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`00:03.14`	`erGoline`	`bye`
`00:03.42`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es which makes sense`
`00:04.13`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, "lo cual tiene sentido"`
`00:05.47`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es if links changes its window class based on the page your on, tahts pretty stupid`
`00:05.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gracias sinplomo`
`00:07.08`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es so, go bitch to them`
`00:07.12`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, funcionaba el make-deb ese ke hiciste?`
`00:07.23`	`gs`	`voy a probar a empaketar el quake3`
`00:07.26`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es so, go bitch to them`
`00:07.29`	`Thanatermesis_`	`perfectamente ;)`
`00:07.34`	`Thanatermesis_`	`con eso lo tengo todo empaquetado xD`
`00:07.44`	`gs`	`solo con el codigo fuente puedes no?`
`00:07.55`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ademas, dicen que para soft cerrado no existe nada mejor que make-deb ;)`
`00:08.02`	`gs`	`o necesitas crearte el directorio debian... changelog etc..`
`00:08.07`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pues con make-deb compile deberia funcionar`
`00:08.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`eso lo hace solo ;)`
`00:08.15`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, el quake3 es soft gpl XD`
`00:08.24`	`Thanatermesis_`	`bueno, da igual xD`
`00:08.30`	`gs`	`mmm pasame el make-deb a ver`
`00:08.35`	`gs`	`ke kiero hacer una prueba`
`00:11.06`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pilla dcc gs`
`00:11.17`	`Thanatermesis_`	`que no te lo voy a mandar 2 veces que tarda mucho en leer el dir xD`
`00:11.47`	`gs`	`ok`
`00:11.55`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pr0t0cod7 de fait, maintenant que je i reflexir par raport a le probleme avec les icons et tout ça... il faudrait`
`00:11.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pero pilla gs`
`00:11.58`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`00:12.01`	`Thanatermesis_`	`--- Ofrece make-deb a gs`
`00:12.16`	`gs`	`no lo veo`
`00:12.30`	`gs`	`no me lo has ofrecido xD`
`00:12.38`	`gs`	`o dime una url`
`00:12.47`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pr0t0cod7 il faudrait metre le "bugs" liste ... pour les bugs trouvée et tout ça, quand il i a un reparée, metre une espece de "fixed" ou "fixed with upgrade your conf"..`
`00:12.51`	`gs`	`make-deb_0.7_all.deb`
`00:12.52`	`gs`	`es ese?`
`00:12.58`	`Thanatermesis_`	`--- DCC SEND make-deb para gs agotó el tiempo de espera - abortando.`
`00:13.02`	`Thanatermesis_`	`na, ya vamos por la 1.0 xD`
`00:13.03`	`sinplomo`	`ahora va por la versio 1`
`00:13.05`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`00:13.13`	`gs`	`pues mandamelo anda`
`00:13.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahra ?`
`00:13.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`00:13.45`	`gs`	`nossi`
`00:13.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`cambiale las primeras variables`
`00:14.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`y cagate en el codigo bien identado gs xDDDD`
`00:14.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`ni yo me entero cuando quiero cambiarle algo xDDDDD`
`00:14.27`	`gs`	`export CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i386"`
`00:14.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`es como un matrix en letras visibles`
`00:14.29`	`gs`	`ke le pongo ahi`
`00:14.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`ppc ?`
`00:14.36`	`gs`	`export CFLAGS="-O2 -march=ppc"`
`00:14.37`	`gs`	`?`
`00:14.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`no`
`00:14.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`deja solo "-O2"`
`00:15.59`	`gs`	`make-ded compile ?`
`00:16.01`	`gs`	`solo eso?`
`00:16.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`00:16.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`si tienes todas las dependencias`
`00:16.34`	`gs`	`dentro del directorio no?`
`00:17.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, dentro de donde harias "make"`
`00:18.03`	`gs`	`hace falta ser root?`
`00:18.04`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, y en las opciones hay ue poner --prefix=/tmp/paquete`
`00:18.06`	`sinplomo`	`no ?`
`00:18.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`si`
`00:18.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`no sinplomo`
`00:18.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya lo hace solo ;)`
`00:18.37`	`sinplomo`	`va`
`00:19.01`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, te lo vuelve a compilar? O_o`
`00:19.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues si`
`00:19.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:19.14`	`gs`	`si no existe el configure te jodes? XD`
`00:19.27`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, hazme un tar del ~/.xchat de Elive`
`00:19.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, creo que acepta el autonoseque.sh o el configure`
`00:19.40`	`gs`	`solo tiene make`
`00:19.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo apt-get install elive-skel`
`00:19.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:19.48`	`sinplomo`	`gs, pos tio, a la hora de compilar, haber tocao el make`
`00:19.49`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`00:19.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs y entonces que pasa? no quiere continuar ?`
`00:19.56`	`sinplomo`	`y ponerle /tmp/paquete`
`00:19.59`	`gs`	`me cago en die`
`00:20.00`	`gs`	`xD`
`00:20.04`	`sinplomo`	`y luego pasar make-deb pack`
`00:20.06`	`sinplomo`	`y fuera`
`00:20.18`	`gs`	`es igual`
`00:20.21`	`sinplomo`	`<-- good packer :)`
`00:20.23`	`gs`	`ya esta vilviendo a compilar`
`00:20.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah ok`
`00:20.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo no lo lies xD`
`00:20.42`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, xD`
`00:20.45`	`gs`	`ahora no me creará el pakete como la otra vez ke lo probé`
`00:20.45`	`gs`	`xD`
`00:20.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`que ni yo te e entendido sinplomo xDD`
`00:20.52`	`gs`	`y si lo crea pues aver si chuta XD`
`00:21.01`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, xDDDDDD eso es grave xDDDD`
`00:21.15`	`sinplomo`	`gs, a ver si te crea un deb vacio`
