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| 00:24.04 | fishhead | TURN ON NEWS, JET HAVING LANDING GEAR PROBLEM |
| 00:24.30 | fishhead | TURN ON NEWS, JET HAVING LANDING GEAR PROBLEM |
| 00:34.58 | sorphin | i couldn't care less about the cable part of it |
| 00:46.00 | T0mW | well, source level debug works. Insight has some "funnies" though... |
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| 01:03.28 | fishhead | what fucking idiot designed this airbus so they can't dump fuel in emergency, must have been some faggot tree huggers who would rather see people die than dump fuel |
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| 01:20.29 | fishhead | give that pilot a medal! |
| 01:43.40 | MonMotha | sorphin: well, good, because it appears that they're rather useless as cable boxes, oddly enough |
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| 02:46.40 | sorphin | MonMotha: ;) |
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| 03:32.41 | jbevren | yawn |
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| 03:35.47 | jbevren | hm |
| 03:35.54 | jbevren | I think I'll just pick this ltrace log up in the morning |
| 03:49.06 | jbevren | yep. just what I thought |
| 03:49.10 | jbevren | open /dev/ttyS0 |
| 03:49.14 | jbevren | ioctl it a few times |
| 03:49.15 | jbevren | close it |
| 03:49.19 | jbevren | no wonder the driver doesnt work |
| 03:58.03 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:58.15 | sorphin | jbevren: next time, don't buy junk ;) |
| 03:59.42 | jbevren | the hardware's not junk |
| 03:59.44 | jbevren | the software is. |
| 03:59.51 | jbevren | the hardware isnt closing the device node without reading it |
| 03:59.56 | jbevren | :) |
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| 04:10.12 | jbevren | wtf |
| 04:10.16 | jbevren | dynapro does the same thing |
| 04:10.19 | jbevren | open ioctl close |
| 04:10.34 | jbevren | yet another piece of crapware that never gets checked |
| 04:10.40 | jbevren | I'm so not surprised |
| 04:10.53 | jbevren | it never writes ttyS0, never reads it |
| 04:12.27 | T0mW | hmmm |
| 04:12.30 | T0mW | FAT: codepage cp437 not found |
| 04:12.31 | T0mW | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1) |
| 04:12.40 | T0mW | getting closer |
| 04:13.19 | T0mW | jbevren: what you working on? |
| 04:15.44 | jbevren | dynapro (mmmtouch) touchscreen support |
| 04:15.55 | jbevren | aha! |
| 04:16.02 | jbevren | it doesnt keep the dev open if its not the core pointer |
| 04:16.23 | T0mW | heh |
| 04:16.34 | jbevren | sorphin: shaddup |
| 04:16.34 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:19.59 | jbevren | heh |
| 04:20.04 | jbevren | this computer's a little odd |
| 04:20.13 | jbevren | the dynapro controller's on a pc/104 card |
| 04:20.20 | jbevren | same card has an ide/cf adapter |
| 04:20.52 | jbevren | the dynapro goes to the on-sbc serial port, and the CF adapter goes right to the ide port (made to suit on the ide, cable on the serial) |
| 04:21.05 | jbevren | so I guess pc/104 is just for power and mounting convenience |
| 04:21.34 | T0mW | hmm, I found it, it is a PCMCIA --> CF thingy, too bad my Mother snagged my notebook a few years ago... :( |
| 04:21.47 | T0mW | AH! |
| 04:21.59 | T0mW | I remember how I did it last time! |
| 04:22.22 | jbevren | ok so the Mouse dev is AlwaysCore, and the TS is CorePointer |
| 04:22.24 | jbevren | works |
| 04:23.23 | jbevren | now I need to either mod the heatsink to not cover the pci slot or get some other audio device |
| 04:27.47 | jbevren | nice.. XV overlay works |
| 04:27.49 | jbevren | same its just a p166 |
| 04:30.54 | T0mW | Well, this is it for me. I got linux to boot on the lpd7a400, it reads the init script off the CF, then locks busybox up. not surprising as that busybox was compiled for SA1100, not ARM920. |
| 04:31.01 | T0mW | all in all, a good days work |
| 04:31.06 | T0mW | night |
| 04:31.13 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:31.15 | jbevren | congrats t0m |
| 04:37.10 | sorphin | jbevren: shaddup? i didn't say anything |
| 04:37.45 | jbevren | yeah |
| 04:37.49 | jbevren | but you would have I'm sure :) |
| 04:37.51 | jbevren | hehe |
| 04:37.53 | sorphin | nope |
| 04:37.55 | jbevren | anyway |
| 04:37.57 | jbevren | it works |
| 04:38.00 | sorphin | good |
| 04:38.32 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:38.36 | sorphin | can you calibrate it tho? |
| 04:38.39 | jbevren | yeah |
| 04:38.44 | jbevren | the mmmtouch driver comes with a calib app |
| 04:38.51 | jbevren | and the calibration is live, not after-restarting-x |
| 04:39.09 | sorphin | right |
| 04:39.11 | jbevren | thus my avoidance of the dynapro driver, which has no calibration app |
| 04:39.15 | sorphin | yeah |
| 04:39.17 | jbevren | and you have to guess at numbers :) |
| 04:39.27 | sorphin | yeah |
| 04:39.48 | jbevren | so I calibrated it with my sharpie pen's cap |
| 04:40.10 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:40.36 | jbevren | it works well enough with finger presses |
| 04:40.44 | sorphin | yeah |
| 04:40.58 | sorphin | but after a while that degrades things |
| 04:41.25 | jbevren | howso? |
| 04:41.32 | jbevren | I think this one used to be at a shipping dock |
| 04:41.37 | jbevren | its lmhostid was 'tsdock' |
| 04:42.15 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:42.30 | sorphin | well, is anything protecting the touchscreen? |
| 04:42.32 | jbevren | it also has ink-pen scratches over the start button |
| 04:42.33 | jbevren | lol |
| 04:42.41 | jbevren | the area works fine though |
| 04:42.51 | jbevren | sorphin: dunno, I havent dismantled the display sandwich |
| 04:43.29 | sorphin | ah |
| 04:44.44 | jbevren | next step is to build adapters |
| 04:44.50 | jbevren | every freakin' thing is db9 on the back |
| 04:44.54 | jbevren | ethernet, kbd :-X |
| 04:45.16 | jbevren | the usb ports arent extended to the shell, but I'll probably fix that |
| 04:45.28 | jbevren | (I'm using usb atm for the keyboard) |
| 04:45.49 | sorphin | ha |
| 04:47.11 | jbevren | I just need to assign these to something or other |
| 04:47.18 | jbevren | right now theyre just neat gadgets :P |
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| 04:50.57 | jbevren | sleep time |
| 05:16.08 | MonMotha | sorphin: I was surprised how little the cable co's seem to know about their digital setups |
| 05:17.34 | T` | MonMotha, can't you try to get a box from someone who uses their service and read the flash off? |
| 05:26.31 | sorphin | T`: heh |
| 05:26.43 | sorphin | you act like there's tons of DCT5k's out in the field |
| 05:26.48 | sorphin | there are mostly DCT3ks |
| 05:27.06 | MonMotha | T`: I could, if anyone used DCT5ks |
| 05:27.07 | sorphin | MonMotha: doesn't surprise me |
| 05:27.32 | MonMotha | also, I'd have to open the box, which is difficult and obvious to do without the security bit |
| 05:27.33 | sorphin | MonMotha: they think their signal is superior because they take analog and shove it in digitally compressed |
| 05:27.40 | MonMotha | so if the box is leased, the cable co might get pissed |
| 05:27.41 | sorphin | MonMotha: uh |
| 05:27.57 | sorphin | MonMotha: you talking security torx? |
| 05:28.06 | MonMotha | that's definately not what are on these cable boxes |
| 05:28.14 | MonMotha | they're the same screw as a nintendo cart |
| 05:28.21 | sorphin | ah yeah |
| 05:28.29 | MonMotha | you can get the little socket thing, but it's not easy to acquire or exactly cheap |
| 05:28.32 | sorphin | was a pain getting them outta the dct5k |
| 05:28.43 | MonMotha | I spent about 4 hours with a pair of pliers to get mine out |
| 05:28.46 | sorphin | i used a flathead and some strong pliers |
| 05:28.47 | sorphin | yep |
| 05:28.47 | MonMotha | now I just have phillips :) |
| 05:29.07 | MonMotha | and I know what you're talking about with digital |
| 05:29.21 | MonMotha | these guys compress their cable so much that it macroblocks when there's any significant motion |
