irclog2html for #elive on 20050901

`00:01.38`	`Elive_user`	`como por que luego que instalo el elive a disco lo que es el panel de control no funciona y no pude configurar nada con el la red le di con el ifconfig ... y hay cosas como el gkrellm que no arrancan no da error ni nada pero no se ejecuta ni de la consola ?? alguna idea ??`
`00:02.06`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, ejecuta mcp en una terminal`
`00:03.26`	`sinplomo`	`apt, x es fr coser`
`00:04.16`	`Elive_user`	`Me dice command not found`
`00:04.26`	`Elive_user`	`ni como user ni como root`
`00:04.35`	`Elive_user`	`esta como que raro ?`
`00:06.31`	`Elive_user`	`pero cuando trato de ejecutar gkrellm que si esta ni como root ni como user hacer nada Y cuando la probe desde el cd si trabajo todo bien`
`00:06.53`	`Elive_user`	`jaja es que no le gusto mi disco ? jajaja`
`00:09.11`	`sinplomo`	`no esta gkrellm ?`
`00:09.19`	`sinplomo`	`pos apt-get install gkrellm`
`00:10.06`	`Elive_user`	`pos en eso estoy .. pero le di primero remove y luego un install y cuando lo llamo no hace nada ?? no de error ni nada !!`
`00:10.25`	`Elive_user`	`eso es lo que me tiene complicado que no da error alguno`
`00:11.41`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: ping`
`00:11.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`pòng`
`00:12.00`	`dererk`	`felix, punch!`
`00:12.31`	`felix`	`traducir en_es punch`
`00:12.36`	`elive-bot`	`felix: sacador`
`00:12.45`	`felix`	`ahhh`
`00:12.48`	`felix`	`dererk: secador!`
`00:12.57`	`dererk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:13.02`	`dererk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:13.04`	`dererk`	`xD`
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`00:13.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`00:13.34`	`dererk`	`felix, No, seria algo de`
`00:13.36`	`dererk`	`xD`
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`00:14.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`00:15.00`	`Elive_user3`	`Hi`
`00:15.47`	`felix`	`Elive_user3: low!`
`00:16.32`	`Elive_user3`	`First time checking out Elive.... it's avout time someone built something around E`
`00:16.50`	`Elive_user3`	`Is there a way to change the resolution? xconf does not seem to work`
`00:16.50`	`elive-bot`	`Elive_user3: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`00:17.56`	`Elive_user3`	`I selected 1024x768 from the function key at the start`
`00:18.05`	`Elive_user3`	`IT seems much higher than that`
`00:18.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3,`
`00:18.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh`
`00:19.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`<elive-bot> Elive_user3: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
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`00:19.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`elive-bot, good bot :)`
`00:19.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`00:19.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, elive-bot looks good ;)`
`00:19.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I selected 1024x768 from the function key at the start`
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`00:19.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`00:19.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es IT seems much higher than that`
`00:20.05`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: i know`
`00:20.08`	`Elive_user3`	`In e17, is there an issue with the "tips" ow whatever that show above the icons?`
`00:20.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es In e17, is there an issue with the "tips" ow whatever that show above the icons?`
`00:20.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`tips ?`
`00:21.21`	`Elive_user3`	`in 16, the words "termina", "firefox" etc sahow above the icons`
`00:21.33`	`Elive_user3`	`in 17, there is just a brown blob`
`00:22.05`	`Elive_user3`	`no words`
`00:23.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es in 16, the words "termina", "firefox" etc sahow above the icons`
`00:23.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es in 17, there is just a brown blob`
`00:23.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3, mmmh, brown blob ?`
`00:23.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`you posible to make me a screenshot ?`
`00:24.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3, launch the command: sleep 6 && capturar shot1`
`00:24.29`	`Elive_user3`	`I'm in 16 now. If I go to 17, how do I do a screenshot and send it to you?`
`00:24.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`exit from X and type "setup"`
`00:25.55`	`Elive_user3`	`I'll go over to 17 and see if I can figure it out.`
`00:26.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
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`00:27.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`00:27.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`00:27.47`	`Elive_user`	`I'm back... in 17 now`
`00:28.15`	`Elive_user`	`It's not a brown blob, its a blue bar.`
`00:28.23`	`Elive_user`	`no words`
`00:29.38`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, la web ya va`
`00:30.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`si sinplomo`
`00:30.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, how ? in the down bar ?`
`00:30.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, you have the icons and you have a blue bar appears, yes ?`
`00:30.54`	`Elive_user`	`I did a screenshot but I don't know what to do with it now`
`00:31.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`fine large bar in movement ?`
`00:31.55`	`Elive_user`	`You know the icons at the bottom of the screen they launch firefox etc?`
`00:32.41`	`Elive_user`	`When you put your mouse over them, a blue bar appears over the icon... but no words like in 16`
`00:33.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, sure !`
`00:33.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is normal`
`00:33.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`e16 uses engage and e17 uses ibar`
`00:33.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a diferent tool .)`
`00:33.47`	`Elive_user`	`Ahh...that explains it!`
`00:34.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`00:34.53`	`Elive_user`	`Is there a reason for the change? I think I like engage better.`
`00:38.54`	`dererk`	`apt, Sos un bot?`
`00:39.31`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Aqui son las 10:30 pm hora ideal para probar Elive (si la tuviera) :-\`
`00:42.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, try`
`00:42.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`enlightenment-remote -module-load engage`
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`00:42.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`and set up in the menu modules`
`00:44.04`	`Elive_user`	`command not found`
`00:46.25`	`Anarien`	`hasta mañana gente :)`
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`00:46.42`	`dererk`	`Anarien, No era que habias dormido siesta?`
`00:46.47`	`dererk`	`plop!`
`00:46.49`	`dererk`	`:-\`
`00:47.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`enlightenment_remote Elive_user`
`00:48.57`	`neighborlee`	`is there no feature list for elive ?..i'd n ot mind knowing what gets installed other than typical defaults ??`
`00:49.08`	`neighborlee`	`also is a forum going to be setup soon ? ;-))`
`00:49.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es is there no feature list for elive ?..i'd n ot mind knowing what gets installed other than typical defaults`
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`00:49.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`00:49.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es also is a forum going to be setup soon ?`
`00:50.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`no forums for this moments neighborlee , what you need ?`
`00:51.21`	`neighborlee`	`I was only wondering what features it has`
`00:51.31`	`neighborlee`	`like supermount or does usb automount and stuff like that`
`00:51.43`	`neighborlee`	`add/remove for programs ?`
`00:51.54`	`neighborlee`	`panel applet for system notifies of updates ?`
`00:52.05`	`neighborlee`	`sorry dont mean to overwhelm`
`00:52.22`	`neighborlee`	`legimate questions though..oh btw mainly I mean for the install to HD..`
`00:52.31`	`neighborlee`	`dain spelling`
`00:52.35`	`neighborlee`	`>>legitimate`
`00:53.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`neighborlee, is based and compatible with debian, if you like supermount install it`
`00:54.06`	`Elive_user`	`That worked... I went into "edit mode" to move the bar but I can't seem to get out of it.`
`00:54.18`	`neighborlee`	`Thanatermesis, oh ok gotcha thats all I wanted to kow`
`00:54.19`	`neighborlee`	`know`
`00:54.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, de-active "ibar"`
`00:54.26`	`neighborlee`	`peace out but not for me..`
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`00:54.35`	`Elive_user`	`I did that`
`00:55.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`but not for me? o_O`
`00:57.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m__, ping`
`00:57.06`	`Elive_user`	`How do I get out of edit mode?`
`00:57.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`you can give me a test sHR00m__ ?`
`00:57.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, control-alt-g`
`00:57.43`	`Elive_user`	`Thanks`
`00:58.49`	`sHR00m__`	`yes?`
`00:58.52`	`sHR00m__`	`sure`
`01:01.17`	`Elive_user`	`You know that Open Office does not work?`
`01:01.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m__, you posible to unload the DMA's of your machine and test a configuration for auto-load DMA's ?`
`01:01.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, openoffice`
`01:01.49`	`apt`	`somebody said openoffice was a GPL Gtk based Productivity Suite based upon Sun's StarOffice http://www.openoffice.org. See #debian-oo http://www.linux-debian.de/openoffice for debs. try 'deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/ stable main contrib' if mirrors from the first URL do not work`
`01:01.50`	`sHR00m__`	`yes should be no problem`
`01:01.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, elive-openoffice`
`01:02.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok sHR00m__ give me a minute...`
`01:02.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, this is a simple problem in e17, in e16 works properly`
`01:04.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m__, reinstall this package and reboot your machine without the DMA activated`
`01:04.44`	`sHR00m__`	`ok`
`01:04.49`	`sHR00m__`	`also off in the config file yes?`
`01:06.20`	`sHR00m__`	`Richte elive-etc ein (0.1) ...`
`01:06.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, how you have configured the DMA ? in the hdparm file ?`
`01:07.03`	`sHR00m__`	`i resetted to factory settings`
`01:07.12`	`sHR00m__`	`/etc/hdparm`
`01:07.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`this package contains the /etc/hdparm file with activation for all devices (includes the devices of you don't have), I need to look if this not causes a problem`
`01:07.33`	`sHR00m__`	`ok`
`01:07.35`	`sHR00m__`	`now i reboot`
`01:07.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, after reset the factory settings reinstall the package`
`01:07.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`for make sure the new configuration`
`01:07.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`and reboot, yes :)`
`01:07.56`	`sHR00m__`	`brb`
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`01:17.44`	`sHR00m`	`hi`
`01:17.59`	`sHR00m`	`seems that the package doesn't work`
`01:18.26`	`sHR00m`	`the /etc/hdparm.conf is untouched`
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`01:19.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`o-O`
`01:20.08`	`sHR00m`	`i looked in the deb. is it correctly in /tmp/.elive-skel/etc?`
`01:20.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m, you are sure to have installed the package after delete the before version of hdparm ?`
`01:20.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`not modify the hdparm after the package installed ?`
`01:20.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, its correctly`
`01:20.44`	`sHR00m`	`sec.`
`01:20.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`reinstall and look the file`
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`01:22.18`	`cuc`	`buenas noches`
`01:22.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`yep cuc !`
`01:23.10`	`cuc`	`holas Thanatermesis !`
`01:23.19`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, seems that the deb messed up my sources.list file. have no localhost deb repositories here ;)`
`01:23.23`	`cuc`	`como va todo?`
`01:24.16`	`sHR00m`	`i'll reboot now`
`01:25.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo ! sHR00m hehehe`
`01:25.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`I need to retouch the package :) thanks for the report`
`01:25.36`	`sHR00m`	`np`
`01:25.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`cuc, asi asi, hay nueva release`
`01:26.21`	`cuc`	`si... estaba lo estaba leiendo ahora`
`01:26.34`	`cuc`	`yo llegué ayer de ibiza`
`01:27.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya !`
`01:27.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`es verdad`
`01:27.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`que tal te fué ?`
`01:28.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, Elive_user2 any can give me your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?`
`01:28.29`	`cuc`	`mu bien, la verdá necesitaba airearme un poco`
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`01:28.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`01:29.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje, unas buenas vacaciones vamos ;)`
`01:29.21`	`cuc`	`veo que con la nueva release se ha llenado el canal!`
`01:29.54`	`cuc`	`si... una semana de relax en formentera y una de fiesta en ibiza`
`01:30.06`	`Elive_user`	`Sure... how do I get it to you?`
`01:31.38`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanater: te lo mando (tengo el 0.3 beta sin el nuevo repositorio)`
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`01:32.15`	`Elive_user2`	`deb http://livecd.debianitas.net/repository/i386/elive ./`
`01:32.16`	`Elive_user2`	`deb http://livecd.debianitas.net/repository/i386/efl ./`
`01:32.16`	`Elive_user2`	`deb http://livecd.debianitas.net/repository/i386/misc ./`
`01:32.16`	`Elive_user2`	`deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free`
`01:32.16`	`Elive_user2`	`deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free`
`01:32.16`	`Elive_user2`	`# deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main`
`01:32.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2, Elive_user , send me for DCC, click in my nick and select "send"`
`01:32.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, good`
`01:32.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
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`01:32.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`01:32.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is really old`
`01:33.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2, what version of Elive you are triying? o_O`
`01:33.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, the old beta, ok`
`01:33.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, paste in this channel ;)`
`01:34.28`	`Elive_user`	`Is there a text editor that can open the file?`
`01:34.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, scite`
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`01:36.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Elive_user , don't worry, I can have the posibility of obtain this file`
`01:36.37`	`Elive_user`	`deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive`
`01:36.37`	`Elive_user`	`deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free`
`01:36.37`	`Elive_user`	`deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free`
`01:36.37`	`Elive_user`	`deb http://www.morphix.org/debian ./`
`01:36.37`	`Elive_user`	`# deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main`
`01:36.39`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Pense que no hablabas ingles`
`01:36.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo no hablo ingles dererk`
`01:37.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, thanks`
`01:37.07`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, No?`
`01:37.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, donde has visto tu eso ?`
`01:37.15`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, entonces quien escribe¿?`
`01:37.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`a eso lo llamas tu ingles ?`
`01:37.33`	`dererk`	`xD`
`01:37.35`	`dererk`	`Ok`
`01:37.40`	`dererk`	`No es para tanto`
`01:37.44`	`dererk`	`Hablas mejor que yo ?=)`
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`01:37.56`	`felix`	`dererk: no me extra�a, hasta un ni�o peque�o habla mejor que tu`
`01:37.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso me alaga, creia que nadie hablaba peor que yo xD`
`01:38.11`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, i dont get it.. what exactly do you mean with reinstall?`
`01:38.25`	`felix`	`dererk: :)`
`01:38.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m, only change the /etc/hdparm.conf file`
`01:38.42`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Aunque hay gente que habla peor que yo... fijate como programa en C++ felix.... eso ya hasta casi... resulta ofensivo`
`01:38.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`with DMA activated`
`01:39.14`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, thats no problem but the deb doesnt seem to do it with an dpkg -i or something, ok switch`
`01:39.19`	`felix`	`dererk: s�... el otro d�a pegu� c�digo en #c++-es y se cayeron todos por ping timeout`
`01:39.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`01:39.33`	`dererk`	`pufff`
`01:39.45`	`dererk`	`Seguro que fue por alguna bomba fork o algo asi`
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`01:39.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`01:39.58`	`dererk`	`Muuy tontos de los que la hayan ejecutado`
`01:40.07`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Pasame por pvt el script ?=)`
`01:40.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh, give me a minute sHR00m , its posible to Im not have send the good file O:)`
`01:40.32`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, i changed the file now.. should be ok`
`01:40.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, Elive_user2 Elive_user3 please change yours nickname`
`01:40.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:40.59`	`Elive_user2`	`como se hace eso?`
`01:41.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m, but the package have installed a file with a lots of "hdx" configurations ?`
`01:41.12`	`felix`	`Elive_user2: /nick otro_nick`
`01:41.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2, /nick nombre`
`01:41.53`	`sHR00m`	`no it only included it`
`01:42.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, one second`
`01:42.42`	`sHR00m`	`uhu, got a segfault`
`01:42.51`	`felix`	`sHR00m: congratulations! :)`
`01:42.53`	`sHR00m`	`at a change to the gant theme`
`01:43.06`	`sHR00m`	`never had one before :P`
`01:43.12`	`felix`	`sHR00m: shit happens :)`
`01:43.33`	`felix`	`sHR00m: i got a few sigsegv using e17`
`01:43.38`	`felix`	`sHR00m: and using e16 either`
`01:43.58`	`sHR00m`	`the cvs compiles worked very well in this case`
`01:44.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m, dcc`
`01:45.01`	`sHR00m`	`ok`
`01:45.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`the packages use the CVS`
`01:45.51`	`nameles`	`I tried to load to memory on boot but it failed.`
`01:46.05`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, thats working, jep`
`01:46.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`shouze, sources.list actualized ;)`
`01:46.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`load memory nameles ?`
`01:47.01`	`nameles`	`On boot there is an option to load the entire OS to RAM.`
`01:47.06`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, and it overwrites existing files`
`01:47.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`01:47.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`nameles, what ram you have ?`
`01:47.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`size`
`01:47.55`	`nameles`	`384mb I think`
`01:48.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`needs 650 Mb`
`01:48.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`minimum`
`01:48.35`	`nameles`	`That explains it....maybe it should say that in the menue`
`01:48.37`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: is it mandatory to have the same amount of memory as the cd has?`
`01:49.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, because need to copy the CD contents in the ram`
`01:49.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok sHR00m in the next reboot give me noticed if the DMA works or not (and if not show strange messages of the DMA unloadable devices in the boot)`
`01:49.54`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: then you need at least 650 + minimun boot memory + running memory to make it works`
`01:50.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`01:50.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`aproximately minimum 750 or 800 Mb`
`01:51.09`	`nameles`	`After I installed Engage in e17, it only shows me the apps that are currently running. How do I make it behave like it does in e16?`
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`01:51.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`01:51.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`nameles, launch entangle`
`01:52.36`	`nameles`	`ok`
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`01:55.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`01:59.04`	`nameles`	`cool...entangle worked fine`
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`02:00.22`	`dererk`	`Thanks`
`02:00.26`	`dererk`	`xD`
`02:01.18`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, it doesnt work`
`02:01.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`02:01.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`but the file are modified, yes ?`
`02:01.48`	`sHR00m`	`yes`
`02:02.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, how you have configured the file previously ?`
`02:02.03`	`sHR00m`	`/dev/hdc {`
`02:02.04`	`sHR00m`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:02.04`	`sHR00m`	`}`
`02:02.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is your configuration ?`
`02:02.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`but I have included the same parameters`
`02:02.37`	`sHR00m`	`should be`
`02:02.45`	`sHR00m`	`yes. i did nothing`
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`02:02.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`02:02.54`	`sHR00m`	`there are only your configs`
`02:02.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah ok`
`02:03.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`and your config how to looks ?`
`02:03.22`	`sHR00m`	`#command_line {`
`02:03.22`	`sHR00m`	`# hdparm -q -m16 -q -W0 -q -d1 /dev/hda`
`02:03.23`	`sHR00m`	`#} <- that could be worth more, in an rc script or so`
`02:03.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, ok, Im modify the files...`
`02:05.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`DCC sHR00m`
`02:06.01`	`sHR00m`	`ok`
`02:06.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`look the configuration before the reboot, if looks good`
`02:06.32`	`sHR00m`	`yes`
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`02:06.41`	`samuel`	`hello all`
`02:07.27`	`dererk`	`Hi samuel`
`02:09.02`	`samuel`	`im using debian sid and would like to know why when adding e17 it tries to uninstall a whole bunch of x-free stuff and uninstalls my x.org stuff? can i just install the e17 deb?`
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`02:09.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`02:09.14`	`samuel`	`thanks!`
`02:09.28`	`Elive_user`	`vphan13`
`02:09.42`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
`02:09.49`	`samuel`	`e17 looks awesome in the screenshots, i use gnome, and love it, but im itching to try e17`
`02:10.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel, yes, try to use the repository, but Im not sure if works good in SID, its prepaired for "testing"`
`02:10.25`	`samuel`	`Thanatermesis, oh, well in that case it should be ok`
`02:10.33`	`samuel`	`lemme give it a try...`
`02:11.18`	`samuel`	`do i really need g++ for e17?`
`02:14.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`because use the efl-all package, this combines all enlightenment libs and for developement`
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`02:14.38`	`sHR00m`	`re`
`02:14.41`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, it doesnt work ;)`
`02:14.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`:(`
`02:15.17`	`sHR00m`	`i think the config file is only userful if hdparm is running`
`02:15.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`but hdparm are launched in the init scripts, no ?`
`02:15.53`	`sHR00m`	`hmmm checking the parameters`
`02:15.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:16.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, exist`
`02:16.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`hummm...`
`02:16.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`not are included in the init scripts of the system :S`
`02:16.57`	`sHR00m`	`i have an hdparm script in my init.d`
`02:17.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, this is the init script fo the sytem`
`02:17.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`but the init script launched in a normal boot are in /etc/rc2.d`
`02:17.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`and not are included :/`
`02:17.41`	`sHR00m`	`ok. that could be it`
`02:17.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`shouze, launch: /etc/init.d/hdparm restart and look if works`
`02:18.48`	`sHR00m`	`root@elive[~]$ /etc/init.d/hdparm start`
`02:18.48`	`sHR00m`	`Setting parameters of disc:/etc/init.d/hdparm: Error: unknown separator -qd1. Exiting.`
`02:18.52`	`sHR00m`	`hm.`
`02:19.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`heh`
`02:19.43`	`sHR00m`	`i try the old file`
`02:19.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`02:20.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`but the hdparm not are launched in the boot`
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`02:20.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`02:20.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, my before file are the good sHR00m ;)`
`02:20.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/tmp)==--> /etc/init.d/hdparm restart`
`02:20.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`Setting parameters of disc: /dev/hda.`
`02:21.00`	`sHR00m`	`root@elive[/home/shr00m/.xchat2/downloads]$ /etc/init.d/hdparm start`
`02:21.00`	`sHR00m`	`Setting parameters of disc: /dev/hda/dev/hdb: No such device or address`
`02:21.07`	`nameles`	`e17 sefaulted when I tried to change the theme`
`02:21.15`	`sHR00m`	`nameles, me too`
`02:21.29`	`sHR00m`	`but after it the theme is changed`
`02:21.31`	`sHR00m`	`g`
`02:21.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`what theme for what change ?`
`02:21.58`	`nameles`	`change from elive to default`
`02:22.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`hummm`
`02:22.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`its posible`
`02:22.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`e17 are in construction ;)`
`02:22.39`	`nameles`	`I understand...just thought I'd mention it.`
`02:22.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`np, thanks`
`02:23.17`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, btw, my hdc isnt -d1 after the launch`
`02:23.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`give me a second...`
`02:24.01`	`sHR00m`	`sure, i make a break :P`
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`02:26.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`02:26.29`	`Elive_user`	`greetingz`
`02:27.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`yop`
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`02:31.27`	`sHR00m`	`Thanatermesis, sorry. i must get some sleep. i look in here "tomorrow" ;)`
`02:31.32`	`sHR00m`	`l8r`
`02:31.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok sHR00m , thanks for all`
`02:31.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`tomorrow make the final test ;)`
`02:31.55`	`sHR00m`	`np`
`02:31.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`g'night`
`02:31.59`	`sHR00m`	`sure ;)`
`02:32.05`	`sHR00m`	`from error 0.1`
`02:32.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
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`02:35.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`02:36.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`02:36.38`	`com2kid`	`everything that is not written against the EFL looks so ugly....`
`02:38.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`x en es everything that is not written against the EFL looks so ugly....`
`02:39.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es everything that is not written against the EFL looks so ugly....`
`02:39.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, _H_ Baby badblody cuc damosu dererk sinplomo pr0t0cod7 logik- ... www.elivecd.org :)`
`02:40.11`	`badblody`	`Elive 0.3 already released !!!`
`02:40.16`	`badblody`	`i yo sin enterarme`
`02:40.17`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, :0`
`02:40.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`com2kid, hahaha, yes :)`
`02:40.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`badblody, xDDDD`
`02:40.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`acaba de salir hace 2 dias`
`02:41.02`	`com2kid`	`We should petition, Firefox rewritten with EFL instead! :) Cairo sucks, long live EFL!!`
`02:41.09`	`com2kid`	`;-)`
`02:41.18`	`badblody`	`screenshots no tira`
`02:41.42`	`_H_`	`casi me habia ido a dormir`
`02:41.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`badblody, subiendo... ;)`
`02:42.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`screenshots/prueba2.mpg: ETA: 0:31 4,59/ 5,42 MB 27,58 kB/s`
`02:44.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, pagina subida`
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`02:44.58`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| THE REPOSITORY HAS CHANGED \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org NEW DOMAIN !!! \|\| your installed Elive are slow? configure your DMA's`
`02:45.05`	`*** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis`
`02:45.56`	`com2kid`	`Hey wait, how do I make my terminal transparent?`
`02:46.42`	`com2kid`	`and how do I get those cool real-time views of programs from the screenshots`
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`02:46.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`02:47.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`com2kid, in e17 not are posible make terminal transparent`
`02:47.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es and how do I get those cool real-time views of programs from the screenshots`
`02:48.12`	`com2kid`	`I thought E17 had real transparency, hmm`
`02:49.19`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: ?`
`02:49.28`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: que fue toda esa lista de nicks?`
`02:50.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, o_O`
`02:50.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`lista de nicks ?`
`02:50.12`	`felix`	`23:44 < Thanatermesis> felix, _H_ Baby badblody cuc damosu dererk sinplomo pr0t0cod7 logik- ... www.elivecd.org :)`
`02:50.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`com2kid, real-time screenshots ?`
`02:50.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, el nuevo site de elive ;)`
`02:50.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`com2kid, its because xfree`
`02:51.04`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis quedamos que la presentacion de elive y bulmages no valia la pena ponerla alla?`
`02:51.25`	`felix`	`ah :)`
`02:52.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_, donde ?`
`02:52.24`	`_H_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:52.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, mucho mejor www.elivecd.org que lo que habia, no ? ;)`
`02:52.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_, no, alli no, ya que no tiene gran cosa que ver, pero ya se pondra en el futuro proyecto elive-pymes`
`02:52.54`	`com2kid`	`Oh I was looking at the E16 screen shots. ^_^`
`02:52.59`	`_H_`	`joer con lo del bug del paquete debian tampoco he puesto la noticia del elive, sorry`
`02:53.18`	`_H_`	`bueno, venga nanit`
`02:53.20`	`_H_`	`:)`
`02:53.21`	`com2kid`	`The machine I am on has no video driver support either. :( no fancy effects at all`
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`02:53.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`02:56.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`02:58.24`	`nameles`	`Got to go...thanks for all your help. Great start to a cool distro!`
`02:59.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
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`03:00.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`03:00.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`03:02.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`03:02.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es Dererk congratulates the whole Elive team for the great lavor realized`
`03:02.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`03:05.44`	`felix`	`lavor?`
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`03:06.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`03:07.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es well you can probably get away with classifying them in "years" or "generations"`
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`03:08.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`03:10.26`	`dererk`	`felix, labor*`
`03:13.44`	`dererk`	`Performance`
`03:15.55`	`felix`	`dererk: quiz�s suene mejor con "job"`
`03:16.16`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: excelente elive.org! :)`
`03:16.18`	`dererk`	`felix, Y si yo quiero decir performance cual es el problema?`
`03:16.57`	`dererk`	`felix, desempenio`
`03:17.22`	`felix`	`hmmm`
`03:17.27`	`felix`	`performance es m�s parecido a rendimiento`
`03:17.35`	`dererk`	`felix, x en es Are you a bot?`
`03:17.36`	`dererk`	`xD`
`03:17.50`	`felix`	`dererk: sos un boludo?`
`03:17.54`	`felix`	`ah no... era bot`
`03:17.58`	`felix`	`dererk: sos un bot?`
`03:18.01`	`dererk`	`xD`
`03:18.03`	`felix`	`}:)`
`03:18.11`	`dererk`	`felix, Estuviste bien ahi ?=)`
`03:18.14`	`felix`	`dererk: Hago las paces... ya suficiente con el chiste :)`
`03:18.16`	`dererk`	`felix, De donde eras?`
`03:18.21`	`felix`	`dererk: .ar`
`03:18.33`	`dererk`	`felix, Heimy me dijo que me mentiste`
`03:18.39`	`felix`	`?`
`03:18.41`	`felix`	`por?`
`03:19.03`	`felix`	`no suelo mentir en realidad (m�s por mala memoria que por ganas de no mentir)`
`03:19.10`	`felix`	`me olvido de las mentiras que digo y despu�s meto la pata.`
`03:20.12`	`dererk`	`felix, Nada, no se como salio el tema ya... si me acuerdo te digo`