`00:21.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs si usa buenos makefiles y tal no deberia haber problema ;)`
`00:21.16`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`00:21.24`	`gs`	`xD`
`00:21.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es posible, si no tiene makefiles buenos...`
`00:21.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`y si me dices que no hay configure... :/`
`00:21.45`	`sinplomo`	`me paso mas de un vez`
`00:21.47`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, el quake3 es un juego bastante bien hecho`
`00:21.55`	`gs`	`dudo ke no tenga un makefile bien hecho`
`00:21.56`	`gs`	`:P`
`00:21.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo para eso esta debian/make-deb/prescript.sh ;)`
`00:22.10`	`gs`	`mas ke nada porke compila cualkier arkitectura sin ponerle nada`
`00:22.15`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, O_o`
`00:22.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`gs bueno, pues un configure nisiquiera tiene en todo caso xD`
`00:22.18`	`gs`	`lo autodetecta todo`
`00:22.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo digamos que son opciones escondidas de make-deb xDDD`
`00:22.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo lo tienes instalado por apt ?`
`00:22.40`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, porke no le hace falta tiene todas las libs incorporadas en el codigo`
`00:22.44`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, si`
`00:22.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo apt-cache show make-deb`
`00:22.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:22.59`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:23.00`	`sinplomo`	`/usr/bin`
`00:23.00`	`sinplomo`	`/usr/bin/make-deb`
`00:23.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya`
`00:23.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`no hay mas`
`00:23.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`00:23.17`	`gs`	`no deberia ser en /usr/sbin?`
`00:23.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`nah`
`00:23.24`	`gs`	`ya ke me has dicho ke tienes ke ser root`
`00:23.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`algunas cosas no hace falta`
`00:23.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`para hacer el paquete si`
`00:23.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero tambien tienes "make-deb look"`
`00:23.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`lanza por otro lado make-deb a secas, y le las optionces ;)`
`00:24.12`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, hazme un tar del ~/.xchat de Elive`
`00:24.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`joder, make-deb check, con lo que me costó hacerlo y nisiquiera lo e usado :/ con lo salva-vidas que puede llegar a ser :/`
`00:25.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo que te instales el paqute elive-skel coño`
`00:25.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`o lo abras xD`
`00:25.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero de todas formas te lo tienes que instalar sinplomo , para que te funcione bien tienes que usar "elive-skel upgrade" :P`
`00:25.44`	`Thanatermesis_`	`eso eso, a leer la doc`
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`00:27.13`	`gs`	`Instalando el codigo fuente en el paquete...`
`00:27.16`	`gs`	`ke bien keda en verde XD`
`00:27.25`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`00:27.27`	`gs`	`Thanatermesis, donde mete el .deb?`
`00:27.37`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ya te lo dira`
`00:27.38`	`Thanatermesis_`	`en /tmp`
`00:27.59`	`gs`	`/tmp/paquete# ls`
`00:27.59`	`gs`	`debian:/tmp/paquete#`
`00:28.00`	`gs`	`mmm`
`00:28.11`	`gs`	`menuda mierda XD`
`00:28.16`	`gs`	`no me ha creado nada`
`00:28.20`	`Thanatermesis_`	`eso es que te a petado la compilacion`
`00:28.21`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`00:28.24`	`gs`	`se ha parado porke no existia make install`
`00:28.27`	`gs`	`no`
`00:28.29`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xDDDDDDDDD`
`00:28.37`	`gs`	`ha compilado bien pero no existe la entrada a install`
`00:28.41`	`gs`	`pufffff`
`00:28.46`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ya te dije que necesitaba un minimo de makefiles ;) xD`
`00:28.58`	`Thanatermesis_`	`bah, leete la opcion "make-deb pack" y usala y fuera`
`00:29.04`	`Thanatermesis_`	`con eso va que chuta`
`00:29.07`	`gs`	`sinplomo, leemela`
`00:29.13`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
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`00:29.26`	`Thanatermesis_`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`00:29.26`	`Thanatermesis_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:29.46`	`Thanatermesis_`	`es facil, no ? xD`
`00:29.49`	`gs`	`te explicas como un libro cerrado`
`00:29.59`	`Thanatermesis_`	`joer, si mas facil imposible`
`00:30.12`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sirve para crear unpaquete, necesitas poner los ficheros alli`
`00:30.13`	`Thanatermesis_`	`punto`
`00:30.13`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`00:30.29`	`gs`	`copio todo en /tmp/paquete`
`00:30.33`	`gs`	`luego ke`
`00:30.37`	`Thanatermesis_`	`make-deb pack`
`00:30.45`	`gs`	`dentro de /tmp/pakete no?`
`00:30.47`	`Thanatermesis_`	`todo como si estuviera en / eh ?`
`00:30.50`	`Thanatermesis_`	`si`
`00:30.52`	`Thanatermesis_`	`no`
`00:30.53`	`Thanatermesis_`	`da igual`
`00:30.53`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`00:30.59`	`Thanatermesis_`	`es lo mismo`
`00:31.05`	`gs`	`vamos a ver`
`00:31.15`	`gs`	`como ke como si estubiera en /?`
`00:31.25`	`gs`	`si esto es un puto codigo fuente ke te da un puto comando`
`00:31.26`	`Thanatermesis_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:31.27`	`gs`	`no tiene mas`
`00:31.29`	`Thanatermesis_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:31.53`	`gs`	`quake3/code/unix/releaseppc-glib/ <= el ejecutable esta ahi`
`00:31.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`como si hicieras un chroot del /tmp/paquete ? :D`
`00:32.05`	`Thanatermesis_`	`o_O`
`00:32.12`	`Thanatermesis_`	`y como se supone que lo instalas en el sistema ?`
`00:32.20`	`gs`	`no se instala en el sistema`
`00:32.23`	`gs`	`solo lo ejecutas desde ahi`
`00:32.31`	`Thanatermesis_`	`es todo SOLO un ejecutable ?`
`00:32.32`	`gs`	`o te haces un enlace a /usr/bin/`
`00:32.35`	`gs`	`exacto`
`00:32.38`	`gs`	`ya te lo dije`
