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| 01:12.48 | Soopaman | hi |
| 01:12.54 | Soopaman | anyone awake/around? |
| 01:16.21 | Soopaman | anyone here with a mips device? |
| 01:17.25 | joe_bleau | I've got an Octane at the end of the desk... |
| 01:19.11 | dizzey | indigo2 for me |
| 01:19.23 | dizzey | not running yet :( |
| 01:19.57 | Soopaman | anyone have a static busy box compiled for their mips device? |
| 01:20.59 | dizzey | hmms arent there pretty big differcenses between the dirrent mips chips |
| 01:22.17 | Soopaman | not sure |
| 01:22.41 | dizzey | like r4000 r5000 r8000 r10000 |
| 01:22.51 | Soopaman | brecis |
| 01:23.22 | dizzey | but then my mipsbox dosent have a os yet |
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| 01:39.28 | Soopaman | is it possible to generate the values of a .conf file on the fly? |
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| 01:58.00 | MonMotha | if you compile the binary for an old MIPS, it should run on the newer ones. Just make sure you get the endienness right |
| 02:14.28 | Soopaman | don't have any env. up |
| 02:14.49 | Soopaman | hopeing to grab someone elses previous copy |
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| 05:45.19 | Russ | there goes that wibbling again |
| 05:53.43 | T0mW | Russ: an improvement, he is no longer whining |
| 05:54.23 | Russ | good I suppose |
| 05:54.32 | Russ | wonder if he is still using that cardboard laptop |
| 05:54.44 | file[laptop] | pfft |
| 05:54.47 | file[laptop] | I'm on a Powerbook |
| 05:55.30 | file[laptop] | contemplating an idea I had earlier, wondering if I can get bandwidth for it... |
| 05:57.08 | Russ | wazthat? |
| 05:57.58 | file[laptop] | live stream of a booth at a conference I'm attending |
| 05:58.18 | Russ | audio? |
| 05:58.25 | file[laptop] | full deal |
| 05:58.44 | Russ | do you have an intermediary machine? |
| 05:58.45 | file[laptop] | *should* have a DS3... so 45Mbps |
| 05:58.51 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 05:58.51 | Russ | ah, nm |
| 05:59.10 | file[laptop] | it's just the entire conference will be using that 45Mbps DS3, sooo it will get interesting |
| 05:59.22 | file[laptop] | but I can broadcast it to one of my nearby servers... like down the street from the conference center... which can relay it |
| 05:59.33 | Russ | right |
| 06:00.18 | Russ | gnomemeeting + a video conferencing gateway? |
| 06:00.32 | file[laptop] | haven't figured out the details yet |
| 06:00.41 | file[laptop] | but I'll be using a Mac plus an iSight lol |
| 06:03.51 | Russ | http://www.gnugk.org/ |
| 06:04.32 | file[laptop] | I've met the guy who wrote OpenH323 :) |
| 06:04.39 | Russ | just have him do it then |
| 06:06.51 | file[laptop] | what about videolan... |
| 06:09.04 | Russ | dunno, don't know much about vl |
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| 06:43.24 | andersee | TimRiker: evening |
| 06:44.52 | TimRiker | evening. just upgrading my pegasos and wondering if you still use yours. |
| 06:45.00 | TimRiker | running 2.6.15 on it now. |
| 06:47.21 | andersee | TimRiker: evening |
| 06:47.30 | andersee | TimRiker: sure do -- codepoet.org runs on it |
| 06:48.03 | andersee | I still have 2.6.14.5 on it though |
| 06:52.46 | TimRiker | I just upgraded to the 2.6.15 debian kernel. |
| 06:53.19 | TimRiker | I used to use th radeon xorg driver, but now it locks up on me. I'm using fbdev at the moment. |
| 06:54.59 | andersee | since I'm using it as a server I have it headless -- dont even have X running |
| 06:57.56 | Russ | ? |
| 06:58.14 | Russ | I have 2.6.15 and a ati 9000 |
| 06:58.21 | Russ | [drm] Loading R200 Microcode |
| 06:58.39 | Russ | I'm fine |
| 06:58.46 | TimRiker | Russ: this is a pegasos. ie: ppc. |
| 06:58.49 | Russ | o |
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| 07:29.36 | T` | any GNU make experts around? |
