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00:28.32kergothCosmicPenguin: i'm thinking some sort of QUILTPATH variable might be useful.  keep the series file local, but have the patch pool be available for all
00:28.44kergoths/pool/pools/
00:30.01CosmicPenguinso QUILTPATH would be used to mangle the paths that quilt looks down?
00:33.43kergothi'm thinking like.. export QUILTPATH=./patches:~/kernelpatches
00:34.08kergothor something
00:34.26kergothjust found myself annoyed at copying patch trees all over the place today
00:34.37kergoths/trees/series/
00:50.04CosmicPenguinYeah, I think that might be something worthwhile
00:51.01CosmicPenguinThat would actually be nicer for our development
00:51.28CosmicPenguinright now we store our series/patches in rcs in a directory .../patches/linux-2.6.16/
00:51.49CosmicPenguinand then when we develop, we extract linux-2.6.16, and symlink patches to the repository
00:51.53CosmicPenguindirectory
00:52.05CosmicPenguinit would be nicer to have the repository directory, and just define it in QUILTPATH instead
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11:40.57Gerrathit seems like build-root and Openembedded are very simular and that Openembedded is very new and in early development.  Which one is better for putting a simple distro together (no graphics, no OPIE)?
11:49.40CroftonI would say OE
11:49.50Croftonothers here will say buildroot :)
11:52.37GerrathIs there a good site for documentation on OE?  The openembedded site seems to not have any documentation written yet other than the wiki.
11:55.21Croftonheh
11:55.30Croftonask in #oe
11:55.46CroftonI'm thinnking there are some slides somewhere
11:55.59Croftonbut OE is hard to get started with
11:56.06Croftonwhat are you trying to do?
12:14.52GerrathI have several patches for the kernel (modules for hardware) that I want to apply.
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14:03.47CosmicPenguinOh yeah?
14:03.51CosmicPenguinCome over here and say that
14:11.07prpplague~lart CosmicPenguin
14:11.13prpplaguehehehe
14:11.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: so far, i hate 2.6 hehe
14:12.02CosmicPenguinyou shouldn't hate soembody because they are different
14:13.05sjhilloh yes you should
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14:51.43CosmicPenguinI have a goal of getting under 300 messages in my inbox by the end of the day
14:52.23prpplaguehehe
14:52.36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: gonna crash the pop server to prevent it?
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14:59.46CosmicPenguinsigh
14:59.49CosmicPenguinusb keys are so annoying sometimes
14:59.54CosmicPenguinif they weren't so damn convinenent
15:00.00CosmicPenguin~spell convinenent
15:00.11CosmicPenguinyeah, the second one
15:04.05CosmicPenguinThis one is a Lexar jump drive
15:04.33prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ahh
15:04.44prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe, almost done with my keyboard port
15:04.45CosmicPenguindang it
15:05.23CosmicPenguinwhy isn't this bastard showing up in the /sys/blocks/ directory?????
15:20.33CosmicPenguinI don't want to put a shell on the initrd
15:20.42CosmicPenguinOE isn't good at that at all
15:23.34tux1800Hi all, is there a cmdline tool for reading/writing cpu register at run time?
15:23.35CosmicPenguinok - time to learn how mass storage works once and for all
15:24.06CosmicPenguintux1800: morning
15:24.11CosmicPenguintux1800: you mean on the Alchemy?
15:25.55sjhilltux1800: yes, that cmd is an alias for 'cat /dev/null > /proc/kcore'
15:27.26CosmicPenguinwow - thats almost pure evil
15:27.31CosmicPenguincontragulations
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15:29.12tux1800CosmicPenguin, yes au1200
15:30.37CosmicPenguinWell, if the register is memory mapped, use /proc/mem or /proc/kmem
15:31.46tux1800sjhill, i'll explore this evil thing
15:37.01prpplagueCosmicPenguin: argh still having trouble with the input structure
15:37.16prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i get my scancodes, just not sure how to get them handled
15:37.30CosmicPenguinI'm down to 477
15:37.31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: with 2.4 i just used handle_scancode
15:37.32CosmicPenguinyay!
15:42.06prpplaguehehe, they need a keyboard skel
15:45.34prpplagueCosmicPenguin: ???
15:45.42prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i thought you said you had done one ?
