irclog2html for #elive on 20050906

`00:00.10`	`felix`	`no`
`00:00.13`	`felix`	`no help`
`00:00.14`	`elive-bot`	`felix: Publicos:`
`00:00.15`	`elive-bot`	`felix: help, date <ciudad>, rae <palabra>, traducir <way> <frase>, lastseen <nick>, lasturl, show <package>`
`00:00.19`	`elive-bot`	`felix: Privados:`
`00:00.19`	`elive-bot`	`felix: startlog [canal], endlog, autorizar <nick>, denegar <nick>, join <canal>, recordar <regexp> <frase>, part <canal>`
`00:01.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`que no me des help coño!`
`00:01.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`que no me des help`
`00:01.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`que no me des help`
`00:01.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:04.46`	`dats`	`mmm`
`00:04.56`	`dats`	`ahora un amigo probar� el e17 desde ppc ...`
`00:05.14`	`dats`	`esta muy verde o van de la mano con el de x86 ?`
`00:05.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`ni idea la verdad`
`00:05.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: je vais essayer de faire un edje pour voir :/`
`00:05.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`parfait pr0t0cod7`
`00:11.09`	`dats`	`okas`
`00:15.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es regards`
`00:20.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en fr But can't you just create one event that starts all tranitions?`
`00:20.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es Then it would do them until all are complete.`
`00:20.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt !`
`00:21.00`	`apt`	`i heard ! is what my big sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not, or what dpkg uses dumbass`
`00:21.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es Then it would do them until all are complete.`
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`00:21.49`	`kowne_`	`hola de nuevo Thanatermesis`
`00:22.02`	`kowne_`	`estuve leyendo el Edjebook como me dijiste, para hacer un theme`
`00:22.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`hola kowne_`
`00:22.22`	`kowne_`	`pero no creo que tenga el nivel en C necesario como para crear uno :(`
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`00:30.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`kowne_ no es complicado, pero toma mucho tiempo y hay que asimilar bien el concepto`
`00:31.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 moi aussi je regarde, mais je ne voit pas trop..`
`00:43.16`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: tu voulais dire quoi la on comprends rien :/`
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`00:43.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`00:43.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`et ben...`
`00:44.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`de fait, le programe 2 par example`
`00:44.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`il retounre en haut le rectangle quand tu sort de lui avec le mouse`
`00:44.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais dans NIMPORTE quelle moment`
`00:44.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est la le probleme`
`00:44.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui c'est bizarre..`
`00:44.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`avant que il finit la transition, il peut passer de la position 2 a la position 1`
`00:45.01`	`pr0t0cod7`	`on le voit niquel si tu fait vite un mouse in/mouse out`
`00:45.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ça veut dire que il va se metre sur la position 2 DIRECTEMENT pour comencer la transition vers la 1`
`00:45.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu voit ce que je veut dire ?`
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`00:46.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`alors, la solution ça serait, que pour le programme 2, que il comence la transition si il sort le mouse du rectangle... de la source "rectangle" ET le "state" 2 par exmaple, c'est a dire, que ce programme il peut etre lancée SEULMENT si la transition et finit`
`00:46.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu voit ce que je veut dire pr0t0cod7 ?`
`00:51.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui c'est ce que je disais tout a lheure "bloquer" tant que la transition est pas finie`
`00:51.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui`
`00:51.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais c'est dommage que "source" accepte seulement pour le "part"`
`00:52.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es but something i still don't understand, if you have a text: default-state->text on the middle,state1-> text on the left (mouse in),state2-> text on the right (mouse out), if you do a quick mouse in/mouse out it returns to start of the state1 before going to the state2 screwing the transition`
`00:53.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`faudrait demander a raster ce quil pense pr0t0cod7 pour le: source, "part" "state";`
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`00:59.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`ils ton donnée la solution? je ne finit pas par comprendre trop bien la...`
`01:00.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es keeps us on our toes`
`01:01.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`O_o`
`01:01.33`	`pr0t0cod7`	`en fait ils ont compris`
`01:01.41`	`pr0t0cod7`	`et en effet c'est le probleme`
`01:02.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`c'est que c'est pas prevu dans le code edje`
`01:02.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`01:02.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`putain la merde de mes cui`
`01:02.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:02.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben, ça serait facile avec source, "part" "state"; non ?`
`01:02.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`faut le coder !`
`01:02.52`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt x en es "if we want to start a new transition while in the middle of an old one, just jump straight to the end of the old one and start from there"`
`01:02.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`raster hello ?`
`01:03.09`	`pr0t0cod7`	`tu vois`
`01:03.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah oui`
`01:03.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben oui, c'est ce que j'ai vu quil fait`
`01:03.51`	`pr0t0cod7`	`voila c'est raster qui l'as dit`
`01:03.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`pour ça il faut faire que il marche pas si il et pas finit`
`01:03.58`	`pr0t0cod7`	`feneant ce raster :o`
`01:04.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:04.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`raster? ou ça`
`01:04.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`allait raster! tu arrive tard! conecte-toi maintenant!`
`01:05.09`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
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`01:08.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es Speaking about updates... a lot of bugs have been fixed since the last round of snaps uploaded to freedesktop.org. It would be nice for (us) distro builders if we could have these updated.`
`01:08.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre gs !`
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`01:08.59`	`gs`	`acabo de ver el nuevo dominio`
`01:09.05`	`gs`	`xD`
`01:09.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`que te parece ?`
`01:09.10`	`gs`	`cojonudo`
`01:09.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`ta wapo, no? ;)`
`01:09.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 se encarga de mantenerlo principalmente ;)`
`01:09.43`	`gs`	`pero livecd.debianitas.net lo vais a dejar abandonado?`
`01:10.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre... yoquese`
`01:10.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:10.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`de momento la gente va alli, y se redirecciona`
`01:10.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo las copias de seguridad para dejarlo como antes`
`01:10.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`(los html principales)`
`01:10.49`	`gs`	`me gusta la nueva web`
`01:11.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`has visto www.get-e.org y www.enlightenment.org ultimamente? no te recuerda a algo ? xD`
`01:11.24`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`01:11.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`has visto la nueva release gs ?`
`01:11.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`mucho mejor no? ;)`
`01:11.58`	`gs`	`xsm`
`01:12.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`01:12.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`alors pr0t0cod7 ... il i a pas de solution, non? il faut atendre raster pour lui donner du boulot lol`
`01:13.00`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, pues no la he visto pero me han dicho que esta mucho mejor`
`01:13.33`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ouais mais a mon avis il a fait expres de le faire comme ça :/`
`01:14.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs todo el sistema cambia, ahora es algo DECENTE, con eso te lo digo todo`
`01:14.11`	`pr0t0cod7`	`enfin pour l'instant.. (plus facile)`
`01:14.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:14.42`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, basada en ke otra livecd?`
`01:14.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs morphix`
`01:14.48`	`gs`	`o la has hecho de 0? XD`
`01:14.56`	`gs`	`mm`
`01:15.08`	`gs`	`le has metido soporte sata?`
`01:15.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs de echo son 2 sistemas diferentes, uno es el livecd y el otro es el sistema elive, por eso es tan estable, porque no estan mezclados en 1 como el de knoppix, pero bueno, todo esta detallado en el "about" de la pagina`
`01:15.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, el soporte SATA es el viejo, seguramente estara para la proxima release que tenga un nuevo kernel`
`01:16.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`(soporte mas nuevo)`
`01:16.33`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, alguien mas en el desarrollo de la livecd?`
`01:16.39`	`gs`	`o sigues tu sola?`
`01:16.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`nop`
`01:16.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:16.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`sigo solo, solo que ahora se ocupan de la pagina y quizas me hagan algunos graficos..`
`01:17.19`	`gs`	`esta ya portada a ppc?`
`01:17.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`XD no`
`01:17.26`	`gs`	`porke no hay morphix para ppc no?`
`01:17.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`no hay no`
`01:17.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`y supongo que es un curro demasiado grande because la diferente arch`
`01:17.48`	`gs`	`abra ke hacer otra base`
`01:18.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, y retocar los scripts para los diferentes devices por la arch`
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`01:18.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`no se hasta que punto se hace eso complicado, pero bueno`
`01:18.49`	`gs`	`pues abria ke verlo`
`01:19.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, pero luego hay otro problema`
`01:19.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/var/www/mirror)==--> find . -iname '*deb' \| wc -l`
`01:19.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`151`
`01:19.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`que aqui no hay deb-src`
`01:19.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`01:19.42`	`gs`	`te vas a cagar`
`01:19.43`	`gs`	`xD`
`01:19.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu lo has dicho`
`01:19.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`01:20.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque para exportar esto... la voy a flipar`
`01:20.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso si pongo algun dia a hacerlo xD`
`01:20.18`	`gs`	`yo creo ke antes de 0 ke portarlo`
`01:20.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque solo imaginar el curro ya me quita las ganas xD`
`01:20.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`si... pero seria la misma cantidad de curro xD`
`01:20.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombre, para las efl no hay problema, eso es rapido...`
`01:20.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`luego estan "todos esos programas" que aparecieron de algun sitio y se les hizo un paquete`
`01:21.04`	`gs`	`yo encuanto salga E17 como me gusta a mi saco la livecd`
`01:21.07`	`gs`	`xD`
`01:21.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`ala pues ;)`
`01:21.31`	`sinplomo`	`gs, hace tiempo que no se te ve por aqui joder`
`01:21.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`estas haciendo un theme ?`
`01:21.48`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, no`
`01:21.51`	`gs`	`se sinplomo`
`01:22.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`ostias gs`
`01:22.02`	`gs`	`ocupado con otras cosas`
`01:22.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo el theme de darkone retocado con sonidos`
`01:22.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`unos sonidos que hize con zynaddsubfx`
`01:22.20`	`gs`	`si yo tb tengo el drak0ne nuevo`
`01:22.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`quizas te interese ;)`
`01:22.27`	`gs`	`pero sin sonidos`
`01:22.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`modificaste el darkone ?`
`01:22.46`	`gs`	`me baje unno ke no era el ke tenia de siempre`
`01:22.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`donde? quiero probarlo`
`01:23.37`	`gs`	`aunke lo mismo es el mismo pero el ultimo e16 del cvs hace ke se vean las ventanas de fondo diferentes`
`01:24.11`	`gs`	`vamos desaparecen llo de minimizar cerrar maximizar`
`01:24.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`01:24.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`el cvs de e16 lleva darkone ?`
`01:24.29`	`gs`	`veo ke sigues pinchandote`
`01:24.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:24.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`es que no me e enterado de lo que has dicho`
`01:25.01`	`gs`	`ke en las ventanas de segundo plano no se ven los iconillos de cerrar, minimizar, maximizar`
`01:25.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`aaah, el winter? que se le quitan los botones si no esta focusada?`
`01:25.13`	`gs`	`y en el dark0ne tb`
`01:25.16`	`gs`	`por lo visto`
`01:25.16`	`sinplomo`	`pf`
`01:25.22`	`sinplomo`	`esto desde siempre`
`01:25.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah bueno, pero eso siempre a existido en e16 (que yo sepa)`
`01:25.23`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:25.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah no`
`01:25.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`ostias pues si`
`01:25.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`que wapo`
`01:25.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`las quita solo`
`01:25.32`	`gs`	`pues ami de nunca`
`01:25.33`	`gs`	`xDD`
`01:25.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, pero sabia que eso lo puedes hacer desde el theme, cambiar el aspecto de la ventana si esta o no focusada`
`01:26.04`	`gs`	`seguramente`
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`01:26.45`	`sinplomo`	`acabo de descubrir unacosa en e16`
`01:26.46`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:27.03`	`sinplomo`	`una ventana , le haces click derecho en el borde superior y la envias al fondo`
`01:27.04`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:27.06`	`sinplomo`	`mola`
`01:27.14`	`gs`	`y ahora se entera XD`
`01:27.56`	`gs`	`yo lo descubri tb en la ultima ke compile el e16 del cvs`
`01:27.58`	`gs`	`hace poco :P`
`01:28.07`	`sinplomo`	`gs, por cierto,`
`01:28.35`	`sinplomo`	`que tiene de bueno que una tarjeta wireless entre en modo monitor ( que es eso de modo monitor ? )`
`01:28.52`	`gs`	`es como el modo promiscuo pero diferente`
`01:29.00`	`gs`	`con eso podras usar kismet`
`01:29.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo y en la barra, si mueves la rueda, ruedas la ventana xD`
`01:29.51`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, eso lo descubri el primer dia`
`01:29.52`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:30.07`	`sinplomo`	`gs, que es el modo promiscuo ?`
`01:30.08`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`01:30.34`	`Cybonix`	`hello all`
`01:30.46`	`gs`	`sinplomo, pues mas o menos ke pillas todo lo ke hay en la red aunke no venga para ti`
`01:30.48`	`gs`	`mas o menos`
`01:30.50`	`gs`	`hi Cybonix`
`01:31.09`	`Cybonix`	`I just loaded elive 0.3 yesterday and cannot login to E16 or E17.`
`01:31.20`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, send me .deb?`
`01:31.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`sure`
`01:31.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`darkone with cool sounds theme ;)`
`01:31.40`	`gs`	`9M!!!?`
`01:31.41`	`Cybonix`	`looping at splash login`
`01:31.47`	`gs`	`aaa the sounds`
`01:31.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs si bueno... tengo que optimizarlos un poco de tamaño cuando tenga tiempo xD`
`01:32.13`	`sinplomo`	`gs, o sea, como si detectase todas las redes que puedes pillar no ?`
`01:32.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`Cybonix press F2 and look a posible error message`
`01:32.36`	`gs`	`sinplomo, si mas o menos`
`01:32.39`	`Cybonix`	`ok I will try that with my desktop.... thanks`
`01:33.53`	`Cybonix`	`I also installed Elive 0.3 on my laptop. I love the enlightenment desktop enviroment`
`01:34.06`	`Cybonix`	`much better than fluxbox in my opinion.`
`01:34.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs cuando lo instales, mira todas las opciones, minimizar, "lower" (muy cachondo), configurar el iconbox (la hostia), mover y redimensionar tambien son la hostia... no los recuerdo todos xD`
`01:34.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`:) Cybonix`
`01:35.23`	`gs`	`bueno ke os folle un pez, me voy a la cama`
`01:35.24`	`gs`	`:P`
`01:35.26`	`Cybonix`	`my laptop is gateway solo 2500.... celeron mhz, 128 ram. I'm unable to mount floppy and cdrom. Also sound does work for video or audio playback.`
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`01:38.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
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`01:39.08`	`gs`	`por cierto Thanatermesis donde se supone ke te ha metido el tema?`
`01:39.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`en /usr/share/enlightenment/themes`
`01:39.22`	`gs`	`voy a oirlo antes de acostarme`
`01:39.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`01:39.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo`
`01:39.33`	`gs`	`pues no sale`
`01:39.37`	`gs`	`es donde primero he mirado`
`01:39.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`entonces en e16`
`01:39.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`01:41.00`	`gs`	`bueno ya lo vere luego`
`01:41.03`	`gs`	`ta luego`
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`01:41.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDD`
`01:43.02`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, xDDDDDDDDDDDD`
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`01:47.20`	`TuxMeister`	`hola gente`
`01:47.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`buenas TuxMeister`
`01:47.42`	`TuxMeister`	`que tal?`
`01:47.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`muy bien`
`01:47.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`aqui con curro y tal ;9`
`01:47.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`para variar xD`
`01:48.36`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
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`01:49.22`	`Elive_user3`	`pwd`
`01:49.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`01:49.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`si si, estas en Elive Elive_user3 xD`
`01:50.12`	`TuxMeister`	`jaja`
`01:50.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`que tal los segfaults TuxMeister ?`
`01:50.55`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, que pacha`
`01:50.56`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:50.59`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, xDDDDDD`
`01:51.21`	`TuxMeister`	`Thanatermesis, pos la verdad es que ni idea... llevo unos dias muy perro en xfce4`
`01:51.27`	`synd`	`how do you paste in eterm`
`01:51.40`	`synd`	`ctrl+v does not work`
`01:51.59`	`sinplomo`	`synd, select text and paste it using the middle mouse bottom`
`01:52.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`xfce4? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`01:52.22`	`synd`	`sinplomo: doesnt work either`
`01:52.30`	`synd`	`sinplomo: im copying from firefox to eterm`
`01:52.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`it works perfectly synd ;)`
`01:52.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`for me works`
`01:53.00`	`synd`	`yes, within eterm it works`
`01:53.06`	`synd`	`but im copying from firefox`
`01:53.11`	`TuxMeister`	`Thanatermesis, si que pasa, xfce4 mola`
`01:53.11`	`synd`	`and it doesnt..`
`01:53.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo veamos... http://elivecd.org/gb/FAQ/index.html que mas cosas suelen preguntar sinplomo ?`
`01:54.09`	`sinplomo`	`por la foto de tu novia ;)`
`01:54.17`	`TuxMeister`	`Thanatermesis, preguntan esto: sinplomo, cuanto pedias por la mamada? xD`
`01:54.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`for me works in firefox synd`
`01:54.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo ¬¬`
`01:54.29`	`synd`	`ugh`
`01:54.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:54.31`	`TuxMeister`	`jaja`
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`01:54.38`	`TuxMeister`	`que por cierto Thanatermesis, que tal con la parienta?`
`01:54.41`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, cambiar los menus`
`01:54.44`	`sinplomo`	`crear los eap`
`01:54.56`	`sinplomo`	`alsaconf pawa por si no va el sonido`
`01:55.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`mu bien TuxMeister ;)`
`01:55.48`	`TuxMeister`	`guay! y toy soltero xD`
`01:55.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`01:56.39`	`TuxMeister`	`no le molaba hacerlo con juguetitos tio, sera posible`
`01:57.15`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister no le molaba hacerlo con juguetitos tio, sera posible`
`01:57.19`	`sinplomo`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`01:57.28`	`TuxMeister`	`compre un tompo anal, como el que pillaste para la heidy, pero no le molaba, ni las bolas chinas ni nada tio, QUE SOSA, eso si, su lengua es inimitable`