| 07:30.03 | T` | i got one Makefile work, but other not working (though i think they both are logically same.. ).. anyone wanna take a look please? |
| 07:30.24 | Russ | k |
| 07:30.33 | T` | hold.. uploading on pastebin |
| 07:34.40 | T` | the one which works, does compile jdatamemdst.c (the file i added), the other doesn't.. dunno why.. :( but it does try to link it as jdatamemdst.o, and complains that it can't find it!! |
| 07:35.06 | Russ | wtf |
| 07:35.08 | Russ | -O6 |
| 07:35.29 | T` | i was trying to make my old Makefile a bit more organized.. and i broke it |
| 07:35.37 | T` | yea.. its just what came with jpeg-mmx package |
| 07:35.54 | Russ | this isn't autogenerated? |
| 07:36.03 | T` | yes |
| 07:36.23 | T` | but i edited Makefile after its autogenerated |
| 07:37.35 | Russ | does one of these have unix newlines and the other dos? |
| 07:38.24 | T` | yea i think so |
| 07:38.49 | T` | the working one used to be used on cgywin, and it has dos format.. but works |
| 07:39.01 | T` | the other i created now in linux |
| 07:39.04 | Russ | so what doesn't work anyway |
| 07:39.06 | T` | s/other/non working one/ |
| 07:39.17 | T` | shutup ibot |
| 07:39.21 | T` | lol |
| 07:39.46 | T` | rm -f libjpeg-mmx.a |
| 07:39.46 | T` | ar rc libjpeg-mmx.a jcapimin.o jcapistd.o jctrans.o jcparam.o jdatadst.o jcinit.o jcmaster.o jcmarker.o jcmainct.o jcprepct.o jccoefct.o jccolor.o jcsample.o jchuff.o jcphuff.o jcdctmgr.o jfdctfst.o jfdctflt.o jfdctint.o fdct_mmx.o quant_mmx.o fdctdata.o jquant_x86simd.o cpu_accel.o jdatamemdst.o jdapimin.o jdapistd.o jdtrans.o jdatasrc.o jdmaster.o jdinput.o jdmarker.o jdhuff.o jdphuff.o jdmainct.o jdcoefct.o jdpostct.o jddctmgr.o jidctfst.o jidct |
| 07:39.46 | T` | flt.o jidctint.o jidctred.o jdsample.o jdcolor.o jquant1.o jquant2.o jdmerge.o jcomapi.o jutils.o jerror.o jmemmgr.o jmemnobs.o |
| 07:39.49 | T` | ar: jdatamemdst.o: No such file or directory |
| 07:39.51 | T` | make: *** [libjpeg-mmx.a] Error 1 |
| 07:40.00 | T` | it wont compile that jdatamemdst.c to get jdatamemdst.o i guess |
| 07:40.25 | Russ | -jdatamemdst.$(O): jdatamemdst.c jinclude.h jconfig.h jpeglib.h jmorecfg.h jerror.h |
| 07:40.34 | Russ | you took out the rule |
| 07:40.53 | Russ | oh wait you moved it |
| 07:41.01 | T` | ?? |
| 07:41.03 | T` | yea |
| 07:41.53 | Russ | - jdatadst.$(O) jdatamemdst.$(O) jcinit.$(O) jcmaster.$(O) jcmarker.$(O) jcmainct.$(O) \ |
| 07:41.53 | Russ | + jdatadst.$(O) jcinit.$(O) jcmaster.$(O) jcmarker.$(O) jcmainct.$(O) \ |
| 07:42.22 | Russ | +CLIBOBJECTS+=jdatamemdst.$(O) |
| 07:43.03 | T` | yea, i added it to that CLIBOBJECTS instead |
| 07:43.05 | T` | at the end |
| 07:43.12 | Russ | why |
| 07:43.19 | T` | so my changes are at the bottom |
| 07:43.32 | Russ | +jdatamemdst.$(O): jdatamemdst.c jinclude.h jconfig.h jpeglib.h jmorecfg.h jerror.h |
| 07:43.32 | Russ | +LIBSOURCES+=jdatamemdst.c |
| 07:43.33 | Russ | +CLIBOBJECTS+=jdatamemdst.$(O) |
| 07:43.36 | Russ | whats the point |
| 07:43.37 | T` | i guess it looks a bit more organized since its specific to my data module code |
| 07:47.08 | T` | also, adding the .c file to LIBSOURCES defined above isn't helping either |
| 07:47.39 | Russ | just leave it the way it was when it comes to the folllowing hunks |
| 07:47.48 | Russ | - jdatadst.c jdatamemdst.c jdatasrc.c jdcoefct.c jdcolor.c jddctmgr.c jdhuff.c \ |
| 07:47.48 | Russ | + jdatadst.c jdatasrc.c jdcoefct.c jdcolor.c jddctmgr.c jdhuff.c \ |
| 07:47.59 | Russ | - jdatadst.$(O) jdatamemdst.$(O) jcinit.$(O) jcmaster.$(O) jcmarker.$(O) jcmainct.$(O) \ |
| 07:48.00 | Russ | + jdatadst.$(O) jcinit.$(O) jcmaster.$(O) jcmarker.$(O) jcmainct.$(O) \ |
| 07:48.16 | Russ | -jdatamemdst.$(O): jdatamemdst.c jinclude.h jconfig.h jpeglib.h jmorecfg.h jerror.h |
| 07:48.21 | Russ | +jdatamemdst.$(O): jdatamemdst.c jinclude.h jconfig.h jpeglib.h jmorecfg.h jerror.h |
