| 00:01.28 | *** join/#elive sdfsfsdf (~badblody@78.Red-80-34-39.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:19.22 | GeeSeCillo | sinplomo, tu sabias de ingles correctamente no? |
| 00:20.16 | GeeSeCillo | ;S |
| 00:21.09 | sinpB | bueno, sé inglés |
| 00:21.16 | sinpB | pero no creo que sea para tanto XDD |
| 00:22.59 | Thanatermesis | sinpB, y ese nick ? |
| 00:23.03 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 00:23.16 | GeeSeCillo | sinpB, como se dice broma pesada |
| 00:23.23 | Thanatermesis | GeeSeCillo, da igual, hace 5 dias que le pido la traduccion de make-deb al ingles y aun no se a puesto |
| 00:23.24 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 00:24.14 | sinpB | joke es borma |
| 00:24.15 | sinpB | broma |
| 00:24.16 | GeeSeCillo | nose si enviarles un mail a los de los dominios |
| 00:24.20 | GeeSeCillo | si eso si lo se |
| 00:24.24 | sinpB | shitting joke es una broma de mierda |
| 00:24.45 | sinpB | fucking jode, es una puta broma |
| 00:24.46 | sinpB | XD |
| 00:24.53 | GeeSeCillo | va dejalo xD |
| 00:25.45 | sinpB | lo que pasa es que los anglosajones no tiene el concepto de broma pesada |
| 00:25.46 | sinpB | XD |
| 00:25.48 | GeeSeCillo | va es mas facil defacearle el dominio |
| 00:25.52 | GeeSeCillo | paso de escribirles un mail |
| 00:26.38 | sinpB | GeeSeCillo, los anglosajones no tienen ese concepto |
| 00:26.42 | sinpB | diles bad joke |
| 00:26.44 | sinpB | o algo asi |
| 00:26.51 | GeeSeCillo | da igual |
| 00:26.59 | sinpB | vas a defacearle el dominio ? |
| 00:27.06 | GeeSeCillo | si |
| 00:27.10 | sinpB | joder |
| 00:27.18 | sinpB | GeeSeCillo, haznos un video |
| 00:27.19 | sinpB | XDD |
| 00:27.36 | GeeSeCillo | pues si funcionase los scripts de Thanatermesis ... |
| 00:27.38 | GeeSeCillo | pues mira |
| 00:27.38 | GeeSeCillo | xD |
| 00:27.52 | sinpB | GeeSeCillo, usa xvidcap y pasa de las cosas de Thanatermesis |
| 00:27.57 | sinpB | jisjisjisjis |
| 00:28.54 | sinpB | GeeSeCillo, a ver ... |
| 00:28.58 | sinpB | eso no se puede perder |
| 00:28.59 | sinpB | XD |
| 00:29.06 | sinpB | Thanatermesis, arrgla tu script joder |
| 00:29.34 | Thanatermesis | mis scripts / paquetes son para Elive |
| 00:29.35 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 00:29.42 | Thanatermesis | alli seran 100x100 compatibles xD |
| 00:29.49 | GeeSeCillo | juaz |
| 00:30.11 | GeeSeCillo | necesito una conexion segura |
| 00:30.15 | GeeSeCillo | alguien me la deja? XD |
| 00:31.40 | sinpB | usa un proxy |
| 00:31.54 | GeeSeCillo | son una mierda |
| 00:31.57 | GeeSeCillo | ademas logean |
| 00:33.04 | Thanatermesis | por cierto, de que conocia ese tio este canal ? |
| 00:33.14 | Thanatermesis | supongo que habra leido algo en los foros... |
| 00:33.24 | GeeSeCillo | de hacerme un whois |
| 00:34.36 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (2k4ctf-j5B@pcp08014795pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:34.36 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 00:36.02 | Elive_user | my keys are maped oddly. ?o |
| 00:36.26 | Elive_user | the ??? is suppsed to be a colon |
| 00:36.45 | GeeSeCillo | ahora vuelvo |
| 00:38.22 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user, what version ? |
| 00:41.07 | sinpB | Thanatermesis, wich joder |
| 00:41.08 | sinpB | XD |
| 00:44.35 | sinpB | Thanatermesis, como llaman los yankies un paquete |
| 00:44.44 | sinpB | refiriendose a los de debian |
| 00:45.33 | sinpB | package |
| 00:45.34 | sinpB | XD |
| 00:45.35 | sinpB | se me fue |
| 00:47.02 | sinpB | Thanatermesis, estoy traduciendo el make-deb |
| 00:56.42 | *** join/#elive Thanatermesis_ (~Enlighten@32.195-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 00:57.48 | Thanatermesis | se me murio el IRC |
| 00:57.50 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:09.09 | Thanatermesis | apt, que hacemos hoy ? |
| 01:09.09 | apt | que hacemos hoy is probably like, enviarle un mail al developer de e16 con los bugs reportados de sinplomo y separar los themes de evidence... sinplomo hoy hara las traducciones de make-deb y incluir memtest a Elive |
| 01:09.30 | Thanatermesis | vamos a por evidence... |
| 01:10.54 | *** join/#elive sinplomo (~sinplomo@196.206.68.189) |
| 01:11.23 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, que tal va la traduccion ? |
| 01:11.52 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, porque no me pilla ping www.google.es | sleep 5 && killall ping |
| 01:12.04 | Thanatermesis | || |
| 01:12.18 | Thanatermesis | eso no tiene ningun sentido sinplomo |
| 01:12.35 | Thanatermesis | pinguea, si no funciona, despues de 5 segundos mata el ping que ya esta terminado? o_O |
| 01:12.37 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:13.32 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, pero en teoria |
| 01:13.42 | sinplomo | deberia de mostrar que esta pingueando |
| 01:13.53 | sinplomo | y morirse el procesto en 5 seg |
| 01:13.54 | sinplomo | o no ? |
| 01:15.03 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 01:15.07 | Thanatermesis | lee bien lo que e escrito |
| 01:15.14 | Thanatermesis | ESO es lo que hace tu comando |
| 01:15.20 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, Y LO SE |
| 01:15.27 | Thanatermesis | entonces ? |
| 01:15.29 | sinplomo | lo que no se esporque no me muesta la salida de ping |
| 01:15.42 | Thanatermesis | || |
| 01:15.46 | Thanatermesis | || |
| 01:15.47 | Thanatermesis | no | |
| 01:15.51 | Thanatermesis | | es una tuberia |
| 01:15.52 | sinplomo | vale |
| 01:15.57 | sinplomo | que es eso ? |
| 01:15.57 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:16.01 | Thanatermesis | el resultado del ping es mandado a sleep |
| 01:16.03 | Thanatermesis | asi que... :/ |
| 01:16.20 | Thanatermesis | no sabes lo que es una tuberia !?!?!? juas |
| 01:16.38 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, prueba esto: |
| 01:17.20 | Thanatermesis | gzip cancion.mp3 && cat cancion.mp3.gz | gzip -d | mpg123 - |
| 01:17.24 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, joder, tio, yo no tengo tus conocimients, no te reias de mi :P |
| 01:17.31 | Thanatermesis | asi entenderas lo que es una tuberia ;) |
| 01:17.54 | Thanatermesis | no me rio de ti... pero es que si conocieras el poder de las tuberias fliparias xD |
| 01:18.07 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, okis, ahora con || no kill |
| 01:18.08 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:18.18 | Thanatermesis | eso comprime en compresion ZIP un mp3 |
| 01:18.22 | Thanatermesis | luego lo lanza con CAT |
| 01:18.45 | Thanatermesis | pero en vez de mostrar todo el codigo raro del mp3 y encima modificado por la compresion |
| 01:18.48 | Thanatermesis | lo que hace es |
| 01:19.09 | Thanatermesis | enviarlo hacia gzip -d que lo descomprime y eso lo envia a un reproductor de mp3 ;) |
| 01:19.14 | Thanatermesis | es un buen ejemplo, no sinplomo ? |
| 01:19.56 | sinplomo | oksi |
| 01:20.08 | sinplomo | comprime y luego la desomprime y la envia al reproducort |
| 01:20.09 | sinplomo | xD |
| 01:20.16 | Thanatermesis | no has entendido nada |
| 01:20.19 | Thanatermesis | bueno, algo |
| 01:20.19 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:20.22 | sinplomo | espera |
| 01:20.28 | Thanatermesis | cat lo enviaria al dispositivo de salida estandar |
| 01:20.32 | sinplomo | comprime el mp3 |
| 01:20.32 | Thanatermesis | cual es ese ? tu pantalla |
| 01:20.36 | sinplomo | cat lo envia a gzip |
| 01:20.37 | Thanatermesis | te haria un flood |
| 01:20.50 | sinplomo | este lo descomprime |
| 01:20.57 | sinplomo | y lo reproduce |
| 01:20.57 | sinplomo | no ? |
| 01:21.07 | Thanatermesis | pero como le pones una tuberia, en vez de enviartelo por la pantalla lo envia a un programa que reproduciria en codigo mp3 lo que le entra desde el otro lado de la tuberia |
| 01:21.12 | Thanatermesis | es simple no? ;) |
| 01:21.36 | Thanatermesis | pero como esta comprimido, una tercera tuberia entre estos 2 lo descomprime antes de reproducirlo |
| 01:21.40 | sinplomo | si, pero con || no kill-ea el ping XDDDDDD |
| 01:21.48 | Thanatermesis | ¬¬ |
| 01:22.09 | Thanatermesis | yo explicandote una de las mejores y mas potentes cosas de bash y tu preocupao por tu script... |
| 01:22.22 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, lo hice para fastidiarte |
| 01:22.24 | sinplomo | XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 01:22.30 | sinplomo | sabia que reaccionarias asi |
| 01:22.37 | sinplomo | me estoy partiendo el culo de risa |
| 01:22.39 | sinplomo | XDD |
| 01:22.46 | Thanatermesis | find $paquete -type f -o -type l | cut -d/ -f4- | sed /^$/d | sed 's/DEBIAN.*//g' | sed /^$/d | gzip > /tmp/.make-deb_checkfiles.gz |
| 01:22.47 | Thanatermesis | veamos |
| 01:22.52 | Thanatermesis | dime que haria eso con las tuberias |
| 01:22.52 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:22.58 | Thanatermesis | es un trozo de codigo de make-deb |
| 01:23.14 | sinplomo | ni zorra |
| 01:23.16 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:23.30 | Thanatermesis | mira, te lo explico |
| 01:23.37 | sinplomo | te puedo expicar un poco coma va la historia del arabe para poner las vocales |
| 01:23.46 | sinplomo | y te pego un trozo de peridico |
| 01:23.48 | sinplomo | sin vocales |
| 01:23.51 | sinplomo | y a ponerlas tu |
| 01:23.58 | sinplomo | aunque te lo explique asi rapdiamente |
| 01:24.00 | sinplomo | no podras |
| 01:24.01 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:24.28 | Thanatermesis | busca en el directorio $paquete todos los ficheros y links simbolicos |
| 01:24.35 | Thanatermesis | el resultado lo envia con la tuberia al siguiente |
| 01:24.49 | Thanatermesis | que se ocupa de quitarle el nombre de los 2 primeros directorios |
| 01:24.58 | Thanatermesis | es decir: /tmp/paquete/ fuera |
| 01:25.12 | Thanatermesis | luego elimina las linias que esten vacias (en blanco) |
| 01:25.29 | Thanatermesis | lo re-envia a la siguiente tuberia que elimina las linas que empiecen con DEBIAN |
| 01:25.45 | Thanatermesis | vuelve a eliminar lineas en blanco creadas por esta ultima eliminacion |
| 01:25.56 | Thanatermesis | lo comprime con gzip en la siguiente tuberia |
| 01:26.04 | sinplomo | okis |
| 01:26.13 | sinplomo | :)) |
| 01:26.18 | Thanatermesis | y el resultado final de todo este proceso de tuberias es enviado con > a un fichero |
| 01:26.27 | Thanatermesis | (datos comprimidos, ya no seria texto) |
| 01:26.34 | Thanatermesis | entiendes el poder de las tuberias ? |
| 01:26.51 | sinplomo | si |
| 01:26.55 | Thanatermesis | mira, un ejemplo mucho mas sencillo y donde esta el gran poder de make-deb check |
| 01:26.59 | sinplomo | si maestro |
| 01:27.04 | Thanatermesis | zcat /var/cache/make-deb/all-list.gz /tmp/.make-deb_checkfiles.gz | sort | uniq -d > /tmp/.make-deb_checkfiles-results |
| 01:27.11 | sinplomo | para que sirve zcat ? |
| 01:27.28 | Thanatermesis | esto hace un cat (zcat = cat con compresion) de 2 ficheros juntos |
| 01:27.53 | sinplomo | sort para contar los lineas |
| 01:27.57 | sinplomo | *las |
| 01:27.57 | Thanatermesis | luego | sort lo ordena para que las posibles lineas identicas entre estas 2 listas de ficheros esten en el mismo lugar |
| 01:28.06 | sinplomo | o sea comprime 2 ficheros |
| 01:28.11 | Thanatermesis | y luego | uniq -d te muestra SOLO las lineas identicas |
| 01:28.12 | sinplomo | les cuentas las lineas |
| 01:28.32 | Thanatermesis | entonces make-deb te avisa de que a entonctrado similitudes de ficheros entre tu paquete y los existentes de debian ;) |
| 01:28.49 | sinplomo | oksi |
| 01:29.14 | Thanatermesis | en realidad las tuberias son muy faciles de entender, no dan ningun problema ya que UNIX esta preparado para trabajar asi |
| 01:29.28 | sinplomo | MS-DOS no |
| 01:29.30 | sinplomo | XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 01:29.40 | Thanatermesis | de la misma forma puedes grabar un CD con cdrecord sin necesidad de hacer PRIMERO la imagen |
| 01:29.50 | Thanatermesis | creador de imagen | grabador de CD |
| 01:30.07 | sinplomo | ya ya |
| 01:30.25 | Thanatermesis | en vez de crear la imagen en un fichero, todo lo que suelta el creador de imagen lo envia a cdrecord que esta grabando el CD ;) |
| 01:30.40 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, para lanzar dos procesos simultaneos, uso | y hasta hoy todo iba bien |
| 01:30.52 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 01:30.58 | Thanatermesis | que hacias que como ? |
| 01:31.23 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, ejecuta en tu consola |
| 01:31.40 | Thanatermesis | no cal, con que me lo digas ya se lanza en mi cerebro ;) xD |
| 01:31.44 | sinplomo | mplayer mms://a880.l857538879.c8575.e.lm.akamaistream.net/D/880/8575/v0001/reflector:38879 &> /dev/null | while [ 0=0 ] |
| 01:31.44 | sinplomo | do |
| 01:31.44 | sinplomo | for var in 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 95 100; do sleep 1; echo $var; done | dialog --gauge "Reproduciendo Musica ..." 7 40 0 |
| 01:31.44 | sinplomo | done |
| 01:31.45 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.49 | Thanatermesis | yo mismo te hago el resultado xD |
| 01:32.19 | Thanatermesis | la primera linia no sirve de nada esa tuberia, no hace nada |
| 01:32.28 | Thanatermesis | aunque de todas formas no tiene ninguna logica |
| 01:32.37 | sinplomo | que es lo que no hace nada , |
| 01:32.42 | Thanatermesis | el while |
| 01:32.48 | sinplomo | no |
| 01:32.49 | Thanatermesis | para que esta alli? que hace ? |
| 01:33.12 | Thanatermesis | joder, que script mas raro |
| 01:33.12 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:33.18 | Thanatermesis | no e visto cosa asi en mi vida xD |
| 01:33.31 | Thanatermesis | y el ;; final para que? eso solo se usa en "case" |
| 01:33.42 | sinplomo | no puedes quitar el while |
| 01:33.45 | sinplomo | tira error |
| 01:33.47 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, si ya |
| 01:33.52 | sinplomo | es que son muchos cases |
| 01:33.53 | Thanatermesis | pues no entiendo ni lo que hace ni como |
| 01:33.54 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:33.56 | sinplomo | y solo te he pillao uno |
| 01:34.03 | Thanatermesis | y luego el for... |
| 01:34.07 | Thanatermesis | segun esto haria: |
| 01:34.10 | Thanatermesis | 0 |
| 01:34.12 | Thanatermesis | 5 |
| 01:34.13 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, mira, no se, pero a mi me va |
| 01:34.13 | Thanatermesis | 10 |
| 01:34.13 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:34.14 | Thanatermesis | 15 |
| 01:34.16 | Thanatermesis | etc... |
| 01:34.21 | sinplomo | y cuando termina |
| 01:34.21 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh... |
| 01:34.24 | sinplomo | vuelve a empezar |
| 01:34.36 | Thanatermesis | y la tuberia no entiendo que hace con el dialog con tus "echo 15" |
| 01:34.36 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:34.56 | Thanatermesis | pues ni idea, no lo consigo entender |
| 01:34.59 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, ahi lo que hace, es reproducir la musica, y al mismo tiempo, tener ahi la barra de progreso cargando |
| 01:35.25 | *** join/#elive gs (~gs@105.Red-80-35-78.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:35.36 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, echo $var |
| 01:35.37 | Thanatermesis | una barra de progreso irreal que dura 20 segundos ? |
| 01:35.40 | sinplomo | se la pasa a gauge |
| 01:35.55 | sinplomo | para que muestre ese porcentaje |
| 01:35.57 | Thanatermesis | y el sleep entonces para que esta ? |
| 01:36.06 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no, dura hasta que tu hagas ctrl + c |
| 01:36.13 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... |
| 01:36.19 | Thanatermesis | bueno, parece tener un poco de logica... |
| 01:36.26 | Thanatermesis | pero el sleep no entiendo para que |
| 01:37.45 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, si no lo hago se me monta un lio ahi |
| 01:37.54 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, porque no abres una terminal y lo pruebas |
| 01:37.55 | sinplomo | ? |
| 01:38.10 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, una cosa, Eterm es la term mas ligera que hay ? |
| 01:38.21 | Thanatermesis | si si.. ya lo e entendido |
| 01:38.24 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 01:38.36 | Thanatermesis | aterm es la que tiene mas opciones y es la mas ligera |
| 01:38.45 | sinplomo | :D |
| 01:38.50 | sinplomo | uso aterm y mola |
| 01:38.51 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:38.58 | sinplomo | xDDD |
| 01:39.00 | Thanatermesis | a partir de ahora usar rxvt-unicode |
| 01:39.20 | sinplomo | bueno, parece que Thanatermesis a aprendido algo de mi en bash |
| 01:39.22 | sinplomo | o no ? |
| 01:39.22 | sinplomo | xDDDD |
| 01:39.25 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:39.40 | Thanatermesis | si, como funcionan las barras de progreso |
| 01:39.47 | sinplomo | :D |
| 01:39.50 | Thanatermesis | pero eso lo has sacado de un man, a mi no me engañas ;) |
| 01:39.55 | Thanatermesis | eso es uso avanzado de tuberias |
| 01:39.55 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 01:40.11 | Thanatermesis | y tu no tenias ni idea de lo que era una tuberia asi que... xD |
| 01:40.13 | sinplomo | man ? no |
| 01:40.20 | sinplomo | un ejemplo que me encontra ahi |