`01:58.45`	`TuxMeister`	`es lo que hay tio`
`01:58.46`	`sinplomo`	`dios TuxMeister`
`01:58.49`	`sinplomo`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`01:58.52`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, que pasa tio?`
`01:58.53`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`01:58.53`	`sinplomo`	`tu estas requeteloco`
`01:58.54`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`01:59.09`	`sinplomo`	`dejas la novia porque no queire metersecosas por el culo`
`01:59.11`	`sinplomo`	`enga ya tio`
`01:59.12`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:59.45`	`TuxMeister`	`no tio, no es eso... es que a raiz de eso, me decia que solo la queria para el sexo, y eso no es verdad... yo no la he dejado por eso`
`02:00.15`	`TuxMeister`	`la he dejado por una estupidez, una cosa que no me molo nada... dijo a todos sus amigos que yo la obligaba a hacer guarradas en la cama, y la "guarrilla" es ella`
`02:00.34`	`synd`	`whats the default text editor cmd in elive?`
`02:00.44`	`TuxMeister`	`encima que le pido las cosas con delicadeza, me deja de violador y de acosador delante de mis colegas, pos no tio`
`02:02.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo http://elivecd.org/gb/FAQ/index.html`
`02:02.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`se te ocurre algo mas ?`
`02:02.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`e puesto 3 o 4`
`02:02.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD TuxMeister`
`02:02.48`	`sinplomo`	`sinplomo Thanatermesis, cambiar los menus`
`02:02.48`	`sinplomo`	`sinplomo crear los eap`
`02:02.48`	`sinplomo`	`* Elive_user3 has quit (Client Quit)`
`02:02.48`	`sinplomo`	`sinplomo alsaconf pawa por si no va el sonido`
`02:02.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer, pues una buena lengua es dificil de encontrar ;)`
`02:03.00`	`TuxMeister`	`ya`
`02:03.04`	`TuxMeister`	`pos la encontre`
`02:03.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`<TuxMeister> no tio, no es eso... es que a raiz de eso, me decia que solo la queria para el sexo, y eso no es verdad... yo no la he dejado por eso`
`02:03.20`	`TuxMeister`	`lo hacia genia, y le encantaba que yo se lo hiciera a ella`
`02:03.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que con todas las tias que e estado, todas me han dicho lo mismo`
`02:03.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD`
`02:03.39`	`TuxMeister`	`lo tuyo es diferente tio`
`02:03.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`synd use "scite" ;)`
`02:04.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo que dices? que menus? eaps, los eaps ya esta puesto, se nota que no te lo lees xD`
`02:04.21`	`TuxMeister`	`te colgaste por heidy, que era una sosa en la cama, y una cortada, que ademas, estaba siempre rara contigo... y a raiz de eso, vas a saco xD`
`02:04.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`y alsaconf tambien`
`02:04.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`joder, que coño dices? xD`
`02:04.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`TuxMeister es posible xDDDDDDD`
`02:05.22`	`TuxMeister`	`xD, mas que posible, es cierto... no me negaras que fue una de las razones para irte a belgica...`
`02:05.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya bueno, lo de belgica fue un poco todo junto que lo mandé a paseo lejos xD`
`02:06.04`	`TuxMeister`	`ya`
`02:06.10`	`sinplomo`	`esto parece salsa rosa`
`02:06.11`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:06.11`	`TuxMeister`	`pero mira, todavia no has vuelto tio`
`02:06.18`	`sinplomo`	`un confesionario amoroso`
`02:06.28`	`sinplomo`	`un la consulta de un psicologo`
`02:06.29`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:06.41`	`sinplomo`	`doctor, mi pariente no se mete cosas por el culo ...`
`02:06.41`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, si conocieras su historia con esa chica (que por cierto ha engordado bastante), no dirias eso`
`02:06.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`TuxMeister no es facil volver, y menos cuando mi padre se larga del piso en 1 mes y lo venden, si vuelvo alli seria con una proposicion de trabajo minimio`
`02:06.52`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`02:07.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`TuxMeister a engordado? xDDD cuando la has visto ?`
`02:07.41`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, tu como te sentirias... cuando te dice un colega que se ha reido mucho con tu novia, y contigo siempre esta llorando y discutiis`
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`02:09.12`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, eso me trae recuerdos que prefiero olvidarlos sinceramente`
`02:09.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya me imagino TuxMeister , que mala hostia, no ?`
`02:09.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDD sinplomo`
`02:09.27`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, me paso exactamente eso`
`02:09.43`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, recuerdos??? pero si tu no tienes recuerdos de tias xDDD`
`02:09.45`	`TuxMeister`	`es broma...`
`02:09.56`	`TuxMeister`	`pos sinplomo, entoncs sabras exactamente como se debio sentir Thanatermesis`
`02:10.09`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, bueno, ahora estoy delante de las compus no porque no me gustan las tias`
`02:10.13`	`sinplomo`	`yo no les gusto`
`02:10.15`	`sinplomo`	`no es lo mismo`
`02:10.16`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:10.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 j'ai rajoutée 5 FAQ, tu peut me le traduire du tarzanian au anglais? lol`
`02:10.34`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`02:10.36`	`sinplomo`	`du tarzanian au anglais <) xDDDD`
`02:11.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`<TuxMeister> pos sinplomo, entoncs sabras exactamente como se debio sentir Thanatermesis`
`02:11.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`ein ?`
`02:11.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero si hablaba sinplomo de lo de reirse`
`02:12.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 il faut rajouter une autre langue, "tarzanian" xD`
`02:12.39`	`TuxMeister`	`lo decia yo tonto xD`
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`02:25.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 #edje`
`02:25.48`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, me has dejao con las dudas`
`02:25.49`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:25.52`	`sinplomo`	`que habra pasao`
`02:25.58`	`sinplomo`	`prefiero no saberlo`
`02:25.59`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:26.04`	`TuxMeister`	`con quien?`
`02:26.07`	`sinplomo`	`recuerdos malos ..`
`02:26.12`	`sinplomo`	`brandy`
`02:26.13`	`sinplomo`	`..`
`02:26.16`	`sinplomo`	`borrachear`
`02:26.18`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`02:26.20`	`sinplomo`	`y a cagarla`
`02:26.20`	`TuxMeister`	`jaja`
`02:26.21`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:26.34`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, el otro dia estuve fumando shisha en un restaurante turco muy guapo`
`02:26.47`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`02:27.29`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, metele eso por al ano a tu novia`
`02:27.31`	`sinplomo`	`flipara`
`02:27.31`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:28.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`02:28.26`	`TuxMeister`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD se te va sinplomo`
`02:28.39`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, shht`
`02:28.40`	`TuxMeister`	`per estaba muy guapo tio, y la cachimba era enorme, era sabor manzana`
`02:28.40`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:28.56`	`sinplomo`	`ya ya`
`02:29.00`	`TuxMeister`	`ademas, eso tiraba cacho, la racion me duro 3 carbones`
`02:29.05`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:29.10`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, te gusto eh`
`02:29.11`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:29.37`	`TuxMeister`	`ya habia fumad antes, pero en casa de un colega, y la cachimba no tiraba mucho no sabia prepararlo`
`02:29.52`	`TuxMeister`	`tu has fumado no?`
`02:30.01`	`sinplomo`	`no`
`02:30.07`	`sinplomo`	`tu ya sabes que no fumo`
`02:30.08`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:30.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`02:30.12`	`sinplomo`	`algun peta por ahi`
`02:30.14`	`sinplomo`	`alguna calada`
`02:30.16`	`sinplomo`	`pero bah`
`02:30.24`	`sinplomo`	`alcohol pawa`
`02:30.25`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`02:30.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`el dia que lo hagas de verdad sudaras xD`
`02:30.57`	`TuxMeister`	`jaja, asi que nuestro morito gasolina 95 le da a la botella`
`02:31.03`	`TuxMeister`	`pos que sepas que eso es una mierda`
`02:31.10`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, ya ya`
`02:31.19`	`sinplomo`	`bueno, todo el acohol es una mierda,`
`02:31.25`	`sinplomo`	`menos los chupitos de tequila`
`02:31.30`	`sinplomo`	`ahi quedamos`
`02:31.34`	`TuxMeister`	`las mejores linuxeadas mias y de Thanatermesis juntos estaban entre ducados y guarana!`
`02:31.35`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, no pienso hacerlo`
`02:31.36`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:31.50`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, esto huele a maricones`
`02:32.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`alli alli ;)`
`02:32.10`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, nah loco, te lo puede confirmar, en casa de su viejo`
`02:32.11`	`sinplomo`	`as mejores linuxeadas mias y de Thanatermesis juntos`
`02:32.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo !!! tienes que mandarme una cosa de marruecos, y no me puedes decir que no o no te dejare tranquilo para el resto de tu vida xD`
`02:32.12`	`sinplomo`	`xDDD`
`02:32.30`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, hash no`
`02:32.30`	`TuxMeister`	`taba???`
`02:32.30`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:32.32`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`02:32.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`taba taba taba !`
`02:32.41`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, dios, esa si que mola`
`02:32.42`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:32.54`	`sinplomo`	`le quito un poco a mi tio cuando esta despistao`
`02:32.55`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:32.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`quiero taba de verdad sinplomo , aqui solo se encuentra mentolados xD`
`02:33.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo una buena racion, asi no te pediré 2 veces ;)`
`02:33.09`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, si quiers taba de verdad vente pa ca`
`02:33.10`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:33.10`	`TuxMeister`	`ya`
`02:33.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo ya... como si pudiera xD`
`02:33.23`	`TuxMeister`	`aunque ese que se pilla en belgica esta cacho de guapo, hace un rato me meti una ralla`
`02:33.23`	`sinplomo`	`no creo que dejen pasar eso por la aduana tio`
`02:33.24`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:33.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`me lo podrias mandar sinplomo ? lo busco pero no hay manera de encontrar del bueno de marruecos`
`02:33.42`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, bueno, el nombre espanol es rape`
`02:33.42`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:33.47`	`sinplomo`	`taba == rape`
`02:34.01`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, no creo que dejen pasar eso por la aduana`
`02:34.09`	`sinplomo`	`es mas , por aqui esta prohibido`
`02:34.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo que duana ni que pollas? en un sobre dentro de otro y fuera, ni registros ni pollas (dejando aparte que es un material totalmente legal echo con solo tabaco)`
`02:34.14`	`TuxMeister`	`ya lo se... y si que lo dejarian pasar, aki el rape se vende en los estancos tio`
`02:34.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`como que esta prohibido? o_O`
`02:34.29`	`sinplomo`	`ademas de la condena que te cae, esta la demanda de la tabaquera`
`02:34.31`	`TuxMeister`	`yo flipo Thanatermesis`
`02:34.39`	`TuxMeister`	`quedices????`
`02:34.54`	`sinplomo`	`el rape de los estancos no es el que se esnifa aqui`
`02:35.00`	`sinplomo`	`el de los estancos es menos fino`
`02:35.03`	`sinplomo`	`o eso tengo entendido`
`02:35.13`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, ah claro, alli la gente no se puede meter nada que no sea hash marroqui, por que si no, te encierran, que fuerte, eso se llama monopolio eh xDDDDDDDDD`
`02:35.23`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, es menos fino`
`02:35.27`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, pero a ver, a ver si logro contactar con mi primo en belgica`
`02:35.38`	`TuxMeister`	`pero el que me trajo Thanatermesis de belgica es finisimo y tampoco tuvo problemas`
`02:35.41`	`sinplomo`	`y a ver ue me dira el`
`02:35.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo no es que sea mas fino, es que es una mierda xD`
`02:35.54`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, eso eso`
`02:36.07`	`TuxMeister`	`sinplomo, se acumula en bolitas en tu garganta, y cuando eso baja no mola nada`
`02:36.08`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:36.16`	`sinplomo`	`TuxMeister, que lo se tio`
`02:36.17`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:36.28`	`sinplomo`	`venios pa ca joder`
`02:36.30`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:36.34`	`sinplomo`	`sexo`
`02:36.36`	`sinplomo`	`alcohol`
`02:36.38`	`sinplomo`	`bash`
`02:36.39`	`sinplomo`	`taba`
`02:36.41`	`sinplomo`	`shisha`
`02:36.44`	`sinplomo`	`locales`
`02:36.46`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`02:36.47`	`sinplomo`	`x`
`02:36.48`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`02:37.03`	`TuxMeister`	`joder tio que flipe`
`02:37.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`02:37.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`TuxMeister sabes que la vida en marruecos esta por lo menos 3 veces mas facil/mejor que en españa ahora? xD`
`02:38.13`	`TuxMeister`	`si, pero tambien se que como alli no pueden dar el palo por que la gente es pobre los joputas vienen aki`
`02:38.19`	`TuxMeister`	`joputa=ladron`
`02:38.23`	`TuxMeister`	`currante=tio guay`
`02:38.30`	`TuxMeister`	`no nos ekivokemos, no todos vienen a eso`
`02:43.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`solo los de las ramblas TuxMeister xD`
`02:44.11`	`TuxMeister`	`xD casi todos, no solo las rablas xD`
`02:44.26`	`TuxMeister`	`Thanatermesis, tienes un purito tio?`
`02:49.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ostias no`
`02:49.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahora fumo tabaco liado a pelo`
`02:50.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`aqui no se venden los reig mini filter :(`
`02:50.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero es verdad que te deja con la cabeza un poco molida TuxMeister y el cuerpo cansado... a ti no te pasaba?`
`02:50.59`	`TuxMeister`	`el purito o el drum?`
`02:51.03`	`TuxMeister`	`yo es que no se liar tio...`
`02:51.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`el reig mini filter, los de vainilla`
`02:51.37`	`TuxMeister`	`a mi no, lo que aveces tio, los ultimos 3-4 calos tio, te saben a tiro en el pulmon`
`02:52.05`	`TuxMeister`	`a mi me encantan tio`
`02:52.25`	`TuxMeister`	`mientras hay insti fumo mas puritos que tabaco`
`02:52.33`	`TuxMeister`	`uno con el cafe y el bocata fijo`
`02:52.53`	`TuxMeister`	`y luego depende del dia, uno en los 10 minutos de descanso, que nos vamos todos a la zona de fumadores`
`02:53.57`	`TuxMeister`	`o en invierno al lavabo de tios que hay unas estufas muy chulas to`
`02:54.49`	`TuxMeister`	`te apoyas alli tio, y se te calienta el culo, y con el cigarrito y el cafe caliente (de makina, no ha otra cosa...) se esta de maravilla tio`
`02:54.50`	`TuxMeister`	`xD`
`02:55.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo es que fumo desde los 14 años, llevo ya 11 años fumando :/`
`02:55.56`	`TuxMeister`	`yo desde los 13`
`02:56.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues asi acabaremos xD`
`02:56.09`	`TuxMeister`	`jaja`
`02:58.12`	`TuxMeister`	`oye pos ara que hablas de tabaco, no soporto ya el ducados`
`02:58.20`	`TuxMeister`	`lo huelo a distancia y me ahoga el humo tio`
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`02:59.17`	`Elive_user3`	`just installed it! it is very nice! thanks!`
`02:59.22`	`Elive_user3`	`bye`
`03:00.40`	`TuxMeister`	`joder xD`
`03:00.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`TuxMeister pues llevan asi una semana xD`
`03:00.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`todos hacen lo mismo xD`
`03:01.06`	`TuxMeister`	`jaja xD`
`03:01.14`	`TuxMeister`	`que perros, por lo menos que digan algo mas tio xD`
`03:01.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:02.09`	`TuxMeister`	`bueno tio, me voy a sobar que quiero estar un rato escuchando la lluvia`
`03:02.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(~)==--> cat xchatlogs/FreeNode-#elive.log \| grep nice \| wc -l`
`03:02.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`33`
`03:02.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(~)==--> cat xchatlogs/FreeNode-#elive.log \| grep cool \| wc -l`
`03:02.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`21`
`03:03.00`	`TuxMeister`	`jaja`
`03:03.01`	`TuxMeister`	`cool`
`03:03.04`	`TuxMeister`	`ha son 22 xD`
`03:03.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:03.20`	`TuxMeister`	`que el numero 21 no se por que per no me mola xD`
`03:03.25`	`TuxMeister`	`bueno, voy a sobar tio`
`03:03.27`	`TuxMeister`	`nas noches!`
`03:03.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:03.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`venga TuxMeister`
`03:03.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`buenas noces`
`03:03.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`noches`
`03:03.36`	`TuxMeister`	`NIGHT TO EVERYBODY!`
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`03:24.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`Have a look on this little script bellow... With this script on linuxrc you can start morphix on CD/USB and use your hdd for all persistant /home data and also for the /tmp`
`03:24.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo ;)`
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`03:31.14`	`Elive_user3`	`hello...how can i add more resolutions to randr? I've only got 640*480?`
`03:31.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3`
`03:31.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt elive-resolution`
`03:31.35`	`apt`	`from memory, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options, or change manually the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file with "scite" and restart graphical-environment`
`03:32.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`in this file, you can add all your posibles resolutions for this moments, I need to make a panel of control ;)`
`03:33.24`	`Elive_user3`	`sorry, but how do i restart graphical-environment?`
`03:33.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`exit from graphical interface... and enter ;)`
`03:33.58`	`Elive_user3`	`:D`
`03:34.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ctrl+alt+backspace?`
`03:34.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`03:34.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`good idea lol`
`03:34.41`	`Elive_user3`	`but i've already done that...i have 1024x768 as the first resolution in X configuration file, for all possible depths`
`03:36.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`03:36.30`	`pr0t0cod7`	`mouhahhaha`
`03:36.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais non`
`03:36.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est pas posible`
`03:36.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:36.44`	`PounK`	`c'est normal que sur elive quand je démare openoffice writer depuis le menu, ça dit que la commande oowriter2 n'existe pas?`
`03:36.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`je te dit que celuila sait pas ce quil fait`
`03:36.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
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`03:37.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui PounK , lit le FAQ ;)`
`03:37.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`ou le tunning, je sait plus`
`03:37.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 works good ?`
`03:37.28`	`Elive_user3`	`nope`
`03:37.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:37.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:37.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:37.43`	`Elive_user3`	`is randr only to be found in e17?`
`03:37.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have similar lines Elive_user3 ?`
`03:37.56`	`pr0t0cod7`	`PounK: http://elivecd.org/gb/Tuning/index.html partie Upgrade`
`03:38.32`	`Elive_user3`	`Thanatermesis, yes, done that...although I'm an E first timer, i have pretty good experience with linux in general`
`03:39.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh, but not is posible to you don't posible to have another resolutions if you have configured this...`
`03:39.33`	`PounK`	`aussi, je dit ça comme ça, mais sa serait bien de pouvoir choisier le keymap au démarage... pour un québecois, ce n'est pas l'idéal avoir le keymap fr.. ben toi aussi Thanatermesis qui est belge doit n'a pas de clavier français?`
`03:40.10`	`Elive_user3`	`i have no idea...but first, is randr available under e16?`
`03:40.13`	`pr0t0cod7`	`le keymap c'est pas un parametre du boot?`
`03:40.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`no Elive_user3`
`03:40.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user Elive_user2 please change the nickname`
`03:40.49`	`Elive_user3`	`then the only way to change resolution in e16 is by editing X's configuration file?`
`03:40.49`	`elive-bot`	`Elive_user3: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`03:40.55`	`PounK`	`c'est peut être un paramettre du boot, j'ai pas regarder..`
`03:41.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`PounK non, je utilise le espagnol lol`
`03:41.32`	`PounK`	`ah ,k`
`03:41.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`PounK mais.. tu peut... de fait... tu DOIT choisir une langue au demarrage...`
`03:41.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu ne sait pas passer le demarrage sans le choisire`
`03:42.09`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui mais keymap != lang`