| 05:29.28 | sorphin | yep |
| 05:29.30 | MonMotha | apparently this is an old 400MHz system |
| 05:29.36 | MonMotha | so they don't have much raw bandwidth to work with |
| 05:29.45 | sorphin | nod |
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| 05:30.14 | MonMotha | I'd really like a cable box with working IEEE1394 |
| 05:30.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:30.30 | MonMotha | it's really annoying to have to IR blast my cable box and digitize the composite output |
| 05:30.39 | MonMotha | it's fscking MPEG2 on the wire already, just give me the damn program stream |
| 05:30.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:30.48 | sorphin | well |
| 05:30.54 | sorphin | the dct5k supports a hdd :) |
| 05:31.04 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 05:31.08 | MonMotha | I'd need firmware that implements it |
| 05:31.19 | MonMotha | I'd rather just grab the bitstream off the IEEE1394 port and feed it to MythTV |
| 05:31.28 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:31.48 | sorphin | man, 3-in-1 oil is handy |
| 05:31.58 | MonMotha | hum, apparently many cable cos are using the DCT-6200 for their HD stuff |
| 05:31.58 | sorphin | one of my case fans wouldn't really turn |
| 05:32.05 | sorphin | and even powered |
| 05:32.06 | sorphin | barely |
| 05:32.10 | sorphin | took off the label |
| 05:32.15 | sorphin | took off the lil rubber cap |
| 05:32.18 | T` | sorphin, hehe.. i'm a n00b to cable... i dont/never have digi cable |
| 05:32.25 | sorphin | couple drops on the bearings |
| 05:32.28 | sorphin | cap back on |
| 05:32.31 | sorphin | works perfect again |
| 05:32.39 | sorphin | T`: i have sat :P |
| 05:32.49 | sorphin | never had digi |
| 05:32.51 | MonMotha | T`: if you don't do digital here, you get the local network affialiates (and it looks horrible, antenna is better), ESPN, some home shopping channels, and that's about it |
| 05:32.54 | sorphin | i just know how it works |
| 05:33.10 | MonMotha | sorphin: odd things is that I can't even get my pcHDTV to see the muxes |
| 05:33.17 | T` | MonMotha, hehe .. i have comcast basic channels (analog) |
| 05:33.19 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:33.25 | sorphin | MonMotha: interesting |
| 05:33.27 | T` | i get like 80 chans... |
| 05:33.28 | MonMotha | they may be running QAM64 instead of QAM256, which would mean I wouldn't see it |
| 05:33.34 | sorphin | could be |
| 05:33.40 | MonMotha | since I only have firmware for my card to do 256 |
| 05:33.51 | sorphin | yeah |
| 05:34.05 | MonMotha | I can see ONE mux, with like 3 channels. Probably those are the local broadcasters or something |
| 05:34.09 | MonMotha | oddly enough, it's encrypted |
| 05:34.14 | MonMotha | and there's no PSIP |
| 05:34.24 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:34.40 | MonMotha | I guess I could take a spec analyzer to the cable line and see where everything is |
| 05:34.53 | MonMotha | though it's difficult to spot QAM256 vs. QAM64 just from a spectrum |
| 05:35.10 | MonMotha | bwt, /. is now using CSS layouts |
| 05:35.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:35.14 | MonMotha | it's kinda freaky |
| 05:35.21 | sorphin | earlier it 503'd :P |
| 05:35.39 | sorphin | ya know |
| 05:35.42 | sorphin | this is the 3rd time |
| 05:35.47 | sorphin | in the past couple months |
| 05:35.50 | sorphin | i've gotten mod points |
| 05:35.51 | sorphin | again |
| 05:35.55 | sorphin | i rarely post |
| 05:35.58 | sorphin | don't metamod |
| 05:36.00 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:36.04 | MonMotha | I never post, never metamod |
| 05:36.10 | sorphin | wish they'd have given them a few days ago |
| 05:36.10 | MonMotha | I get mod points about every 3rd week |
| 05:36.17 | sorphin | for the magstripe hotel story |
| 05:36.18 | MonMotha | yeah, I never have them when I need them |
| 05:36.23 | sorphin | someone made a really intelligent comment |
| 05:36.29 | sorphin | which is rare |
| 05:36.33 | MonMotha | indeed |
| 05:36.45 | MonMotha | sometimes I wish it was possible to use like all 5 of your points to +6 somethign that's at +5 |
| 05:37.00 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:39.15 | T` | haha top gear is funny |
| 05:39.24 | T` | its on discovery if you guys are interested :) |
| 05:39.35 | sorphin | the 1 time i watched it |
| 05:39.46 | sorphin | was because they were testing an astin-martin |
| 05:41.09 | T` | heh.. this time he is talking about british cars... rover, morgan and noble |
| 05:41.34 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:41.42 | sorphin | rover is owned by ford atm |
| 05:41.53 | sorphin | bmw bought rover, kept mini, sold rover to ford |
| 05:42.27 | T` | haha good work by bmw |
| 05:42.51 | T` | clarkson hates rover.. he was bragging how it sucks |
| 05:43.48 | sorphin | ya |
| 05:50.46 | T` | MonMotha, what do you require the firmware for btw? the decryption code? |
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| 06:54.27 | MonMotha | T`: it has no firmware whatsoever |
| 06:54.32 | MonMotha | nothing but a bootloader |
| 06:54.53 | MonMotha | there's nothing to actually tell it to pull video, feed it to an output, anything like that |
| 06:55.16 | MonMotha | I do need teh decryption stuff, but the stock OS (if I could acquire) that should have the needed routines, and the box is authorized with the cable co |
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| 13:09.04 | prpplague | anyone here have experience loading apps into ram via jtag to an arm device? |
| 13:11.10 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:04.23 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - today is not going to suck |
| 14:04.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 14:05.05 | file[laptop] | Thursday... I could never get the hang of Thursday |
| 14:05.25 | CosmicPenguin | I lied |
| 14:05.30 | CosmicPenguin | apparently today is going to suck very much |
| 14:05.39 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 14:06.44 | CosmicPenguin | I hate this place |
| 14:06.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that bad? |
| 14:07.24 | CosmicPenguin | that annoying |
| 14:10.49 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, well, I knew the risks when I signed up |
| 14:10.57 | CosmicPenguin | If we had wanted to live forever, we wouldn't have done embedded linux |
| 14:15.15 | sorphin | heh |
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| 14:16.21 | file[laptop] | meep |
| 14:17.26 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: can't be worse than the job I had at xandros ... |
| 14:17.52 | sorphin | file[laptop]: ok mr VoIP |
| 14:18.13 | file[laptop] | ALERT: VoIP detected. |
| 14:18.16 | sorphin | friend here wants the cheapest FXS he can get (meaning, a sipura isn't cheap enough) |
| 14:18.16 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
| 14:18.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I've decided that today I'm going to bite the bullet and buy all the computer crap I've been meaning to for a year now |
| 14:18.21 | sorphin | chouimat: lo |
| 14:18.29 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: uh oh |
| 14:18.32 | file[laptop] | a Sipura isn't cheap enough? PAP2-NA is cheapest. |
| 14:18.39 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going to get another server, a switch, a rack and probably two hard drives to stick in my epia and turn it into a NAS |
| 14:18.50 | sorphin | file[laptop]: thanks to his wife |
| 14:18.58 | sorphin | because of a bbq he bought years ago |
| 14:19.04 | sorphin | coming up with $60 |
| 14:19.11 | sorphin | isn't very easy |
| 14:19.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:19.13 | file[laptop] | VoIP equipment and cheap doesn't go together |
| 14:19.18 | sorphin | i know |
| 14:19.23 | sorphin | i just thought i'd attempt |