| 01:40.20 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:40.31 | Thanatermesis | bueno... es lo mismo ;) |
| 01:40.35 | sinplomo | explicaba como era eso |
| 01:40.45 | sinplomo | pero no cito para nada la palabra 'tuberia" |
| 01:40.51 | sinplomo | y no creo que sea tan avanzado |
| 01:41.30 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, bueno, volviendo al grano |
| 01:41.38 | sinplomo | y mi "script" XD |
| 01:41.44 | Thanatermesis | eso es uso avanzado de la tuberia |
| 01:41.52 | Thanatermesis | se mezclan el tiempo de los 2 procesos |
| 01:42.21 | Thanatermesis | se aprovecha el tiempo de un proceso para crear el tiempo del otro para decirlo mas claro |
| 01:42.21 | sinplomo | a mi no me parece tan avanzado |
| 01:42.30 | sinplomo | bueno, |
| 01:42.34 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, bueno, volviendo al grano |
| 01:42.36 | sinplomo | y mi "script" XD |
| 01:42.38 | sinplomo | XDDD |
| 01:42.44 | Thanatermesis | ping www.google.com |
| 01:42.46 | Thanatermesis | ya esta |
| 01:42.47 | Thanatermesis | :P |
| 01:43.00 | Thanatermesis | 95660 extents written (186 MB) |
| 01:43.11 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, necesito que muera eso despues de 5 seg |
| 01:43.32 | sinplomo | anda tio |
| 01:43.37 | sinplomo | no me seas cabron XD |
| 01:43.45 | Thanatermesis | no es nada facil |
| 01:43.48 | Thanatermesis | asi no se puede hacer |
| 01:44.02 | Thanatermesis | debes lanzar el ping en background & |
| 01:44.16 | sinplomo | como ? |
| 01:44.32 | Thanatermesis | luego con un resultado de $x (que no recuerdo cual era x) tendras el numero del proceso que lo guardaras en una variable |
| 01:45.18 | Thanatermesis | entonces un tiempo de 5 segundos mas tarde haras un kill -s SIGTERM proceso |
| 01:45.24 | Thanatermesis | o un kill -9 xD |
| 01:46.14 | sinplomo | y porque no va killlall ping ? |
| 01:46.15 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:47.37 | sdfsfsdf | killall -9 ping |
| 01:47.58 | Thanatermesis | no es tan facil |
| 01:48.16 | Thanatermesis | como sabes luego si el ping a sido correcto o no y luego tomar una decision a partir de esas 2 posiblidades ? |
| 01:48.48 | sinplomo | no quiero eso |
| 01:48.57 | sinplomo | solo quiero saber el resultado del ping |
| 01:49.26 | sinplomo | saber no, ver |
| 01:49.26 | sinplomo | XD |
| 01:58.45 | sinplomo | Thanateo Hermes Nemesis, ping |
| 01:58.49 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, ping |
| 02:01.35 | Thanatermesis | http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/tmp/shots/rxvt-1152x864.jpg |
| 02:01.41 | Thanatermesis | cual te gusta mas sinplomo de tamaño ? |
| 02:01.50 | Thanatermesis | cual ves mas visible y practico ? |
| 02:02.21 | Thanatermesis | ping -c 1 www.google.com && echo "ping ok" || echo "ping malo" |
| 02:09.55 | sinplomo | eskina inferior izquierda |
| 02:11.24 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, para que era exactamente la Elive que estaba quemando ? |
| 02:11.25 | sinplomo | ping -c 1 www.google.com && echo "ping ok" || echo "ping malo" > ping |
| 02:11.28 | sinplomo | no rulara, no ? |
| 02:11.38 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, ni zorra |
| 02:11.39 | sinplomo | XD |
| 02:11.55 | sinplomo | en serio, no lo se |
| 02:11.55 | sinplomo | XD |
| 02:12.02 | Thanatermesis | el > ping no tiene ningun sentido |
| 02:12.04 | Thanatermesis | veamos |
| 02:12.07 | Thanatermesis | que quieres hacer ? |
| 02:12.15 | Thanatermesis | si es correcto que haga que? |
| 02:12.19 | Thanatermesis | y si es falso que haga que ? |
| 02:13.00 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, solo quiero que todo lo salga de ese comando se meta en un file llamado ping |
| 02:13.54 | Thanatermesis | ping -c 1 www.google.com && echo "ping ok" >> ping.txt || echo "ping malo" >> ping.txt |
| 02:14.11 | Thanatermesis | creia que querias que reinicie la red o algo... |
| 02:15.00 | sinplomo | es para eso |
| 02:15.04 | sinplomo | pero lo quiero hacer yo |
| 02:15.06 | sinplomo | ^^ |
| 02:15.13 | Thanatermesis | ok, como quieras |
| 02:16.21 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, se fueden hacer cosas asi ? |
| 02:16.42 | sinplomo | if [ `cat pip` = "caca" ] |
| 02:16.47 | sinplomo | then |
| 02:16.53 | sinplomo | echo " guarro !! " |
| 02:16.57 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, recuerdame que hay que testear e16menuedit y e16keyedit del e16 de elive |
| 02:16.58 | sinplomo | exit 0 |
| 02:17.00 | sinplomo | fi |
| 02:17.03 | Thanatermesis | que no se me olvide |
| 02:17.08 | Thanatermesis | que me parece que no rulara |
| 02:17.24 | sinplomo | el que , |
| 02:17.30 | sinplomo | no rulara ? |
| 02:17.49 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, por cierto, gkrellm tiene un plugin muy bueno, para poner notas |
| 02:17.50 | sinplomo | XD |
| 02:17.51 | Thanatermesis | no, porque es de e16.7, no de e16.8 |
| 02:17.55 | Thanatermesis | tu cual usas ahora mismo ? |
| 02:17.57 | sinplomo | usalo |
| 02:17.58 | sinplomo | XD |
| 02:18.01 | sinplomo | e16.8 |
| 02:18.22 | Thanatermesis | hay tantas cosas para notar sinplomo que es un lio, luego noto todo por todos lados y me olvido que existe X sitio donde note algo... |
| 02:18.23 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, mira lo que te he preguntao un poco mas arriba pliz |
| 02:18.29 | Thanatermesis | mira, apt me dice lo que tengo que hacer hoy... |
| 02:18.38 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD besugo XD |
| 02:18.39 | Thanatermesis | la pagina de Elive tiene el fichero "TODO" |
| 02:18.52 | Thanatermesis | el TODO es el mejor sitio, creo que lo notare mejor alli todo... xD |
| 02:19.15 | Thanatermesis | <sinplomo> if [ `cat pip` = "caca" ] |
| 02:19.15 | Thanatermesis | <sinplomo> then |
| 02:19.15 | Thanatermesis | <sinplomo> echo " guarro !! " |
| 02:19.18 | Thanatermesis | oo_OO |
| 02:19.27 | Thanatermesis | pero tu te crees que voy a entender algo asi? |
| 02:19.27 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 02:19.39 | sinplomo | aps |
| 02:19.46 | Thanatermesis | juas |
| 02:19.49 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.54 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.56 | Thanatermesis | ¬¬ |
| 02:19.56 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.00 | sinplomo | XDDDD |
| 02:20.05 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, a ver |
| 02:20.19 | Thanatermesis | tu te crees que y puedo entender que coño es cat pipi = caca ? |
| 02:20.28 | Thanatermesis | es que no tiene ningun sentido ni logica xD |
| 02:21.11 | Thanatermesis | if [ pimpampum = cocoloco ] ; then pipicaca ; else tetaculo |
| 02:21.15 | Thanatermesis | dime si eso funcionaria |
| 02:21.15 | Thanatermesis | xD |
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| 02:22.44 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, si la salida de cat pipi es igula a caca te tacha de guarro |
| 02:22.50 | Thanatermesis | ¬¬ |
| 02:22.55 | Thanatermesis | hi riley |
| 02:23.26 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, bueno, pero yas sabes que quiero hacer |
| 02:23.28 | sinplomo | XD |
| 02:23.33 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, podria poner haces |
| 02:23.48 | sinplomo | var1=`cat /tmp/pipi` |
| 02:23.49 | sinplomo | no ? |
| 02:23.52 | sinplomo | y luago |
| 02:24.06 | sinplomo | if [ $var1 = "caca" ] |
| 02:24.17 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, tu estas loco, a ver, me pones un script para que te corrija, y yo tengo que entender cat pipi... vale, que coño es cat pipi, que hace? a donde apunta? y luego aun mas importante, tiene que ser igual o no igual a caca, y que coño es caca? un valor? un numero? una salida? un resultado ? |
| 02:24.22 | Thanatermesis | me entiendes ? |
| 02:24.30 | Thanatermesis | you understand me sinplomo ? |
| 02:24.59 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, a ver |
| 02:25.03 | sinplomo | imagina que hago |
| 02:25.10 | sinplomo | touch /tmp/ba |
| 02:25.11 | Thanatermesis | nada, mientras hables como un niño de 3 años con caca-pipi-teta-culo-pis no te voy a entender... |
| 02:25.17 | Thanatermesis | voy a seguir con Elive en la VM |
| 02:25.21 | sinplomo | echo hola > /tmp/bla |
| 02:25.30 | sinplomo | y luego |
| 02:25.32 | Thanatermesis | que aqui pierdo demasiado tiempo inutilmente para nada... |
| 02:25.51 | sinplomo | if [ `/tmp/bla = "hola" ] |
| 02:25.53 | sinplomo | then |
| 02:26.00 | sinplomo | echo "saludo" |
| 02:26.02 | sinplomo | fi |
| 02:26.13 | Thanatermesis | (...) |
| 02:26.24 | sinplomo | nada |
| 02:26.27 | sinplomo | no lo pillas ? |
| 02:26.31 | Thanatermesis | como no me pongas valores reales de las partes no las puedo asimilar con la realidad |
| 02:26.33 | Thanatermesis | hasta luego |
| 02:28.01 | Thanatermesis | (...) |
| 02:29.45 | Thanatermesis | gs, deberia ponerle un BAN a sinplomo... |
| 02:29.49 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 02:29.58 | Thanatermesis | tu has visto que forma mas inutil de gastar tiempo ? |
| 02:30.45 | riley | no se mas espanol, pero quiero felicitar les para elive! me gusta mucho! |
| 02:30.52 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:30.58 | Thanatermesis | thank you riley |
| 02:31.04 | Thanatermesis | what version you have tested ? |
| 02:31.11 | riley | lol i know i made grammatical mistakes there |
| 02:31.17 | riley | 0.1 beta |
| 02:31.37 | Thanatermesis | hummm, do you like 0,1 ? |
| 02:32.00 | Thanatermesis | good, 0.1 are bad, crazy, broken, non stable, limited... |
| 02:32.12 | Thanatermesis | hehe, you need to look the features of the 0.3 ;) |
| 02:32.24 | Thanatermesis | (or 0.2) |
| 02:32.51 | Thanatermesis | totally diferent base for the new versions of Elive |
| 02:33.10 | riley | lol, i did notice some bugginess, but all i really did was boot, bring up a terminal, and mess around... is the demo video on the site 0.3? |
| 02:33.17 | Thanatermesis | a base STABLE, totally clean, hard disk installation, RW feature in all liveCD (posiblity of apt-get install moo) |
| 02:33.40 | Thanatermesis | no, the video-demo is the 0.1 |
| 02:33.49 | riley | oh ok |
| 02:34.02 | riley | apt-get is working? |
| 02:34.15 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 02:34.16 | riley | i've never seen it actually _work_ on a live cd befor |
| 02:34.17 | riley | e |
| 02:34.18 | Thanatermesis | in the liveCD mode ;) |
| 02:34.51 | riley | that includes knoppix too! sounds like the elive team has made some pretty big accomplishments |
| 02:35.41 | Thanatermesis | apt, rw-feature |
| 02:35.42 | apt | [rw-feature] the new feature of elive, you have the posiblity of "apt-get install moo" in the liveCD directly without any problem, the only limitation are your RAM, all changes are maked virtually in the RAM |
| 02:35.46 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 02:36.47 | Thanatermesis | Elive in this moments are converting to a personal distro, has made aproximately 100 packages in this moments, and are based in a "debian etch" |
| 02:37.24 | Thanatermesis | and in this moments Im implementing the UTF8 for all the system |
| 02:39.57 | riley | cool |
| 02:40.23 | riley | well, i'm out, congrats again! |
| 02:40.28 | Thanatermesis | thanks riley |
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| 04:20.57 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
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| 09:56.39 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
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| 09:58.03 | sinplomo | wenas |
| 09:58.05 | sinplomo | alguien despierto ? |
| 10:03.36 | sinplomo | bueno |
| 10:03.46 | sinplomo | ire termininado de traducir make-deb |
| 10:04.07 | sinplomo | postinst es para antes de la instalacion total del paquete, puede contener \$1 como configure entre otros, prerm puede contener remove, deconfigure... etc, si quieres meter estos scripts es el momento de hacerlo en $paquete/DEBIAN/ y recuerda dejarles permisos de ejecucion...\nPulsa intro para continuar.${normal}\n" |
| 10:04.16 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no deberia de ser reconfigure ? |
| 10:04.25 | sinplomo | has puesto deconfigure |
| 10:05.13 | sinplomo | y postint no es para antes de la instalacion ? |
| 10:05.23 | sinplomo | eso no es el print ? |
| 10:05.26 | sinplomo | o algo asi ? |
| 10:25.39 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, despierta joder |
| 10:42.19 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, a veces te repites |
| 10:42.31 | sinplomo | hay varios mensajes en lo que dices lo mismo |
| 10:52.40 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, faltan cinco mensajes :D |
| 10:57.44 | sinplomo | joder |
| 10:57.50 | sinplomo | se volvio a escapar |
| 10:57.52 | sinplomo | XD |
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| 12:42.17 | Thanatermesis | BACK |
| 12:42.19 | Thanatermesis | hola sinplomo |
| 12:43.01 | sinplomo | lee todo lo de arriva |
| 12:43.04 | sinplomo | arriba |
| 12:43.07 | Thanatermesis | estoy en ello |
| 12:43.10 | sinplomo | me falta un mensaje |
| 12:43.14 | Thanatermesis | postinst es para despues de la instalacion |
| 12:43.41 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, lo se, ya dije que no hay problema de acortarlo xD |
| 12:43.59 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, corrijo de lo de postint en lo mio |
| 12:43.59 | Thanatermesis | blokkie no es el devel de e16 |
| 12:44.20 | Thanatermesis | no faltan mensajes, hay 30 o 31, el resto son para "futuros mensajes" ;) |
| 12:44.26 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 12:44.35 | sinplomo | me falta a mi |
| 12:44.36 | sinplomo | XD |
| 12:44.46 | Thanatermesis | ah vale xD |
| 12:45.12 | sinplomo | MESSAGE[31]="\n${rojo}Paquetes que hacen referencia a esos ficheros:${normal}" |
| 12:45.29 | sinplomo | eso, es lo mismo, paquetes que contienen esos files |
| 12:46.56 | Thanatermesis | no exactamente |
| 12:47.06 | Thanatermesis | dejalo tal y como lo pone alli |
| 12:47.16 | Thanatermesis | esta bien escrito |
| 12:47.33 | sinplomo | es que no se como poner eso en ingles |
| 12:47.39 | Thanatermesis | quiere decir que va a mostrar los paquetes que contienen los mismos ficheros que el tuyo |
| 12:48.06 | sinplomo | okis |
| 12:48.22 | Thanatermesis | Packages of have the same files and dirs to your package |
| 12:48.23 | Thanatermesis | algo asi xD |
| 12:48.55 | sinplomo | XDDD |
| 12:48.56 | sinplomo | bueno |
| 12:48.58 | sinplomo | finish |
| 12:49.28 | sinplomo | inglish jisjisjisjisjis |
| 12:49.29 | sinplomo | XD |
| 12:49.53 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, oye, seguro que en cada mensaje tengo algun error, sintactico, lexico o algo asi |
| 12:50.06 | sinplomo | dile a los de debian-mentors que te lo corrijan |
| 12:50.07 | sinplomo | XDD |
| 12:50.15 | sinplomo | que para algo les vas a facilitar la vida |
| 12:50.17 | sinplomo | XD |
| 12:53.15 | Thanatermesis | vamos a ver... |
| 12:54.16 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no he tenido tiempo de ajustarlo ni na |
| 12:54.20 | sinplomo | lo hice todo esta manana |
| 12:55.19 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 12:55.22 | Thanatermesis | voy a ver que tal queda... |
| 12:57.06 | Thanatermesis | Hola que tal, me llamo Nacho, soy un sevillano de 24 años |
| 12:57.06 | Thanatermesis | administrador de sistemas de profesión y amante de GNU/Linux en |
| 12:57.06 | Thanatermesis | particular y de Debian sobre todo. |
| 12:57.06 | Thanatermesis | Conocà vuestro proyecto por la web de distrowatch ... |
| 12:57.17 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, creo que va siendo hora de ir metiendole caña a esto |
| 12:57.17 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 12:57.27 | Thanatermesis | ya veras tu como va a ser a partir de ahora xD |
| 12:57.52 | sinplomo | XDDDD |
| 12:57.52 | Thanatermesis | ----------- |
| 12:57.54 | Thanatermesis | Hello, I am an OSX user looking to move over to enlightenment on my |
| 12:57.55 | Thanatermesis | older PC. I am running your live CD currently, and love enlightenment |
| 12:57.55 | Thanatermesis | compared to gnome or KDE. I am familiar with apt and would just like |
| 12:57.55 | Thanatermesis | to copy over your disk so it boots off the hard drive. It seems |
| 12:57.55 | Thanatermesis | knoppix used to come with a utility to do so, but this disk does not |
| 12:57.55 | Thanatermesis | include it. Any pointers or how-to's you could point me to would be a |
| 12:57.57 | Thanatermesis | blessing. |
| 12:58.01 | Thanatermesis | Thanks |
| 12:58.03 | Thanatermesis | -------------- |
| 12:58.07 | Thanatermesis | aun no se que contestarle a este |
| 12:58.09 | Thanatermesis | joder.. |
| 12:58.24 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, dile que para la proxima version se podra instalar en el hd |
| 12:58.35 | sinplomo | o botear desde un pendrive o disco duro usb |
| 12:58.36 | sinplomo | y fuera |
| 12:59.09 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, recuerdas que te dije que una empresa espanola en marruecos buscaba un administrador de sistemas ? |
| 12:59.12 | sinplomo | para 4 ubuntu ? |
| 13:01.17 | sinplomo | pos nada |
| 13:01.20 | sinplomo | no encuentran |
| 13:01.25 | sinplomo | y llevan como un mes buscando |
| 13:01.30 | sinplomo | estan bastante apurados |
| 13:01.31 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:01.39 | sinplomo | dicen que le pagarian muy bien |