`03:20.29`	`felix`	`00:22 < dererk> felix, Heimy me dijo que me mentiste`
`03:20.33`	`felix`	`dererk: acerca de qu�?`
`03:20.49`	`dererk`	`felix, Nada, no se como salio el tema ya... si me acuerdo te digo`
`03:20.57`	`felix`	`ah`
`03:20.57`	`felix`	`ok`
`03:21.23`	`dererk`	`felix, Creo que era porque yo le dije que vos lo conocias...`
`03:21.37`	`felix`	`personalmente... no.`
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`03:22.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`03:22.25`	`dererk`	`felix, Ahhh, vos me habias dicho algo de que habian tomado una birras... creo que de ahi venia, igual te lo dije por que me acorde recien`
`03:31.53`	`com2kid`	`aaarg, what is up with all these missing games in the menu? :(`
`03:32.10`	`com2kid`	`frozen-bubble AND OpenUniverse are missing. sigh`
`03:32.50`	`felix`	`dererk: hmmm.... unas birras?, con heimy?`
`03:33.16`	`felix`	`dererk: dificil... hubiera estado bueno. Con otra gente s� he tomado, pero no s� si de freenode.`
`03:33.41`	`dererk`	`felix, Ok, olvidate, yo de loco que soy`
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`03:35.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`03:37.15`	`*** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ`
`03:37.17`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| THE REPOSITORY HAS CHANGED \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org NEW DOMAIN !!! \|\| your installed Elive are slow? configure your DMA's or contact thanatermesis for make this automatically with a upgrade of a package`
`03:37.21`	`*** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis`
`03:38.51`	`felix`	`dererk: creo que recuerdo la charla`
`03:40.24`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, cambialo por " to get this problem automatically upgraded with a new package"`
`03:40.40`	`dererk`	`felix, Ya fue, olvidate man ?=)`
`03:41.17`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: "Your Elive's Installation is slow? Just set up your DMA or contact Thanatermesis to make..."`
`03:41.32`	`*** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ`
`03:41.38`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| THE REPOSITORY HAS CHANGED \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org NEW DOMAIN !!! \|\| your installed Elive are slow? configure your DMA's or contact thanatermesis to make this automatically with a upgrade of a package`
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`03:41.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`03:41.44`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: de todas formas "...for make this automatically with a upgrade of a package" suena raro`
`03:41.51`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: de hecho, no lo entiendo bien`
`03:42.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:42.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`entonces que pongo ?`
`03:42.08`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, cambialo por " to get this problem automatically upgraded with a new package"`
`03:42.27`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: qu� quer�s poner?`
`03:42.29`	`dererk`	`contact Thanatermesis to ...`
`03:42.44`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| THE REPOSITORY HAS CHANGED \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org NEW DOMAIN !!! \|\| your installed Elive are slow? configure your DMA's or contact thanatermesis to get this problem automatically upgraded with a new package`
`03:43.10`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: che "your installed Elive are slow?" es como "Su instalacion de Elive son lenta?"`
`03:43.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, que tienen que activar las DMAs o que me digan algo para ver si funciona "la forma automatica" de corregir esto`
`03:43.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, pues que si la instalacion de elive parece lenta.. (claro, sin los DMA es normal que tire como el culo)`
`03:43.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`imaginate que me fui a ver los DMA porque vi que iba raramente lento... xD`
`03:44.14`	`felix`	`algo como "Is your Elive running slow? Just configure DMA or contact Thanatermesis ...."`
`03:44.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, ok`
`03:44.32`	`felix`	`no s� si est� bien, tampoco se TANTO ingl�s`
`03:44.45`	`felix`	`pero "Elive are slow" seguro que no va :)`
`03:45.03`	`*** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| THE REPOSITORY HAS CHANGED \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org NEW DOMAIN !!! \|\| your installed Elive are slow? Just configure DMA or contact Thanatermesis`
`03:45.16`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Perdon, esto queda mejor"Is your Elive running slow? Just configure DMA or contact Thanatermesis to get this problem automatically solved with a new package"`
`03:45.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, asi corto esta bien, no me gusta mucho los topics largos`
`03:46.22`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Si, o ponelo en el msg de entrada que da ChanServ`
`03:46.26`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: cortalo m�s a�n`
`03:46.29`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Esa es una idea mejor, creo`
`03:46.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, asi ya esta bien`
`03:46.49`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: pon�: "Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| Read http://www.elive.org/FAQ/"`
`03:46.51`	`dererk`	`felix, Mas corto "This is Elive, contact Thanatermesis"`
`03:46.52`	`dererk`	`xD`
`03:46.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:47.01`	`tzulberti`	`lo mejor seria: if your elive is working slow, just configure de DMA or ....`
`03:47.17`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Es comun lo de los dma?`
`03:47.24`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Digo, el problema`
`03:47.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`tzulberti, but this is slow only in the installed mode, in the liveCD are good`
`03:47.28`	`felix`	`if your elive is working slow you are a f!#% asshole and you will be dead`
`03:47.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk, para todas las instalaciones`
`03:47.49`	`felix`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:47.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD felix`
`03:48.00`	`tzulberti`	`ya se.... lo decia para corregir el topic`
`03:48.17`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Si, entiendo, perdon`
`03:48.25`	`tzulberti`	`Thana: por cierto, lei que querias pasar algo al ingles...`
`03:48.30`	`tzulberti`	`necesitas ayuda?`
`03:48.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`tzulberti, ahora mismo no, creo que ya esta todo pasado al ingles`
`03:49.03`	`* topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| THE REPOSITORY HAS CHANGED \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org * NEW DOMAIN ! *** \|\| your installed Elive are slow? Just configure DMA or contact Thanatermesis`
`03:49.24`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: dale, pon� la biblia en el topic`
`03:49.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`la biblia en todo caso no`
`03:49.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:49.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, bibble`
`03:49.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, bible`
`03:49.53`	`apt`	`i guess bible is exageratted way to much, its good to turn to though, but i have no religion`
`03:50.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
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`03:50.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`03:52.06`	`dererk`	`xD`
`03:52.41`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Aun faltan 2 hs para que termine de bajar mi .3 :-\`
`03:53.10`	`tzulberti`	`Thanata: tenes un par de errores en la pagina elive.xasin.com`
`03:53.28`	`tzulberti`	`lo correcto seria (creo yo):`
`03:53.29`	`tzulberti`	`Support for all languages, not only spanish. All the versions before, were just tests.`
`03:53.29`	`tzulberti`	`We have included a torrent download for this moment and we are waiting another`
`03:53.29`	`tzulberti`	`mirrors for direct download`
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`03:55.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`tzulberti, la nueva pagina ahora sera www.elivecd.org :)`
`03:56.24`	`tzulberti`	`gracias por el dato`
`03:56.51`	`dererk`	`Eso me pasa por molestar al dios sinplomo :-\`
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`04:01.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`04:01.52`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
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`04:01.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`04:02.19`	`dererk`	`Hi Elive_user`
`04:05.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`me voy a dormir`
`04:05.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`mañana mas`
`04:05.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`y nunca terminara el curro...`
`04:05.23`	`dererk`	`Hasta maniana Thanatermesis`
`04:05.31`	`dererk`	`Gracias por o`
`04:05.36`	`dererk`	`todo*`
`04:05.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`buenas noches a todos/as \| night'z all`
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`04:12.41`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`04:14.08`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es (that will search your homedir and/or system dirs and list all themes it can find etc.)`
`04:14.26`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es maybe a theme searcher etc.`
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`04:14.31`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`04:14.42`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es thats why i dont want to put any effort into it.`
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`04:20.27`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`04:21.46`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`04:21.57`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es i will be sure to pass this iso around the office though`
`04:22.09`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es keep up the good work`
`04:28.35`	`vikas`	`ThanaZzzz: i'm from india...`
`04:29.07`	`ThanaZzzz`	`sri lanka = india ?`
`04:29.11`	`vikas`	`i was at home all this while, just came to office..`
`04:29.15`	`vikas`	`ThanaZzzz: nope`
`04:29.26`	`ThanaZzzz`	`ok`
`04:29.30`	`vikas`	`srilanka is an island south of india, in the indian ocean`
`04:29.39`	`ThanaZzzz`	`oh, ok`
`04:30.13`	`ThanaZzzz`	`the 0.3 version are released ;)`
`04:30.26`	`ThanaZzzz`	`and Im go to sleep :)`
`04:30.30`	`felix`	`bah`
`04:30.35`	`ThanaZzzz`	`gnight vikas`
`04:30.37`	`felix`	`ThanaZzzz: you're so weak`
`04:30.39`	`ThanaZzzz`	`gnight felix`
`04:30.45`	`felix`	`good night pal`
`04:30.47`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es you are so weak`
`04:30.48`	`felix`	`have a good rest`
`04:30.59`	`ThanaZzzz`	`débil? o_O`
`04:31.22`	`felix`	`hehe`
`04:31.29`	`felix`	`stay awake`
`04:31.36`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es stay awake`
`04:31.49`	`ThanaZzzz`	`O_o`
`04:32.02`	`felix`	`come on... don't go to bed ThanaZzzz`
`04:32.02`	`ThanaZzzz`	`xD`
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`04:32.13`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`04:32.14`	`felix`	`:)`
`04:32.21`	`felix`	`ThanaZzzz: do you see?`
`04:32.25`	`ThanaZzzz`	`felix, Im looking the blue init of the sun from my window lol`
`04:32.36`	`felix`	`ThanaZzzz: there are tons of elive users looking for your help`
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`04:32.36`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`04:32.44`	`ThanaZzzz`	`hahaha`
`04:32.50`	`ThanaZzzz`	`I need holidays ;)(`
`04:32.51`	`felix`	`ThanaZzzz: "the blue init of the sun" == sunrise :-D`
`04:33.08`	`felix`	`apt: x en es sunrise`
`04:33.17`	`felix`	`jeje`
`04:33.20`	`ThanaZzzz`	`hahaha`
`04:33.47`	`ThanaZzzz`	`mmmh, I need to create a FAQ for Elive`
`04:34.00`	`ThanaZzzz`	`with "oh, problem in oo2, oh, system slow..." lol`
`04:34.12`	`ThanaZzzz`	`for tomorrow ;)`
`04:34.18`	`ThanaZzzz`	`in this moments /me to go bed`
`04:34.23`	`ThanaZzzz`	`bed bed bed bed`
`04:34.25`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt, bed`
`04:34.26`	`apt`	`well, bed is a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower`
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`04:34.29`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`04:34.43`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt x en es bed is a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower`
`04:34.53`	`ThanaZzzz`	`xDDDDDDDD`
`04:34.55`	`Elive_user3`	`hey all. EXCELLENT work on the distro. I'm just having one problem: I installed elive(.3) onto my harddrive, but whenever I boot, it tells me I have to reconfigure my network interface. I try o configure my network card once I'm logged in, but it just won't work. Does anyone have any advice?`
`04:35.15`	`ThanaZzzz`	`apt, shower`
`04:35.17`	`apt`	`rumour has it, shower is a (wo)man using one hand in a very usefull way`
`04:35.35`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Elive_user3, you need to reconfigure the network because this not are really configured in the liveCD mode`
`04:36.05`	`Elive_user3`	`ok, so how do I configure the network from within elive?`
`04:36.13`	`ThanaZzzz`	`dpkg-reconfigure etherconf for try to re-configure`
`04:36.32`	`Elive_user3`	`ok, will try! Thanks a LOT!!`
`04:36.38`	`Elive_user3`	`u guys rock!`
`04:36.51`	`ThanaZzzz`	`within elive? launch "networkconf", but this is not good because not make a permamen`
`04:36.53`	`ThanaZzzz`	`bleh`
`04:37.15`	`ThanaZzzz`	`enga, buenas noches`
`04:37.16`	`ThanaZzzz`	`ya si`
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`04:48.41`	`com2kid`	`Is there any way to make it so that windows when maximized do not cover engage in E17?`
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`04:53.14`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`04:53.17`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`04:53.27`	`Elive_user`	`thanks`
`04:54.44`	`Elive_user`	`the best way to install KDE to elinux will be an apt-get install kde?? will I need anymore like KDM??`
`05:11.01`	`vikas`	`com2kid: yeah there is...`
`05:11.45`	`vikas`	`when the window is spawned, if it is not already covering engage, then, when you maximize, it won't cover it`
`05:12.19`	`vikas`	`Elive_user: if u already have entrance/gdm, why would u need kdm as well?`
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`05:24.00`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`05:36.28`	`com2kid`	`Is the graphic glitchs I am getting in e16 a driver bug, a elive bug, or an e16 bug?`
`05:46.41`	`vikas`	`com2kid: what kind of glitches?`
`05:46.55`	`com2kid`	`oh just random graphical crud`
`05:47.05`	`com2kid`	`graphical garbage in menus, things like that`
`05:47.49`	`vikas`	`i think its the e16 package in elive`
`05:48.02`	`com2kid`	`how odd.`
`05:48.05`	`vikas`	`upgrade the e16 package andu'll be fine`
`05:48.11`	`com2kid`	`Normally debian stuff is so stable`
`05:48.20`	`com2kid`	`Hmm, I wonder how well that would go over on a livecd`
`05:48.30`	`vikas`	`reinstall-sure-package e16`
`05:48.40`	`vikas`	`use that to re-install e16 and u'll be fine`
`05:48.57`	`vikas`	`ah ok`
`05:49.08`	`vikas`	`i've install elive on the HD and working fine`
`05:49.33`	`com2kid`	`now actually installing would take all the fun out of it`
`05:49.35`	`vikas`	`a couple of problems with e16 package, but re-installed it and now i'm fine`
`05:49.42`	`com2kid`	`as it is, running from CD it is faster than Gentoo. !!!`
`05:49.55`	`vikas`	`:)`
`05:50.17`	`com2kid`	`...`
`05:50.20`	`com2kid`	`it just removed e16`
`05:50.27`	`com2kid`	`but failed to reinstall it`
`05:50.27`	`com2kid`	`...`
`05:50.29`	`com2kid`	`crap`
`05:51.36`	`com2kid`	`oh good, I ran it again and I think it worked`
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`05:55.55`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`05:56.13`	`com2kid`	`menu animations...`
`05:56.19`	`com2kid`	`that is what was causing the problems`
`05:56.21`	`com2kid`	`sigh`
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`06:25.17`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`07:12.49`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`07:13.13`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
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`07:15.22`	`donkey_dik`	`heya`
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`07:49.34`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`07:49.59`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`07:55.50`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`08:06.43`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`08:07.48`	`Elive-03_user`	`hay alguien?`
`08:09.30`	`Elive-03_user`	`bue... vuelvo mañana, encontre un problema (con la configuracion del mouse)en el booteo de elive, pero hay una solucion...`
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`08:41.54`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`08:49.50`	`Anarien`	`buenos dias`
`08:51.38`	`Anarien`	`hay alguien por aqui?`
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`08:54.54`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`09:02.00`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`09:20.11`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`09:24.13`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, buenos dias`
`09:24.17`	`sinplomo`	`y a todos tmb`
`09:24.19`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
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`09:27.28`	`Anarien`	`hola sinplomo ,oie tengo un problema XD`
`09:27.53`	`Anarien`	`tu tienes la elive instalada?`
`09:29.10`	`sinplomo`	`no`
`09:30.03`	`Anarien`	`bueno es igual, me va a tocar hacerlo a mano entonces... XD`
`09:30.09`	`Anarien`	`gracias igualmente`
`09:30.34`	`sinplomo`	`pide`
`09:30.38`	`sinplomo`	`igual te puedo ayudar`
`09:30.54`	`Anarien`	`no, si no tienes la elive no me puedes ayudar`
`09:31.25`	`Anarien`	`era para que me pasases por DCC tu file.menu de la e16 por que me lo he cargado XD`
`09:32.07`	`Anarien`	`pensaba que me crearia automaticamente un old y no hice copia del fichero`
`09:32.15`	`sinplomo`	`tengo uno`
`09:32.17`	`sinplomo`	`de Elive`
`09:32.23`	`sinplomo`	`pero bastante tocado`
`09:32.31`	`Anarien`	`es igual no te preocupes lo haré a mano`
`09:32.31`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`09:33.36`	`Anarien`	`no, es que en general me gustaba bastante como estaba el predefinido de la e16 salvo 2 o 3 cosillas que le habia modificado,por eso preferia exactamente ese para copiarlo y no tener que hacerlo todo a mano xD`
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`09:34.01`	`Anarien`	`de todas maneras muchas gracias`
`09:34.24`	`sinplomo`	`de nada`
`09:34.34`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, si ya has tocado el file.menu anteriormente`
`09:34.42`	`sinplomo`	`mira si tienes file.menu~`
`09:35.12`	`Anarien`	`no no, eso es lo que yo creia (por eso no hice copia del fichero), desgraciadamente no ha sido asi.. XD`
`09:35.37`	`sinplomo`	`XDDD`
`09:40.46`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: pasame ese que tienes tu anda, al menos para guairme un poco con los separadores y los programas que me coincidan con los que quiero tener, por que no veas que movida!1 xD`
`09:41.59`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, ahi tienes`
`09:42.54`	`Anarien`	`donde?xD, no me llega ninguna ventana`
`09:43.08`	`Anarien`	`da igual dejalo, ya lo tengo casi controlado`
`09:43.10`	`sinplomo`	`juer`
`09:43.20`	`sinplomo`	`puto d**`
`09:43.22`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`09:43.36`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, http://issam.no-ip.org/file.menu`
`09:43.43`	`Anarien`	`asias`
`09:44.09`	`sinplomo`	`de nada`
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`09:49.30`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, sirve ?`
`09:49.39`	`Anarien`	`vale,me ha quedado perfecto,muchas gracias sinplomo`
`09:49.43`	`Anarien`	`si si gracias :)`
`09:49.58`	`sinplomo`	`de nada :)`
`09:50.29`	`Anarien`	`para otra vez ya se lo que tengo que hacer... (copia rigurosa de fichero antes de tocar nada! xDDD)`
`09:51.10`	`Anarien`	`y mira que normalmente lo hago,pero siempre hay alguna vez que uno se confia...`
`09:51.23`	`Anarien`	`y entonces es cuando se K-ga XD`
`09:56.08`	`Anarien`	`--- Desconectado (Conexión reinicializada por la máquina remota). <-- que asco de hispano,lleva asi media hora`
`09:56.10`	`sinplomo`	`«En VoipBuster están ofreciendo llamadas gratis de ordenador a teléfonos fijos entre una lista de 21 países: España, Canada, USA, Portugal, Suiza, UK... La tarifa para teléfonos móviles u otros países es irrisoria. Como ejemplo, el precio para llamar a un fijo en Italia es 1.6 cents/min y a un móvil 24.7 cents/min. Nótese que las llamadas gratis son de duración máxima un minuto, pero si haces un depósito de tan sólo 1€, desaparece esa li`
`09:56.11`	`sinplomo`	`mitación. El programa que ofrecen es sólo para windows y no funciona en Wine, pero como usan IAX es posible conectarse mediante cualquier cliente que lo soporte. He encontrado un HOWTO (en Inglés) con las instrucciones para configurarlo desde Linux/OS X/Solaris. >>`
`09:56.59`	`sinplomo`	`10:02:04] (((ADAM)))) solo valiente dice:`
`09:56.59`	`sinplomo`	`quienes debian`
`09:57.04`	`sinplomo`	`10:02:11] Sin Plomo \|\| http://sinplomo.bitacoras.com \|\| Debian cumple 12 años !! \|\| dice:`
`09:57.05`	`sinplomo`	`www.debian.org`
`09:57.05`	`sinplomo`	`[10:02:17] (((ADAM)))) solo valiente dice:`
`09:57.05`	`sinplomo`	`xk`
`09:57.17`	`sinplomo`	`¬¬'`
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`09:57.22`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`09:57.24`	`sinplomo`	`yo desde luego que cierro el amsn ahor`
`09:57.25`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`09:58.17`	`Anarien`	`-- Conectando a dune.landsraad.net (212.59.199.130) puerto`
`09:58.25`	`Anarien`	`--- Fallo en la conexión. Error: Conexión rehusada`
`09:58.25`	`Anarien`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:58.27`	`Anarien`	`pffffffffff`
`09:58.33`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, intenta con andromeda.irc-hispano.org`
`09:58.38`	`sinplomo`	`y si no va andromeda`
`09:58.40`	`Anarien`	`oka voy`
`09:58.44`	`Anarien`	`carme?`
`09:58.48`	`sinplomo`	`pos intenta con luna.irc-hispano.org`
`09:59.40`	`Anarien`	`ya está, andromeda me ha entrado a la primera`
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`10:05.25`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`10:11.07`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`10:11.08`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
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`10:13.54`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`10:16.00`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`10:16.38`	`eshep`	`apt x en es has anyone tried to use a prism54 card with elive`
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`10:26.38`	`piz`	`hooola!`
`10:26.54`	`piz`	`acabo de descubrir http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2005/8580.html esto`
`10:27.08`	`piz`	`oh, ThanaZzzz esta durmiendo?`
`10:27.13`	`piz`	`demiasiada fiesta?`
`10:27.24`	`Enlighted`	`ThanaZzzz,`
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`10:27.33`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`10:27.35`	`Enlighted`	`tengo que revisarte con urgencia toda la web`
`10:27.41`	`Enlighted`	`pq tu ingles es horrible`
`10:27.43`	`Enlighted`	`XDD`
`10:28.12`	`piz`	`lo ha escrito el? pensaba que no sabia nada de ingles`
`10:28.14`	`piz`	`;)`
`10:28.24`	`Enlighted`	`y no sabe`
`10:28.26`	`Enlighted`	`jaja`
`10:28.39`	`piz`	`un desastre, vaya`
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`10:28.54`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`10:29.01`	`Enlighted`	`bastante, bastante`
`10:29.54`	`Enlighted`	`uhm...el tema stale es sexy...:D`
`10:30.05`	`Enlighted`	`slate`
`10:30.06`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`10:30.29`	`Elive_user`	`elive is nice :-)`
`10:30.42`	`Enlighted`	`yeah`
`10:30.55`	`Enlighted`	`try the new themes installable via synaptic`
`10:31.04`	`Enlighted`	`they are even more sexy than default one`
`10:31.05`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`10:32.57`	`Elive_user`	`thanks ...`
`10:33.46`	`Elive_user`	`i like the e17 default theme ... but have to check all other themes ...`
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`10:38.11`	`Enlighted`	`ree`
`10:38.19`	`Enlighted`	`qué majos son los segfaults :D`
`10:40.06`	`Enlighted`	`apt, xmms`
`10:40.08`	`apt`	`methinks xmms is able to use the artsd .. but i dont think that bzflag got an artsd output plugin`
`10:40.15`	`Enlighted`	`apt, xmms skins`
`10:40.30`	`Enlighted`	`apt, skins`
`10:40.31`	`apt`	`rumour has it, skins is at http://skinz.org. Skins are available for nearly everything.`
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`10:44.41`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
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`10:44.42`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
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`11:01.11`	`mflaig`	`awesome ... 1 MByte / s ... nice download servers :-)`
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`11:02.23`	`Enlighted`	`uhm`
`11:02.33`	`mflaig`	`wasn't there something like an file shell in e17?`
`11:02.48`	`mflaig`	`efm?`
`11:03.12`	`Enlighted`	`an advice....the start menu icon is a source of segfaults...if you are tired of them, go to the Modules section and deactivate it`
`11:03.47`	`Enlighted`	`un consejo: el boton del menu inicio es una fuente inagotable de segfaults....si estais hartos de ellos, id al menu - Modulos - Inicio y desactivadlo`
`11:03.57`	`Enlighted`	`(solo en E17 / only in E17)`
`11:04.00`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`11:05.59`	`Enlighted`	`por cierto, ibox powa`
`11:06.01`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`11:07.03`	`mflaig`	`i have installed the other themes via synaptics, but they don't show up in the menu... restarting e17 doesn't seem to help ...`
`11:07.14`	`Enlighted`	`mflaig,`
`11:07.21`	`Enlighted`	`apt, themes`
`11:07.34`	`Enlighted`	`oh, wait`
`11:07.47`	`Enlighted`	`cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes`
`11:07.52`	`Enlighted`	`put this command in console`
`11:08.05`	`Enlighted`	`it'll fix it`
`11:09.17`	`mflaig`	`i'm comfortable with the shell ... this did the trick ... nice :-)`
`11:12.47`	logik`	`plop`
`11:13.01`	`Enlighted`	`configure it and you'll be even more comfortable`
`11:13.12`	`Enlighted`	`activating ibox, por example`
`11:13.23`	`Enlighted`	`to show minimized apps`
`11:13.48`	`mflaig`	`got it already ... :)`
`11:13.54`	`Enlighted`	`hehe`
`11:14.09`	`mflaig`	`i have used e16 some years ago...`
`11:15.10`	`Enlighted`	`best of all: E17 only uses 5 mb of memory`
`11:15.14`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
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`11:23.21`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`11:24.13`	`Elive_user`	`hello! anyone installed elive 0.3 to harddisk yet?`
`11:24.25`	`sHR00m`	`yes i did`
`11:24.27`	`sHR00m`	`last night`
`11:25.01`	`Enlighted`	`me too`
`11:25.11`	`Enlighted`	`has some bugs but it's nice`
`11:25.21`	`Elive_user`	`thinking about switching from Debian 3.1 Sarge to this one, any bugs or any problems worth mentioning?`
`11:25.25`	`sHR00m`	`yes but the system is very usable :)`
`11:25.40`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, if you remove the start menu icon`
`11:25.42`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`11:25.56`	`sHR00m`	`Enlighted, hmm? i did`
`11:26.03`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user, start menu icons causes a lot of segfaults when selected`
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`11:26.06`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`11:26.07`	`eshep`	`i did but my keyboard mapping is wrong`
`11:26.12`	`Elive_user`	`I just love enlightenment, love the speed and eye-candy`
`11:26.16`	`Enlighted`	`apart from it..`
`11:26.17`	`sHR00m`	`Enlighted, but i never had problems with it`
`11:26.19`	`sHR00m`	`absolutely`
`11:26.27`	`Enlighted`	`oh, lucky you`
`11:26.29`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`11:26.35`	`sHR00m`	`theme changing can enforce an segfault`
`11:26.41`	`Elive_user`	`aren't the menu editable? or sumtin' ? :)`
`11:26.48`	`sHR00m`	`but since the screen doesnt break.. :)`
`11:26.56`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, e16menuedit :)`
`11:26.59`	`sHR00m`	`Elive_user, yes they are`
`11:27.31`	`Enlighted`	`what theme are u using?`
`11:27.39`	`eshep`	`e17 and e16 menus are different`
`11:27.40`	`sHR00m`	`gant :)`
`11:27.43`	`Enlighted`	`(and theme change never segfaulted me D:)`
`11:27.52`	`Elive_user`	`running e17 right now`
`11:28.03`	`Enlighted`	`slate :D`
`11:28.04`	`mflaig`	`Enlighted, ... Here at work I mostly use debian sid / gnome, so I have more than 700 Megs of Ram ... e17`
`11:28.06`	`sHR00m`	`Enlighted, tonight anyone was here with the same problem ;)`
`11:28.28`	`Enlighted`	`mflaig, E17 uses only 5 mbs of RAM`
`11:28.31`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`11:28.43`	`felix`	`Enlighted: really?`
`11:28.51`	`Enlighted`	`felix, sip`
`11:28.59`	`sHR00m`	`if you deactivate all modules maybe`
`11:29.13`	`Enlighted`	`i have ibar, ibox, shadow...`
`11:29.18`	`Elive_user`	`this thing is about the same speed as debian sarge, and it's running from cd..`
`11:29.18`	`sHR00m`	`start button resize`
`11:29.20`	`sHR00m`	`:)`
`11:29.22`	`felix`	`Enlighted: 10941 felix 15 0 59036 13m 1752 S 2.0 11.1 24:33.48 enlightenment-0`
`11:29.25`	`sHR00m`	`i like it`
`11:29.29`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`11:29.31`	`sHR00m`	`glow`
`11:29.58`	`Enlighted`	`The only thing I would wanna know is how can I change wallpaper with a custom image I have`
`11:30.02`	`Enlighted`	`:(`
`11:30.08`	`Elive_user`	`is 3Gb enough for / ?`
`11:30.11`	`sHR00m`	`Enlighted, thats no problem`
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`11:30.14`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`11:30.21`	`felix`	`Enlighted: e17setroot`
`11:30.25`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, tell me :D`
`11:30.28`	`felix`	`Enlighted: it worked for me`
`11:30.29`	`Enlighted`	`?`
`11:30.43`	`Enlighted`	`e17setroot? is that a command?`
`11:30.47`	`sHR00m`	`mom`
`11:30.56`	`felix`	`Enlighted: yeah`
`11:31.11`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, u were going to say the same?`
`11:31.11`	`Elive_user`	`e17setroot - filename?`
`11:31.18`	`felix`	`Enlighted: I'm not using elive, but gentoo (with e17, of course)`
`11:31.24`	`sHR00m`	`Enlighted, i would make an edj file out of the source pic and put it in .e/e/backgrounds`
`11:31.26`	`felix`	`Elive_user: i think so`
`11:31.42`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, how can I convert it?`
`11:31.48`	`sHR00m`	`cause enlightenment uses edj files for linking and backgrounds, a binary format to improve performance and flexibility`
`11:31.53`	`sHR00m`	`theres some tool.. i look`
`11:32.07`	`Enlighted`	`hope it's included in elive`
`11:32.09`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`11:33.50`	`eshep`	`i need some help fixing my keymap`
`11:34.14`	`mflaig`	`e17 is relly nice... are there any projects in the queue for building an browser / mail client / etc. with the enlightenment libs?`
`11:34.26`	`felix`	`eshep: what kind of problem do you have?`
`11:34.43`	`Enlighted`	`mflaig, no idea, but look in www.enlightenment.org`
`11:34.51`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, setxkbmap en`
`11:34.56`	`sHR00m`	`To create an edj file from any image, use e17setroot:`
`11:34.56`	`sHR00m`	`e17setroot -s /home/username/picture.png`
`11:34.56`	`Enlighted`	`to see if there's any`
`11:35.10`	`eshep`	`i have a jp106`
`11:35.10`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, thxxx`
`11:35.13`	`sinplomo`	`or edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and restart X`
`11:35.28`	`sHR00m`	`then in /.e/e/backgrounds`
`11:35.34`	`sHR00m`	`and set the background with emblem`
`11:35.55`	`felix`	`eshep: changing keymap is not an e17 issue.`
`11:36.53`	`eshep`	`im in e16 hd install`
`11:36.58`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, it automatically saves it in this directory?`
`11:37.10`	`sHR00m`	`Enlighted, no you must put it in`
`11:37.24`	`Enlighted`	`u are wrong`
`11:37.28`	`Enlighted`	`it saves automatically`
`11:37.30`	`sHR00m`	`yes?`
`11:37.39`	`Enlighted`	`I have now it as background :D thx`
`11:37.41`	`Enlighted`	`yea`
`11:37.41`	`sinplomo`	`eshep,`
`11:37.44`	`Enlighted`	`E17 powalola`
`11:37.46`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, setxkbmap en`
`11:37.48`	`sinplomo`	`or edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and restart X`
`11:37.48`	`sHR00m`	`after the e17setroot directly?`
`11:37.50`	`eshep`	`sinploma, setxkbmap tells me Cannot open display "default display"`
`11:37.56`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, yes`
`11:37.58`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, as user not root :)`
`11:38.00`	`sHR00m`	`ok, nice`
`11:38.18`	`eshep`	`sinploma, ok`
`11:38.39`	`Enlighted`	`lol, when u change wallpaper, it fades from one to another`
`11:38.42`	`Enlighted`	`how cool`
`11:38.43`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`11:39.01`	`sinplomo`	`xP`
`11:39.16`	`eshep`	`sinploma, i get Error loading new keyboard description`
`11:39.29`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, try with us`
`11:39.40`	`sinplomo`	`setxbmap us`
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`11:40.59`	`Anarien`	`buenas`
`11:41.01`	`eshep`	`sinploma, command worked, do i need to rstart x?`
`11:41.03`	`Enlighted`	`Anarien, jolas`
`11:41.36`	`Anarien`	`hola Enlighted :)`
`11:41.57`	`Anarien`	`!elive bot`
`11:42.08`	`Anarien`	`umm`
`11:42.18`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, i don't think so`
`11:42.21`	`Anarien`	`!elive-bot`
`11:42.26`	`sinplomo`	`but you must edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4`
`11:42.38`	`eshep`	`sinploma, doing that now`
`11:43.04`	`sinplomo`	`eshep,`
`11:43.04`	`sinplomo`	`Section "InputDevice"`
`11:43.05`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:43.05`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:43.05`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:43.05`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:43.09`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:43.11`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:43.13`	`sinplomo`	`EndSection`
`11:43.16`	`sinplomo`	`you will see something like that`
`11:43.43`	`sinplomo`	`change fr ( or anything else) to us ( or your keymap )`
`11:43.49`	`Enlighted`	`sHR00m, not only copies the wallpaper in /.e/e/backgrounds automatically, but it puts your new image as the default background`
`11:43.52`	`Enlighted`	`^^`
`11:43.56`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, ThanaZzzz`
`11:43.59`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`estais?`
`11:44.00`	`sHR00m`	`i see`
`11:44.04`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, tu que crees`
