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| 14:47.03 | CosmicPenguin | ~quilt |
| 14:47.05 | ibot | quilt is probably http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/quilt/ |
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| 14:47.19 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: speak of the devil |
| 14:47.48 | mbuf | :o , it isn't Good Friday |
| 14:48.12 | CosmicPenguin | What was the URL to your quilt tutorial again? |
| 14:48.32 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/quilt-doc.pdf |
| 14:48.53 | mbuf | i did get some feedback from quilt-dev |
| 14:49.11 | CosmicPenguin | mbuf: I'm going to use that for our new developer training |
| 14:49.16 | CosmicPenguin | Is that cool with you? |
| 14:49.19 | mbuf | one needn't do a quilt-add every time, just doing quilt edit, adds the file to the the top most patch |
| 14:49.26 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, of course, i am releasing it under GNU FDL |
| 14:49.43 | mbuf | one Ashok Raj, from intel, suggested adding quilt mail also for an example |
| 14:50.14 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth had the idea of adding quilt commands to vi so if you start editing a file and forget to add it, you can do it from within VI |
| 14:50.16 | CosmicPenguin | thats a good idea |
| 15:05.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
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| 15:38.32 | mbuf | CosmicPenguin, i have added few references to quilt-doc, will release the complete .tex and source files with GNU FDL in few hours time - going out for dinner now |
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| 17:56.47 | kergoth_ | foo. |
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| 17:56.50 | kergoth_ | my server went boom |
| 17:58.23 | CosmicPenguin | ouch |
| 18:02.47 | prpplague | kergoth_: thats ok, i kp'd mine earlier tinkering with usb gadget |
| 18:04.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, my 2.4 kernel has so much "/* 2.6 compatibility */" comments, it might as well be 2.6 |
| 18:05.25 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 18:05.27 | CosmicPenguin | good for you |
| 18:05.34 | CosmicPenguin | you could use the #define KERNEL_VERSION stuff too |
| 18:07.29 | prpplague | this usb stuff always gives me problems |
| 18:07.45 | prpplague | feels too much like black magic |
| 18:08.12 | prpplague | can seem to get my mind to wrap around the api and stuff |
| 18:08.16 | prpplague | can't |
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| 18:18.03 | kergoth_ | prpplague: remote box, its in MN, and my dad doesnt know linux :\ |
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| 18:33.58 | prpplague | kergoth_: doh^2 |
| 18:34.13 | kergoth_ | so its down until i get my shit moved |
| 18:34.20 | prpplague | kergoth_: mine wasn't so bad, its in texas, but atleast someone knows linux there |
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| 19:36.02 | fishhead | mmm Coconut |
| 19:54.13 | MonMotha | prpplague: the kernel USB api or libusb? |
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| 19:57.09 | prpplague | MonMotha: usb gadget api |
| 19:57.22 | prpplague | MonMotha: brb, need to rebooooot |
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| 20:01.11 | prpplague | MonMotha: almost all of our new line products is suppose to use usb gadget stuff |
| 20:01.13 | prpplague | MonMotha: i've yet to make it work reliably |
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| 20:04.38 | fishhead | how was your coconut |
| 20:05.11 | prpplague | fishhead: good, just drink the water and eat the jelly |
| 20:05.27 | prpplague | fishhead: don't really like the "meat" as they call it |
| 20:05.51 | fishhead | I like the meat |
| 20:06.02 | fishhead | NO INSERTING GAY JOKES HERE |
| 20:06.08 | fishhead | i will beat you down with my bible |
| 20:06.45 | fishhead | prpplague did you get a chance to skim those sdio spec files yet |
| 20:09.08 | prpplague | fishhead: uh no d00d |
| 20:09.15 | prpplague | fishhead: i have something called a job |