| 13:01.46 | sinplomo | 1.000 € / mes por ahi |
| 13:02.07 | sinplomo | que conste en marruecos que es es el 7 veces el salario de un marroqui medio |
| 13:02.15 | sinplomo | y igual que el del director de un banco |
| 13:02.19 | sinplomo | *e |
| 13:03.21 | Thanatermesis | perdona, dame un segundo que por fin tengo al devel de morphixinstaller y necesito aclarar una cosilla ;) |
| 13:03.31 | Thanatermesis | elive, didn't you get slashdotted earlier? |
| 13:03.35 | Thanatermesis | que significa eso ? |
| 13:03.45 | sinplomo | slashdot ? |
| 13:03.51 | gs | sinplomo, diles ke tu conoces a uno xD |
| 13:03.54 | sinplomo | slashdot es / . |
| 13:04.17 | sinplomo | gs, un amigo de mi padre es intimo amigo del responsable de la empresa |
| 13:04.18 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:04.34 | gs | y te van a meter? |
| 13:05.21 | sinplomo | yo ? |
| 13:05.26 | sinplomo | si tengo 15 a~nos |
| 13:05.26 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:05.28 | gs | si tu |
| 13:05.29 | gs | y? |
| 13:05.46 | sinplomo | para trabajar un mes ? y dudo que me contraten |
| 13:05.56 | sinplomo | no creo que tenga demasiados concimientos |
| 13:06.03 | sinplomo | aunque los ubuntu sean pan comido |
| 13:06.04 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:06.19 | gs | pero para ke es el curro exactamente? |
| 13:06.21 | gs | lo sabes? |
| 13:07.14 | sinplomo | administrar cuatro servidores rulando bajo ubuntu |
| 13:07.22 | sinplomo | ( o al menos, eso tengo entendido ) |
| 13:07.59 | gs | diles ke yo me ofrezco |
| 13:08.11 | gs | ke no cobro |
| 13:08.15 | gs | un mes de prueba |
| 13:08.18 | gs | y si kieren me contratan |
| 13:08.23 | sinplomo | gs, eso tiene facil arreglo, pones el portsentry al server ( para enviar una falsa imagen de los puertos que tienes abiertos ) y te viens da dos dias a borrar unos cuantos gigas de logs |
| 13:08.25 | sinplomo | XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 13:09.02 | sinplomo | gs, ahora te paso la web de la empresa, y les envias un mail |
| 13:09.08 | gs | no hombre |
| 13:09.17 | gs | ya ke se tiene enchufe se aprobecha |
| 13:09.23 | gs | mueve los hilos |
| 13:10.25 | sinplomo | Dans le cadre des ses activitès à Larache l'association Indymedia recherche une personne vivant à Larache, Tanger ou environs, disponible la dernière semaine de juillet et pouvant gérer la maintenance de quatres ordinateurs tournant sous Ubuntu Linux. |
| 13:11.14 | gs | yo no se frances |
| 13:11.40 | sinplomo | lo tienes crudo |
| 13:11.42 | sinplomo | :P |
| 13:11.56 | sinplomo | bueno, en larache con espanol puedes sobrevivir |
| 13:11.56 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:12.21 | gs | vamos a ver |
| 13:12.29 | gs | los servidores se administran de donde te salga |
| 13:12.29 | gs | xD |
| 13:13.59 | sinplomo | gs, XDD |
| 13:14.01 | sinplomo | ssh ? |
| 13:14.03 | sinplomo | XDDDDDDDD |
| 13:14.10 | gs | tu veras |
| 13:14.32 | sinplomo | pero necesitan a alguien ahi |
| 13:14.33 | sinplomo | XD |
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| 13:14.48 | sinplomo | pa que te crees que piden alguen de la zona ? |
| 13:15.15 | ArkiMedeS | wenas |
| 13:15.17 | gs | tu seras mis ojos |
| 13:15.21 | gs | xDDDDDDDDDd |
| 13:19.59 | sinplomo | gs, |
| 13:20.00 | sinplomo | jode |
| 13:20.05 | sinplomo | lee esto |
| 13:20.06 | sinplomo | Bassam is one of 5the founders of the Iraqi Linux Users Group (LUG) and |
| 13:20.06 | sinplomo | under Saddam a hacker by necessity in alliance with collegues from N-Korea |
| 13:20.06 | sinplomo | and Sudan. |
| 13:20.06 | sinplomo | In Basrah he gave a workshop on how to do streaming with Dyne:bolic |
| 13:20.06 | sinplomo | Bassam tells us how he stole a password to get access to the internet, how |
| 13:20.08 | sinplomo | he made trojan horses to steal more passwords from Saddams state by |
| 13:20.12 | sinplomo | sending the adminstrators porn clips |
| 13:20.14 | sinplomo | with embedded trojan horses. |
| 13:20.16 | sinplomo | "I believe we made some noise". |
| 13:20.18 | sinplomo | And how he got hold of his first linux distribution. |
| 13:20.20 | sinplomo | XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 13:20.26 | sinplomo | lo de como robaba cosas al gobierno de iraq |
| 13:20.28 | sinplomo | xD |
| 13:20.43 | gs | juaz |
| 13:20.53 | sinplomo | http://iraqilinux.org/ |
| 13:21.11 | sinplomo | gs, la empresa es esta http://estrecho.indymedia.org |
| 13:22.23 | sinplomo | sabe alguien que hago si quiero fdisk-ear el mbr |
| 13:23.10 | ArkiMedeS | fdisk /mbr |
| 13:23.14 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14D |
| 13:23.25 | sinplomo | ArkiMedeS, pregunto sobre como conseguir el diskete |
| 13:23.26 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:23.36 | ArkiMedeS | 12www.bootdisk.com |
| 13:23.45 | ArkiMedeS | disketes de arranque de varios s.o |
| 13:23.45 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14D |
| 13:23.48 | ArkiMedeS | te vale? |
| 13:23.56 | sinplomo | gracias |
| 13:24.01 | gs | mkboot |
| 13:24.13 | sinplomo | ArkiMedeS, el disk es igual en to los laos ? |
| 13:24.45 | ArkiMedeS | si |
| 13:24.54 | ArkiMedeS | pillate el de windows me mismo |
| 13:25.14 | sinplomo | gs, no uso lilo |
| 13:25.36 | gs | ke usas grub? |
| 13:25.42 | sinplomo | claro |
| 13:25.42 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:25.51 | gs | pues eso tb es para grub |
| 13:26.09 | sinplomo | /usr/sbin/mkboot: line 97: /etc/lilo.conf: No existe el fichero o el directorio |
| 13:26.22 | gs | leete el man |
| 13:26.53 | ArkiMedeS | habra q pasarle algun parametro |
| 13:27.03 | ArkiMedeS | o tendras q actualizarte el mkboot ese claro |
| 13:27.06 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DD |
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| 13:29.53 | sinplomo | Shelling, apt no te echa la bronca ? |
| 13:30.26 | Shelling | si |
| 13:30.47 | Shelling | ahunk no se ingles |
| 13:31.10 | sinplomo | Shelling, es porque te conectas al irc como root |
| 13:31.19 | Shelling | ya veo algo de root ya |
| 13:32.04 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, /query :P |
| 13:36.30 | *** join/#elive TuxMeister (~TuxMeiste@212.15.223.82.arsystel.com) |
| 13:36.43 | TuxMeister | hola gente |
| 13:37.17 | TuxMeister | se necesita editar el fichero de configuracion... |
| 13:40.52 | Thanatermesis | luego me lo comentas para hacer un autopaquete TuxMeister , ahora mismo estoy muy liado con 4 cosas a la vez y el dev de morphix |
| 13:40.53 | gs | habeis usado alguno slackware alguna vez? |
| 13:41.26 | TuxMeister | gs, solo en slax (live) y no he tocado el sistema |
| 13:41.42 | gs | eske estoy tocando el sistema y hay cosillas ke no encuentro XD |
| 13:41.50 | gs | pero na seguire buscando |
| 13:41.53 | TuxMeister | xD eso me paso a mi con BSD |
| 13:42.57 | gs | yo estoy haciuendo una guia para los novatos ke empiezan con slack |
| 13:43.01 | gs | para la revista y tal |
| 13:43.43 | TuxMeister | ahm |
| 13:43.50 | TuxMeister | eres colaborador de la LFM? |
| 13:43.55 | gs | si |
| 13:44.05 | ArkiMedeS | 4«2g14s4» q revista? |
| 13:44.16 | gs | Linux Free Magazine |
| 13:44.20 | gs | pero esta es otra aparte |
| 13:44.24 | gs | son Guias Linux |
| 13:44.35 | ArkiMedeS | es online? |
| 13:44.40 | gs | nope |
| 13:45.09 | ArkiMedeS | pos no me suena |
| 13:45.14 | ArkiMedeS | bueno aki en melilla estamos en el culo del mundo |
| 13:45.16 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DD |
| 13:47.12 | gs | ArkiMedeS, necesitan un admin por alli |
| 13:47.20 | gs | pagan 1000euros dicen |
| 13:47.30 | ArkiMedeS | donde |
| 13:47.37 | sinplomo | gs, hasta |
| 13:47.37 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:47.44 | gs | una empresa ke conoce sinplomo |
| 13:48.13 | ArkiMedeS | 4«2s14i1n2p14l1o2m14o4» q empresa |
| 13:48.23 | ArkiMedeS | me vendria bien ahora estoy mas parao q la chaketa un guardia |
| 13:48.26 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14D |
| 13:48.28 | sinplomo | ArkiMedeS, si si, tu vete ahi, y preparate a que cada noche toda marruecos te haga scanports |
| 13:48.30 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:48.40 | ArkiMedeS | jjajajajaj |
| 13:48.48 | ArkiMedeS | el otro dia en la frontera |
| 13:48.48 | sinplomo | la empresa es esta http://estrecho.indymedia.org |
| 13:48.53 | ArkiMedeS | le metieron una paliza a una vieja |
| 13:48.55 | sinplomo | es una espanola |
| 13:48.57 | ArkiMedeS | la policia marroki |
| 13:48.57 | ArkiMedeS | madre mia |
| 13:48.58 | gs | sinplomo, ke mas da ke te hagan escaneos? |
| 13:49.01 | sinplomo | ArkiMedeS, uff |
| 13:49.03 | ArkiMedeS | la pusieron mirando a cuenca |
| 13:49.06 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DD |
| 13:49.09 | sinplomo | XD |
| 13:49.14 | ArkiMedeS | weno me piro |
| 13:49.18 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14D |
| 13:49.20 | sinplomo | asi viendo de lejos hace gracia |
| 13:49.26 | sinplomo | pero cuando estas entre esa multiud |
| 13:49.37 | sinplomo | y el poli amenzando con pegarte ... |
| 13:49.41 | sinplomo | ya veras tu que gracia |
| 14:00.57 | gs | la policia de marruecos dicen ke es bastante corrupta |
| 14:07.40 | TuxMeister | gs, no solo corrupta, sino que muchos son polis, jueces, y verdugos a la vez |
| 14:08.15 | TuxMeister | se toman la justicia por su mano, y si le parece que la has hecho gorda, te planta un trozo de plomo en la cabeza sin mirar |
| 14:12.23 | Thanatermesis | bueno, "sin"plomo se salva |
| 14:12.23 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 14:12.25 | sinplomo | estan mas corruptos que las DLLs de windows |
| 14:13.08 | sinplomo | pero parece ser que con la "nueva generacion " de policia la cosa va a ser distinta |
| 14:13.12 | TuxMeister | jajaj, sinplomo alli le has dado! |
| 14:13.13 | sinplomo | y lo que dice TuxMeister es cierto |
| 14:13.18 | sinplomo | salvo lo del plomo |
| 14:13.33 | sinplomo | en vez de dispararte, te llevan a la comisaria |
| 14:13.42 | sinplomo | te meten en una habitacion |
| 14:13.48 | sinplomo | y vete a saber que lo te hacen alli |
| 14:13.50 | sinplomo | nunca estuve |
| 14:13.58 | sinplomo | y nadie de los ue entran y sale quiere contarlo |
| 14:14.23 | sinplomo | y aqui la poli no tiene coches patrula, sin furgones patrulla |
| 14:14.36 | sinplomo | si tienes suerte, te meten ahi y te dan una paliza |
| 14:14.55 | sinplomo | pero bueno, TuxMeister en rumania las cosas son asi tmb ? |
| 14:15.43 | TuxMeister | sinplomo, si... bueno... es facil que pilles una paliza por parte de la poli, pero todo se soluciona con dinero |
| 14:16.26 | sinplomo | exactamente igual aqui |
| 14:16.44 | Thanatermesis | TuxMeister, sinplomo ya a echo las traducciones de make-deb al ingles ;) |
| 14:16.59 | Thanatermesis | solo falta corregirlo, lo que no e tenido tiempo ni de mirarmelo porque no paro |
| 14:17.07 | sinplomo | pero hace unos a~nos, los policias pillaban 5 o 2 euros de ti |
| 14:17.14 | sinplomo | y te perdonaban una multa de 40 euros |
| 14:17.18 | sinplomo | ahora ya piden 20 euros |
| 14:17.20 | sinplomo | y vamos |
| 14:17.26 | sinplomo | como que prefiero pagar la multa |
| 14:17.32 | sinplomo | a que se lleve el cerdo ese 20 euros |
| 14:18.09 | Thanatermesis | chantajealo sinplomo coño, dile que prefieres pagar 40 que se la lleve el asi que hacepta 10 o nada |
| 14:18.29 | sinplomo | te dice que te den por saco |
| 14:18.29 | sinplomo | XD |
| 14:18.31 | Thanatermesis | s/h// |
| 14:18.33 | sinplomo | o 20 o 40 |
| 14:18.35 | sinplomo | tu eliges |
| 14:18.41 | sinplomo | asi que acaba el cahtajeandote |
| 14:18.46 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, pues dile 40 con una sonrisa ;) |
| 14:18.46 | sinplomo | y si le sale de los huevos |
| 14:18.48 | sinplomo | te la sube a60 |
| 14:18.49 | sinplomo | XD |
| 14:19.09 | Thanatermesis | pues le dices que su familia lo pagara tambien con su vida ;) |
| 14:19.10 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 14:19.38 | TuxMeister | Thanatermesis, les dices eso y no vives para reirte en su cara |
| 14:20.00 | TuxMeister | Thanatermesis, no hables idioteces, no has estado en paises asi, las cosas son muy dificiles, y no tan pa bromas |
| 14:20.40 | Thanatermesis | ya bueno, yo paso de estas conversaciones la verdad no se ni pa que hablo |
| 14:20.40 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 14:20.45 | sinplomo | TuxMeister, parece ser que Thanatermesis no sabe que es que te humille un poli delante de una multitud |
| 14:20.48 | sinplomo | sin poder hacer anda |
| 14:20.50 | sinplomo | (: |
| 14:20.53 | sinplomo | :( |
| 14:21.11 | TuxMeister | ya |
| 14:21.14 | Thanatermesis | aqui y en españa siempre e sido yo que e humillado al poli |
| 14:21.16 | Thanatermesis | verdad TuxMeister ? |
| 14:21.17 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 14:21.34 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, y yo a los maderos :P |
| 14:21.49 | sinplomo | por intentar ellos meterse e insultarme por moro |
| 14:23.45 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, sabes como hacer para que el usuario normal puede ejecutar sleep y shutdown ? |
| 14:24.49 | Thanatermesis | sudo ? |
| 14:25.04 | Thanatermesis | sleep puede ejecutar todo dios |
| 14:25.12 | Thanatermesis | y todo user |
| 14:25.12 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 14:26.44 | sinplomo | no |
| 14:26.47 | sinplomo | sleep todos ? |
| 14:26.49 | sinplomo | de PM |
| 14:26.59 | sinplomo | pero shutdown sin pass |
| 14:28.14 | Thanatermesis | ponlo como sudo |
| 14:28.24 | Thanatermesis | y que pida pass si se quiere apagar |
| 14:30.59 | sinplomo | hum |
| 14:31.02 | sinplomo | gksudo |
| 14:31.04 | sinplomo | me sirve |
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| 14:36.24 | sinplomo | ese NachE ! |
| 14:37.25 | NachE | ese! |
| 14:37.35 | sinplomo | emmm |
| 14:37.43 | sinplomo | cuando dejas de usar tu pc por una rato |
| 14:37.46 | sinplomo | entra en modo .... |
| 14:37.48 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, que era lo que dijimos ayer que tenia que añadir al TODO ? |
| 14:37.55 | sinplomo | ahorro de energia no ? |
| 14:38.01 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, bugs-reporting |
| 14:38.02 | Thanatermesis | solo la pantalla |
| 14:38.05 | Thanatermesis | (en principio) |
| 14:38.11 | Thanatermesis | bugs-reporting ? |
| 14:38.22 | sinplomo | cheking Thanatermesis .deb dependecis |
| 14:39.39 | Thanatermesis | ein ? |
| 14:39.48 | Thanatermesis | chequear todos los paquetes con make-deb check ? |
| 14:40.25 | sinplomo | hay paquetes tuyos que no tiene algunas dependencias bien puestas |
| 14:40.30 | sinplomo | les falta dependencias |
| 14:41.20 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, linux tmb hace eso que hace windows de suspender ? |
| 14:42.30 | sinplomo | modo "suspensio" XD |
| 14:42.53 | Thanatermesis | si |
| 14:43.02 | Thanatermesis | y creo que lo puedes configurar "mejor" que windows |
| 14:43.06 | Thanatermesis | hay diferentes modos |
| 14:43.08 | Thanatermesis | por cierto sinplomo |
| 14:43.11 | Thanatermesis | tengo algo para ti |
| 14:43.18 | Thanatermesis | e16menuedit y e16keyedit |
| 14:43.26 | sinplomo | eso es para e16.7 |
| 14:43.28 | Thanatermesis | el menuedit necesito que me mires si no falla alguna dep |
| 14:43.32 | Thanatermesis | por el resto deben de ir bien... |
| 14:43.42 | Thanatermesis | no, e16.8 ;) |
| 14:43.47 | Thanatermesis | e16menuedit2 y e16keyedit2 |
| 14:43.48 | Thanatermesis | ;) |
| 14:44.11 | sinplomo | bueno, metelos en misc |
| 14:44.27 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, como se hace eso en linux |
| 14:44.30 | sinplomo | porque me interesa |
| 14:45.04 | Thanatermesis | na, que sino tengo que actualizar todo el repo |
| 14:45.13 | Thanatermesis | por cierto, los paquetes son compilados en etch en vez de estable ahora |
| 14:45.26 | Thanatermesis | en el proximo upgrade de efl-all hay que mirar si no falla algo (que lo dudo) |
| 14:45.37 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, ni idea de como se hace, nunca me lo e mirado |
| 15:03.23 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, te aburres? ;) |
| 15:03.42 | Thanatermesis | habria que crear un sub-menu para el boot de Elive, te haria gracia hacerlo ? |
| 15:06.16 | Thanatermesis | I created a torrent for Elive. Its already in use. You are welcome to post the link on your site. |
| 15:06.16 | Thanatermesis | http://mirror.hrnoc.net/pub/torrents/Elive_0.1_nibeta_nialpha.iso.torrent |
| 15:11.26 | sinplomo | $ e16menuedit /home/sinplomo/.e16/menus/internet/index.menu |
| 15:11.27 | sinplomo | hmm. looks like you have some "issues" as you don't have |
| 15:11.27 | sinplomo | a /home/sinplomo/.enlightenment/file.menu file. Sucks to be you |
| 15:12.46 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 15:12.54 | Thanatermesis | e16menuedit se lanza sin argumentos sinplomo |
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| 15:20.27 | ArkiMedeS | nas |
| 15:20.31 | Thanatermesis | nas ArkiMedeS |
| 15:20.38 | ArkiMedeS | nas Thanatermesis |
| 15:22.31 | sinplomo | $ e16menuedit |
| 15:22.31 | sinplomo | hmm. looks like you have some "issues" as you don't have |
| 15:22.31 | sinplomo | a /home/sinplomo/.enlightenment/file.menu file. Sucks to be you |
| 15:22.45 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, el problema es que cambiaste eso a .e16 |
