 18:35.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:44.13 | jbevren | hehe |
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| 19:03.45 | chouimat | kergoth: interesting? |
| 19:03.52 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:04.26 | kergoth | was reading about the CBQ discipline for linux QOS and it recommended reading it |
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| 19:30.41 | CosmicPenguin | must work |
| 19:30.45 | CosmicPenguin | make progress |
| 19:30.49 | CosmicPenguin | be successful |
| 19:31.02 | CosmicPenguin | must not give up |
| 19:31.04 | CosmicPenguin | be sheep farmer |
| 19:31.55 | Crofton__|laptop | http://www.gardenmountain.com/ |
| 19:40.43 | CosmicPenguin | Anybody know how to grab the identity data from CF attached to a USB reader? |
| 19:40.51 | CosmicPenguin | from userland? |
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| 19:44.03 | jbevren | sorphin: so fedex came bay |
| 19:46.51 | jbevren | which of your standoffs were broken |
| 19:47.11 | jbevren | mine were bent a little, but thats cause the 'tards packed the thing upside down, and the pcb isnt properly mounted due to size |
| 20:09.05 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: know of any good coding style documents that would be a good start for writing a code style policy for my group? |
| 20:09.07 | sorphin | jbevren: just one of em was broken in the threads |
| 20:09.11 | sorphin | jbevren: works fine tho |
| 20:09.14 | CosmicPenguin | OSS coding style that is |
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| 20:22.57 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
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| 20:28.56 | jbevren | eeeets aliiiiive |
| 20:28.57 | jbevren | hehe |
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| 21:05.56 | jbevren | grr |
| 21:06.02 | jbevren | I set bootargs to init=/bin/sh |
| 21:06.03 | jbevren | no workie |
| 21:07.34 | jbevren | wtf |
| 21:07.42 | jbevren | I even typed saveenv and it didnt keep it |
| 21:07.43 | jbevren | grrrr |
| 21:09.35 | jbevren | ahh |
| 21:09.39 | jbevren | the bootscript resets bootargs |
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| 21:27.37 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm... I've got a FX-53 and a new mobo and a new dual head nvidia card sitting in front of me |
| 21:27.53 | CosmicPenguin | now, if I could just be motivated to shut down my box and upgrade it |
| 21:28.05 | jbevren | hehe |
| 21:28.44 | sorphin | jbevren: hacked on it yet? :) |
| 21:29.02 | jbevren | just /bin/sh'ed it |
| 21:29.11 | CosmicPenguin | I guess the first step will be to figure out how I can have a mix of 32 bit and 64 bit libraries on my boxen |
| 21:29.12 | jbevren | I'm still 'at work' |
| 21:32.59 | jbevren | and I'm rather bombed out, so I'll probably nap after work |
| 21:35.05 | sorphin | bah |
| 21:35.14 | sorphin | i was falling asleep at my desk last night |
| 21:35.17 | sorphin | but kept at it |
| 21:35.23 | sorphin | you're just a pansy ;) |
| 21:35.25 | sorphin | :) |
| 21:37.55 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: linux/Documenation/CodingStyle perhaps? :P |
| 21:38.05 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: or.. lets see, i think greg k-h wrote something up |
| 21:47.23 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yeah, I've got CodingStyle |
| 21:48.26 | CosmicPenguin | My plan was to send everybody a number of coding documents, solicit comments, and then in two weeks when nobody responds, force them to use the coding style I choose |
| 21:53.15 | jbevren | debootstrap --arch powerpc sarge a3000/ |
| 21:53.17 | jbevren | hehe |
| 21:57.46 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: good plan |
| 21:59.45 | sorphin | jbevren: uhhh |
| 21:59.47 | sorphin | lame |
| 22:05.20 | jbevren | :P |
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| 22:16.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:16.53 | sorphin | jbevren: since you don't have a car, how far is work? :P |
| 22:16.59 | jbevren | 10 feet. |
| 22:17.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:17.16 | sorphin | you live at work huh? :P |