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| 14:19.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hmm |
| 14:19.43 | sorphin | i need a very small |
| 14:19.50 | sorphin | doesn't have to be super fast |
| 14:19.53 | sorphin | peecee |
| 14:20.18 | CosmicPenguin | get a shuttle |
| 14:20.20 | T0mW | morning all, you too sorphin |
| 14:20.37 | sorphin | don't care if the cpu is intel or amd, but if it has onboard ether, it has to be intel ethernet |
| 14:20.51 | sorphin | T0mW: oh go debug yourself, you old codger |
| 14:21.08 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I recommend a shuttle - you can get a 3400+ at worst buy for 1k |
| 14:21.08 | prpplague | T0mW: hey, were you having problems with your webpage yesterday? |
| 14:21.09 | T0mW | :) |
| 14:21.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: uh |
| 14:21.24 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, the T1 was pulled, time to move the site |
| 14:21.25 | file[laptop] | houston we have power |
| 14:21.25 | sorphin | too $ |
| 14:21.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: And kergoth said that shuttle sells older systems on their website for cheaper |
| 14:21.53 | sorphin | then the're sthe case issue |
| 14:21.57 | sorphin | i've seen their cases |
| 14:22.02 | T0mW | prpplague: remember when you got your first Dremel? How you wondered how you ever got along without one? |
| 14:22.04 | sorphin | this neds to fit... |
| 14:22.11 | sorphin | needs |
| 14:22.19 | T0mW | prpplague: the BDI-2000 is that way. |
| 14:22.21 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe |
| 14:22.23 | sorphin | go look up a cisco 1600/1700 series router |
| 14:22.24 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 14:22.26 | sorphin | that form factor |
| 14:22.27 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:22.36 | sorphin | T0mW: i love my new dremel |
| 14:22.40 | sorphin | LiIon |
| 14:22.44 | T0mW | prpplague: I got so much sh!t done yesterday |
| 14:22.45 | sorphin | battery lasts for ever |
| 14:22.49 | sorphin | and it's not weak |
| 14:22.57 | prpplague | T0mW: brings debugging to a new level |
| 14:23.22 | sorphin | as much as i've sharpened with it, and cut, and the battery just last night finally went down to the 2nd bar |
| 14:23.52 | T0mW | prpplague: really, not only does it debug, but I was using it to flash the lpd7a400 |
| 14:24.49 | file[laptop] | ' |
| 14:24.59 | sorphin | hehe |
| 14:25.18 | T0mW | sorphin: I think it might be time for me to retire the corded Dremel, it is about 14 years old now |
| 14:25.36 | sorphin | T0mW: i was skeptical about this one |
| 14:25.40 | sorphin | since it's cordless |
| 14:25.47 | sorphin | and i'd heard that the cordless ones were weak |
| 14:25.56 | sorphin | this thing is nothing but the opposite |
| 14:26.07 | sorphin | if you're in the market, i recommend checking it out |
| 14:26.21 | T0mW | sorphin: is it a Dremel dremel, or some other brand? |
| 14:26.22 | sorphin | 10.8v LiIon |
| 14:26.24 | sorphin | no |
| 14:26.26 | sorphin | it's real dremel |
| 14:26.29 | T0mW | k |
| 14:27.06 | sorphin | T0mW: http://dremel.com/HTML/home_fr.html |
| 14:27.12 | sorphin | it's right there |
| 14:27.26 | T0mW | I have to remember to stop by the hobby shop, I also need some newer carbide cutting tools, mine are getting dull. |
| 14:27.35 | sorphin | and i've let it sit for a while, and the battery doesn't drop |
| 14:27.45 | sorphin | i have tons of cutting wheels |
| 14:27.52 | sorphin | scary tho how easy they break :P |
| 14:28.07 | T0mW | heh, I buy them by the 20 pack |
| 14:28.10 | sorphin | yeah |
| 14:28.27 | CosmicPenguin | A while back, Costco had a sick 300 piece dremel attachment set |
| 14:28.28 | sorphin | used the fiber reinforced ones? |
| 14:28.34 | CosmicPenguin | I really hope my wife bought it for me for christmas |
| 14:28.37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: bought one (not from costco tho) |
| 14:28.39 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: oh, drat |
| 14:28.42 | sorphin | got it from lowes |
| 14:28.52 | T0mW | sorphin: no |
| 14:28.55 | CosmicPenguin | I have a basic set - just the regular cutters, though |
| 14:28.56 | sorphin | was 20 or 30 $ |
| 14:29.10 | CosmicPenguin | I love the mower blade attachment though |
| 14:29.15 | sorphin | yep |
| 14:29.15 | T0mW | lol |
| 14:29.18 | sorphin | used that |
| 14:29.22 | T0mW | oh |
| 14:29.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: sharpens shovels nicely too |
| 14:29.32 | sorphin | :) |
| 14:29.35 | T0mW | to sharpen the blades not cut the grass. |
| 14:29.49 | sorphin | T0mW: yes tommy |
| 14:29.58 | T0mW | haven't had my tea yet |
| 14:30.00 | CosmicPenguin | It also worked wonders cutting the metal edging for my lawn |
| 14:30.05 | CosmicPenguin | much better then tin snips |
| 14:30.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i had to resize a backplate for a machien the other day |
| 14:30.44 | sorphin | my snips weren't (no pun) cutting it |
| 14:31.03 | sorphin | once i foudn the right trick, the dremel did fine on it |
| 14:31.14 | sorphin | least for me |
| 14:31.14 | T0mW | prpplague: did you need anything in particular? |
| 14:31.18 | sorphin | cutting from the end |
| 14:31.20 | jbevren | might want to consider a chopsaw blade for your circular saw if you do it much :) |
| 14:31.36 | sorphin | jbevren: oh crap, you again ;) |
| 14:32.13 | jbevren | there's a scam ring going on |
| 14:32.24 | jbevren | they keep signing up with us and sending 100k+ paypal fraud mails |
| 14:32.39 | jbevren | I'd call AOL to tell em theyre all signing up from there |
| 14:32.41 | jbevren | but aol wont care |
| 14:32.47 | T0mW | prpplague: you tried apex yet? |
| 14:32.48 | sorphin | right |
| 14:32.55 | prpplague | T0mW: oh i was just refreshing my mem on some of the webpal dev |
| 14:33.00 | sorphin | jbevren: we get people using our web signup crap |
| 14:33.00 | prpplague | T0mW: yea i tried it |
| 14:33.00 | ade|desk | damn dremel is 65 quid over here :( |
| 14:33.03 | jbevren | prolly not since aol has ADTN |
| 14:33.12 | sorphin | and start phishing sites |
| 14:33.15 | sorphin | jbevren: uh |
| 14:33.17 | fishhead | ugh plucker sucks |
| 14:33.22 | sorphin | jbevren: AOL has lots of places |
| 14:33.24 | fishhead | well at least the windows side does |
| 14:33.25 | sorphin | including XO |
| 14:33.30 | jbevren | ah |
| 14:33.32 | fishhead | 100% cpu during page loading and convert and can take hrs |
| 14:33.32 | T0mW | prpplague: I had some trouble figuring it out. it is different, but looks cleaner than blob |
| 14:33.38 | jbevren | of course, aol's not going to be targeted for this |
| 14:33.46 | jbevren | just us since we're letting em sign up :P |
| 14:33.48 | sorphin | jbevren: we also have M$, ebay, paypal |
| 14:33.57 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:34.06 | prpplague | T0mW: yea my main problem with apex is all the inline assembly |
| 14:34.17 | T0mW | prpplague: I dunno when I'll get the page back up, the PCB is going to be here today. |
| 14:34.21 | prpplague | T0mW: and the cli is not what i'm used to |
| 14:34.22 | sorphin | jbevren: during the big DoS attack i had to fight a few weeks back |
| 14:34.28 | sorphin | most of the traffic came in from china telecom |
| 14:34.29 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah |
| 14:34.35 | sorphin | through palo alto |
| 14:34.43 | sorphin | it affected La too |
| 14:34.47 | prpplague | T0mW: np, i was just needing some info for a side project |
| 14:34.48 | sorphin | ebay depeered for a week |
| 14:34.49 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:35.18 | T0mW | prpplague: I'll have to check the new server and see what version of PHP I have on it. |
| 14:35.24 | jbevren | sorphin: route add -net china reject |
| 14:35.31 | sorphin | jbevren: uh |
| 14:35.37 | sorphin | if only it were that simple |
| 14:35.39 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:35.40 | jbevren | if only :) |