`03:42.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`03:42.22`	`PounK`	`une langue mais pas un keymap.. les québecois aime bien utiliser leur clavier qwerty avec la langue française..`
`03:42.24`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: normalment il y a une commande pour changer de keymap a la volée`
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`03:42.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`aha!`
`03:42.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`je vois`
`03:42.52`	`PounK`	`clavier qwerty dont le keymap est ca_enhanced dans xorg et cf pour la grosse console`
`03:43.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`03:43.25`	`PounK`	`c'est assez fluide je trouve elive en vmware avec 256 meg de ram`
`03:43.26`	`pr0t0cod7`	`loadkeys`
`03:43.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`en tout cas, PounK , ça será pour le paneaux de configuration :)`
`03:43.50`	`Elive_user3`	`i've failed to change the resolution in both e16 & 17...how do you people do it then?`
`03:43.50`	`elive-bot`	`Elive_user3: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`03:44.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 one second...`
`03:44.32`	`pr0t0cod7`	`PounK: loadkeys ça pourrait te servir`
`03:44.37`	`PounK`	`ok`
`03:45.52`	`PounK`	`et pour X, je change le xorg a chaque démarage du live cd?`
`03:46.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`arggh! fucking cd-rom device`
`03:49.00`	`Elive_user3`	`even xconf fails`
`03:49.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`03:49.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`strange`
`03:53.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`hummm`
`03:53.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`modelines error`
`03:54.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`one second Elive_user3`
`03:55.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Elive_user3 , delete all lines with contain the "modeline" word`
`03:57.25`	`Elive_user3`	`Thanatermesis, there are no such lines`
`03:57.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es there are no such lines`
`03:58.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`ModeLine "800x600" 31-50 640 656 720 848 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync`
`03:58.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`similar to this Elive_user3`
`03:59.49`	`Elive_user3`	`Thanatermesis, nothing...would you like me to show you my X file?`
`04:00.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, paste all in www.pastebin.com`
`04:00.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`the XF86Config-4 file`
`04:03.29`	`Elive_user3`	`http://pastebin.com/355800`
`04:06.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 , try to delete the lines 115 to 134`
`04:09.35`	`PounK`	`j'utilise blender sur elive en live cd sur du vmware et sa lague pas!`
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`04:09.52`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanatermesis, nothing :(`
`04:10.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`04:10.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`PounK il fait qoi ?`
`04:11.16`	`PounK`	`ce n'est pas lent et sa fonctionne quand même bien`
`04:11.20`	`PounK`	`et j'ai 256 meg de ram`
`04:11.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`il marche bien blender ?`
`04:11.52`	`PounK`	`oui en vmware sur elive`
`04:11.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, parfait :)=`
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`04:12.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2 , delete the files: XF86Config XF86Config.in XF86Config-4.in`
`04:14.48`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanatermesis, and ctrl-alt-bs? is that enough?`
`04:15.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`is for exit to X forcely`
`04:15.06`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanatermesis, do you think reconfiguring X can help?`
`04:15.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user2 , delete the files: XF86Config XF86Config.in XF86Config-4.in`
`04:15.44`	`Elive_user2`	`already done that, i'll restart X and see`
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`04:18.46`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanatermesis, also nothing`
`04:18.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es also nothing`
`04:19.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`and the lines in 115 -> 134 deleted ?`
`04:19.33`	`Elive_user2`	`yes`
`04:19.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:21.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`and if not, try to use "vesa" driver in the line 149 http://pastebin.com/355800`
`04:22.47`	`Elive_user2`	`i'll try that...`
`04:26.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es PS is there any way that you know of to detect key strokes in enlightenment? Something like bbkeys for blackbox?`
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`04:26.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt bbkeys`
`04:26.53`	`apt`	`hmm... bbkeys is http://www.longbros.com/benjamin/ipaq/`
`04:27.05`	`Elive_user2`	`Thanatermesis, vesa worked, thanks a lot!`
`04:27.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
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`04:35.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`PounK essaye de lancer le programme "keybconfig"`
`04:36.53`	`PounK`	`j'ai trouvé setxkbmap qui permet de modifier directement le keymap de X`
`04:37.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`04:42.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`'night all`
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`04:57.30`	`Voodoomurphy`	`hey, anyone able to answer some install questions?`
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`06:26.10`	`synd`	`i lost some windows`
`06:26.13`	`synd`	`in e16`
`06:26.16`	`synd`	`how do i get them back`
`06:32.42`	`vikas`	`synd: in e16?`
`06:32.44`	`vikas`	`wierd`
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`08:32.21`	`Mac_Cloud`	`just want to thank you for your job on making e17 userfriendly`
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`09:09.27`	`azzazus`	`still have a problem with the resolution`
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`09:45.29`	`synd`	`how do i take a screenshot ?`
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`10:03.07`	`vikas`	`synd: use scrot`
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`10:21.26`	`synd`	`elive@elive[~]$ scrot`
`10:21.26`	`synd`	`-bash: scrot: command not found`
`10:21.55`	`vikas`	`ok use import`
`10:22.10`	`vikas`	`or "apt-get install scrot"`
`10:25.15`	`synd`	`vikas: thanks`
`10:29.30`	`synd`	`so, it does true transparency via dragging..`
`10:29.49`	`synd`	`is there any way to also have this transparency at all times?`
`10:32.40`	`vikas`	`synd: i don't think so...`
`10:32.53`	`vikas`	`unless you are running xorg and xcompmgr`
`10:33.01`	`synd`	`:/`
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`10:53.35`	`synd`	`is there any reason why tdfsb is sucking a lot of CPU?`
`10:53.43`	`synd`	`and 'dialog'`
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`11:31.10`	`CGA`	`moo`
`11:32.43`	`CGA`	`The power of the cow -->> http://www.linux.it/~cga/wallpapers/Moo.tar.gz`
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`12:47.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo!`
`12:47.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`'morning`
`12:48.41`	`CGA`	`ciao Thanatermesis`
`12:49.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`yop CGA`
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`13:02.11`	`azzazus`	`does anyone know how to boot in verbose mode?`
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`13:05.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus you have problems with resolution ?`
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`13:06.00`	`TuxMeister`	`holaaaa`
`13:06.15`	`azzazus`	`yes, but it's not fixed, someone told me to edit xf86config-4,but, i don't know what to edit`
`13:07.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`13:07.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`try this`
`13:07.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`delete all lines with contain similar lines: ModeLine "800x600" 31-50 640 656 720 848 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync`
`13:07.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`all "Modeline" lines`
`13:08.43`	`azzazus`	`ok`
`13:09.12`	`azzazus`	`so, delete the mode section?`
`13:09.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`no`
`13:09.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`only "modeline" lines`
`13:09.42`	`azzazus`	`ok`
`13:09.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`similar to the before line`
`13:10.08`	`azzazus`	`brb`
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`13:16.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA you have looked the enlgihtenment forum ?`
`13:16.55`	`CGA`	`nope`
`13:17.04`	`CGA`	`you mean the one on edevelop?`
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`13:25.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es the problem is that it can't even find nv driver`
`13:25.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im not sure CGA , aparently exist a forum in edevelop`
`13:31.03`	`CGA`	`so which forum you intended in the first place?`
`13:32.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es so which forum you intended in the first place?`
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`13:33.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`posible is good idea to use this`
`13:34.40`	`erGoline_`	`hi`
`13:35.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi`
`13:36.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es it would be nice to have the res variable`
`13:36.32`	`erGoline_`	`great piece of software e17!`
`13:36.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, sure ;)`
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`13:37.45`	`erGoline_`	`Hi alredy use it on my gentoo notebook.. elive cd seems nice so I give it a try ;)`
`13:38.01`	`azzazus`	`it didn't work`
`13:38.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus ok, try to change the driver to "vesa"`
`13:38.41`	`erGoline_`	`uhm.. control panel doesnt work.. xconf could not be executed`
`13:39.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`erGoline_ because xconf doesn't work properly, I have deleted this`
`13:40.13`	`azzazus`	`brb`
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`13:41.30`	`erGoline_`	`Thanatermesis, how can I change keyboard map, please?`
`13:41.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`keybconfig`
`13:42.06`	`erGoline_`	`infact loadkey doen-t work, ok I try`
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`13:44.24`	`erGoline_`	`ok, done`
`13:44.39`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, que forum tu as dico antes?`
`13:44.44`	`erGoline_`	`Thanatermesis, could I ask you a thing about engage?`
`13:44.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA from enlightenment.org ?`
`13:45.03`	`CGA`	`gonna check`
`13:45.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`erGoline_ yes, but not for this moments.. I need to go some minutes for send a mail to Sri Lanka`
`13:45.44`	`erGoline_`	`ok no problem :)`
`13:48.18`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, esta solamente el forum de edevelop`
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`13:53.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA any link for Im loking this ?`
`13:54.16`	`CGA`	`edevelop.org and then you click on forums in the menu on the right`
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`13:55.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, give me a minutes... I need to go, after I look`
`13:55.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`~brb`
`13:56.01`	`apt`	`thanatermesis: brb, too. Be Right Back`
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`14:36.34`	`DaSkreech`	`Hello`
`14:36.53`	`sinplomo`	`hi !`
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`14:37.01`	`DaSkreech`	`Elive rocketh`
`14:37.14`	`sinplomo`	`yeah`
`14:37.15`	`mariodebian`	`hi :P`
`14:37.18`	`sinplomo`	`buenas mariodebian`
`14:37.25`	`mariodebian`	`buenas sinplomo`
`14:37.36`	`sinplomo`	`ves la gente que hay aqui`
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`14:37.38`	`sinplomo`	`xDD`
`14:38.18`	`mariodebian`	`hay mucha gente, no?`
`14:38.35`	`mariodebian`	`joer... que pasa con elive?? sale en distrowatch y en un montón de sitios...`
`14:38.45`	`sinplomo`	`ya :)`
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`14:52.32`	`Nilew`	`hi all`
`14:53.08`	`DaSkreech`	`All stepped out for a few minutes. Can I take a message?`
`14:57.27`	`Nilew`	`hmm, anybody that can help me with crappy mplyer play?`
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`15:16.52`	`CGA`	`http://www.linux.it/~cga/wallpapers/Moo.tar.gz`
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`15:20.32`	`roxville`	`apt x en es hello!`
`15:24.28`	`sinplomo`	`hi`
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`15:25.59`	`sinplomo`	`CGA nice :)`
`15:27.08`	`CGA`	`you like?`
`15:27.25`	`sinplomo`	`yes :)`
`15:27.39`	`CGA`	`good`
`15:28.04`	`sinplomo`	`i will put is as my wallpaper :)`
`15:29.35`	`roxville`	`apt x en es how do i get that long "l" symbol to put in grep`
`15:29.36`	`CGA`	`i do already do`
`15:29.43`	`CGA`	`=) mooooooooooooo`
`15:30.05`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i know it sounds stupid, but i can't find it on my keyboard`
`15:30.19`	`sinplomo`	`roxville \|`
`15:30.27`	`sinplomo`	`copy and past it`
`15:30.29`	`roxville`	`yes, that one`
`15:30.31`	`sinplomo`	`\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|`
`15:30.34`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`15:30.45`	`roxville`	`i can't paste stuf in eterm`
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`15:30.55`	`roxville`	`lol, thank you, thank you!`
`15:30.55`	`Elive_user`	`\h`
`15:30.56`	`sinplomo`	`roxville yes you can`
`15:32.05`	`sinplomo`	`roxville select the caracter and in the eterm click with the middle mouse boutton`
`15:32.36`	`roxville`	`can't do it, all it does is give me a new line`
`15:33.36`	`roxville`	`sooo weird`
`15:34.10`	`sinplomo`	`roxville you have and english keyboard ?`
`15:34.20`	`roxville`	`yes...us`
`15:35.25`	`roxville`	`it's configured, i just don't know the keys to press`
`15:35.59`	`sinplomo`	`roxville , run xkeycaps`
`15:36.23`	`roxville`	`ok, wil do!`
`15:38.59`	`roxville`	`ok, in eterm it says "command not found", and i can't find it in the menu...i feel so stupid`
`15:40.12`	`Nilew`	`is it just me that has bad player support in webpages?`
`15:41.24`	`roxville`	`haven't even tried it Nilew`
`15:41.46`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis menudo cagon eres, mira que no meter eso`
`15:41.47`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`15:42.23`	`roxville`	`apt x es en menudo cagon eres, mira que no meter eso`
`15:42.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`15:43.03`	`sinplomo`	`roxville apt-get install xkeycaps && xkeycaps :)`
`15:43.03`	`Nilew`	`ok.`
`15:43.23`	`roxville`	`well sinplomo, no matter how much you try to think of everything, you can't think of EVERYTHING`
`15:43.42`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis has done an outstanding job as it is`
`15:43.44`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es well sinplomo, no matter how much you try to think of everything, you can't think of EVERYTHING`
`15:43.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`15:43.59`	`roxville`	`and we are just here to help him make an even better distro`
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`15:44.34`	`roxville`	`apt x en es and stress the crap out of him! lol`
`15:44.50`	`sinplomo`	`(...)`
`15:44.58`	`roxville`	`hmmm that did not translate well, did it?`
`15:45.51`	`roxville`	`sinplomo, can you tell me where it is on your keyboard?`
`15:46.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`for what is xkeycaps ?`
`15:46.08`	`roxville`	`the character i'm looking for?`
`15:46.31`	`sinplomo`	`roxville i have a french keyboard`
`15:46.32`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`15:46.38`	`sinplomo`	`roxville apt-get install xkeycaps && xkeycaps :)`
`15:46.49`	`roxville`	`ok, xkeycaps is "unknown command" when i type it in eterm`
`15:47.42`	`sinplomo`	`apt-get install xkeycaps`
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`15:48.20`	`roxville`	`ok, i thought it was installed...sorry`
`15:49.11`	`Nilew`	`how do I install a printer? the printer config tool don't start`
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`15:51.41`	`sinplomo`	`roxville shift + [ the key next to backspace ]`
`15:51.50`	`roxville`	`shadoi..i wanna thank you for your howto's, they're great, man!`
`15:52.10`	`roxville`	`\|`
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`15:52.15`	`sinplomo`	`roxville , :)`
`15:52.15`	`roxville`	`HAHAAAA!!!!`
`15:52.19`	`roxville`	`\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|`
`15:53.03`	`sinplomo`	`roxville :)`
`15:53.08`	`roxville`	`sinplomo...muchos, muchos gracias :)`
`15:53.21`	`sinplomo`	`roxville de nada ;)`
`15:53.30`	`sinplomo`	`roxville muchas not muchos ;)`
`15:53.56`	`roxville`	`thank you, merci, vielen dank, tack, kiitos`
`15:54.17`	`sinplomo`	`LOL`
`15:54.28`	`shadoi`	`roxville: You mean on edevelop.org? that module tutorial is written by essiene, I can't take credit. :)`
`15:54.31`	`shadoi`	`I just setup the site.`
`15:54.32`	`roxville`	`domo arigato, ....damn i don't know more than that?`
`15:55.14`	`sinplomo`	`chukran ( arabic )`
`15:55.20`	`sinplomo`	`xP`
`15:55.26`	`roxville`	`chukran`
`15:55.51`	`roxville`	`choda hafes...but that's how are you in farsi`
`15:55.58`	`roxville`	`never mind`
`15:56.35`	`roxville`	`yes, muchas...i knew that, just got too excited that's...thanks`
`15:56.47`	`roxville`	`that's all`
`15:56.56`	`sinplomo`	`you're wellcome`
`15:57.15`	`roxville`	`welcome, not wellcome`
`15:57.17`	`roxville`	`lol`
`15:58.31`	`roxville`	`shadoi, everybody and their dog in the ubuntu forums at least, are referring to you stuff`
`15:58.40`	`roxville`	`your stuff`
`15:59.01`	`sinplomo`	`roxville bah xP`
`15:59.05`	`shadoi`	`roxville: ah, thanks then.`
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`16:00.20`	`roxville`	`sinplomo, i know that ubuntu is a bad word around here, but it has helped me a LOT to get into linux, and debian`
`16:00.56`	`shadoi`	`I like ubuntu, it's a good idea.`
`16:01.09`	`shadoi`	`I'm a little worried they're forking too far, but shrug`
`16:01.11`	`shadoi`	`it's all good.`
`16:01.17`	`roxville`	`and their forums are great...never seen anything like it`
`16:01.46`	`sinplomo`	`roxville, i used ubuntu before debian`
`16:01.55`	`roxville`	`yes, i'm starting to worry about that too...too many dependncy probs when trying to install other packages`
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`16:02.31`	`sinplomo`	`and it has helped me a lot too :)`
`16:02.41`	`roxville`	`:)`
`16:05.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville mmmh, module tutorial ? in what link ?`
`16:06.35`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, is this a test?`
`16:07.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`no, I don't know this tutorial, how to download ?`
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`16:08.29`	`roxville`	`http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/compile-kernel-module`
`16:08.57`	`roxville`	`oops, that was just a question, sorry!!`
`16:09.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`kernel module ?`
`16:09.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`you don't speak for "e17 module" ?`
`16:10.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://download1.livecd.net/.external/elive-0.3.iso <--- this mirror works good ?`
`16:10.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im not posible to download`
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`16:12.27`	`roxville`	`i can't load it either`
`16:12.39`	`craewebpt`	`no work for me`
`16:12.47`	`craewebpt`	`not*`
`16:13.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
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`16:15.18`	`roxville`	`thana who was talking about e17 modules? it wasn't me`
`16:15.46`	`DaSkreech`	`David considering coming in`
`16:16.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`s hadoi> roxville: You mean on edevelop.org? that module tutorial is written by essiene, I can't take credit. :)`
`16:17.05`	`roxville`	`oh, sorry i missed that one. my gaughter is 3 yrs, and very demanding... :)`
`16:17.10`	`roxville`	`daughter`
`16:18.03`	`roxville`	`i have e17 working in ubuntu hoary, but i can't install ecore or any EFL stuff`
`16:19.34`	`roxville`	`because of ubuntu libc6 and stuff...it really sucks`
`16:19.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`16:19.46`	`roxville`	`but i have elive now :)`
`16:19.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`but e17 NEEDS ecore`
`16:19.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`16:20.00`	`roxville`	`i know, it's crazy!`
`16:20.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`16:20.51`	`DaSkreech`	`whats ecore?`
`16:20.56`	`DaSkreech`	`The core of e? :-)`
`16:21.16`	`roxville`	`lol DaSkreech`
`16:21.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`the lib of control all libs of E (little description)`
`16:22.02`	`roxville`	`better than i could say it! :)`
`16:22.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`look the left panel ;) http://www.enlightenment.org/Libraries/Documentation/index.html`
`16:22.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es left`
`16:22.50`	`roxville`	`apt x en es left hand`
`16:23.17`	`roxville`	`apt x en es right hand`
`16:23.47`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, apt should do phonetics too lol`
`16:24.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`16:28.18`	`roxville`	`is there a way to just update the menus when you have installed something?`
`16:28.57`	`sinplomo`	`roxville e17 or e16 ?`
`16:29.09`	`roxville`	`e16`
`16:29.16`	`sinplomo`	`roxville e16menuedit2 :)`
`16:30.22`	`roxville`	`yes i found it, but it does not do it automatically, like the denian menu?`
`16:30.29`	`roxville`	`debian`
`16:30.29`	`elive-bot`	`roxville: http://www.debian.org/`
`16:31.14`	`rookmoot`	`lol`
`16:31.15`	`rookmoot`	`quel bot de merde ;)`
`16:31.15`	`rookmoot`	`pardon :(`
`16:31.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`16:31.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville try to upgrade your configs`
`16:31.44`	`rookmoot`	`mandriva`
`16:31.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`16:31.54`	`rookmoot`	`pffff`