| 15:22.51 | sinplomo | so tonto |
| 15:24.45 | sinplomo | claro |
| 15:24.51 | sinplomo | el el file.menu |
| 15:25.01 | sinplomo | no tiene que estar en .e16/menus |
| 15:25.04 | sinplomo | ni que en .e16 |
| 15:25.14 | sinplomo | ala, a tocar el source de tu soft Thanatermesis |
| 15:25.43 | Thanatermesis | habra que tocar source... |
| 15:25.47 | Thanatermesis | veamos |
| 15:25.59 | Thanatermesis | me dices que e16menuedit va a buscar al directorio incorrecto, no ? |
| 15:26.09 | Thanatermesis | que busca en ~/.enlightenment ? |
| 15:26.16 | Thanatermesis | dejame ver eso... |
| 15:26.24 | Thanatermesis | sino, el e16keyedit funciona ? |
| 15:27.01 | Thanatermesis | ok, habia un directorio escondido llamado e16menuedit2 |
| 15:27.10 | Thanatermesis | voy a recompilarlo alli y te paso el nuevo .deb |
| 15:27.19 | sinplomo | el e16keyedit se lanza |
| 15:27.22 | Thanatermesis | me extrañaba que no estaba retocado de codigo fuente... |
| 15:27.25 | sinplomo | pero tengo que probarlo |
| 15:27.35 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, asocia unas cuantas teclas rapidas para probarlo |
| 15:27.43 | Thanatermesis | yo por ejemplo tnego Alt-E para abrir una terminal |
| 15:27.47 | Thanatermesis | es muy practico, ponte esa ;) |
| 15:28.57 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no funciona :) |
| 15:28.58 | sinplomo | XD |
| 15:29.07 | Thanatermesis | make-deb compile lanzado |
| 15:29.20 | Thanatermesis | no funciona ? reinicia enlightenemnt con Control-Alt-Fin |
| 15:29.32 | sinplomo | no es eso |
| 15:29.36 | sinplomo | le doy a save |
| 15:29.38 | sinplomo | cierro |
| 15:29.40 | sinplomo | y abro |
| 15:29.46 | sinplomo | y es como si no hubiera tocao anda |
| 15:29.47 | sinplomo | nada |
| 15:30.50 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, dejame verlo, voy a hacer un seguimiento de lo que guarda y lo que no y donde... |
| 15:31.00 | Thanatermesis | lemme check |
| 15:31.03 | Thanatermesis | que significa eso ? |
| 15:31.12 | sinplomo | a ver |
| 15:31.22 | sinplomo | analicemos la puta habla anglosajona |
| 15:31.36 | sinplomo | eso es una vulgar manera de decir, let me check |
| 15:31.41 | sinplomo | dejame probar |
| 15:32.05 | ArkiMedeS | 4«2T14h1a2n14a1t2e14r1m2e14s1i2s4» hazte un cursillo de ingles |
| 15:32.05 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DD |
| 15:32.13 | ArkiMedeS | sigues siendo tan malo con el ingles? |
| 15:32.14 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14D |
| 15:33.18 | Thanatermesis | voy mejorando un poco ;) |
| 15:33.29 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14D |
| 15:33.35 | Thanatermesis | it seems ibuild is better |
| 15:33.40 | Thanatermesis | dice que ibuild es mejor, no ? |
| 15:33.43 | ArkiMedeS | cuando me metias en los canales a hablar ingles mamon |
| 15:33.44 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDDDD |
| 15:34.40 | Thanatermesis | xDDD ;) |
| 15:37.07 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, software para ronjas |
| 15:37.07 | sinplomo | http://twiki.twibright.com/bin/view/Main/RonjaSetupHints |
| 15:37.17 | Thanatermesis | toma ya ! ;) |
| 15:37.26 | sinplomo | http://twiki.twibright.com/bin/view/Main/RonjaLoopbackTestonLinuxEn |
| 15:37.33 | Thanatermesis | ArkiMedeS, ronja es lo que te comente de las conexiones por laser, vamos a ver si lo incluimos en Elive ;) |
| 15:37.48 | ArkiMedeS | pero eso kien lo usa tio |
| 15:37.49 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DD |
| 15:38.01 | sinplomo | http://ronja.twibright.com/ |
| 15:38.11 | sinplomo | ArkiMedeS, es MUY popular en europa del este |
| 15:38.19 | sinplomo | y en rep. checa no veas |
| 15:38.28 | sinplomo | creo que hay unos pocos en espana |
| 15:38.28 | ArkiMedeS | ah vale cm yo soy de africa del norte |
| 15:38.29 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDDD |
| 15:38.47 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, cuanta distancia pilla es ? |
| 15:39.04 | Thanatermesis | 1.4 kilometros |
| 15:39.13 | Thanatermesis | ArkiMedeS, a partir de ahora con Elive mucha gente ;) xD |
| 15:39.37 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DD |
| 15:39.38 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, pero necesitamos pillarnos una ronja tio |
| 15:40.03 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, ahora mismo tengo TANTO curro con mil cosas a la vez que creo que te voy a dejar a ti encargarte de empaquetarlos (si es que te gustaria hacerlo..) |
| 15:40.13 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, a ver si no me equivoco, es para montarse redes, no ? |
| 15:40.16 | ArkiMedeS | 4«2T14h1a2n14a1t2e14r1m2e14s1i2s4» pillate un ronja con amplificador y hacemos una red punto-punto tu y yo |
| 15:40.16 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDD |
| 15:40.18 | sinplomo | redes inalambricas |
| 15:40.28 | sinplomo | ArkiMedeS, yo estoy mas cerca !! |
| 15:40.33 | ArkiMedeS | belgica y melilla unidas por wifi |
| 15:40.33 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDD |
| 15:40.42 | sinplomo | es laser |
| 15:40.43 | sinplomo | XD |
| 15:40.46 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, si tuviera tiempo estaria encantado de montarme uno :) creo que no habra mas remedio que dejar un anuncio en el topic del canal y que la gente pruebe Elive en su proxima version testeandolo con sus ronjas ;) |
| 15:41.05 | ArkiMedeS | 4«2T14h1a2n14a1t2e14r1m2e14s1i2s4» pero si estas tol dia conectao no cuentes politicas |
| 15:41.05 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDD |
| 15:41.15 | sinplomo | XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd |
| 15:41.16 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, es para montarte una red in-alambrica por luz , un led enfocado de alta potencia que llega a 1.4 kilometros , la gente dice que funciona muy bien |
| 15:41.39 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, pero ahora viene, lo bueno, y yo pa que quiero eso ? |
| 15:41.40 | sinplomo | XD |
| 15:41.48 | sinplomo | hummm |
| 15:41.49 | sinplomo | no |
| 15:41.59 | ArkiMedeS | pero q te pillas un punto de acceso y una antenita externa |
| 15:42.04 | sinplomo | gs, a ver, pillamos un edificio, y una buena conexion a inet |
| 15:42.08 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, tu no, pero es para que la gente que quiera usar ronjas tengan un liveCD con el soft preparado ;) |
| 15:42.12 | ArkiMedeS | y enganchas de 4 a 6 kilometros sin problema |
| 15:42.12 | Thanatermesis | seria unico |
| 15:42.17 | sinplomo | y repartimos inet por toda la ciudad instalndo ronjas |
| 15:42.19 | sinplomo | ^^ |
| 15:42.22 | Thanatermesis | y atraeria a mucha gente a usar Elive sinplomo ;) |
| 15:42.30 | sinplomo | claro |
| 15:42.30 | sinplomo | XD |
| 15:42.47 | ArkiMedeS | na lo añadiran de rapidez en auditor o whax |
| 15:42.50 | ArkiMedeS | y seguiran usandose |
| 15:42.51 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDD |
| 15:42.59 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDDD |
| 15:43.04 | Thanatermesis | :P |
| 15:43.10 | Thanatermesis | no creo ni que lo conozcan |
| 15:43.16 | Thanatermesis | me da igual, me gustaria incluirlo |
| 15:43.35 | Thanatermesis | si sinplomo quiere hacer los paquetes perfecto (para una vez que le dejo xDDD) sino, lo guardare como link y cuando tenga tiempo me ocupo |
| 15:43.44 | ArkiMedeS | sam eso es cm comprarse un coche anfibio pa rular por madrid |
| 15:43.48 | ArkiMedeS | tio sino hay mar alli |
| 15:43.48 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDD |
| 15:44.12 | Thanatermesis | a ver |
| 15:44.15 | Thanatermesis | vuelvo a explicar |
| 15:44.22 | gs | sinplomo, ke son ronjas? |
| 15:44.24 | Thanatermesis | la gente que tengan ronjas, tendran un liveCD con todo listo ;) |
| 15:44.41 | Thanatermesis | gs, conexion inalambrica por luz con distancias de 1.4 km |
| 15:44.53 | gs | por luz? |
| 15:44.53 | gs | xD |
| 15:44.58 | sinplomo | ArkiMedeS, XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 15:45.02 | Thanatermesis | un proyecto GPL de hardware :) |
| 15:45.14 | ArkiMedeS | 4«2T14h1a2n14a1t2e14r1m2e14s1i2s4» has metido hostap en elive o no? |
| 15:45.15 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, en las ronjas el software es casi todo |
| 15:45.16 | gs | tienes la url? |
| 15:45.30 | sinplomo | gs, oficial website |
| 15:45.33 | sinplomo | http://ronja.twibright.com/ |
| 15:45.56 | Thanatermesis | ArkiMedeS, no, espera que lo apunto a la lista "TODO" |
| 15:46.01 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, igual que si tienen una webcam spca5xx ;) |
| 15:46.29 | sinplomo | los noobs pasaran de compilarlo, asi que instalan elive en el HD y fuera |
| 15:46.39 | Thanatermesis | ArkiMedeS, http://livecd.debianitas.net/todo.html |
| 15:46.44 | sinplomo | creo que les va a gustar eso en #spca50x |
| 15:47.13 | Thanatermesis | espera ArkiMedeS que no manda... xD |
| 15:47.28 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, pues eso ;) |
| 15:47.42 | ArkiMedeS | sam hay unos scripts muy wapos en auditor |
| 15:47.50 | ArkiMedeS | podrias meterselos a elive |
| 15:47.54 | sinplomo | Agregar openoffice 2 desde el repo de experimental de debian (atento a la actualizacion o no de libc6) <= explicate |
| 15:48.13 | sinplomo | drivers de mas de 200 webcams <= sta hecho ;) |
| 15:48.22 | Thanatermesis | ArkiMedeS, tengo tantas cosas por hacer... xD |
| 15:48.30 | Thanatermesis | aunque si quieres extraerlos no creo que haya problema |
| 15:48.38 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDD |
| 15:48.41 | Thanatermesis | ArkiMedeS, recarga la pagina y mira la ultima linea |
| 15:49.02 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDDDDDDDD |
| 15:49.03 | sinplomo | driver para modems usb speechtouch <= te lo puedo hacer pero vas a violar unas dos licencias, y puede que conozcas los abogados de Alcatel |
| 15:49.10 | ArkiMedeS | quiero un hijo tuyo |
| 15:49.12 | ArkiMedeS | hazmeloooooooooooo!! |
| 15:49.14 | ArkiMedeS | 12x14DDDD |
| 15:49.35 | sinplomo | de que es el hostap ? |
| 15:49.36 | Thanatermesis | xDD |
| 15:49.43 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, GCC y UNZIP IMPORTANTES XD |
| 15:49.52 | Thanatermesis | estan |
| 15:49.58 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, driver para modems usb speechtouch <= te lo puedo hacer pero vas a violar unas dos licencias, y puede que conozcas los abogados de Alcatel |
| 15:50.07 | Thanatermesis | aunque gcc lo tendre que poner en el sistema final, no en el base.. |
| 15:50.18 | Thanatermesis | bueno si... espera |
| 15:51.17 | sinplomo | asi que una de dos, o te arriegas como los de kaella ( que llevan varios a~nos haciendo eso y no les ha pasao nada de momento ) o te quedas sin speedtouch rulando de manera auto |
| 15:52.45 | Thanatermesis | gcc añadido |
| 15:53.02 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, sabes lo bueno |
| 15:53.15 | sinplomo | mira como se pone a la ronja rulando en una knoppix |
| 15:53.19 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, haz un paquete con un speedtouch funcional final ;) |
| 15:53.23 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.25 | sinplomo | When you are loading module, add parametrs options and full_duplex. For example with module for NIC 3c590: |
| 15:53.27 | sinplomo | Pri nahravani modulu sitoveho rozhrani pouzijte parametry options a full_duplex. Priklad pro sitovkou kartu 3c509: |
| 15:53.30 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.32 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.40 | Thanatermesis | si sinplomo |
| 15:53.41 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, y te crea la ronja como ethX |
| 15:53.42 | Thanatermesis | pero de todas formas |
| 15:53.49 | Thanatermesis | ahora no tengo tiempo para ocuparme de ronja |
| 15:53.54 | sinplomo | y luego solo es configurar una tarjeta de red |
| 15:53.59 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no tienes porque |
| 15:53.59 | sinplomo | XD |
| 15:54.01 | Thanatermesis | hay que terminar 0.2 YA |
| 15:54.12 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, te arriegas con lo de speedtouch ? |
| 15:54.14 | sinplomo | de PM |
| 15:54.18 | sinplomo | asi me gusta la gente |
| 15:54.19 | sinplomo | XD |
| 15:54.27 | sinplomo | a meternosen lios legales |
| 15:54.27 | sinplomo | XD |
| 15:54.29 | Thanatermesis | si, hazmelo y lo probamos en la version pre-final ;) |
| 15:54.42 | Thanatermesis | eso si, lo vas a tener que probar tu que para eso tienes el cacharro |
| 15:54.43 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 15:54.51 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, legales ? |
| 15:54.58 | sinplomo | aro |
| 15:55.06 | sinplomo | eso para por no leerme BIEN |
| 15:55.07 | Thanatermesis | a ver, si bajas el firmware a peticion del usuario con una advertencia es legal |
| 15:55.12 | Thanatermesis | es ilegal hacerlo automatizado |
| 15:55.22 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, como lo vas a bajar si no estas conectao a inet |
| 15:55.26 | sinplomo | gilipollas |
| 15:55.33 | sinplomo | para algo lanzara el script, no ? |
| 15:55.56 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh... |
| 15:56.07 | Thanatermesis | habria que informarse |
| 15:56.17 | Thanatermesis | se podria encriptar los firmwares como uso "personal" |
| 15:56.29 | Thanatermesis | y si el usuario los quiere usar, que los desencripte |
| 15:56.40 | Thanatermesis | eso si, aun asi hay que mirar si eso es legal o no... |
| 15:57.14 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, entonces, tengo dos opciones, o cojer el deb ya hecho y sin firmware y meterselo |
| 15:57.34 | sinplomo | aunque es como, da mas problemas y es mas dificil de configurar |
| 15:57.48 | sinplomo | o usar otro, no esta empaquetao ni nada |
| 15:57.56 | sinplomo | y tocarlo |
| 15:58.01 | sinplomo | y funciona mejor |
| 15:58.05 | sinplomo | y sin complicaciones |
| 15:58.15 | sinplomo | eso si, me tendras que dar cierta info sobre el kernel |
| 15:58.20 | Thanatermesis | primero: mirar si es posible legalmente |
| 15:58.26 | Thanatermesis | segundo: hacerlo |
| 15:58.27 | Thanatermesis | ;) |
| 15:58.32 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, me voy a meter en #speedtouch |
| 15:58.35 | Thanatermesis | no problem |
| 15:58.42 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 15:58.51 | sinplomo | si encuentro a benoit ( el autor del driver original ) parlare con el |
| 15:58.58 | sinplomo | pero te aseguro que no esnada legal |
| 16:02.11 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, una feature interesante para elive |
| 16:02.12 | sinplomo | http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=05/07/19/1023222 |
| 16:03.06 | Thanatermesis | ok, lo mejor es hablar con el que esta mas metido en el tema ;) |
| 16:03.42 | Thanatermesis | creo que es posible ese feature, es cuestion de probarlo |
| 16:03.48 | Thanatermesis | creo que esta incluido vaya |
| 16:04.39 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, una preguntilla |
| 16:04.45 | sinplomo | que es eso de OOo2 ? |
| 16:05.25 | sinplomo | y libc6 ? |
| 16:13.19 | Thanatermesis | OO2 es openoffice 2 |
| 16:13.33 | Thanatermesis | libc6, has visto eso en el TODO ? que ponia exactamente? |
| 16:14.13 | Thanatermesis | creo que era para quitar la dependencia de libc6 para la gente que instale los paquetes en ubuntus y cosas de esas, libc6 es la base de que todo funcione en linux, lo que hace que las cosas se puedan ejecutar y tal.. |
| 16:14.24 | Thanatermesis | una especie de conexion entre el SO y el kernel |
| 16:17.10 | sinplomo | y como piensas quitarlo ? |
| 16:17.20 | sinplomo | OOo2 depende de libc6, no ? |
| 16:17.24 | sinplomo | por algoa sera |
| 16:17.31 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, apt busca en google ? |
| 16:17.41 | sinplomo | apt, google hola |
| 16:17.57 | sinplomo | apt, sexy bot |
| 16:21.53 | Thanatermesis | apt, search sinplomo |
| 16:22.10 | Thanatermesis | apt, hi |
| 16:22.11 | apt | hello, thanatermesis |
| 16:22.21 | Thanatermesis | hello apt , you search in google ? |
| 16:22.24 | Thanatermesis | apt, you search in google ? |
| 16:22.28 | Thanatermesis | apt, google ? |
| 16:22.33 | Thanatermesis | apt, google search ? |
| 16:22.38 | Thanatermesis | apt, google ! |
| 16:22.50 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, todo depende de libc6 |
| 16:23.07 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no hagas cosas raras .. |
| 16:23.30 | sinplomo | bueno, Thanatermesis actualizaciones de security en etch, tiene algun sentido eso ? |
| 16:25.18 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, no te preocupes ;) |
| 16:26.03 | Thanatermesis | no se muy bien como funcionan las actualizaciones de seguridad de etch0 ni de estable ni de ninguna... pero si te informas no iria mal para incluirlas en Elive ya que ahora sera una etch ;) |
| 16:27.07 | sinplomo | si aparece Utopic me lo explicara o Heimy mismo |
| 16:27.43 | Thanatermesis | apunta mas por heimy ;) |
| 16:28.01 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, como funciona el jumpnbump ? |
| 16:28.27 | sinplomo | ups |
| 16:28.28 | sinplomo | nada |
| 16:28.29 | sinplomo | XD |
| 16:31.15 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:31.32 | Thanatermesis | voy a probar el e16keyedit... |
| 16:35.08 | Thanatermesis | '--==(~/.e16)==--> cat e_config.bindings | grep urxvt |