`00:32.38`	`Thanatermesis_`	`juas`
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`00:32.43`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pues mas facil imposible`
`00:32.47`	`Thanatermesis_`	`cuanto pesa ? xD`
`00:33.05`	`gs`	`70M quake3/ <= coño!`
`00:33.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mkdir -p /tmp/paquete/usr/bin/ && chmod 777 /tmp/paquete/usr`
`00:33.27`	`Thanatermesis_`	`luego lo metes en ese subdir creado y make-deb pack`
`00:33.39`	`gs`	`veamos pero no solo necesitas el ejecutable`
`00:33.44`	`gs`	`necesitas todo lo demas tb`
`00:33.57`	`gs`	`ya lo empaketare bien cuando tenga tiempo`
`00:34.00`	`gs`	`dejalo xD`
`00:35.45`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pues metelo todo para /tmp/paquete/opt ;)`
`00:35.50`	`Thanatermesis_`	`asi no molesta al sistema`
`00:36.08`	`Thanatermesis_`	`y con un link de /tmp/paquete/usr/bin/quake3 que apunte al ejecutable del opt ;)`
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`00:40.37`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pues yo no se que le pasa a todo dios pero a mi el e17 no me segfaultea xD`
`00:40.55`	`sinplomo`	`voy a hacer pruebas yo`
`00:40.55`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`00:41.02`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, como paso los eapp a eap`
`00:41.03`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`00:41.05`	`sinplomo`	`a saco`
`00:41.11`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pf`
`00:41.19`	`Thanatermesis_`	`cuantas veces me has preguntado lo mismo ?`
`00:41.29`	`Thanatermesis_`	`man bash`
`00:41.30`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`00:43.41`	`Thanatermesis_`	`joer, cada vez que meto elive-essence meten la misma cancion xD`
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`00:45.42`	`gammal`	`hello everybody...are you considering an elive distro for amd64?`
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`00:46.13`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Yes, Im waiting a donate of one amd64 machine from gs :)`
`00:46.54`	`sinplomo`	`gs, y a mi me donaras algo ?`
`00:46.56`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`00:46.59`	`Thanatermesis_`	`lol`
`00:47.17`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sinplomo si le convences te doy la CPU xD`
`00:47.30`	`sinplomo`	`la gente regalando amd64 por ahi`
`00:47.32`	`sinplomo`	`...`
`00:47.38`	`sinplomo`	`y yo sin enterarme`
`00:47.39`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`00:48.09`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, so, until then I should just manage with e16 on standard debian I guess`
`00:48.26`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en fr so, until then I should just manage with e16 on standard debian I guess`
`00:48.47`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gammal the first problem for make an amd64 version is... don't have amd64 machine :)`
`00:49.31`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, hum`
`00:49.51`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sinplomo hum`
`00:49.59`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, al canal`
`00:50.05`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis_, I understand...it's just that I only tried elive yesterday, and I was blown away by both versions of enlightenment, so I'm trying to get any of them working on my machine...which is sarge for amd64`
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`00:50.42`	`Thanatermesis_`	`~x en es I understand...it's just that I only tried elive yesterday, and I was blown away by both versions of enlightenment, so I'm trying to get any of them working on my machine...which is sarge for amd64`
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`00:51.23`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, the default apt repository i'm using has e16, but it's missing a lot of stuff like ibar, etc...I was wondering where I can get those??`
`00:51.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gammal you are free for make you any purpose, but for wait an amd64 version...not is posible to make for this moments because dont' have this machine`
`00:52.28`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hummm`
`00:52.30`	`Thanatermesis_`	`one second`
`00:53.18`	`Thanatermesis_`	`deb http://www.livecd.debianitas.net/repository/amd64/efl/ ./ <--- try this repository, its posible to works for you ;)`
`00:53.56`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, thanks a lot`
`00:54.43`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, and btw, would it be helpful if I gave you remote access to an amd64 machine (in a chroot or something)? would this be helpful?`
`00:55.23`	`Thanatermesis_`	`yes, this is helpful, but exist another important problem`
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`00:56.01`	`nameles`	`Should Synaptic work when running the live cd? What is the root password?`
`00:56.19`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, I just want to help...so if we can do something to work around those problems I'd be glad to do everything I can`
`00:56.21`	`Thanatermesis_`	`exist +150 packages for Elive, and are compiled for x86, for export all this to amd64 its a really big job`
`00:56.33`	`Elive_user2`	`hello`
`00:56.48`	`Thanatermesis_`	`after, needs a kernel with patches for the liveCD mode etc...`
`00:56.52`	`Elive_user2`	`are new to this`
`00:56.55`	`Thanatermesis_`	`all are a big work`
`00:57.03`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hello Elive_user2`
`00:57.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`nameles mmmh, "elive" ? ;)`
`00:57.38`	`nameles`	`Should have guessed... thanks`
`00:57.58`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, anyway, the offer is still in effect, so whenever you think this is a good idea, just let me know...`
`00:59.00`	`gammal`	`nameles, you can simply "sudo" your way all through`
`01:00.12`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gammal you have a big hard disk and good conection ?`
`01:01.11`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, I can provide you with, say, 60 GB and the connection is 256KB DSL`
`01:02.42`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mmmh, the connection not are very high, this causes a slow ssh comunication`
`01:03.15`	`Thanatermesis_`	`but in any case, send me a mail to thanatermesis.elive ·at· gmail.com and I save this por a posible future day ;)`