`11:44.08`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xD`
`11:44.14`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, tengo una duda existencial`
`11:44.18`	`sinplomo`	`dispara`
`11:44.19`	`eshep`	`sinploma, what do i put for options?`
`11:44.22`	`Elive_user`	`mmm. installing... is reiserfs a problem in elive? just found ext2 ext3 filesystems, mounted old /home as reiserfs ?`
`11:44.24`	`sinplomo`	`( sin matarme )`
`11:44.29`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, nothing`
`11:44.31`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`al juego, q le meto, un menu dentro del juego tipico, o un lanzador en gtk?`
`11:44.37`	`sinplomo`	`just change your keymap`
`11:44.50`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, hum`
`11:44.58`	`sinplomo`	`mejor un menu dentro de juego`
`11:45.02`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ok`
`11:45.03`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xD`
`11:45.12`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`yo q pensaba q esta era mi oportunidad pa aprender gtk xD`
`11:45.16`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`en fin`
`11:45.16`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xD`
`11:45.22`	`eshep`	`sinploma, restarting x, be back soon`
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`11:45.27`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`11:45.30`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`weno de toas formas voy a retocar algunas cosas antes de ponerme con el menu`
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`11:46.49`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`11:46.55`	`felix`	`anybody knows a url to download enlightenment themes?`
`11:47.12`	`sinplomo`	`felix, get-e.org :)`
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`11:47.25`	`sinplomo`	`theme.freashmet.net :=)`
`11:47.25`	`Elive_user`	`deviant art has some i think www.deviantart.com`
`11:47.26`	`felix`	`sinplomo: thanks`
`11:47.33`	`sinplomo`	`felix, de nada`
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`11:47.41`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
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`11:47.52`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`11:47.55`	`felix`	`sinplomo: please go to www.get-e.org`
`11:48.04`	`sinplomo`	`felix, why ?`
`11:48.06`	`Elive_user2`	`Hi up to everyone!!!!!!!!11`
`11:48.08`	`sinplomo`	`i am very busy`
`11:48.09`	`felix`	`http://www.get-e.org/ => Welcome to Your New Home in Cyberspace! (hosting)`
`11:48.14`	`felix`	`sinplomo: please, go to that url`
`11:48.33`	`felix`	`sinplomo: tell me what you see...`
`11:48.37`	`eshep`	`sinplomo, it did'nt work`
`11:48.46`	`Enlighted`	`snif snif`
`11:49.11`	`felix`	`Enlighted: it tooks a lot of cpu usage those cool things`
`11:49.20`	`sinplomo`	`felix, the site is down`
`11:49.26`	`felix`	`sinplomo: hehe`
`11:49.34`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, O_o`
`11:49.35`	`Enlighted`	`felix, i know but they can be activated or deactivated, if u don't want them`
`11:49.41`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`11:49.44`	`sinplomo`	`you have an us keyboard ?`
`11:49.49`	`Enlighted`	`but some ppl would love them`
`11:50.16`	`felix`	`Enlighted: i loved them... but i don't have enough ram or cpu to make it works`
`11:50.38`	`felix`	`Enlighted: now... i love E17 shadows ... :-P`
`11:50.52`	`Enlighted`	`love them too, believe me`
`11:50.58`	`Enlighted`	`...but they aren't real shadows`
`11:51.00`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`11:51.04`	`Elive_user2`	`It is the first time I run elive.`
`11:51.08`	`Elive_user2`	`I'm floating...`
`11:51.15`	`eshep`	`sinplomo, it's a jp106 but i use it in english`
`11:51.17`	`Kudozero`	`Incredible`
`11:51.19`	`Enlighted`	`Kudozero, like me`
`11:51.21`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`11:51.24`	`Kudozero`	`jsjsjjs`
`11:51.25`	`felix`	`Enlighted: ther aren't real shadows but is enough for me`
`11:51.26`	`Kudozero`	`incredible`
`11:51.33`	`Enlighted`	`i have installed on HD and configured properly`
`11:51.37`	`Enlighted`	`^^`
`11:51.54`	`felix`	`Kudozero: what's incredible?`
`11:52.02`	`Kudozero`	`graphically`
`11:52.06`	`sHR00m`	`hrhr`
`11:52.26`	`felix`	`Kudozero: :)`
`11:52.36`	`Kudozero`	`What is going to happen if I install it on hd?=?=?`
`11:52.41`	`Kudozero`	`like DSLinux?`
`11:52.51`	`Kudozero`	`Disaster`
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`11:52.59`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`11:53.19`	`felix`	`Kudozero: you can speak spanish if you like...`
`11:53.33`	`Enlighted`	`felix, y tu tb`
`11:53.35`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`11:53.40`	`felix`	`Enlighted: me?`
`11:53.49`	`Enlighted`	`aren't u spanish? :D`
`11:53.51`	`Enlighted`	`haha`
`11:53.57`	`Kudozero`	`What do you say that?`
`11:53.59`	`felix`	`Enlighted: no... i'm not spanish`
`11:54.17`	`Enlighted`	`Kudozero, if u wanna install it in the HD, just create a partition for it`
`11:54.17`	`Elive_user2`	`wait... wait`
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`11:54.27`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`11:54.28`	`felix`	`Elive_user2: i'm waiting`
`11:54.41`	`Elive_user2`	`how to switch from norwegian to russian?`
`11:55.17`	`Elive_user2`	`I cannot found indicator of speak`
`11:55.18`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, hola !`
`11:55.20`	`sinplomo`	`que hay ?`
`11:55.56`	`felix`	`Elive_user2: I don't know... you need a keyboard switcher for e17?`
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`11:55.58`	`Kudozero`	`Hola tio`
`11:55.58`	`Kudozero`	`me lees?`
`11:56.02`	`felix`	`s/you/do you/`
`11:56.02`	`Enlighted`	`si`
`11:56.04`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`11:56.06`	`felix`	`Kudozero: S�`
`11:56.13`	`sHR00m`	`shr00m@elive[~]$ setxkbmap de`
`11:56.14`	`sHR00m`	`shr00m@elive[~]$ setxkbmap ru`
`11:56.27`	`sHR00m`	`Elive_user3`
`11:56.29`	`sHR00m`	`uh 2`
`11:56.31`	`Kudozero`	`Enlighted, i got it. partition`
`11:56.54`	`Kudozero`	`Y qué necesita -de hardware-`
`11:56.56`	`Kudozero`	`tengo varias máquins`
`11:57.03`	`sinplomo`	`sHR00m, never forget editing /etc/X11/XF86Config-4`
`11:57.08`	`Kudozero`	`me interesaría que rulase en un intelDotstation cel600 128mb`
`11:57.10`	`Kudozero`	`tira?`
`11:57.17`	`Elive_user2`	`for E16`
`11:57.18`	`Kudozero`	`la gŕfica es una i810`
`11:57.25`	`sHR00m`	`sinplomo, isnt there an assistant or something for this?`
`11:57.33`	`mflaig`	`cya later ...`
`11:57.35`	`sHR00m`	`an dpk-reconfigure or so`
`11:57.38`	`mflaig`	`nice chan btw ... :-)`
`11:57.44`	`sinplomo`	`sHR00m, it's very easy ...`
`11:58.05`	`Elive_user`	`bye`
`11:58.11`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, esa maquina es esa que parece una tele ?`
`11:58.12`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`11:58.17`	`sinplomo`	`paquito no ?`
`11:58.54`	`sinplomo`	`sHR00m, sudo scite /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 :))))`
`11:58.58`	`Enlighted`	`Kudozero, E17 es muy ligero`
`11:59.02`	`Enlighted`	`creo k te tirará`
`11:59.12`	`felix`	`sinplomo: scite es el editor que trae elive?`
`11:59.19`	`sinplomo`	`felix, si`
`11:59.31`	`sinplomo`	`joder`
`11:59.34`	`Kudozero`	`sí sinplomo , sí Enlighted`
`11:59.36`	`sinplomo`	`como se asusta la gente ...`
`11:59.39`	`Kudozero`	`17 cms`
`11:59.46`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, esa maquina venia de serie con linux`
`11:59.49`	`Kudozero`	`de placa`
`11:59.56`	`sHR00m`	`sinplomo, its not the problem but you can set it on live-cd per icons, what was cool`
`11:59.57`	`Kudozero`	`a mí me llegó con xp home`
`11:59.59`	`sinplomo`	`de hecho, hasta su winmodem rula en linux`
`12:00.10`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, santamarte debianizo esas maquinas una vez`
`12:00.13`	`sinplomo`	`o eso creo`
`12:00.21`	`Elive_user2`	`thank you for help. and bay`
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`12:00.29`	`Kudozero`	`quien es santamarte`
`12:00.29`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`12:00.38`	`felix`	`Elive_user2: bye`
`12:00.44`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, santamarte`
`12:00.47`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, santamarta`
`12:00.50`	`sinplomo`	`mira en debian-es`
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`12:01.02`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`12:01.02`	`Kudozero`	`Pues a mí me va de pena`
`12:01.06`	`Kudozero`	`que'entorno gráfico`
`12:01.08`	`Kudozero`	`?¿?¿?`
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`12:01.19`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`12:01.26`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, yo en esa maquina usaria e16 con linux ...`
`12:01.33`	`sinplomo`	`y si veo que va lento`
`12:01.39`	`sinplomo`	`pos icewm`
`12:01.45`	`sinplomo`	`y si sigue llendo lenta`
`12:01.47`	`sinplomo`	`tty pura`
`12:01.51`	`sinplomo`	`no hay mal en eso :)`
`12:01.56`	`eshep`	`sinplomo, guess what, i'm stupid, i needed to set to jp for a jp106`
`12:01.57`	`Kudozero`	`ya`
`12:02.05`	`sHR00m`	`hrhr`
`12:02.08`	`Kudozero`	`lo que va al pelo es DamnSmallLinux...`
`12:02.12`	`Kudozero`	`esto yhaciendo pruebecillas`
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`12:02.21`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`12:03.05`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, cuando este santamarta en el canal preguntale`
`12:03.20`	`sinplomo`	`creo que fue el quien me dijo que debianizo esas mquinas`
`12:03.33`	`Kudozero`	`en debian-es`
`12:03.34`	`Kudozero`	`?==?`
`12:03.35`	`eshep`	`sinplomo, thanks for the help, now i just have to get my prism54 going and i'll be set`
`12:03.38`	`sinplomo`	`y hay varias webs que explican como hacer que rule con debian perfectamente`
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`12:03.42`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`12:03.44`	`sinplomo`	`eshep, :)`
`12:03.51`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, pero ahora no esta`
`12:04.02`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, no vendria mal que le pusieras mas ram :)`
`12:04.33`	`Kudozero`	`ya pero la placa no se traga cualquier cosa`
`12:04.37`	`Kudozero`	`es un porculo`
`12:04.39`	`Kudozero`	`le he probado`
`12:04.43`	`Kudozero`	`pero no se la traga`
`12:04.54`	`Kudozero`	`quiere 1 cara pero "pija"`
`12:05.09`	`Kudozero`	`Oye, leones,... esto es debian puro=`
`12:05.10`	`Kudozero`	`?¿?¿`
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`12:06.33`	`Kudozero`	`quiro decir si elive es debian puro y duro...`
`12:06.43`	`Kudozero`	`los sources.list veo que bastante... no?`
`12:07.40`	`felix`	`Kudozero: imposible que sea debian puro y duro porque me parece que no hay repositorios oficiales de e17`
`12:08.54`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, esta basado en debian`
`12:09.00`	`sinplomo`	`y es compatible con los repos de debian`
`12:09.08`	`sinplomo`	`y al hacer un upgrade no casca`
`12:09.14`	`sinplomo`	`como las knoppix`
`12:09.19`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, http://aleasoft.iespana.es/dot.html`
`12:09.30`	`sinplomo`	`http://bulma.net/impresion.phtml?nIdNoticia=1802`
`12:09.55`	`Kudozero`	`mola mola`
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`12:10.13`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`12:10.33`	`Kudozero`	`me mola mucho sinplomo`
`12:10.40`	`Kudozero`	`oye dónde está el script de instalación?`
`12:10.50`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, en elive ?`
`12:11.01`	`sinplomo`	`ejecuta el elive control panel`
`12:11.05`	`Kudozero`	`y... el e17 es más rápido que el e16?`
`12:11.07`	`sinplomo`	`esta en la engage misma :)`
`12:11.07`	`Kudozero`	`me decís?`
`12:11.10`	`sinplomo`	`Kudozero, si`
`12:11.13`	`sinplomo`	`pero ya te digo`
`12:11.26`	`sinplomo`	`puede darte un segfault cuando le salga de los huevos`
`12:11.33`	`sinplomo`	`esta un poco inestable e incompleto`
`12:11.51`	`sinplomo`	`prueba a fondo las dos cosas y quedate con uno`
`12:11.53`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`12:30.33`	`eshep`	`Enlighted, have you gotten an ati card with elive?`
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`12:30.33`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`12:32.15`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ThanaZzzz,`
`12:32.16`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`tas?`
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`12:33.21`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`12:34.20`	`tina`	`hola`
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`12:39.47`	`Elive_user10`	`xD`
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`12:40.08`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user10`
`12:40.10`	`Elive_user10`	`xDDDD`
`12:40.17`	`Elive_user10`	`como mola`
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`12:40.58`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
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`12:43.05`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
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`12:48.31`	`liberion`	`hey guys anyone thinking of building an opengl e17 binary for repo??`
`12:57.33`	`tina`	`apuff,los canales en bitchX no se cambiaban con Alt +1,+2,+3 blabla?`
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`12:59.23`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
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`13:11.01`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:11.03`	`CGA`	`hola`
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`13:12.11`	`ThanaZzzz`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:16.02`	`ThanaZzzz`	`RasKolniKoV, pong`
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`13:17.03`	`HandyAndE`	`lo`
`13:17.13`	`CGA`	`moo`
`13:17.47`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: was talking to some E admins and we thought that elive should be included in the "E suit" of sites we are rolling out this weekend`
`13:18.09`	`Enlighted`	`eshep, nvidia`
`13:18.12`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`13:18.59`	`Enlighted`	`I was playing with my nephew, sorry`
`13:19.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi HandyAndE`
`13:19.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh`
`13:19.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en fr was talking to some E admins and we thought that elive should be included in the "E suit" of sites we are rolling out this weekend`
`13:20.00`	`HandyAndE`	`hey`
`13:20.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`what are "E suit" ?`
`13:20.35`	`HandyAndE`	`all E sites are being "unified" (made to match(`
`13:20.43`	`HandyAndE`	`e.org - get-e.org - edevelop.org`
`13:20.51`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, nasss`
`13:20.53`	`Enlighted`	`^^`
`13:20.57`	`HandyAndE`	`and we thought elivecd.org should too`
`13:21.16`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, not a bad idea`
`13:21.17`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`13:21.51`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, te tengo que corregir el ingles de la web...es bastante...er....horrible`
`13:21.55`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`13:22.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`13:22.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`the sites are unified ? Im not really understand... you speak for the links etc.. ?`
`13:22.54`	`HandyAndE`	`no`
`13:22.58`	`HandyAndE`	`they all look the same`
`13:23.06`	`HandyAndE`	`rasterman.com/e2 - they all look like that`
`13:23.09`	`HandyAndE`	`and they link to eachother`
`13:23.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, have the same look the web page`
`13:23.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`?`
`13:23.28`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, es como un ring de sitios`
`13:23.38`	`Enlighted`	`mas o menos`
`13:23.39`	`CGA`	`ma solo de sitio de E`
`13:23.50`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, y daria un mazo de publicidad a la distro`
`13:23.51`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:23.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, no acabo de entender bien que quiere decir o que es`
`13:23.52`	`CGA`	`mas o meno verdad`
`13:24.02`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, unificar las webs`
`13:24.07`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, no ablo espagnol soi italiano but i try :P`
`13:24.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`its good CGA ;)`
`13:24.24`	`Enlighted`	`hacer que la web del elive "forme parte" de la del Enlightenment`
`13:24.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, y en que consiste eso? porque la palabra no me dice mucho`
`13:24.31`	`Enlighted`	`mas o menos`
`13:24.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`aha`
`13:24.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero eso en que se basa? en que esté alojada en la misma pagina ?`
`13:24.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`en el mismo server...`
`13:24.55`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, es buena cosa , mucho buene trust me`
`13:24.56`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, are u an E dev? or enlightenment.org web manager?`
`13:25.01`	`Enlighted`	`(or something)`
`13:25.02`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: both`
`13:25.38`	`Enlighted`	`cool`
`13:25.54`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, es un developer de las E, y un mantenedor de la web oficial`
`13:26.03`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`13:26.03`	`tina`	`piticlin`
`13:26.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://distroreviews.com/index.php?view=138 !!!`
`13:26.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`good :)`
`13:26.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, si si, lo se`
`13:26.52`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, Thanatermesis is one of the distro maintainers, and i'm his (unofficial) translator`
`13:27.18`	`CGA`	`good article , i'm gooing to read it`
`13:27.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, sorry, Im recent wake up and I my mind works slow in this moments lol`
`13:27.43`	`Enlighted`	`ese "I" sobraba`
`13:27.44`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:28.09`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, you should tell them to correct the article.. they say that Elivce is 3.0 when is 0.3`
`13:28.40`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, tu distro se esta haciendo famosilla`
`13:28.41`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:28.55`	`Enlighted`	`ya iba haciendo falta una distro con las E como entorno`
`13:29.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`...itory.' The Elive 3.0 package list can b...`
`13:29.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`13:29.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`boh, not is my error, the persons looks the web page looks the good number`
`13:29.25`	`Anarien`	`es que es la mejor (actualmente es la mas avanzada del entorno enlightenment)`
`13:29.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, claro ;)`
`13:29.47`	`Enlighted`	`Anarien, y eso que lleva solo 2 versiones`
`13:29.49`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:29.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, entonces... que queria decir "unificar" ?`
`13:29.57`	`Anarien`	`os lo dice una que hace años que usa ese entorno`
`13:30.07`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, visita www.enlightenment.org`
`13:30.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`aha`
`13:30.23`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: no te dejes enredar que estos han visto el chollo XD`
`13:30.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDD Anarien`
`13:30.53`	`Anarien`	`es que luego todo se sabe y... :D`
`13:30.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk, no creo que 0.3 tarde tanto en bootear xD`
`13:31.14`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, a ver`
`13:31.16`	`Enlighted`	`para aclararnos`
`13:31.30`	`Enlighted`	`CREO que quiere decir incluir tu distro como una seccion mas de esa web`
`13:31.34`	`Enlighted`	`entens?`
`13:31.34`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`13:31.53`	`Enlighted`	`o al menos eso he entendido yo`
`13:32.05`	`Anarien`	`<Enlighted> Thanatermesis, y daria un mazo de publicidad a la distro <-- no se quien se la daria a quien... ejem`
`13:32.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`sHR00m, I have the final test prepaired ;) if you have time, Im send the package`
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`13:32.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:32.22`	`sHR00m`	`hi HandyAndE, thx for your great work. e17 is the only very well working wm on my notebook :)`
`13:32.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, tengo un paquete que puede acelerar mucho tu instalacion`
`13:32.30`	`sHR00m`	`hi Thanatermesis, sure`
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`13:32.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`13:33.07`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: como cuanto?, por que a mi me instala muy rapida eh`
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`13:33.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`13:33.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, you speak "unified" for include the link of Elive in the web pages of E ?`
`13:33.32`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: no lo he calculado pero no creo que llegue a mas de 10/15 minutos`
`13:33.33`	`Enlighted`	`Anarien, jolin`
`13:33.39`	`Enlighted`	`se lo darian mutuamente`
`13:33.40`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:33.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, pues haz la prueba, nota el resultado de esto sin que trabaje el disco: hdparm -tT /dev/hda`
`13:33.48`	`shift-u`	`:=`
`13:33.51`	`shift-u`	`:=)`
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`13:34.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
`13:34.49`	`Anarien`	`Enlighted: ya ya, pero tu no lo has enfocado asi, en todo caso tu frase deberia haber sido... "Thanatermesis ,os dariais publicidad mutuamente"`
`13:35.14`	`Anarien`	`ademas,no se por que me meto (yo no soy quien) XD`
`13:35.20`	`Anarien`	`solo daba mi opinión :)`
`13:35.25`	`Enlighted`	`jajaja`
`13:35.37`	`Enlighted`	`diria yo que las E no necesitan publicidad....`
`13:35.49`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Si, es que tiene una lectora de 16 x`
`13:35.50`	`Enlighted`	`sino un buen livecd, como este xD`
`13:35.50`	`dererk`	`:-\`
`13:35.51`	`Enlighted`	`no se`
`13:35.54`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, when i chose to install Elive which E is the default?`
`13:36.11`	`Anarien`	`Enlighted: ummm, pues estan bastante estancados ,que quieres que te diga....`
`13:36.32`	`Anarien`	`Enlighted: haze mucho que sigo esa web (se perfectamente de quien me hablas)`
`13:36.58`	`Anarien`	`punto pelota!, vamos a dejarlo aqui`
`13:37.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, what for "unified" exactly? include the web page of Elive link in e.org and get-e.org and same for the page of Elive ?`
`13:37.34`	`dererk`	`?=)`
`13:37.40`	`Anarien`	`hola dererk :)`
`13:37.57`	`Enlighted`	`Anarien, pero no su CVS`
`13:37.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, yes, E by default, this is the only WM with use, in entrance you select the WM by default... In any case I need to make a "panel of control" for Elive in the future... with your installation, you can give the posibility of add this panel`
`13:37.59`	`Enlighted`	`solo la web`
`13:38.01`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:38.46`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, you have mistaken my question, i asked you which E is chosen by default installation? E16 or E17?`
`13:39.24`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: --> /dev/hda:`
`13:39.24`	`Anarien`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:39.24`	`Anarien`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:39.34`	`Anarien`	`alaaa, que caña! xD`
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`13:39.39`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: we mean apply the same site design to e-live as e.org and get-e will use`
`13:39.59`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, did you check http://www.rasterman.com/e2/index.html ? HandyAndE is just asking you if you want your site to look like that and if you want to add your site to this little official "E-sties-ring"`
`13:40.07`	`Enlighted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:40.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, Elive use e16 or e17, after the instalation the default is e16, but if you select e17 (from my memory), this is added for the default in the next X login`
`13:40.22`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, No hay algun video de preview como en Elive .3 ?`
`13:40.23`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, thx`
`13:40.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Anarien , fijate en este, es el importante: Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 3.36 seconds = 4.76 MB/sec`
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`13:40.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:40.42`	`HandyAndE`	`sHR00m: thanks man :)`
`13:40.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, mira si upgradea el paquete elive-etc`
`13:40.55`	`Anarien`	`voy`
`13:41.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es we mean apply the same site design to e-live as e.org and get-e will use`
`13:41.56`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, "we mean" quiere decir "Queremos decir..."`
`13:42.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh, the problem HandyAndE for the page of Elive are simple... Im the "designer" of the page... Im not designer, but I change the page... I have little problem with english (yes, you know, hehe), and not have really time for maintain a good page, the page are really simple....`
`13:42.49`	`piz`	`Thanatermesis!`
`13:42.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo piz !`
`13:42.57`	`piz`	`que tal, campeon!`
`13:43.20`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, No hay algun video de preview como en Elive .3 ?`
`13:43.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`muy bien, y tu? :)`
`13:43.23`	`Enlighted`	`jajaja`
`13:43.36`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, ya te reportaré cualqueir bug k haya`
`13:43.38`	`Enlighted`	`;)`
`13:43.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk, aun no, tengo que hacer uno`
`13:43.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje, ok Enlighted`
`13:43.46`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ça te dis pas de faire partie d'un cercle officiel de enlightenment ?!`
`13:44.10`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: si ils te proposent ça c'est qu'ils ont foie en ton projet ;)`
`13:44.10`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Me refiero como el video de Prodige que hay dentro del livecd!`
`13:44.23`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: no, me dice que no hay ninguna actualizacion`
`13:44.42`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis respondiendo en 3 idiomas`
`13:44.43`	`dererk`	`xD`
`13:44.52`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: pour editer le site il s'agit d'un simple editeur wysiwyg`
`13:45.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui pr0t0cod7`
`13:46.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Anarien, te paso el paquete`
`13:46.19`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: c'est pas a moi qu'il faut dire oui c'est a HandyAndE :D`
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`13:46.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:47.03`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: je pourrai t'aider pour le site si tu veux`
`13:47.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, je lui dit.. mais je lui explique que le probleme (pour le dessign), c'est que c'est moi qui se occuppe de la page de Elive, alors elle et simple, je ne sait pas maitre "vraiment des choses" et me occuper de elle`
`13:47.25`	`present_a`	`hello :d`
`13:47.30`	`present_a`	`i like this... :d`
`13:47.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi present_a`
`13:47.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`good :)`
`13:47.58`	`present_a`	`won't boot on the dell tho :(`
`13:48.40`	`dererk`	`present_a, We like this too ?=)`
`13:49.01`	`present_a`	`e17 is just so nice`
`13:49.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`present_a, what is the problem ? what graphic card you use in the dell ?`
`13:49.03`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: du moment qu'il y a un contenu fixe.. apres ce sera la meme page que maintenant avec un design different...tu aura seulement a mettre des news quand tu sors une nouvelle version ou autres...`
`13:49.04`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Me refiero como el video de Prodige que hay dentro del livecd! Entendes?`
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`13:49.17`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, funciona perfectamente xD`
`13:49.17`	`dererk`	`screen definition`
`13:49.21`	`present_a`	`onboard intel crap`
`13:49.25`	`dererk`	`screen`
`13:49.32`	`present_a`	`15 inch dell`
`13:49.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`present_a, in what part are the problem of boot Elive ?`
`13:49.54`	`sinplomo`	`hi`
`13:49.55`	`dererk`	`elive-bot, screen`
`13:49.56`	`sinplomo`	`huuuu`
`13:49.58`	`sinplomo`	`a lot of people today :)`
`13:50.04`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, ?=)`
`13:50.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, oui, je vois... alors, il me disent qoi? de prendre le meme look the get-e et e.org ?`
`13:50.11`	`dererk`	`elive-bot, screen def`
`13:50.16`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: oui voila`
`13:50.40`	`present_a`	`i need to edit xorg.conf.. no biggie,,,`
`13:50.49`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Me refiero como el video de Prodige que hay dentro del Elive .1?`
`13:50.50`	`present_a`	`just a pain..`
`13:50.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`moais, ça serait bien... encore que je aimait bien style la page de Elive... toi pas pr0t0cod7 ? :)`
`13:51.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`present_a, not uses xorg.conf, uses xfree`
`13:51.09`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: le site sera hebergé par HandyAndE je pense donc peut etre la redirection devra changer`
`13:51.13`	`present_a`	`i was close`
`13:51.22`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: tu peux toujours customiser leur base`
`13:51.22`	`present_a`	`i didn't look to be fair`
`13:51.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo se dererk lo se... no, ese es el video que hay y el que se quedara por el momento`
`13:51.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, maintenant le site il et hebergée par shadoi, www.elivecd.org :)`
`13:52.00`	`present_a`	`nvidia driver works on this box but has given me 640x480`
`13:52.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`domain www.elivecd.org et hebergement de shadoi pr0t0cod7`
`13:52.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui`
`13:52.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`je sais`
`13:52.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`present_a, look apt`
`13:52.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`change resolution`
`13:52.22`	`elive-bot`	`Thanatermesis: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`13:52.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, no apt, elive-bot ;)`
`13:52.36`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, xconf ?`
`13:52.38`	`present_a`	`ah... ok`
`13:52.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, deleted`
`13:52.51`	`present_a`	`in my case 1280x1024`
`13:52.57`	`present_a`	`cool cool`
`13:53.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, put this in the boot ;)`
`13:53.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`try`
`13:53.22`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, no añade el icono del tuxpaint al menu inicio`
`13:53.30`	`Enlighted`	`es lo unico malo, aunque bueno...será normal`
`13:53.59`	`present_a`	`brb will try the screen= business brb`
`13:54.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, no, los menus funcionan diferenetes, estas en e16 ?`
`13:54.17`	`Enlighted`	`E17`
`13:54.19`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
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`13:54.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:54.48`	`sinplomo`	`Enlighted, conoces/usas entangle ?`
`13:54.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, in this moments, the new page are www.elivecd.org , and are hosted by shadoi`
`13:54.58`	`Enlighted`	`sinplomo, conozco pero no uso`
`13:54.59`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:55.08`	`sinplomo`	`Enlighted, XD`
`13:55.22`	`sinplomo`	`pos crear el eap en .e/e/applications/all`
`13:55.24`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: maintaining it would not be difficult - we could provide the same CMS that e.org and get-e.org use`
`13:55.34`	`sinplomo`	`y luego con entange lo metes de donde te salga de los huevos :)`
`13:55.38`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`13:55.44`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, ping`
`13:56.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, /etc/init.d/hdparm restart && hdparm -t /dev/hda`
`13:56.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`humm..`
`13:56.16`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, seria interesante que consideraras la idea de HandyAndE`
`13:56.25`	`Enlighted`	`os ayudariais mutuamente`
`13:56.32`	`Enlighted`	`es una simbiosis perfecta xD`
`13:56.47`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: thanks for translating btw ;)`
`13:56.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: is it possible to have multi-lang sites with xsm?`
`13:57.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha`
`13:57.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, sure`
`13:57.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, yes, its good idea`
`13:57.16`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: like get-e?`
`13:57.37`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: the site look, the site hosting or the site CMS?`
`13:57.40`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, no problem :)`
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`13:57.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:57.53`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: no i mean for the entire site`
`13:57.59`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: oka ya esta`
`13:58.07`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, pregunta si es una buena idea el cambio de look, el hosting o lo del CMS?`
`13:58.10`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`13:59.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, tira mejor ?`
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`13:59.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`13:59.56`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: it is possible, but not "simple!"`