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| 20:10.31 | fishhead | you don't sit on the crapper with a pda or laptop |
| 20:10.34 | fishhead | reading pdf spec filds |
| 20:10.36 | fishhead | files |
| 20:13.16 | prpplague | fishhead: not sure how that applied to having adhd |
| 20:13.24 | prpplague | s/applied/applies |
| 20:16.18 | fishhead | you never want to stop learning :) |
| 20:16.28 | fishhead | pdf files are like porn |
| 20:16.34 | fishhead | no I don't do that while reading them |
| 20:19.47 | prpplague | MonMotha: i seem to be having the same problem with three different cpu types |
| 20:20.07 | prpplague | MonMotha: i get interrupts when transmitting from a host controler to the udc |
| 20:20.34 | prpplague | MonMotha: udc to host never seems to have problem |
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| 20:23.51 | prpplague | TimRiker: timmmy!!!! |
| 20:24.23 | TimRiker | hacking on a motorola E680i linux cell phone. |
| 20:24.51 | TimRiker | lousy job with the os. some interesting DRM hooks. lots of fun having linux on a phone. |
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| 20:25.19 | TimRiker | qvga pxa sd/mmc vga-camera touchscreen. fun fun. |
| 20:25.33 | prpplague | TimRiker: cool |
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| 20:25.42 | TimRiker | gprs, bluetooth, usb client. |
| 20:25.49 | prpplague | TimRiker: where did ya pick that up? |
| 20:26.27 | TimRiker | ebay. where else? ;-) |
| 20:26.37 | TimRiker | like $300 including shipping. |
| 20:28.06 | TimRiker | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9707456822 |
| 20:29.37 | prpplague | cool |
| 20:29.43 | prpplague | found jtag points yet? heheheh |
| 20:29.52 | TimRiker | easy to telnet in as root over usb. no hardware hacking required. |
| 20:30.08 | prpplague | takes all the fun out of it |
| 20:30.08 | TimRiker | the factory reflash stuff got leaked, though I don't have it yet. |
| 20:30.30 | prpplague | TimRiker: coool |
| 20:30.34 | TimRiker | the drm has not been cracked yet that I know of. |
| 20:30.52 | prpplague | i wish i could find a practical technique for debugging this usb stuff |
| 20:31.03 | TimRiker | it mounts a cramfs partition with the drm keys, but the filesystem view is different than the rom dump. |
| 20:31.08 | prpplague | i feel like i'm throwing darks at CosmicPenguin in the dark |
| 20:31.21 | prpplague | TimRiker: interesting |
| 20:31.32 | prpplague | s/darks/darts |
| 20:31.46 | TimRiker | s/humor/annoyance/ |
| 20:31.58 | prpplague | TimRiker: hehe |
| 20:32.13 | prpplague | TimRiker: you going to OLS this year? |
| 20:32.16 | TimRiker | it's a lot of fun to hack on. |
| 20:32.30 | TimRiker | not decided. or rather, not found anyone to pay for it yet. |
| 20:32.41 | TimRiker | you? |
| 20:33.16 | prpplague | TimRiker: about 90% probably going |
| 20:33.35 | TimRiker | others here? ols this year? kergoth? ljp? andersee? CosmicPenguin? dsaxena_? etc? |
| 20:33.36 | prpplague | TimRiker: depends on how much my pr0n site makes before then, hehe |
| 20:33.46 | fishhead | man that had to be a cool point in electronics desin |
| 20:33.49 | prpplague | TimRiker: cosmo is going |
| 20:33.49 | fishhead | design even |
| 20:33.56 | fishhead | when some guy cameup with jtag |
| 20:33.59 | prpplague | TimRiker: sjhill is doing presentation |
| 20:34.17 | TimRiker | yeah? on what? |
| 20:34.20 | dsaxena_ | TimRiker: I am guessing yes |
| 20:34.24 | prpplague | fishhead: it was committee done, thats why its screwed up |
| 20:34.29 | prpplague | TimRiker: nptl |
| 20:34.35 | TimRiker | cool |
| 20:34.47 | prpplague | TimRiker: lots of good embedded stuff this year |
| 20:34.56 | prpplague | TimRiker: or atleast imho |
| 20:35.33 | fishhead | prpplague oh |
| 20:35.42 | fishhead | it's still than alternative |
| 20:35.47 | fishhead | "SON OF A BITCH" |
| 20:35.51 | prpplague | http://www.elinux.org/wiki/JTAG |
| 20:35.57 | fishhead | "NOW I GOTTA GET MY SOLDERING IRON AND (&#@$#@*&(#&*()$#&*(&*)(*&)(#*&)($#*&(#" |
| 20:36.07 | fishhead | THX |
| 20:36.14 | prpplague | fishhead: easy on the upper case, and language |