`01:03.32`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, unfortunately this can't be improved currently :(`
`01:03.43`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es unfortunately this can't be improved currently`
`01:05.26`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, I'm sorry, both my spanish and french are not good enough :)`
`01:05.46`	`Thanatermesis_`	`don't worry, this is a multi-lingual channel ;)`
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`01:09.31`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, I understood from your website that elive woulde work better on nvidia cards, am I right?`
`01:10.11`	`sinplomo`	`gammal, elive includes 3D acceleration for nvidia cards`
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`01:11.12`	`gammal`	`well, it didn't even boot with an nvidia card...although it did with a radeon...i couldn't change the resolution though, no matter what i did`
`01:11.13`	`elive-bot`	`gammal: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`01:11.54`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gammal use "vesa"`
`01:12.06`	`Thanatermesis_`	`aparently the "radeon" set not works good`
`01:12.21`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, yes, I had to do that at the end`
`01:12.40`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es You only set -win-title and let the other fields empty?`
`01:13.26`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, what's the ATi driver used in elive? X's driver or fglrx?`
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`01:13.46`	`Thanatermesis_`	`only from debian packages`
`01:13.55`	`Thanatermesis_`	`X's`
`01:14.04`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, para las ATI esta el driver ati`
`01:14.14`	`sinplomo`	`y para las ATI Radeon el driver radeon`
`01:14.23`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, I might try fglrx then when I have enough time...and I'll tell you the results`
`01:14.26`	`sinplomo`	`a mi el radeon no me daba problemas con mi ati radeon`
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`01:14.30`	`sinplomo`	`en debian ;)`
`01:15.32`	`gammal`	`how do you invoke the translation here??`
`01:16.47`	`Thanatermesis_`	`the translation ?`
`01:17.19`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, aqui se necesita tu amd64 :)`
`01:17.32`	`sinplomo`	`gammal, apt x en es hellp`
`01:17.37`	`sinplomo`	`gammal, apt x en es hello`
`01:17.41`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es hello`
`01:17.47`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`01:17.50`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`01:18.50`	`gammal`	`apt x es en para las ATI esta el driver ati`
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`01:19.11`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`q psa sinplomo ?`
`01:19.32`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, nada, que tienes que dejar tu amd64 encendido unos 20 dias`
`01:19.40`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`jajaja`
`01:19.41`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`y eso?`
`01:19.47`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Rasko\|nikov sinplomo dice que si te apetece hacer un kernel para elive con 50 paches y exportar 152 paquetes de Elive a amd64`
`01:19.48`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`01:19.48`	`sinplomo`	`y luego le envias la factura de electricidad por correo a Thanatermesis`
`01:19.49`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:19.51`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`por mi no prob pero mis viejos... xD`
`01:20.00`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`jajaja`
`01:20.05`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`hombre, por mi no prob`
`01:20.11`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`pero habria q acerlo por partes xD`
`01:20.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`152 paquetes, eh ? xD`
`01:20.17`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, tmp hay que exportarlos en un dia`
`01:20.29`	`sinplomo`	`10 paquetes por dia no es muuuuuuuucho curro`
`01:20.39`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`01:20.59`	`Thanatermesis_`	`bueno, para facilitar trabajo podria hacer un nuevo feature a make-deb para que haga deb-src`
`01:21.36`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pero hay muchas cosas que no tienen codigo fuente, asi que a buscarlas por google xD`
`01:22.01`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis_, XD`
`01:22.31`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis_, tmb tienes que poner la feature de poder empaquetar arias cosas a la vez`
`01:22.40`	`sinplomo`	`bueno, aunque eso ya me lo hago yo`
`01:22.43`	`sinplomo`	`...`
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`01:23.34`	`Thanatermesis_`	`si, pero eso no es tan facil, habria que cambiar todo el codigo fuente para eso xD`
`01:23.45`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Rasko\|nikov hombre, si te aburres puedes empezar con el kernel ;)`
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`01:24.47`	`sinplomo`	`claro, el kernel es todo`
`01:24.48`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:24.53`	`Elive_user`	`hello all`
`01:25.01`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis_, mira como se ha callao el Rasko\|nikov`
`01:25.01`	`Elive_user`	`ive installed nautilus on elive`
`01:25.02`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:25.09`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`01:25.13`	`Elive_user`	`is there any way to get icons onto nautilus?`
`01:25.22`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Elive_user nautilus? o_O`
`01:25.23`	`Elive_user`	`like pictures in the icons?`
`01:25.24`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, use evidence`
`01:25.35`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, el explorador de files de gnome`
`01:25.53`	`Elive_user`	`sinplomo, i like nautilus, i like that it remembers where i put the windows and how i left them`
`01:26.09`	`Thanatermesis_`	`for what you need charge your computer and load the RAM with a nautilus loading all GNOME libs for only use a FileManager if you have Evidence where are based in the nautilus ?`
`01:27.21`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis_, evidence keeps crashing, and i like that nautilus remembers where i put the windows and their size?`