| 14:35.49 | sorphin | jbevren: china telecom peers with us |
| 14:35.56 | sorphin | and we can't filter on the edge |
| 14:36.04 | sorphin | we had to have THEM stop the traffic |
| 14:36.06 | prpplague | T0mW: i've gotten my desktop nand flash reader working ok, but i think i'm headed in a different direction for the jb hacking |
| 14:36.17 | jbevren | why cant you filter on the edge? :-X |
| 14:36.19 | sorphin | jbevren: finding a useable contact |
| 14:36.21 | sorphin | was the fun |
| 14:36.29 | sorphin | jbevren: because Cisco GSRs suck |
| 14:36.30 | prpplague | T0mW: i'm gonna jtag on a small serial cli for programming the cards and such |
| 14:36.37 | jbevren | REALLY?! |
| 14:36.39 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:36.45 | jbevren | we had three at burst |
| 14:36.50 | sorphin | jbevren: go try filter on one |
| 14:36.52 | sorphin | :P |
| 14:36.54 | jbevren | the way theyre configured (dont tell anyone) |
| 14:36.55 | sorphin | our fall over |
| 14:37.00 | sorphin | ours even |
| 14:37.00 | jbevren | 30Mbit will knock the thing over |
| 14:37.03 | sorphin | yep |
| 14:37.06 | jbevren | its configured as a vlan switch |
| 14:37.12 | jbevren | incredibly stupid imho |
| 14:37.15 | sorphin | i *heart* our M160s better |
| 14:37.27 | T0mW | prpplague: that is usually it seems to work out, start a home project and it grows in a different direction. Sometimes it is the shelf |
| 14:37.29 | jbevren | they use a network of barney switches for port aggregators, and the gsr12008 handles the vlan switching |
| 14:37.40 | jbevren | baaaaaaaaad design |
| 14:37.47 | sorphin | jbevren: we have 12008s and 12016s |
| 14:37.50 | sorphin | prob is |
| 14:38.03 | sorphin | unless you're using an E3 (Engine Rev 3) |
| 14:38.09 | sorphin | the thing can't handle squat |
| 14:38.11 | prpplague | T0mW: well i've taken an oath this time not to start something new untill i have complete my goal |
| 14:38.16 | jbevren | I have a 300mhz subnotebook, I accidentally took the entire datacenter network out with it |
| 14:38.17 | sorphin | E0s fall over fast |
| 14:38.21 | jbevren | heh |
| 14:38.35 | jbevren | just using ftp |
| 14:38.36 | jbevren | ! |
| 14:38.37 | sorphin | jbevren: there's one major flaw w/ XO |
| 14:38.40 | T0mW | prpplague: shrug, as long as you keep learning |
| 14:38.44 | sorphin | jbevren: they wont' spend $ |
| 14:38.49 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:38.55 | sorphin | they recycle HW |
| 14:38.56 | jbevren | run by jews? (no offense to jews here) |
| 14:39.08 | jbevren | burst is the same way |
| 14:39.12 | jbevren | getting hardware off ebay |
| 14:39.15 | sorphin | hence why we have E0s in the field |
| 14:39.18 | jbevren | not paying for support contracts :P |
| 14:39.31 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:39.35 | sorphin | we have support contracts |
| 14:39.35 | jbevren | 450k emails to purge |
| 14:39.37 | jbevren | good god |
| 14:39.45 | sorphin | jbevren: have fun ;) |
| 14:39.56 | jbevren | grep |cut |xargs exim -Mrm |
| 14:39.58 | jbevren | and tap toes |
| 14:40.13 | sorphin | heh |
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| 14:40.55 | Plouj | hello |
| 14:41.12 | Plouj | can someone tell me which one of these SD card readers is supported by Linux: |
| 14:41.14 | Plouj | http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProdList&cmd=pl&id=990.434&mfg=all&start=20&numPages=2 |
| 14:41.24 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:41.28 | jbevren | Plouj: get one thats usb |
| 14:41.29 | jbevren | :P |
| 14:41.38 | Plouj | any usb?? |
| 14:41.42 | sorphin | yeah |
| 14:41.44 | jbevren | yeah |
| 14:41.47 | jbevren | theyre all block devices |
| 14:41.51 | sorphin | yep |
| 14:41.52 | Plouj | oh |
| 14:41.52 | jbevren | they'll come through the usb-scsi as a scsi disk |
| 14:41.55 | Plouj | like a digital camera |
| 14:42.03 | jbevren | mos digicams are that way |
| 14:42.06 | sorphin | yep |
| 14:42.15 | jbevren | mine has two modes, hdd mode and some stupid picture-transfer mode |
| 14:42.20 | jbevren | I use hdd mode :) |
| 14:42.42 | jbevren | that way I can prepare CF cards for my embedded projects with the cam :) |
| 14:42.50 | sorphin | jbevren: freak |
| 14:43.02 | jbevren | if it works, why not use it :) |
| 14:43.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:43.19 | jbevren | I never use the camera as a camera |
| 14:43.21 | jbevren | sadly enough |
| 14:44.04 | Plouj | so |
| 14:44.10 | Plouj | like this one: http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=006358&cid=990.434 |
| 14:44.15 | Plouj | it says the interface is USB |
| 14:44.25 | Plouj | which I guess means its connected to the PC via USB |
| 14:44.38 | jbevren | yep |
| 14:44.40 | jbevren | I have a similar unit |
| 14:44.47 | jbevren | it comes up with 4 scsi disks, one for each slot |
| 14:45.12 | Plouj | oh cool, it even says Linux is supported |
| 14:45.19 | jbevren | :-) |
| 14:45.30 | jbevren | mine's only 6-in-one |
| 14:45.32 | jbevren | shrug :) |
| 14:45.41 | Plouj | lol |
| 14:45.42 | jbevren | mine was also $5 |
| 14:45.44 | jbevren | :P |
| 14:45.59 | Plouj | my epenis si greater than yours |
| 14:46.24 | jbevren | that's inappropriate content for this channel |
| 14:46.43 | Plouj | ok, I'll tuck it in |
| 14:47.02 | prpplague | Plouj: this channel is populated by alot of ppl who are at work |
| 14:47.11 | CosmicPenguin | woo-hoo! dual dual opteron boxen in the hizouse! |
| 14:47.28 | Plouj | prpplague: heh, sorry, I've in a few channels like that |
| 14:47.31 | Plouj | but they don't care |
| 14:48.10 | fishhead | prpplague, i told him to come here |
| 14:48.17 | Plouj | ya, blame fishhead |
| 14:48.19 | fishhead | because you guys would know which ones work with linux |
| 14:48.24 | prpplague | Plouj: irc from work is a privilage and can be easily revoked if mangement considers is vulgar or inappropriate |
| 14:48.35 | fishhead | oh I see |
| 14:48.38 | fishhead | he made a penis joke |
| 14:48.42 | Plouj | prpplague: I guess, if the management knows you're on irc.. |
| 14:48.44 | fishhead | BAD BAD CANUCK! |
| 14:48.56 | jbevren | Plouj: management doesnt need to |
| 14:48.57 | Plouj | for example, at my work, my managers don't know what IRC is |
| 14:49.01 | jbevren | paranoid network admins will see it |
| 14:49.12 | Plouj | my managers are admins.. unfortunately |
| 14:49.42 | Plouj | I'm not justifying myself or anything |
| 14:50.58 | prpplague | Plouj: as i said, we have many Professionals here |
| 14:51.07 | jbevren | nod. |
| 14:51.14 | jbevren | and some of us are good professionals |
| 14:51.24 | Plouj | well, I apologize, once again |
| 14:51.37 | Plouj | and its cool to be amongst professionals for once |
| 14:51.37 | jbevren | no prob :P |
| 14:52.19 | Plouj | now, the reason I'm gonna get the card reader, is to check wether the SD card that I have is a brick, or if my iPAQ is acting up |
| 14:52.28 | prpplague | Plouj: np, just keep it in mind |
| 14:52.36 | Plouj | you got it |
| 14:52.53 | fishhead | yeha plouj, don't follow my examples in the past in this channel |
| 14:52.58 | fishhead | when I was stressed out |
| 14:52.59 | prpplague | Plouj: you can grab a usb card reader cheap at just about any store |
| 14:53.24 | prpplague | Plouj: i've yet to find one that doesn't work with the mass storage device driver |
| 14:53.34 | fishhead | ah |
| 14:53.41 | fishhead | that work like usb flash drives do also? |
| 14:53.43 | fishhead | I didn't know that |
| 14:54.41 | Plouj | ok, I'm gonna go eat breakfast, then pick it up at a store |
| 14:54.48 | Plouj | thanks guys |
| 14:55.51 | prpplague | as a side note, you can actually use a jtag dongle to access mmc and sd cards |
| 14:56.49 | T0mW | Gee, for $17 that media reader is a steal! |
| 14:57.15 | file | woot check from Google |
| 14:57.18 | file | it's all pretty and stuff |
| 14:57.30 | T0mW | file: large dollar amount? |
| 14:58.02 | file | meh $350 |