| 07:48.21 | Russ | +LIBSOURCES+=jdatamemdst.c |
| 07:48.21 | Russ | +CLIBOBJECTS+=jdatamemdst.$(O) |
| 07:49.08 | T` | uhm.. is your diff reversed? |
| 07:49.14 | T` | thats how i have it now.. |
| 07:49.38 | Russ | working->non working |
| 07:50.54 | T` | so you just want me to add remove the += lines and embed them with the others right? |
| 07:51.22 | Russ | thats the way it was in the original |
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| 07:53.32 | T` | Russ, but the original one was what i dont want to do... i would rather do it seperately for my module only as it is now |
| 07:53.37 | T` | (and non working :( |
| 07:55.12 | T` | ok cool this works: |
| 07:55.20 | T` | libjpeg-mmx.a: $(LIBOBJECTS) jdatamemdst.$(O) |
| 07:55.31 | T` | if i explicitly add it to that list, it works.. dunno why though .. hmm |
| 07:56.45 | T` | i did a LIBOBJECTS+= jdatamemdst.$(O), but that wont work.. |
| 07:56.56 | Russ | move it up higher |
| 07:57.51 | T` | i did.. i even put it on the first line |
| 07:58.01 | T` | LIBOBJECTS= jdatamemdst.$(O) |
| 07:58.09 | T` | then have that next chunk as a += |
| 07:58.26 | T` | but wont make determine all these variables first? is it sequential according to line order? |
| 08:00.05 | Russ | I'm confused |
| 08:00.11 | Russ | why are you treating jdatamemdst special |
| 08:00.12 | T` | hmm weird |
| 08:00.57 | T` | its a "module" in the code base.. i wrote it so the jpeg's uncompressed data is directly put into the frame buffer |
| 08:01.11 | T` | so if i want to disable it, i would just have to comment out things at the bottom or something like that |
| 08:01.16 | Russ | but, its in the original working makefile |
| 08:01.24 | T` | working makefile is also written by me :) |
| 08:01.27 | Russ | o |
| 08:01.45 | T` | its a modified working makefile from like a few months ago.. today i finally wanted to make it "clean" looking |
| 08:02.01 | Russ | then it should be a Makefile.am with a configure.ac |
| 08:03.22 | T` | uhh.. but jpeg-mmx.a is made in Makefile |
| 08:03.45 | T` | do you suggest i relink jpeg-mmx.a in Makefile.am ? |
| 08:03.58 | Russ | I don't really understand what is going on |
| 08:03.59 | T` | with my jdatamemdst.o that is |
| 08:04.08 | T` | lol.. what are you confused about? |
| 08:04.40 | Russ | a .a isn't really something you link |
| 08:04.43 | Russ | its an archive |
| 08:04.49 | Russ | you can just add a file |
| 08:05.44 | T` | aah right.. so i want my .o file also to be put into the archive |
| 08:07.37 | T` | LIBOBJECTS= $(CLIBOBJECTS) $(DLIBOBJECTS) $(COMOBJECTS) |
| 08:07.38 | T` | LIBOBJECTS+= jdatamemdst.$(O) |
| 08:07.39 | T` | doing that works |
| 08:07.50 | T` | but it doesn't like my adding to CLIBOBJECTS directly for some reason |
| 08:08.01 | T` | and that 2nd line should be right after.. can't be at the bottom |
| 08:10.14 | T` | ok.. i'll just move all my module info to the beginning.. that seems to wor |
| 08:10.14 | T` | work |
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| 13:13.44 | prpplague | hmm |
| 13:13.45 | prpplague | hmm |
| 13:14.01 | prpplague | anyone compile winblows apps on linux?' |
| 13:14.16 | T0mW | why |
| 13:14.56 | prpplague | T0mW: well..... |
| 13:15.11 | beeble | hehe, a long time ago i used a mingw tool |
| 13:15.34 | prpplague | T0mW: we use linux handhelds, i have linux client for connection , but i need to write a winblows client to do the same thing |
| 13:15.34 | beeble | but it was just a get mingw && make job |
| 13:16.27 | T0mW | prpplague: well, my solution to the little bit of work I along those lines is to write the apps in Kylix, then recompile with Delphi |
| 13:17.03 | prpplague | T0mW: hmm |
| 13:17.16 | prpplague | T0mW: doesn't that still require a winblows pc? |
| 13:17.18 | T0mW | I did at one time: #ifdef __BORLANDC__ and #ifdef __GNUC__ |