| 16:35.08 | Thanatermesis | KeyDown CA o urxvt |
| 16:35.12 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, eso no es correcto |
| 16:35.17 | sinplomo | sinplomo hi |
| 16:35.17 | sinplomo | sinplomo it's legal to include speedtouch firmware in a linux distro ? |
| 16:35.26 | sinplomo | Md sinplomo: no, but nobody will care |
| 16:35.43 | Thanatermesis | tendria que ir antes del comando urxvt la palabra "exec" |
| 16:35.45 | Thanatermesis | eso ya es un bug |
| 16:35.50 | Thanatermesis | por el resto funciona bien :) |
| 16:35.54 | Thanatermesis | ya es un a novedad ;) |
| 16:36.56 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, echas una partida de jumpnbump ? |
| 16:37.02 | Thanatermesis | ~x en es no, but nobody will care |
| 16:37.23 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, nadie le importara |
| 16:37.24 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, a) creo que no se puede jugar en red, b) yo no se tu pero yo tengo mucho curro... |
| 16:37.36 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, era co~na |
| 16:37.36 | Thanatermesis | ademas, en 2 dias viene mi novia y a esta no le gusta que este todo el dia delante del ordeandor |
| 16:37.37 | sinplomo | ;) |
| 16:37.44 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, normal tio |
| 16:37.57 | Thanatermesis | Elive ya esta en distrowatch con una version de mierda que a todo el mundo le gusta menos a mi, y como a mi no me gusta... :) |
| 16:37.58 | sinplomo | le tiene Nvidia a tu maquia |
| 16:37.59 | sinplomo | XD |
| 16:37.59 | Thanatermesis | a currar ;) |
| 16:38.26 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, pues si nadie le importa, vamos a meterlo ;) |
| 16:38.28 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, atiende a heimy |
| 16:38.31 | sinplomo | okis |
| 16:38.33 | sinplomo | hecho |
| 16:39.40 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, en distrowathc |
| 16:39.51 | sinplomo | cuentas las visitas a tu distro |
| 16:40.01 | sinplomo | en la web de distrowatch |
| 16:40.02 | sinplomo | entiendes , |
| 16:40.50 | Thanatermesis | si, pero no se como se hace... |
| 16:40.52 | Thanatermesis | voy a ver si lo veo |
| 16:42.35 | sinplomo | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=elive |
| 16:43.36 | Thanatermesis | la lista de packages esta muy mal echa |
| 16:44.00 | sinplomo | demasié |
| 16:44.17 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, conoces juegos que van en framebuffer ? |
| 16:44.39 | Thanatermesis | quien se encarga de eso? habria un par de cosas a modificar... |
| 16:44.41 | Thanatermesis | no sinplomo |
| 16:44.59 | sinplomo | execpto jumpnbump, no ? xP |
| 16:45.49 | sinplomo | como quieres que instale OOo2 si da este error |
| 16:45.50 | sinplomo | openoffice.org2-base: |
| 16:45.50 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.50 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.12 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh... |
| 16:47.46 | sinplomo | asi que a tomar por culo eso |
| 16:47.53 | sinplomo | instalo los paquetes de Mario |
| 16:47.57 | sinplomo | que no piden nada de esa mierda |
| 16:48.02 | sinplomo | y van muy bien |
| 16:48.12 | sinplomo | ya que estan compilados en sarge o etch |
| 16:50.48 | sinplomo | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/soleup/ soleupix openoffice main java games |
| 16:50.51 | sinplomo | ahi va Thanatermesis |
| 16:51.41 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, |
| 16:51.47 | Thanatermesis | deja SOLO openoffice |
| 16:51.54 | Thanatermesis | quita soleupix, main java y games |
| 16:51.57 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, bueno |
| 16:52.01 | Thanatermesis | para asegurarnos que funcione ;) |
| 16:52.05 | sinplomo | yo instalo OOo y descomento |
| 16:52.11 | sinplomo | y no es la primera vez que lo instalo |
| 16:52.14 | Thanatermesis | ademas, si instala cosas "nuevas" luego te puedes joder de nuevo el sistema |
| 16:52.14 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 16:52.32 | Thanatermesis | si si, pero dejando solo la palabra openoffice despues de la direccion |
| 16:52.59 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, mmm |
| 16:53.08 | sinplomo | bah |
| 16:53.10 | sinplomo | se lo que hago |
| 16:53.10 | Thanatermesis | si instalas paquetes iguales que los de debian con nueva version "version-soleupix1" se te puede joder a la larga el apt |
| 16:53.42 | Thanatermesis | ya que la version nueva de soleupix requerira una version nueva de otro que cuando descomentes la linea de soleupix no encontrara en debian y pum... |
| 16:53.45 | Thanatermesis | a tomar por culo ;) |
| 16:54.18 | Thanatermesis | porque la version del de debian seria inferior a la de soleupix y no encontrara candidato para la instalacion... |
| 16:54.25 | Thanatermesis | y todas esas lineas que ya conocemos sinplomo ;) |
| 16:54.50 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no ... los hizo para debian |
| 16:54.59 | sinplomo | y no llevan de nombre soleupix |
| 16:55.03 | sinplomo | y son 300 MB |
| 16:55.06 | sinplomo | DIOS ! |
| 16:55.23 | Thanatermesis | no me has entendido |
| 16:55.29 | Thanatermesis | pero haz lo que quieras |
| 16:55.43 | Thanatermesis | solo te recomiendo que en esa linea de tu sources.list solo dejes la palabra openoffice |
| 16:55.49 | Thanatermesis | ni games ni java ni main ni nada |
| 16:55.53 | sinplomo | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/soleup/ openoffice |
| 16:55.56 | sinplomo | y asi hare |
| 16:55.57 | Thanatermesis | eso ;) |
| 16:56.02 | sinplomo | y me dice que esta aml |
| 16:56.03 | Thanatermesis | de todas formas es lo unico que necesitas ;) |
| 16:56.12 | Thanatermesis | espera... |
| 16:56.37 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, falta el soleupix |
| 16:56.42 | sinplomo | tienes que meter eso |
| 16:56.55 | Thanatermesis | ves? ya requiere cosas... |
| 16:57.04 | sinplomo | no |
| 16:57.13 | sinplomo | E: LÃnea 25 mal formada en lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list (análisis de dist) |
| 16:57.15 | sinplomo | lee :P |
| 16:57.25 | Thanatermesis | espera |
| 16:57.48 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, y si pones solo un espacio en vez de dos y quitas el ultimo / de la direccion ? |
| 16:58.00 | Thanatermesis | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/soleup openoffice |
| 16:58.03 | sinplomo | espera ... |
| 16:58.20 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, porque no dejas solo la linea de security ? |
| 16:58.24 | sinplomo | y el resto descomentao |
| 16:58.25 | Thanatermesis | no, no se puede |
| 16:58.44 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, porque la gente quizas quieran hacer upgrades... |
| 16:58.54 | Thanatermesis | aunque seria mejor si, es problema suyo hacer upgrades |
| 16:59.03 | Thanatermesis | ademas pueden joder el sistema en si si upgradeas cosas |
| 16:59.08 | Thanatermesis | eso se vera con el tiempo |
| 16:59.16 | Thanatermesis | ok, se dejara solo upgrades ;) |
| 16:59.19 | sinplomo | deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/soleup openoffice main |
| 16:59.42 | sinplomo | tmp va |
| 16:59.45 | sinplomo | me cago en la puta |
| 17:00.44 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no es excesivo el tamano ? |
| 17:00.48 | Thanatermesis | gs, sinplomo hay alguna forma de entrar en una pagina http que no te cargue el html predereminado=? (index.html) |
| 17:00.57 | sinplomo | + o - 350 MB |
| 17:01.11 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, no, es lo normal, aunque deberia de ser mas bien 200 |
| 17:01.29 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, y donde va a caber el resto de tu soft ? |
| 17:01.38 | sinplomo | joder, se me ha olvidao que se comprimia todo |
| 17:01.38 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, me puedes puedes pastear todo lo que quiere instalar y upgradear en www.pastebin.com ? |
| 17:01.39 | sinplomo | XD |
| 17:01.47 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, donde ? |
| 17:01.48 | Thanatermesis | si ;) |
| 17:01.56 | Thanatermesis | ya veremos como acaba todo por el tamaño... |
| 17:02.03 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, donde ? |
| 17:02.10 | Thanatermesis | donde que ? |
| 17:02.43 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis sinplomo, me puedes puedes pastear todo lo que quiere instalar y upgradear en www.pastebin.com ? <= DE QUE ? DONDE ? COMO ? |
| 17:03.14 | Thanatermesis | cuando haces apt-get install openoffice2, que me lo pastees todo alli |
| 17:03.23 | Thanatermesis | quiero ver con detalle que paquetes pide y actualiza |
| 17:05.24 | sinplomo | o sease la suite completa no ? |
| 17:05.41 | sinplomo | o solo la bse |
| 17:06.01 | Thanatermesis | todo lo que te da cuando haces el apt-get install |
| 17:08.59 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no pida naada |
| 17:09.57 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, es bueno el cinelarra , |
| 17:09.59 | sinplomo | ? |
| 17:10.13 | Thanatermesis | era muy malo, inestable y petaba por todos lados |
| 17:10.17 | Thanatermesis | no sabias ni abrir un fichero |
| 17:10.34 | Thanatermesis | pero era la mejor solucion libre a programas de edicion de video PROFESIONAL |
| 17:10.45 | Thanatermesis | hace tiempo retomaron el proyecto arreglandolo todo |
| 17:10.57 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, bueno, pero ahora cual es el mejor ? |
| 17:11.06 | Thanatermesis | le han hecho un monton de modificaciones y curran en el para mejorarlo y quitarle bugs |
| 17:11.13 | Thanatermesis | estoy seguro que ahora mismo debe de ir muy bien... |
| 17:11.25 | Thanatermesis | cinelerra, pruebalo ;) www.cinelerra.org |
| 17:11.28 | Thanatermesis | hay paquetes debian ;) |
| 17:11.32 | Thanatermesis | espera, tengo el repo si lo quieres |
| 17:11.55 | Thanatermesis | pero antes de instalarlo sinplomo necesitaria la lista esa (para que no ponga cosas de mas y que no habian...) |
| 17:14.21 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, OOo2 SOLO pide cosas de OOo2 ! |
| 17:14.39 | Thanatermesis | ya, pero quiero verlo ;) |
| 17:14.45 | Thanatermesis | no es que no te crea |
| 17:14.52 | Thanatermesis | es que quiero ver las cosas que mete y tal |
| 17:15.07 | Thanatermesis | a ver si se podria modificar o algo mas ligero y cosas asi para elive... |
| 17:15.32 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, maximiza la terminal al maximo y haces el apt-get install, antes de decirle que si lo pillas todo con el mouse y me lo pasteas en www.pastebin.com |
| 17:17.09 | sinplomo | joder |
| 17:17.10 | sinplomo | que pesao |
| 17:18.03 | sinplomo | http://pastebin.com/316343 |
| 17:18.26 | sinplomo | eso es lo que me pidio cuando quise instalar la sute entera |
| 17:19.01 | Thanatermesis | gracias :) |
| 17:19.14 | Thanatermesis | cuando acabes y te quieras instalar el cinelerra avisa ;) |
| 17:19.31 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, eso que coño es? o_O |
| 17:20.23 | Thanatermesis | http://pastebin.com/316344 <---- yo necesito algo asi sinplomo |
| 17:20.33 | Thanatermesis | todo eso |
| 17:21.46 | sinplomo | eso es de synaptic |
| 17:21.50 | sinplomo | y es lo mismo |
| 17:22.14 | Thanatermesis | :/ |
| 17:22.18 | Thanatermesis | eso no me sirve de nada |
| 17:22.24 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, cortalo y haz apt-get install |
| 17:22.38 | Thanatermesis | no te preocupes, todo lo que a bajado INCLUSO los ficheros cortados a medias los continua ;) |
| 17:22.41 | Thanatermesis | apt-get power ! |
| 17:23.16 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (~Elive_use@umd111-11.d.umn.edu) |
| 17:23.16 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 17:23.27 | Elive_user | -nic-k |
| 17:24.04 | Elive_user | doh! sorry ... keymap must be funky, i am on a us kb, question and slash yields -_ and hyphen is ' ... sorry |
| 17:24.18 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh... |
| 17:24.27 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user, you use 0.1 or 0.2 version ? |
| 17:25.13 | Elive_user | i am on 0.1? i don't see a 0.2 on the site |
| 17:27.15 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 17:27.28 | Thanatermesis | the 0.2 only have "showed" 2-3 days... |
| 17:27.39 | Thanatermesis | 0.2-developers not are a good version for the final user |
| 17:27.45 | Elive_user | ah ok, fair enough |
| 17:27.51 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user, you need to put in the boot this line: |
| 17:27.54 | Thanatermesis | lang=es |
| 17:27.55 | Thanatermesis | lang=fr |
| 17:27.56 | Thanatermesis | etc |
| 17:28.02 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 17:28.03 | Elive_user | ah ok, cool ... thanks! |
| 17:28.05 | Thanatermesis | knoppix lang=fr |
| 17:28.06 | Elive_user | lang?en |
| 17:28.06 | Thanatermesis | ;) |
| 17:28.10 | Elive_user | k |
| 17:28.21 | Thanatermesis | with the knoppix word before |
| 17:28.21 | Elive_user | looks like it is using an es mapping now |
| 17:28.30 | Elive_user | with the n'yays ? |
| 17:28.32 | Elive_user | mmhmm |
| 17:28.34 | Elive_user | soudns good |
| 17:28.37 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, you are using ES mapping ? |
| 17:28.49 | Elive_user | it looks like it is |
| 17:28.54 | Elive_user | i didn tell it to use any mapping |
| 17:29.00 | Thanatermesis | Shift + 0 |
| 17:29.04 | Elive_user | i am just guessing from the available charachters |
| 17:29.04 | Thanatermesis | make this |
| 17:29.07 | Elive_user | = |
| 17:29.12 | Thanatermesis | yes, spanish |
| 17:29.12 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 17:29.22 | Elive_user | ?= |
| 17:29.26 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, no hace falta rebootear |
| 17:29.27 | Thanatermesis | knoppix lang=en <-- in the boot ;) |
| 17:29.27 | Elive_user | that was supposed to be a smiley ... heh |
| 17:29.33 | Elive_user | soudns good Thanatermesis |
| 17:29.38 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, mas facil ;) |
| 17:29.49 | sinplomo | Elive_user, do that in an Eterm |
| 17:29.51 | sinplomo | setxkbmap us |
| 17:30.33 | Thanatermesis | if you put this in the boot, all system are in EN ;) |
| 17:30.40 | Thanatermesis | (from my memory) |
| 17:30.53 | sinplomo | Elive_user, to set the keyboerd map from es to us |
| 17:31.03 | sinplomo | do that setxkbmap us |
| 17:31.24 | Thanatermesis | y el xchat sinplomo ? ;) |
| 17:31.54 | Thanatermesis | bueno, el idioma en general, los mensajes y todo ;) |
| 17:32.04 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, ves como lo de distrowatch esta haciendo efecto? xD |
| 17:32.15 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user, you have looked Elive in distrowatch ? |
| 17:33.01 | *** join/#elive mchasard (~root@glg95-1-82-233-5-66.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:33.09 | Elive_user | ah, yay! |
| 17:33.13 | Elive_user | thanks sinplomo |
| 17:33.16 | mchasard | hi |
| 17:33.20 | Elive_user | i'll bbiab ... gotta go get lunch before they close |
| 17:33.43 | rev-elive | how do i restart the os-x-like dock? |
| 17:33.45 | rev-elive | it quit on me |
| 17:36.10 | mchasard | how is your development now ? for the next elive version based on morphix ? |
| 17:36.12 | sinplomo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.25 | Thanatermesis | yes mchasard |
| 17:36.37 | Thanatermesis | rev-elive, Control-Alt-End |
| 17:39.02 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, algo que agregar en http://livecd.debianitas.net/todo.html ? |
| 17:39.07 | Thanatermesis | (ultimas lineas) |
| 17:41.40 | Thanatermesis | si que te instala core* sinplomo .... |
| 17:41.46 | sinplomo | encontrar alguien bueno con el gimp |
| 17:41.54 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, eso es OOo2 |
| 17:41.55 | sinplomo | entero |
| 17:41.59 | sinplomo | la suite entera |
| 17:42.02 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, hasciicam | col -b 1> hola |
| 17:42.03 | Thanatermesis | ok, gracias |
| 17:42.11 | sinplomo | que hay de mal en ese tuberia ? |
| 17:42.35 | Thanatermesis | que quieres hacer ? |
| 17:42.48 | Thanatermesis | !! error in opening video capture device: : No such device |
| 17:42.51 | Thanatermesis | no tengo cam |
| 17:42.59 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, a mi me tira errores |
| 17:43.07 | sinplomo | quiero volcar eso es un file |
| 17:47.00 | Thanatermesis | puf |
| 17:47.01 | Thanatermesis | ni idea |
| 17:47.10 | Thanatermesis | prueba de separar el 1 del > |
| 17:52.10 | Thanatermesis | o_O |
| 17:52.25 | sinplomo | no va |
| 17:52.29 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, borra el archivo anterior |
| 17:52.30 | sinplomo | le doy a aceptar y nada |
| 17:52.32 | Thanatermesis | se quedo a medias |
| 17:52.35 | sinplomo | hecho |
| 17:52.38 | Thanatermesis | como es distinto no cuela el resume |
| 17:52.42 | sinplomo | repite |
| 17:53.03 | Thanatermesis | e retocado el codigo fuente y e echo mi primer patch !!!!! :D |
| 17:54.21 | sinplomo | y no ( me ) funciona |
| 17:54.57 | Thanatermesis | a mi este me da un segfault :S |
| 17:54.59 | Thanatermesis | a ver a ti... |
| 17:55.08 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, como que no te funciona ? que hace ? |
| 17:55.22 | sinplomo | los mismo sintomas que el anterior |