15:49.17CosmicPenguinnot keyboard
15:50.11prpplaguehmm
15:50.38CosmicPenguinwere you counting on me?
15:50.48CosmicPenguinsorry for letting you down... :)
15:51.44prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
15:51.46prpplagueCosmicPenguin: np
15:51.57prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i think i can get it, just gonna take some hacking
15:52.06prpplagueCosmicPenguin: don't like how complicated this has become
15:53.15sjhillso is anyone doing mythtv with the au1200 yet?
15:54.15CosmicPenguinnot yet
15:54.17CosmicPenguinwanna be the first
15:54.18CosmicPenguin?
15:55.11prpplagueCosmicPenguin: and as usual, documentation for this sucks
15:55.25CosmicPenguinprpplague: we wouldn't be highly paid and respected engineers if this was easy
16:01.47prpplagueCosmicPenguin: yea, well, i'm under the gun on this one
16:01.56prpplagueCosmicPenguin: heavy stress
16:02.18prpplagueCosmicPenguin: basically i've had to do 3 weeks worth of work in 5 days :(
16:02.31prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i'm totally worn out
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16:12.54prpplagueCosmicPenguin: man this is way more complicated that before with 2.4
16:22.45tuxmaniacprpplague: Seems you are busy!! But I would like to know some of the Embedded Development boards that are available to start learning embedded linux and become an expert ;) Pretty economical ones as I will be doing this at HOME:D
16:23.48hvrCosmicPenguin: ...people actually get (highly) payed and respected for that stuff? :)
16:23.54CosmicPenguinapparently
16:47.43prpplaguei have scancode, i just want to shove it into the tty input
16:48.07prpplaguedon't know why they had to get rid of handle_scancode
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17:55.29kergothprpplague: just stop whining and write an input device.  the input layer is a huge improvement over the pile of crap they called console handling in 2.4.
17:55.41kergothprpplague: using the input layer is a breeze
17:56.40prpplaguekergoth: hehe, i am writing one, but i disagree about it being a breeze
17:57.56kergothyou're welcome to, but its clean and well architected, and pushing keys up is no more difficult than  handle_scancode.
17:58.06kergothi suggest you learn more about it before commenting further
17:58.27prpplaguekergoth: hehe
17:58.37prpplaguekergoth: its the init portion that is a pain
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19:29.27prpplaguekergoth: what exactly is the purpose of the keybit in the input core stuff?
19:43.00kergothCosmicPenguin: fyi, new version of the perforce vim plugin is out, with vim7 compatibility fixes
19:43.26kergothprpplague: i'd have to look at the code, my memory is useless without a trigger
19:43.42prpplaguekergoth: hehe, thanks anyway, found some notes
19:44.47kergothdamn, 2.6.16 is up to a 14th micro version now? 2.6.16.14?  crazy
19:46.03chouimatQ. What's the difference between your paycheck and your cock?
19:46.05chouimatA. You don't have to beg your wife to blow your paycheck!
19:48.49kergothhehe. thats funny. watch the language though, methinks tim wouldnt be happy about that being in here :)
19:49.03chouimatkergoth: :)
19:57.07chouimatkergoth:  http://www.dusky.sk/pics/2006-04/2182_Google_in_20_years.jpg
20:01.56prpplaguechouimat: cute
20:02.08prpplaguekergoth: hehe all done
20:16.30CosmicPenguinkergoth: sweet!
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20:42.57CosmicPenguinThis better work, or I will be angry
20:46.51CosmicPenguindisappointed!
20:48.33kergothhm?
20:50.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: hehe
20:57.06CosmicPenguinWho is it, the bad guy from The Fith Element that says that?
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21:36.12silasI'm having problems trying to get my buildroot to compile with the lastest snapshot
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22:21.13silasn/m fixed it
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22:24.03prpplagueho diddy ho ho
22:25.04prpplague~lart kergoth for being snobbish about the 2.6 input layer
22:25.25CosmicPenguindude
22:25.26CosmicPenguinlet it go
22:25.37prpplaguehehe
22:25.44prpplagueCosmicPenguin: just kidding
22:25.50prpplagueCosmicPenguin: got it done
22:26.36prpplagueCosmicPenguin: found a good linux journal article that helped
22:29.28prpplagueCosmicPenguin: starting on 2.6 thursday evening, done today
22:29.45prpplagueCosmicPenguin: i expected it to take atleast till friday
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