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`14:00.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user2`
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`14:00.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user3`
`14:00.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, dile que principalmente haria falta "adaptar" el look del CMS de get-e al look que usaria elive... y a elive le hace falta un logo... algun voluntario? :)`
`14:00.08`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: you need to split the site into different "languages"`
`14:00.15`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: then maintain them seperately`
`14:00.20`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, marrchando`
`14:00.38`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: but then you can have flags at the top to change them, and generate the navigation starting 1 level down`
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`14:00.56`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: good is design, hosting and CMS?`
`14:01.30`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, it would be nice to adapt the CMS look of "get-e" to the look elive would use...and elive requires a logo....any volunteer? :)`
`14:01.52`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: raster will provide one`
`14:02.08`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: we are having all the logos in the same "style" so we can generate an "E Live" one to`
`14:02.20`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: ok, i thought it would be a good idea to translate the elive page in different langs (es/fr), as there is not much to do`
`14:02.28`	`Anarien`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:02.30`	`CGA`	`HandyAndE, btw raster is in the other channel`
`14:02.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, yes, need to look diferent logos for choice one`
`14:02.35`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, un tal raster te lo proporcionará`
`14:02.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Enlighted`
`14:02.43`	`Enlighted`	`..weno, lo has pillado, no?`
`14:02.44`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: but i realise it's not so easy`
`14:02.45`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`14:02.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`si si`
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`14:02.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`14:02.57`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: perdona, pero es que estoy en mil cosas XDD (pero te voy leyendo eh!)`
`14:02.59`	`Enlighted`	`yo creo k un logo del mismo estilo es lo adecuado`
`14:03.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: with xsm i mean :P`
`14:03.11`	`Enlighted`	`para "asociar" elive a las E`
`14:03.12`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`14:03.54`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: it is easy enough - but it will require more maintainance than simply "edit -> french"`
`14:04.08`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: you need to go into the french area and edit the pages there`
`14:04.18`	`HandyAndE`	`I may have plans as to how to make it better, but not sure`
`14:04.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, in this moments I need to wait little to shadoi, the www.elivecd.org are hosted in their machines, (20 gb for month transfer), shadoi are out of the town by bussiness, we have speaked for put a CMS (what are? drupal?), Im posible need to wait shadoi for make this..`
`14:04.46`	`Enlighted`	`shadoi kien es?`
`14:04.47`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`14:04.58`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: CMS = XSM`
`14:05.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, otro del mundo E ;)`
`14:05.13`	`Enlighted`	`de las E o del elive?`
`14:05.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`xsm ? Im don't know, hehe`
`14:05.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`de E`
`14:05.30`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 3.36 seconds = 4.76 MB/sec <-- esto lo de antes, ya lo qcreo que ha mejorado!,gracias :)`
`14:05.38`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, y esas "M" sobran cuando te refieres a ti mismo`
`14:05.41`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`14:05.43`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: http://rxsm.sourceforge.net`
`14:05.46`	`Enlighted`	`es I don't know`
`14:06.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, y ahora cuanto da ?`
`14:07.22`	`Anarien`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:07.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`14:08.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, podrias probar el test de velocidad despues de reiniciar la maquina a ver si sigue activado ?`
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`14:08.29`	`Anarien`	`si,descuida`
`14:08.51`	`Anarien`	`ahora vengo`
`14:09.02`	`Enlighted`	`bueno`
`14:09.10`	`Enlighted`	`ahora SI me voy e echar la siesta`
`14:09.12`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`14:09.16`	`Enlighted`	`ta luegooo`
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`14:13.30`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: --> Timing buffered disk reads: 52 MB in 3.02 seconds = 17.20 MB/sec`
`14:13.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto :)`
`14:13.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, a ver si notas Elive 3 veces mas rapido ahora ;)`
`14:13.55`	`Anarien`	`mas? XDDDDDD`
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`14:14.48`	`gaspode_hispano`	`Hi....can any of you help me? I'm a total newbie with enlightenment`
`14:15.10`	`CGA`	`what you need?`
`14:15.11`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, sure :)`
`14:15.40`	`gaspode_hispano`	`I can't even create new icons for the menus...even though I've made the "click on the bar - Create Icon" stuff`
`14:15.40`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: ya lo creo!,se me lanza todo a una velocidad acojonante`
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`14:16.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`:D`
`14:16.10`	`CGA`	`gaspode_hispano, you migjt find get-e.org interesting`
`14:16.15`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: he hecho la prueba de fuego con el firefox que es de lo que mas tarda en lanzarse y se ha abierto al primer click`
`14:16.23`	`gaspode_hispano`	`get-e.org is down or so it seems :(`
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`14:16.29`	`ArkiMedeS`	`wenas`
`14:16.41`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, run e_util_eapp_edit`
`14:16.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, eso era un problema... de que sin eso a la gente le iria muy lento, y no quiero que nadie diga "elive es lenta"... ahora solo hace falta que la gente haga upgrades del sistema para que le corra :/`
`14:16.51`	`Anarien`	`hola ArkiMedeS ,ummm... cuanto son 4+4? :)`
`14:16.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`wenas ArkiMedeS , ya esta la release que esperabas ;)`
`14:16.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDD`
`14:17.08`	`ArkiMedeS`	`ya la he probao`
`14:17.11`	`ArkiMedeS`	`y hay cosas q fallan`
`14:17.12`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDD`
`14:17.15`	`ArkiMedeS`	`los juegos no van`
`14:17.15`	`sinplomo`	`and when you finish, move the eap to /home/user/.e/e/applications/all/`
`14:17.25`	`sinplomo`	`and then run entangle gaspode_hispano :)`
`14:17.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, for engage in the e16 ?`
`14:17.31`	`Anarien`	`que juegos?`
`14:17.41`	`gaspode_hispano`	`e17 I think`
`14:17.41`	`ArkiMedeS`	`los q vienen`
`14:17.41`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, para e17`
`14:17.47`	`gaspode_hispano`	`yes, e17`
`14:17.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`ArkiMedeS, no has probado la final, habrias probado la "pre"`
`14:18.01`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, run e_util_eapp_edit and when you finish, move the eap to /home/user/.e/e/applications/all/, then run entangle :)`
`14:18.03`	`Anarien`	`ArkiMedeS: si van, tienes aceleración grafica?`
`14:18.04`	`ArkiMedeS`	`me la baje anoche`
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`14:18.17`	`Anarien`	`ArkiMedeS: glxinfo \| gerp rendering`
`14:18.28`	`Anarien`	`perdon grep XD`
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`14:19.26`	`sinplomo`	`ArkiMedeS, bitula !!`
`14:19.33`	`ArkiMedeS`	`jaja`
`14:19.36`	`ArkiMedeS`	`sinplomo q tal tio`
`14:19.40`	`gaspode_hispano`	`I can't apply themes neither....I've installed them through apt-get install and I've copied them to my .e/e/themes dir`
`14:19.41`	`ArkiMedeS`	`es q la toy probando en vmware`
`14:19.44`	`ArkiMedeS`	`sera por eso no?`
`14:19.45`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDD`
`14:19.48`	`sinplomo`	`ArkiMedeS, bien`
`14:19.50`	`sinplomo`	`y tu ?`
`14:19.54`	`Anarien`	`voy a hacerme un café,hasta luegito`
`14:20.08`	`gaspode_hispano`	`mhmm veo que aqui todo el mundo habla en español....y yo hablando en ingles y haciendo el capullo xD`
`14:20.17`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, lueguito en todo caso no ?`
`14:20.30`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, por algun lugar se empieza !`
`14:20.31`	`sinplomo`	`XDD`
`14:20.32`	`gaspode_hispano`	`xD`
`14:20.48`	`ArkiMedeS`	`pos perita sinplomo tirando 2x5D`
`14:21.06`	`sinplomo`	`tirando del wireless de melilla no ?`
`14:21.07`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:21.13`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, reinicia e17`
`14:21.38`	`gaspode_hispano`	`sinplomo, lo he hecho....pero nada`
`14:21.42`	`gaspode_hispano`	`voy a volver a intentarlo`
`14:22.26`	`ArkiMedeS`	`sinplomo ahora no, man quitao el adsl y toy usando el equipo pa conseguir conexion`
`14:22.27`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDD`
`14:22.34`	`ArkiMedeS`	`de la gente solidaria q hay por estos lares`
`14:22.36`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDD`
`14:22.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, mira ArkiMedeS , se instala una ubuntu y tiene miedo de probar Elive en su maquina normal y la mete en vmware xD`
`14:23.12`	`sinplomo`	`ArkiMedeS, eso, dale al aircrack`
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`14:23.13`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:23.17`	`gaspode_hispano`	`nada`
`14:23.24`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, ls .e/e/themes`
`14:23.37`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDDD`
`14:23.44`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: if I were porting elive to XSM I could set it up for different languages, and folk could just add more as they want`
`14:24.11`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: the thing to watch out for is that a news post might not appear in all languages for a while - depending on how fast the translators are!`
`14:24.16`	`ArkiMedeS`	`sinplomo no hace falta aircrack la pe�a no pone encriptacion`
`14:24.17`	`ArkiMedeS`	`XDDDD`
`14:24.35`	`sinplomo`	`y lleva los pass de timofonica no ?`
`14:24.43`	`sinplomo`	`o sea, los que estan por defecto`
`14:24.44`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:24.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`good HandyAndE :)`
`14:25.01`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: oishhh perdón es que soy "amorfabeta" "perdia!!!",menos mal que te tengo a ti..! :P`
`14:25.02`	`gaspode_hispano`	`ls .e/e/themes`
`14:25.18`	`gaspode_hispano`	`BlueSteel BrushedMetal-Tigert Ganymede ShinyMetal`
`14:25.23`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`14:25.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`14:25.44`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, dice que no le van los themes O_o`
`14:25.54`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: juasss, lo que les pasa es que sienten añoranza de ciertas cosumbres... ejme`
`14:25.56`	`gaspode_hispano`	`solo me muestra el default`
`14:25.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, this is not the themes of e17, its the themes of the e16`
`14:25.58`	`gaspode_hispano`	`:S`
`14:26.09`	`ArkiMedeS`	`sinplomo ya te digo`
`14:26.19`	`ArkiMedeS`	`sinplomo la pe�a no usa el emule ni na me estoy hinchando`
`14:26.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, you need apt-get install e17 themes and...`
`14:26.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh`
`14:26.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt`
`14:26.22`	`ArkiMedeS`	`jajaja`
`14:26.24`	`sinplomo`	`ArkiMedeS, XDDD`
`14:26.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt e17-themes`
`14:26.26`	`apt`	`methinks e17-themes is if you have installed any themes of e17 but not works, only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and works`
`14:26.26`	`Anarien`	`ArkiMedeS: instalate una Elive como dios manda, "cohones!"`
`14:26.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, ;)`
`14:26.45`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, igual son los permisos ;)`
`14:26.48`	`ArkiMedeS`	`Anarien yo se q la voy a instalar y no va rular en mi maquina`
`14:26.49`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDD`
`14:26.58`	`Anarien`	`ArkiMedeS: asi como quieres que te funken las cosas, si eso es una chapuza`
`14:26.59`	`ArkiMedeS`	`q siempre pasa con las distros del tito sam`
`14:27.00`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDDD`
`14:27.12`	`gaspode_hispano`	`aps....`
`14:27.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, look the apt words`
`14:27.27`	`gaspode_hispano`	`pues que cabroncete el repositorio de ubuntu :D`
`14:27.35`	`gaspode_hispano`	`Thanatermesis, hable en ingles por costumbre`
`14:27.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, pero repito, los themes que tieenes alli son de e16, no e17`
`14:27.48`	`gaspode_hispano`	`ok`
`14:27.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd`
`14:27.48`	`felix`	`Conozco a dos hermanos: gil y pollas`
`14:27.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`<gaspode_hispano> pues que cabroncete el repositorio de ubuntu :D`
`14:28.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`el repo de ubuntu te mete los themes de e16 en donde van los de e17 lol`
`14:28.15`	`gaspode_hispano`	`no esta e17-themes`
`14:28.22`	`sinplomo`	`gaspode_hispano, XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`14:28.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, apt-cache search e17 themes`
`14:28.34`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: exactamente, ademas de la version antigua`
`14:28.35`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, que inutiles son los de ubuntu xD`
`14:28.47`	`gaspode_hispano`	`nada, nada`
`14:28.51`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: son lo peor XD`
`14:28.59`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, XD`
`14:29.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ArkiMedeS, pues sera que te pasa solo a ti. a mi las distros del tito sam me van bien xD`
`14:29.19`	`ArkiMedeS`	`normal tu eres el tio sam`
`14:29.21`	`ArkiMedeS`	`sino te va a ti....`
`14:29.23`	`ArkiMedeS`	`xDDDD`
`14:31.28`	`gaspode_hispano`	`que formato tienen que tener los iconos de las aplicaciones? png vale? es que con el editor de eapp no me encuentra los iconos de las aplicaciones y me temo que o tengo que buscarlos a mano o descargarlos de algun sitio? pueden estar en /usr/share o algo asi?`
`14:31.30`	`Anarien`	`eh a mi también me va`
`14:31.58`	`Anarien`	`gaspode_hispano: png es perfecto para los eap`
`14:32.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`ArkiMedeS, <Anarien> eh a mi también me va`
`14:32.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`14:32.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`a mucha gente le va de maravilla`
`14:32.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`ArkiMedeS, dame el MD5sum de la IS`
`14:33.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`ISO`
`14:33.02`	`ArkiMedeS`	`weno Thanatermesis luego la catare`
`14:33.10`	`ArkiMedeS`	`cm saco eso?`
`14:33.10`	`ArkiMedeS`	`2x5D`
`14:33.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`seguro que no te has bajado la pre, no? que te bajaste? el torrent ?`
`14:33.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`md5sum fichero.iso`
`14:33.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`gaspode_hispano, si, png vale`
`14:33.39`	`ArkiMedeS`	`me tengo q baja el md5sum ese`
`14:33.39`	`ArkiMedeS`	`2x5D`
`14:33.44`	`ArkiMedeS`	`yo es q nunca lo compruebo`
`14:33.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`no tienes el comando ?`
`14:34.24`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: tu decides quoi pour le site alors`
`14:35.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben c'est une bonne idée pr0t0cod7 , il faut plus de mouvement dans le site.. un forum, des langues.. etc, non ?`
`14:35.25`	`Anarien`	`yo me estoy poniendo los menus en catalan`
`14:35.27`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: j'ai demandé a HandyAndE il pourrai le prevoir pour plusieurs langues comme ça tu pourrai le faire en espagnol, moi en fr par exemple, quelqu'un en anglais`
`14:35.36`	`gaspode_hispano`	`Thanatermesis eres un poliglota total :D`
`14:35.53`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: un forum c'est possible mais plus compliqué, il faut des moderateurs..`
`14:36.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: je veux dire ça prends plus de temps`
`14:36.07`	`sinplomo`	`pr0t0cod7, et en arabe aussi xP`
`14:36.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, parfait !, c'est ce quil faut ;)`
`14:36.19`	`pr0t0cod7`	`sinplomo: si tu veux :D`
`14:36.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, oui bon... en peut aussi le metre autre part ;)`
`14:36.54`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: oui`
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`14:37.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: la seule chose comme dit HandyAndE c'est que pour les news, si tu postes en es, il y aura un petit/grand decalage selon les traducteurs`
`14:38.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais une chose et importante pr0t0cod7 sinplomo .. si moi je suis qui met les "news" ou les trucs sur la page... il faut la traduction vitte, c'est a dire, celui qui se charge de chaque language il doit vitte le traduire a l'autre langue, sinon il serait actualisée les choses au espagnol mais pas au anglais que c'est ou les gents ils regarde plus`
`14:38.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: il faudrait s'organiser/ se prevenir a chaque mise a jour`
`14:38.08`	`Anarien`	`oie... y los nuevos usuarios por que entran y vuelven a salir?, se podrian quedar no? XD`
`14:38.09`	`pr0t0cod7`	`:)`
`14:38.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui`
`14:38.15`	`Anarien`	`seriamos chorrocientos!`
`14:38.31`	`Elive_user`	`Es posible acelerar en el Armagetron, Thanatermesis ?`
`14:38.32`	`Elive_user`	`xD`
`14:38.38`	`Elive_user`	`Me estoy volviendo adicto`
`14:38.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, metre des gents qui se occupe de la traduction et que ce soit des persones avec de la activitée qoi, pas des fénéants lol`
`14:38.56`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, tengo una apuesta con Thanatermesis`
`14:38.57`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:38.58`	`Anarien`	`uffff, a mi ese juego me vuelve majara! XD`
`14:39.05`	`sinplomo`	`que llegaremos a 100 usuarios`
`14:39.08`	`sinplomo`	`el dice que si`
`14:39.09`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: cual? xD`
`14:39.10`	`sinplomo`	`yo que no`
`14:39.10`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:39.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: oui :)`
`14:39.17`	`Elive_user`	`Anarien, Se puede acelerar?`
`14:39.19`	`sinplomo`	`100 personas en este canal`
`14:39.20`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:39.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user, si, tienes aceleracion? eso es lo primero, luego puedes acelerarlo quitandole cosas de renderizacion desde los propios menus del juego, seccion configuracion grafica`
`14:39.25`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, si`
`14:39.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok pr0t0cod7 , dit-lui alors c'est bon a HandyAndE ;)`
`14:39.36`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
`14:39.43`	`Elive_user`	`Digo si tiene algun acelerador`
`14:39.44`	`Elive_user`	`Boton`
`14:39.45`	`Elive_user`	`comando`
`14:39.46`	`Elive_user`	`xD`
`14:39.53`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, si`
`14:40.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, el dia que saque el video.. ya lo veras, antes de un mes hay aqui 100 usuarios en el canal`
`14:40.01`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: podria ser que hasta mas... piensa que no paran de netrar y salir Elive_user's xD`
`14:40.03`	`Elive_user`	`sinplomo, Cual`
`14:40.05`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: mais attention si ça devient comme sur get-e les traductions sont devenues tres vieilles... on peut toujours cacher les traduction qui sont pas a jour`
`14:40.15`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, leete el man`
`14:40.22`	`sinplomo`	`que por algo la gente se mata escribiendolo`
`14:40.23`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:40.35`	`Elive_user`	`Anarien, De que netrar y salir hablas?`
`14:40.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, oui, je sait, pour ça je dit des gents avec envie de colaborer ;)`
`14:40.53`	`Elive_user`	`sinplomo, Vamos... un boton...`
`14:41.06`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: ok it would be fine if you could set the site up for multiple lang`
`14:41.22`	`Anarien`	`Elive_user: jo!! :P`
`14:41.31`	`Elive_user`	`Anarien, ?????`
`14:41.41`	`Anarien`	`Elive_user: tu al "Armagetron" y a callar! :)`
`14:41.55`	`shift-u`	`Anarien, O_o?`
`14:42.04`	`shift-u`	`Anarien, Noto algo de agresividad....`
`14:42.16`	`shift-u`	`Hombre... quiero acelerar... que tecla es!!`
`14:42.20`	`shift-u`	`>?`
`14:42.45`	`Anarien`	`shift-u: queria decir "entrar",no ves que me he confundido al tipear?, oishhh,no perdonais ni una eh!`
`14:42.51`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: hehe, if it does not work it can be easily changed to 1 lang only`
`14:42.57`	`sinplomo`	`shift-u, donde esta dererk ?`
`14:43.11`	`Anarien`	`shift-u: para nada :),se nota que no me conoces nada nada eh`
`14:43.14`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: good :)`
`14:43.22`	`shift-u`	`sinplomo, Fuera xD`
`14:43.25`	`Anarien`	`shift-u: mucho ladrar y poco morder :)`
`14:43.31`	`shift-u`	`sinplomo, Jugando al Arm.`
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`14:43.35`	`shift-u`	`xD`
`14:44.08`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: ves? otro Elive_user!!`
`14:44.21`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: contamos los que entran y salen? XD`
`14:44.36`	`Anarien`	`venga, prepara la lista...`
`14:44.55`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, no`
`14:45.10`	`sinplomo`	`que toy ocupao :)`
`14:45.12`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: anyway i have seen there's a menu in rxsm now to choose the lang, i could translate in french if you tell me how`
`14:45.22`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: era broma :)`
`14:45.36`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, ¬'`
`14:45.40`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: seguro que estas dandole al Armagetron`
`14:45.41`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, ¬¬`
`14:45.44`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, no`
`14:45.47`	`sinplomo`	`gimpeando`
`14:45.48`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:46.11`	`Anarien`	`ole!, estas haciendo el skin del xmms para la elive? XDD`
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`14:46.32`	`dererk`	`Hola`
`14:46.42`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, Me extranaste_?`
`14:46.44`	`dererk`	`xD`
`14:46.58`	`sinplomo`	`dererk == shift-u`
`14:47.06`	`sinplomo`	`pa que cambiaste de nick ?`
`14:47.07`	`shift-u`	`sinplomo, nonono`
`14:47.11`	`sinplomo`	`¬¬`
`14:47.25`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, que va`
`14:47.27`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`14:47.28`	`dererk`	`sinplomo, shift-u es la version unregistred`
`14:47.39`	`dererk`	`unregistered*`
`14:47.44`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: también era broma :)`
`14:47.48`	`sinplomo`	`haciendo unas portadas para unos paquetes de datiles para la empresa de mi padre :)`
`14:48.16`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: thanks :)`
`14:48.23`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: that would be cool!`
`14:48.45`	`shift-u`	`sinplomo, Anda, dime como acelerar`
`14:48.54`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: es curioso...,estoy poniendo los menús de e16 en catalán y no me admite los acentos (descarta las letras que vayan con acentos)`
`14:48.57`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: unfortunately it needs more infrastructure in place to make it easy to translate - all that we have at the moment is you email me the english and the french so I can put it in place`
`14:48.57`	`shift-u`	`sinplomo, Tengo que darte un besito?`
`14:48.58`	`shift-u`	`xD`
`14:49.20`	`Anarien`	`sin embargo en settings que no he tocado nada si están`
`14:49.22`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: it is slow work putting the actual translation lookups in!`
`14:49.24`	`sinplomo`	`shift-u, no ... necesito algo mas ...`
`14:49.27`	`sinplomo`	`XDDDDDD`
`14:49.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, ya, eso es por la fuente en TTF de los menus :/ que theme usas ?`
`14:49.47`	`Anarien`	`mozilla`
`14:50.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`como que mozilla? con mermelada? xD`
`14:50.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`los themes de e16`
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`14:51.04`	`nomed^`	`hola todos`
`14:51.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`hola nomed^ :)`
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`14:51.20`	`Anarien`	`si si,estoy con e16 y tengo el theme mozilla (no miento,ni me lo invento) xD`
`14:51.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt e17-themes`
`14:51.27`	`apt`	`i heard e17-themes is if you have installed any themes of e17 but not works, only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and works`
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`14:51.53`	`nomed^`	`y Thanatermesis los debian packages ?`
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`14:52.08`	`nomed^`	`tienes un repository ...?`
`14:52.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, apt-cache search e17 themes`
`14:52.18`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: ok, is there a file where i could find the "all things to translate" or should i go through the site to see by myself`
`14:53.55`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: ehm i can no longer login with my account on xsm/get-e.org :/`
`14:54.12`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: that is the joke - there is a file with "all things to translate" but it is ver short - because that is the area that needs more work`
`14:54.15`	`HandyAndE`	`see?`
`14:54.19`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: did you forget your password?`
`14:54.22`	`pr0t0cod7`	`yes i see`
`14:54.32`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: nope i got the good password`
`14:54.38`	`pr0t0cod7`	`but i cant' login`
`14:55.35`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: http://jp.bizet.free.fr/themes/e.html <-- ese`
`14:56.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`HandyAndE: i wonder why there's no more "edit" link in the get-e pages too`
`14:56.47`	`HandyAndE`	`"pr0t0cod7" that is case sensitive - yes?`
`14:56.59`	`pr0t0cod7`	`yes`
`14:57.29`	`HandyAndE`	`is get-e the only XSM you have an account on?`
`14:57.35`	`pr0t0cod7`	`yep`
`14:58.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`no lo conocia Anarien ... en todo caso es debido a que la fuente en TTF no acepta acentos, prueba de cambiarlo por otra fuente, como por ejemplo la de "winter" ;)`
`14:59.07`	`Anarien`	`oka`
`15:02.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`www.elivecd.org`
`15:02.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`section TUNNING added`
`15:04.13`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis,`
`15:04.24`	`RasKolniKoV`	`luego te paso una version previa del sdljump`
`15:04.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`15:04.44`	`RasKolniKoV`	`aun no tiene menu ni lista de records, pero por lo demas es bastante funcional`
`15:05.13`	`RasKolniKoV`	`por ahora es una reproduccion perfecta del otro juego (de hecho, buena parte de la logica esta copiada directamente)`
`15:05.30`	`RasKolniKoV`	`aunq mas adelante le añadire la opcion de usar una nueva logica`
`15:05.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`alli alli, a dobles y con choques ;)`
`15:10.13`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, ahora mismo se pueden jugar hasta 4 en el mismo teclado`
`15:10.16`	`RasKolniKoV`	`tiene opengl`
`15:10.29`	`RasKolniKoV`	`lo q pasa es q no se pueden configurar las teclas que le he puesto por defecto`
`15:10.29`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:10.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`15:10.55`	`CGA`	`anyone has installed elive on his box? did you have troubles?`
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`15:12.12`	`gaspode_hispano`	`alguno ha utilizado e17genmenu?`
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`15:13.01`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, en una hora q le de los ultimos retoques, arregle algunos bugs, escriba el readme etc te lo paso`
`15:13.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`oks`
`15:13.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, look the tunning section http://elivecd.org/tunning.html`
`15:14.05`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, thx`
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`15:15.47`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, ping ping`
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`15:25.45`	`RasKolniKoV`	`dime sinplomo`
`15:27.00`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, sabes de donde puedo conseguir figuras, personajes y tal para un juego ?`
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`15:27.53`	`samuel`	`sup all`
`15:29.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi this cd is realy wanted dead or alive hehe my server rebooted by it self thats good throttled down the speed so many more ppl could connect instead and to keep the server alive my server is an old pentium 100Mghz runing debian :) yesterday it was alomost 30 established connections at once to day it seam abit less , saw yer site was move due to the traffic`
`15:29.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`15:29.49`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, ni idea`
`15:29.50`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:30.23`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, le vas a joder el server al tio`
`15:30.23`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`15:30.47`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, joder ...`
`15:30.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`15:30.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`no te preocupes sinplomo ... ahora veras ;)`
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`15:33.42`	`mchasard`	`hello`
`15:33.59`	`samuel`	`ive got dr17 running here can i ask how to edit the menus? how do i get new programs in there, and what programs are there to browse files?`
`15:34.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel, try entangle`
`15:34.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi mchasard`
`15:34.54`	`mchasard`	`hi thana`
`15:35.54`	`samuel`	`Thanatermesis, im on entangle, but i cant get it to add a program or delete the ones there`
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`15:36.38`	`samuel`	`delete ive done now!`
`15:36.43`	`samuel`	`but add new ones?`
`15:36.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh`
`15:37.01`	`sinplomo`	`samuel, do you see a lot of icones on the left ?`
`15:37.18`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, yes`
`15:37.18`	`sinplomo`	`drag & drop ;)`
`15:37.22`	`mchasard`	`thana did you try cd persistent ?`
`15:37.35`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, what if its not there?`
`15:38.01`	`sinplomo`	`samuel, hum`
`15:38.15`	`sinplomo`	`samuel, run e_util_eapp_edit`
`15:38.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, e17-icons`
`15:38.21`	`apt`	`rumour has it, e17-icons is for add new icons you need to launch "e_util_eapp_edit" and put these in $HOME/.e/e/applications/all , try to configure it with entangle, its a fast way, if not, enter in .e/e/favorites or .e/e/ibar and edit the .order files`
`15:38.21`	`sinplomo`	`create your eap`
`15:38.37`	`sinplomo`	`voila :)`
`15:39.53`	`samuel`	`ok, thanks`
`15:40.17`	`samuel`	`also, what is the name of that fancy background that is a star field?`
`15:40.30`	`samuel`	`and the app that you can use to browse files?`
`15:40.36`	`samuel`	`sorry about all the questions`
`15:41.15`	`samuel`	`nautilus --no-desktop has no icons since gnome is not running`
`15:42.02`	`sinplomo`	`samuel, you can use evidence as file browser`
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`15:42.23`	`sinplomo`	`it's nice`
`15:43.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://elivecd.org/download.html <--- new mirrors !!!`
`15:43.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, ;)`
`15:43.19`	`felix`	`sinplomo: it is not WYSIWYG as nautilus is`
`15:44.43`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, its not bad, i could get used to it, its what you need....`
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`15:47.03`	`sinplomo`	`felix, a mi me hablas en castellano tio`
`15:47.04`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`15:48.52`	`samuel`	`ok! mejor en espa?ol! no saben como se llama el programa ese que es como un wallpaper animado de estrellas?`
`15:49.07`	`Anarien`	`XDDDDDDDDDD`
`15:49.45`	`sinplomo`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`15:50.04`	`sinplomo`	`samuel, los wallpaper animados son unos .edj :)`
`15:50.05`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, sinplomo`
`15:50.08`	`RasKolniKoV`	`ya está!`
`15:50.13`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, bien`
`15:50.17`	`sinplomo`	`pasamelo`
`15:50.24`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, themes?`
`15:50.25`	`RasKolniKoV`	`ftp://magnicida.servebeer.com/sdljump-0.1.tar.bz2`
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`15:51.10`	`sinplomo`	`samuel, son unos .edj`
`15:51.15`	`Anarien`	`samuel: e17-bg-elive-stars`
`15:51.17`	`sinplomo`	`themes de edj :)`
`15:51.31`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, Anarien gracias`
`15:51.37`	`sinplomo`	`de nada`
`15:51.41`	`Anarien`	`a mandar`
`15:51.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`e17-bg-elive-stars - A nice background with movement for enlightenment 17`