| 17:55.27 | Thanatermesis | cuales eran ? |
| 17:55.31 | Thanatermesis | no recuerdo ahora |
| 17:55.34 | sinplomo | besugo |
| 17:55.35 | Thanatermesis | (besugo) xD |
| 17:55.36 | sinplomo | XD |
| 17:55.43 | sinplomo | no guardaba la conf |
| 17:55.49 | Thanatermesis | no ? |
| 17:55.50 | Thanatermesis | a mi si |
| 17:56.00 | sinplomo | a mi no |
| 17:56.17 | Thanatermesis | bueno, estas seguro que no la guarda? mira la ultima linea de .e16/e_config.bindings |
| 17:56.19 | sinplomo | Violación de segmento \n |
| 17:56.27 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 17:56.32 | Thanatermesis | pues que mierda |
| 17:56.38 | Thanatermesis | y el strace no muestra nada.... |
| 17:56.54 | sinplomo | nop |
| 17:56.57 | *** part/#elive mchasard (~root@glg95-1-82-233-5-66.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:56.57 | Thanatermesis | cuando venga el dev de e16 va a flipar con el curro que hay para el xD |
| 17:57.00 | sinplomo | no me guarda NADA |
| 17:57.07 | sinplomo | xDD |
| 17:57.11 | Thanatermesis | que raro, a mi si |
| 17:57.25 | sinplomo | a ver si pusiste el home mal |
| 17:57.30 | sinplomo | o me pasaste una version equivocada |
| 17:57.31 | sinplomo | xD |
| 17:57.36 | Thanatermesis | no no |
| 17:57.38 | Thanatermesis | es la buena |
| 17:57.46 | Thanatermesis | el home no lo e retocado |
| 17:57.50 | Thanatermesis | el home esta bien |
| 17:57.55 | Thanatermesis | es que a mi me funciona vamos |
| 17:58.05 | Thanatermesis | te lo tiene que guardar en : |
| 17:58.15 | Thanatermesis | ~/.e16/e_config.bindings |
| 17:58.23 | Thanatermesis | a menos que lo hayas lanzado como root |
| 17:58.23 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 17:58.40 | sinplomo | tan gilipollas no llego a ser |
| 17:59.42 | Thanatermesis | ya ya |
| 17:59.45 | Thanatermesis | me lo supongo |
| 17:59.55 | Thanatermesis | aunque a veces yo cometo esos errores sin darme cuenta |
| 18:00.02 | Thanatermesis | me estas llamando gilipollas ? |
| 18:00.03 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:00.32 | Thanatermesis | no tiene logica, tendria que funcionar y a mi me funciona |
| 18:00.41 | sinplomo | y a mi no |
| 18:00.41 | Thanatermesis | vamos a ver sinplomo , haz lo que yo te diga... |
| 18:00.42 | sinplomo | asi de simple |
| 18:00.43 | Thanatermesis | mira |
| 18:00.52 | Thanatermesis | abrelo |
| 18:01.01 | Thanatermesis | pones New Keybinding |
| 18:01.05 | Thanatermesis | Key: o |
| 18:01.16 | Thanatermesis | Modifier Control-Alt |
| 18:01.23 | Thanatermesis | Action used: (el primero de todos) |
| 18:01.31 | Thanatermesis | y le metes en Parameters: xmms |
| 18:01.42 | Thanatermesis | guardas, reinicias E y miras si te tira |
| 18:02.11 | sinplomo | si |
| 18:02.16 | sinplomo | XD |
| 18:03.06 | Thanatermesis | ves? ;) |
| 18:03.12 | Thanatermesis | antes no te metia el "exec " |
| 18:03.18 | Thanatermesis | asi que no lanzaba nada |
| 18:03.18 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:03.18 | sinplomo | no |
| 18:03.22 | Thanatermesis | se lo e puesto :) |
| 18:03.26 | sinplomo | antes modificaba uno que ya estaba |
| 18:03.38 | Thanatermesis | bueno... si funciona ya esta ;) |
| 18:03.47 | sinplomo | el de ctrl + alt + m para maximizar la ventana |
| 18:03.48 | sinplomo | y no va |
| 18:04.21 | sinplomo | que bien |
| 18:04.30 | sinplomo | lanzar la Aterm con alt + a |
| 18:05.15 | Thanatermesis | ;) |
| 18:05.21 | Thanatermesis | yo siempre e trabajado asi ;) |
| 18:05.24 | Thanatermesis | vas mucho mas rapido |
| 18:05.38 | Thanatermesis | al mouse le estan empezando a salir telas de araña xD |
| 18:06.09 | sinplomo | XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 18:06.15 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, te puedo encomendar una mision ? |
| 18:06.16 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:06.32 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, como se mueve, maxizmiza y minimiza una ventana ? |
| 18:06.33 | sinplomo | XD |
| 18:06.37 | Thanatermesis | hay que cambiar la informacion de distrowatch, eso que han puesto es una mierda, si quieres lo hago yo, pero tengo que saber como se hace |
| 18:06.52 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, tienes que enviarles un mail |
| 18:06.54 | sinplomo | o algo asi |
| 18:07.09 | sinplomo | no tengo ni idea de como funciona algo que pone a Ubuntu en pirmer lugar |
| 18:07.13 | sinplomo | y Debian en el quinto |
| 18:07.23 | Thanatermesis | yo tenia control-alt-arriba para maximizar, mover nose... es cuestion de comerte los ejemplos o la doc, aunque yo siempre las e movido con el mouse, haces mejor punteria ;) |
| 18:07.53 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, son los votos de la gente, que le vas a hacer? ;) me puedes mirar lo del mail? :) |
| 18:08.12 | Thanatermesis | voy a mandar mi patch al mailing-list de E |
| 18:08.13 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:08.22 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, por cierto |
| 18:08.35 | sinplomo | el HIJODEPUTA del dev de erss ni me ha dao las gracias |
| 18:08.43 | sinplomo | y no si se ha metido eso en el CVS |
| 18:09.37 | sinplomo | Y EL HIJOPUTA DE EMPAQUETADOR DEL APT-FILE TMP |
| 18:09.44 | sinplomo | por decirle que se le olvido curl |
| 18:09.51 | Thanatermesis | si quieres te lo miro si esta en el CVS xD |
| 18:09.56 | Thanatermesis | alomejor esta de vacaciones ;) |
| 18:10.13 | sinplomo | no, si asi es como se anima a la gente a colaborar en el Open Source |
| 18:10.15 | sinplomo | ... |
| 18:10.16 | sinplomo | en fin |
| 18:10.27 | Thanatermesis | yo siempre doy las gracias :) |
| 18:10.36 | Thanatermesis | ya e respondido todos los mails de hoy ;) |
| 18:10.47 | Thanatermesis | y el que hablaba español no veas el rollo que le e soltado xD |
| 18:11.12 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (~Elive_use@dyn230-179.dsl.ligado.de) |
| 18:11.12 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 18:11.32 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, esto va a ser el caos en pocos dias, hay que ponerse las pilas xD |
| 18:11.35 | Thanatermesis | hi Elive_user |
| 18:12.06 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, me he desparto a las 8 para tener la tradu lista |
| 18:12.10 | sinplomo | no ves como estoy ahora |
| 18:12.26 | sinplomo | sudando solo |
| 18:12.38 | sinplomo | ademas con el PUTO cacam que no quiere compilarse |
| 18:12.47 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, habria que arreglar lo de distrowatch YA ya que ahora mismo esta como "nuevas distros" y es el momento que mas gente lo ve... es ahora o nunca ;) |
| 18:12.55 | Elive_user | excuse me all, is there an english language channel for this project? |
| 18:13.11 | Thanatermesis | xD gracias por la traduccion sinplomo aunque no e tenido tiempo de verla |
| 18:13.27 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, this is an english channel ;) |
| 18:13.43 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, cual es el CVS de E* |
| 18:13.53 | Thanatermesis | im only speak spanish with sinplomo and little others... |
| 18:13.57 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, entra en #elive-dev |
| 18:14.21 | sinplomo | Enterminus y Eclips ? |
| 18:14.23 | sinplomo | que es eso ? |
| 18:14.26 | stanmade | ok, i just downloaded the elive cd last night and booted it on my notebook a few minutes ago; where do you elive developers come from exactly? |
| 18:15.17 | Thanatermesis | yes stanmade |
| 18:15.39 | Thanatermesis | apt, Thanatermesis |
| 18:15.40 | apt | hmm... thanatermesis is the dealer of Elive http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org |
| 18:15.45 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:17.21 | stanmade | i have to say i am probably not the only one who downloaded this disc because they saw the pretty osx dock in the screenshots. good move! |
| 18:18.11 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes, is very beautiful ;) |
| 18:19.49 | stanmade | i am currently running this live system on a p4 notebook with 1 gb of ram, monitoring overall ram usage with top in eterm. what are the chances of getting a useful elive system on an old ibm thinkpad subnotebook with 800x600 and 128 of ram? anyone here tried it yet? |
| 18:21.17 | Thanatermesis | elive works in a 64 Mb of RAM |
| 18:21.27 | Thanatermesis | and cpu in... 120 Mhz ? |
| 18:21.49 | Thanatermesis | I need to try the next version in what are the minimal RAM need's |
| 18:21.57 | stanmade | the thinkpad 240x i am considering picking up used for 239 euros would sport a 500mhz pentium3 |
| 18:22.03 | *** join/#elive xlony (~ander@xlony.user) |
| 18:22.18 | xlony | cerdos asesinos! |
| 18:22.29 | xlony | ellos sienten el dolor, como tú y como yo! |
| 18:22.31 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, echa a este cerdo |
| 18:22.32 | sinplomo | xDDD |
| 18:22.32 | Thanatermesis | yes, in this machine works good stanmade |
| 18:22.43 | Thanatermesis | calla xlony que hay invitados xD |
| 18:22.46 | xlony | va a echar a tu madre |
| 18:22.52 | xlony | como si teneis aquí a vuestras abuelas tío |
| 18:22.53 | xlony | xd |
| 18:22.58 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 18:22.59 | xlony | quién es el invitado |
| 18:23.16 | Thanatermesis | usuarios de Elive xlony |
| 18:23.23 | xlony | oh :o |
| 18:23.27 | stanmade | thanatermesis, have you used thinkpads before? how are the keyboards and mouse pointing sticks in everyday use? |
| 18:23.34 | xlony | ese es uno |
| 18:23.57 | Thanatermesis | Im not tested in thinkpads stanmade , you only need to burn the iso and try in the machine before buy ;) |
| 18:24.52 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, the 0.1 version have a diferent base to the new versions stanmade, if you need a special configuration, Im posible to include this in next Elive version ;) |
| 18:25.34 | stanmade | you are right thana, i could just take along the cd to the store... except that the thinkpad subnotebooks with 10 and 12 inch displays didnt come with optical drives :( |
| 18:27.27 | Thanatermesis | optical drivers? what are this ? |
| 18:28.53 | stanmade | the thinkpads of 2001/2002 didnt have cd/dvd drives :) |
| 18:29.03 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, If you are interesed, I have a pre-released version in the webpage (hidden), you posible download it and try the new "autodetection of hardware" for the next versions of Elive... burn the ISO and try the 2 CD's |
| 18:29.08 | stanmade | hence, installation would have to procede from an external usb drive |
| 18:29.14 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh... |
| 18:29.34 | Thanatermesis | is posible to elive 0.2 are launched in a USB stick... |
| 18:29.56 | Thanatermesis | in any situation, not exist a problem to install the next versions in the hard-disk ;) |
| 18:30.37 | stanmade | thana, how often do you plan to release new versions of elive? are you proud that you got slashdotted? |
| 18:31.47 | Thanatermesis | what are slashdotted ? |
| 18:32.06 | Thanatermesis | www.slashdot.org ? |
| 18:32.17 | stanmade | your live cd project was officially announced in an article on slashdot.org that is where i found it |
| 18:32.28 | Thanatermesis | yes, the next versions of the release of Elive are more fast to release... |
| 18:32.40 | Thanatermesis | oh, good, Im looking :) |
| 18:33.18 | stanmade | its in the linux section at linux.slashdot.org dont tell me you didnt know that? |
| 18:33.32 | Thanatermesis | http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/18/2231249&tid=115&tid=106 |
| 18:33.33 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:33.52 | stanmade | exactly, how did they find out about it? did you give them some hints? |
| 18:34.35 | Thanatermesis | Yes, Im don't have looked this :) |
| 18:35.03 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 18:35.23 | Thanatermesis | Im don't give some hints |
| 18:36.28 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, quien lo anuncion en slashdot ? |
| 18:36.37 | sinplomo | hay que hacerlo tmb en barrapunto.com tio |
| 18:36.38 | sinplomo | XD |
| 18:36.51 | Thanatermesis | no sinplomo |
| 18:36.56 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, en slashdot XD |
| 18:37.03 | sinplomo | pero quien habra sio ? |
| 18:37.03 | sinplomo | XD |
| 18:37.06 | Thanatermesis | what elive 0.2 for barrapunto sinplomo ;) |
| 18:37.14 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, 0.3 :P |
| 18:37.29 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, lo de slashdot explica la explosion de visitores ;) |
| 18:37.37 | sinplomo | por cierto, cuantas descargas van ya ? |
| 18:37.58 | Thanatermesis | ultra-slick Debian based Enlightenment (16.7 and 17) liveCD |
| 18:38.02 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:38.10 | stanmade | sinplomo: exactly, you got it |
| 18:38.23 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, http://linux.slashdot.org/ estas en portada |
| 18:38.42 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, lo mirare cuando tenga tiempo las descargas ;) |
| 18:38.57 | Thanatermesis | :o |
| 18:39.10 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, work work work for elive 0.2 |
| 18:39.11 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 18:39.13 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, por cierto, ya se quien fue |
| 18:39.28 | sinplomo | recuerdas el que tomaba screenshots para osdir ? |
| 18:42.58 | *** join/#elive dats (~dats@33.Red-213-98-129.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:43.12 | Thanatermesis | http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=385&slide=4&title=elive+beta+0.1+screenshots |
| 18:43.13 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:43.31 | Thanatermesis | yes sinplomo , Im remember, what are the nick? |
| 18:44.25 | dats | hola and hello for the people who don't understand catalan :P |
| 18:44.25 | sinplomo | :S |
| 18:44.40 | Thanatermesis | hello dats |
| 18:44.55 | dats | xDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 18:45.10 | dats | Thanatermesis: how are u ? |
| 18:45.15 | stanmade | dats: allright, so at least now we know that you guys are from spain :) |
| 18:45.30 | dats | i speak little english |
| 18:45.35 | stanmade | are any of you immediately involved in active development of enlightenment itself |
| 18:45.52 | dats | stanmade: i don't understand you :S |
| 18:45.55 | dats | sorry |
| 18:46.16 | dats | i have a very elemental level of english :S |
| 18:46.27 | stanmade | i mean, do you do actual coding on enlightenment, or just live cd packaging and distribution? |
| 18:47.10 | sinplomo | stanmade, Thanatermesis has made patch for enlighenment appz |
| 18:47.22 | dats | i only testing e17 .... |
| 18:47.25 | sinplomo | and i reported a lot of bugs :P |
| 18:47.34 | stanmade | i just came across enlightenment.org last night, it really sounds like an interesting application development platform |
| 18:47.40 | dats | i try it and it like's me |
| 18:47.50 | dats | mmmm |
| 18:47.52 | dats | me gusta |
| 18:47.58 | dats | m'agrada l'e17 |
| 18:48.10 | stanmade | i wonder if apple would try to sue the project for copying their dock? |
| 18:49.38 | stanmade | thana, are there any efforts towards integrating enlightenment with gnome/gtk? |
| 18:50.03 | sinplomo | stanmade, e was first using dock |
| 18:50.15 | sinplomo | << It's like they tried to copy Apple but it looks like a crappy knockoff. >> |
| 18:50.19 | sinplomo | It may seem like that. But Enlightenment was first. I was using Enlightenment well before OS X first came out (and I then bought a Mac with OS X and retired my Enlightenment machine, mind you). |
| 18:50.20 | Thanatermesis | <stanmade> are any of you immediately involved in active development of enlightenment itself |
| 18:50.23 | Thanatermesis | no in this channel |
| 18:50.27 | sinplomo | But Enlightenment was excellent way back when. There are some things I still miss, like the pagers (although Expose is cool as well). |
| 18:50.33 | sinplomo | I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to assume you're talking about OS X, and not talking about OS 9 or previous systems. Because they bear absolutely no resemblance at all to Enlightenment. So if that's what you're suggesting than you're not just wrong, you're insane. |
| 18:50.38 | Thanatermesis | just create a distro called Elive ;) |
| 18:52.45 | stanmade | sinplomo, i didnt realize enlightenment was first with the dock. that would make apple the shameless plagiarists. |
| 18:53.14 | stanmade | i was of course talking about osx, having rarely used os9 ever before. did apple cop the rounded window frames from e as well? |
| 18:54.06 | Thanatermesis | its totally a diferent code :/ |
| 18:54.18 | sinplomo | stanmade, i speak about ideas |
| 18:54.31 | sinplomo | stanmade, i don't know |
| 18:55.11 | stanmade | thana, what made you chose mozilla over firefox/thunderbird/sunbird on this release? if i were to install this system, those would be the first to get replaced |
| 18:55.37 | Thanatermesis | please call all my name, if you call, one sound are played in my computer ;) |
| 18:55.57 | Thanatermesis | for the next version, mozilla are changed to a firefox |
| 18:56.03 | Thanatermesis | mozilla --> firefox |
| 18:56.23 | stanmade | you mean i should adress you as thanatermesis every time? lots of extra keys to type, but i will comply |