| 22:17.17 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:17.21 | jbevren | I work at home |
| 22:17.23 | jbevren | same thing? |
| 22:17.29 | kergoth | sorphin: new job is somewhat interesting |
| 22:17.33 | kergoth | learning about policy routing and qos |
| 22:17.35 | sorphin | then why'd you make it sound like you weren't physically present at home :P |
| 22:17.38 | sorphin | kergoth: indeed |
| 22:17.41 | kergoth | policy routing is awfully spiffy |
| 22:17.44 | sorphin | kergoth: yep |
| 22:17.46 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:17.48 | jbevren | sorphin: If I dont think that way, I'll never do anything for work :) |
| 22:17.50 | sorphin | and QOS is used w/ VoIP |
| 22:18.00 | sorphin | jbevren: balance |
| 22:18.05 | jbevren | xactly |
| 22:18.12 | jbevren | from 8 to 5 I do work |
| 22:18.14 | jbevren | the rest is home :) |
| 22:18.18 | sorphin | kergoth: well, if you have any questions, i can try and help |
| 22:18.24 | kergoth | cool, thanks |
| 22:18.25 | sorphin | jbevren: well, it's 5:18 |
| 22:18.28 | sorphin | now get hacking bitch ;) |
| 22:18.30 | kergoth | most of it has been pretty straightforward so far |
| 22:18.30 | jbevren | I'm not at work :) |
| 22:18.38 | kergoth | policy routing is a breeze of course |
| 22:18.38 | sorphin | kergoth: yeah |
| 22:18.40 | jbevren | been trying to get nlockmgr into the freaking chroot |
| 22:18.45 | kergoth | some of the qos stuff i havent quite wrapped my head around just yet |
| 22:18.45 | jbevren | got a ppc bin? |
| 22:18.45 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:18.48 | kergoth | getting there |
| 22:18.53 | sorphin | jbevren: whatchutalkinboutwillis? |
| 22:18.59 | kergoth | some of those qos disciplines are fucking complecated |
| 22:19.03 | kergoth | and of course they need to be, but.. |
| 22:19.03 | sorphin | kergoth: yeah |
| 22:19.08 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:19.12 | jbevren | lockd: cannot monitor 192.168.1.13 |
| 22:19.17 | sorphin | kergoth: we'll make a network monkey out of you yet ;) |
| 22:19.18 | jbevren | that's what I'm talking about |
| 22:19.22 | sorphin | jbevren: never seen that |
| 22:19.25 | jbevren | dpkg: unable to lock dpkg status database: No locks available |
| 22:19.29 | sorphin | dude |
| 22:19.31 | sorphin | wtf are you doing? |
| 22:19.32 | jbevren | I dont have nlockmgr in localhost :) |
| 22:19.34 | jbevren | playing. |
| 22:19.40 | jbevren | I'm too tired to do much else :) |
| 22:19.50 | sorphin | we've been working w/ whta's there and their ramdisk stuff |
| 22:19.53 | sorphin | not debian |
| 22:20.11 | kergoth | sorphin: hehe. its pretty fun. i always was interested in netfilter and NAT and stuff, just never learned any of the fancy stuff, having no need for it outside of work |
| 22:20.25 | sorphin | jbevren: and ken's been doing over NFS too |
| 22:20.31 | jbevren | fun |
| 22:20.41 | sorphin | kergoth: yeah |
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| 22:21.17 | jbevren | btw |
| 22:21.18 | sorphin | GPSFan: once again, i speak your name, and you appear |
| 22:21.21 | jbevren | dns works in the deb chroot |
| 22:21.25 | jbevren | ;-) |
| 22:21.27 | sorphin | jbevren: i know |
| 22:21.31 | sorphin | jbevren: as i said |
| 22:21.31 | jbevren | but thats obvious |
| 22:21.33 | sorphin | missing library |
| 22:21.36 | jbevren | nod |
| 22:21.44 | GPSFan | sorphin:testing some stuff bay vanish... |
| 22:21.48 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:21.50 | sorphin | k |
| 22:22.20 | GPSFan | nnn |
| 22:22.34 | sorphin | aaa |
| 22:23.12 | GPSFan | still testing |
| 22:25.46 | jbevren | re GPSFan |
| 22:26.24 | jbevren | redhat blows |
| 22:26.29 | sorphin | exactly |
| 22:26.29 | jbevren | I konw it does, I work with it for 8hrs/day |
| 22:26.37 | GPSFan | jbevren: howdy, see you got your box ;>) |
| 22:26.41 | jbevren | nod :) |
| 22:26.45 | sorphin | GPSFan: now he's 133+ |
| 22:26.51 | sorphin | GPSFan: cept he's breaking it w/ debian |
| 22:26.53 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:26.54 | jbevren | I'm glad you think so |
| 22:26.59 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:27.08 | jbevren | and I hardly think of a chroot as breakage |