| 20:36.20 | TimRiker | hey. Biederman is speaking. |
| 20:36.55 | fishhead | prpplague yes sir |
| 20:37.48 | TimRiker | heh. olaf's nfs talk looks like a kick. now there's one I'd like to heckle. |
| 20:38.28 | prpplague | TimRiker: hehe, i want to heckle sjhill's |
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| 20:38.50 | TimRiker | well, that too. ;-) |
| 20:39.39 | prpplague | TimRiker: "mr.hill why are you talking about these here POSIX stuff, isn't this suppose to be about Network Time??" |
| 20:40.16 | fishhead | hehe |
| 20:40.16 | andersee | TimRiker: howdy |
| 20:41.22 | fishhead | pci and agp memory space are inside the cpu's address space right? |
| 20:41.25 | fishhead | or is it seperate |
| 20:43.20 | prpplague | TimRiker: btw, how much bandwidth are we needing for elinux.org? |
| 20:44.02 | TimRiker | prpplague: dunno. check the graphs on sf. |
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| 20:44.47 | prpplague | TimRiker: might set me up a small box at the house |
| 20:45.01 | prpplague | TimRiker: the local telco is offering a special for folks wanting to do static ips |
| 20:46.31 | TimRiker | I've got a static here. I could just get my butt in gear and move it. I've got a block of 8 addresses. |
| 20:46.41 | prpplague | TimRiker: ahh |
| 20:46.50 | TimRiker | so I can do fun things like: http://p2.rikers.org/cgi-bin/changer.cgi |
| 20:47.28 | andersee | TimRiker: manage to get that raq working? |
| 20:47.47 | TimRiker | andersee: yep. that's p2. ;-) |
| 20:47.53 | andersee | :-) |
| 20:47.56 | prpplague | TimRiker: cute |
| 20:48.07 | fishhead | hey TimRiker |
| 20:48.09 | fishhead | NICE RAQ |
| 20:48.10 | TimRiker | but it's not yet running the newest kernel. |
| 20:48.54 | andersee | TimRiker: get with the program... geez. They released 2.6.16.2 this morning and you _STILL_ havnt upgraded! |
| 20:48.57 | andersee | geez |
| 20:49.23 | andersee | :-) |
| 20:49.41 | TimRiker | heh |
| 20:52.10 | TimRiker | so did anyone move tapes around? ;-) |
| 20:53.28 | prpplague | hehe, thought about it |
| 20:55.57 | TimRiker | feel free. No webcam yet though. |
| 20:56.08 | file | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:01.25 | TimRiker | prpplague just left. ah well. I invited some folks from #openezx in. they are hacking on the motorola linux phones like the one I just picked up. |
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| 21:02.02 | TimRiker | andersee: so are you headed to ols this year? |
| 21:02.23 | stefan_schmidt | TimRiker: hello |
| 21:02.28 | TimRiker | looks like my family trip to NY is planned to overlap. not sure if it's carved in stone yet. |
| 21:03.20 | TimRiker | looks like the usual richness of presentations. |
| 21:03.49 | stefan_schmidt | ols = Otawa linux symposium? |
| 21:04.21 | file | destroy family! |
| 21:04.25 | file | destroy(family); |
| 21:04.32 | TimRiker | ~lart file |
| 21:05.09 | andersee | TimRiker: would love to, but not currently planning on it... |
| 21:05.19 | TimRiker | andersee: you should pick up one of these cells. :) |
| 21:05.28 | andersee | cells? |
| 21:05.29 | fishhead | hey mr riker |
| 21:05.32 | fishhead | or anyone else |
| 21:05.37 | fishhead | know of a good channel for m68k hacking |
| 21:05.42 | fishhead | speicfically dragonball |
| 21:05.58 | TimRiker | andersee: I bought a couple: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9707456822 |
| 21:06.12 | fishhead | i got my terry schivao edition palm still on life support and I refuse to let it die |
| 21:06.22 | fishhead | IIIxe |
| 21:06.36 | TimRiker | fishhead: just here and #uclibc. dunno if there is a uclinux one someplace. |
| 21:06.44 | fishhead | ok thx |
| 21:06.50 | andersee | TimRiker: hmm, running linux and hackable? |
| 21:06.53 | fishhead | I just need an idiot's guide to serial bootstrapping |
| 21:07.06 | TimRiker | andersee: you can get a root shell easily. |
| 21:07.24 | TimRiker | andersee: still have some drm to work around. |
| 21:07.43 | stefan_schmidt | TimRiker: a780 is also nice. build in gps |
| 21:07.51 | TimRiker | I've not burned custom firmware or anything, but you can put linux apps on the SD card and run them as root or otherwise. |