| 18:56.41 | stanmade | so why mozilla in version 0.1? space constraints on the iso image? |
| 19:00.45 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... my mail adress stanmade ? |
| 19:01.44 | Thanatermesis | yes, not uses KDE / GNOME, this have a lot of libs and big space, Enlightenment are very more fast, clean, stable, and light |
| 19:03.50 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (~Elive_use@a22.heikint.ton.tut.fi) |
| 19:03.51 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 19:03.53 | stanmade | i think i can really feel how quick and responsive this system is, but then again this is a 2.5ghz machine with 1gb of ram. |
| 19:04.24 | stanmade | what about your email adress, thanatermesis? i just ran across it on your site. i am on gmail too, who is not these days? ;) |
| 19:08.13 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, thanatermesis.elive AT gmail.com |
| 19:13.05 | stanmade | thanatermesis, allright, maybe i might just send some mild suggestions to you |
| 19:13.22 | Thanatermesis | ok, are welcomed :) |
| 19:13.38 | Thanatermesis | the response of the system are good stanmade |
| 19:13.56 | Thanatermesis | e16 works very good in my 360 Mhz + 64 Mb RAM machine ;) |
| 19:14.53 | stanmade | thanatermesis: what are your development machines (desktops and notebooks)? for elive? |
| 19:16.16 | Thanatermesis | my machine for make Elive is a 1400 Mhz and all creation are maked in chroot environments for a most clean system |
| 19:16.39 | Thanatermesis | the ISO's are tested in 1400 Mhz, 500 Mhz and 360 Mhz for look the optimization |
| 19:16.49 | stanmade | do you use vmware, qemu or bochs? |
| 19:17.18 | Thanatermesis | yes, vmware and qemu for the tests |
| 19:19.08 | stanmade | i wonder how enlightenment would perform on my playstation2 with 32mb or my gamecube with 40 mb of ram |
| 19:20.08 | stanmade | judging from the site, you are planning to release a live cd for mac/ppc machines as well? |
| 19:21.36 | stanmade | thanatermesis, do you have access to macintosh boxes to test open firmware boot procedures? |
| 19:22.59 | Thanatermesis | playstation and gamecube... mmmh, Im not understand how to launch a liveCD on it :) |
| 19:23.37 | Thanatermesis | yes, Im builded the packages for PPC and AMD64, after the release of 0.2 or 0.3 are finished Im try to make this |
| 19:24.03 | Thanatermesis | no stanmade , Im not have PPC and AMD64 machines for test :( |
| 19:24.17 | stanmade | thanatermesis, playstation and gamecube would not boot from live cds out of the box, i was talking about enlightenment being an interesting choice on these architectures in general |
| 19:24.48 | stanmade | with its small memory footprint, it would make a great choice for quasi-embedded video media display terminals on powerpc, mips and arm architectures |
| 19:26.50 | *** join/#elive kender (~r00t@83.213.152.26) |
| 19:27.37 | Thanatermesis | yes :) |
| 19:27.38 | kender | hello |
| 19:27.56 | Thanatermesis | the only problem are my machines, Im only have x86 machines :/ |
| 19:28.02 | Thanatermesis | hello kender |
| 19:28.22 | kender | wop Thanatermesis |
| 19:28.55 | stanmade | thanatermesis: please excuse my ramblings about other (exotic?) platforms, but i am just a little bit excited about enlightenment delivering both eye candy and modest hardware requirements in a single package |
| 19:29.57 | sinplomo | stanmade, ppc and amd64 ? |
| 19:30.24 | stanmade | it makes me wonder why e isnt much more popular and commonly used throughout the *ix11 community |
| 19:30.44 | stanmade | ppc and amd64 arent exactly what one would consider exotic |
| 19:32.37 | Thanatermesis | e16 not are very easy to configure/use in recent installed... |
| 19:32.49 | Thanatermesis | in the Elive, ALL are configured and prepaired for use ;) |
| 19:33.28 | stanmade | in the official docs, it looks as if all (sub)menus and objects etc. are configured in flat ascii files and nested folders. sounds easy enough for me |
| 19:34.52 | Thanatermesis | for you yes, for another persons with "not good informaticien" this is a caos... hehe |
| 19:43.47 | stanmade | i just love the fact that you can access and configure all relevant gui elements in plain ascii and xml files via emacs |
| 19:44.12 | xlony | Thanatermesis: |
| 19:44.16 | xlony | elive necesita un foro |
| 19:44.17 | xlony | :P |
| 19:44.37 | stanmade | xlony: how about establishing a neat little mailing list via sourceforge.net |
| 19:45.04 | xlony | es otra opción, una lista de correos |
| 19:45.06 | Thanatermesis | xlony, lo se, te quieres ocupar? ;) |
| 19:45.10 | xlony | mejor la lista |
| 19:45.14 | xlony | lista de correos! |
| 19:45.21 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... |
| 19:45.25 | Thanatermesis | ok, me ocupare de eso... |
| 19:45.47 | xlony | :) |
| 19:46.15 | xlony | Thanatermesis: |
| 19:46.21 | xlony | puedo conseguir una lista de correos en un sitio quizás |
| 19:46.24 | xlony | en aditel |
| 19:46.25 | Thanatermesis | yes stanmade , I same configure all in text mode... |
| 19:46.28 | xlony | te interesa? |
| 19:46.30 | Thanatermesis | all may work are in console ;) |
| 19:46.54 | Thanatermesis | xlony, no te preocupes, si lo hago lo hare por sourceforge, tengo un buen contacto ;) |
| 19:47.04 | stanmade | thanatermesis, i have been using emacs since the days of the commodore amiga-os way back in 1992 |
| 19:47.09 | xlony | sf tiene lista de correos? |
| 19:47.09 | xlony | :S |
| 19:50.41 | Thanatermesis | wow, good :) |
| 19:50.44 | xlony | que hinchón de cena xd |
| 19:50.52 | Thanatermesis | xlony, claro, hablamos de SF ;) |
| 19:51.03 | Thanatermesis | Im using vim :) |
| 19:51.49 | xlony | es pr0 |
| 19:51.49 | xlony | xd |
| 19:52.32 | stanmade | Thanatermesis: i would use vim too, but I cant remember all the shortcut keys. in emacs, i do |
| 20:01.14 | stanmade | i just noticed that your live system ships with neither emacs, nor tcsh. shame on you! unix users need those |
| 20:02.09 | Thanatermesis | hahaha stanmade |
| 20:02.21 | Thanatermesis | sorry, Im only added my "preferred aplications" ;) |
| 20:02.49 | Thanatermesis | what are the name exactly of this applications you consideer are good? Im add this in the TODO list |
| 20:02.58 | Thanatermesis | emacs and tcsh ? |
| 20:03.05 | Thanatermesis | you use debian ? |
| 20:05.55 | stanmade | yes, i use debian sometimes. also netbsd |
| 20:06.29 | xlony | tcshç |
| 20:06.30 | xlony | que pr0 xd |
| 20:08.55 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh |
| 20:09.04 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, in the next version all not are a problem |
| 20:09.16 | Thanatermesis | you only need to lauch "apt-get install emacs" and use it ;) |
| 20:09.27 | Thanatermesis | (in the liveCD mode, not need are installed) |
| 20:09.59 | Thanatermesis | ok, tcsh are added in the new base of elive stanmade ;) |
| 20:10.10 | Thanatermesis | and emacs... are big, yes? :/ |
| 20:10.26 | stanmade | i just tried to apt-get it, but all i got was a spanish error message (i suppose) |
| 20:10.42 | stanmade | emacs is about 15 mb, perhaps too big for this system |
| 20:11.47 | xlony | Thanatermesis: |
| 20:11.50 | xlony | quieres lista de correo? |
| 20:11.54 | xlony | 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 |
| 20:11.55 | xlony | venga, ya |
| 20:12.13 | sinplomo | xlony, XDDDDDD |
| 20:12.15 | xlony | venga Thanatermesis coño |
| 20:12.19 | xlony | que estoy hablando con uno |
| 20:12.19 | sinplomo | que loco |
| 20:12.20 | sinplomo | XD |
| 20:12.33 | Thanatermesis | xlony, ahora mismo no |
| 20:12.37 | Thanatermesis | prefiero SF :) |
| 20:12.42 | xlony | no? |
| 20:12.46 | Thanatermesis | y la gente tambien lo prefiere |
| 20:12.52 | xlony | estas seguro? |
| 20:12.54 | xlony | irá mejor aditel |
| 20:12.56 | xlony | menos gente |
| 20:13.04 | Thanatermesis | justamente, mas gente mejor ;) |
| 20:13.09 | xlony | tío |
| 20:13.15 | xlony | menos gente hosteada en el servidor |
| 20:13.16 | xlony | mejor irá |
| 20:13.32 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, apt-get install any is only for > 0.2 versions |
| 20:13.58 | stanmade | thanatermesis: will this feature work via cloop and ram disk as well? |
| 20:14.32 | xlony | vamos Thanatermesis |
| 20:14.35 | xlony | te ahorrarás problemas |
| 20:14.36 | xlony | hazme caso |
| 20:14.47 | xlony | además conozco al administrador de listas de correo |
| 20:14.52 | xlony | más problemas te ahorrarás todavía |
| 20:15.05 | xlony | 22:15,08 <peralta [paisano]> yo os la creo sin mucho problema |
| 20:15.05 | xlony | 22:15,19 <xlony> irá mejor aditel |
| 20:15.05 | xlony | 22:15,24 <xlony> hay menos gente no? |
| 20:15.05 | xlony | 22:15,41 <peralta [paisano]> si, hay 100 socios y la gente esta contenta |
| 20:15.26 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, unionfs |
| 20:16.19 | Thanatermesis | xlony, dejalo para otro dia, volveremos a mirarlo mas tranquilamente, dile que ya le diras algo que el otro no se decide |
| 20:16.19 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:16.58 | xlony | amos |
| 20:17.03 | xlony | y la armamos en un rato |
| 20:20.05 | Thanatermesis | es que tendria primero que hablar yo con otra persona... :/ |
| 20:20.08 | Thanatermesis | aunque mira xlony |
| 20:20.23 | Thanatermesis | bueno... te iba a decir que para los españoles si |
| 20:20.41 | Thanatermesis | ah no, que lo que hay en español no es un mailing-list sino un foro.... |
| 20:21.10 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, de momento no xlony , cuando se meta mucha gente en el ml ingles ya se mirara de hacer uno en español ;) |
| 20:21.13 | xlony | mira |
| 20:21.15 | xlony | hacemos una cosa |
| 20:21.17 | xlony | la lista española |
| 20:21.20 | xlony | osea: elive-es |
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| 20:21.22 | xlony | en aditel |
| 20:21.26 | xlony | y la de otros idiomas en sf.net |
| 20:21.58 | Thanatermesis | es que no se si es bueno separar los 2 idomas... |
| 20:22.13 | xlony | sí lo es xX |
| 20:22.14 | xlony | xD |
| 20:22.41 | Thanatermesis | porque? de esta forma si no hay mucha gente las cosas estan separadas y los de uno no leen los de otro... :/ |
| 20:22.45 | Thanatermesis | de todas formas xlony |
| 20:22.49 | Thanatermesis | eso no funcionaria ahora mismo |
| 20:22.58 | Thanatermesis | porque nadie se va a apuntar ni hablar |
| 20:22.59 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:23.09 | Thanatermesis | en el futuro si muchos españoles lo usan si |
| 20:23.16 | xlony | qué no? |
| 20:23.20 | xlony | nos preguntamos entre nosotros |
| 20:23.21 | xlony | xDD |
| 20:23.40 | sinplomo | xlony, deja de dar la lata, y haz una Elive con base arch co~no |
| 20:23.47 | xlony | hazlo tu |
| 20:23.57 | xlony | estoy instalando bitlbee |
| 20:24.10 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 20:24.49 | sinplomo | bitlbee - An IRC to other chat networks gateway |
| 20:24.55 | sinplomo | te vas a montar una red irc ? |
| 20:25.44 | sinplomo | que digo |
| 20:25.45 | sinplomo | nada |
| 20:25.49 | sinplomo | retiro lo dicho |
| 20:25.52 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, Im like console-user, if you have another ideas for the console-uses (example console aplications, ncureses etc...) are welcomed |
| 20:25.55 | sinplomo | preguntas tontas no |
| 20:27.42 | xlony | xDDD |
| 20:32.04 | stanmade | thermatermesis: sure enough, i will go and check what is on here and what isnt yet, then i will get back to you with my findings |
| 20:33.18 | stanmade | i notice there is no terminal mail client (elm / pine / mutt). but then again, i am old school, who else would miss them? |
| 20:34.21 | xlony | http://latinsud.com/rotsnake.png |
| 20:35.12 | sinplomo | xlony, de donde sacas eso tio |
| 20:35.13 | sinplomo | XD |
| 20:35.36 | stanmade | thanatermesis: there doesnt seem to be any console html browser (lynx, elinks) either |
| 20:35.38 | sinplomo | es una imagen estatica pero te da la impresion de que se esta moviendo |
| 20:35.50 | sinplomo | yo se divertia con eso cuando tenia 5 a~nitos |
| 20:35.53 | sinplomo | no ahora |
| 20:36.28 | sinplomo | stanmade, you can find links2 en elive 0.2 :P |
| 20:37.49 | stanmade | sinplomo: ah alright, links2 is in the PATH |
| 20:38.08 | stanmade | thanatermesis: i do miss BSD talk and tftp |
| 20:39.34 | Thanatermesis | <stanmade> thermatermesis... |
| 20:39.36 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 20:39.56 | Thanatermesis | mutt ? mmmh, ok, add in the TODO |
| 20:40.25 | stanmade | lol, i noticed that myself. on my university sgi origin / irix servers, we use pine |
| 20:41.54 | stanmade | thanatermesis: on a live system, an imap client might make sense (no local storage). both thunderbird and pine can use it |
| 20:42.36 | Thanatermesis | links2 is included in the new release stanmade ... |
| 20:46.37 | Thanatermesis | <stanmade> thanatermesis: i do miss BSD talk and tftp |
| 20:46.39 | Thanatermesis | BSD ? |
| 20:46.45 | Thanatermesis | I have included lftp |
| 20:47.42 | stanmade | thanatermesis: is lftp compatible with UNIX tftp? cause thats what most tftp/bootp servers run on the net |
| 20:47.47 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, conoces a alguien que sea capaz de fabricar una radio y conectarla a linux ? |
| 20:48.14 | stanmade | certain classic console tools like talk were developed at Berkeley, hence they are called BSD as opposed to GNU binutils |
| 20:48.32 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, tftp is a server of ftp ? |
| 20:48.44 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, ya me dijiste eso de la radio... ni idea |
| 20:49.11 | sinplomo | ya se que tu no tienes ni idea |
| 20:49.21 | Thanatermesis | bsdmainutils - collection of more utilities from FreeBSD |
| 20:49.21 | Thanatermesis | bsdutils - Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite |
| 20:49.26 | Thanatermesis | this? stanmade |
| 20:49.27 | sinplomo | XD |
| 20:49.28 | sinplomo | digo que si conoces a alguin |
| 20:50.18 | stanmade | Thanatermesis: tftp (trivial ftp) is an ultra-simple protocol used e.g. for retrieving kernels across the net for PXE netboot bios, etc. |
| 20:51.47 | stanmade | that is, some servers run tftpd but not ftpd |
| 20:52.12 | stanmade | Thanatermesis: talk should be in the BSD collectons |
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| 21:08.19 | Thanatermesis | hummm... |
| 21:08.32 | Thanatermesis | Im not goog NET user |
| 21:08.55 | Thanatermesis | tftp is a server of ftp ? Im not good understand.. |
| 21:10.12 | stanmade | no, tftpd is the server daemon for the tftp client and protocol. they are completely different and seperate from regular ftpd and ftp. |
| 21:11.39 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh, oh yes, I remember this in my AP for transfer the firmware update... |
| 21:12.09 | stanmade | exactly, vmware can boot via its tftp / bootp pxe rom |
| 21:13.07 | Thanatermesis | After unpacking 45.1kB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 21:13.10 | stanmade | there might be a situation where a live cd user wants to retrieve files from a tftp server, dont you think? |
| 21:13.10 | Thanatermesis | added ;) |
| 21:13.24 | stanmade | ok, glad i could make some suggestions to you |
| 21:13.46 | stanmade | i was pleased to find mc already included |
| 21:14.02 | Thanatermesis | yes, mc very good ;) |
| 21:14.35 | Thanatermesis | you have talked for BSD... what exactly ? |
| 21:15.51 | stanmade | whenever i try out a new linux live cd, i usually open up a shell and check if all the basic gnu/bsd/unix cli tools are present. the things that any old school system v person would expect. |
| 21:16.09 | stanmade | often enough, many are missing, and i wonder why |
| 21:17.31 | stanmade | i think that is a general problem with debian gnu/linux versus *bsd, that the system is much less standardized |
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| 21:20.24 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 21:20.51 | stanmade | alright, seems like someone from florida just booted his new system. welcome aboard |
| 21:21.39 | Elive_user | howdy yall |
| 21:21.52 | Elive_user | I think my keyboard is in spanish or something |
| 21:22.03 | Elive_user | cant find the slash key |
| 21:22.25 | stanmade | exactly, its a catalan layout alright. you might wanna change your nick by the way |
| 21:22.39 | Elive_user | yeah, im trying to do that. |
| 21:22.49 | stanmade | its on shift-7 |
| 21:22.57 | stanmade | shift-7 = slash |
| 21:23.27 | everettattebury | This is the first time Ive booted the elive cd |
| 21:23.31 | everettattebury | Its very cool |
| 21:23.51 | stanmade | same for me here, we are just discussing improvements for future revisions. dont you just love the dock too? |
| 21:24.24 | everettattebury | Yes, its very nice. and the window transparency when moving them, thats nice |
| 21:24.39 | everettattebury | how do I change my keyboard config |
| 21:25.08 | everettattebury | do I have to reboot |
| 21:25.43 | stanmade | use loadkeys from the eterm console |
| 21:27.26 | everettattebury | did that, no change |
| 21:27.50 | stanmade | you will have to pass the suitable (english?) keymap file as an argument to loadkeys |
| 21:28.09 | Thanatermesis | humm... |
| 21:28.17 | stanmade | thanatermesis: where are the international keyboard layout files located on the filesystem? |