| 22:27.18 | sorphin | chrooting to what? |
| 22:27.23 | GPSFan | sorphin: so jbevren did the hw hack and it worked? |
| 22:27.24 | sorphin | got some magic storage device? :P |
| 22:27.29 | jbevren | nfs :) |
| 22:27.34 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:27.37 | jbevren | hehe GPSFan |
| 22:27.43 | GPSFan | like what I did last night |
| 22:28.00 | sorphin | too much to filter |
| 22:28.05 | sorphin | since my servers all have public space |
| 22:28.32 | GPSFan | got my ppc box to recognize my usb2 card, all it took was an Xacto and a few cuts... |
| 22:28.40 | sorphin | GPSFan: :) |
| 22:28.47 | sorphin | wish i knew wtf my 1394 card went |
| 22:29.15 | GPSFan | now it's time to get a new kernel built, and a EHCI driver. |
| 22:29.38 | GPSFan | same place my usb2 card went before I found it again. |
| 22:30.28 | jbevren | hmm |
| 22:31.16 | sorphin | GPSFan: ah |
| 22:32.03 | sorphin | least you found yours tho :P |
| 22:32.26 | GPSFan | yeah, but you just moved (within the last year ;>)) |
| 22:32.31 | sorphin | so? |
| 22:32.35 | sorphin | i've had the card since then |
| 22:32.41 | GPSFan | oh.. |
| 22:32.48 | sorphin | it's just decided to hide |
| 22:33.02 | sorphin | prolly hiding where my 40<->44 pin adapter went |
| 22:33.10 | CosmicPenguin | I stole that |
| 22:33.22 | CosmicPenguin | People keep stealing mine, so I figured turnabout was fair game |
| 22:33.41 | sorphin | it's a fair trade ;) |
| 22:34.35 | sorphin | i almost wanna use one of these ppc's for my firewall/router, but at the same time, i don't |
| 22:35.46 | kergoth | should get oe emitting a solid openwrt-ish image for my wrt54gs |
| 22:36.01 | kergoth | qos would be nice for ensuring that my traffic thats sensitive to latency isnt disrupted |
| 22:36.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:37.20 | sorphin | uhhhhh |
| 22:37.20 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... you can't upgrade a 32 bit gentoo install to a 64 bit one |
| 22:37.22 | CosmicPenguin | grrr.... |
| 22:37.24 | sorphin | "Microsoft has a patent pending for displaying numbers in a box " |
| 22:37.31 | sorphin | gee.. that's original |
| 22:37.51 | sorphin | so i can make $ of amazon and M$ |
| 22:38.22 | kergoth | sorphin: i've been at this job for 2 days. my todo list is a page long, and i've already wiped their "server", installed a new linux distro, and got them set up with source control and bug tracking |
| 22:38.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:38.44 | kergoth | yay for shaking thigns up |
| 22:38.49 | kergoth | TimRiker: hey |
| 22:38.54 | file[laptop] | how did they take to it? |
| 22:39.00 | kergoth | they're happy |
| 22:39.10 | kergoth | especially the developer thats been working without source control and bug tracking for a long time now |
| 22:39.13 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:39.25 | sorphin | hehe |
| 22:39.33 | sorphin | kergoth: i can hear that raise comin ;) |
| 22:39.45 | kergoth | hehe. wait till i start holding training on the gpl and shit :P |
| 22:40.12 | sorphin | ha |
| 22:40.20 | sorphin | OSX x86 running on AMD |
| 22:40.21 | sorphin | cute |
| 22:40.30 | CosmicPenguin | url? |
| 22:40.30 | kergoth | via vmware? heard about that |
| 22:40.44 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:40.45 | sorphin | the vmware |
| 22:40.57 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 22:40.57 | kergoth | know a couple folks that work over there |
| 22:41.03 | kergoth | actually, so do you. scanline works there now |
| 22:41.03 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:41.10 | sorphin | scanline's at AMD |
| 22:41.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:41.17 | kergoth | vmware. |
| 22:41.18 | kergoth | not amd |
| 22:41.18 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:41.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:41.24 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:41.27 | sorphin | misread what you said |
| 22:41.31 | sorphin | wtf is he doing for vmware? |
| 22:41.34 | kergoth | they get beer bashes and console gaming on fridays and shit |
| 22:41.37 | TimRiker | ibot: reverse <kergoth> TimRiker: hey |