`16:31.58`	`rookmoot`	`elive`
`16:31.59`	`elive-bot`	`rookmoot: http://livecd.debianitas.net/news.html`
`16:32.05`	`rookmoot`	`pffff`
`16:32.08`	`rookmoot`	`;)`
`16:32.10`	`rookmoot`	`englobe`
`16:32.15`	`rookmoot`	`héhé`
`16:32.28`	`DaSkreech`	`Ah e is pretty`
`16:32.38`	`roxville`	`ok Thanatermesis ...and how to do that?`
`16:32.41`	`DaSkreech`	`Still say that the snow effect should build up on windows`
`16:33.01`	`roxville`	`oh, i did the upgrade today, entrance2 greeted me just fine!`
`16:33.24`	`rookmoot`	`entrance2 ?`
`16:33.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville look the "tunning" page ;)`
`16:33.32`	`rookmoot`	`entrance2 ?`
`16:33.46`	`HandyAndE`	`Thanatermesis: Tuning`
`16:34.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, yes, needs to modify the words in the webpage ;)`
`16:34.35`	`rookmoot`	`HandyAndE, yop !`
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`16:36.04`	`mchasard`	`oops`
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`16:38.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
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`16:40.29`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, elive skel is really cool!`
`16:40.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`16:40.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`good and unique feature ? :)`
`16:40.59`	`DaSkreech`	`Skel?`
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`16:41.59`	`roxville`	`yes Thanatermesis , it's very good!`
`16:42.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`16:42.16`	`DaSkreech`	`Whats Skel>`
`16:42.20`	`RQ`	`hey Thanatermesis`
`16:42.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`DaSkreech its a feature for upgrade your configurations manually ;)`
`16:42.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`hey RQ`
`16:42.31`	`RQ`	`checking what the hell happenned now :\|`
`16:42.38`	`RQ`	`Elive is not the only missing thing`
`16:42.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville you have Xchat in spanish ?`
`16:42.47`	`roxville`	`everything turned black after upgrading .e16, and i lost my background, but it was cool! (NOT SARCASTIC!)`
`16:42.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es checking what the hell happenned now`
`16:42.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es Elive is not the only missing thing`
`16:43.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`RQ Im not really understand`
`16:43.21`	`rookmoot`	`Thanatermesis, il y a un nouveau entrance ?`
`16:43.25`	`roxville`	`si Thanatermesis , en espanol...`
`16:43.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville not only this, if upgrade ".e" you have the oo2 icons repaired... etc`
`16:43.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`rookmoot non lol`
`16:43.57`	`rookmoot`	`pk entrance2 tout a l'heure alors ?*`
`16:44.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`chez pas lol`
`16:44.14`	`roxville`	`awesome!`
`16:44.28`	`RQ`	`Thanatermesis: i mean, i've just got your message about the AKL mirror. The file disappeared this morning, i'm trying to investigate it now.`
`16:44.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville ok, I need to make a test for change your xchat in your personal language selected (english?), you like are my beta-tester ?`
`16:45.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`aaaah, ok, im not remember your nick -> akl ;)`
`16:45.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, RQ`
`16:45.27`	`RQ`	`apache2/access.log:hki2-8-1-88.hoasnet.inet.fi - - [06/Sep/2005:08:08:49 +0300] "GET /Linux/Elive/elive-0.3.iso HTTP/1.1" 200 676931584 "http://www.e`
`16:45.30`	`RQ`	`livecd.org/gb/Download/index.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Firefox/1.0.6"`
`16:45.33`	`RQ`	`apache2/access.log:195.58.27.66 - - [06/Sep/2005:08:35:55 +0300] "GET /Linux/Elive/elive-0.3.iso HTTP/1.1" 404 285 "http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Downloa`
`16:45.36`	`RQ`	`d/index.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru-RU; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050318 Firefox/1.0.2"`
`16:45.39`	`RQ`	`interesting...`
`16:45.55`	`roxville`	`ok Thanatermesis !!`
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`16:46.16`	`roxville`	`maybe i can just reinstall xchat?`
`16:46.21`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
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`16:46.37`	`Elive_user`	`i just downloaded some themes, and, i can't find them`
`16:47.28`	`Thanatermesis_`	`blerk isp`
`16:48.15`	`azzazus`	`?`
`16:48.41`	`Thanatermesis_`	`my conection have a bad isp ;)`
`16:50.38`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, half is in english (settings and such) and if i click on a user to get ID it's in spanish`
`16:52.15`	`azzazus`	`how do i change the keymap?`
`16:53.37`	`Thanatermesis_`	`azzazus keybconfig ?`
`16:53.45`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es half is in english (settings and such) and if i click on a user to get ID it's in spanish`
`16:54.22`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ok roxville , give me a minutes and Im try to solve this directly and test with you, I need to finish to read the lot of emails lol`
`16:54.42`	`roxville`	`no problem dude!`
`16:59.03`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hummm... a greek email νος Βαρελ :/`
`17:00.09`	`roxville`	`apt x en es the menu editor works great! now i just have to remember what i install when i go on a rampage`
`17:00.40`	`roxville`	`greek huh? well, with a nick like yours...i thought your were greek too, at first`
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`17:03.53`	`samuel`	`sup all`
`17:04.06`	`samuel`	`how do i change the keyboard layout`
`17:04.07`	`samuel`	`?`
`17:04.37`	`samuel`	`i changed in XF86config-4 from "uk" to "es" but nothing seems to have changed`
`17:04.43`	`samuel`	`any ideas plz?`
`17:04.56`	`roxville`	`why es?`
`17:05.02`	`sinplomo`	`samuel restart x server :)`
`17:05.21`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, did that`
`17:05.29`	`samuel`	`thanks, but no apparent luck`
`17:05.45`	`sinplomo`	`setxkbmap es`
`17:05.54`	`roxville`	`dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86`
`17:05.54`	`samuel`	`trying "la" now... dont know, mabe its latinamerican?`
`17:05.58`	`DaSkreech`	`How do I change the screen resolution?`
`17:05.58`	`elive-bot`	`DaSkreech: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`17:06.15`	`sinplomo`	`setxkbmap es <= try that samuel`
`17:06.19`	`roxville`	`samuel what lang do you want to use?`
`17:06.42`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, gracias`
`17:06.49`	`sinplomo`	`de nada samuel`
`17:06.53`	`samuel`	`roxville, espa;ol`
`17:06.54`	`DaSkreech`	`elive-bot: So I need to reboot`
`17:07.00`	`samuel`	`:)`
`17:07.01`	`DaSkreech`	`Oh wait thats a bot`
`17:07.05`	`DaSkreech`	`:-)`
`17:07.07`	`samuel`	`espa�ol on another computer`
`17:07.16`	`samuel`	`not this one, this one is perfect now`
`17:07.21`	`roxville`	`ok samuel :)`
`17:08.12`	`roxville`	`wish my spanish was better (better=existant)`
`17:10.41`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis_: i downloaded some themes from synaptic, where are they saved?`
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`17:11.32`	`roxville`	`azzazus, make sure they do NOT have the debian symbol in front of them`
`17:12.16`	`roxville`	`scroll down to the "elive" section and do those`
`17:12.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus looks apt`
`17:12.21`	`sinplomo`	`azzazus e16 themes ? e17 themes ?`
`17:12.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt e17-themes`
`17:12.29`	`apt`	`methinks e17-themes is if you have installed any themes of e17 but not works, only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and works`
`17:12.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`or look the FAQ azzazus ;) it are updated with this`
`17:13.00`	`neighborlee`	`just wondering..is supermount (autofs ?) installed out of box,,also of more importance what about a system update utility to stay informed of security/app updates ? ;-)`
`17:13.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es just wondering..is supermount (autofs ?) installed out of box,,also of more importance what about a system update utility to stay informed of security/app updates ?`
`17:13.36`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: great jobs with elive ;)`
`17:13.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanks captainigloo :)`
`17:14.11`	`neighborlee`	`Thanatermesis, apt x en es ?`
`17:14.21`	`captainigloo`	`I have just a problem qwith the PCMCIA detection on my girlfriend laptop :/`
`17:14.36`	`azzazus`	`thanks -apt`
`17:14.54`	`samuel`	`sinplomo, gracias! perfecto :)`
`17:14.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`neighborlee Im not understand your question`
`17:15.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`captainigloo what card ?`
`17:15.05`	`sinplomo`	`samuel de nada`
`17:15.09`	`neighborlee`	`Thanatermesis, oh ok`
`17:15.25`	`captainigloo`	`no a card elive freeze just after PCMCIA detection`
`17:15.29`	`captainigloo`	`not*`
`17:15.43`	`captainigloo`	`The pcmcia slot is empty`
`17:15.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`captainigloo il block le boot avec la detection de ta carte ?`
`17:16.05`	`captainigloo`	`MDR`
`17:16.10`	`azzazus`	`can i copy and paste into eterm?`
`17:16.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt gpm`
`17:16.21`	`apt`	`A mouse server for the console and xterm.. URL: ftp://animal.unipv.it/pub/gpm/gpm-1.18.0.tar.gz`
`17:16.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah`
`17:16.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus select and paste with the middle button of the mouse`
`17:16.46`	`azzazus`	`kidoki`
`17:16.51`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: j'ai pas de carte dans les slots PCMCI il bloque juste apres avoir affiché PCMCIA detection`
`17:17.04`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: et il fait plus rien`
`17:17.14`	`neighborlee`	`Thanatermesis, I think E is stunning desktop clearly, but I was hoping ( no indication of certain features from website hence my questions ) that its a system easy too for linux wannabes...ie: does mount and umounting of CD happen automatically or must it be done manually....`
`17:19.00`	`captainigloo`	`neighborlee: it doesn't`
`17:19.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`captainigloo oui, je comprend`
`17:19.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est un bug sur le kernel 2.6.11 de cette version`
`17:20.08`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: ok`
`17:20.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`on peut rien faire par le moment pour ce portable, seulement atendre une nouvelle release avec le kernel plus actualisée ou un nouveaux kernel`
`17:20.31`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis 2.6.13 == udev`
`17:20.33`	`sinplomo`	`xDDD`
`17:20.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`:PPPPP`
`17:20.38`	`neighborlee`	`captainigloo, ok`
`17:21.06`	`neighborlee`	`captainigloo, what about a system update utility like what ubuntu or say fedora has with up2date..anything in place or maybe planned ?`
`17:22.13`	`captainigloo`	`neighborlee: like synaptic ?`
`17:22.17`	`neighborlee`	`captainigloo, hm also on the autofs front..nothing in place but is it planned...if elive becomes popular one would hope it would address needs of all users and not just those happy with command line which is beginning to be less and less ( people just want things to work)`
`17:22.21`	`neighborlee`	`captainigloo, no`
`17:22.39`	`neighborlee`	`captainigloo, synaptic on its own does not inform you of needed updates it just installs/updates them`
`17:22.48`	`captainigloo`	`neighborlee: yes ok`
`17:22.54`	`neighborlee`	`captainigloo, I mean like a panel applet notifier like ubuntu and fedora, suse and mandrake us`
`17:22.56`	`neighborlee`	`use`
`17:23.00`	`captainigloo`	`apt-get update/apt-get upfrade`
`17:23.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok roxville , I have time for look this, give me a second, Im prepair a modified elive-skel package...`
`17:23.07`	`captainigloo`	`neighborlee: yes I see`
`17:23.26`	`neighborlee`	`kewl`
`17:23.31`	`captainigloo`	`neighborlee: apt-get update apt-get upgrade work good`
`17:23.36`	`roxville`	`ok Thanatermesis`
`17:25.09`	`captainigloo`	`neighborlee: It could be donne with some e modules`
`17:25.21`	`captainigloo`	`but this modules must be developped`
`17:25.33`	`RQ`	`Thanatermesis: i'm redownloading the image now. Seems like a bunch of files have simply vanished from the server`
`17:26.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok RQ , no problem`
`17:27.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh RQ , I have received a mail from one person to have the download "stop" in any time.. Im verified the mirrors but don't look this problem.. its posible to are AKL when works bad?`
`17:27.20`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: do you need help for the installer or any devs ?`
`17:27.45`	`RQ`	`Thanatermesis: probably.`
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`17:27.57`	`RQ`	`that server is quite old....`
`17:28.01`	`RQ`	`hmm`
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`17:28.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`posible captainigloo , but for this moments I need to repair another more important points, but if I need help, I call to you ;) thanks`
`17:28.51`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: ok :)`
`17:30.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville if I call your nickname, do you have a sound playing ?`
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`17:31.22`	`roxville`	`yes Thanatermesis , i do`
`17:31.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`17:31.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`accept the file roxville`
`17:32.13`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis, what was wrong with xconf?`
`17:32.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus very posible only in e16`
`17:33.12`	`roxville`	`ok...`
`17:33.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville ? accept the DCC file sending`
`17:34.14`	`roxville`	`there is none`
`17:34.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`--- Envío DCC elive-skel_0.4-7elive3_i386.deb para roxville abortado.`
`17:34.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`--- Ofrece elive-skel_0.4-7elive3_i386.deb a roxville`
`17:35.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville close your xchat and re-enter`
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`17:38.55`	`felix`	`roxville: "restart your ircclient".... my god, is your irc client windows based?`
`17:39.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`17:40.18`	`samuel`	`se puede usar mountapp para montar/desmontar CDs?`
`17:40.26`	`samuel`	`parece que no hace nada`
`17:40.43`	`samuel`	`y tengo que su, mount.... cada vez que quiero montar un cd`
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`17:44.51`	`samuel`	`hay manera de automount en elive?`
`17:45.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel hazlo con evidence ;)`
`17:45.06`	`samuel`	`como en gnome? o no se puede en enlightenment?`
`17:45.24`	`samuel`	`Thanatermesis, TIENE que ser automount....`
`17:45.34`	`samuel`	`no soy tan inutil yo`
`17:45.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`17:45.46`	`samuel`	`pero es un amigo que afuerzas lo quiere automount`
`17:48.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`samuel nunca e necesitado automount, nisiquiera se como funciona, de que se trata? va en el kernel o es una aplicacion ?`
`17:49.05`	`samuel`	`pues en gnome es HAL que le pasa todo a gnome y gnome lo monta automaticamente`
`17:49.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
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`17:51.12`	`samuel`	`Hardware Abstraction Layer`
`17:51.34`	`samuel`	`la verdad no se mucho mas que eso`
`17:51.37`	`samuel`	`:(`
`17:51.38`	`samuel`	`sorrys`
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`17:55.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville you have a problem with DCC ?`
`17:56.28`	`San`	`is it possible that not all apps get minimised to the Ibox?`
`17:56.43`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, so it seems...could you try again?`
`17:56.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`posible`
`17:56.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`try the default theme San`
`17:57.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es so it seems...could you try again?`
`17:57.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`--- Ofrece elive-skel_0.4-7elive3_i386.deb a roxville`
`17:57.31`	`San`	`trying the default theme`
`17:57.39`	`San`	`(of course, the elive theme is much prettier ;))`
`17:57.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`17:58.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville Im sending you a file... you don't look the windows for accept the file ?`
`17:58.41`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i have enabled auto-accept, and it still doen's do it`
`17:59.22`	`San`	`nah, same thing...when I look in the list of windows it doesn't have an idon, doe it doesn't get minimised. Shame. Is theer a taskbar equivalent?`
`17:59.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, im not sure of this problem, is posible to are e17...`
`17:59.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`captainigloo tu a vu ça ¿?`
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`18:00.19`	`alquemont`	`wenas`
`18:00.19`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: voir koi ?`
`18:00.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`captainigloo les aplications sur e17 il se minimize pas sur le ibox, ça te dit quelque chose ?`
`18:01.52`	`San`	`French`
`18:01.58`	`San`	`pas toutes les applications`
`18:02.22`	`San`	`gaim minimise, mais synaptic par example pas`
`18:02.39`	`San`	`been ages since my last French lessons..`
`18:04.23`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: ca fonctionne tres bien chez moi`
`18:04.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`captainigloo sur elive ?`
`18:04.47`	`captainigloo`	`ah attend je regarde`
`18:04.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`je croix que xmms il minisait pas non-plus`
`18:04.54`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, the window does not pop up when you try to send file... send to repo maybe? or just for me?`
`18:05.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville try to send me a file, i need to understand the problem`
`18:05.19`	`captainigloo`	`su`
`18:05.21`	`captainigloo`	`d2qvptc`
`18:05.24`	`San`	`synaptic, le control panel, des choses comme ca...irc, gaim et firefox, ca marche`
`18:05.28`	`roxville`	`ok`
`18:05.36`	`captainigloo`	`arf another root password to change :S`
`18:05.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDDDDD`
`18:05.49`	`azzazus`	`can one automatically populate the app menu?`
`18:07.00`	`San`	`It sure is beautiful though...`
`18:07.03`	`San`	`AND Belgian`
`18:07.03`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: yes Synaptic donesn't minimize`
`18:07.04`	`San`	`woot`
`18:07.44`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: freench could be the defautl choice for elive grub menu :P`
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`18:08.35`	`San`	`Evidence doesn't minimise either`
`18:08.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, captainigloo ça peut ce devoire a qoi? un movais eap ?`
`18:08.54`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: no idea`
`18:09.19`	`San`	`and the control panel`
`18:09.25`	`captainigloo`	`Maybe because synaptic is execute with the root privileges`
`18:09.57`	`San`	`all of them?`
`18:10.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`I need to re-make the icons for look the problem`
`18:10.06`	`San`	`control panel and evidence too?`
`18:11.28`	`captainigloo`	`San: I suppose ....`
`18:12.04`	`captainigloo`	`when I lounch an application from a terminal, the windows does'nt minimize in the Ibox`
`18:12.21`	`San`	`I reported my first bug!`
`18:12.24`	`San`	`celebrations!`
`18:12.28`	`captainigloo`	`but the same app launch from eapp minimize`
`18:12.35`	`captainigloo`	`San: :)`
`18:12.38`	`roxville`	`i gotta go, see you later! sorry!!`
`18:13.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, captainigloo tu dit que si tu le lance from les icones il marche ?`
`18:13.50`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: oui`
`18:13.52`	`San`	`pas tous`
`18:13.56`	`captainigloo`	`mais entice ne marche pas`
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`18:14.03`	`captainigloo`	`non plus`
`18:14.10`	`captainigloo`	`lut Elive_user3 :P`
`18:14.11`	`San`	`si je lance le control panel from l'icone, ca ne marche pas`
`18:14.25`	`San`	`et evidence`
`18:15.03`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: whan I lounch synaptic from the menu, and minimize it, the app deseaper for ever`
`18:15.11`	`captainigloo`	`....`
`18:15.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`18:15.26`	`San`	`and ever ;)`
`18:15.31`	`captainigloo`	`lol :P`
`18:15.52`	`San`	`bon, I'm off. See you all later :)`
`18:16.05`	`Elive_user3`	`Thanatermesis, I can't minimize windows in the Ibox`
`18:16.59`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: je vais manger :)`
`18:17.02`	`captainigloo`	`@+`
`18:17.05`	`captainigloo`	`bye all`
`18:17.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`merci captainigloo`
`18:17.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, Elive_user3 , give me a minute..`
`18:17.26`	`captainigloo`	`Thanatermesis: de nada`
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`18:38.11`	`woodyst`	`hola Thanatermesis`
`18:38.17`	`woodyst`	`sab�a que te encontrar�a aqu�`
`18:38.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`hombreee`
`18:38.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`jejeje`
`18:38.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`que tal ?`
`18:38.30`	`woodyst`	`cual es el idioma de este canal?`
`18:38.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`multi-idioma ;)`
`18:38.56`	`woodyst`	`vale, pues he mirado elive y es muy bonito`
`18:39.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user Elive_user2 Elive_user3 please changer your nickname for the posibility of another persons enter in the channel`
`18:39.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias :)`
`18:39.45`	`woodyst`	`Thanatermesis: quiz� te podr�a echar una mano con el soporte de radeon, que no est� muy pulido`
`18:40.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues no iria mal`