| 14:58.18 | T0mW | eh, new mo'board |
| 14:58.24 | file | ha don't need one |
| 14:58.40 | T0mW | file: new gf then |
| 14:58.51 | file | haha |
| 15:00.01 | T0mW | well, I think I'll try to nfsroot this linux source |
| 15:02.42 | T0mW | HA! that url for the medi reader only accepts Canadian address in their shopping cart! |
| 15:03.51 | CosmicPenguin | ooh - and our 20 node build cluster comes on line today |
| 15:03.53 | CosmicPenguin | rock! |
| 15:05.18 | prpplague | T0mW: hey |
| 15:05.24 | T0mW | http://www.supermediastore.com/apacer-mga20-14-in-1-external-card-reader.html |
| 15:05.26 | prpplague | T0mW: question about your lpc project |
| 15:05.28 | T0mW | $15 there |
| 15:05.47 | T0mW | prpplague: ? |
| 15:05.49 | prpplague | T0mW: did you have a serial console interface? |
| 15:06.12 | T0mW | prpplague: well, the linux console is working |
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| 15:06.40 | T0mW | prpplague: I see the boot messages before it loads the SA1100 busybox and locks up |
| 15:06.43 | prpplague | T0mW: ? on the lpc project? |
| 15:06.56 | T0mW | prpplague: sorry, thought you meant lpd |
| 15:07.22 | T0mW | prpplague: the whole thing is serial ports, I have 5 on the board |
| 15:08.01 | T0mW | actually 7 if you count the two that are connected between the two processors for inter processor communication |
| 15:08.25 | prpplague | T0mW: so you had some sort of console port with a cli ? |
| 15:08.34 | T0mW | no |
| 15:08.56 | T0mW | prpplague: there will be a menu system |
| 15:09.15 | T0mW | no cli though, parsing command strings etc |
| 15:09.28 | T0mW | s/parsing/no parsing of/ |
| 15:11.00 | prpplague | hmm ok thanks |
| 15:11.42 | T0mW | prpplague: got to keep the dumb customers from making mistakes: that is why the menus |
| 15:12.21 | T0mW | prpplague: in the target industry, they are familiar with menus |
| 15:14.02 | prpplague | T0mW: just shopping around for some code |
| 15:19.57 | CosmicPenguin | http://tinyurl.com/a28v3 |
| 15:20.03 | CosmicPenguin | Too expensive, but its a start |
| 15:20.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:20.35 | sorphin | we have our own irc server |
| 15:20.36 | sorphin | so i'd say |
| 15:20.39 | sorphin | irc is condoned here |
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| 15:22.47 | CosmicPenguin | http://tinyurl.com/dohu2 |
| 15:26.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 15:27.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: correct me if i'm wrong, but if i recall |
| 15:27.30 | sorphin | the geode |
| 15:27.42 | sorphin | is a direct decendant of the old Cyrix MediaGX |
| 15:28.00 | CosmicPenguin | its a descendant yes - direct, no |
| 15:28.06 | CosmicPenguin | this core is two generations removed |
| 15:28.35 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:29.03 | sorphin | the media GX.. barely worked under JunOS iirc, when i tried the other day |
| 15:29.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: anyone sell that thing not in japan? |
| 15:29.31 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:30.42 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: the LX, currently no |
| 15:30.46 | CosmicPenguin | but it was just released |
| 15:30.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you trying to get a Geode core up and running? |
| 15:31.35 | chouimat | stupid fire alarm test ... 3 hours of this ... me going insane |
| 15:31.49 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: actually i thought you were showing me that, because of the small footprint issue i mentioned |
| 15:32.19 | sorphin | if a geode would work, i'd use it |
| 15:32.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: probably too expensive for your needs |
| 15:33.14 | prpplague | argh, samsungs registration page sucks |
| 15:33.15 | CosmicPenguin | but I was thinking, if you were trying to do geode work for some reason, thats usually when I start giving out hardware... :) |
| 15:33.18 | CosmicPenguin | nudge nudge |
| 15:33.39 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:34.01 | sorphin | what specs? |
| 15:34.25 | sorphin | depending onthe specs, could be used as a nice lil routing/firewall appliance |
| 15:35.15 | sorphin | (tho i'd still kill for an alchemy :(, remind me never to ignore you again :P ) |
| 15:36.13 | sorphin | actually |
| 15:36.26 | sorphin | i think the only person i'll be ignoring on a permanent basis is mr head |
| 15:36.41 | sorphin | i'll just take veryone else w/ a grain of NaCl |
| 15:36.47 | sorphin | even kergoth :P |
| 15:37.45 | ade|desk | sorphin: cheeky git |
| 15:37.57 | sorphin | ade|desk: wotcher |
| 15:38.26 | ade|desk | sorphin: oh so now you're being nice .... |
| 15:38.33 | ade|desk | sorphin: lo laddy |
| 15:38.43 | sorphin | ade|desk: alright? |
| 15:38.53 | ade|desk | sorphin: yeah you ? |
| 15:39.12 | sorphin | just be glad when this week is over.. i hate playing catchup after being on holiday |
| 15:39.16 | ade|desk | sorphin: recovering from a back problem , but yeah fine in general |
| 15:39.52 | sorphin | ade|desk: met a nice liverpoolian couple whilst on holiday.. their 1st time to the states |
| 15:39.52 | ade|desk | fixing the crap that people break when you are away is a pita |
| 15:40.05 | ade|desk | did they nick your car ? |
| 15:40.10 | sorphin | ha |
| 15:40.17 | sorphin | negative |
| 15:40.24 | sorphin | it was here safe at home w/ a dead battery |
| 15:40.32 | sorphin | i was down in florida |
| 15:40.35 | ade|desk | thats unlike them , sure they are from liverpool ? |
| 15:40.40 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:40.59 | sorphin | ade|desk: i think they were one of the rare decent ones |
| 15:41.08 | sorphin | i think they may just live there |
| 15:41.18 | sorphin | the lass sounded right scottish by her accent |
| 15:41.49 | ade|desk | ah even the scottish are migrating .. whats the world coming to? |
| 15:41.56 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:42.03 | sorphin | ade|desk: well, bloody london is too expensive |
| 15:42.22 | sorphin | ade|desk: where are you hiding at these days? |
| 15:42.49 | ade|desk | still living near ely, just north of cambridge |
| 15:42.58 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:43.02 | ade|desk | working in norfolk as always |
| 15:43.11 | sorphin | i was only in cambridge for an evening |
| 15:43.21 | ade|desk | live about 20 mins from pb_ |
| 15:43.21 | sorphin | didnt' look to be a bad lil place |
| 15:43.29 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:43.29 | sorphin | cool |
| 15:43.38 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
| 15:43.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 15:43.42 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart subversion |
| 15:43.50 | ade|desk | not that i've seen him for about 2 years |
| 15:43.54 | sorphin | hahaha |
| 15:43.58 | sorphin | ibot: ok lilo |
| 15:44.00 | ibot | Linux boot loader. URL: ftp://lrcftp.epfl.ch/pub/linux/local/lilo/lilo-21.tar.gz, or a freenode op |
| 15:44.19 | sorphin | it's freenode monkey |
| 15:44.22 | sorphin | get it right |
| 15:44.26 | ade|desk | lol |
| 15:44.37 | sorphin | ade|desk: petrol too expensive for you lot? ;) |
| 15:44.48 | ade|desk | grrr dont get me started |
| 15:44.53 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:45.10 | sorphin | they said it was up to 1.20/litre when they left |
| 15:45.15 | sorphin | or near that |
| 15:45.35 | sorphin | time to break out the bicycle |
| 15:45.41 | ade|desk | na , they lie: max 101.9p / litre |
| 15:45.50 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:45.59 | sorphin | still more than what it was in 2000 when i was over |
| 15:46.08 | ade|desk | hell yeah |
| 15:46.09 | sorphin | it was 89p/litre |
| 15:46.18 | ade|desk | sounds about right |
| 15:46.25 | sorphin | near my house |
| 15:46.33 | sorphin | it's $2.65/gal |
| 15:46.34 | ade|desk | was 78.9p ~1998 |