`01:27.53`	`Thanatermesis_`	`yes, the crash are posible solved for the next releases, its a simple bug in the code ;)`
`01:28.12`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es i like that nautilus remembers where i put the windows and their size?`
`01:28.37`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sorry`
`01:28.40`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ahra no puedo xD`
`01:28.40`	`Thanatermesis_`	`and your system not are more slow (or nautilus launch) with nautilus in your system ?`
`01:28.43`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`en otro momento`
`01:28.45`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xD`
`01:28.46`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`a2`
`01:28.46`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xDDDDDD`
`01:28.58`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sinplomo ala, a comprarse un amd64 ;)`
`01:29.10`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, it is slower, but not much, its fine`
`01:29.42`	`Thanatermesis_`	`oh, you have the choice of use what you like ;)`
`01:30.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`but the crash of evidence are simply a temporal problem`
`01:32.02`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, ok, thanks for letting me know, is it soon to be fixed?`
`01:32.20`	`Elive_user`	`or can i download a cvs version?`
`01:33.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`you are in Elive ?`
`01:34.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`installed ?`
`01:34.37`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`01:34.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`<Elive_user> Thanatermesis, ok, thanks for letting me know, is it soon to be fixed? <--- I need to look the problem with the developer, trace the results and look the cause`
`01:34.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`but have another problem`
`01:34.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`I have repackaged evidence`
`01:34.56`	`Elive_user`	`oh?`
`01:35.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`and Im really not posible to crash this for trace the problem`
`01:35.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:35.32`	`Elive_user`	`is there any way to get that package you have?`
`01:36.22`	`Elive_user`	`also`
`01:36.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, yes`
`01:36.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im send you and you try it ;)`
`01:36.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`and look if crash or not`
`01:36.41`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, please!!!!`
`01:36.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`and speak me your...`
`01:36.48`	`Elive_user`	`if thats of with you`
`01:36.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`your...`
`01:36.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`01:36.56`	`Elive_user`	`???`
`01:36.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x es en resultados`
`01:37.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`results? :/`
`01:37.11`	`Elive_user`	`yep, sure, ill let you know`
`01:38.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`--- Ofrece evidence_cvs20050828_i386.deb a Elive_user`
`01:38.47`	`Elive_user`	`gracias`
`01:38.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`try to crash and ... good luck lol`
`01:38.54`	`Elive_user`	`thanks :)`
`01:38.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`np`
`01:39.10`	`Elive_user`	`i will`
`01:39.36`	`Elive_user`	`also, where please would i put something to be executed once on login?`
`01:39.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user , normally... what aproximately % time are crashed ?`
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`01:39.46`	`Elive_user`	`100%`
`01:39.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`01:39.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`seriously ?`
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`01:40.01`	`Elive_user`	`yes`
`01:40.08`	`Elive_user`	`i just start it and it crashes`
`01:40.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`not any way to launch and use little this ?`
`01:40.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`wow`
`01:40.15`	`Elive_user`	`not now`
`01:40.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, try this package and inform me :)`
`01:40.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es inform`
`01:41.19`	`Elive_user`	`thanks, yes`
`01:41.21`	`Elive_user`	`i will`
`01:41.24`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, pasame ese paquete pliz`
`01:41.53`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sinplomo pufff, yo creo que te vas a esperar que son 12 mb xD`
`01:42.05`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis_, pos al http :)`
`01:42.06`	`Thanatermesis_`	`esperate a que encuentre el problema y lo borre definitivamente ;)`
`01:42.13`	`sinplomo`	`okis`
`01:42.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`total, ni lo usas xD`
`01:42.15`	`sinplomo`	`de todos modos`
`01:42.20`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, exacto`
`01:42.22`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:42.22`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xDDD`
`01:42.32`	`sinplomo`	`hago lo que quiero con una terminal siempre`
`01:42.44`	`Elive_user`	`also, where please would i put something to be executed once on login - i have a bash program that checks to see if eth0 is up if not it brings up ath0?`
`01:42.46`	`sinplomo`	`nisiquiera uso mucho el menu`
`01:42.46`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`01:42.49`	`Thanatermesis_`	`igual que yo, xD`
`01:43.23`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, you don't need a bash to do that`
`01:43.40`	`sinplomo`	`edit /etc/network/interface...`
`01:43.52`	`Thanatermesis_`	`que dice sinplomo ? que no tieene internet ?`
`01:43.56`	`Elive_user`	`sinplomo, oh?`
`01:44.04`	`Thanatermesis_`	`with scite ;)`
`01:44.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Elive_user you don't have internet ?`
`01:44.23`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis_, no, que tiene un script que mira si la eth0 esta up y si no lo esta lo hace`
`01:44.49`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ah pues.. dejalo, yoquesee, no se ni lo que quiere xD`
`01:44.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`bueno, voy a acabar esto...`