| 22:41.52 | kergoth | TimRiker: how goes it? |
| 22:42.01 | sorphin | ibot: kergoth is a strange character |
| 22:42.01 | ibot | ...but kergoth is already something else... |
| 22:42.08 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:42.10 | kergoth | ~kergoth? |
| 22:42.10 | ibot | it has been said that kergoth is an override for #elinux |
| 22:42.13 | kergoth | .. |
| 22:42.15 | sorphin | ~reverse kergoth is a strange character |
| 22:42.17 | TimRiker | fine here. you? I've for lots of linux boxes ready to do my bidding. |
| 22:42.29 | kergoth | TimRiker: heard that, clusters eh? |
| 22:42.36 | sorphin | TimRiker: you need one of these ppc boxes :) |
| 22:42.43 | kergoth | TimRiker: pretty good i guess, not sure what i'm doing career wise, but at least found a linux job to get some cash coming in |
| 22:42.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:43.40 | TimRiker | yep. about 1000 machines. most are dual xenons (so 4 way) 2.8Ghz |
| 22:43.50 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 22:44.00 | TimRiker | 2,4,and 8G ram in different machines. |
| 22:44.33 | jbevren | . o O ( transcode farm ) |
| 22:44.35 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:45.06 | jbevren | sorphin: btw, firewire does sound nice, |
| 22:45.12 | jbevren | but i've never successfully put root on firewire |
| 22:45.13 | TimRiker | with this many boxes there's always something down. I'm walking though doing some cleanup now. |
| 22:45.20 | jbevren | tried a few times on my laptop |
| 22:45.28 | jbevren | I get kernel panic: unable to mount / |
| 22:45.34 | jbevren | and 2sec later, it enumerates the disk |
| 22:45.49 | TimRiker | jbevren: probably need to pivot_root there. |
| 22:46.14 | TimRiker | where's the kernel loading from? |
| 22:46.20 | jbevren | I wasnt using an initrd hehe |
| 22:46.23 | jbevren | hda |
| 22:46.25 | jbevren | (local disk) |
| 22:46.31 | sorphin | jbevren: don't have a 1394 drive case unfortunately |
| 22:46.37 | jbevren | sorphin: ah. |
| 22:46.43 | sorphin | just usb2 |
| 22:46.51 | jbevren | I see |
| 22:46.54 | TimRiker | jbevren: yeah, initrd, with a delay if required should do the trick. |
| 22:46.59 | jbevren | yep |
| 22:47.04 | jbevren | about 5 secs I think I read somewhere |
| 22:47.06 | sorphin | TimRiker: you know you want one of these :) |
| 22:47.17 | jbevren | I put a isp1080 in mine |
| 22:47.20 | jbevren | (scsi card) |
| 22:47.38 | TimRiker | jbevren: just loop reading a /proc/partitions, then umount proc and pivot when it's there. |
| 22:47.46 | jbevren | hey there's an idea |
| 22:47.52 | TimRiker | sorphin: which? |
| 22:48.28 | sorphin | TimRiker: Artis Micro A3000 |
| 22:48.39 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:48.42 | jbevren | too much code |
| 22:48.51 | jbevren | just waiting for hte partition in /proc/partitions should do nicely |
| 22:49.17 | sorphin | TimRiker: ebay item 5228792497 for example |
| 22:49.26 | sorphin | jbevren: they upped the shipping to $20 now, heh |
| 22:49.33 | jbevren | rat bastiges |
| 22:49.43 | sorphin | glad i bought 2 when i did ;) |
| 22:49.44 | jbevren | I shoulda offered $10 for a second one when they asked :) |
| 22:50.05 | sorphin | or just bid |
| 22:50.13 | sorphin | that $48 i think went at 48 |
| 22:50.16 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:50.17 | jbevren | ah |
| 22:50.34 | GPSFan | sorphin: no, it went at 51, to me... |
| 22:50.44 | jbevren | gpsfan :) |
| 22:50.48 | sorphin | ha |
| 22:50.54 | sorphin | nice one ken |
| 22:51.00 | GPSFan | was still 9.99 shipping then. |
| 22:51.03 | sorphin | yep |
| 22:51.26 | sorphin | that fedex saver ain't no $9.99 |
| 22:51.32 | sorphin | so prolly why it's higher |
| 22:51.39 | sorphin | they got tired of taking a loss on it |
| 22:52.19 | jbevren | yeah |
| 22:52.25 | sorphin | GPSFan: looked at Port-X much yet? |
| 22:52.30 | jbevren | the printed doc they gave me |
| 22:52.31 | jbevren | hehe |
| 22:52.33 | jbevren | only the even pages |
| 22:52.39 | sorphin | one was even |
| 22:52.41 | sorphin | the other was odd |
| 22:52.44 | sorphin | hw is one |
| 22:52.46 | sorphin | sw is the other |
| 22:52.48 | GPSFan | in the paypal comments field I reminded them to ship the antennas and send me a tracking #. ;>) |