| 15:46.54 | sorphin | yeah |
| 15:47.02 | ade|desk | yeah yeah dont bost |
| 15:47.06 | sorphin | ade|desk: how's the lass? |
| 15:47.15 | sorphin | ade|desk: heh boast? my mini doesnt' sip |
| 15:47.17 | ade|desk | married life is good :) |
| 15:47.35 | sorphin | esp when requiring 91+ octane |
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| 15:47.46 | ade|desk | you got one of those new minis ? |
| 15:47.48 | sorphin | costs me close to $30 to fill up |
| 15:48.06 | sorphin | ade|desk: uh.. yeah.. back in Oct 03 |
| 15:48.15 | sorphin | 04 S |
| 15:48.30 | sorphin | i'd love a classic tho |
| 15:48.54 | ade|desk | my lass is having a hard time at school, the little shits are just too inbread and don't want to learn |
| 15:49.02 | sorphin | ade|desk: doh |
| 15:49.13 | sorphin | ade|desk: from wales are they? |
| 15:49.21 | ade|desk | my bro in law is a mini freak |
| 15:49.31 | ade|desk | fenland |
| 15:49.38 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:50.06 | ade|desk | fenland == flat crappy place only good for growing onions |
| 15:50.11 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:50.33 | ade|desk | good soil , but weird poeple |
| 15:50.40 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - lets find jordan some cheap and fun hardware |
| 15:50.55 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and after that, can jordan get me some specs? :) |
| 15:50.59 | file[laptop] | nope - no cheap and fun hardware for you |
| 15:51.01 | CosmicPenguin | I summon the dark forces of ebay |
| 15:51.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what do you need? |
| 15:51.27 | sorphin | with bkw_ |
| 15:51.29 | sorphin | :P |
| 15:52.09 | file[laptop] | productivity! |
| 15:52.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: unfortunately, need intel chipset ethernet, or atleast ability to slap nics if for that, doesnt' have to be very high power, considering most routers run at 200mhz or less |
| 15:53.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ok - but why do you need specs from me? |
| 15:53.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you mentioned geode hardware, doing something with it |
| 15:53.32 | sorphin | and if you notice below that |
| 15:53.34 | sorphin | i replied |
| 15:53.45 | sorphin | file[laptop]: that's what you call it huh? |
| 15:53.52 | file[laptop] | well we're coworkers |
| 15:54.02 | file[laptop] | we'd probably come out with a redesign of something |
| 15:54.05 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ok, here you go ' |
| 15:54.08 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_9863_13022%5E13060,00.html |
| 15:54.19 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ProductInformation/0,,50_2330_9863_13022%5E13061,00.html |
| 15:54.22 | CosmicPenguin | sorry about the URLs |
| 15:55.12 | sorphin | s'ok |
| 15:55.14 | sorphin | looking |
| 15:56.30 | sorphin | base board and cpu module? |
| 15:56.51 | sorphin | that some odd AMD wording for motherboard and cpu? |
| 15:56.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:57.11 | CosmicPenguin | no - its a little module that fits onto the extended board |
| 15:57.59 | CosmicPenguin | Its a design to show that you can wire up your extended buses apart from the CPU and still be ok |
| 15:58.10 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:58.16 | sorphin | gotcha |
| 15:58.27 | sorphin | hmm |
| 15:58.31 | CosmicPenguin | We use it for more configurability - if we came out with say, a POS RDK, we could use the same CPU module, but different goezoutas on the board |
| 15:58.40 | sorphin | 500mhz would be ok |
| 15:58.42 | sorphin | right |
| 15:59.32 | sorphin | could slap CF on the IDE socket |
| 15:59.37 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, yeah -easily |
| 15:59.39 | CosmicPenguin | thats what I do |
| 15:59.43 | sorphin | hmm |
| 15:59.44 | prpplague | crap |
| 15:59.49 | sorphin | prpplague: no! |
| 15:59.57 | sorphin | no crapping here |
| 15:59.58 | prpplague | samsungs web site is decidedly unfriendly to linux users |
| 15:59.59 | sorphin | go to the toliet |
| 16:00.08 | sorphin | prpplague: yep |
| 16:00.41 | sorphin | hmm |
| 16:00.47 | sorphin | i'd need an active pci riser tho |
| 16:00.59 | CosmicPenguin | how many PCI cards do you need? |
| 16:00.59 | sorphin | since it has 1 slot and no onboard nic |
| 16:01.09 | sorphin | well, need 2 ether interfaces |
| 16:01.27 | CosmicPenguin | holy crap, it doesn't have an onboard? |
| 16:01.39 | CosmicPenguin | yeah it does |
| 16:01.40 | CosmicPenguin | whew |
| 16:01.54 | CosmicPenguin | I thought somebody over in technical marketing land had gone bonkers there for a second |
| 16:01.59 | sorphin | hmm |
| 16:02.04 | sorphin | didn't see it in the specs |
| 16:03.07 | CosmicPenguin | LPC and Ethernet interfaces |
| 16:03.22 | CosmicPenguin | I don't have a salsa in my office, but I'm pretty sure it has an onboard NIC |
| 16:03.29 | CosmicPenguin | that seems like something I would have complained about if I had known |
| 16:03.35 | sorphin | k |
| 16:03.42 | sorphin | happen to know what chipset the nic is? |
| 16:03.47 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, realtek |
| 16:03.51 | sorphin | doh |
| 16:04.02 | sorphin | it'd be getting disabled then |
| 16:04.13 | CosmicPenguin | it would give you another nic in a pinch |
| 16:04.17 | CosmicPenguin | its not bad, its just not good |
| 16:04.18 | sorphin | this stupid code insists on 82558/559 |
| 16:04.20 | CosmicPenguin | its just there |
| 16:04.21 | file | this is creepy |
| 16:04.34 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: at least its not a macphyter |
| 16:04.36 | sorphin | file: yes, you are |
| 16:04.36 | file | a woman who e-mailed us 4 times about billing issues and was extremely mad just called and was extremely nice to us... |
| 16:04.47 | sorphin | file: uh oh |
| 16:04.55 | sorphin | that means a lawyer is following |
| 16:04.57 | file | like she was angry that we charged her card for her colocation fees |
| 16:05.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: what do you have in your office then? |
| 16:06.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: Ok, lets seee |
| 16:06.43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I have a LX turn on board (which is the bigger fatter uglier version of the board you are looking at) |
| 16:06.54 | CosmicPenguin | I have a Osprey, which is the GX equivelent of the salsa |
| 16:07.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: oh. when i was in orlando, i went through a penguin habitat... tons and tons of penguins, naturally i thought of you, heh |
| 16:07.35 | CosmicPenguin | I have a DB1200, a motherboard with a currently not working Athlon64 X2, about 6 different geode flavors on my bookshelf, and two alchemy designs |
| 16:07.38 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:08.23 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:08.29 | sorphin | s/coudl/would/ |
| 16:08.54 | sorphin | tho it'd be a seperate project from this one |
| 16:09.01 | sorphin | since this code.. is x86 |
| 16:09.30 | CosmicPenguin | the alchemy board doesn't have enough througput |
| 16:10.15 | sorphin | the one you were giving away? |
| 16:10.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you've never worked on a cisco router have you? |
| 16:11.02 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, it sounds like you're going for more routing horsepower |
| 16:11.12 | sorphin | my monitor has more throughput than some of their routers |
| 16:11.30 | sorphin | nah |
| 16:11.35 | sorphin | not as much |
| 16:12.00 | sorphin | more of the task that the cpu would get beat on is packet filtering |
| 16:12.09 | sorphin | most of the routing will be static |
| 16:12.24 | sorphin | and if a motorola < 100mhz |
| 16:12.26 | sorphin | can handle it |
| 16:12.37 | sorphin | somehow i think anything can |