`18:40.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero alli hay un pequeño problema`
`18:40.35`	`woodyst`	`dime`
`18:40.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque e incluido el soporte para nvidia`
`18:40.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`y creo que escriben los mismos ficheros de glx nvidia y radeon`
`18:41.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`asi que no tengo idea como se podria hacer, sabes lo que quiero decir ?`
`18:41.04`	`woodyst`	`pueden convivir perfectamente. Ahora a m� se me arranca como vesa`
`18:41.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`tambien hay un pequeño bug de autodeteccion (jodidos scripts de knoppix...), que a mucha gente le da 640x480`
`18:41.23`	`woodyst`	`si, pero gentoo tiene un sistema muy elegante`
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`18:42.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno si, pero no tiene nada que ver con una gentoo... mas bien con una ethc`
`18:42.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`etch`
`18:43.35`	`woodyst`	`en gentoo hay un peque�o script llamado opengl-update que te mueve los libGL y los m�dulos de X de un directorio /usr/lib/nosequ�`
`18:43.51`	`woodyst`	`ser�a interesante pas�rtelo para que lo veas, lo que puede ser muy �til`
`18:43.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`18:44.22`	`woodyst`	`Thanatermesis: est�s en pebrot?`
`18:44.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`puf, eso me suena a mucho curro`
`18:44.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:44.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, pero ni lo miro, lo tengo de lado en una consola remota xD`
`18:44.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah no, se colgó (que raro xD)`
`18:44.48`	`woodyst`	`lo digo por pasarte un fichero`
`18:44.53`	`woodyst`	`funcionar�?`
`18:45.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, pues no lo se`
`18:45.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`pasalo por el xchat`
`18:45.39`	`woodyst`	`es que ahora estoy actualizando X`
`18:46.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`18:46.14`	`woodyst`	`te lo env�o por correo?`
`18:46.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`no se como se mandaba por consola`
`18:46.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, mandalo por alli`
`18:46.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`thanatermesis.elive de gmail`
`18:46.30`	`woodyst`	`qu� email?`
`18:47.02`	`woodyst`	`vale`
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`18:49.04`	`woodyst`	`ya est�, dime si te es de utilidad`
`18:49.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, voy a echarle un ojo`
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`18:51.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`18:51.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya veo`
`18:51.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`de echo es algo muy simple`
`18:51.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`se basa practicamente en cambiarle el prefix a las compilaciones y poco mas, no ?`
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`18:51.48`	`woodyst`	`Y copia libGL.so.xxx y otros a /usr/lib`
`18:52.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues si, esta bastante interesante si...`
`18:52.20`	`woodyst`	`funciona perfectamente en gentoo para Ati-dri, nVidia, Ati fglrx, etc`
`18:52.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu ping`
`18:52.31`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, pong`
`18:52.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero por otro lado hay otro problema que yo no acabo de entender porque no uso ati`
`18:52.38`	`woodyst`	`es muy sencillo`
`18:52.41`	`woodyst`	`dime`
`18:53.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`por lo visto los drivers oficiales son una puta mierda pincháa en un palo pagadas por MS para que salgan malas y la gente diga que les va mejor windows que linux (en juegos y tal)`
`18:53.20`	`woodyst`	`Thanatermesis: es mas complicado que eso`
`18:53.30`	`woodyst`	`En linux existen 3 drivers diferentes para Ati`
`18:53.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`es que otra razon no le encuentro vaya :)`
`18:53.39`	`woodyst`	`1: DRI`
`18:54.08`	`woodyst`	`son open-source y van de maravilla, pero salen con cada xorg, por lo que van algo retrasados en las versiones actuales`
`18:54.10`	`felix`	`sinatra`
`18:54.11`	`elive-bot`	`felix: Start spreading the news!, I'm leaving today!, I want to be a part of it!.... NEW YORK! NEW YORK!`
`18:55.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:55.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`woodyst mmmh, pero hablas de los oficiales alli ?`
`18:56.29`	`woodyst`	`Thanatermesis: entra en #woodyst`
`18:56.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`18:56.57`	`_reliver_`	`es interessante, woodyst`
`18:58.33`	`woodyst`	`y son algo mejores que los dri pero quien quiera saber sobre lo de ati que entre en #woodyst, que as� no contaminamos el canal`
`19:00.16`	`_reliver_`	`#woodyst`
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`19:25.04`	`felix`	`jamiroquai`
`19:25.09`	`felix`	`cosmic girl`
`19:25.13`	`felix`	`:-/`
`19:25.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`2pac shakur`
`19:25.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`19:25.31`	`felix`	`a ver`
`19:25.34`	`elive-bot`	`felix: Sends me into hyperspace!... when I see her pretty face!`
`19:25.39`	`felix`	`hehe!`
`19:25.42`	`felix`	`bieeen`
`19:26.13`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis 2pac shakur <= xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`19:27.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix viste lo que te puse en #debian-es ? n oes que me haga falta ahora mismo... pero como esta el tema ?`
`19:27.33`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: no s� qu� cosa me est�s pidiendo que no te d� :)`
`19:27.39`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: as� que refrescame un poco la memoria`
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`19:28.01`	`alquemont`	`00Reproductor: 14( 07xmms 1.2.10 14) 00Volumen:14 14(07 55% 14) 00Titulo: 14(07 Sven van Hees - Suspension on disbelief 14) 00Tiempo: 14(07 0:19/4:21 (7%) 14) 00Calidad: 14(07 07256 kbit/s 14-07 44100 Hz 14)`
`19:28.04`	`alquemont`	`up`
`19:28.11`	`alquemont`	`perdon iba para otro canal`
`19:28.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`19:29.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix pues mira, supongamos que quieres modificar la palabra: Driver "vesa" del XF86Config-4, ok, pero hay diferentes secciones, cada una de ellas con un tal "driver", lo suyo seria modificar las cosas "por" secciones, osea, modificar algo de ESTA seccion.... como esta ese tema ?`
`19:31.12`	`felix`	`alquemont: la pr�xima vez que te equivoques de canal le pedir� al administrador que te saque de patitas a la calle`
`19:31.47`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: "lo suyo"?`
`19:32.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo suyo ?`
`19:32.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix xD`
`19:33.06`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: "... con un tal "driver", lo suyo seria modificar las cosas ..."`
`19:33.14`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: qu� quer�s decir con "lo suyo"?`
`19:34.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`19:35.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`cada seccion (monitor, targeta, teclado...), tiene una palabra "driver" en ellas...`
`19:35.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo que estaria bien es modificar las cosas POR secciones`
`19:35.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`y no que se cambien "todas las paslabras" Driver de cada seccion`
`19:37.24`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: vos lo que quer�s hacer es un configurador de X ?`
`19:37.36`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: algo a lo que le digas, bueno dame tal cosa, pon� tal otra y tal?`
`19:37.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`exacto ! :)`
`19:37.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje`
`19:37.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`si claro`
`19:38.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`en sed lo podria hacer... pero es que el fichero xfree de conf es un "poco" mas complejo que un simple sed...`
`19:38.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`supongo que lo mejor es poder editar las cosas por secciones sin mas, ya que a partir de alli cada cosa es perfectamente accesible teniendo solo esa seccion`
`19:38.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`por lo visto el dpkg-reconfigure va como el culo :/`
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`19:42.26`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: podr�amos ver de hacer algo, pero por el momento no tengo un segundo de tiempo... no creo que sea demasiado dif�cil`
`19:42.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`no te preocupes felix , no lo necesito "ahora mismo", pero lo necesitare... solo queria guiarme un poco...`
`19:43.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`la verdad, habria que ver comoe stan echos de las otras formas`
`19:43.15`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: s�, creo que se puede hacer`
`19:43.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`hay varios programas que configuran las X`
`19:43.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero no se que seria lo mejor...`
`19:43.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`en todo caso awk es muy potente para manipulacion de texto`
`19:43.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero awk es peor que el japones xD`
`19:44.09`	`felix`	`JAjAJaj`
`19:44.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso eso... fuera, estoy por botar al 3º... xD`
`19:47.26`	`alquemont`	`re`
`19:49.06`	`alquemont`	`Thanatermesis, ¿como es que metisteis el xfe ?`
`19:49.16`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es idle`
`19:49.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`alquemont como alternativa a evidence xD`
`19:49.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`es muy rapido, ligero y pontente`
`19:50.03`	`alquemont`	`¿conoces rox-filer?`
`19:50.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, pero es mas feo que xfe`
`19:50.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`19:50.51`	`alquemont`	`:)`
`19:50.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`nose, tiene un funcionamiento muy raro que no me acaba de convencer`
`19:50.56`	`alquemont`	`pa gustos`
`19:50.57`	`alquemont`	`:)`
`19:51.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`digamos que xfe es la alternativa...`
`19:51.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`y que hay mas simple y tonto que xfe ? ;)`
`19:51.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`es muy facil de usar, y eso es bueno`
`19:51.27`	`alquemont`	`eso sip :)`
`19:51.51`	`alquemont`	`¿porque muy raro ?`
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`20:01.44`	`n3ur0`	`hello party people`
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`20:02.01`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, ping`
`20:02.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`pong`
`20:02.20`	`n3ur0`	`apt_ how to partition hard disk`
`20:02.24`	`nomed`	`puedo en english ?`
`20:02.53`	`nomed`	`tiengo aqui el cd de elive`
`20:03.17`	`nomed`	`si quieres podemos provar una cosa`
`20:03.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`n3ur0 in liveCD mode? launch the installer ;)`
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`20:03.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed`
`20:03.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`tienes el mismo problema en elive con tu maquina por la resolucion ?`
`20:03.47`	`nomed`	`no yo no`
`20:03.55`	`n3ur0`	`ah, that easy? here i was looking for qtparted or some such`
`20:03.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`20:04.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`espera, yo tengo una maquina que tiene ese problema con Elive...`
`20:04.07`	`nomed`	`pero tu has dicho que tienes una maquina con este problema`
`20:04.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`argh! no tengo Elive en CD... un momento, voy a quemar un CD...`
`20:04.23`	`alquemont`	`xDD`
`20:04.26`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, una iso es igual`
`20:04.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`asi lo pruebo en la maquina 3 ;)`
`20:05.07`	`nomed`	`mount -o loop elive-0.3.iso /donde/quieres :)`
`20:05.27`	`n3ur0`	`where is the installer located, i forgot`
`20:06.09`	`n3ur0`	`i've seen it`
`20:06.23`	`n3ur0`	`but my short term is totaly shot`
`20:06.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`si nomed , pero bueno, asi lo probamos "en vivo y con el problema dado" ;)`
`20:07.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`n3ur0 partitionmorpher`
`20:07.28`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, si en la maquina 3 :) tienes linux es igual porque vamos a trabajar en chroot ..`
`20:07.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed que tal funciona partitionmorpher IYHO ?`
`20:08.14`	`nomed`	`en verdad lo he usato un rato .. gparted ma gustava mas`
`20:08.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`20:08.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`los paquetes los terminaste ?`
`20:09.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`ocupa mucho ?`
`20:09.09`	`nomed`	`nada`
`20:09.15`	`nomed`	`muy muy poco`
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`20:09.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfecto :)`
`20:09.27`	`NoKnown`	`wenasss`
`20:09.37`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`20:09.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`nas Enlighted xD`
`20:09.53`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: mola, me han subido la velocidad de subida a 512`
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`20:09.55`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:09.59`	`St-`	`hi`
`20:09.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`20:10.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi St-`
`20:10.06`	`Enlighted`	`ahora tengo 3,5 megas/512`
`20:10.07`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, ;)a big men !! ;)`
`20:10.32`	`St-`	`sorry but after installation to hd, the openoffice where is ? not run ...`
`20:10.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer Enlighted , creo que alli me superas, y eso que estoy en la captial de europa xD`
`20:10.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`St-`
`20:10.50`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: es que jazztel es mucho jazztel`
`20:10.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`accept DCC St-`
`20:10.52`	`Enlighted`	`jajaja`
`20:10.55`	`St-`	`what is ?`
`20:11.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- you are in Elive in this machine ?`
`20:11.09`	`St-`	`i've 56k lol`
`20:11.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, no problem`
`20:11.23`	`St-`	`now win :\| modem problems...`
`20:11.33`	`Enlighted`	`St-: :D`
`20:11.33`	`St-`	`what is this .deb ?`
`20:11.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`copy this package in your elive installation and oo2 works good after "elive-skel upgrade" and select ".e"`
`20:11.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted estas en elive ?`
`20:12.01`	`St-`	`eheh Enlighted flat green :P free 56k ! :P`
`20:12.14`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: windows con kvirc xD`
`20:12.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer`
`20:12.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`es que nadie esta en elive ?`
`20:12.38`	`Enlighted`	`es k toi bajando ciertos archivos del emule que tienen pocas fuentes, y que la mayoria van por Kad`
`20:12.48`	`Enlighted`	`y si no uso un cliente con Kad.......me como los mocos`
`20:12.53`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:12.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA you are in elive ?`
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`20:13.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted te sorprenderia la potencia de limewire ;)`
`20:13.24`	`alquemont`	`Enlighted, ya puedes compilar amule con kad :)`
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`20:13.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`alquemont estas en elive ?`
`20:13.36`	`alquemont`	`en debian`
`20:13.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer`
`20:13.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`necesito alguien en elive`
`20:13.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh`
`20:13.45`	`felix`	`JAjAJJAjAJAjaJAJa`
`20:13.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 hi!`
`20:13.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 I need you`
`20:13.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`you don't go`
`20:14.03`	`felix`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:14.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 hola? bonjour ?`
`20:14.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`20:14.20`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: juas`
`20:14.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`n3ur0 you are in elive, yes ?`
`20:14.28`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, que pasa ?`
`20:14.31`	`nomed`	`:D`
`20:14.35`	`Enlighted`	`alquemont: ya, pero no me apetece xD`
`20:14.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed quiero probar si funciona el recibo de archivos en elive`
`20:14.47`	`Enlighted`	`ademas esta mas avanzado eld esarrollo de kad del emule`
`20:14.50`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`20:14.54`	`felix`	`jJaJAJAJAJajajajajujaujaujaujaujaujaujaujaujaujaujauja`
`20:14.58`	`Enlighted`	`eh`
`20:14.58`	`alquemont`	`tu mismo Enlighted , te lo decia por si no lo sabias :)`
`20:14.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`en xchat que diga`
`20:15.04`	`Enlighted`	`yo toi en windows TEMPORALMENTE`
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`20:15.06`	`Enlighted`	`k conste`
`20:15.07`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
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`20:15.09`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, therefore U are forgotten something to you? this cosè one pezza? many other applications do not leave, why?`
`20:15.22`	`alquemont`	`si si`
`20:15.25`	`alquemont`	`eso dicen todos`
`20:15.26`	`alquemont`	`xDDD`
`20:15.31`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, therefore U are forgotten something to you? this is patch ?? many other applications do not leave, why?`
`20:15.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es therefore U are forgotten something to you? this is patch ?? many other applications do not leave, why?`
`20:15.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`20:16.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- Thanatermesis with tarzanian english dont understand St-`
`20:16.13`	`St-`	`sorry google translation ;)`
`20:16.15`	`St-`	`lol`
`20:16.26`	`St-`	`lol tarzanian english AUSHauhsuahushauhsuah`
`20:16.40`	`Enlighted`	`no`
`20:16.44`	`Enlighted`	`its called babelfish`
`20:16.46`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`20:16.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`20:16.46`	`felix`	`St-: JAjAJAJAJAJAJAJajajaja`
`20:16.46`	`nomed`	`St-, italian?`
`20:16.51`	`St-`	`sorry, why don't run OO ?`
`20:17.00`	`Enlighted`	`bad shortcuts`
`20:17.02`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`20:17.04`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, pong`
`20:17.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- upgrade your .e config and runs ok ;)`
`20:17.13`	`felix`	`CGA: ack`
`20:17.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA you are in elive ?`
`20:17.19`	`CGA`	`ciao felix`
`20:17.24`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, nope`
`20:17.25`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: ARE YOU in elive?`
`20:17.29`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: are YOU in elive?`
`20:17.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes felix !`
`20:17.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh`
`20:17.33`	`Enlighted`	`LOL!`
`20:17.35`	`CGA`	`babelfish == Tarzan`
`20:17.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im in elive :D`
`20:17.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, any person send me a file from dcc please ?`
`20:17.51`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: que situacion mas embarazosa...`
`20:17.54`	`Enlighted`	`jajajaja`
`20:17.56`	`St-`	`apt x it es cosa fa questo .deb ? sono curioso`
`20:18.06`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis te estoy enviando un file`
`20:18.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- dpkg -i file.deb`
`20:18.16`	`nomed`	`St-, puoi parlare italiano io prova a fare il babelfish`
`20:18.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a debian package`
`20:18.25`	`nomed`	`s/prova/provo`
`20:18.40`	`St-`	`nomed, parli italiano ?`
`20:18.41`	`CGA`	`nomed, dici a me?`
`20:18.46`	`nomed`	`sono`
`20:18.49`	`St-`	`what is babelfish ?`
`20:18.50`	`alquemont`	`Thanatermesis, ¿pillas?`
`20:18.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`io no parlare italiano pero cappiche molto than engliso comparatte`
`20:19.08`	`n3ur0`	`babel fish is a translator type thing`
`20:19.16`	`St-`	`lol`
`20:19.38`	`n3ur0`	`type in a phrase in one language and you can have it out put'd into another`
`20:19.41`	`nomed`	`eheh`
`20:19.46`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, http://www.linux.it/~cga/wallpapers/Moo.tar.gz`
`20:19.48`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, ITALIANO not itialiano`
`20:20.16`	`St-`	`qualcuno parla italiano ? ;)`
`20:20.19`	`CGA`	`io`
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`20:20.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol CGA , apt-get moo ;)`
`20:20.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`try`
`20:20.54`	`CGA`	`i'm on ubuntu`
`20:20.59`	`CGA`	`err`
`20:21.02`	`St-`	`ciao CGA fai parte di ILS ;) figo, cazzo di google non mi traduce na mazza, dicevo a Thanatermesis come mai non mi parte OpenOffice dopo che ho fatto elive2hd ;)`
`20:21.03`	`CGA`	`sorry my mistake`
`20:21.36`	`CGA`	`St-, devi fare ln -sf /usr/bin/oowriter /usr/binoowriter2`
`20:21.45`	`CGA`	`cazz ho sbagiato`
`20:21.49`	`CGA`	`aspetta`
`20:21.54`	`St-`	`ok ho capito`
`20:21.56`	`St-`	`tutto qui ?`
`20:22.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol St- io provare questo fichero in tuvo Elive instalatta e le oo2 fonctionare perfetti`