| 21:28.21 | Thanatermesis | http://livecd.debianitas.net/downloads.html <------------- |
| 21:28.25 | Thanatermesis | look this |
| 21:28.41 | Thanatermesis | http://livecd.debianitas.net/download.html <------------- :) |
| 21:28.52 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 21:29.15 | everettattebury | got this response - Loading /usr/share/keymaps/i386/us.keymap.gz |
| 21:29.20 | Thanatermesis | /usr/share/keymaps/ ? |
| 21:29.30 | everettattebury | but no change in eterm or xchat |
| 21:29.34 | Thanatermesis | mmh, yes, everettattebury look the link ;) |
| 21:29.41 | everettattebury | ok hang on |
| 21:29.42 | stanmade | sounds good, i might just try that myself now |
| 21:31.33 | everettattebury | couldnt get the link to load |
| 21:32.17 | Thanatermesis | everettattebury, try the 2º link |
| 21:32.24 | Thanatermesis | http://livecd.debianitas.net/download.html |
| 21:32.27 | Thanatermesis | this |
| 21:33.11 | everettattebury | ok, brb |
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| 21:36.22 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 21:36.33 | everettattebury | ok, back |
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| 21:37.13 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 21:37.56 | stanmade | thanatermesis: how many live cd users have there been on this channel during the last day or so? |
| 21:38.36 | Thanatermesis | hehehe |
| 21:38.46 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, only 2-3 for week |
| 21:39.52 | stanmade | i would think that following a slashdot posting, there would at least be a few thousand curious users to download and run this system, perhaps 10-20% of them would open up xchat and join this channel |
| 21:41.10 | stanmade | elive_user from belgium: consider changing your nick, slash character is accessed via shift-7 |
| 21:41.26 | everettattebury | I saw elive on the frozentech live cd list |
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| 21:42.07 | Thanatermesis | yes, distrowatch, slashdot, frozentech.. |
| 21:42.19 | Thanatermesis | all this week :) |
| 21:42.32 | stanmade | and still this channel was hit with no more than a handful of visitors? |
| 21:53.16 | Thanatermesis | hehe, yes |
| 21:53.21 | everettattebury | gotta go, nice meeting yall and chat with you later. |
| 21:53.25 | Thanatermesis | the record of the channel are 18 users |
| 21:53.27 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 21:54.09 | Thanatermesis | for this future days is posible to have very more visitors with the internet notices :) |
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| 21:55.08 | xlony | el bitlbee ta bien.. |
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| 22:12.41 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.42 | Thanatermesis | It may seem like that. But Enlightenment was first. I was using Enlightenment well before OS X first came out (and I then bought a Mac with OS X and retired my Enlightenment machine, mind you). |
| 22:12.42 | Thanatermesis | But Enlightenment was excellent way back when. There are some things I still miss, like the pagers (although Expose is cool as well). |
| 22:12.42 | Thanatermesis | I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to assume you're talking about OS X, and not talking about OS 9 or previous systems. Because they bear absolutely no resemblance at all to Enlightenment. So if that's what you're suggesting than you're not just wrong, you're insane. |
| 22:12.44 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 22:15.41 | sinplomo | eso lo pegue aqui hace un rato |
| 22:15.44 | sinplomo | a stanmade |
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| 22:24.19 | xlony | romper ratones |
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| 22:24.21 | xlony | que divertido |
| 22:24.22 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
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| 22:30.06 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2 |
| 22:30.25 | sinplomo | Elive_user, how did you discover Elive ? |
| 22:30.30 | sinplomo | and you Elive_user2 ? |
| 22:31.08 | Elive_user2 | slashdot |
| 22:35.53 | sinplomo | do you like Elive ? |
| 22:36.54 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, the problema are the people looks 0.1, 0.2 are more best... :/ |
| 22:37.12 | sinplomo | Thanatermesis, se dice better no more best |
| 22:37.14 | sinplomo | :P |
| 22:37.25 | Thanatermesis | sinplomo, the problema are the people looks 0.1, 0.2 are more better... :/ |
| 22:37.27 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 22:37.35 | sinplomo | NO |
| 22:37.38 | Thanatermesis | s/problema/problem |
| 22:37.41 | sinplomo | better a secas |
| 22:37.46 | sinplomo | sin more better |
| 22:37.52 | Thanatermesis | ok ok |
| 22:37.55 | sinplomo | besugo XD |
| 22:37.58 | Thanatermesis | :P |
| 22:37.59 | sinplomo | mira |
| 22:38.03 | Thanatermesis | cotorra |
| 22:38.03 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 22:38.06 | sinplomo | ya lo has asustao |
| 22:38.06 | Thanatermesis | xDDD |
| 22:39.53 | Thanatermesis | $ /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 22:39.59 | Thanatermesis | Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: ssh |
| 22:40.06 | Thanatermesis | Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing |
| 22:40.14 | Thanatermesis | WTF are this ¿? |
| 22:40.29 | Thanatermesis | apt, x en es fake |
| 22:40.39 | Thanatermesis | falso ? fake ?? |
| 22:40.56 | Thanatermesis | grrrr |
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| 22:47.17 | TuxMeister | hola genteeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 22:47.45 | stanmade | TuxMeister: i like your nickname |
| 22:47.52 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 22:48.04 | TuxMeister | stanmade, :) well... it's registered jajaja |
| 22:48.23 | stanmade | TuxMeister: do you have a site under that name? |
| 22:48.33 | Thanatermesis | hi TuxMeister , Elive as out in Slashdot, distrowatch, frozentech and osnews !!!!! |
| 22:48.52 | Thanatermesis | this days have enter aproximately 10 elive-users :D |
| 22:48.52 | TuxMeister | stanmade, yes i do |
| 22:49.07 | stanmade | TuxMeister: cool, whats on there? what is the exact URL? |
| 22:49.11 | TuxMeister | Thanatermesis, that's good, that's hell good :) |
| 22:49.18 | TuxMeister | www.tuxmeister.net.tf |
| 22:49.24 | Thanatermesis | TuxMeister, look the links : |
| 22:49.30 | Thanatermesis | http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=11275 |
| 22:49.40 | TuxMeister | stanmade, i have screenshots of e16 and e17, some bg and goodies for e17 |
| 22:49.48 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, look this first link, this is same to slashdot, posible the origin of the slashdot anounce ;) |
| 22:50.00 | Thanatermesis | http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=385&slide=7 <---- shots of elive |
| 22:50.16 | Thanatermesis | http://linux.slashdot.org/ <--- first notice of the slashdot TuxMeister |
| 22:50.29 | Thanatermesis | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=elive <--- distrowatch |
| 22:50.37 | Thanatermesis | and frozentech liveCDs list... :) |
| 22:51.07 | stanmade | TuxMeister: do you actively develop and code for enlightenment? |
| 22:51.26 | TuxMeister | stanmade, nope, i'm from elive's team |
| 22:51.51 | stanmade | any coders on this channel? ;) |
| 22:51.53 | sinplomo | TuxMeister, has compilao alguna ATI |
| 22:51.55 | sinplomo | xlony, tu ? |
| 22:52.07 | TuxMeister | stanmade, CoolChEEzE |
| 22:52.17 | TuxMeister | sinplomo, no, yo tengo nvidia |
| 22:52.24 | sinplomo | DIOS |
| 22:52.42 | sinplomo | porque en este PUTO pais no hay NI UNO solo convertidor DVI/VGA ? |
| 22:53.55 | TuxMeister | sinplomo, sera en TU pais xDD por que aki si que hay |
| 22:54.07 | sinplomo | TuxMeister, he dicho en ESTE |
| 22:54.16 | sinplomo | y con ESTE me refiero a MOROCCO |
| 22:54.40 | sinplomo | los los la bandera roja ( pero no comunistas ) y con una estrella pentagonal verde |
| 22:54.56 | TuxMeister | jaja |
| 22:55.05 | TuxMeister | stanmade, what do you say about the site? |
| 22:55.07 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, no coders of enlightenment working in Elive.... |
| 22:55.24 | stanmade | tuxmeister, i havent tried the site yet |
| 22:55.35 | TuxMeister | ok |
| 22:55.40 | Thanatermesis | hmmm... yes, CoolChEEzE code EFL |
| 22:56.40 | TuxMeister | stanmade, not interested for any special reason, don't have any counter and things... that page was made for personal purpose, in an home-apache server, but i decided to make a page and let people know more about how enlightenment look in action xDç |
| 22:56.43 | stanmade | Coolcheeze, what is your development environment for enlightenment? old fashiond vim + tcsh + gcc or some fancy GUI IDE a la KDevelop or Eclipse or Kylix |
| 22:57.11 | Thanatermesis | CoolChEEzE, are from old school ;) |
| 22:57.26 | stanmade | is enlightenment developed in C, C++, ...? |
| 22:57.28 | Thanatermesis | (Im don't know what aplications use...) |
| 22:57.31 | Thanatermesis | C |
| 22:57.35 | Thanatermesis | pure C |
| 22:57.57 | Thanatermesis | the dealer of E don't like C++ |
| 22:57.58 | Thanatermesis | hehe |
| 22:58.48 | stanmade | thanatermesis, are there widget library bindings for simpler scripting languages like Perl, Python, Tcl, Ruby? what about java? |
| 22:59.38 | TuxMeister | stanmade, if you wanna do cool apps, try the EFL, it's not made only for enlightenment related things... you can perfectly do independent apps with those precious libs ;) |
| 23:00.28 | stanmade | tuxmeister, problem is, i have never quite managed to fully wrap my mind around hard core C, i would prefer some typeless language with automatic garbage collection, etc. |
| 23:01.33 | TuxMeister | uuufff, well then, kdevelop would be the perfect choice for you, couse it's very similar to borland delphi builder and this like that |
| 23:01.49 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, you need to look the power of the EFL libs (enlightenment libs), it are showed in the next version of Elive more good... |
| 23:02.00 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, one example of this libs are your DOCK ;) |
| 23:02.34 | stanmade | Thanatermesis, i still love the dock. i assume that it is written in c, could you code up something as fancy as that in, say, python? |
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| 23:03.39 | TuxMeister | stanmade, yes you can, but unfortunetly, python sucks the power of your computer for very little things... |
| 23:03.46 | zizban | hi all |
| 23:03.54 | zizban | can elive be installed to a HD? |
| 23:03.56 | TuxMeister | the efl are optimized to work and look fancy with very little power |
| 23:04.03 | Thanatermesis | zizban, for 0.2 version, yes |
| 23:04.05 | sinplomo | zizban, the 0.2 yes |
| 23:04.05 | Thanatermesis | 0.1 no |
| 23:04.05 | TuxMeister | zizban, yes, beta 0.2 |
| 23:04.17 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, the DOCK are writed with de new enlightenmnet libs ;) |
| 23:04.21 | Thanatermesis | + C |
| 23:04.24 | stanmade | tuxmeister: yeah i know, its just funny to see how many commercially marketed embedded devices actually use python to do their work |
| 23:04.45 | zizban | ah |
| 23:04.46 | zizban | cool |
| 23:04.52 | Thanatermesis | mmmh.. beta 0.2 not are for the final users TuxMeister .. only for the tests... |
| 23:04.56 | zizban | and when will 0.2 be released? |
| 23:04.59 | Thanatermesis | 0.2 "oficial" are good... |
| 23:05.01 | stanmade | for example the tivo digital video recording platform (PowerPC and MIPS architectures) uses a lot of python |
| 23:05.09 | Thanatermesis | zizban, posible 1 - 2 weeks... |
| 23:05.13 | Thanatermesis | aproximately |
| 23:05.23 | Thanatermesis | I don't know... |
| 23:05.29 | Thanatermesis | In the moment of are finished ;) |
| 23:05.32 | zizban | cool |
| 23:05.51 | zizban | and will a us keyboard map be included? typing in a terminal is a challenege |
| 23:06.32 | TuxMeister | stanmade, yeah... actually we could say that about efl in some years... becouse of it's simplicity and power, it's headed to be used in the future handhelds |
| 23:06.53 | TuxMeister | just think in a pocket pc running e17-embed edition :) |
| 23:07.14 | Thanatermesis | zizban, you need to reboot, look this page: http://livecd.debianitas.net/download.html |
| 23:07.27 | zizban | OH I see |
| 23:07.29 | zizban | ty |
| 23:07.49 | stanmade | tuxmeister: i would love to see a *iX11 PDA with enlightenment, mini-mozilla/thunderbird/sunbird and openoffice |
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| 23:08.48 | TuxMeister | yeah stanmade, or even mobile phones or smart phones, using efl as a core instead of that anoying and bugfull symbian/java platforms |
| 23:09.15 | stanmade | tuxmeister: do you know any decent web resources for learning about symbian? |
| 23:09.55 | TuxMeister | no, i don't even like/approve that platform, to buggy and vulnerable |
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| 23:10.35 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, you posible to play videos in this moments in your computer? (for your special conection...) |
| 23:10.40 | stanmade | tux: you dont have to approve of it, i would simply like to learn a little bit about it? which companies develop and support it? what are its core features? what IDEs are used, APIs, etc |
| 23:11.19 | stanmade | thana: you mean locally stored video content, or streaming media across the net? |
| 23:11.26 | TuxMeister | stanmade, no idea man, didn't put no interest in that... my cell phones runs java... |
| 23:13.05 | stanmade | i used to have a panasonic gd87 cell phone (just switched to a windows mobile 2003 se xscale pda a few weeks ago), it had java. i wonder if it ran on symbian |
| 23:15.51 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, a file .avi |
| 23:15.56 | Thanatermesis | in one page |
| 23:15.57 | TuxMeister | stanmade, i don't like sophisticated phones, but i would like to have a poketpc |
| 23:17.02 | TuxMeister | even if it runs winblows mobile |
| 23:17.57 | stanmade | tux: win mobile is kind of ok, even though it unneccesarily lacks certain basic desktop functions. would love to help develop gpe/opie/enlightenment + linux / netbsd if i had spare xscale hardware |
| 23:18.24 | Thanatermesis | http://www.rasterman.com/files/eem.avi <--- stanmade look the power of libs of enlightenment in one PDA demo |
| 23:19.39 | stanmade | thana: really? that sounds extremely interesting, i will download straight to my windows desktop for archival (i know, it sucks) |
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| 23:19.45 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 23:20.01 | mzilikazi64 | hi Thanatermesis - i am just now downloading the latest elive |
| 23:20.12 | mzilikazi64 | did you base this one on Knoppix too? |
| 23:20.30 | TuxMeister | mzilikazi64, no, this 0.2 is morphix based |
| 23:20.36 | mzilikazi64 | whew! |
| 23:20.38 | mzilikazi64 | :) |
| 23:21.39 | Thanatermesis | hi mzilikazi64 |
| 23:21.47 | Thanatermesis | what version ? 0.2-developers ? |
| 23:21.53 | stanmade | tux: is morphix a knoppix derivate itself? |
| 23:22.38 | Thanatermesis | no stanmade |
| 23:22.50 | Thanatermesis | the first and the original are knoppix |
| 23:23.06 | Thanatermesis | all liveCDs are created from the "knoppix idea" |
| 23:23.14 | Thanatermesis | morphix works totally difernt to knopipx |
| 23:23.25 | mzilikazi64 | yes the 0.2-developers |
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| 23:23.47 | stanmade | thana: how does morphix work then? different autoconfig system? no cloop? different window managers? |
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| 23:26.13 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
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| 23:28.57 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
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| 23:30.06 | Thanatermesis | mzilikazi64, 0.2 have only the features for the 0.2 final version, is only one test, all are unconfigured, look the features of the page of elive for have little examples |
| 23:30.48 | Thanatermesis | stanmade, yes, cloop for final ISO, the "system" and the "liveCD" are separed, not in one only system same knoppix, is more clean and stable ;) |
| 23:31.29 | mzilikazi64 | and easier to roll your own :) |
| 23:32.48 | stanmade | thanatermesis: what do you think about knoppix moving from cd to dvd live release from version 3.9 to 4.0? |
| 23:37.03 | Thanatermesis | a lot of softwares, not posible to add all in one simple CD ;) |
| 23:38.38 | stanmade | yes, but i wonder if the dvd will still be cloop-compressed to add even more stuff... imagine 7+ gb of free software |
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| 23:40.04 | Thanatermesis | exist this lot of 7GB sofwtare in compressed mode ? |
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| 23:52.47 | stanmade | thana: yes, i wonder if there even is that much free software out there |
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| 23:54.00 | Thanatermesis | Welcome to Elive world Elive_user |
| 23:58.18 | stanmade | i am pleased to see that you did include smbclient |
| 23:59.11 | TuxMeister | guys i'm out a'here |
| 23:59.21 | TuxMeister | see u tomorrow |
| 23:59.47 | Thanatermesis | oh, yes, smbclient... |