`01:45.02`	`Elive_user`	`i have two interfaces - ath0 and eth0, if eth0 did not go up it brings up ath0`
`01:45.31`	`Elive_user`	`i just want to know where to put it in the system when login`
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`01:46.05`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, put it on /etc/init.d/`
`01:46.11`	`sinplomo`	`for example`
`01:46.22`	`sinplomo`	`/etc/init.d/myscript`
`01:46.36`	`sinplomo`	`then do`
`01:46.39`	`sinplomo`	`update-rc.d`
`01:46.48`	`sinplomo`	`update-rc.d myscript defaults`
`01:47.06`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mejor solo en el rc2.d`
`01:47.20`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sino cuando apague la maquina tambien se lo lanzará simplomo y luego le romperás la Elive`
`01:47.21`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`01:47.33`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, bah, paso de compilarme la vida tio`
`01:47.52`	`Thanatermesis_`	`joder, pues dile que no haga eso, que solo ponga su script en /etc/rc2.d`
`01:48.02`	`Elive_user`	`sinplomo, ok, thanks ill give that a try`
`01:48.05`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, don't do update-rc.d myscript defaults`
`01:48.10`	`sinplomo`	`it dangerous`
`01:48.12`	`Elive_user`	`no?`
`01:48.13`	`sinplomo`	`:)`
`01:48.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`lol`
`01:48.20`	`Thanatermesis_`	`posible`
`01:48.43`	`sinplomo`	`do ln -s /etc/init.d/myscript /etc/rc2.d/S99myscript :=)`
`01:48.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`;)`
`01:49.06`	`nameles`	`XMMS seems to freeze at times...is that a known issue?`
`01:49.15`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis_, its finished, thx - ill try your evidence package now`
`01:49.21`	`Thanatermesis_`	`nameles elive-essence ?`
`01:49.39`	`Thanatermesis_`	`good Elive_user , try :)`
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`01:50.24`	`nameles`	`elive-essence worked but when I changed to a differenct station using streamtuner, xmms froze`
`01:50.54`	`Thanatermesis_`	`froze or updating the buffer ?`
`01:51.04`	`nameles`	`zfoze`
`01:51.12`	`nameles`	`can't move the window`
`01:51.35`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mmmh`
`01:51.42`	`Thanatermesis_`	`try to reload stations`
`01:52.18`	`nameles`	`tried... streamtuner seems to work but xmms is frozen.`
`01:52.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`strange.. in me works good`
`01:53.09`	`sinplomo`	`it works fine for me`
`01:53.10`	`nameles`	`E17`
`01:53.13`	`Thanatermesis_`	`try to upgrade the xmms conf`
`01:53.21`	`Thanatermesis_`	`yes, Im trying in e17`
`01:53.26`	`nameles`	`how?`
`01:54.06`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt-get update && apt-get install elive-skel`
`01:54.19`	`Thanatermesis_`	`after, with your user: elive-skel upgrade (and select ".xmms"`
`01:54.41`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis_, evidence crash 100% again, same message... you want me to paste it to you?`
`01:54.53`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mmmh`
`01:55.06`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Elive_user cat /etc/network/interfaces \| grep lo`
`01:55.26`	`Elive_user`	`auto lo eth0`
`01:55.26`	`Elive_user`	`iface lo inet loopback`
`01:55.33`	`Thanatermesis_`	`strange`
`01:55.41`	`Thanatermesis_`	`in my machine don't posible to crash`
`01:55.51`	`Elive_user`	`hmmm.....`
`01:55.54`	`Elive_user`	`its odd`
`01:56.36`	`Elive_user`	`i just deleted the config and same crash`
`01:56.39`	`Thanatermesis_`	`no way to crash lol`
`01:56.48`	`Elive_user`	`???`
`01:57.00`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Im don't have idea for this posibility...`
`01:57.05`	`Thanatermesis_`	`but is posible to make a test ;)`
`01:57.09`	`Elive_user`	`evidence doesnt like me, evidently`
`01:57.11`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mkdir /tmp/debug`
`01:57.28`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`01:57.31`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ahahaha, no, this is a old problem of I have, but for this moments, not posible to crash`
`01:57.52`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Im speak for you little steps for trace the bug...`
`01:58.15`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`01:58.16`	`nameles`	`when I do elive-skel upgrade I get "invalid group name 'elive'"`
`01:58.58`	`Thanatermesis_`	`nameles what user you have used for this ?`
`01:59.28`	`nameles`	`elive@elive`
`01:59.33`	`nameles`	`I exited out of root`
`01:59.56`	`nameles`	`sorry...`
`02:00.16`	`nameles`	`the command worked... I got the error when I selected .xmms`
`02:00.27`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hehe, ok`
`02:00.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ok Elive_user`
`02:01.03`	`Thanatermesis_`	`enter in the /tmp/debug dir`
`02:01.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`and type: ulimit -c 10000`
`02:01.39`	`Thanatermesis_`	`good ?`
`02:01.41`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`02:01.58`	`Thanatermesis_`	`launch evidence, wait the crash and look if you have a file called "core"`
`02:02.14`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`02:02.24`	`Elive_user`	`its crashing now.... :)`
`02:02.28`	`Thanatermesis_`	`good :)`
`02:02.33`	`Thanatermesis_`	`you have this file ?`
`02:02.47`	`Elive_user`	`not yet, its not finished crashing yet`
`02:03.03`	`nameles`	`I used xkill to kill xmms...now it won't launch at all. Whe I try from a command prompt... nothing...no error...nothing.`
`02:03.13`	`Thanatermesis_`	`not finished to crash ? lol its a long and big crash xD`
`02:03.35`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es I used xkill to kill xmms...now it won't launch at all. Whe I try from a command prompt... nothing...no error...nothing.`
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`02:03.59`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mmmh, I need to add xkill to the menus of Elive :o)`
`02:04.11`	`Thanatermesis_`	`nameles works good ?`
`02:04.34`	`nameles`	`xkill worked fine. xmms is dead.`
`02:04.39`	`Thanatermesis_`	`lol`
`02:04.49`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis_, its still going!!!!`
`02:04.52`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, hay una opcion que se llama aniquilar en e16`
`02:04.59`	`Thanatermesis_`	`delete all your xmms conf: rm -r $HOME/.xmms`
`02:05.11`	`roxville`	`where can i figure out how to tweak engage in e17? asking handyande?`