`20:22.10`	`St-`	`è stato una loro dimenticanza`
`20:22.23`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, don't speak fine italiano :O`
`20:22.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`20:22.33`	`St-`	`eheheh :P`
`20:22.44`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, = italiano alla tarzan !!`
`20:22.45`	`CGA`	`St-, aspetta che controllo`
`20:22.49`	`sinplomo`	`<-- italiano < /denull`
`20:22.54`	`sinplomo`	`<-- italiano < /dev/null`
`20:23.35`	`CGA`	`ln -s /usr/bin/oowriter /usr/bin/oowriter2`
`20:24.06`	`St-`	`CGA, cosa ne pensi di elive ? io devo dire che abituato a gnome/fluxbox mi ha sbalordito questo E16 ..`
`20:24.41`	`CGA`	`E16 ma ancor di + E17 sono fenomenali`
`20:24.49`	`sinplomo`	`apt speaks italian ?`
`20:24.52`	`CGA`	`spero di installarli presto`
`20:25.11`	`CGA`	`St-, elive è anche molto ben fatta per essere una 0.3`
`20:25.14`	`St-`	`non li hai ancora provati ?`
`20:25.25`	`CGA`	`si ho provato elive swin dalla 0.1`
`20:25.38`	`St-`	`infatti ho fatto subito i complimenti a Thanatermesis ;)`
`20:26.23`	`St-`	`cmq non capisco perchè xo'sul mio schermo si vede tutto troppo piccolo, e se cambio risoluzione tutto diventa no schifo`
`20:26.30`	`St-`	`che mi dici ?`
`20:27.19`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, i think you should REALLY ADD some things to the tuning page`
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`20:27.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`alguien me puede mandar un fichero ?`
`20:27.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA what think? recomend me :)`
`20:27.37`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, the things explained in this article: http://flaviostechnotalk.com/wordpress/index.php/2005/09/04/elive-03-review/ they are important tunings for Elive after install on HD`
`20:27.54`	`CGA`	`very imprtant`
`20:28.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmh, yes, but the oo2 are included in the "tunning", maybe one title ONLY for the oo2 ?`
`20:28.36`	`St-`	`CGA, è tuo questa elive-03-reviw ?`
`20:28.47`	`CGA`	`and you should make clear that the tunings are for ppl that have installed Elive on HD and also make clear that the tunings are ofr Elive 0.3 and that you will close those bug with the next vcersion`
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`20:29.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es and you should make clear that the tunings are for ppl that have installed Elive on HD and also make clear that the tunings are ofr Elive 0.3 and that you will close those bug with the next vcersion`
`20:29.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`you can posible send me a file from dcc ?`
`20:29.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`any file`
`20:29.53`	`CGA`	`i have my port blocked`
`20:29.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`20:30.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix manda dcc ?`
`20:30.07`	`alquemont`	`Thanatermesis, ¿te mando yo?`
`20:30.08`	`St-`	`faccio io CGA`
`20:30.09`	`St-`	`OK ?`
`20:30.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`20:30.12`	`St-`	`mi rendo utile`
`20:30.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`20:30.14`	`CGA`	`St-, cosa?`
`20:30.24`	`St-`	`gli devo sendare qualcosa ?`
`20:30.27`	`CGA`	`si`
`20:30.28`	`felix`	`rae topico`
`20:30.33`	`St-`	`dimmi cosa`
`20:30.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 ping`
`20:30.38`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: va`
`20:30.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`shit !`
`20:30.50`	`elive-bot`	`felix:`
`20:30.50`	`elive-bot`	`felix: topico, ca.`
`20:30.50`	`elive-bot`	`felix: (Del gr. topik**s).`
`20:30.50`	`elive-bot`	`felix: 1. adj. Perteneciente o relativo a determinado lugar.`
`20:30.51`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: listo!`
`20:30.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`DCC works good`
`20:30.53`	`St-`	`quella pagine di review ?`
`20:30.55`	`elive-bot`	`felix: 2. adj. Perteneciente o relativo a la expresion trivial o`
`20:30.55`	`elive-bot`	`felix: muy empleada.`
`20:30.55`	`elive-bot`	`felix: 3. adj. Med. Dicho de un medicamento o de su modo de`
`20:30.59`	`CGA`	`St-, no la review non è mia`
`20:31.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias felix`
`20:31.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`ol_O`
`20:31.20`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, what u want send ?`
`20:31.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- no problem, Im imagine a problem in xchat configuration for elive... but aparently works perfectly`
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`20:31.45`	`nomed`	`St-, credo abbia fatto felix`
`20:31.54`	`St-`	`k`
`20:32.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA sorry for my "multi-cron", mmmh, what recomends me to add in the tunning page ?`
`20:32.37`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, i'll prepare a file for you to put in the tuning.html`
`20:32.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfect !`
`20:32.52`	`CGA`	`=)`
`20:33.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA look the "upgrades" section, includes a /little\ description for the oo2 problem`
`20:33.15`	`CGA`	`ok`
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`20:34.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user Elive_user3 please change nickname`
`20:34.18`	`St-`	`CGA, se posso rendermi utile ;) ... io ci sono`
`20:37.37`	`CGA`	`St-, grazie ma faccio da solo, sono solo 4 righe`
`20:37.56`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, what's next Elive version? 0.4?`
`20:38.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes CGA , but not are prepaired ;)`
`20:39.48`	`CGA`	`no importa i need to wqrite the page`
`20:39.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 hello ?`
`20:39.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`20:40.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`PounK ping`
`20:40.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`RQ you are in Elive ?`
`20:40.30`	`RQ`	`Thanatermesis: what do you mean?`
`20:40.37`	`CGA`	`hey are Alive?`
`20:40.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`I need to make a test with a preson in Elive`
`20:40.42`	`CGA`	`*are you`
`20:40.46`	`RQ`	`Thanatermesis: no`
`20:40.50`	`RQ`	`i'm in OS X ;P~`
`20:40.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`20:41.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed ok, cd burned and launching elive`
`20:42.10`	`alquemont`	`chao gente`
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`20:42.35`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, ok`
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`20:47.09`	`St-`	`CGA, ho letto quella relazione su ELIVE chiarisce tutti i BUG cosa ne pensa Thanatermesis ? ;)`
`20:47.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x it es ho letto quella relazione su ELIVE chiarisce tutti i BUG cosa ne pensa Thanatermesis ?`
`20:48.01`	`St-`	`LOL`
`20:48.11`	`CGA`	`St-, sto scrivendo io quei piccoli ritocchi su un file che verrà messo online`
`20:48.22`	`St-`	`ok ;)`
`20:48.35`	`CGA`	`è da tre giorni che gli dico di farlo ma non la vogliono capire`
`20:48.43`	`St-`	`ma cazzo ci provo io`
`20:48.46`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, read this`
`20:48.50`	`St-`	`http://flaviostechnotalk.com/wordpress/index.php/2005/09/04/elive-03-review/`
`20:48.59`	`slam_laptop`	`howdy folks. i definitely should upgrade my italian - i see :-)`
`20:49.22`	`St-`	`in es: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fflaviostechnotalk.com%2Fwordpress%2Findex.php%2F2005%2F09%2F04%2Felive-03-review%2F&langpair=en%7Ces&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools`
`20:49.32`	`CGA`	`St-, l'ha già letta`
`20:49.43`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, run firefox ;)`
`20:49.56`	`St-`	`azzo e non capisce dove stanno i problemi ? ;)`
`20:50.00`	`St-`	`bhu`
`20:50.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- I know and have readed this page`
`20:50.03`	`CGA`	`St-, mi diresti dove si trova l'applòicazione OOowrite nel menù?`
`20:50.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- all this problems are fixed`
`20:50.25`	`CGA`	`not really Thanatermesis`
`20:50.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`no? what problem not are solved ?`
`20:50.50`	`St-`	`si trova in OFFICE`
`20:50.58`	`CGA`	`lemme finish my writing`
`20:51.15`	`CGA`	`St-, fra le applicazini preferite?`
`20:51.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- I have sent this file for you repair this, please read the "tunning" in the upgrade section`
`20:51.29`	`CGA`	`i red already`
`20:51.37`	`CGA`	`i'm putting some order there`
`20:51.41`	`St-`	`no CGA`
`20:52.07`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, if you like you put my file online if you don't no IT'S UP TO YOU`
`20:52.19`	`Enlighted`	`moola`
`20:52.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`kwak?`
`20:52.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es if you like you put my file online if you don't no IT'S UP TO YOU`
`20:52.40`	`Enlighted`	`at last I can see 1 mb+ internet TV channels without any cuts`
`20:52.43`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
`20:52.46`	`CGA`	`St-, mi diresti il percorso? tipo dx click--> office?`
`20:52.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es if you like you put my file online if you don't no IT'S UP TO YOU`
`20:52.53`	`St-`	`si CGA`
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`20:52.57`	`St-`	`ma di e16 o e17 ?`
`20:53.01`	`CGA`	`17`
`20:53.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`any CGA ... if you finish the file, put in your apache or similar are good, Im only copy-paste to the wyssywsyywysy of elivecd.org`
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`20:53.42`	`CGA`	`wait for me argetina!!!`
`20:53.48`	`CGA`	`ok Thanatermesis`
`20:54.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok ibox aplications minimized fixed... mmmh, needs to fix, I need to make this for 52 icons files`
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`20:58.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed , the 3 machine are prepaired with network conection for any test ;)`
`20:58.42`	`nomed`	`ok`
`20:59.12`	`nomed`	`you probably need to chroot into the base mod mount point ...`
`20:59.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, and if download simply the good file and try the new conf ?`
`21:00.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`ddc<tab> not have any match in the console`
`21:00.18`	`nomed`	`it can be a solution but you will not test it in its own enviroment`
`21:00.44`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, base module makes the autoconfig stuff then chroot into mainmod`
`21:00.47`	`nomed`	`elive`
`21:00.47`	`elive-bot`	`nomed: http://livecd.debianitas.net/news.html`
`21:01.39`	`nomed`	`what you need to do is the following :`
`21:01.54`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, are you ready?`
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`21:02.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`sorry`
`21:02.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`21:03.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, Im ready`
`21:03.12`	`nomed`	`if you want to fix this you'll need to change something in base module`
`21:03.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`21:03.51`	`nomed`	`i'm not in the live cd so just type df`
`21:03.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`but for this moments`
`21:04.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im only like to make a test for look the "good work" of the upgrade`
`21:04.13`	`nomed`	`ok`
`21:04.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, If Im boot in "debugging" or "1" mode... (in basemodule chrooted)`
`21:04.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`its posible to change this file and relaunch the scripts, yes ?`
`21:05.16`	`nomed`	`yes`
`21:05.27`	`nomed`	`you can apt-get install ddcxinfo-morphix`
`21:05.42`	`nomed`	`and just run ddcxinfo-knoppix -modes`
`21:05.58`	`nomed`	`to see if it's ok .. even if you're not in base module`
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`21:06.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es to see if it's ok .. even if you're not in base module`
`21:07.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`give me a minute..`
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`21:08.44`	`Elive_user2`	`hola`
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`21:11.12`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis,`
`21:11.14`	`St-`	`the games`
`21:11.18`	`St-`	`openunivers`
`21:11.21`	`St-`	`dont run`
`21:11.23`	`St-`	`why ?^`
`21:11.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`not installed`
`21:11.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt-get install openuniverse`
`21:11.48`	`St-`	`ehm, del it of menu :)`
`21:11.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`deleted ;)`
`21:12.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have upgraded your menus ?`
`21:12.12`	`azzazus`	`is there a p2p program in the repository?`
`21:12.13`	`St-`	`no`
`21:12.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`21:12.18`	`St-`	`another box ;)`
`21:12.37`	`Enlighted`	`Downstream 2834 Kbps (354.3 KB/sec)`
`21:12.37`	`Enlighted`	`Upstream 444 Kbps (55.5 KB/sec)`
`21:12.37`	`Enlighted`	`mooooooola, aun toi alucinando XD`
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`21:13.03`	`St-`	`nvu not installed ?`
`21:13.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`nop, included in the menu ?`
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`21:14.44`	`Nilew`	`I have two questions I hope that somone can awnser.`
`21:15.25`	`Nilew`	`1. how do I change th window focus settings? I want to be able to click anywhere in a window and focus on that.`
`21:15.54`	`Nilew`	`2. can I get the ibar from e16, the Mac osx lookalike?`
`21:16.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Nilew ask your 1º question in #e`
`21:16.23`	`Nilew`	`in what?`
`21:16.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`and the 2º question not are posible, but similar`
`21:16.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`in the #e channel for the focus`
`21:16.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`enlightenment_remote -module-load engage and select engage in the modules menu`
`21:17.43`	`Nilew`	`nice :-D`
`21:17.56`	`Nilew`	`ther it is :-D`
`21:17.58`	`St-`	`bye bye Thanatermesis ;) attend CGA ;)`
`21:18.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`bye St-`
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`21:20.54`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, parece que me funka el direct rendering ahora :D`
`21:21.03`	`damosu`	`por ahora no se me colgo la grafica`
`21:21.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`21:21.41`	`damosu`	`antes a los 10 segundos de correr el armagetron se colgaba`
`21:21.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`ala pues, a viciarse en linia con multi-players ;)`
`21:22.01`	`damosu`	`ese colega tuyo parece que controla de drivers de ati y tal`
`21:22.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`que va`
`21:22.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`este controla de todo`
`21:22.15`	`damosu`	`xDDD`
`21:22.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`es de esos hachas que ni sabemos que existen ;)`
`21:22.18`	`damosu`	`si?`
`21:22.28`	`damosu`	`joer que bueno`
`21:22.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`ese si que es un maquinón ;)`
`21:23.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`de echo... el fue quien me enseño lo que realmente era linux cuando no tenia ni idea de lo que era`
`21:23.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`un vistazo rapido en debian y fuera`
`21:23.30`	`damosu`	`anda`
`21:23.39`	`damosu`	`un vistazo rapido en debian y fuera?`
`21:23.46`	`damosu`	`eso es lu que tu sabias?`
`21:23.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`desde entonces que habia probado red-hats, mandrakes y todas esas que no convencen... probe y me quedé en debian ;)`
`21:24.07`	`damosu`	`je yo tmb`
`21:24.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo saber? xDDDD yo no sabia ni configurar las X`
`21:24.19`	`damosu`	`bueno yo probe debian de primera de todas`
`21:24.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`para entonces como no lo conseguí, pues ala, me quedé en consola durante unos años`
`21:24.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:24.28`	`damosu`	`xDDDD`
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`21:24.38`	`damosu`	`bueno yo estube dos meses en consola`
`21:24.43`	`damosu`	`pero por que queria`
`21:24.46`	`NoKnown`	`Thanatermesis:`
`21:24.52`	`damosu`	`sabia usar las x`
`21:24.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed, Im in the basemod chroot in the liveCD with the command ;) Im change this and relaunch ddcc-slsdjflkewlfñkwhe ; )`
`21:24.56`	`damosu`	`y configurarlas`
`21:25.12`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: puedes hacerme un favor?`
`21:25.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu bueno si... mas o menos, a mi me gusto y me quedé, no me preocupé de las X xD`
`21:25.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`Enlighted uff, con lo lia que estoy, pero prueba xD`
`21:25.28`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, sabes cuanto tiempo llevo yo usando linux?`
`21:25.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`cuanto ?`
`21:25.38`	`damosu`	`poos`
`21:25.51`	`damosu`	`9 o 10 meses`
`21:26.01`	`damosu`	`antes no tenia ni puta idea`
`21:26.21`	`damosu`	`siempre win`
`21:26.27`	`damosu`	`ahora ya lo abandone`
`21:26.31`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: acabo de pegar una peque�a tabla con mis velocidades`
`21:26.40`	`Enlighted`	`antes de que cerrara el irc`
`21:26.47`	`Enlighted`	`vuelvemela a pegar plz`
`21:27.00`	`Nilew`	`hehe I solved the first question on my own... yeah....`
`21:27.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`arggggggghhhhh !!! read-only fylesystem nomed !`
`21:27.23`	`nomed`	`ok`
`21:27.24`	`damosu`	`ein?`
`21:27.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu joer, pues no se te da mal ;)`
`21:27.33`	`nomed`	`are you still in elive cd`
`21:27.34`	`damosu`	`a nada`
`21:27.34`	`nomed`	`?`
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`21:27.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Enlighted> Downstream 2834 Kbps (354.3 KB/sec)`
`21:27.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Enlighted> Upstream 444 Kbps (55.5 KB/sec)`
`21:27.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Enlighted> mooooooola, aun toi alucinando XD <--- eso tambien ?`
`21:27.51`	`damosu`	`bueno la consola es la consola xD`
`21:27.58`	`damosu`	`desde que uso x ya no es lo mismo`
`21:28.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes nomed`
`21:28.04`	`damosu`	`no aprendo tanto`
`21:28.10`	`nomed`	`perfecto`
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`21:28.16`	`Nilew`	`to fix the focus settings just type:enlightenment_remote -module-load -focus-policy-set CLICK`
`21:28.17`	`nomed`	`puedes acer esto`
`21:28.22`	`nomed`	`exit from chroot`
`21:28.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed in elivecd in a machine real livecd mode and in the basemod system BEFORE the step of the mainmod`
`21:28.35`	`Enlighted`	`ala, he subido 3 kbs extra de bajada tocando los valores del RWIN windowzeros`
`21:28.37`	`Enlighted`	`mola`
`21:28.38`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`21:28.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu joer, comparate con mucha gente ;) xD`
`21:28.58`	`damosu`	`no puedo`
`21:29.00`	`damosu`	`no se`
`21:29.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed exit ? mmmh, init 2 for continue the normal boot system to enter in the mainmod ?`
`21:29.10`	`damosu`	`pasa que la gente pasa de leer`
`21:29.15`	`damosu`	`y yo me inche a leer`
`21:29.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD eso es bueno`
`21:29.24`	`damosu`	`horas y horas leyendo el man`
`21:29.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`yo tengo ese problema, leer no me sirve de nada`
`21:29.36`	`damosu`	`sino es imposible meterse en linux`
`21:29.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`21:29.44`	`damosu`	`a a mi si xDDD`
`21:29.49`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, wait .. run elive normally`
`21:29.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok Neven`
`21:29.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`ops`
`21:30.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`init 2 launched`
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`21:31.01`	`nomed`	`tell me when you're in`
`21:31.15`	`CGA`	`Thanatermesis, i'm done`
`21:31.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed , Im in`
`21:31.35`	`nomed`	`now ...`
`21:31.43`	`nomed`	`mkdir /tmp/UNION`
`21:31.48`	`nomed`	`i'm doing the same`
`21:31.57`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, el libro de c que compraste como va`
`21:32.04`	`damosu`	`esta ya en la basura?`
`21:32.09`	`damosu`	`o le falta poco xDD`
`21:32.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu en la pagina 5 aun xD`
`21:32.26`	`damosu`	`ya sabia yo :P`
`21:32.30`	`damosu`	`me daba la nariz`
`21:32.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:32.45`	`nomed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:32.52`	`damosu`	`metete con python antes Thanatermesis`
`21:33.00`	`damosu`	`mucho mejor`
`21:33.09`	`nomed`	`no se por ti ...`
`21:33.14`	`damosu`	`son complementarios python y c`
`21:33.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`one second nomed , this is a 360 Mhz + 64 MB ram machine lol`
`21:33.23`	`nomed`	`ok :)`
`21:33.29`	`damosu`	`ese es tu cacharro?`
`21:33.36`	`damosu`	`tesnologia punta xD`
`21:34.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed /media/hdc/base/morphix <-- = my cdrom device?`
`21:34.22`	`nomed`	`si`
`21:34.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`not are mounted`
`21:34.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`not <tab> available`
`21:34.41`	`nomed`	`no esta en media ..`
`21:35.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu python? bah, pra que quiero eso? encima con la necesidad que tengo de python yel tiempo que tengopara perder en el`
`21:35.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:35.11`	`damosu`	`pa aprender c`
`21:35.22`	`damosu`	`pa eso vale python`
`21:35.30`	`damosu`	`y aparte es como bash`
`21:35.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed ok /cdrom/base...`
`21:35.34`	`damosu`	`no se compila`
`21:35.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu bah, no tengo tiempo xD`