| 22:53.08 | TimRiker | where are all the wireless cards they pulled? ;-) |
| 22:53.22 | sorphin | TimRiker: they were just hermes cards |
| 22:53.23 | jbevren | dissapeared :( |
| 22:53.24 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:53.43 | jbevren | I want my antennae |
| 22:53.45 | sorphin | jbevren: did you ahve antennae? |
| 22:53.47 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:53.48 | sorphin | you too |
| 22:53.49 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:53.53 | sorphin | call them |
| 22:54.00 | sorphin | i still need to |
| 22:54.07 | sorphin | ken mailed them |
| 22:54.13 | sorphin | but who knows how well that'll work |
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| 22:54.24 | sorphin | they can't even answer the questions right ;) |
| 22:55.03 | jbevren | Thanks NO. |
| 22:55.11 | jbevren | :) |
| 22:55.26 | sorphin | and it wasn't supposed to have those hard copies, nor the cd w/ all the schematics, etc |
| 22:55.32 | sorphin | apparently for Ann |
| 22:55.36 | sorphin | No = Yes |
| 22:55.37 | sorphin | and Yes = No |
| 22:55.45 | jbevren | maybe theyre making up for no antennae |
| 22:55.53 | jbevren | shrug. I just pulled the pigtails anyway |
| 22:56.23 | sorphin | TimRiker: neat lil box tho |
| 22:56.28 | sorphin | PCI-104 |
| 22:56.34 | jbevren | grr. cant set the time of day |
| 22:56.42 | sorphin | jbevren: i know, no RTC |
| 22:56.45 | jbevren | need to add the pci104 header, but the pads are there |
| 22:56.50 | jbevren | sorphin: not even in software? |
| 22:57.03 | GPSFan | jbevren: those pigtails go for at least $10-15. |
| 22:57.08 | jbevren | GPSFan: Yeah |
| 22:57.10 | sorphin | :) |
| 22:57.16 | jbevren | I'm not going to dispose of/destroy em |
| 22:57.21 | jbevren | I'm sure they'll be handy eventually :) |
| 22:57.25 | sorphin | seen RSMA |
| 22:57.28 | GPSFan | jbevren: good move.. |
| 22:57.29 | sorphin | not seen the other end tho |
| 22:57.38 | GPSFan | sorphin: UFL |
| 22:57.47 | sorphin | Ultra F'in Little? |
| 22:57.50 | sorphin | ;) |
| 22:58.56 | CosmicPenguin | weak |
| 22:59.03 | sorphin | in all honesty |
| 22:59.07 | sorphin | while this vmware thing is neat |
| 22:59.11 | sorphin | it's still not *native* |
| 22:59.15 | sorphin | since you're running in vmware |
| 22:59.20 | sorphin | NOT straight on your peecee |
| 22:59.38 | sorphin | oh wait |
| 22:59.43 | sorphin | this guy did it w/ no vmware |
| 23:00.48 | GPSFan | sorphin: UFL are used on mini-PCI WiFi cards |
| 23:01.31 | sorphin | ah |
| 23:01.46 | sorphin | well, my WRt doesn't have the minipci (too new) |
| 23:01.51 | sorphin | so that's why i'd not seen it |
| 23:07.28 | jbevren | why cant I turn nfs support on? |
| 23:10.41 | *** part/#elinux cbrake (n=cbrake@cpe-204-210-216-174.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 23:12.51 | sorphin | cuz you suck? ;) |
| 23:13.21 | jbevren | yeah thats real mature :) |
| 23:15.48 | jbevren | apparently, networking is NOT default :) |
| 23:15.48 | sorphin | jbevren: and? |
| 23:17.12 | jbevren | tcp/IP networking wasnt on |
| 23:17.16 | jbevren | . o O ( wtf? ) |
| 23:17.17 | jbevren | hehe |
| 23:18.37 | sorphin | jbevren: as i said, dave ;) |
| 23:19.06 | jbevren | of all the arch's Ive built for, this is the first Ive seen with networking off by default |
| 23:19.15 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:19.17 | sorphin | ooooooooh |
| 23:19.19 | sorphin | erm |
| 23:19.21 | sorphin | oooooooook |
| 23:19.25 | jbevren | :) |
| 23:20.37 | jbevren | we -were- going to go camping, but like the n+10 other times, 5p friday they cancel |
| 23:21.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:26.31 | sorphin | heh |
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| 23:32.35 | jbevren | anime |
| 23:32.41 | jbevren | aired in japan last week |
| 23:32.41 | jbevren | heh |
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| 23:54.50 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: prpplague |
| 23:54.50 | ibot | somebody said prpplague was mailto:danders@amltd.com or Dave Anders |
| 23:55.06 | CosmicPenguin | I don't need the mailto: part, you dumb bot |