`02:05.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es its still going`
`02:05.29`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es tweak`
`02:05.42`	`Thanatermesis_`	`<apt_> el su ir del alambique <---- sinplomo ? o_O xD`
`02:05.54`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x es en el su ir del alambique`
`02:06.02`	`Thanatermesis_`	`xD`
`02:06.13`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Elive_user Im not understand :)`
`02:06.23`	`nameles`	`xmms still won't launch`
`02:06.32`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, "sigue funcionando/yendo" == "its still going"`
`02:06.35`	`Thanatermesis_`	`killall -9 xmms`
`02:06.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Elive_user oh, you don't have any more crash? :)`
`02:07.09`	`nameles`	`that worked`
`02:07.21`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, hasnt finished executing but it looks like its not writing to the disk anymore`
`02:07.27`	`Elive_user`	`what do you want me to do?`
`02:07.44`	`Thanatermesis_`	`need to wait a crash for to exist this "core" file`
`02:08.35`	`Thanatermesis_`	`close and relauch evidence`
`02:08.38`	`Elive_user`	`still no core file`
`02:08.39`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`02:09.04`	`Thanatermesis_`	`and "ulimit -c 10000" has worked good ? no error messages?`
`02:09.31`	`Thanatermesis_`	`you need to launch evidence from the SAME dir and the SAME terminal of you have set "ulimit -c 10000" Elive_user`
`02:09.52`	`Elive_user`	`oooh`
`02:09.54`	`Elive_user`	`ok`
`02:10.00`	`Elive_user`	`lemme do this again then`
`02:10.24`	`Elive_user`	`there it goes`
`02:10.39`	`Thanatermesis_`	`you have the file ?`
`02:11.13`	`Elive_user`	`no, it doesnt wana crash`
`02:11.19`	`Elive_user`	`its not working either`
`02:11.25`	`Elive_user`	`but its not crashing`
`02:12.05`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sinplomo que dice? no me acabo de enterar`
`02:12.28`	`sinplomo`	`no va`
`02:12.32`	`sinplomo`	`pero no crashea`
`02:12.33`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`02:12.54`	`Thanatermesis_`	`o_O a ver, evidence crashea o no ? como puede ir pero a la vez no ir ? no entiendo`
`02:14.14`	`sinplomo`	`Elive_user, evidence works fine ? or it crashes ?`
`02:16.29`	`Elive_user`	`it works!!!!!`
`02:16.38`	`Elive_user`	`it was just starting in another desktop`
`02:16.42`	`Elive_user`	`sorry :)`
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`02:17.44`	`Thanatermesis_`	`in another desktop? hehe`
`02:17.48`	`Thanatermesis_`	`no crash ?`
`02:18.11`	`Elive_user2`	`hey, its mazzi`
`02:18.23`	`Elive_user`	`thanks for all the help`
`02:18.39`	`Elive_user`	`i got to go now`
`02:19.22`	`Mazzi`	`can you update the page to say, thanks to r00tshell.com`
`02:19.25`	`Mazzi`	`instead off mazzi`
`02:20.18`	`Mazzi`	`and link to it`
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`02:20.42`	`Thanatermesis_`	`sinplomo entonces que pasó ? no le petó mas ?`
`02:21.01`	`Mazzi`	`i will email ya`
`02:22.26`	`Mazzi`	`email sent Thanatermesis_`
`02:22.36`	`Thanatermesis_`	`MMMH`
`02:22.38`	`Thanatermesis_`	`mmmh`
`02:22.41`	`Thanatermesis_`	`what mail?`
`02:23.19`	`sinplomo`	`night`
`02:23.33`	`Mazzi`	`gmail`
`02:23.40`	`Mazzi`	`later`
`02:23.51`	`Thanatermesis_`	`que mania la gente con desparecer xD`
`02:24.42`	`roxville`	`apt x es en que mania la gente con desparecer`
`02:24.55`	`roxville`	`lol`
`02:25.04`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hehe`
`02:25.45`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i think i'm going to write a song about apt. he's my new best friend!`
`02:26.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`lol`
`02:26.55`	`roxville`	`apt flamenco`
`02:27.21`	`roxville`	`ok...he does not like flamenco`
`02:28.10`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt do you like flamenco ?`
`02:28.11`	`apt`	`yes, I like flamenco.`
`02:28.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`lol`
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`02:28.39`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, are you awake 24 hrs a day now?`
`02:28.46`	`roxville`	`lol apt_`
`02:29.05`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hehehe, yes, very work ;)`
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`02:29.33`	`roxville`	`i bet! i come in at different times...and it seems you never sleep`
`02:30.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hehehe`
`02:30.21`	`roxville`	`yanks. come in, see spanish. take off`
`02:30.48`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es yanks. come in, see spanish. take off`
`02:31.46`	`roxville`	`apt x en es americans. they come in, see spanish, and disappear`
`02:31.56`	`Thanatermesis_`	`lol`
`02:32.51`	`roxville`	`apt x en es except fpr shadoi and handyande of course! :)`
`02:33.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`hehe`
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`02:33.56`	`roxville`	`wow, i understand whhy detour is still one of the most popular themes`
`02:34.41`	`Thanatermesis_`	`detour ? for e16 or e17 ?`
`02:34.52`	`roxville`	`e17`
`02:35.12`	`roxville`	`looks like it's based on detroit for e16`
`02:35.33`	`Thanatermesis_`	`pr0t0cod7 si tu veut metre la page de "bugs" c'est ok, tu peut deja metre que les "minimizations" des aplications il marche ;) ... en tout cas pr0t0cod7 , ça fait un bon temps je suis sur e17 et pas moyen de le crasher... lol`
`02:35.40`	`Thanatermesis_`	`yes`
`02:35.54`	`Thanatermesis_`	`but Im not sure if are... complete ? stable ?`
`02:36.22`	`roxville`	`apt x en es so far, so good`
`02:36.40`	`Thanatermesis_`	`good then`
`02:36.47`	`tcollins`	`Hey, I'm having some difficulty getting Elive to run properly on my system. It boots to runlevel 1 fine, but always locks up going to graphical. I assume this is a video driver problem (i've had identical symptoms with Xorg misconfigured in Slackware). Is there a script in Elive to autoconfigure XF86 (something like xorgsetup) or do i need to hunt the problem down by hand?`
`02:36.48`	`roxville`	`:)`
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`02:37.40`	`roxville`	`dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 maybe?`
`02:38.16`	`Thanatermesis_`	`this not really works good, for very persons, not make changes`
`02:38.21`	`tcollins`	`from bash, after booting, right?`
`02:38.22`	`roxville`	`that will also set your keyboard to us, not uk`