`21:35.39`	`damosu`	`pero es super potente`
`21:35.52`	`damosu`	`mucho mas que bash y casi tanto como c`
`21:35.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`para python ya tengo el pebrot xD`
`21:36.05`	`damosu`	`en algunas cosas superior a c es`
`21:36.16`	`damosu`	`pebrot?`
`21:36.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, pero a mi no me sirve`
`21:36.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`para mi, o bash o C`
`21:36.26`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, puede esser que cloop0 no lo puedes usar`
`21:36.33`	`nomed`	`cloop6 creo que si`
`21:36.37`	`damosu`	`joer te sirve pa aprender c`
`21:36.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`device busy`
`21:36.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok with 5`
`21:36.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`6`
`21:36.58`	`damosu`	`y bueno no puedes saber si te sirve o no pa otras cosas`
`21:37.06`	`damosu`	`pero claro eres un vago xDD`
`21:37.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu pero no tengo ni tiempo para parender C voy a tener para python + c xD`
`21:37.18`	`damosu`	`por eso xDD`
`21:37.37`	`damosu`	`(yo tmb soy vago :( ) xDD`
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`21:37.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
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`21:38.04`	`damosu`	`pa que vale eso?`
`21:38.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed , done`
`21:38.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu tu lanzalo xD`
`21:38.16`	`damosu`	`buenoooo`
`21:38.24`	`damosu`	`que librerias me va a cambiar`
`21:38.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`es un clinente mesenpoyas en ncurses + python muy chulo xD`
`21:38.46`	`damosu`	`o que cosas raras va a hacer`
`21:38.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que ninguna`
`21:38.52`	`damosu`	`mesenpoyas?`
`21:38.56`	`damosu`	`ein??`
`21:39.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, la mariposa esa maricona de MS`
`21:39.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`21:40.19`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, mount /dev/cloop0 /tmp/base/`
`21:40.47`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, mount /dev/cloop6 (o lo que es ) /tmp/base/`
`21:40.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`/tmp/UNION ?`
`21:40.57`	`nomed`	`un segundo`
`21:41.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`mkdir /tmp/UNION ...`
`21:41.16`	`nomed`	`lo vamos a usar en un rato`
`21:41.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`tmp/base ?`
`21:41.30`	`nomed`	`si`
`21:41.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`no tengo tmp/base, lo creo ?`
`21:41.39`	`nomed`	`si`
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`21:41.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`done`
`21:41.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`in RO`
`21:42.21`	`nomed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:42.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`losetup /dev/cloop file-clooped = modprobe cloop file=file-clooped nomed ?`
`21:43.27`	`nomed`	`umm creo que si ...`
`21:43.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`done`
`21:43.41`	`nomed`	`pero yo lo ago siempre asi`
`21:43.49`	`nomed`	`mkdir /tmp/tmp`
`21:44.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`losetup its for mount a clooped-file in the /dev/cloop ?`
`21:44.10`	`nomed`	`si`
`21:44.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`done`
`21:44.55`	`nomed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:45.13`	`nomed`	`unionctl /tmp/UNION/ --list`
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`21:45.24`	`nomed`	`/tmp/tmp (rw)`
`21:45.24`	`nomed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:45.33`	`nomed`	`chroot /tmp/UNION`
`21:45.34`	`damosu`	`me da un monton de errores el pebrot`
`21:45.48`	`damosu`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:45.49`	`damosu`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:45.49`	`damosu`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:45.49`	`damosu`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`21:46.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`arrrgh!`
`21:46.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`inionctl not exist commadn`
`21:46.44`	`damosu`	`na ya funka`
`21:46.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu eso es por el protocolo msn xD`
`21:47.07`	`damosu`	`yo no uso el msn xD`
`21:47.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed Im don't have unionctl bin :/`
`21:47.16`	`damosu`	`buno como funka esto?`
`21:47.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu /h`
`21:47.35`	`CGA`	`buonanotte a tutti`
`21:47.46`	`nomed`	`apt-get install unionfs-utils`
`21:48.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`one second (wifi card)`
`21:49.11`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, ya me funkan los drivers de ati`
`21:49.34`	`damosu`	`pasa que para cada tarjeta la configuracion debe ser especifica`
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`21:49.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`mola damosu , ya te dije que es un hacha ;) te costó mucho ?`
`21:49.54`	`damosu`	`que va`
`21:50.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`joer, pues qu emierda, no? eso noes facil de implementear en elive`
`21:50.09`	`damosu`	`ponerle una opcion al XF86Config-4`
`21:50.40`	`damosu`	`no se abria que preguntarle`
`21:50.54`	`damosu`	`a lo mejor mi conf vale pa todas`
`21:51.06`	`damosu`	`lo que tiene la mia es que es muy moderna`
`21:51.09`	`damosu`	`por eso falla`
`21:51.25`	`damosu`	`bueno muy moderna es un decir`
`21:51.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`21:51.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed , not posible chroot`
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`21:51.32`	`damosu`	`ya casi tiene dos años`
`21:51.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`not /bin/sh`
`21:52.22`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, unionctl /tmp/UNION/ --list ?`
`21:52.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`same to you`
`21:52.39`	`nomed`	`bin/bash ?`
`21:52.50`	`nomed`	`chroot /tmp/UNION /bin/bash ?`
`21:52.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`21:53.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`not files in /tmp/UNION`
`21:53.35`	`nomed`	`so you didn't mount morphix in the correct dev`
`21:53.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`ls /tmp/UNION: reading directory.: Invalid argument`
`21:53.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`21:54.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh, one second`
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`21:58.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed , base ssytem mounted in /tmp/base in a cloop -o loop mode`
`21:59.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`21:59.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`<nomed> mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/tmp/base/=ro none /tmp/UNION`
`21:59.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`<nomed> unionctl /tmp/UNION/ --add --mode rw /tmp/tmp/`
`21:59.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`<nomed> unionctl /tmp/UNION/ --list`
`21:59.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`<nomed> /tmp/tmp (rw)`
`21:59.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`<nomed> /tmp/base (r-)`
`21:59.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`<nomed> chroot /tmp/UNION`
`21:59.38`	`nomed`	`ok`
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`22:01.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, all prefect nomed , but not posible to read the /tmp/UNION dir :/`
`22:01.43`	`nomed`	`i can :o`
`22:01.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`ls: reading directory UNION/: Invalid argument`
`22:01.49`	`Elive_user`	`can't mount cd`
`22:01.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im not posible to "ls" simple`
`22:02.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus mount cd ? o_O`
`22:02.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user3 please change your nickname`
`22:02.26`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, lsmod \| grep unionfs ?`
`22:03.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`activated: 812052 4`
`22:03.19`	`azzazus`	`cdrom drive, Thanatermesis`
`22:03.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus mount with evidence ?`
`22:03.39`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, mybe it's because you're using an unionfs within an unionfs`
`22:03.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, maybe, Im not unionfs expert`
`22:04.07`	`nomed`	`not those are the cmds`
`22:04.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`one unionfs mounted in a unionfs system ?`
`22:04.40`	`nomed`	`yes`
`22:04.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`22:04.56`	`nomed`	`actually your root fs is mounted in unionfs`
`22:05.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, another way for make this in the same computer but from my normal system and not the livecd mode ?`
`22:05.17`	`nomed`	`you should try the same steps from a normal system`
`22:05.19`	`nomed`	`yes`
`22:05.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, Im understand`
`22:05.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, not easy`
`22:05.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`I not have unionfs module in the normal system`
`22:05.53`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis, is the cdrom device sda...?`
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`22:06.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus maybe, but more posible hdd`
`22:06.21`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, you can use kernel-image-2.6.11 from morphix`
`22:06.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, yes, its a way`
`22:06.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, give me a lot of minutes`
`22:06.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:07.17`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, or you can cp -pidRv /tmp/base /tmp/newbase`
`22:07.31`	`azzazus`	`ok`
`22:07.31`	`nomed`	`but this is not a good idea within the live cd`
`22:07.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh nomed , you know any distro based really in the snapshots mode ?`
`22:07.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh.. mmmh`
`22:07.43`	`nomed`	`mine`
`22:07.47`	`nomed`	`:)`
`22:08.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, I mount the base cloop from the cd and copy the system, and chroot.. good idea`
`22:08.24`	`nomed`	`perfect`
`22:08.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`this computer are old but have a good system installed, cloop, 2.6.7, all configured for all I need :)`
`22:09.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed good, Im interesed to try (a posible future day), one distro based in the snapshots mode for give a little look of the final results and work, really unionfs are a BIG interesant project`
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`22:10.58`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis, do you know what the block device is for dvd-r/w drive?`
`22:11.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus the same of a cdr device`
`22:11.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus in what IDE is conected ?`
`22:11.48`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis, dunno`
`22:11.53`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, i can send you a demo`
`22:12.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`a demo ?`
`22:12.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`ISO ?`
`22:12.07`	`Elive_user`	`ciao a tutti`
`22:12.07`	`nomed`	`yes`
`22:12.16`	`Elive_user`	`hello to all`
`22:12.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, good, what size ?`
`22:12.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`hello Elive_user`
`22:12.23`	`nomed`	`280Mb`
`22:12.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus cat /etc/fstab \| grep hd`
`22:12.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfect nomed :)`
`22:12.59`	`nomed`	`think i'm still workin on it and waitin new hwconf stuff from morphix ...`
`22:13.06`	`nomed`	`but it works nice`
`22:13.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`but if you make this -70 mb little space, can posible to build a mini-cd ;)`
`22:13.48`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, if you want it on a mini cd just remove mainmod/4_desktop`
`22:14.05`	`nomed`	`and you'll have a desktop env without some stuff`
`22:14.31`	`nomed`	`live.iso - 4_desktop = 120 Mb ;)`
`22:14.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, good`
`22:14.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`what have 4_desktop ? usr programs ?`
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`22:15.55`	`M_aya`	`buenas`
`22:16.03`	`M_aya`	`alguien puede decirme de donde bajar e_utils ?`
`22:16.07`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis, the command retured info about HD file systems`
`22:16.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed , base copied successfully, I need --bind /dev or mount proc ?`
`22:16.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus ONLY the HD file systems ?`
`22:16.50`	`nomed`	`take a look in dev`
`22:16.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya no lo tienes instalado ?`
`22:16.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya estas en Elive ?`
`22:16.59`	`nomed`	`if they don't exist`
`22:17.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya = amaya ?`
`22:17.10`	`nomed`	`mount -n -t proc proc /proc`
`22:17.19`	`nomed`	`mount -n -t sysfs sysfs /sys`
`22:17.22`	`nomed`	`udevstart`
`22:17.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/ Im dont use udev`
`22:17.45`	`nomed`	`in chroot`
`22:17.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed you have used udev in your morphed iso ?`
`22:18.06`	`nomed`	`based mainly on udev .. even miniroot`
`22:18.11`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis no soy ese no jeje`
`22:18.16`	`M_aya`	`ahora mismo no estoy en Elive`
`22:18.20`	`nomed`	`the devices in miniroot are generated using udevstart`
`22:18.23`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis, yes`
`22:19.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`not udevstart in chroot nomed`
`22:19.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im chrooted`
`22:20.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya mmmh, de que te sirve e-utils ? veamos, es para usarlo en un e17 que te lo has instalado de donde ?`
`22:20.23`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, i see`
`22:20.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah, I have scared M_aya`
`22:20.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
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`22:21.04`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, but the devices exist`
`22:21.06`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/`
`22:21.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya es decir, te lo has compilado a mano ?`
`22:21.25`	`M_aya`	`exacto`
`22:21.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed mmmh, boh, ok, Im in chroot, what I need? :)`
`22:22.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, upgrade ddcxinfo ?`
`22:22.08`	`nomed`	`or add morphix repo to source.list`
`22:22.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya pues esta en el mismo CVS que te lo has compilado ;)`
`22:22.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`22:22.25`	`nomed`	`or download it place it in you chroot di and dpkg -i`
`22:24.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed ok, dpkg -x lol`
`22:25.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`the libs of dpkg control are deleted`
`22:25.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`and not posible to install or use`
`22:25.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed aparently i have the new files in the system, what command for look or create new XF86 file ?`
`22:25.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`conf file`
`22:25.54`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, dpkg -x ?`
`22:26.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, extract in a dir ( or / )`
`22:26.14`	`nomed`	`ddcxinfo-knoppix -modes`
`22:26.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`modes "640x480"`
`22:26.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
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`22:26.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`I have 800x600`
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`22:26.50`	`erGoline`	`hi :)`
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`22:27.56`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, mkfx86config ...`
`22:28.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`heh`
`22:28.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`only`
`22:28.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`"640x480"`
`22:28.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt bad bot`
`22:28.34`	`apt`	`Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you!`
`22:28.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt cool bot`
`22:29.01`	`erGoline`	`hi Thanatermesis :) can I ask the stuff about engage now?`
`22:29.14`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, so the problems came from ddcxinfo ...`
`22:29.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`what problem erGoline ?`
`22:29.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, not included new versions in ddcx-info-morphix nomed ?`
`22:30.04`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, I cannot force engage module (non standard app) to stay on top..`
`22:30.18`	`nomed`	`yes there is a new one .. but evaleto is still workin on that stuff`
`22:30.27`	`nomed`	`still quite buggy`
`22:30.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I cannot force engage module (non standard app) to stay on top`
`22:30.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed evaleto is in the #morph channel ?`
`22:30.43`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, you could try ddcxinfo-knoppix`
`22:30.50`	`nomed`	`no`
`22:31.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh, the only existant command are ddcxinfo-knoppix`
`22:31.13`	`nomed`	`or ddcxinfo-kanotix ...`
`22:31.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`exist a -morphix ?`
`22:31.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:31.27`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, i mean the deb pkge :)`
`22:32.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`22:32.17`	`nomed`	`for ex take a look in`
`22:32.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`ddxinfo-morphix only contain the -knoppix executalb`
`22:32.18`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis bien, he compilado unos 4 paquetes que habia dejado de lado pero con emotion me da "configure: error: Xine is not installed or cannot be found."`
`22:32.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya te lo dice bien claro, necesitas las librerias de xine ;)`
`22:33.01`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, gunzip morphix/packages.gz`
`22:33.20`	`nomed`	`cat morphix/packages \| grep ddcxinfo`
`22:33.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`one sec`
`22:34.34`	`nomed`	`and cat packages \| grep hwdata ... those are the main packages for autoconf`
`22:34.38`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis bien, he compilado unos 4 paquetes que habia dejado de lado pero con emotion me da "configure: error: Xine is not installed or cannot be found."`
`22:38.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: pong`
`22:38.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 tu veut du boulot? lol, on me avait passée ça mais je ne ais pas encore u le temps de me occuper: http://www.linux.it/~cga/tuning_elive.txt`
`22:39.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya te lo dice bien claro, necesitas las librerias de xine ;)`
`22:39.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4)`
`22:39.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`22:40.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`only 1 depend, and not are hwdata or anothers nomed ... only have the "ddcxinfo-knoppix" script`
`22:40.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`hwdata-morphix hwsetup-mophix... bleha`
`22:41.06`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, in base you can't use dpkg -L an so on ... no status file`
`22:41.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, Im only "dpkg -x package tempdir && ls -R tempdir"`
`22:41.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:41.53`	`nomed`	`eheh`
`22:42.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`because I dont have installed this, only put directly in the system ;9`
`22:42.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmh, what are the files/packages containing the data of the screens/monitors for use with ddcxinfo-knoppix ?`
`22:43.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`argh`
`22:43.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`is a bin file`
`22:43.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`with all modelines info included`
`22:43.38`	`nomed`	`i think it uses hwdata`
`22:43.38`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: il faudrait peut etre le mettre en section "bugs" plutot non? pour moi la section pour upgrader Elive elle sera toujours valable, par contre les bugs a la prochaine version ce sera des autres`
`22:44.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmmoais pr0t0cod7 , en tout cas il faut voire bien comment organizer ça, car par example parfois on sait pas ou metre les choses (par example le truc de les icones/engage il et dans les deux)`
`22:44.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinon, section bugs = faq , non?`
`22:45.07`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: icons/upgrades/E17themes -> Tuning , dma/reseau/bugs... -> bugs`
`22:45.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed but not have this depend :/`
`22:45.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4)`
`22:45.36`	`M_aya`	`ohh`
`22:45.45`	`pr0t0cod7`	`il faut a mon avis separer les sections qui seront "fixes" et les autres comme "bugs" qui vont plus bouger`
`22:45.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui`
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`22:45.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais alors, pour le faq ?`