| 13:17.32 | T0mW | prpplague: yes, vmware |
| 13:17.38 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh |
| 13:18.06 | beeble | prpplague: you can "cross"compile with mingw |
| 13:18.27 | T0mW | you also have the #ifdef __WIN32__ and #ifdef __LINUX__ in delphi / kylix |
| 13:18.28 | beeble | or maybe you should consider to use some pythonfoo |
| 13:18.51 | T0mW | naw, then he has to get them to install Cygwin |
| 13:18.56 | prpplague | beeble: yea, i reading about cross-compiling for winblows |
| 13:19.33 | beeble | prpplague: if its just cli stuff. than it should be "easy" |
| 13:19.57 | T0mW | prpplague: downside with borland products is they orphen them after release |
| 13:20.07 | T0mW | s/orphan/abandon/ |
| 13:20.27 | T0mW | ~lart ibot for being stupid |
| 13:20.40 | T0mW | ibot: not me stupid, you |
| 13:22.23 | prpplague | hmm, linux journal has nice article on what i need to do |
| 13:22.57 | T0mW | prpplague: url? |
| 13:23.16 | prpplague | http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/7128/print |
| 13:24.45 | T0mW | phooey, wine |
| 13:24.59 | T0mW | I never got wine to do anything more than run notepad |
| 13:25.10 | prpplague | basically it covers min-gw |
| 13:25.17 | prpplague | looks like thats what i need |
| 13:50.50 | CP|Laptop | I just brought up wine the other day for the first time in a long time, and it was surprisingly different |
| 13:52.21 | CP|Laptop | in a good way |
| 13:58.29 | prpplague | i try to run all native apps |
| 13:58.45 | prpplague | haven't had much need for anything other than native stuff |
| 13:59.05 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: how goes it? |
| 13:59.44 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: donna's daughter's father lives there in colorado near you, hehe , he keeps asking if we could move there |
| 13:59.56 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: wouldn't that be funny |
| 14:00.13 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:00.25 | prpplague | chouimat: morning frenchy! |
| 14:00.48 | CP|Laptop | prpplague: come on up! |
| 14:01.12 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: not sure i could get used to all the snow |
| 14:01.22 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: but i could get used to the selection of beer |
| 14:01.41 | CP|Laptop | what snow? |
| 14:01.46 | CP|Laptop | it snows rarely on the front range |
| 14:01.49 | CP|Laptop | mainly windy |
| 14:01.53 | CP|Laptop | and cold |
| 14:01.56 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: really? |
| 14:02.05 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: i thought it snowed alot there |
| 14:11.22 | CP|Laptop | not not really |
| 14:12.03 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: ahh |
| 14:12.19 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: at least my electric bill would be really low |
| 14:13.32 | CP|Laptop | except in the summer |
| 14:13.50 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: why is that? |
| 14:13.53 | prpplague | CP|Laptop: get hot? |
| 14:15.26 | CP|Laptop | yeah |
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| 15:49.51 | CP|Laptop | ok - time to |
| 15:49.52 | CP|Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.57 | CP|Laptop | hit the road, jack |
| 15:50.02 | CP|Laptop | see you when I'm in the US again |
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| 17:28.14 | prpplague | anyone know what the max baud rate on the sa-1110 uarts is? |
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| 17:53.31 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: uart3 > 230kbps. uart2 > ~2Mbps. uart1 > ~3Mbps. uart0 > "mostly usb 1.1 compatible" |
| 17:54.20 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: chapter 11, sa1110.pdf |
| 17:56.22 | prpplague | GPSFan_: yea reading that now |