`15:51.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`:D`
`15:51.56`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, bajatelo el cosa`
`15:51.59`	`RasKolniKoV`	`y sinplomo, tu tb`
`15:51.59`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:52.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`voy a ver`
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`15:52.01`	`RasKolniKoV`	`ftp://magnicida.servebeer.com/sdljump-0.1.tar.bz2`
`15:52.19`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, acabo de acordarme que no tengo aceleracion 3D`
`15:52.20`	`gaspode-hispano`	`se pueden usar epplets de e16 en e17?`
`15:52.20`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`15:52.40`	`sinplomo`	`aham`
`15:52.44`	`sinplomo`	`pero no la necesito`
`15:52.45`	`sinplomo`	`bien`
`15:52.59`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, no lo necesitas`
`15:53.03`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, y si me muero que ?`
`15:53.04`	`RasKolniKoV`	`basta con q tengas el mesa instalao`
`15:53.04`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`15:53.11`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, si te mueres dale a escape`
`15:53.11`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:53.12`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, el personajito se mueve muy rapido`
`15:53.14`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`15:53.20`	`sinplomo`	`mas rapido que en el xjump`
`15:53.22`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, se mueve igual q en la version normal`
`15:53.24`	`RasKolniKoV`	`q no!`
`15:53.24`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:53.32`	`sinplomo`	`q si`
`15:53.44`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, el problema en realidad es del xjump`
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`15:53.47`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:54.55`	`sinplomo`	`eso dicen todos`
`15:54.56`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`15:55.05`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, q es verdad`
`15:55.05`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:55.17`	`RasKolniKoV`	`aunq vamos, si eso en la proxima version lo pongo un pelin mas lento`
`15:55.17`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:55.19`	`sinplomo`	`mientes !!`
`15:55.23`	`sinplomo`	`XDDDD`
`15:55.24`	`RasKolniKoV`	`no miento!`
`15:55.25`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:55.33`	`sinplomo`	`RasKolniKoV, pon una feature para elegir la velocidad`
`15:55.37`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, has probao a ponerlo pa varios jugadores?`
`15:55.41`	`sinplomo`	`no`
`15:55.43`	`sinplomo`	`espera`
`15:55.47`	`sinplomo`	`que primero me hago un te`
`15:55.47`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`15:55.54`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, es q el xjump original es muy cutre y la velocidad depende directamente de los fps`
`15:56.14`	`RasKolniKoV`	`sinplomo, prueba a ponerlo pa varios jugadores, q es lo mejor!!!`
`15:56.14`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:56.30`	`RasKolniKoV`	`y prueba a ponerlo en opengl, a ver q tal te tira con el mesa`
`15:56.31`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`15:56.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer RasKolniKoV , estas echo una maquina, eh? xD`
`15:56.59`	`RasKolniKoV`	`jajaja, asias Thanatermesis`
`15:57.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`solo que el tio se caió por el barranco y nunca mas apareció`
`15:57.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`15:57.02`	`RasKolniKoV`	`por cierto`
`15:57.16`	`RasKolniKoV`	`la unica diferencia en realidad q hay respecto al orginal`
`15:57.42`	`RasKolniKoV`	`es q en el original no bajabas de floor si caias una floor mas abajo`
`15:57.43`	`RasKolniKoV`	`y en este si`
`15:57.44`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xDD`
`15:58.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`15:58.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, pero no se si me habrás pasado una version vieja o que pero el bicho se queda donde estaba xD`
`15:58.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`se muere y no vuelve a vivir xD`
`15:58.34`	`RasKolniKoV`	`en el proximo release le cambiare los colores a las camisetas de los muñecos pa q no te lies jugando con 4`
`15:58.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`15:58.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`RasKolniKoV, mete un furry !!!!`
`15:58.51`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, aro, el bicho se muere y a tomar xqlo`
`15:58.52`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xDDDD`
`15:58.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`15:59.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`claro que si, mete un furry, es lo suyo ;)`
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`15:59.28`	`RasKolniKoV`	`ok, ya contactare con algun grafiyo q me haga el furry`
`15:59.54`	`RasKolniKoV`	`q x cierto, con mi genial sistema de sprites la animaciones pueden tener tantos frames como quepan en la memoria xD`
`16:00.02`	`RasKolniKoV`	`no como en el original, q solo pueden tener dos`
`16:00.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/77982/webspruebs/felix.jpg`
`16:00.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`alli tienes un furry RasKolniKoV ;)`
`16:00.33`	`RasKolniKoV`	`y en la proxima version se podra activar pa q el muñeo haga todo el recorrido al girar`
`16:00.47`	`RasKolniKoV`	`ostias, te refieres a ESOS FURRIS!`
`16:00.48`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xDDDD`
`16:00.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, esos furris ! son la hostia :D`
`16:01.14`	`RasKolniKoV`	`si si, son gloriosos`
`16:01.27`	`RasKolniKoV`	`pues si, habra un theme de eso en la proxima version`
`16:01.52`	`RasKolniKoV`	`bueno, me voy a duchar y voy a salir un rato`
`16:02.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`Reader Rating5/5`
`16:02.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`16:02.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://distroreviews.com/index.php?view=138`
`16:02.38`	`RasKolniKoV`	`de loco Thanatermesis ;)`
`16:03.02`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, estas mirando ya lo de acer la elive de amd64?`
`16:03.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`puf`
`16:03.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`no me hables aun`
`16:03.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`16:03.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`que tengo un curro que no te imaginas xDDDD`
`16:03.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`RasKolniKoV, pero si quieres empezar a exportar paquetes para amd64... ;)`
`16:03.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`en todo caso hay que meterle un nuevo feature a make-deb para hacer eso de forma muy facil ;)`
`16:04.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/427_or/7.png`
`16:04.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`salgo en osdir !!!!!`
`16:04.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`y tu tambien Anarien`
`16:04.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`16:04.31`	`Anarien`	`eing?`
`16:04.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`y tu tambien sinplomo`
`16:04.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`16:04.51`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`16:05.22`	`Anarien`	`juas XD`
`16:05.22`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, cuando tenga el sdljump 1.0 lo metes en el elive eh!`
`16:05.22`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`16:05.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`RasKolniKoV, dale dale, con unos buenos graficos y buen funcionamiento yo te lo pongo ;)`
`16:05.58`	`RasKolniKoV`	`jajaja, con el theme de los furris?`
`16:05.59`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
`16:06.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`;) xD`
`16:07.05`	`RasKolniKoV`	`oye Thanatermesis, ya de paso estaria chulo`
`16:07.19`	`RasKolniKoV`	`hacer un script en php q se pueda comunica con el sdljump`
`16:07.26`	`RasKolniKoV`	`pa tener un master server de records`
`16:07.31`	`RasKolniKoV`	`a ver cuanto hacen los picaos xD`
`16:07.52`	`RasKolniKoV`	`bah, aunq fijo q en seguida salen chetos`
`16:07.57`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xDDD`
`16:10.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDD`
`16:10.37`	`RasKolniKoV`	`ostia, acabo de ver en los screenies q el elive tiene instalador!`
`16:10.44`	`RasKolniKoV`	`Thanatermesis, como has hecho el instalador?`
`16:11.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo cogí de morphix ;)`
`16:11.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero quiero re-escribirlo`
`16:11.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`para que tire en las librerias de EFL :D`
`16:11.31`	`RasKolniKoV`	`q esta en C?`
`16:12.42`	`RasKolniKoV`	`bueno me voy ya`
`16:12.49`	`RasKolniKoV`	`q siempre llego tarde a tos laos`
`16:12.56`	`RasKolniKoV`	`y creo q ya voy a llegar suficientemente tarde`
`16:12.57`	`RasKolniKoV`	`xD`
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`16:30.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`the person to have sent the osnews shot + description are in this channel ?`
`16:36.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es A few things that instantly caught my eye were a handful of sweet animations. I first noticed the twinkling stars in the desktop image.`
`16:36.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
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`16:52.28`	`Elive_user`	`kamazutra`
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`16:52.34`	`Elive_user`	`hola?`
`16:53.55`	`Elive_user2`	`hello, is there a mailinglist for elive ?`
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`17:01.47`	`Enlighted`	`wenasss`
`17:07.44`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, ya meditaste sobre la oferta de HandyAndE?`
`17:07.52`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: you talkking about me again? :)`
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`17:08.09`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, that's because it's interesting what you are offering`
`17:08.15`	`Enlighted`	`=D`
`17:08.35`	`Enlighted`	`but decisions are not mine :P`
`17:09.19`	`HandyAndE`	`phwor ;)`
`17:11.16`	`dererk`	`Hola Enlighted`
`17:11.18`	`dererk`	`Hola gente`
`17:11.26`	`Enlighted`	`dererk, hola, persona`
`17:11.29`	`Enlighted`	`xD`
`17:11.56`	`dererk`	`¿?`
`17:12.01`	`dererk`	`:-Ð`
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`17:13.11`	`samuel`	`hola todos!`
`17:13.17`	`Enlighted`	`nas, nas`
`17:13.40`	`samuel`	`what is the engage bar on entangle? i suppose startup is the startup session programs no?`
`17:13.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, its good, Elive homepage needs a good maintain and a good CMS (with colaborators for the translations) Enlighted HandyAndE`
`17:14.19`	`Enlighted`	`I think I can help with the translations`
`17:14.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel, http://elivecd.org/tunning.html`
`17:14.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`17:14.26`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`17:14.40`	`samuel`	`Thanatermesis, thanks!`
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`17:16.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`I'd tried the earlier version and couldn't get it to boot, but this one was fine, and I fired up E17. My goodness! You may or may not like all the effects, flashings and so on, but it is really quite extraordinary. The quality and the speed together are amazing.`
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`17:16.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`17:18.00`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, roolz :D`
`17:18.25`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, no me has contestado si al final te vas a fusionar con la web oficial de las E, o no..`
`17:18.39`	`Enlighted`	`o si te lo has de pensar, o algo XD`
`17:18.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`17:18.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`si Enlighted`
`17:18.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`dile que si`
`17:19.26`	`Enlighted`	`que sí qué?`
`17:19.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero hay que montar eso bien y con calma, en una 2º parte de la misma pagina.. y tengo que hablar con shadoi tambien`
`17:19.28`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`17:19.35`	`Enlighted`	`ok`
`17:19.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`que si, que me interesa lo del CMS ;)`
`17:21.56`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, , Thanatermesis is interested in the CMS thing (lol), but he says that he wants to mount it carefully (and as a second web page, however the one he already has). And he has to talk also with "shadoi"`
`17:22.18`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Como te dije ayer, conta conmigo para las traducciones al Ingles`
`17:22.22`	`Enlighted`	`and he also`
`17:22.27`	`Enlighted`	`que mal XD`
`17:22.30`	`Enlighted`	`y conmigo`
`17:22.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, ok`
`17:22.47`	`Enlighted`	`y para testear paquetes`
`17:22.49`	`Enlighted`	`^^`
`17:23.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto, eso estara en la seccion unstable de elive ;)`
`17:23.17`	`Enlighted`	`jejeje`
`17:23.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`por ejemplo el futuro panel de control ;)`
`17:23.33`	`Enlighted`	`solo una peticion...incluye en la seccion unstable el X.org 6.8.2! XD`
`17:23.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`habra que esperar a que pase a testing para ello ;)`
`17:23.48`	`Enlighted`	`estoy deseando tener transparencias y sombras reales en el E17`
`17:23.52`	`Enlighted`	`:D_`
`17:23.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`17:23.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso peta mucho`
`17:24.05`	`Enlighted`	`por algo estara en unstable`
`17:24.07`	`Enlighted`	`xD`
`17:24.33`	`Enlighted`	`si quieres pilla el CVS de la 7.0`
`17:24.39`	`Enlighted`	`que seguro petara menos`
`17:24.52`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, !"!`
`17:25.22`	`Enlighted`	`que?`
`17:25.24`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:25.53`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, $~#½[]}@\@##`
`17:26.02`	`Enlighted`	`ah, vale`
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`17:26.11`	`Enlighted`	`totalmente de acuerdo contigo`
`17:26.15`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
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`17:26.41`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: "mount it carefully" ?`
`17:26.49`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: "second web page" ?`
`17:27.28`	`Enlighted`	`ya, ya xD`
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`17:27.37`	`Enlighted`	`es que me acabo de despertar de la siesta y no toi fino`
`17:27.41`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:27.54`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Forgive this assho@½ xD`
`17:28.05`	`Enlighted`	`:(`
`17:28.22`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: ???`
`17:28.29`	`Enlighted`	`pues con el español yo soy mejor que tú`
`17:28.31`	`Enlighted`	`ale`
`17:28.34`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:29.21`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Nothing, that message was only for Thanatermesis`
`17:29.27`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Si`
`17:29.32`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Eso seguro ?=)`
`17:32.29`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Que, te ofrecieron poner Elive en el site oficial de Enlightenment?`
`17:33.18`	`Enlighted`	`sip`
`17:33.26`	`Enlighted`	`como una seccion añadida`
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`17:33.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, solo el mismo estilo de mantenimiento de la`
`17:33.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`ein ?`
`17:33.49`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, ?`
`17:33.49`	`dererk`	`"Thanatermesis no, solo el mismo estilo de mantenimiento de la " ???`
`17:34.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`como que una seccion añadida de la pagina de e.org ?`
`17:34.18`	`Enlighted`	`si no he enetndido mal, te ofrecieron ponerla como una seccion añadida a la web de e.org`
`17:34.36`	`Enlighted`	`creo`
`17:34.38`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Pero, algo que ver con elive?`
`17:34.38`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:35.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`y entonces que pasaria con elivecd.org Enlighted ?`
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`17:35.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo no quiero que elive sea una seccion de otra pagina.. quiero que sea una pagina aparte xD`
`17:35.26`	`dererk`	`No entiendo Thanatermesis... Algo aparte?`
`17:35.32`	`wesker`	`hola!`
`17:35.38`	`dererk`	`wesker, Hi!`
`17:35.39`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, jodo, pero k mas te dara?`
`17:35.50`	`wesker`	`pq no le meten el drivr fglrx, el oficial de ati, a elive ?`
`17:35.57`	`wesker`	`o lo tiene y no me he dado cuenta?`
`17:35.59`	`Enlighted`	`te dara mas fama que elive sea la "distro oficial" del E`
`17:36.03`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`17:36.12`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Eso, eso`
`17:36.14`	`dererk`	`?=)`
`17:36.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, pero no quiero que Elive se reduzca a "una simple seccion"`
`17:36.27`	`Enlighted`	`joer`
`17:36.34`	`wesker`	`Enlighted: distro oficial? entonces no deberia ser live, "creo"`
`17:36.48`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Aunque despues te diran "Bueno, fue un gusto trabajar contigo, pero hemos encontrado a alguien mas capas en el area"`
`17:36.49`	`dererk`	`xDDDD`
`17:36.53`	`Enlighted`	`wesker, siempre se pueden hacer 2 versiones, como pasa con ubuntu`
`17:37.03`	`Enlighted`	`no debe de ser dificil hacer una distro instalable`
`17:37.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, imaginate que tu vendes un producto revolucionario... donde prefieres ver ese producto? en una tienda dedicada solamente y unicamente a el o en una seccion de un supermercado ?`
`17:37.24`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Ubuntu es inestable para ti?`
`17:37.43`	`Enlighted`	`dererk, y yo k se si nunca la he probado`
`17:37.45`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, En el metro`
`17:37.46`	`dererk`	`xD`
`17:37.51`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, preferiria k estuviera en ambos sitios`
`17:37.58`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:38.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`wesker, quien a dicho que Elive sea "solo live" ? se nota que no has leido la nueva descripcion de elive ;)`
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`17:38.19`	`wesker`	`Thanatermesis: se que se puede instalar`
`17:38.21`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Entonces porque dices que es inestable?`
`17:38.23`	`wesker`	`pero su nombre lo idica`
`17:38.26`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, digo instalable desde el principio`
`17:38.41`	`wesker`	`dererk: se puede considerar estable algo que est� en cvs ?`
`17:38.46`	`Enlighted`	`dererk, INSTALABLE`
`17:38.49`	`Enlighted`	`no inestable`
`17:38.51`	`Enlighted`	`XDDD`
`17:38.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`wesker, ya... solo el nombre, porque la instalacion no tiene nada que ver con la instalacion tipica de un liveCD como seria con los derivados de knoppix`
`17:38.59`	`dererk`	`wa`
`17:39.00`	`Enlighted`	`wesker, nas`
`17:39.19`	`wesker`	`Thanatermesis: el arranque con los colorines y tal es clavao al de knoppix solo que se le ha puesto en boot splash`
`17:39.21`	`dererk`	`wesker, Claro, tenes un CVS para stable y otro para development!`
`17:39.25`	`dererk`	`?=)`
`17:39.26`	`wesker`	`pero el arranque es igual`
`17:39.28`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Sorry`
`17:39.30`	`Enlighted`	`oh`
`17:39.32`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`17:39.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, pues eso si, si quieren poner el link de elive en la seccion y tal perfecto, pero no reducir el proyecto a una seccion de otro`
`17:39.33`	`Enlighted`	`XDD`
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`17:39.47`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Concuerdo contigo`
`17:39.51`	`dererk`	`?=)`
`17:39.56`	`wesker`	`yo tngo muchas esperanzas en este proyecto`
`17:39.59`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, vale, pos asi quedamos XD, pero has de armonizar tu web con la del E`
`17:40.08`	`Enlighted`	`hacerla maja, vamos`
`17:40.12`	`dererk`	`wesker, Es bueno, no solo tu ?=)`
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`17:40.17`	`Enlighted`	`=)`
`17:40.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`wesker, no te niego lo de los colorines, porque todos los liveCDs se basan en los mismos scripts de arranque... pero el sistema NO tiene nada que ver con knoppix`
`17:40.35`	`Enlighted`	`es verdad`
`17:40.39`	`Enlighted`	`se basa en otra distro`
`17:40.39`	`wesker`	`Thanatermesis: y sabes algo sobre fglrx?`
`17:40.43`	`wesker`	`pq no lo incluyen ?`
`17:41.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, claro que hay que hacerla maja... pero... yo ? con el trabajo que tengo ? xD y que pasaria si lo hace otro y no me gusta? :/`
`17:41.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque si te digo la verdad no me gusta el estilo de enlightenment.org actual para nada`
`17:41.23`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, joer, tú eres todo pegas`
`17:41.28`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:41.28`	`wesker`	`otra cosa que me destroz�, es que instale elive en debian y me jodio todo mi sources.list y mi sudoers tb`
`17:41.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`me gustan hacer las cosas bien Enlighted ;)`
`17:41.36`	`wesker`	`eso creo que almenos deberia preguntarlo, no?`
`17:41.46`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, ya, ya, pero no hay que desconfiar tanto XD`
`17:41.54`	`dererk`	`wesker, Ni idea, vamos a buscar al proyect leader de Elive y a pegarle... Thanatermesis, lo conoces?`
`17:41.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`wesker, ya hay aceleracion para ati`
`17:41.55`	`dererk`	`xD`
`17:41.57`	`Enlighted`	`pues busca un colaborador y dile como quieres hacer la web`
`17:42.04`	`Enlighted`	`y ves revisando su trabajo`
`17:42.06`	`Enlighted`	`y ya ta`
`17:42.06`	`wesker`	`Thanatermesis: ?`
`17:42.15`	`wesker`	`el driver fglrx est� en la elive ?`
`17:42.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`<wesker> otra cosa que me destrozó, es que instale elive en debian y me jodio todo mi sources.list y mi sudoers tb`
`17:42.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`17:42.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`O_o`
`17:42.23`	`wesker`	`Thanatermesis: me pas�`
`17:42.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`que ?`
`17:42.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`no entiendo`
`17:42.36`	`wesker`	`ke me modific� los 2 archivos a su aire`
`17:42.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`no entiendo que quieres decir`
`17:42.46`	`wesker`	`borr� los mios y puso los suyos`
`17:42.52`	`wesker`	`encima el sources.list lo puso mal`
`17:42.53`	`Enlighted`	`wesker, instalaste una distro encima de otra?`
`17:42.56`	`wesker`	`con un par de errores`
`17:42.58`	`Enlighted`	`¬¬`
`17:43.05`	`wesker`	`Enlighted: en la web dice qu se puede`
`17:43.13`	`dererk`	`wesker, Sobrescribiste una distro con otra????`
`17:43.15`	`Enlighted`	`DONDE lo dice?`
`17:43.22`	`wesker`	`news creo ke era`
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`17:43.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, no es desconfianza.. es que alguien puede hacer algo pensando que lo hace bien y que le gusta a el... y que a mi no me guste, mira el estilo de la pagina de enlightenment.org , te gusta el estilo? es importante la pagina, no ? pues a mi no me gusta NADA, prefiero mil veces el estilo que tenian hace 3 meses`
`17:43.50`	`wesker`	`This repository works also for debian or ubuntu (prepaired for works good in debian-testing)`
`17:44.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`no has instalado elive`
`17:44.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`solo has intentando instalar los paquetes`
`17:44.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`voy a borrar el repositorio`
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`17:44.29`	`wesker`	`Thanatermesis: te doy la razon ami tb me gustaba m�s el otro estilo`
`17:44.57`	`wesker`	`una pregunta a ver quien me la soluciona`
`17:45.03`	`wesker`	`porque usar eterm? porque no aterm ?`
`17:45.11`	`wesker`	`que tiene eterm ke lo haga especial en e ?`
`17:46.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`<h2>Use this repository with your risk, this not are for install Elive, and are`
`17:46.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`prepaired only for works in Elive... In any case, the repository are moving... b`
`17:46.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`ut the packages rest in the web page for a little more time</h2>`
`17:46.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`esta bien escrito eso Enlighted ?`
`17:46.29`	`Enlighted`	`spera`
`17:46.35`	`Enlighted`	`AT your risk`
`17:46.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`wesker, mejor funcionamiento con e16`
`17:46.51`	`wesker`	`Thanatermesis: mejor funcionamento... desarrolla eso please`
`17:46.55`	`Enlighted`	`que quieres decir con lo k viene despues?`
`17:47.04`	`wesker`	`Enlighted: ya ya mi risk corr� y pill� el backup x'D`
`17:47.35`	`Enlighted`	`the packages WILL STAY`
`17:47.49`	`Enlighted`	`oh, espera`
`17:48.38`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Oye, te has dado cuenta de que todos los sites funcionan bien ?`
`17:49.15`	`Enlighted`	`Use this repository at your own risk, this is not for installing Elive, and the packages are ready only to work with Elive... In any case, the repository are moving... but the packages will stay in the web page for a little more time`
`17:49.22`	`Enlighted`	`ala`
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`17:49.41`	`Enlighted`	`mierda`
`17:49.47`	`Enlighted`	`the repository IS moving`
`17:49.56`	`Enlighted`	`are = plural :P`
`17:50.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah`
`17:50.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`voy a borrar la seccion news y fuera`
`17:50.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`acabamos antes`
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`17:51.19`	`Anarien`	`piticlin!`
`17:51.32`	`dererk`	`tina ?`
`17:51.32`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, ?`
`17:51.34`	`dererk`	`Anarien ?`
`17:51.38`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:51.39`	`dererk`	`Tunner ?`
`17:51.51`	`Anarien`	`Tunner?`
`17:51.53`	`dererk`	`Anarien Tunner?`
`17:51.54`	`Anarien`	`XD`
`17:52.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, en todo caso sigo sin entender la oferta de la pagina`
`17:52.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`17:52.18`	`dererk`	`Anarien, "Anarien" es un alias de Tina?`
`17:52.18`	`dererk`	`xD`
`17:52.33`	`dererk`	`Tina "Anarien" Tunner`
`17:52.33`	`dererk`	`xD`
`17:52.54`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Yo tampoco xD`
`17:53.04`	`Anarien`	`ahhh ya entiendo!,dererk no es Tunner es Turner XD`
`17:53.35`	`Anarien`	`dererk te refieres a Tina Turner?`
`17:53.42`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, can you resume what exactly are you offering to Thanatermesis? :)`
`17:53.43`	`dererk`	`Anarien, Sisisis, excusas excusas`
`17:53.44`	`dererk`	`xD`
`17:54.01`	`samuel`	`can someone plz tell me what the "engage" item in the menu editor is for?`
`17:54.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://elivecd.org/news.html`
`17:54.19`	`Anarien`	`dererk que va,yo soy mas guapa que esa... xD`
`17:54.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`ala, fuera`
`17:54.21`	`Enlighted`	`engage = icon bar OS/X-style`
`17:54.24`	`Enlighted`	`AFAIK`
`17:54.26`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`17:54.32`	`Anarien`	`dererk: pero si,me llamo Tina`
`17:54.41`	`Enlighted`	`Trina?`
`17:54.42`	`dererk`	`Anarien, Pos, hasta que no veo, no creo xD`
`17:54.49`	`Enlighted`	`como el refresco ese de frutas?`
`17:54.51`	`Enlighted`	`XDD`
`17:54.58`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Es que Anarien es un bot mal progamado`
`17:55.00`	`dererk`	`xD`
`17:55.04`	`Enlighted`	`jajaja`
`17:55.09`	`Anarien`	`¬¬`
`17:55.18`	`Anarien`	`uys que signos... xD`
`17:55.34`	`Enlighted`	`si? mola`
`17:55.37`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:55.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`17:55.44`	`Anarien`	`vosotros si que estais "trinaos"`
`17:55.45`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: well, in the spirit of unifying the E sites raster is offering (for e.org) a site design`
`17:56.06`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: as I am importing this to my CMS for e.org and get-e.org it makes sense to offer the CMS to elive too`
`17:56.14`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: and I can offer hosting too, if that suits`
`17:56.29`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: but the hosting can be anywhere - the CMS can export over SSH or FTP`
`17:56.35`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, te ofrece un nuevo diseño de la web, hosting y el tema del CMS que ya sabrás tu lo k es`
`17:56.38`	`HandyAndE`	`afterall, e.org is on sf.net, but I manage it`
`17:56.42`	`Enlighted`	`pq yo no se k es CMS`
`17:56.43`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`17:56.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, what are the limit for month for the hosting ?`
`17:57.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, hosted in sf.net ?`
`17:57.07`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, ninguno :) me parece`
`17:57.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, preguntale sobre el diseño... dile que no es por criticar pero que el nuevo diseño de e.org no me gusta, preferia mucho el que tenian antes, jeje`
`17:57.44`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: what "limit" ?`
`17:57.53`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, bandwitch limit`
`17:57.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`transfer for month`
`17:58.07`	`HandyAndE`	`bandwidth / transfer is unmetered`
`17:58.10`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, no tiene liiiimite de transferencia`
`17:58.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah ok`
`17:58.16`	`Enlighted`	`ves?`
`17:58.17`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`17:58.18`	`HandyAndE`	`but if you take a lot for a long time I will be annoyed!`
`17:58.27`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`17:58.30`	`HandyAndE`	`get-e takes about 6Gig / day`
`17:58.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`good, the host are important HandyAndE , but the domain are good with the new www.elivecd.org`
`17:59.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`wow`
`17:59.19`	`samuel`	`Enlighted, is there any way to turn it on you may know about? cant figure it out....`
`17:59.24`	`Enlighted`	`creo que puede compaginarse...`
`17:59.29`	`HandyAndE`	`I can allow you to have whatever domain you want - I can have name based hosting, forwarded hosting etc`
`17:59.40`	`Enlighted`	`samuel, ?¿?`
`17:59.42`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, What you mean with "take a lot for a long time"?`
`17:59.54`	`samuel`	`Enlighted, the osx-style bar?`
`18:00.11`	`Enlighted`	`samuel, ah, sorry I haven't tested it...:)`
`18:00.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, preguntale como funcionaria la parte de "diseño"`
`18:00.21`	`samuel`	`thx`
`18:00.28`	`Enlighted`	`dont know even if it's installed by default`
`18:00.32`	`Enlighted`	`i'll see now`
`18:00.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`good HandyAndE :)`
`18:01.03`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: if you were to download > 1 Gig per hour for > 1 day I might complain`
`18:01.06`	`Enlighted`	`W0W`
`18:01.17`	`Enlighted`	`samuel, just write "engage" in console`
`18:01.25`	`Enlighted`	`and it will be activated`
`18:01.28`	`Enlighted`	`it's cool!`
`18:01.32`	`HandyAndE`	`everyone knows slashdot is annoying - so that is OK, but if you hit lots too often - grr`
`18:01.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en fr everyone knows slashdot is annoying - so that is OK, but if you hit lots too often - gr`
`18:01.47`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: you like my engage? :)`
`18:01.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`heheh`
`18:02.22`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, yeah, long time I tried to install it under mandrake`
`18:02.27`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Did YOU code the Engade?`
`18:02.28`	`Enlighted`	`and now finally I can use it`
`18:02.30`	`Enlighted`	`MWAHAHAHAHAHA`
`18:02.32`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`18:02.44`	`dererk`	`engage*`
`18:02.51`	`Enlighted`	`dererk, si`
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`18:03.03`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Cool ?=)`
`18:03.20`	`Elive_user`	`hali`
`18:03.42`	`Elive_user`	`tud valaki magyarul?`
`18:03.55`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user, ?????`
`18:04.10`	`Enlighted`	`?¿`
`18:04.11`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Thanatermesis comments that he doesn't like very much the new desing of E.org and He liked the old one, he asks about what thing would be managed`
`18:05.04`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, it would be possible to make a design different but in the same style as the E.org one?`
`18:05.48`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Copion! xD`
`18:05.51`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, por cierno, Engage me merienda medio wallpaper`
`18:05.55`	`Enlighted`	`*cierto`
`18:05.58`	`Enlighted`	`no se pq`
`18:06.06`	`Enlighted`	`dererk, ;)`
`18:06.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, no puedes lanzarlo en e17, hay para ello un modulo`
`18:06.15`	`Enlighted`	`cual?`
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`18:06.24`	`Enlighted`	`ibar?`
`18:06.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt tud valaki magyarul`
`18:07.28`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Do you understand?`
`18:07.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, enlightenment-remote -module-load engage`
`18:07.56`	`Enlighted`	`vale, espera k reinicio E17 y lo pruebo XD`
`18:08.06`	`dererk`	`Enlighted, Sisi, vete!!!!`
`18:08.44`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: I did a lot of old engage, but wrote the whole module`
`18:08.52`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: based on genneths code base`