| 16:12.38 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:13.02 | sorphin | the cisco pix is just a (least the 506E), a P-300 |
| 16:13.20 | sorphin | the hw works |
| 16:13.23 | sorphin | cisco's code... |
| 16:13.25 | sorphin | well.. |
| 16:13.34 | sorphin | it sucks |
| 16:14.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ok, so the question is, what can I get in return? |
| 16:14.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: a nice embedded routing/firewall platform that performs well and doesn't have a massive footprint, isn't hard to configure |
| 16:15.09 | sorphin | even a web interface |
| 16:15.13 | sorphin | for you web junkies |
| 16:15.16 | sorphin | that wanna click and go |
| 16:15.31 | sorphin | that isn't a stinksys :P |
| 16:16.04 | sorphin | doesn't *require* nat |
| 16:16.17 | sorphin | and can do bridging firewalling if required |
| 16:16.41 | sorphin | also |
| 16:16.52 | sorphin | plan on implementing (my personal favorite) |
| 16:17.16 | sorphin | automatic rule insertion when it sees say, substantial ssh attempts, et al |
| 16:17.57 | sorphin | you can control how passive or agressive it will be |
| 16:18.20 | sorphin | anyways, that's the goal/what you'd get out of it |
| 16:18.52 | sorphin | and being that i work in the network security world |
| 16:19.11 | sorphin | there's plenty of other things i'll probably find to shove in it |
| 16:19.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:19.25 | sorphin | practical |
| 16:19.32 | sorphin | not pretty |
| 16:19.53 | sorphin | i'm tired of seeing logs from customers "I'm being SMURF attacked" |
| 16:19.57 | sorphin | uh huh |
| 16:20.08 | sorphin | or i'm being syn attacked |
| 16:20.25 | sorphin | they don't realize if the firewall is doing it's job |
| 16:21.01 | sorphin | anyways |
| 16:21.26 | sorphin | there's the goal/design/plan/whatever |
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| 16:33.55 | prpplague | hmm there are a ton of references to a bootloader called DBoot for use with uclinux but i can't find the source anywhere |
| 16:34.20 | chouimat | anyone has a small implementation of xpm? |
| 16:45.03 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - its warm in the server room |
| 16:48.39 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: is that why the sysadmins all wear sandals + t-shirts ? |
| 16:53.01 | sorphin | T0mW: heh |
| 16:53.03 | sorphin | none here do |
| 16:53.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: dunno if you saw all the above or not |
| 16:55.11 | CosmicPenguin | so you're going firewall, mainly |
| 16:55.36 | sorphin | prpplague: DOS-partition Boot Loader (DBOOT) ? |
| 16:56.00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: mostly, yeah, intelligent firewall (well, pretty damn smart anyways) |
| 16:56.42 | sorphin | prpplague: http://www.tartarus.org/~simon-anonsvn/viewcvs.cgi/dboot/ |
| 16:56.54 | sorphin | that's looks (atleast to me) what you're looking for |
| 16:59.06 | jbevren | sorphin: found your crystal system in a pullout box |
| 16:59.15 | jbevren | ebay 5810349635 |
| 16:59.16 | jbevren | heh |
| 17:00.04 | sorphin | jbevren: that's what mine are |
| 17:00.15 | jbevren | 48v ones? |
| 17:00.40 | sorphin | 120v ones |
| 17:00.44 | sorphin | same difference |
| 17:00.46 | sorphin | you just change the psu |
| 17:00.57 | sorphin | and i have the 'custom crystal shelf' |
| 17:01.02 | sorphin | that's what mine are on |
| 17:01.29 | sorphin | taht's just the -48v version of what i have |
| 17:02.10 | jbevren | ahh |
| 17:02.14 | sorphin | :) |
| 17:02.43 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - poll time - for my new server, should I use the name demersus or adelie? |
| 17:02.52 | sorphin | well |
| 17:03.06 | sorphin | do you feel it'll be more of a male or female personality server? |
| 17:04.19 | sorphin | personaly tho, i'd go w/ demersus |
| 17:04.19 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... ok - I can see that |
| 17:04.38 | sorphin | my car is a chick |
| 17:04.41 | sorphin | my servers aren't |
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| 17:29.51 | prpplague | sorphin: no, dboot the arm uclinux bootloader |
| 17:39.31 | CosmicPenguin | grr.... |
| 17:51.12 | CosmicPenguin | sometimes I hate ssh |
| 17:55.15 | cdm-work | I often hate busybox. ;) |
| 18:01.47 | CosmicPenguin | Wow |
| 18:01.55 | CosmicPenguin | I've never seen cat /proc/cpuinfo scroll before |
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| 18:21.09 | sorphin | prpplague: well, i dunno then, too many things w/ the same name |
| 18:23.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 18:23.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so, does my proposal sound like something useful? |
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| 18:48.17 | sorphin | cdm-work: afternoon mr apple |
| 18:48.46 | cdm-work | hia hia |
| 18:49.05 | kergoth`food | this is the week from hell |
| 18:49.09 | cdm-work | oh? |
| 18:49.38 | sorphin | cdm-work: don't mind kergoth he needs more scotch :P |
| 18:49.42 | kergoth`food | apparently a tornado touched down 2 miles from my house yesterday. trees knocked down all over the suburbs here. traffic is shot to hell. some people in another suburb had roofs torn off and garages trashed and stuff |
| 18:49.49 | kergoth`food | 70,000 some people still out of power |
| 18:49.59 | kergoth`food | got ours back at 3am last night, thankfully |
| 18:50.08 | cdm-work | kergoth - nasty! |
| 18:52.45 | kergoth`food | not to mention every day this week has felt like a monday |
| 18:59.41 | sorphin | kergoth`food: didnt' you get the memo? every day this week IS monday, they changed the calendar |
| 18:59.48 | kergoth`food | bastards. |
| 19:00.40 | T`2 | kergoth`food, rita hit the land already!? |
| 19:00.51 | sorphin | uh |
| 19:00.56 | sorphin | not that i'm aware of |
| 19:01.06 | kergoth`food | i'm in minnesota, i dont think rita is coming all the way up here :P |
| 19:01.06 | sorphin | T`2: kergoth's in MN now |
| 19:01.14 | T`2 | ok .. so i guess there are multiple hurricanes in US now |
| 19:01.21 | kergoth`food | just a storm last night with some strong winds |
| 19:01.22 | sorphin | uh |
| 19:01.23 | T`2 | ooh nm.. lol |
| 19:01.35 | sorphin | T`2: there doesn't have to be a hurricane to have a tornado ;) |
| 19:01.53 | kergoth`food | indeed. tornados occur in the midwest fairly often |
| 19:02.21 | sorphin | yep |
| 19:02.29 | T`2 | ah .. wasn't aware of that |
| 19:29.32 | CosmicPenguin | we have tornados pretty much daily in some part of Colorado in the early summer |
| 19:30.08 | CosmicPenguin | Wow, they turned Rita north again |
| 19:32.22 | T`2 | i think they are overdoing the rita thing |
| 19:32.39 | T`2 | new orleans was affected so badly because of the breakage of levies... i dont think houston has such probs |
| 19:32.51 | T`2 | but galveston ofcousre should get the heck outta there |
| 19:33.07 | CosmicPenguin | You forgot that more then just NO was affeted by Katrina |
| 19:33.27 | CosmicPenguin | go look at the aerial pictures on noaa.gov |
| 19:33.55 | T`2 | hmm.. sure you got a point there.. |
| 19:38.29 | CosmicPenguin | Homes in Houston are built to code to sustain 110 mph winds in 3 second bursts |
| 19:39.00 | CosmicPenguin | Rita is sustaining 150 mph |
| 19:50.39 | fishhead | hey guys, good news, the pipe for my exhaust on my car was still good, just the weld broken so it only cost me $30 to get fixed, plus $21 for oil change and some other stuff and the tranmission flush I asked you guys if it was worth the $90? IT WAS WORTH EVERY PENNY, the transmission was good before but now it shifts like a bat out of hell :). thanks again for the help |
| 19:57.21 | CosmicPenguin | so, what filesystem should I put on my new server? |
| 19:57.32 | CosmicPenguin | xfs? |
| 19:58.42 | file[laptop] | yes. |
| 19:58.57 | sorphin | yes |
| 19:58.58 | sorphin | xfs |
| 19:59.10 | CosmicPenguin | xfs it is |
