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15:40.16sjhillokay, is there anyway to use a telnet daemon that does NOT require legacy PTY (/dev/pts) support?
15:41.03pb___er, /dev/pts is Unix98 pty
15:41.10pb___which one did you mean?
15:41.24sjhillif i disable legacty PTY support in my kernel
15:41.30sjhilltelnet no longer works
15:41.37pb___right, that's /dev/ttyp*, not /dev/pts
15:41.53sjhillnetkit-telnet does not work
15:41.59sjhillmaybe i need to compile it differently
15:44.06pb___looking at the sources I have here (0.17), it just seems to be using openpty() which should work fine.
15:44.39pb___presumably other programs that use ptys do work, right?  that is, you do have unix98 ptys enabled and correctly set up?
15:45.16sjhillyes
15:45.20sjhilli see what i did
15:45.27sjhilli misunderstood the Kconfig text
15:45.39sjhilli still have to mount the /dev/pts filesystem
15:45.44pb___right
15:45.50sjhillsilly me
15:46.15pb___for unix98 ptys, you need /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts mounted
15:46.16sjhillpb___: thx for sanity check
15:46.21sjhill?
15:46.27sjhilli'm doing nothing with /dev/ptmx
15:46.43sjhilleven on Ubuntu, i only see devpts
15:46.44pb___it's just a device node, you don't need to do anything other than make sure it exists
15:46.45sjhillnothing with ptmx
15:46.49sjhilloh oh
15:46.50sjhillk
15:47.19pb___sorry, I worded that badly.  I meant "you need /dev/ptmx, and you need to have /dev/pts mounted", not that /dev/ptmx needed to be mounted as well.  doh.
15:48.11pb___but, to be honest, if you're on an embedded system and you only need a handful of ptys, you might be better off going the other way: turn on legacy bsd ptys and disable the Unix98 stuff.
15:48.33pb___unix98 is better if you need lots and lots of connections but I'm guessing that probably isn't the case for you.
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15:53.12sjhillhmm
15:53.16sjhillsomething to consider indded
15:53.17sjhillthx
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15:54.06microwhi all
15:58.21sjhillpb___: so if i just use legacy PTY, then i don't need /dev/pts or the devpts filesystem, right?
15:58.34sjhillpb___: if i chop UNIX98 support
15:59.00pb___right
15:59.38pb___you just need enough /dev/ttyp* and /dev/pty* nodes for the number of concurrent connections you want to support.
16:00.52sjhilli think i'll set max of 4 in the kernel config
16:00.57sjhillthat should be plenty
16:01.04sjhilland then i just need 0-3 of the devices
16:01.06pb___right
16:01.08sjhillworks for me
16:12.18microwhi all
16:13.05microwi am developing an voip softphone on an embedded linux on an arm chip, any good reference??
16:13.57microwthere is lots of open source softphone(sip client with audio and video), but i have no idea which is good or bad?
16:14.41pb___sadly, as far as I can tell, most/all of them are bad
16:14.55pb___good luck :-)
16:15.31microwph___: what do you mean <bad>?
16:15.52pb___the same as you, I suspect.
16:15.57pb___i.e. that they don't seem to work very well
16:17.02microwwell, i only tried xlite, it works well, but it is not open source, and it is not run on embedded linux
16:24.56microwanyone have any idea for soft sip phone on an embedded linux (arm chip) solutions?
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16:51.00microwhello
16:57.19microwanyone want to kill time by talking about compiling linux, qt , touchscreen speaker microphone driver ,or GUI solutions ??
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