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`18:09.23`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: Enlighted: the design on e.org is _not_ what we are using`
`18:09.35`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, I see... well, you did a pretty good job`
`18:09.39`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: dererk: it is http://rasterman.com/e2/`
`18:09.48`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: thanks`
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`18:10.03`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, repite el comando plz`
`18:10.06`	`Elive_user`	`hi`
`18:10.11`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, dice que el diseño de e.org no es lo que ellos usan`
`18:10.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, enlightenment-remote -module-load engage`
`18:10.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`no necesitas reiniciar e17`
`18:10.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, de todas formas en el menu tienes para reiniciar E17 sin salir ;)`
`18:11.07`	`Elive_user`	`Estoy instalando la version 0.3, pero si sale una nueva version, como actualizo...`
`18:11.16`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, no, lo decia pq habia abierto "mal" el engage`
`18:11.29`	`Enlighted`	`y no se cerraba bien, nisiquiera reiniciando las E como acabas de decir`
`18:11.30`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Dice que usan http://rasterman.com/e2/`
`18:11.30`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:11.50`	`Malolillo`	`Estoy instalando la version 0.3, pero si sale una nueva version, como actualizo...`
`18:11.57`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Ese parece muy parecido al diseño que usas tu`
`18:11.59`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, No?`
`18:12.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, http://elivecd.org/tunning.html`
`18:12.06`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, command not found`
`18:12.08`	`Enlighted`	`?¿`
`18:12.11`	`bit0`	`hola Thanatermesis`
`18:12.13`	`Malolillo`	`gracias, lo miro`
`18:12.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`hola bit0`
`18:12.29`	`bit0`	`enhorabuena!!, sales en osdir y m�s sitios :))`
`18:12.40`	`Enlighted`	`en osdir tb?`
`18:12.41`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:12.45`	`Enlighted`	`direccion, plz`
`18:12.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, enlightenment_remote`
`18:12.46`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Nice, I like the part which says "Blah Blah" and the other to, "Blah Blah"`
`18:12.47`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:12.59`	`Malolillo`	`el dise;o de la distro es genial, enorabuena >D`
`18:13.13`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, y luego?`
`18:13.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias bit0 :)`
`18:13.40`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Que le digo?`
`18:13.40`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: :-p it is a template, blah blah will not be tehre!!!`
`18:13.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, yes, I like the design from e2`
`18:14.00`	`Malolillo`	`voy a reiniciar, adios`
`18:14.14`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, a little question....E supports X.org transparencies and real shadows? :D`
`18:14.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`joder.. que rapido instala elive xD`
`18:14.37`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, luego que se hace? arrancar el engage normalmente?`
`18:14.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, lo cargas desde el menu de modulos`
`18:14.52`	`Enlighted`	`vale, vale`
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`18:14.55`	`Enlighted`	`visto, thx`
`18:14.56`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:15.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk, no digas nada, eso de "bla bla " es normal`
`18:16.31`	`dererk`	`HandyAndE, Thanatermesis, hehe, of course I know... It was only a joke... don't you have humor sense? xDDD`
`18:16.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`18:16.51`	`Anarien`	`vaya lio tengo... xD`
`18:16.52`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: no x.org trans or shadows no, it is a bad implamentation and too slow`
`18:17.13`	`HandyAndE`	`dererk: "sense of humour" yes, but not when talking to folk from different countries ;)`
`18:17.15`	`Enlighted`	`ow`
`18:17.21`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
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`18:18.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es yes, but not when talking to folk from different countries ;)`
`18:18.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:18.16`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Enlighted: e17 has it's own way to handle transparency/shadows`
`18:18.16`	`Anarien`	`hello Anarien`
`18:18.22`	`Anarien`	`jaa`
`18:18.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, trans... ?`
`18:18.49`	`Enlighted`	`pr0t0cod7, ah :D and transparencies can be activated now?`
`18:19.06`	`dererk`	`Anarien, bot bot!`
`18:19.07`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:19.39`	`HandyAndE`	`heading home in a bit to port sites to e2 design - shall I create the e-live site??? shall I include the translations thing that was requested?`
`18:19.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, despues de un rato con el nuevo modo... se nota bien el cambio de velocidad? :)`
`18:19.55`	`Anarien`	`dererk calla calla que tengo un lio con este cliente...`
`18:20.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, the www.elivecd.org exist (domain)`
`18:20.09`	`Anarien`	`dererk,los guevos bot!`
`18:20.34`	`dererk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:20.35`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:20.39`	`Anarien`	`hasta luego`
`18:20.41`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Enlighted: right now transparency is supported only inside "efl objets" like the modules on the desktop (yes its _real_ trans..)...or inside an efl app (elitaire for ex.)`
`18:20.42`	`Anarien`	`:P`
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`18:21.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, include translations HandyAndE and heading home... Im dont know`
`18:21.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`mira dererk, ya hiciste cabrear a anarien`
`18:21.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`si es que...`
`18:21.34`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, como añado accesos directos al engage? :D`
`18:21.46`	`pr0t0cod7`	`pr0t0cod7: not between windows because Xorg composite extension is not yet good enough`
`18:22.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, http://elivecd.org/tunning.html`
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`18:22.14`	`Enlighted`	`pr0t0cod7, have u took a look to X.org 7.0 CVS's?`
`18:22.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`nope`
`18:22.25`	`Malolillo`	`hi, im back`
`18:22.38`	`Enlighted`	`maybe composite is much improved in it`
`18:22.41`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`18:22.48`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: I know it exists - but I need to create it in cms / web space / design things?`
`18:22.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, puedes cambiar tu nombre fijamente en las opciones de xchat (primera opcion, primera etiqueta)`
`18:23.03`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Enlighted: maybe...and maybe you need a certain graphic card to handle it properly :p`
`18:23.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`e17 works fully perfectly with any card`
`18:23.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, mmmh, yes, create all your choice ;) if after is easy to modify if needs, ok`
`18:23.53`	`Enlighted`	`pr0t0cod7, a GF4 ti it'll handle it properly, I presume`
`18:23.57`	`pr0t0cod7`	`any "decent" card`
`18:24.06`	`Enlighted`	`and who don't have a card at least as good as this one?`
`18:24.07`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Enlighted: dunno`
`18:24.11`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`18:24.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7, yes, in my 2 MB card works perfectly ;)`
`18:24.21`	`pr0t0cod7`	`:)`
`18:24.22`	`Malolillo`	`oks gracias Thanatermesis, pero estoy en la live, intentando instalarla en el hd`
`18:24.33`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`18:24.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`because the images are located in the RAM and not in the memory of the graphic card pr0t0cod7 ;)`
`18:24.49`	`pr0t0cod7`	`sure`
`18:24.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Malolillo, de todas formas lee http://elivecd.org/tunning.html`
`18:25.05`	`Malolillo`	`oks`
`18:25.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`te sera util ;)`
`18:25.15`	`Malolillo`	`:)`
`18:25.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`se ira escribiendo con el tiempo...`
`18:25.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, me puedes revistar esto?: http://elivecd.org/news.html`
`18:25.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`nick collision? xD`
`18:25.43`	`Enlighted`	`marrchando`
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`18:26.57`	`Malolillo`	`el DMA-Mode no está activado en la 0.2, pero lo está en la 0.3?`
`18:27.04`	`Enlighted`	`This is a document (updated recently) for tunning your Elive installation, in order to obtain the best performance. Click in this link: Tunning`
`18:27.06`	`Malolillo`	`no pone nada`
`18:27.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`no Malolillo , en ninguna,`
`18:27.20`	`Malolillo`	`oks`
`18:27.44`	`Enlighted`	`This is a document (updated recently) to tweak your Elive installation, in order to obtain the best performance. Click in this link: Tunning`
`18:27.49`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, esa es mejor`
`18:28.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`updateado Enlighted ;)`
`18:28.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`ops`
`18:28.58`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:29.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`re-updated :)`
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`18:29.25`	`wesker_`	`re`
`18:30.17`	`reliver`	`hello`
`18:31.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`yop, hello`
`18:31.56`	`dererk`	`Hi again...!`
`18:31.58`	`dererk`	`?=)`
`18:34.21`	`Malolillo`	`voy a reiniciar a ver si ahora se ha instalado todo bien`
`18:34.24`	`Malolillo`	`aios`
`18:34.33`	`dererk`	`?=)`
`18:35.58`	`reliver`	`wow, Thanatermesis, what a jewel of a distro :-)`
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`18:36.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`:) reliver`
`18:36.55`	`reliver`	`thanatos + hermetic ?`
`18:37.01`	`reliver`	`some occult meaning ?`
`18:37.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehehe, tanatos + hermes + nemesis ;)`
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`18:37.49`	`reliver`	`ah, food for thought.`
`18:37.55`	`dererk`	`xD`
`18:38.00`	`mariodebian`	`hello :P`
`18:38.06`	`dererk`	`Hi mariodebian`
`18:38.09`	`reliver`	`do you know Zen Linux that had similar aspirations ?`
`18:38.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`hello mariodebian`
`18:39.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`zen linux ?`
`18:39.18`	`mariodebian`	`hi derek & Thanatermesis`
`18:39.21`	`reliver`	`zenlinux.org`
`18:39.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`18:40.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`not have screenshots reliver ?`
`18:40.35`	`wesker_`	`mariodebian: wen blog`
`18:40.39`	`wesker_`	`lo leo amenudo :)`
`18:41.05`	`reliver`	`the problem is Raymond Medeiros, the maker is very difficult to work with: extremely lunatic and unforgiving.`
`18:42.29`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, E17 carga el modulo del engage automaticamente cada vez que se inicia?`
`18:42.30`	`reliver`	`i can probably dig some up, he had nice pictures of japanese gardens as desktop background.`
`18:42.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha reliver`
`18:42.35`	`mariodebian`	`wesker: gracias... se hace/escribe lo que se puede`
`18:42.42`	`Enlighted`	`reliver, i want one!!!!`
`18:42.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, una vez lo configuras y mantienes la version de E si`
`18:42.58`	`Wesker`	`Enlighted: ami el engage no me va con E17 solo con E16 :(`
`18:43.04`	`Enlighted`	`lo configuro como?`
`18:43.13`	`Enlighted`	`Wesker, es facil de ejecutar con el E17 :)`
`18:43.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`solo cargas el modulo y fuera... entangle`
`18:43.18`	`Wesker`	`ami me da error`
`18:43.27`	`Enlighted`	`has de poner un comando para cargarlo como modulo`
`18:43.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, solo una vez`
`18:43.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es i can probably dig some up, he had nice pictures of japanese gardens as desktop background.`
`18:44.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes reliver , sure, send it ;)`
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`18:44.45`	`Malolillo`	`ya toy aqui`
`18:44.46`	`Wesker`	`como hago para que el eterm no m ehaga efectos en las fuentes?`
`18:44.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`todo bien Malolillo ? :)`
`18:45.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`Wesker, creo que tendras que leer el man`
`18:45.22`	`Wesker`	`Thanatermesis: es en loque estoy`
`18:45.24`	`Wesker`	`--font-fx`
`18:45.26`	`Wesker`	`pero nose que ponerle`
`18:45.29`	`Wesker`	`con 0 o none nova`
`18:45.37`	`Malolillo`	`casi todo bien, mi Debian Sarge no me lo ha detectado el Grub`
`18:45.39`	`Malolillo`	`:P`
`18:45.39`	`Wesker`	`Finally, for no font effects at all, simply specify the keyword none.`
`18:45.43`	`Wesker`	`y aki dice ke es none`
`18:45.57`	`Wesker`	`ale ara si va... lo abria escrito mal`
`18:45.58`	`Malolillo`	`Ahora, el XP si :D`
`18:46.05`	`dererk`	`IBM Dona un Código de Fuente Abierta -- http://www.ebizlatam.com/noticias/wmview.php?ArtID=3585`
`18:47.35`	`Malolillo`	`otra cosa, ¿no tengo opcion de configurar como usuario normal, aunque pida pass de root?`
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`18:49.18`	`Enlighted`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:49.23`	`Enlighted`	`mierda`
`18:49.25`	`Enlighted`	`lo siento`
`18:49.32`	`Enlighted`	`olvide el /join delante`
`18:49.33`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:49.39`	`Malolillo`	`:D`
`18:50.11`	`Enlighted`	`eeesto furula`
`18:50.56`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, lo unico malo que veo al engage es que los FPS al zoomear los iconos son muy bajos...(no me gusta ese efecto)`
`18:51.11`	`Enlighted`	`es arreglable, una "feature", o una opcion?`
`18:51.12`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:51.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, bueno.. .no se puede ser perfecto ;) de echo tengo una persona en un privado que me pregunto por eso porque por lo visto la fedora no le dejó ni el boot del windows... aunque me estoy pensando el agregar ese "feature" ;)`
`18:51.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer`
`18:52.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`los FPS Enlighted ? o_O`
`18:52.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`no entiendo, a mi me funciona de maravilla`
`18:53.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso en e17 o e16 ?`
`18:53.04`	`Enlighted`	`frames por segundo`
`18:53.10`	`Enlighted`	`E17, en el engage`
`18:53.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`en el e17 nunca lo e probado.. preguntale a hany`
`18:53.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`handy`
`18:53.30`	`Enlighted`	`el efecto de zoom cuando pasas el cursor por el raton`
`18:53.33`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:53.35`	`Enlighted`	`ok`
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`18:57.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Enlighted> el efecto de zoom cuando pasas el cursor por el raton`
`18:57.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
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`18:58.16`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, cuando pasas el cursor del raton por los ocinos`
`18:58.21`	`Enlighted`	`ICONOS`
`18:58.23`	`Enlighted`	`arrrgh`
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`18:58.45`	`Malolillo`	`hola otra ve`
`18:58.58`	`Malolillo`	`esto se ha cerrado por algun fallo :(`
`18:59.04`	`Enlighted`	`segfault?`
`18:59.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, bueno.. .no se puede ser perfecto ;) de echo tengo una persona en un privado que me pregunto por eso porque por lo visto la fedora no le dejó ni el boot del windows... aunque me estoy pensando el agregar ese "feature" ;)`
`18:59.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, ocinos? xDD`
`18:59.50`	`Enlighted`	`iconos, ya lo corregí XD`
`18:59.52`	`Malolillo`	`bueno, como puedo modificar el grub? soy muy novato en esto :P`
`19:00.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`edita el /boot/grub/menu.lst`
`19:00.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`con scite`
`19:00.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`y ale ;)`
`19:00.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo me pior`
`19:00.17`	`Malolillo`	`oks, lo miro`
`19:00.34`	`Malolillo`	`aios`
`19:00.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`Ok, I reboot for start the migration Debian -> Elive :)`
`19:01.01`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`19:01.17`	`Enlighted`	`weno, pos Engage ya es mi barra de iconos por defecto`
`19:01.20`	`Enlighted`	`^^`
`19:01.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`~reboot`
`19:01.25`	`apt`	`Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$?`
`19:02.34`	`dererk`	`~reboot dererk`
`19:02.56`	`dererk`	`uhhh, no era asi xD`
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`19:03.43`	`Malolillo`	`vi ver si carga ahora la Debian`
`19:03.46`	`reliver`	`Thanatermesis they seem to have become quite secretive and i have less in the archive then i thought.`
`19:04.31`	`reliver`	`but on the ZenLinux 1.1.4 LiveCD, i could dig them up, where would you look for them there ?`
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`19:05.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
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`19:06.12`	`Watio`	`holas a todos`
`19:06.27`	`Watio`	`alguien sabe como instalar engage en E16`
`19:06.28`	`Watio`	`?`
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`19:08.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`Watio, el engage ya viene instalado y configurado por defecto en Elive`
`19:08.40`	`reliver`	`Thanatermesis they seem to have become quite secretive and i have less in the archive then i thought.`
`19:08.48`	`reliver`	`but on the ZenLinux 1.1.4 LiveCD, i could dig them up, where would you look for them there ?`
`19:08.49`	`dererk`	`bueno, voy a buscar una Suicide booth y vuelvo al rato`
`19:09.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es but on the ZenLinux 1.1.4 LiveCD, i could dig them up, where would you look for them there ?`
`19:09.13`	`dats`	`hola`
`19:09.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es they seem to have become quite secretive and i have less in the archive then i thought.`
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`19:09.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh, its posible to Im look to the livecD reliver ... how download ?`
`19:09.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`if you mention its good for make a look... ;)`
`19:10.17`	`nameles`	`Is there a way to eject the CD and shutdown the computer rather than rebooting?`
`19:10.18`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, engage eats a lot of CPU while u navigate between icons!`
`19:10.26`	`Enlighted`	`50-60% cpu`
`19:10.27`	`Enlighted`	`D:`
`19:10.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`nameles, Im don't know :)`
`19:11.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`type "halt" , its more easy`
`19:11.10`	`reliver`	`no ... (gracias para traducir) mas queria decir que tengo menos que pensei en mi archivos :-)`
`19:11.42`	`nameles`	`I'll try it. Thanks`
`19:11.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`reliver, its posible to send me a screenshot ?`
`19:12.05`	`reliver`	`vou tentar continuar en espanol: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/zenlinux/`
`19:12.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`DVD ? mhhh :/`
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`19:12.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`boh, ok, Im download :)`
`19:13.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`in what are based desktop reliver ?`
`19:14.07`	`reliver`	`conoces mi pagina sobre Ubuntu, Thanatermesis ? http://justwars.com/linux/ubuntu/`
`19:14.43`	`reliver`	`ZenLinux desktop you are asking ?`
`19:15.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`19:15.37`	`reliver`	`debian as pure as possible.`
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`19:16.04`	`reliver`	`he had some good ideas for the extensibility of the distro,`
`19:16.05`	`Enlighted`	`re-re-ree`
`19:16.34`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`19:16.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, but one debian is pure in all points`
`19:16.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, but one debian is pure debian in all points`
`19:16.56`	`reliver`	`you can make "packs" containing assorted application suites.`
`19:17.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`good`
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`19:17.25`	`reliver`	`pure as opposed to ubuntu, for example, was his aim.`
`19:17.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, ok`
`19:18.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`not have a default desktop ¿?`
`19:18.17`	`reliver`	`but he absolutely does not stand criticism: he is the little god on earth, the god of vengeance :-)`
`19:18.41`	`Enlighted`	`?`
`19:18.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehehe`
`19:18.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, zenlinux`
`19:18.58`	`reliver`	`yes, it was a very lightweight desktop for geeks, by default.`
`19:19.09`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, el Zen no tiene nada k ver con la venganza`
`19:19.18`	`Enlighted`	`y lo digo yo, que soy un seguidor de ese estilo de vida`
`19:19.20`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`19:19.57`	`*** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ`
`19:20.27`	`* topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/8022" \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org * NEW DOMAIN ! *** \|\| your installed Elive are slow? Just configure DMA or contact Thanatermesis`
`19:21.04`	`Enlighted`	`dios`
`19:21.06`	`* topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/8022" \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org * NEW DOMAIN ! *** \|\| your installed Elive are slow? www.elivecd.org/tunning.html`
`19:21.07`	`Enlighted`	`amo el ibox`
`19:21.08`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`19:21.09`	`reliver`	`Thanatermesis, couldn't we start a elive mailinglist ?`
`19:21.22`	`Enlighted`	`or elive forum`
`19:21.23`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`19:21.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`not started for this moments reliver`
`19:21.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`posible with the new future CMS Enlighted ? :)`
`19:21.46`	`reliver`	`i could start one if you like.`
`19:22.03`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, qué cojones significa CMS?`
`19:22.04`	`Enlighted`	`XDD`
`19:22.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, lo de la pagina...`
`19:22.37`	`Enlighted`	`claro k será posible`
`19:22.39`	`Enlighted`	`imagino`
`19:22.40`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`19:22.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, forum... mailing list... what are best? forum ?`
`19:22.50`	`Enlighted`	`both can be active`
`19:22.51`	`reliver`	`they serve different purposes,`
`19:22.52`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`19:23.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`for what purpose for example are good a ML ?`
`19:23.13`	`reliver`	`in the last two-three years forum was much more popular,`
`19:23.53`	`reliver`	`but it is more anonymous, more open, whereas on a mailinglist you can better build a community.`
`19:25.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes but.. the problems/questions of the final users are good to post in a forum... but Im don't know for what are good (or in this moments) the ML`
`19:25.30`	`reliver`	`would you like the first few weeks archive of the ZenLinux mailinglist ?`
`19:25.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`x en es would you like the first few weeks archive of the ZenLinux mailinglist ?`
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`19:26.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es would you like the first few weeks archive of the ZenLinux mailinglist ?`
`19:26.38`	`reliver`	`if you want to enable peer to peer support most effectively, a eLive wiki could serve well.`
`19:26.56`	`reliver`	`the Mandrake/Mandriva community does this, for example.`
`19:27.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, I like to include for this moments a wiki, one person... mmmh, pr0t0cod7 c'etait toi ?`
`19:27.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah, no`
`19:27.44`	`Elive_user2`	`WOW Elive is cool. I couldn't user ACPI but with ELive it works.`
`19:28.07`	`Elive_user2`	`It's telling me about my temprature and my battery status.`
`19:28.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im confused in the wiki for Elive and for a doc to im making in my not-busy time, hehe`
`19:28.11`	`Elive_user2`	`wohow`
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`19:28.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`:) Elive_user2`
`19:28.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, by default the acpi are activated in the boot ;)`
`19:29.42`	`Elive_user2`	`yes I know. But I thought my ACPI-Tables are corrupt.`
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`19:30.29`	`Anarien`	`respes`
`19:30.40`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: me ocurre una cosa...`
`19:30.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`dime Anarien`
`19:31.08`	`Anarien`	`cuando creo un icono con el engage-manager no me aparece hasta que reinicio el sistema`
`19:31.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2, and with the acpi of the Elive your machine works good ? :)`
`19:31.25`	`Anarien`	`ni siquiera reiniciando las X`
`19:31.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, hasta que reinicias el engage... si`
`19:31.49`	`Anarien`	`ummm, pues ahora que lo dices es verdad...`
`19:31.50`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanatermesis, I can see the temprature (don't know if it's right) and my battery status. Seems to be right.`
`19:31.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`es verdad que deberia de mostrar un mensaje al final informando de eso...`
`19:31.53`	`reliver`	`would you like to include Mozilla Thunderbird to attract mainstream users, Thanatermesis ?`
`19:32.00`	`Anarien`	`cuando se reinician las X,ya sirve`
`19:32.05`	`Elive_user2`	`It even warned me about low battery`
`19:32.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2, good, try to load "cpu-freq", but Im not sure if this works... in the modules menu`
`19:32.36`	`Elive_user2`	`I loaded it.`
`19:32.56`	`Elive_user2`	`It can't get my cpu-freg-`
`19:32.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`thunderbird reliver ? for mail ?`
`19:33.04`	`reliver`	`yes :-)`
`19:33.22`	`Elive_user2`	`I have a pentium M centrino notebook made by samsung.`
`19:33.25`	`Elive_user2`	`samsung x05`
`19:33.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`boh.. this is for the final user choice... because exist a lot of users to like one or another... sylpheed etc...`
`19:33.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah, ok Elive_user2`
`19:34.15`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanatermesis, but it could be possible, that the battery plugin doesn't work properly.`
`19:34.16`	`Elive_user2`	`mom`
`19:34.34`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: engage uses a lot of cpu in the e16 version, not the e17`
`19:34.44`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: one reason why it is not maintained any more`
`19:35.07`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, not maintained in E16? or in both?`
`19:35.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`50-60 in standalone..`
`19:35.14`	`Enlighted`	`(and Im using E17)`
`19:35.18`	`bit0`	`chao`
`19:35.22`	`bit0`	`hasta otra Thanatermesis`
`19:35.28`	`Elive_user2`	`I have an tester on my battery and it say's it's full. But if I disconnect the "chager" the battery module say's that battery's empty`
`19:35.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, bah, you don't know the good apretiation of the people for the standalone ;)`
`19:35.40`	`reliver`	`do you plan to enable building of configuration-profiles ?`
`19:35.47`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: only the e16 version`
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`19:35.54`	`Anarien`	`http://www.linuxjuegos.com/ <-- por si os quereis entretener`
`19:36.02`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: I do, but it is difficult to keep running`
`19:36.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I do, but it is difficult to keep running`
`19:36.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`boh... works good, you have looked my package engage-manager? :)`
`19:36.49`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, sorry to say that Im using E17 :) and it eats a lot of CPU (over 50-60%), while you are navigating between icons (zooming in-out them)`
`19:36.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`its only the first version, but have the posibility of create, modify and delete icons for standalone HandyAndE`
`19:37.00`	`Enlighted`	`tested with "top"`
`19:37.02`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`19:37.35`	`hehejo`	`Cool LiveCD - See you`
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`19:38.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, buena pagina, guardame el link que lo pondré en los bookmarks de elive ;)`
`19:39.41`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: oka`
`19:40.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, http://thana.no-ip.org/shots/engage-manager.jpg`
`19:40.41`	`Enlighted`	`cual era el comando para sacar una foto (screens) de tu pantalla?`
`19:40.45`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`19:40.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, "capturar nombre"`
`19:40.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`19:41.00`	`Enlighted`	`capturar?`
`19:41.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`si xD`
`19:41.06`	`Enlighted`	`lo dices en serio?`
`19:41.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`pruebalo ;)`
`19:41.15`	`Enlighted`	`ahora vere`
`19:41.19`	`Enlighted`	`en k formato lo guarda?`
`19:41.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`.jpg con maxima calidad y minimo espacio posible`
`19:41.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`te los mete en /tmp/shots`
`19:42.08`	`Enlighted`	`oka, thx`
`19:47.14`	`reliver`	`Thanatermesis tienes un endereço email publico ?`
`19:47.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`publico... privado ?`
`19:48.26`	`reliver`	`privado esta bien, so que aqui no es completamente privado, si ;?)`
`19:49.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`quiero decir... para mandar algun mail de algo.. no para ML ni nada, no ?`
`19:49.52`	`reliver`	`exato :-)`
`19:50.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`asi sirve ?`
`19:50.35`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: 404`
`19:50.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh`
`19:50.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`dcc HandyAndE ?`
`19:50.54`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: but entangle manages icons for engage?...?`
`19:50.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im not are in my system :)`
`19:51.10`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: what CPU you on?`
`19:51.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`not exactly HandyAndE , I have need to modify the source code for the standalone version`
`19:51.19`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: no`
`19:51.24`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: it uses the same config...`
`19:51.26`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, Athlon XP 2400`
`19:51.30`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: ah...`
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`19:51.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`the icons are located in .engage/icons and .engage/order/.order`
`19:51.34`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`19:51.35`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: will look into it`
`19:51.43`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: what???`
`19:51.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, I have packaged 2 totally separated pacakges, engage-module and engage`
`19:51.49`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: .e/e/applications/engage/`
`19:51.56`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: ick`
`19:51.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`works diferently, and uses a diferent source`
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`19:52.30`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, its odd, because when the bar is "idle" (even if you stopped the cursor on a icon, and it's zoomed), CPU usage returns to normal`
`19:52.56`	`Enlighted`	`only when the bar is animating (zooming icons), the CPU use ups a lot`
`19:53.06`	`Elive_user2`	`gfgfggfgfgfk`
`19:53.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, I need'ed to select this way because the standalone not continue the develop... and Im looking a triangle... ;) with this way (diferent address for the icons), the problem are solved for standalone`
`19:55.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, in part this is normal, engage works with the enlightenemnet libs, and are very powered, makes a big lot of work in a minimum cpu consomation in real-time... render images and resize in realtime with aliasing ;)`
`19:55.40`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, a mi hablame en cristiano`
`19:55.42`	`Enlighted`	`XDD`
`19:55.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`19:55.58`	`Enlighted`	`vale, ya lo he pillao`
`19:56.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`19:56.15`	`Enlighted`	`lo comprnedo xD, pero solo k me ha sorprendido tal salto bestia de consumo de CPU`
`19:56.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, si engage estuviera escrito en otras librerias te aseguro que la cantidad de CPU seria mucho mas bestia.. suponiendo que hcieran los mismo que hace con estas ;)`