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| 18:25.34 | prpplague | GPSFan_: where do you see that the uart1 can have aorund 3Mbps? |
| 18:28.24 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: 11.9.4.1 |
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| 18:30.41 | prpplague | GPSFan_: are you getting that value based on the calculation? |
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| 18:48.06 | GPSFan_ | prpplague from the second sentence "A total of 4096 different baud rates can be selected, ranging form a minimum of 900Hz to 3.6864MHz." Or from the first equation with BRD=0, BaudRate= 3.6864x10^6/(0+1) |
| 18:51.42 | prpplague | GPSFan_: but from what i gather, when in uart mode its limited to the 230kbaud |
| 19:01.22 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: that may be true, I haven't looked at the different uart modes, just at the range of baud rate divisors. |
| 19:04.09 | GPSFan_ | prpplague: yeah, 11.9 says that in uart mode, uart 1 & uart 3 are identical. So I too will infer a 230kbaud limit. |
| 19:04.21 | prpplague | GPSFan_: yea i just tested |
| 19:04.33 | prpplague | GPSFan_: looks that way |
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| 20:03.57 | ico2 | how do i make the busybox syslogd output on tty10? |
| 20:06.27 | prpplague | ico2: is it currently outputing to a tty other than 10? |
| 20:08.31 | ico2 | no |
| 20:08.53 | ico2 | also, it is not getting kernel messages, should it? syslog on this suse install appears to |
| 20:09.05 | ico2 | can only send messages with logger |
| 20:09.55 | prpplague | ico2: is syslog even running on your device? |
| 20:10.29 | ico2 | yes |
| 20:10.42 | prpplague | and its logging to /var/log ? |
| 20:10.43 | ico2 | logread shows the messages i sent with logger |
| 20:11.04 | ico2 | prpplague: i tried loggin to /var/log/messages, and also with -C |
| 20:11.15 | prpplague | ico2: and? |
| 20:11.19 | ico2 | well |
| 20:11.23 | ico2 | i can get the messages |
| 20:11.31 | ico2 | but kernel messages arent in there |
| 20:11.43 | ico2 | i am not sure if they are supposed to be |
| 20:11.45 | prpplague | is klogd running? |
| 20:11.49 | ico2 | klogd? |
| 20:11.51 | ico2 | ah |
| 20:11.55 | prpplague | kernel logger |
| 20:11.55 | ico2 | that is what i am missing |
| 20:11.57 | ico2 | thanks |
| 20:12.01 | prpplague | np |
| 20:17.13 | ico2 | hmmm |
| 20:20.45 | ico2 | the busybox klogd does not seem to be very well documented |
| 20:20.48 | ico2 | how do i use it? |
| 20:21.19 | prpplague | should be just like normal klogd |
| 20:22.41 | ico2 | man page for normal klogd doesnt seem to be very helpful either, how do i use it? |
| 20:24.15 | prpplague | ico2: start off by just running it: klogd |
| 20:24.46 | ico2 | got that far |
| 20:24.57 | ico2 | where do i go to find the messages now? |
| 20:32.22 | prpplague | ico2: they are directed to syslogd |
| 20:32.33 | ico2 | ah |
| 20:32.41 | prpplague | ico2: so depending on your configuration for syslogd, depends on where they go |
| 20:33.47 | ico2 | ah |
| 20:33.50 | ico2 | fixed |
| 20:33.57 | ico2 | thanks very much prpplague |
| 20:35.53 | ZeZu | whats up prpplague |
| 20:36.12 | prpplague | ico2: np |
| 20:36.15 | prpplague | ZeZu: nada |
| 21:39.54 | T0mW | prpplague: good grief! |
| 21:41.20 | T0mW | prpplague: I just looked at that sample code for the MinGW, I did some of that cra^H^H^H type of coding many many years ago on Windows 3.x, I don't think you want to go there Dave. |
| 21:41.52 | T0mW | prpplague: That was the primary reason in my using Delphi |
| 21:42.53 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 21:43.24 | T0mW | bitblit, createDeviceComatibleContext, bleah |
| 21:44.30 | T0mW | prpplague: for me Kylix/Delphi works. But I also have a very strong Pascal background |
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