| 21:08.12 | TimRiker | stefan_schmidt: true true. does google-local support the gps in there? |
| 21:08.33 | stefan_schmidt | don't know. |
| 21:08.41 | andersee | TimRiker: from a shell can you ssh out to check your mail or admin a box while out camping? |
| 21:08.44 | stefan_schmidt | does google local works in germany? |
| 21:09.56 | andersee | TimRiker: if it included net access and I could ssh from anywhere I'd buy one in a heatbeat |
| 21:10.20 | TimRiker | andersee: both work. |
| 21:10.35 | TimRiker | andersee: and with bluetooth on your laptop you get net access from there too. |
| 21:10.40 | TimRiker | or over usb. |
| 21:11.13 | andersee | must resist.... |
| 21:11.15 | TimRiker | andersee: drop by and play with one if you like. |
| 21:11.52 | TimRiker | stefan_schmidt: maps and satelite for germany work. |
| 21:11.55 | andersee | TimRiker: approximate monthly service cost? |
| 21:12.38 | TimRiker | andersee: I'm still on my blackberry 300 minute + unlimited data. $45 or something like that? |
| 21:12.46 | TimRiker | probably cheaper plans around. |
| 21:12.47 | stefan_schmidt | TimRiker: what is needed for google-local support? |
| 21:13.09 | TimRiker | course adding a VoIP app could mean that a data only plan would be possible. |
| 21:13.19 | TimRiker | stefan_schmidt: it's just a midp java app. |
| 21:13.36 | stefan_schmidt | oh, don't know about java. :) |
| 21:13.50 | stefan_schmidt | we are working on gpsd support. |
| 21:13.55 | andersee | TimRiker: how hackable? |
| 21:14.14 | andersee | TimRiker: will it let you run code off SD? |
| 21:14.17 | TimRiker | stefan_schmidt: http://www.google.com/glm/ on your phone. |
| 21:14.27 | andersee | TimRiker: java only? |
| 21:14.39 | TimRiker | andersee: yes. no *nix filesystem, but vfat has execute permissions. |
| 21:14.46 | TimRiker | andersee: no. java too. |
| 21:14.58 | TimRiker | the sdk for the gui is not yet in the wild that I know of. |
| 21:15.15 | TimRiker | folks have just recently gotten a compiled kernel up. /me pokes stefan_schmidt |
| 21:15.30 | TimRiker | but motorola released the blob and kernel sources just recently. |
| 21:16.29 | stefan_schmidt | today i patched the kernel and could see kernel messages. |
| 21:16.32 | TimRiker | it's glibc and no busybox. (/me gags) typical MV 3.0 crap. /me tries to poke dsaxena |
| 21:16.59 | TimRiker | stefan_schmidt: sweet. where? display? or usb? |
| 21:16.59 | stefan_schmidt | motorola only resized the linux logo up to 320x240 |
| 21:17.04 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 21:17.06 | stefan_schmidt | display. |
| 21:17.13 | TimRiker | 4x6 font? |
| 21:17.21 | stefan_schmidt | will shot a photo soon. let you know. |
| 21:17.47 | stefan_schmidt | i'am not sure about the font, but you can read it. |
| 21:17.53 | andersee | TimRiker: well of course mv continues to push glibc, non-busybox stuff. More consulting opportunities... |
| 21:18.34 | TimRiker | andersee: well, it is motorola, but it's china mobilesoft you would likey have to talk too. |
| 21:18.38 | andersee | TimRiker: "the target image doesnt fit in flash? Be glad to fix it for a mere $5 million more..." |
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| 21:18.49 | TimRiker | andersee: :) |
| 21:26.54 | TimRiker | stefan_schmidt: germany highways are there, and names, but not down to the street where I'm looking. great country wide and area map though. |
| 21:28.35 | TimRiker | it'll find erlangen by searching, and shows E50, A73 and quite a few other roads, but the town name is not there. (it's a small town anyway) |
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| 22:09.19 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: heh yeah, I'll be at OLS |
| 22:12.33 | stefan_schmidt | promised a photo from bootup without overlaped logo. |
| 22:12.36 | stefan_schmidt | http://www.datenfreihafen.org/~stefan/EZX/photos/a780-kernel-messages.jpg |
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| 22:27.57 | CosmicPenguin | stefan_schmidt: purty |
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