`19:57.17`	`Enlighted`	`jejeje`
`19:57.26`	`Enlighted`	`da gusto ver lo optimizado que estan las E`
`19:57.28`	`Enlighted`	`^^`
`19:57.30`	`HandyAndE`	`dinner`
`19:57.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`si ;)`
`19:57.41`	`Enlighted`	`creo k voy a donarles dinero y todo`
`19:57.49`	`Enlighted`	`me esta gustando demasiado el trabajo k hacen`
`19:58.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`alli alli, comentaselo a HandyAndE ;)`
`19:58.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`es un trabajo increible si, no te lo niego`
`19:58.28`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, im thinking of donating money to E ^^`
`19:58.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, ya has probado todos los programas que tienes en e16 en el menu EFL ?`
`19:58.38`	`Enlighted`	`too much good work for not doing so`
`19:58.41`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`19:58.47`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, y dale`
`19:58.51`	`Enlighted`	`que uso E17!`
`19:58.55`	`Enlighted`	`XDD`
`19:59.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`no importa, entra en e16 y mira los programas que hay en ese menu, por desgracia solo estan alli, alli podras ver un poco el poder de estas libs...`
`19:59.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`o no`
`19:59.37`	`Enlighted`	`o_O`
`19:59.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`simplemente lanza las cosas que hay en ese menu ;)`
`19:59.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`scite .e16/menus/efl.menu`
`20:00.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`uno curioso.. prueba "eem" ;)`
`20:01.01`	`Enlighted`	`spera, que estoy probando ya un mazo de cosas`
`20:01.02`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:01.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`como se nota que el mundo desconoce el video que tengo que hacer todavia... xD`
`20:02.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que voy a migrar rapido el sistema para poder empezar con el montaje de ese video lo antes posible :)`
`20:02.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`~reboot`
`20:02.34`	`apt`	`Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$?`
`20:02.40`	`Anarien`	`esoooooo,ahora que dices.. yo aun no le encuentro el sentido a eem XD`
`20:02.50`	`Anarien`	`es un calibrador de algo?`
`20:03.18`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`20:03.26`	`Anarien`	`vaya,se fué :'(`
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`20:08.27`	`dererk`	`* Elive_user2 is now known as Thanatermesis <------------ xDDD`
`20:09.22`	`Enlighted`	`ostras`
`20:09.32`	`Enlighted`	`estoy descubriendo las delicias de los wallpapers animados`
`20:09.37`	`Enlighted`	`...y me encantan!`
`20:09.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`jajaja`
`20:09.38`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:09.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, es el poder de las librerias de EFL ;)`
`20:10.09`	`Enlighted`	`con esas librerias me esta entrando vocacion de bibliotecario`
`20:10.10`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:10.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`20:10.26`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, sabes k no te puedo responder`
`20:10.32`	`Enlighted`	`al privado`
`20:10.34`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:10.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah xD`
`20:10.48`	`Enlighted`	`pues diria que lo pusieras`
`20:10.55`	`Enlighted`	`si es gratis`
`20:10.56`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:11.00`	`Enlighted`	`algo caerá...`
`20:11.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`y sabes como funciona? no se como tengo que hacer para crearme una cuenta`
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`20:12.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`root@elive[/home/elive/Devices]$ mkfs.reiser /dev/hda6`
`20:12.48`	`Enlighted`	`tu tas loco`
`20:12.49`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:13.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`ATTENTION: YOU SHOULD REBOOT AFTER FDISK!`
`20:13.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:13.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Continue (y/n):y`
`20:13.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Initializing journal - 0%....20%....40%....60%....80%....100%`
`20:13.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Syncing..ok`
`20:13.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`ReiserFS is successfully created on /dev/hda6.`
`20:13.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`root@elive[/home/elive/Devices]$`
`20:13.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`:o`
`20:13.57`	`Enlighted`	`bueno`
`20:14.07`	`Enlighted`	`toca ahora cambiar el tema del Evidence`
`20:14.10`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:14.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya se hará... no te gusta el theme por defecto ? ;)`
`20:14.42`	`Enlighted`	`si, pero por probar cosas nuevas`
`20:14.45`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:14.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`root@elive[/home/elive/Devices]$ cp -Rp hdb7/* hda6/`
`20:15.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, has probado eem ?`
`20:15.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`lanzalo ;)`
`20:16.28`	`Enlighted`	`que es eso?`
`20:16.31`	`Enlighted`	`esta en E17?`
`20:16.32`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:16.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`un juguete`
`20:16.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, esta en los menus de e16`
`20:16.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero lo puedes lanzar desde una terminal`
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`20:17.20`	`Enlighted`	`ya lo he hecho`
`20:17.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`es un juguete que simula como seria un pequeño programa para PDA's o telefonos mobiles escritos en las librerias de enlightenment (funciona y probado sobre PDA's)`
`20:17.27`	`Enlighted`	`er....ejem...k hace? XD`
`20:17.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`dale al "enter"`
`20:17.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`y cambia el wallpaper del programa ;)`
`20:18.01`	`Enlighted`	`coño`
`20:18.03`	`Enlighted`	`pos no sta mal`
`20:18.04`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:18.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`settings -> wallpaper`
`20:18.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`elige el penultimo wallpaper ;)`
`20:18.51`	`Enlighted`	`es el k mas mola`
`20:18.52`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:19.36`	`Enlighted`	`ta wapo`
`20:19.44`	`Enlighted`	`y eso se puede implementar? ocupa mucho cpu?`
`20:20.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`si no utiliza hardware de aceleracion GL pues consumirá por CPU, esta claro`
`20:20.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo puedes compilar en una ipod ;)`
`20:20.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`has visto "eclair" y "envision" ?`
`20:21.07`	`felix`	`envision?`
`20:21.11`	`felix`	`qu'e es envision?`
`20:21.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`un programa para reproducir video`
`20:21.25`	`felix`	`acabo de volar el repositorio de debianitas de la pc de mi trabajo :-(`
`20:21.30`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: mira vos`
`20:21.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`es un poco viejo, asi que efectos opticos pocos... pero no esta mal`
`20:21.38`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: no more e17 at work`
`20:21.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, usa el repo del topic, el otro esta muerto xD`
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`20:22.08`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: Ah... igual renuncio a mi trabajo`
`20:22.15`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, rectifico`
`20:22.18`	`felix`	`ADios Elive_user2 , que te vaya bien`
`20:22.20`	`Enlighted`	`me quedo con el tema actual`
`20:22.24`	`Enlighted`	`del evidence`
`20:22.32`	`Enlighted`	`solo ver el icono del readme me ha convencido`
`20:22.35`	`Enlighted`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`20:22.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`20:22.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`es el theme de elive ;)`
`20:23.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, renuncias al trabajo ?`
`20:23.13`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: si`
`20:23.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`y eso ?`
`20:23.28`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: consegui un trabajo donde me pagan el doble`
`20:23.36`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: pero tengo que programar en C++ para Windows`
`20:23.41`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: en M$ VC++`
`20:23.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`:SSSSSSSs`
`20:24.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre, te iba a decir que si te pagan el doble...`
`20:24.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero cuando has dicho la palabra windows... xD`
`20:24.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`sabes lo que eso conlleva no felix ?`
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`20:24.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`muchas enfermedades humanas de nuestros tiempos, por ejemplo stress, jackeca, depresiones etc...`
`20:30.01`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, E17 requires a theme option called "Save current theme as a new one"`
`20:30.07`	`Enlighted`	`or something similar :(`
`20:30.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`20:30.22`	`Enlighted`	`(or it's present and I didn't see it?)`
`20:30.42`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, es k no puedo salvar lo que he salvado de mi tema`
`20:30.49`	`Enlighted`	`*modificado`
`20:30.53`	`Enlighted`	`xD`
`20:30.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, cada vez que reinicias e17 te sale todo de nuevo como si no lo hubieras configurado ?`
`20:30.59`	`Enlighted`	`weno, o no se como hacerlo`
`20:31.02`	`Enlighted`	`si`
`20:31.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh`
`20:31.09`	`Enlighted`	`pero me refiero a que si quiero cambair de tema ahora`
`20:31.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`me puedes dar un acceso ssh ?`
`20:31.17`	`Enlighted`	`se me borrará todo lo k he configurado`
`20:31.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`o sino, esperate a que termine mi sistema nuevo y lo miro yo mismo`
`20:31.24`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, o_O`
`20:31.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso suena a un problema con la conf de e17 predeterminada...`
`20:31.33`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, nen, eso es como pedirme las llaves de casa XDD`
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`20:31.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`20:31.40`	`Enlighted`	`weno, dime como`
`20:31.42`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`20:31.45`	`Enlighted`	`I trust you`
`20:31.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`ala pues, te toca esperar, luego me lo recuerdas y lo miro ;)`
`20:31.55`	`felix`	`Enlighted: no te pidio la password de root`
`20:32.05`	`Enlighted`	`felix, para k??`
`20:32.10`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, oka`
`20:32.16`	`felix`	`Enlighted: relee`
`20:32.24`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, pero como me quites la cfg actual k tengo ahora por accidente te mato`
`20:32.24`	`felix`	`Enlighted: NO te pidio la password de root`
`20:32.32`	`Enlighted`	`me ha costado HORAS tenerlo como lo quiero`
`20:32.34`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:32.45`	`Enlighted`	`felix, relee: para k??`
`20:32.50`	`felix`	`ajjj`
`20:33.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`20:33.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, haz una cosa pues`
`20:34.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`tar -zcf e-conf-sec.tgz .e`
`20:34.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`lanza eso desde tu home`
`20:34.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`y tendras una copia de seguridad`
`20:34.18`	`Enlighted`	`ya se lo k dices, pero..`
`20:34.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`luego borra el .e ENTERO`
`20:34.26`	`Enlighted`	`se salvara la cfg seguro?`
`20:34.31`	`Enlighted`	`me da miedo probarlo`
`20:34.33`	`Enlighted`	`:_ XD`
`20:34.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`y si todo sale como imagino, te deberia de guardar la conf a partir de alli`
`20:34.43`	`felix`	`jeje`
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`20:34.48`	`Enlighted`	`weno, lo probare mañana`
`20:34.49`	`felix`	`y si no sale como imaginas?`
`20:34.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, guarda la copia de seguridad y abres el fichero con "mc" a ver si va bien ;)`
`20:34.59`	`Enlighted`	`dejame disfrutar un poco de mi entorno actual, antes de cargarmelo`
`20:35.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix, entonces me escondo xD`
`20:35.03`	`felix`	`jejejeje`
`20:35.07`	`Enlighted`	`XDD`
`20:35.10`	`felix`	`nos vamos a #elive-furtivos`
`20:35.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, tienes la copia de seguridad, la descomprimes y lo tienes como antes ;)`
`20:35.12`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, mas te vale hacerlo :DD`
`20:35.22`	`Enlighted`	`jijiji, como no vaya..`
`20:35.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, si es tan buena... a que esperas para mandar un shot ? ;)`
`20:35.33`	`Enlighted`	`estoy en ello`
`20:35.46`	`Enlighted`	`lo malo es k no me deja tomar el shot cuando tengo abierto el menu del E17`
`20:36.02`	`Enlighted`	`o cuando estan los iconos zoomeados`
`20:36.09`	`Enlighted`	`k es cuando el screen quedaria mejor`
`20:36.15`	`Enlighted`	`:(`
`20:37.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`claro que si`
`20:37.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`sleep 6 && capturar nombre`
`20:37.22`	`Enlighted`	`molas xD`
`20:37.26`	`Enlighted`	`ahora lo hago`
`20:40.41`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/503/25kw.jpg`
`20:40.44`	`Enlighted`	`k tal?`
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`20:41.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`a ver`
`20:42.04`	`Enlighted`	`guapa, o guapa?`
`20:42.05`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:42.34`	`Anarien`	`estoy compilando el warzone a ver que tal...`
`20:43.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`ta wapa si`
`20:43.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, no hablabamos de ti`
`20:43.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`20:43.19`	`Enlighted`	`jaja`
`20:43.23`	`Enlighted`	`que malo eres`
`20:43.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`es coña, es que justo dice eso y hablas tu xDDDDDD`
`20:43.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`na, Anarien sabe que es muy guapa ;)`
`20:43.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`no soy malo, estaba de coña xD`
`20:47.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, vuelvo al nuevo sistema Elive a ver si arranca a la primera pero va a ser que no... xD`
`20:47.21`	`Anarien`	`:)`
`20:47.23`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: yay, donate money :)`
`20:47.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo que configurar aun todo como estaba antes`
`20:47.33`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: what would "save current theme as new" do?`
`20:48.04`	`Enlighted`	`HandyAndE, save your selected modules, wallpaper, modules configuration...`
`20:48.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`HandyAndE, dont worry for the "save current theme"... this is posible a problem with the default conf of elive.. I need to look this in few minutes`
`20:48.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, nada, ya lo pruebo yo y te digo algo ;)`
`20:48.27`	`Enlighted`	`yes, via SSH`
`20:48.35`	`Enlighted`	`si me rompes la cfg...`
`20:48.35`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:48.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`no no, in my machine, Im recent migration Debian -> Elive ;)`
`20:49.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`20:49.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`~reboot`
`20:49.05`	`apt`	`Not on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$?`
`20:49.12`	`HandyAndE`	`Enlighted: oh I see - sounds like "remember"`
`20:50.42`	`felix`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:50.46`	`felix`	`2 days...`
`20:50.48`	`felix`	`:-/`
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`20:50.57`	`felix`	`maybe i'm using windows :)`
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`20:51.26`	`Elive_user2`	`yipiiiiiiii`
`20:51.29`	`samuel`	`what terminal can i use to get transparency in e?`
`20:51.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel, e17 not have real transparence for this moments`
`20:52.28`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, and won't have until Composite becomes more stable`
`20:52.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, hi`
`20:52.30`	`apt`	`hello, thanatermesis`
`20:52.32`	`Enlighted`	`:( :)`
`20:52.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, hi`
`20:53.00`	`apt`	`hello, thanatermesis`
`20:53.17`	`Anarien`	`jo, me da fallo el make y ya no se que mas hacerle`
`20:53.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, bah, composite sucks your cpu`
`20:53.29`	`Enlighted`	`yap, es la pena`
`20:53.31`	`Enlighted`	`:(`
`20:53.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, pastea el error en www.pastebin.com`
`20:53.48`	`Enlighted`	`pq transparencias reales es lo unico que le hace falta al E17 para ser un Dios`
`20:53.50`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:54.03`	`Anarien`	`me dice que no tengo soporte de audio cd ni mp3 support`
`20:54.07`	`felix`	`samuel: Eterm`
`20:54.11`	`Anarien`	`voy`
`20:54.30`	`Elive_user`	`can someone quickly tell me where I can change my keyboard once I have elive installed?`
`20:54.32`	`felix`	`samuel: Of course is not "real" transparency.`
`20:55.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, que intentas compilar ?`
`20:55.01`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: pero todo el make? XD`
`20:55.10`	`Anarien`	`es un poco largo eh!`
`20:55.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, solo donde empiezan los errores, que es la parte mas importante`
`20:55.19`	`Anarien`	`vale`
`20:55.36`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, acabo de volver ...`
`20:55.39`	`sinplomo`	`ve al canal :)`
`20:56.10`	`sinplomo`	`voy a por un cafe y vuelvo`
`20:56.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, dime si funciona mi pagina`
`20:56.44`	`sinplomo`	`la de tunning ?`
`20:56.52`	`Elive_user`	`ok thanks`
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`20:56.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, la mia personal`
`20:58.01`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, si va`
`20:58.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto :)`
`20:58.11`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, porque en el theme ese no oido nada :S`
`20:58.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, acabo de borrar mi sistema y estoy en una Elive instalada :D`
`20:58.30`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`20:58.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, porque necesitas haber lanzado "esd"`
`20:58.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`desde tu user`
`20:58.44`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, vas a poner la foto de mi escritorio en la web? XD`
`20:58.54`	`Enlighted`	`es digno de ponerse ^^`
`20:59.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, en el futuro se hara una seccion de shots de la gente ;)`
`20:59.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`(no oficiales de elive=9`
`20:59.15`	`Anarien`	`http://pastebin.com/352256`
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`20:59.51`	`Enlighted`	`jejeje`
`20:59.53`	`Enlighted`	`mola`
`21:01.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, basicamente tienes que instalar esas 2 dependencias que te dice que no tiene`
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`21:01.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`a saber que son porque esta tan detallado.. xD`
`21:01.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`buca informacion en el README, tendria que poner algo`
`21:01.14`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: pues ese es el problema, que no doy con ellas... XD`
`21:02.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, pues lo llevas claro xD en la pagina no pone nada ?`
`21:02.10`	`Anarien`	`voy a repasar también el configure, pero vamos que ese... lo ha echo del tirón, no he visto ningu error`
`21:02.27`	`samuel`	`Thanatermesis, felix, ive been trying and trying to get eterm to have transparency, im using an animated wallpaper, and i cant get it to do that? is it because of the wallpaper?`
`21:02.36`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: en eso estoy XD`
`21:03.07`	`Enlighted`	`bueeeeno`
`21:03.18`	`Enlighted`	`me vuelvo a mi trabajo personal de spicologia`
`21:03.19`	`Anarien`	`voy a mirar foros tambien de la page haber si alguien ha posteado o hay alguna documentacion`
`21:03.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel, e17 not have real transparence for this moments`
`21:03.23`	`Enlighted`	`a mediar entre dos hermanos`
`21:03.25`	`Enlighted`	`:(`
`21:03.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, ya empezamos de nuevo? dale dos tortas a los 2 y que se dejen de tonterias xD`
`21:03.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, que intentas compilar ?`
`21:03.54`	`Anarien`	`bueno... pues que yo sigo con lo mio eh!, luego os veo`
`21:04.00`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: un juego`
`21:04.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, claro, repasa el codigo fuente del ./configure a ver que intenta buscar ;)`
`21:04.18`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, es mas dificil que eso xD`
`21:04.25`	`samuel`	`Thanatermesis, real as in real, but shouldnt it show the background image?`
`21:04.29`	`Anarien`	`warzone2100`
`21:05.09`	`Anarien`	`como consiga compilarlo, os voy a retar y a meteros paliza!! XD`
`21:05.22`	`Anarien`	`bueno... hasta luego y gracias`
`21:05.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel, with Eterm, try Esetroot`
`21:05.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`Esetroot -s image.png`
`21:05.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`for use the image for the bg of Eterms`
`21:06.12`	`samuel`	`Thanatermesis, thanks`
`21:06.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, no prefieres darnos una paliza en armagetron? xD`
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`21:13.27`	`sinplomo`	`posi que tardan las X en arrancar e`
`21:13.28`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
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`21:15.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`wow !`
`21:15.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya tengo todas las configuraciones como antes, para todos los usuarios`
`21:15.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`que facil que son las cosas con un poco de bash`
`21:15.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
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`21:15.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, hi`
`21:15.26`	`apt`	`hello, thanatermesis`
`21:15.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, !!!`
`21:15.28`	`apt`	`\"Multiple exclamation marks,\" he went on, shaking his head, \"are a sure sign of a diseased mind.\" - Terry Pratchett, Eric`
`21:15.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Welcome to Elive world Elive_user`
`21:15.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:15.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`21:15.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, hi`
`21:15.40`	`apt`	`hello, thanatermesis`
`21:15.42`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, al canal`
`21:15.44`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`21:16.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`espera, que voy a hacer un par de retoques al theme de xchat ;)`
`21:16.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer que feo que es el darkone por defecto xD`
`21:16.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`hasta ahora`
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`21:17.01`	`bubs`	`mmmm enlightenment`
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`21:21.08`	`samuel`	`ok, sorry to be so bothersome, i really do use google! is there any way to get a list of all available modules? loaded or unloaded? enlightenment_remote -module-list only shows the ones currently loaded`
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`21:24.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt hi`
`21:24.09`	`apt`	`hello, thanatermesis`
`21:24.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto`
`21:24.28`	`sinplomo`	`samuel, all modules are included on elive`
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`21:25.10`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, yeah, but how do i know what ones are on there to enable and try them out`
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`21:29.39`	`Elive_user2`	`mmmh, que raro`
`21:29.57`	`Elive_user2`	`bah`
`21:30.12`	`Elive_user2`	`root@elive[/home/asdf]$ rm -r .gtk*`
`21:30.13`	`Elive_user2`	`:D`
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`21:30.37`	`Elive_user2`	`mucho mejor :)`
`21:31.08`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, al canal pliz`
`21:31.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`que te esperes`
`21:31.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`que estoy configurando todo el sistema nuevo`
`21:31.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:31.22`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, XDD`
`21:31.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`por fin tengo un jodido sistema limpio y decenteeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!`
`21:31.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, en casa del herrero... se permitió un cuchillo de acero ;)`
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`21:32.35`	`St-`	`hi`
`21:32.35`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, te doy 3 meses`
`21:32.41`	`sinplomo`	`y ya estara hecho un asco`
`21:32.42`	`St-`	`help pls...`
`21:32.43`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`21:32.49`	`St-`	`autoinstall=gui dont start ;\|`
`21:33.32`	`St-`	`can u help me ?`
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`21:34.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`St-, not use the autoinstall mode`
`21:34.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`use the normal mode`
`21:34.10`	`St-`	`why ?`
`21:34.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`launch the installer from the panel of control ;)`
`21:34.47`	`St-`	`ok, but it's bug ? autoinstall=gui ?`
`21:35.16`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, son iguales....los polos iguales siempre se oponen`
`21:35.18`	`Enlighted`	`verdad?`
`21:35.28`	`Enlighted`	`pues eso ha pasado...que esos dos son EXACTAMENTE IGUALES`
`21:35.30`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`21:35.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`St-, its a option, but no any person have tested this... bug? posible to consider this a bug, yes`
`21:35.44`	`Enlighted`	`ainsh...que vida..`
`21:36.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, xDD`
`21:36.06`	`St-`	`however, it compliments for the optimal job!! you are BEST, W ELIVE`
`21:36.31`	`Enlighted`	`St-, really yeah`
`21:36.44`	`St-`	`;) sorry 4 my bad eng, i'm italian ;)`
`21:37.06`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, por cierto, genial eso de pasar una ventana a ventana activa solo teniendo el puntero del raton encima de ella`
`21:37.09`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`21:37.19`	`sinplomo`	`Enlighted, lo del foco`
`21:37.21`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`21:37.22`	`sinplomo`	`si`
`21:37.24`	`sinplomo`	`no ta mal`
`21:37.26`	`Enlighted`	`foco se llama?`
`21:37.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, si bueno, eso va a gustos, hay mucha gente que no les gusta xD`
`21:37.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted, has visto lo lindo que es "alt-tab" ? xD`
`21:37.50`	`Enlighted`	`pos a mi me encanta xD`
`21:38.12`	`Enlighted`	`muy majo, si seño`
`21:38.15`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`21:38.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahora vengo`
`21:38.32`	`sinplomo`	`Enlighted, si`
`21:38.37`	`sinplomo`	`dar foco a un ventana :)`
`21:38.43`	`sinplomo`	`a mi no me gusta`
`21:38.46`	`sinplomo`	`xP`
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`21:40.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`alguien conoce una pagina de themes de gkt ?`
`21:40.26`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, gnome-look.org`
`21:40.27`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
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`21:40.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`veamos...`
`21:40.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`busco uno oscuro`
`21:40.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`DAAARK!`
`21:41.30`	`sinplomo`	`hum ...`
`21:41.33`	`sinplomo`	`one moment`
`21:41.47`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, busca el Theme Alien :)`
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`21:42.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`vuelvo`
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`21:43.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto !`
`21:43.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`solo que.. en esta version de xchat me carga los canales por orden alfabetico :SSS`
`21:43.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`que mierda`
`21:43.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`no me gusta, es complicado`
`21:43.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`arrrgh, no me acostumbraré`
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`21:44.24`	`Anarien`	`ei ei!, lo he conseguido instalar`
`21:44.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`21:45.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`empecemos por cambiar el wallpaper...`
`21:45.39`	`Anarien`	`pero ahora me da un fallo de glx xD`
`21:45.44`	`sinplomo`	`xDDD`
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`21:46.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`yipiiiiiiiii`
`21:46.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya los tengo como antes :D`
`21:46.54`	`Anarien`	`tina@elive[~]$ warzone`
`21:46.54`	`Anarien`	`Warning: Using colour depth of 16 instead of 24.`
`21:47.04`	`Anarien`	`Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed (Couldn't find matching GLX visual)`
`21:47.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`21:47.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`que gusto que da volver a estar con su escritorio de antes :D`
`21:49.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer dererk como me lias... xD`
`21:50.35`	`dererk`	`nas Anarien`
`21:50.39`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Porque???`
`21:50.39`	`dererk`	`¿?`
`21:50.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`<aitiba69> me ha dicho dererk k tu sabes algo de enlightenment no?`
`21:50.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Thanatermesis> si, algo`
`21:50.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:50.59`	`Anarien`	`jur,lo cambo en XF86Config-4 y me dice que estoy en 16 de colores, o sea... pasa de mi! xD`
`21:51.05`	`Anarien`	`hola dererk :)`
`21:51.06`	`dererk`	`Thanatermesis, Uhhh, perdon... me olvidaba`
`21:51.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`dererk, porque ahora mismo acabo de borrar todo mi sistema y me estoy terminando de instalar Elive ;)`
`21:51.23`	`Anarien`	`dererk: ayudame!! mei dei mei dei`
`21:54.11`	`Anarien`	`ummmm, en la --> Section "Screen" , tengo DefaultColorDepth 24,por que me sigue diciendo que estoy en 16 al lanzar el juego?`
`21:54.46`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: ya te vale!!, aun no te habias instalado la elive...!!?`
`21:54.56`	`Anarien`	`al paredón!! XD`
`21:55.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, por necesidad de velocidad de trabajo tenia que permanecer en mi sistema`
`21:55.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`de echo fui el primero en instalarmela`
`21:55.39`	`Anarien`	`bueno voy a cenar, ya lo miraré luego`
`21:55.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`borrando todo mi /`
`21:55.49`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: excusas! xD`
`21:55.52`	`Anarien`	`:)`
`21:55.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero luego tuve que volver a meter el viejo porque trabajaba mas rapido con todo lo que tenia`
`21:56.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`:P`
`21:56.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`xd`
`21:56.29`	`Anarien`	`bueno a cenar, ñam!`
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`22:06.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`esto ya tiene cada vez mejor pinta :)`
`22:07.20`	`sinplomo`	`bueno`
`22:07.22`	`sinplomo`	`cool`
`22:07.37`	`sinplomo`	`theme de DarkOne con sonidos rulando`
`22:07.43`	`sinplomo`	`esto es mejor que un orgasmo`
`22:08.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`22:08.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`verdad ? ;)`
`22:08.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`venga, yo seré tu beta-tester, no me pondré el mio original (ese) sino que usare tu modificación y te reportaré posibles bugs ;)`
`22:08.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, ves el problema de fuentes que te dije antes ?`
`22:09.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`a que son mucho mas bonitas esas fuentes de todas formas que el original ?`
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`22:10.00`	`Malolillo`	`hola`
`22:10.05`	`Malolillo`	`alguien ?`
`22:10.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`alguien`
`22:10.29`	`Malolillo`	`:D`
`22:10.33`	`Malolillo`	`hola`
`22:11.03`	`Malolillo`	`me hace falta ayuda para configurar el menu.lst del Grub`
`22:11.35`	`Malolillo`	`para poder entrar en otra particion con debian`
`22:11.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`sigue el ejemplo de la particion de elive y configuralo para debian`
`22:12.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero ten en cuenta que los numeros van un numero mas hacia atras`
`22:12.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`osea, (hd0,0) seria hda1`
`22:12.23`	`Malolillo`	`si, eso creo que lo tengo bien`
`22:12.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`hd1,2 seria hdb3`