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`22:46.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`22:46.21`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, i'm not sure .... but i can't figure out out`
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`22:46.32`	`nomed`	`s/last out/how`
`22:46.33`	`nomed`	`:P`
`22:46.45`	`M_aya`	`ohh emotion funciona :D`
`22:46.56`	`pr0t0cod7`	`la section bugs je vais essayer de faire avec la page FAQ`
`22:46.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, Im try to interogate with a white hard lamp to alex`
`22:47.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 oui, en tout cas ça serait bien de le metre tout dans le moins de pages posibles`
`22:47.46`	`pr0t0cod7`	`voila :d`
`22:47.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`en tout cas pr0t0cod7 faq = bugs , sinon bugs c'est plutot = info... et les "bugs" de chez faq on peut les enlever pour le next release ;)`
`22:48.05`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xD`
`22:48.10`	`pr0t0cod7`	`..oui`
`22:48.14`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, i can send you the iso if you want to take a look ..`
`22:48.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`quel bordel`
`22:48.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:48.26`	`nomed`	`i'm going in a while`
`22:48.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`je suis sure que tu n'a rien pigée pr0t0cod7 lol`
`22:48.37`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ou les laisser et separer les sections Bugs: version 0.3 , version 0.4 etc..`
`22:48.49`	`pr0t0cod7`	`laisse moi faire ;)`
`22:48.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`ou le "old-faq" et le "faq"`
`22:48.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`22:49.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed mmmh, its simply the debased project ?`
`22:49.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`with webpage download ?`
`22:50.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`jai recupéré un Thinkpad PentiumII, j'aimerai bien mettre elive dessus :P`
`22:50.20`	`pr0t0cod7`	`pour essayer mais le cdrom va etre dur a faire marcher :o`
`22:50.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`22:50.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`22:50.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`cat /dev/cdrom > /dev/hda ?`
`22:50.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`22:50.47`	`pr0t0cod7`	`je sais pas si il boot sur le cdrom`
`22:50.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`cat /dev/cdrom > thinkpad:/dev/hda ?`
`22:50.53`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, sorry I was away.. I miss something? Do you read my question about engage?`
`22:51.20`	`nomed`	`yes`
`22:51.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`<erGoline> Thanatermesis, I cannot force engage module (non standard app) to stay on top.. ?`
`22:52.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok nomed , don't worry , with I have time for test it, Im call google ;)`
`22:52.15`	`nomed`	`ok`
`22:52.23`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, yes`
`22:52.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`because the 0.3 release I have a really lot of work`
`22:52.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I cannot force engage module (non standard app) to stay on top..`
`22:52.55`	`nomed`	`hasta luego`
`22:53.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`hasta lueog y gracias`
`22:53.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`erGoline you need to add new icons in the engage module`
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`22:53.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`look in the menu for the "menu editor"`
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`22:54.31`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, I know how add icons, it's not a problem.. I need to force it on top`
`22:54.41`	`azzazus`	`what device is sda.. for/`
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`22:54.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus usb device or scsi device`
`22:55.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`on top erGoline ? oooh, you speak for e16 ?`
`22:57.02`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis`
`22:57.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya`
`22:57.06`	`M_aya`	`are you french ?`
`22:57.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`speak french`
`22:58.18`	`M_aya`	`daccord`
`22:59.13`	`M_aya`	`hmm`
`22:59.33`	`M_aya`	`entonces en que prefieres que te hable`
`22:59.38`	`M_aya`	`espa�ol ingles o franc�s :P`
`23:00.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`me da lo mismo`
`23:00.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:00.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero si hablas inglés tarzánico de coña`
`23:00.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:00.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque es el unico que se hablar xD`
`23:01.03`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, sorry I was talking about e17!`
`23:01.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`sorry erGoline , Im don't know what you speak for "top", ask it in #e`
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`23:03.27`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis xD ok`
`23:03.28`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erGoline: what do you want to force on top? engage module?`
`23:03.32`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, "Stacking always on top" of othe windows`
`23:03.42`	`erGoline`	`pr0t0cod7, yes :)`
`23:03.48`	`pr0t0cod7`	`you can't`
`23:03.53`	`erGoline`	`....`
`23:04.05`	`pr0t0cod7`	`modules are part of the desktop background`
`23:04.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`in e17`
`23:04.28`	`erGoline`	`ahh... I don't' know that`
`23:04.37`	`M_aya`	`te decia, he instalado todos los paquetes de http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/ pero sigo sin tener los de e_utils como por ejemplo emblem`
`23:04.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 putain, je dois retoucher toutes les eap, a parament il marche pas le "minimize" car il a pas de "window class" il faut metre qoi sur le window class ? ninporte qoi ou il doit etre égal a le exectuable ou "app name" ?`
`23:04.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`erGoline alt+click ?`
`23:05.30`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, pr0t0cod7 just explain me that is not possibile what I asked :\`
`23:05.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya no conozco los paquetes de freedesktop, no se si el e_utils esta incluido, pero que hay alli ? codigo fuente ?`
`23:06.11`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, pr0t0cod7 just explain me that is not possibile what I asked :( is normal?`
`23:06.11`	`M_aya`	`en e_utils ?`
`23:06.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`erGoline very posible, Im not e17 expert, Im in e16 :)`
`23:06.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya en todo eso, que hay en freedesktop ? codigo fuente? paquetes ?`
`23:06.36`	`erGoline`	`Thanatermesis, ok ok :)`
`23:06.50`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: purée jai lancé le telechargement de elive quand je t'ai fait "pong!" et c'est deja fini :D`
`23:07.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`23:07.01`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis codigo fuente`
`23:07.05`	`erGoline`	`pr0t0cod7, instead engage standard application doen't grab running app icons.. is normal?`
`23:07.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/elive/packages/enlightenment)==--> buscar e_utils`
`23:07.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`./e17/apps/e/src/bin/e_utils.c`
`23:08.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya parece estar en el codigo fuente de e17`
`23:08.14`	`M_aya`	`si claro`
`23:08.23`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erGoline: engage can grab icons, check engage -h/--help`
`23:08.33`	`M_aya`	`el cual evidentemente tambien he instalado,asi como el resto`
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`23:08.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 e-utils il et plus un package separée ? il et DANS le e17 source-code integrée maintenant ?`
`23:09.00`	`M_aya`	`es que sin por ejemplo emblem no puedo cambiar el fondo de pantalla de enlightenment`
`23:09.11`	`M_aya`	`y ese programa por lo que veo se incluye en las e_utils`
`23:09.22`	`erGoline`	`pr0t0cod7, I view all options (-G -g).. but it simply doen't work. I was using the e17 CVS version`
`23:09.24`	`M_aya`	`ahh mira aqui estan`
`23:09.26`	`M_aya`	`http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/enlightenment/e17/apps/e_utils/`
`23:09.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`bennn... moi je continue a avoire un package existant de e-utils`
`23:09.33`	`M_aya`	`ahora faltaria saber como descargar eso`
`23:09.35`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erGoline: do you know www.get-e.org user guide? maybe you could find some help here`
`23:09.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erGoline: strange`
`23:09.58`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: aucune idée :/ pourquoi ??`
`23:10.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ça m'etonnerai`
`23:10.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/elive/packages/enlightenment)==--> buscar e_utils`
`23:10.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`./e17/apps/e/src/bin/e_utils.c`
`23:10.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`:o`
`23:10.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:10.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais c'est fou`
`23:10.24`	`M_aya`	`bein je mense qu'il suffirai de me dire comment le t�lecharger du cvs que je viens de retrouver`
`23:10.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`mon package il continue a étre compilée`
`23:10.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`att`
`23:10.39`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: je suis a la rue la e17 evolue trop vite pour moi xD`
`23:10.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`23:10.55`	`M_aya`	`xD je me suis jamais telement marr� pour installer un WM, meme pour FVWM c'etait pas si fou`
`23:11.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/elive/packages/enlightenment/e17/apps/e_utils)==--> ls`
`23:11.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`aclocal.m4 config.h.in COPYING-PLAIN libtool mkinstalldirs`
`23:11.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`ben... il existe quand meme`
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`23:11.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`humm...`
`23:11.54`	`erGoline`	`pr0t0cod7, strange but true :(`
`23:12.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`bah!`
`23:12.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`e-utils il et sur e-utils`
`23:12.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est tout`
`23:12.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:12.30`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erGoline: i'm going to compile it from cvs to see if it's the same here`
`23:12.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya e17/apps/e_utils/`
`23:12.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`alli esta`
`23:13.26`	`M_aya`	`y eso como lo descargo`
`23:13.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`no lo se`
`23:13.46`	`M_aya`	`c'est pas trop mon truc les cvs :S`
`23:13.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque no compilas del CVS en vez de freedesktop ?`
`23:14.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 il compile du freedesktop ... mmmh, ça sert a qoi le freedesktop ? lol`
`23:14.11`	`M_aya`	`seria otra opcion`
`23:14.16`	`M_aya`	`es que lo de freedesktop fue lo primero que vi`
`23:14.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`CVS ;)`
`23:14.27`	`M_aya`	`en ese caso, como hago para instalarlo desde el cvs ?`
`23:14.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`www.enlightenmen.org <-- get enlightenment`
`23:15.12`	`erGoline`	`pr0t0cod7, thx`
`23:16.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: des snapshots ça evite que tout le monde bourine sur le cvs et je pense que les snapshots sont fait quand il y a pas trop de bugs`
`23:17.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`moais, c'est bien quand memme`
`23:17.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 alors, la je vais retoucher toutes les eap... je fait comment pour les "window class" ?`
`23:17.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'etait qoi de fait ?`
`23:18.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: j'en sais rien O_o`
`23:18.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`le plus simple -> ouvrir le programe cliquer sur l'icone et regarder..`
`23:18.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`dans e_utils_apps_edit`
`23:18.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`merde !!!!`
`23:18.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`tout mes eap casséee !!!!`
`23:19.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`pfffff`
`23:19.10`	`pr0t0cod7`	`:/`
`23:19.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`quelle grosse merde`
`23:19.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`52 eaps`
`23:19.22`	`pr0t0cod7`	`avant ça fonctionnait?`
`23:19.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, ça a etée a cause de une comande que je lui et passée`
`23:19.49`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis il me demande un password le monsieur CVS :o`
`23:19.58`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: t as pas de sauvergarde?`
`23:20.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`il fesait 1.4 MB alors je les ait resizée`
`23:20.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`M_aya: fait juste Enter`
`23:20.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://pastebin.com/356291`
`23:20.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`350 kb`
`23:20.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`mais a parament il a efacée tout les parametres et tout`
`23:20.24`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erf`
`23:20.26`	`M_aya`	`CVS password:cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: Connection refused`
`23:20.35`	`M_aya`	`vivement xD`
`23:20.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`M_aya: tu utilise quelle commande?`
`23:20.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`enter ?`
`23:20.57`	`pr0t0cod7`	`oui c'est anonyme le cvs pas besoin de mot de passe..`
`23:21.11`	`M_aya`	`celle pr�cis� dans la doc de Get Enlightenment`
`23:21.12`	`M_aya`	`CVS password:cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: Connection refused`
`23:21.15`	`M_aya`	`oops`
`23:21.16`	`M_aya`	`wait`
`23:21.27`	`M_aya`	`cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login`
`23:21.29`	`M_aya`	`voila`
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`23:22.35`	`Thanatermesis_`	`:/`
`23:22.37`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ben ici il marche`
`23:22.51`	`Thanatermesis_`	`erf`
`23:22.56`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gross merde`
`23:23.16`	`pr0t0cod7`	`alex@dabox ~ $ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment login`
`23:23.20`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/enlightenment`
`23:23.22`	`pr0t0cod7`	`CVS password:`
`23:23.25`	`pr0t0cod7`	`alex@dabox ~ $ cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/enlightenment co e17/apps/e`
`23:23.28`	`pr0t0cod7`	`cvs checkout: Updating e17/apps/e`
`23:23.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`mais le CVS pas de problemeS...`
`23:23.32`	`pr0t0cod7`	`U e17/apps/e/.cvsignore`
`23:23.34`	`pr0t0cod7`	`U e17/apps/e/ABOUT-NLSK`
`23:23.37`	`pr0t0cod7`	`desolé le flood`
`23:23.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`M_aya utilise le meme comande que pr0t0cod7 ;)`
`23:23.50`	`M_aya`	`ok j'ai compris`
`23:24.13`	`M_aya`	`encore un truc que monsieur Administrateur du router du lieu ou j'habite a bloqu�`
`23:24.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`o_O`
`23:24.39`	`M_aya`	`quel delir, faudra dl ca sur une wifi d'a cot� avec le portable`
`23:24.46`	`M_aya`	`bon bah c parti pour le wifiscanning xD`
`23:25.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 de fait... tu sait que les eap c'est du edje? ;)`
`23:25.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu sait ce que ça veut dire, non? ;)`
`23:26.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`je vais faire un eap pour le paneaux de control de Elive qui "saute" pr0t0cod7 quand il aparait lol`
`23:26.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`plink!`
`23:26.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:29.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ouais cool :D`
`23:29.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es A edje is a eet file with some predefined keys, so you can add more keys if you like.`
`23:30.02`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erGoline: sorry i'm recompiling all efls, engage doesn't work with my last cvs compil`
`23:31.36`	`erGoline`	`pr0t0cod7, ok no problem, thanks anyway :)`
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`23:34.23`	`pr0t0cod7`	`erGoline: np`
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`23:35.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`nas gs`
`23:35.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`que te parecieron los sonidos ? xD`
`23:36.23`	`gs`	`al final no pude probarlos :(`
`23:36.48`	`gs`	`acabo de llegar a casa hace un rato`
`23:36.54`	`gs`	`y me he puesto a compilar el quake3`
`23:36.59`	`gs`	`ke lo tenia pendiente jeje`
`23:37.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDDDD`
`23:37.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`venga, que tardas por cambiar de theme desde el menu ;) xD`
`23:37.33`	`gs`	`el caso eske no veo el tuyo`
`23:37.35`	`gs`	`xD`
`23:37.38`	`sinplomo`	`gs, echas una partidita ?`
`23:37.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`23:37.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues copialo a tu home y fuera`
`23:37.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`dpkg -L`
`23:37.53`	`gs`	`sinplomo, venga pero pon tu el server`
`23:38.04`	`sinplomo`	`gs, y los mapas ?`
`23:38.05`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:38.06`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, si ya lo hare no problem XD`
`23:38.21`	`gs`	`sinplomo, en el cd original ke tengo`
`23:38.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`erGoline you are in elive,ye s?`
`23:38.37`	`sinplomo`	`gs, bueno`
`23:38.40`	`sinplomo`	`rapidito`
`23:38.41`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:38.52`	`sinplomo`	`196.206.84.83`
`23:38.59`	`sinplomo`	`el puerto que esta por defecto`
`23:39.03`	`gs`	`ok veamos`
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`23:40.10`	`gs`	`sinplomo, me dice invalid cdkey O_O`
`23:40.50`	`sinplomo`	`gs, la key yo la he dejao en vacio`
`23:40.51`	`sinplomo`	`xDD`
`23:41.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`~x en es You have to use xprop on a window to see what they use.`
`23:41.10`	`gs`	`pues sera entonces por ti`
`23:41.11`	`gs`	`xD`
`23:41.46`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:41.48`	`sinplomo`	`y ahora que hago`
`23:41.49`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:41.52`	`sinplomo`	`crea tu`
`23:41.53`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:41.54`	`gs`	`buscar un cdkey`
`23:42.01`	`gs`	`no puedo tengo puertos chapados`
`23:42.04`	`gs`	`o eso creo`
`23:42.06`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:42.34`	`gs`	`veamos voy a meter yo una`
`23:42.35`	`gs`	`un seg`
`23:43.04`	`sinplomo`	`si es libre no puede pedir clave`
`23:43.04`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:43.07`	`sinplomo`	`bueno`
`23:43.12`	`sinplomo`	`libre != gratis`
`23:43.32`	`gs`	`el caso eske creia ke habian kitado lo del cdkey`
`23:43.36`	`gs`	`ke version tienes tu del juego?`
`23:43.40`	`gs`	`la libre o la precompilada?`
`23:43.50`	`sinplomo`	`precompilada`
`23:44.02`	`gs`	`amigo`
`23:44.03`	`gs`	`xD`
`23:44.10`	`gs`	`en esa necesitas cdkey`
`23:44.30`	`gs`	`tlawjdp3cgr2bs7h`
`23:44.33`	`gs`	`mete eso a ver`
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`23:44.49`	`gs`	`me lo acabo de inventar XD`
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`23:45.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es How do you think that will happend if you set some random class and name on the eap?`
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`23:46.37`	`M_aya`	`Thanatermesis`
`23:47.17`	`M_aya`	`faudrai que quelqun aille sur le cvs et me passe par email les e_utils :-(`
`23:47.25`	`M_aya`	`j'ai un ptit bl�m`
`23:47.33`	`M_aya`	`jsuis un peu chiant je sais`
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`23:48.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`tu ne sait pas acceder au cvs ?`
`23:48.33`	`synd`	`does elive support wireless cards?`
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`23:48.51`	`M_aya`	`bah non, jsuis dans une r�sidence et le *** d'admin a bloqu� plein de ports sur le routeur`
`23:49.17`	`M_aya`	`r�sultat, meme l'irc ne marche pas`
`23:49.33`	`gs`	`sinplomo, nada no entra`
`23:49.42`	`sinplomo`	`claro`
`23:49.49`	`sinplomo`	`como voy a entrar si te estoy leyendo`
`23:49.49`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:50.38`	`gs`	`digo yo al tuyo`
`23:50.46`	`gs`	`ke cdkey le has puesto?`
`23:50.55`	`sinplomo`	`gs, ninguno`
`23:51.00`	`sinplomo`	`lo dejo siempre en blanco`
`23:51.06`	`sinplomo`	`y logro jugar en servers`
`23:51.10`	`sinplomo`	`y en LAN tmb`
`23:51.18`	`gs`	`en lan se puede via inet no`
`23:51.37`	`gs`	`no si tu ke no tienes key creas el server`
`23:51.45`	`gs`	`pero bueno ya jugaremos`
`23:51.49`	`gs`	`ahora tengo ke hacer unas cosillas`
`23:55.38`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es nah I'm trying to paste a WHOLE bunch of stuff and I can't populate the clipboard via command line.`
`23:56.09`	`Thanatermesis_`	`O_O'`
`23:56.31`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en fr nah I'm trying to paste a WHOLE bunch of stuff and I can't populate the clipboard via command line.`
`23:56.51`	`Thanatermesis_`	`'O_O`
`23:57.02`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pr0t0cod7, shadoi speak chinese? lol`
`23:57.23`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es if you click the edit icon thing it should launch e_util_eap_edit`
`23:58.15`	`sinplomo`	`gs, http://www.tonterias.com/`
`23:58.16`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`23:59.37`	`gs`	`sinplomo, ke le pasa a esa web?X D`

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