| 20:00.13 | sorphin | XFS, Brought to you by SGI (Where we don't fly planes over Dell's Corporate HQ like some other company) |
| 20:00.39 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
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| 20:26.24 | fishhead | scrapes the chicken out of his teeth with a electrolytic capacitor lead |
| 20:37.56 | jbevren | hehe |
| 20:38.07 | jbevren | I use xfs |
| 20:42.27 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:42.38 | sorphin | once i starting using it |
| 20:42.41 | sorphin | and saw how well it did |
| 20:42.53 | sorphin | i dropped ext3 like bad habit |
| 20:44.28 | sorphin | which, it was a bad habit, so.. |
| 20:44.33 | file[laptop] | my Linux workstation runs ext3 here... mostly because I don't particularly care |
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| 20:45.02 | file[laptop] | meh go ahead |
| 20:45.28 | fishhead | ext3 is good |
| 20:45.34 | fishhead | beats ext2 by far |
| 20:45.42 | fishhead | i also run ntfs when doing 2k or xp |
| 20:45.50 | fishhead | not perfect filesystem by any means |
| 20:45.51 | jbevren | ext3 has some performance impact over ext3 |
| 20:45.53 | fishhead | but 100x better than fat |
| 20:46.26 | sorphin | i love deleting users |
| 20:46.54 | file[laptop] | andersee! |
| 20:47.13 | fishhead | fat has almost 0 way of telling if something wasn't done |
| 20:47.20 | fishhead | same with ext2 although a little better |
| 20:47.38 | fishhead | at least with ext3 you can at least confirm if something is canucked even if you can't save it |
| 20:47.49 | andersee | file[laptop]: howdy |
| 20:50.15 | sorphin | it's mr andersen |
| 20:50.43 | jbevren | fishhead: assuming, of course, the fs journal is up to date. |
| 20:50.57 | jbevren | if your fs journal is out of date, youre worse off, |
| 20:51.05 | jbevren | cause you assume it is, and your fs is damaged, and you go on like its not |
| 20:51.31 | jbevren | I cant count the number of times I've seen 4terabyte files in /var becuase of redhat's b0rked ext3fs patches/drivers |
| 20:51.46 | jbevren | mind you, the disks are all less than 50G |
| 20:52.29 | jbevren | that said, ext2 isnt much better than fat, aside from requiring the erasure of more than one sector to irreprably damage the FS. |
| 20:56.21 | CosmicPenguin | I wish builds were more parallelizeable |
| 20:57.16 | jbevren | heh |
| 20:57.19 | jbevren | I've used that word |
| 20:57.22 | jbevren | I have prior art |
| 20:58.06 | MonMotha | yup, the DCT5ks are useless as cable boxes |
| 20:58.12 | MonMotha | so I guess I'll just port linux to it |
| 20:58.24 | CosmicPenguin | Linux? Is that thing still around? |
| 20:59.16 | sorphin | MonMotha: woo |
| 20:59.31 | sorphin | MonMotha: porting linux won't be so bad... booting will |
| 21:00.12 | MonMotha | sorphin: well, I do have access to a ROM programmer |
| 21:00.27 | MonMotha | if I have to, I can just build a little adapter board that takes two bytewide ROMs and puts them in that socket |
| 21:18.29 | sorphin | MonMotha: right |
| 21:19.04 | T0mW | sigh, so nice the sourceforge is so un-dependable |
| 21:19.12 | sorphin | T0mW: duh |
| 21:27.24 | MonMotha | T0mW: you just noticed? |
| 21:27.29 | MonMotha | ever tried to use the TuxScreen wiki? |
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| 21:34.50 | MonMotha | and wtf is lirc ALWAYS so damn broken? |
| 21:34.58 | MonMotha | (that and why do all cable companies disable the serial ports_ |
| 21:35.56 | MonMotha | that and why do we still use the over complicated beast that is lirc just to IR blast crippled set top boxes? |
| 21:42.09 | fishhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.40 | jbevren | http://spamusement.com/index.php/comics/view/286 |
| 21:42.41 | jbevren | lol :) |
| 21:50.10 | CosmicPenguin | stupid glibc |
| 21:50.56 | T0mW | andersee: buildroot now has X.org X Window System, I am impressed |
| 21:51.08 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:51.24 | T0mW | sorphin: that thing is a bitch to build |
| 21:51.38 | T0mW | well, XFree86 was |
| 21:51.38 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:51.54 | sorphin | at home i dont' even run X anymore |
| 21:52.04 | sorphin | and at work, well, tis all solaris boxes |
| 21:52.06 | sorphin | so.. |
| 21:53.00 | CosmicPenguin | Xorg is still a bitch to buid |
| 21:53.05 | CosmicPenguin | we don't even build it very well in OE |
| 21:56.36 | T0mW | andersee: whoa! openVPN! |
| 21:56.37 | *** mode/#elinux [+v CosmicPenguin] by ChanServ |
| 21:56.58 | T0mW | all sorts of goodies in there |
| 22:00.27 | T0mW | slurp, sucking in sources from web for buildroot. heh |
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| 22:17.27 | sorphin | T0mW: trying to get a hold of a pro-43 in good shape is a pain :P |
| 22:17.59 | T0mW | pro-43 ? |
| 22:18.10 | sorphin | one of the better scanners radioshack had |
| 22:18.52 | T0mW | looks like there are mods for it |
| 22:19.10 | sorphin | yep |
| 22:19.24 | sorphin | cell mod, enhanced memory mod, better audio mod, remove the beep mod |
| 22:19.34 | sorphin | the coverage is why people liek it so much |
| 22:19.49 | T0mW | I just ordered a new LIon battery for my Yeasua HT |
| 22:19.50 | sorphin | granted it's old so it doesn't go into the 1ghz range |
| 22:20.04 | sorphin | but you can make it cover all of the low end |
| 22:20.15 | sorphin | and it cover the 2xxmhz range (military aircraft) |
| 22:20.20 | sorphin | covers even |
| 22:20.25 | T0mW | yeah, listen for a 6 meter opening |
| 22:20.46 | sorphin | T0mW: mods.dk |
| 22:20.50 | sorphin | seems to be a good resource |
| 22:20.58 | sorphin | even has stuff for the RS HT |
| 22:21.05 | sorphin | and well, lots of other radios/scanners |
| 22:21.15 | T0mW | sorphin: that is where I am no |
| 22:21.18 | T0mW | sorphin: that is where I am now |
| 22:21.21 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:21.21 | sorphin | k |
| 22:21.35 | T0mW | google just happened to hit it |
| 22:21.40 | T`2 | sorphin, radar scanner? |
| 22:21.53 | T0mW | I've got to buy some google stock |
| 22:22.08 | sorphin | T`2: eh? |
| 22:22.24 | T`2 | sorphin, pro-43 ? |
| 22:22.26 | sorphin | T`2: frequency scanner |
| 22:22.43 | sorphin | or if you're stupid and don't know there's more out there than police |
| 22:22.49 | sorphin | a "police scanner" |
| 22:22.56 | sorphin | T0mW: many years ago |
| 22:23.09 | T`2 | sorphin, well, i dont see any other use for such a thing than police :-) |
| 22:23.09 | sorphin | got stopped by a state guy (when i had my cutlass w/ antennae on it) |
| 22:23.19 | sorphin | he asked me if i was trying to keep track of police |
| 22:23.31 | T0mW | sorphin: btdt |
| 22:23.32 | sorphin | i nicely showed him my ham license |
| 22:24.00 | T0mW | sorphin: got a speeding ticket one night and he had me go through the frequencies programmed into the dual-band |
| 22:24.00 | sorphin | T`2: you're obviously not an amateur radio operator either |
| 22:24.06 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:24.07 | sorphin | cute |
| 22:24.08 | T`2 | nop |
| 22:24.16 | sorphin | T`2: there you have it then :P |
| 22:24.22 | T`2 | heh yea i guess |
| 22:24.34 | T0mW | sorphin: I had the 2 meter band turned off at the time so he couldn't see their frequencies or the Control Center |
| 22:25.07 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:25.12 | sorphin | why would their crap be in 2 meter? |
| 22:25.21 | T0mW | my ticket is up for renewal next november |
| 22:25.38 | T0mW | sorphin: 156mHz around here |
| 22:25.40 | CosmicPenguin | I think my frickin' system is broken - its taking way too long to compile glibc |
| 22:25.54 | T0mW | sorphin: the terrain sucks for 800mHz trunking |
| 22:26.27 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: stop playing with TuxRacer and free some MIPS |
| 22:27.09 | T0mW | sorphin: time to shower and get out of the house |
| 22:27.39 | sorphin | T0mW: cya |
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