`22:12.28`	`Malolillo`	`pero el kernel no se como va`
`22:14.12`	`Malolillo`	`title Debian Sarge GNU/Linux`
`22:14.13`	`Malolillo`	`# kernel path-to-kernel root=rootdevice kernelarguments`
`22:14.13`	`Malolillo`	`root (hd0,5)`
`22:14.13`	`Malolillo`	`kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11 root=/dev/hda6 vga=0x317 noapic acpi=on apm=power-off`
`22:14.23`	`Malolillo`	`esta es la linea que quiero añadir`
`22:14.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`diciendole el lugar que tiene que buscar el kernel como si estuvieras en / de tu debian`
`22:14.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11 <-- tienes que cambiar ese numero por el que usa tu debian`
`22:15.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`mira como se llama el que usa y fuera`
`22:15.07`	`Malolillo`	`lo miro`
`22:15.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`monta la particion de tu debian y sigue el ejemplo del menu.lst que tienes en esa particion, sera mas facil ;)`
`22:16.14`	`Malolillo`	`esque el menu.lst del debian lo tenia en una particion al principio del disco`
`22:16.23`	`Malolillo`	`vamos, que lo ha sobreescrito`
`22:18.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, esos archivos estan en cada una de tus particiones, pero el grub esta en el MBR que es lo que se lanza y llama a estos archivos`
`22:18.57`	`Malolillo`	`yo instale el /boot en esa particion`
`22:20.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues entonces vamos mal`
`22:20.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`aparte el kernel de debian ya lo has borrado`
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`22:21.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque se encuentra en /boor`
`22:21.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:21.28`	`Malolillo`	`:(`
`22:21.42`	`Malolillo`	`no hay manera de reinstalarlo?`
`22:22.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`no es tan facil, porque se reinstalaria en el mismo /boot que ahora es donde instalaste elive...`
`22:22.29`	`Malolillo`	`valla, entonces voy a tener que dejar de utilizar la particion esta para el /boot`
`22:22.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`aparte tienes que entrar en entornos chroots y montarlos con el -o dev y toda la pesca para poder hacerlo sin necesidad de arrancar el sistema`
`22:22.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`todo un jaleo vaya`
`22:22.44`	`Malolillo`	`pues si`
`22:22.58`	`Malolillo`	`na, a volver a instalar y configurar la Debian :P`
`22:23.09`	`Malolillo`	`weno, ya mañana u otro dia empiezo`
`22:23.15`	`Malolillo`	`gracias por todo`
`22:23.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`es una forma... depende de la persona puede ser mas rapida o mas lenta`
`22:23.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`de todas formas, elive es una debian, eh?`
`22:23.29`	`Malolillo`	`ya ya`
`22:23.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`te podrias ahorrar una particion de mas`
`22:24.00`	`Malolillo`	`no me encuentro comodo sin las barras`
`22:24.07`	`Malolillo`	`se pueden poner?`
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`22:24.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`que barras ?`
`22:25.01`	`Malolillo`	`las de la hora, los porgramas que hay abiertos ....`
`22:25.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`no acabo de ver bien lo que quieres decir`
`22:25.20`	`Malolillo`	`para pasar de un programa a otro me cuesta buscarlo`
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`22:25.28`	`Anarien`	`respes`
`22:25.35`	`Malolillo`	`abajo o arriba del escritorio`
`22:25.52`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: se refiere a la barra de tareas`
`22:25.56`	`Malolillo`	`eso`
`22:25.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh`
`22:26.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, enlightenment funciona de una forma diferente, a principio puede parecer dificil para el usuario porque se siente perdido, pero te aseguro que es mucho mas facil y rapido trabajar con el ;)`
`22:26.26`	`Anarien`	`pero tienes el ibar y el ibox, que vienen a ser lo mismo,`
`22:26.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`a ver, que necesitas? tener acceso a los programas minimizados ?`
`22:26.41`	`Anarien`	`bueno lo mismo no es, pero te hace el apaño`
`22:26.42`	`Malolillo`	`zi`
`22:26.59`	`Malolillo`	`cuando minimizo, no se como buscarlos`
`22:26.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`hay el "minimizador" y el "paginador", ambos cumplen perfectamente esa funcion y mucho mejor y mas accesible que otros entornos graficos`
`22:27.23`	`Anarien`	`ahora vengo voy a reiniciar esto a ver si me pilla bien la configuración de colores`
`22:27.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, e17 es muy lindo, pero por el momento te recomiendo trabajar con e16, ese si esta completo y estable, e16 tiene minimizador y paginador`
`22:27.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`sino, en e17 tambien hay un minimizador, pero tienes que activarlo`
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`22:28.13`	`Malolillo`	`estoy con el e16, pero el minimizador está en el escritorio, al fondo`
`22:28.27`	`Malolillo`	`y para acceder a el tengo que minimizar todo`
`22:28.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, hablas de e17.. con Alt-Tab te aparecen... metemodulo ibox de la lista de modulos, y si no esta, tendras que activarlo`
`22:28.39`	`Malolillo`	`a menos que se pueda de otra forma`
`22:29.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`el minimizador lo tienes arriba a la izquierda no ?`
`22:29.11`	`Malolillo`	`si`
`22:29.15`	`CGA`	`i'm running Elive from live cd and I've installed some e17-themes , what do i have to do to have the possibility to chose them from the menu?`
`22:29.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, look apt`
`22:29.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt, e17-themes`
`22:29.49`	`apt`	`well, e17-themes is if you have installed any themes of e17 but not works, only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and works`
`22:29.57`	`CGA`	`i have installed them already`
`22:30.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, www.elivecd.org/tunning.html`
`22:30.27`	`CGA`	`k`
`22:30.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`Malolillo, pues con "alt-tab" puedes cargarlos de nuevo`
`22:30.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`o con el mouse, clicas sobre ellos y te aparecen`
`22:30.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero alt-tab para mi es lo mas rapido`
`22:31.03`	`Malolillo`	`oks, ahora si lo veo`
`22:31.04`	`Malolillo`	`:D`
`22:31.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`sino Malolillo lo que yo hago es tener 30 escritorios virtuales (ves que tienes 2? te puedes poner los que quieras), yo no tengo nada minimizado, todo abierto en diferentes escritorios`
`22:31.20`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, that link has nothing about themes`
`22:31.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, look in the "upgrade" section`
`22:31.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, describes "how" to use the installed themes`
`22:32.16`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, ok thx`
`22:32.56`	`Malolillo`	`por cierto, si le das al alt-tab y a enter, se jode la pantalla`
`22:33.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`se jode ?`
`22:33.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`que hace ?`
`22:33.18`	`Malolillo`	`sale como ampliada`
`22:33.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`22:33.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es porque has entrado en el modo zoom`
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`22:33.43`	`Malolillo`	`aa`
`22:33.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`si te pones sobre una ventana y le das a "alt-enter" entras en modo zoom ;)`
`22:33.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`pruebalo`
`22:33.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`se desactiva de la misma forma`
`22:34.17`	`Malolillo`	`oks`
`22:34.20`	`Malolillo`	`si, es asi`
`22:36.01`	`CGA`	`how can i make evidence show the invisible folders such as .e/ ?`
`22:36.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`its in .files`
`22:36.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`(from my memory)`
`22:36.30`	`CGA`	`k thx`
`22:36.54`	`CGA`	`is not there`
`22:37.12`	`CGA`	`i found it`
`22:38.49`	`Anarien`	`nanay`
`22:39.40`	`Anarien`	`ahora me dice esto --> Warning: Using colour depth of 32 instead of 24.`
`22:39.41`	`Anarien`	`ErrorBox: Couldn't open palette.bin`
`22:39.41`	`Anarien`	`ErrorBox: Couldn't load palette data`
`22:39.51`	`sinplomo`	`que aburrido estoy`
`22:39.57`	`sinplomo`	`voy a recompilar el kernel`
`22:39.58`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`22:40.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, como llevas el theme de darkone ?`
`22:40.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`estoy esperando probarlo ;)`
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`22:40.49`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, no va a ser facil lo del TTF`
`22:40.49`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis:, sinplomo : me podeis echar un vistazo al XF86Config-4?`
`22:40.57`	`sinplomo`	`estoy buscando algo para editarlo`
`22:40.58`	`Anarien`	`es que yo no le veo nada raro`
`22:40.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, que le sucede ?`
`22:41.07`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, a pastebin.com ;)`
`22:41.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, gfontview ;)`
`22:41.42`	`sinplomo`	`cual usa`
`22:41.52`	`sinplomo`	`la verdana tahoma ?`
`22:42.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`no lo recuerdo, una es de los titulos y otra para las letras de los menus`
`22:42.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo veras enseguida ;)`
`22:42.24`	`sinplomo`	`estan iguales las dos`
`22:42.25`	`CGA`	`i can't copy paste , it says that directory doesn't exist (but it is there)`
`22:42.25`	`sinplomo`	`LOL`
`22:42.46`	`sinplomo`	`que digo`
`22:42.47`	`sinplomo`	`nada nada`
`22:42.48`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`22:42.49`	`CGA`	`even cp doesn't work`
`22:42.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es i can't copy paste , it says that directory doesn't exist (but it is there)`
`22:43.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA, how to copy? with 2 evidences launched and move icon ?`
`22:43.28`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, puedo hacer que A con tilde sea A a secas`
`22:43.33`	`sinplomo`	`o quieres que tenga tilde`
`22:43.36`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`22:43.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, hombre... seria mejor usar un ttf que se vea igual pero tenga esos que faltan :/`
`22:44.49`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, sera lo mismo`
`22:44.53`	`sinplomo`	`la misma letra A`
`22:44.59`	`sinplomo`	`valdra para A normal`
`22:45.01`	`sinplomo`	`y con tilde`
`22:45.12`	`Anarien`	`http://pastebin.com/352334`
`22:45.17`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, that was smart and easy soluition -- silly me i didn't think about it`
`22:45.46`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: OK, so I will get languages set up - the template is ported to XSM`
`22:45.48`	`CGA`	`thx BTW`
`22:45.58`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: imagine a line of flags like : http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/checkout/gnome-icon-theme/16x16/stock/flag/fr.png?rev=1.2 on the page`
`22:46.07`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: tell me where you want them to go and I can mock it up :)`
`22:46.08`	`CGA`	`hi HandyAndE =) still working on it eh?`
`22:46.12`	`HandyAndE`	`CGA: no, done`
`22:46.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, me lo puedes poner en el apache? acabo de hacerme un .xchatdownloads limpio xD`
`22:46.22`	`CGA`	`HandyAndE, good stuff`
`22:46.28`	`HandyAndE`	`CGA: giving folk things to think about while I sleep ;)`
`22:46.37`	`CGA`	`HandyAndE, =)`
`22:46.38`	`HandyAndE`	`CGA: need more input from raster before it goes live`
`22:46.54`	`CGA`	`HandyAndE, i see`
`22:46.57`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, posi`
`22:46.58`	`sinplomo`	`esta mal`
`22:46.59`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`22:47.14`	`sinplomo`	`#`
`22:47.14`	`sinplomo`	`Section "Monitor"`
`22:47.14`	`sinplomo`	`#`
`22:47.14`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:47.14`	`sinplomo`	`#`
`22:47.15`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:47.17`	`sinplomo`	`hum`
`22:47.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer`
`22:47.24`	`sinplomo`	`ahi llamas al Monitor`
`22:47.28`	`sinplomo`	`Monitor0`
`22:47.34`	`sinplomo`	`deberia de ser Screen0`
`22:47.39`	`sinplomo`	`( como en el resto de la conf )`
`22:48.06`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: yo no he tocado nada, me lo ha puesto por defecto`
`22:48.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, pero no te funciona bien ?`
`22:48.38`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, ya`
`22:48.41`	`sinplomo`	`y tmb cambia`
`22:48.43`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:48.45`	`sinplomo`	`por`
`22:49.00`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:49.17`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: es por el juego que no me va bien XD`
`22:49.37`	`sinplomo`	`joder`
`22:49.41`	`sinplomo`	`mouse no`
`22:49.44`	`sinplomo`	`"Serial Mouse"`
`22:49.45`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`22:49.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, no creo que tenga realmente nada que ver xD`
`22:49.51`	`Anarien`	`me dice esto al lanzarlo --> Warning: Using colour depth of 32 instead of 24.`
`22:49.51`	`Anarien`	`ErrorBox: Couldn't open palette.bin`
`22:49.51`	`Anarien`	`ErrorBox: Couldn't load palette data`
`22:49.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, eso del monitor esta bien, mira las ultimas lineas`
`22:50.12`	`Anarien`	`a mi me va todo perfecto eh`
`22:50.18`	`sinplomo`	`ahm`
`22:50.19`	`sinplomo`	`cierto`
`22:50.21`	`Anarien`	`a ver... atenderme un momento`
`22:50.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, no creo que tenga realmente nada que ver xD`
`22:50.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`la conf de X con el juego`
`22:50.29`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, cambia la profundida a 24`
`22:50.36`	`HandyAndE`	`pr0t0cod7: mail or pm me with ideas - I go sleep`
`22:50.46`	`sinplomo`	`Warning: Using colour depth of 32 instead of 24.`
`22:50.53`	`sinplomo`	`pero es un warning`
`22:50.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, lo de la profundidad cambialo Anarien , arreglé eso para la version no pre ;)`
`22:50.54`	`sinplomo`	`asi que nada`
`22:51.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanks HandyAndE , and g'night`
`22:51.21`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: cya`
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`22:51.46`	`Anarien`	`yo lo unico que he cambiado de ese archivo a sido el DefaultColorDepth 24 <- eso`
`22:51.46`	`Fronter`	`buenas a todos`
`22:52.05`	`Anarien`	`que me ponia 16, del resto... no he tocado nada`
`22:52.17`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, issam.no-ip.org/fuente.png`
`22:52.33`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, http://issam.no-ip.org/fuente.png`
`22:52.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, mejor ;)`
`22:52.46`	`sinplomo`	`fijate en el curro que queda`
`22:52.46`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`22:52.55`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: no no el DefaultColorDepth 24 lo he puesto yo XD, por defecto me ponia DefaultColorDepth 16`
`22:52.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`buenas Fronter`
`22:53.10`	`Fronter`	`una cosilla, ¿merece la pena instalarse esta distro al hd?`
`22:53.18`	`sinplomo`	`uh`
`22:53.28`	`Anarien`	`Fronter: sin duda!`
`22:53.36`	`sinplomo`	`Fronter, claro`
`22:53.47`	`Anarien`	`Fronter: no te lo pienses mas y a ello`
`22:53.59`	`Anarien`	`ya estas perdiendo el time aqui preguntando... XD`
`22:54.03`	`Anarien`	`corre!`
`22:54.10`	`Fronter`	`si el problema es que no quiero cargarme la otra particion`
`22:54.12`	`Fronter`	`:-D`
`22:54.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`Fronter, has leido la nueva descripcion de lo que es Elive ?`
`22:54.23`	`Anarien`	`y por que te la tienes que cargar?`
`22:54.33`	`Fronter`	`no Thana, no lo he leido`
`22:54.43`	`Anarien`	`redimensionala y dale espacio a las 2`
`22:54.53`	`Fronter`	`si tengo espacio libre`
`22:54.59`	`Anarien`	`entonces?`
`22:55.12`	`Fronter`	`y se que tengo que haccer una de swap de la mitad de ram que tengo`
`22:55.20`	`Fronter`	`mas o menos`
`22:55.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`Fronter, si no entiendes bien ingles... mira esta traduccion "casera" de parte de google (ultima seccion): http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=en%7Ces&u=http://elivecd.org/&prev=/language_tools`
`22:55.46`	`sinplomo`	`Fronter, la mitad no el doble`
`22:55.47`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`22:55.53`	`Anarien`	`bueno, yo a lo mio`
`22:55.59`	`sinplomo`	`eso eso`
`22:56.02`	`sinplomo`	`a lo tuyo`
`22:56.07`	`sinplomo`	`xDDD`
`22:56.12`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, viste la screen ?`
`22:56.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, que te parece la nueva descripcion de elive ? :)`
`22:56.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, estoy en ello`
`22:56.22`	`Fronter`	`si mi problema viene de que me instale otras dos distros`
`22:56.28`	`Fronter`	`una ubuntu y una mandriva`
`22:56.30`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: guay`
`22:56.39`	`Fronter`	`y el grub ese se fue a tomar por retambufa`
`22:56.43`	`Anarien`	`pff, Ubuntu!`
`22:57.01`	`Fronter`	`asi que desde mi xp pille el partition magic`
`22:57.05`	`Fronter`	`y las mande al carajo`
`22:57.07`	`Anarien`	`pero que leches os ha dado a todos con la ubuntu?,si eso es lo peor que hay! xD`
`22:57.15`	`Fronter`	`:-D`
`22:57.22`	`Fronter`	`ubuntu linux para humanoides`
`22:57.22`	`sinplomo`	`no hables de sistemas inoperativos aqui porfavor`
`22:57.25`	`sinplomo`	`xDDD`
`22:57.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, creo que con esa fuente hay un problema... no estoy seguro que sea libre :/`
`22:57.34`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, al carajo`
`22:57.40`	`sinplomo`	`creo que se van a enterar ?`
`22:57.41`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`22:57.42`	`Fronter`	`bueno no molesto`
`22:57.50`	`Fronter`	`me leo esto y si tengo alguna duda os pregunto`
`22:57.55`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, hay un paquete simpatico, que se llama vrms`
`22:57.55`	`Anarien`	`no para nada,no molestas`
`22:58.00`	`sinplomo`	`apetealo y ejecutalo`
`22:58.01`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`22:58.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, viene de uplink`
`22:58.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`voy a ver la source`
`22:58.30`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, pero has visto el curro que falta`
`22:58.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, por eso quizas esa fuente seria mejor poner otra`
`22:58.50`	`sinplomo`	`creo que seria mejor que por ejemplo A == A con tilde`
`22:59.06`	`sinplomo`	`te lo haria en un plis plas`
`22:59.08`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: no me lies que estoy encabezonada con que me furrule el maldito juego, con lo que me ha costado compilarlo e instalarlo... como para que ahora no pueda jugar!!, de ninguna manera! XD`
`22:59.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`sabrias dibujarla sinplomo ?`
`22:59.25`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: luego me lo miro gracias, ya he tomado ota :)`
`22:59.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, has mirado en www.apt-get.org ?`
`22:59.38`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, claro ota ota`
`22:59.40`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`22:59.50`	`Anarien`	`nota* joerrrrrr`
`22:59.58`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, te refieres a hacer una copia libre ?`
`23:00.00`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: lo cualo he mirado?`
`23:00.18`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, que juego es ?`
`23:00.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, por ejemplo ;)`
`23:00.38`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: el warzone 2100`
`23:00.40`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, suena a feo`
`23:01.04`	`sinplomo`	`tomaria mucho deuna cosa de la cual carezco ;)`
`23:01.23`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: ni idea!!, lo mas seguro que cuando funcione me canse por que no me van los tiros XD`
`23:01.46`	`Anarien`	`pero te aseguro que va a funcionar, acuerdate de lo que te dice la Anarien...`
`23:02.09`	`Fronter`	`juer con la traduccion de google , de ingles a indio`
`23:02.18`	`Anarien`	`Fronter: xDDDDDDDDD`
`23:02.49`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: que es lo que tenia que mirar en apt-get.org?`
`23:05.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, hay muchos paquetes no oficiales, quizas encuentres algo que buscas compilar ;)`
`23:05.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, entonces que recomiendas ?`
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`23:07.25`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, lo que llevo diciendo desde antes`
`23:07.32`	`sinplomo`	`A normal == A con tilde`
`23:08.14`	`Fronter`	`amos a ver, tengo hada1 primaria ntfs boot , hda3 extendida lbs, y hueco libre.. por donde empiezo?`
`23:09.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, pero.. sabrias dibujar una A con tilde ? un palito mal hecho vamos... lo digo porque yo no conozco ningun programa`
`23:09.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, en todo caso, si no hay otra manera mejor/mas_rapida si, es una buena solucion ;)`
`23:09.42`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, es que ya te digo`
`23:09.46`	`sinplomo`	`no es una open font`
`23:09.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`Fronter, lanza Elive y instalala`
`23:09.52`	`sinplomo`	`no puedo hacerle eso`
`23:09.59`	`sinplomo`	`es una TrueType`
`23:10.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah no?`
`23:10.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`que cosas`
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`23:11.35`	`mchasard`	`salut`
`23:11.43`	`Elive_user2`	`salut`
`23:11.44`	`CGA`	`good night all`
`23:12.09`	`Elive_user2`	`good night, first try of elive, looks nice so far, nice job!`
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`23:12.31`	`Fronter`	`very very bonito`
`23:12.33`	`Fronter`	`si señor`
`23:12.48`	`Fronter`	`;-D`
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`23:13.27`	`Elive_user2`	`Si, necesito configurarlo un "poco", (hey! this is a Spanish foro or English?)`
`23:14.01`	`Fronter`	`a mi me parece que Español`
`23:14.09`	`Fronter`	`pero a lo mejor es bilingüe`
`23:14.34`	`Elive_user2`	`bilingles? ok!`
`23:15.43`	`Elive_user2`	`en fin, como se le da marcha a esto?? je je, voy a jugar un poco... ya me paso mas tarde`
`23:16.03`	`Fronter`	`ale good night campeon`
`23:16.06`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, http://issam.no-ip.org/verdana.ttf`
`23:16.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, its multi-linguan channel ;)`
`23:16.09`	`Fronter`	`ta luego`
`23:16.17`	`sinplomo`	`si ves que falta algun simbolo avisa ...`
`23:17.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto sinplomo , esto ya empieza a tener mejor pinta ;)`
`23:18.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahora solo hace falta hacer lo mismo con la de los menus que quizas sea la mas importante`
`23:18.39`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, a que esta mejor :))))`
`23:18.53`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, mira lo que ha preguntao el micjack ese en #debian-es`
`23:18.54`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
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`23:20.03`	`Anarien`	`respes`
`23:20.10`	`Anarien`	`nada que no funka XD`
`23:20.25`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: como se llamaba ese programa que decias?`
`23:21.22`	`sinplomo`	`emm`
`23:21.27`	`sinplomo`	`que hcia el que ?`
`23:21.28`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:22.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:22.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`vrms`
`23:22.27`	`Anarien`	`eso que me has dicho que apetegearse! XD`
`23:22.27`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, no me habras contagiado verdad ?`
`23:22.28`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:22.35`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis vrms`
`23:22.37`	`Anarien`	`ahms oka, gracias Thanatermesis`
`23:22.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, si, aunque la verdad no recuerdo si con esta fuente habia problemas de acentos, xD es que no recuerdo ver titulos con acentos... xD`
`23:22.49`	`sinplomo`	`diosss`
`23:23.04`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, fijate la buena memoria de Thanatermesis ...`
`23:23.06`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
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`23:23.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`23:23.16`	`Anarien`	`ya veo ya... xD`
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`23:28.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`wooooooooo`
`23:28.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya me habia olvidado`
`23:28.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahora con el sistema nuevo podre montarme NFS !!!`
`23:28.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`:D`
`23:28.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/home/asdf)==--> cat /etc/fstab \| wc -l`
`23:28.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`36`
`23:28.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`a esto le llamo yo un buen fstab, si señor :)`
`23:29.47`	`sinplomo`	`NFS ?`
`23:30.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`montajes de directorios de una maquina en otra sin encriptacion`
`23:31.43`	`Anarien`	`de linux a linux, yo lo tengo en las mismas`
`23:31.57`	`Anarien`	`ei... como era para limpiar un make?`
`23:32.15`	`Anarien`	`mismas no "mias"* xD`
`23:32.25`	`Anarien`	`tengo 3 Pc's`
`23:32.44`	`Fronter`	`voy a ver si puedo limpiar un poco esto :-D ahora vuelvo`
`23:36.03`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, make clean ?`
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`23:36.28`	`Fronter`	`perdon por la pregunta estupida`
`23:36.35`	`Fronter`	`pero donde apago el ekipo`
`23:36.49`	`Fronter`	`en KDE era mas facil :-D`
`23:37.10`	`Fronter`	`O-O`
`23:37.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`cuando sales de X no hay un mensaje en amarilo ?`
`23:38.19`	`Fronter`	`no me he salido todavia del enlightment`
`23:38.29`	`Fronter`	`es por ahi por donde tengo que tirar`
`23:38.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues alli lo pone ;)`
`23:38.31`	`Fronter`	`?`
`23:38.35`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: si si gracias ya me acordé, estoy compilando de nuevo ahora que tengo soporte a esas librerias que me fallaban ,que por cierto... (eran codecs xD), al final lo he conseguido a veriguar`
`23:38.36`	`Fronter`	`joder que pardillo que soy`
`23:38.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`23:38.48`	`Enlighted`	`bueno`
`23:38.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`(si tienes que salir primero)`
`23:38.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:38.52`	`Enlighted`	`me piro casimiro`
`23:38.53`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`23:39.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`ala Enlighted , hasta mañana ;)`
`23:39.05`	`Fronter`	`ok gracias...`
`23:39.06`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis, sigue con este excelente trabajo :)`
`23:39.11`	`Enlighted`	`ta mañanaaaa`
`23:39.16`	`sinplomo`	`Fronter, sudo halt`
`23:39.17`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`23:39.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias Enlighted`
`23:39.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`ta mañana`
`23:39.26`	`Enlighted`	`;)`
`23:39.35`	`Anarien`	`pues eso... estoy compilando de nuevo no sea que me haya dejado alguna guarrada por ahi y no haya compilado bien`
`23:39.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, has conseguido poner el theme de gtk de e17 ?`
`23:40.05`	`sinplomo`	`es el que estoy usando`
`23:40.06`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:40.11`	`Anarien`	`lo mas curioso... es que el juego quiere arrancar, de hecho sale unos instantes la pantalla de entrada`
`23:40.37`	`sinplomo`	`claro`
`23:40.40`	`sinplomo`	`el deseo`
`23:40.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, y como se pone ?`
`23:40.40`	`Anarien`	`pero se pone en negro y... chof!!, al carajo`
`23:40.41`	`sinplomo`	`X`
`23:40.57`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, lo metes en $HOME/.themes`
`23:40.58`	`sinplomo`	`;)`
`23:41.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`y no se puede en /usr/share/themes ?`
`23:41.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`como el industrial ?`
`23:41.39`	`Anarien`	`ufff que sed tengo!!, mientras compila esto me voy a hacer un colacao fresquito`
`23:42.25`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, da igual`
`23:42.30`	`sinplomo`	`donde quieras :)`
`23:42.36`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: yo tengo un gtk muy bonito puesto, se ve todo azul y las barras deslizantes y demas... en fucsia XD`
`23:42.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, pues sigue sin funcionar ni aparecer`
`23:42.38`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, que mierd*`
`23:42.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh pera`
`23:42.47`	`sinplomo`	`prefiero el nesquik o como se escriba`
`23:42.50`	`Anarien`	`mierda?, lo que?`
`23:42.51`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, permisos !!!`
`23:42.55`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, el colacao`
`23:42.56`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:43.02`	`Anarien`	`sinplomo: lo has escrito bien`
`23:43.10`	`sinplomo`	`:D`
`23:43.11`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:43.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(~/.themes/gtk-2.0)==-->`
`23:43.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`estas seguro que va aqui ?`
`23:43.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`a mi no me sale en los menus`
`23:43.39`	`sinplomo`	`Anarien, pero no hay nada mejor que un te con hiberabuena >.<`
`23:43.52`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, yo lo pongo en $HOME/.themes`
`23:43.53`	`Anarien`	`a mi peque le gusta también mas el nesquik, pero yo le como el coco y le convenzo para que compremos colacao XD`
`23:44.00`	`sinplomo`	`ni gtk-2.0 ni na`
`23:44.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, pues no tira`
`23:44.12`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, permisos ?`
`23:44.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`no me sale en los menus`
`23:44.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`los permisos estan bien`
`23:44.39`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:44.44`	`sinplomo`	`Alien/ E17-GTK/ ish-dark/ ish-pink/ MoreIndustrial/`
`23:44.44`	`sinplomo`	`Ana/ etiquette/ ish-green/ ish-purple/ Serenity/`
`23:44.44`	`sinplomo`	`blue-carboon/ ish/ ish-lite/ ish-red/ Whiteplate/`
`23:44.44`	`sinplomo`	`CleanestBrushedGnome/ ish-aqua/ ish-orange/ ish-Smooth/`
`23:44.44`	`sinplomo`	`Clearlooks-graphite/ ish-blue/ ish-peach/ Milke\ 2.3/`
`23:44.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(~/.themes/gtk-2.0)==-->`
`23:44.53`	`Anarien`	`Thanatermesis: en que menus?`
`23:45.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`Anarien, en el selector de themes de gtk grafico`
`23:45.08`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, en .themes no .themes/gtk-2.0`
`23:45.26`	`Anarien`	`esos themes los gestionas con gtk-theme-switch2`
`23:45.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo, si bueno... acabara siendo lo mismo`
`23:45.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(~/.themes)==--> mv gtk-2.0/ E17-GTK`
`23:45.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya esta`
`23:46.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`sigue sin salir`
`23:46.05`	`sinplomo`	`sale ahora ?`
`23:46.08`	`sinplomo`	`joder`
`23:46.15`	`sinplomo`	`a veces no sale con orden alfabetico`
`23:46.19`	`sinplomo`	`fijate bien ..`
`23:46.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo haces con el theme-switch, no ?`
`23:46.32`	`sinplomo`	`con el 2`
`23:46.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`si si`
`23:46.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`nada`
`23:46.53`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, hum`
`23:47.01`	`sinplomo`	`quita el que tiens por defecto y haz un enlace`
`23:47.11`	`sinplomo`	`joder ... es que a mi si que me va`
`23:47.13`	`sinplomo`	`que raro`
`23:47.15`	`Anarien`	`yo tengo puesto el Xfce-stellar`
`23:47.31`	`Anarien`	`es de fondo azul`
`23:47.42`	`sinplomo`	`que feo`
`23:47.48`	`sinplomo`	`me recuerda redmond`
`23:47.49`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`23:47.49`	`Anarien`	`tu si que eres feo`
`23:47.51`	`sinplomo`	`digoo`
`23:47.53`	`sinplomo`	`:(`
`23:47.56`	`Anarien`	`XDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`23:49.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`(gtk-theme-switch2:6735): Gtk-WARNING **: Imposible encontrar el motor de estilos en module_path: «pixmap»,`
`23:50.22`	`Anarien`	`nada que ascoooooooooo`
`23:50.43`	`Anarien`	`despues de volver a compilar e instalar me sigue pasando eso`
`23:50.55`	`Anarien`	`se abre la ventana unos instanstes y chof!`
`23:51.06`	`Anarien`	`y me sigue dando el mismo error`
`23:51.10`	`Anarien`	`Warning: Using colour depth of 32 instead of 24.`
`23:51.10`	`Anarien`	`ErrorBox: Couldn't open palette.bin`
`23:51.10`	`Anarien`	`ErrorBox: Couldn't load palette data`
`23:52.49`	`*** join/#elive sinplomo (n=sinplomo@196.206.95.87)`
`23:53.35`	`*** join/#elive Thanatermesis (n=Elive@unaffiliated/thanatermesis)`
`23:53.50`	`sinplomo`	`xDDDDDDDDD`
`23:54.25`	`*** join/#elive Thanatermesis (n=Elive@48.115-136-217.adsl.skynet.be)`
`23:55.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`23:55.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`parece que no acabase de funcionar bien`
`23:58.13`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, apt-get install gtk-engines-pixmap*`
`23:58.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`si ya... lo acabo de ver`
`23:58.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`¬¬`
`23:58.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque coño no es una dependencia ?`
`23:58.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya mierda`

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