`02:38.22`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es or do i need to hunt the problem down by hand?`
`02:38.36`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, the repository path you gave me worked...actually i'm running E17 right now...and I suspect I'll go back to anything else :)`
`02:38.49`	`roxville`	`yes, log in as root`
`02:38.52`	`tcollins`	`ok`
`02:38.54`	`Thanatermesis_`	`tcollins posible look your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file and look if all are correct`
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`02:39.26`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gammal for amd64 ?`
`02:39.33`	`tcollins`	`ok, I'll try that, thanks`
`02:39.35`	`Thanatermesis_`	`apt x en es and I suspect I'll go back to anything else`
`02:39.35`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, yes`
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`02:40.08`	`Thanatermesis_`	`good gammal , I have maked this packages... mmmh, in 2 months before. its good to work fine :)`
`02:40.22`	`Thanatermesis_`	`with a ssh amd64 machine access`
`02:40.28`	`roxville`	`apt x en es ...seems i always take the long way around things..you guys know the tricks!`
`02:40.49`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, you're my hero!`
`02:40.57`	`Thanatermesis_`	`lol`
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`02:41.14`	`roxville`	`better than Heros De Silencio!`
`02:41.14`	`Thanatermesis_`	`works fine gammal ? you look the diferent speed ?`
`02:41.17`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, there are a few things missing though...where can i get other themes??`
`02:41.55`	`Thanatermesis_`	`install themes from the repository of the topic, are in "all" architectures, normally this are good and not cause any problem for you`
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`02:42.43`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, i don't understand...which repository?`
`02:42.59`	`roxville`	`and then read how to copy them from /usr/share to /home/yourusername/.e`
`02:43.02`	`Thanatermesis_`	`evas_software_x11_test <-- gammal, launch this for look your diferent benchmark in their packages in amd64 or the another packages in x86 ex. elive`
`02:43.17`	`Thanatermesis_`	`gammal read the topic`
`02:44.40`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, I ran evas_software_x11_test, do you want to know the numbers?`
`02:45.51`	`Thanatermesis_`	`no, Im don't know, only compare you in your ssytems, in x86 compiled e17 or amd64 packages ;)`
`02:45.58`	`Thanatermesis_`	`and look the diferents benchmarks`
`02:46.09`	`gammal`	`Thanatermesis, fine...may be later then`
`02:56.48`	`Thanatermesis_`	`finally, all eaps repaired...`
`02:57.32`	`roxville`	`cool!`
`02:58.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`strange...`
`02:58.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`people speak "e17 segfault..." but I don't have looked any segfault :)`
`02:58.37`	`roxville`	`i've had it too`
`02:58.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es i've had it too`
`02:59.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have segfault ?`
`02:59.07`	`roxville`	`yes`
`02:59.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`posible, e17 are in construction, not are finished ;)`
`02:59.49`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i didn't think about, because e17 is not really ready yet`
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`02:59.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`but not is really big segfaults...`
`03:00.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`yeah`
`03:00.19`	`roxville`	`no, not major`
`03:00.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`<< but not is really big noise...`
`03:01.05`	`roxville`	`apt x en es it is ironic that the best looking windowmanager is so little known`
`03:01.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha`
`03:01.20`	`roxville`	`apt x en es and it is also one of the fastest`
`03:01.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`don't worry, its must better to little people know with segfaults, to very peopple trying and don't undestand the crashes ;)`
`03:02.37`	`roxville`	`haha, yes i see what you mean`
`03:03.06`	`roxville`	`but e16 is very nice also`
`03:03.27`	`roxville`	`apt x en es that's what i use most of the time`
`03:03.51`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i think it is even faster than xfce`
`03:04.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, but the problem are not very peopple knows/apreciate e16`
`03:04.31`	`roxville`	`exactly`
`03:04.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`but e16 are: fast, stable, customizable... and really more fast for work, if you need any, you have... its all of you need...`
`03:05.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`and another most important point...`
`03:05.16`	`roxville`	`apt x en es but when i showed it to my brother in law, he said: I WANT THIS!`
`03:05.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`e16 is from 5 years to old ;)`
`03:05.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahah`
`03:05.42`	`roxville`	`yes`
`03:05.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`its old, compare the WM from the year 2000`
`03:06.05`	`roxville`	`apt x en es and he is a windows professional`
`03:06.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`03:06.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`stable, fast, accesible, light, eye-candy, transparencies without CPU consomation... you need more? ;)`
`03:07.02`	`roxville`	`no, that's all you need :)`
`03:07.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehehe`
`03:07.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`you use evidence ?`
`03:07.58`	`roxville`	`apt x en es it is a little complicated at first to set things and find them, because it is so different from windows or even gnome and kde`
`03:08.27`	`roxville`	`evidence is good...almost too much eye candy`
`03:08.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, sure, but only need to show to the people all configured ready to use, with a panel of control for manage the system... = elive :)`
`03:08.42`	`roxville`	`and it chrashes... so xfe for now`
`03:08.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha, yes, it crashes very in your machine ?`
`03:09.07`	`roxville`	`exactly, that's why you have an advantage here`
`03:09.23`	`roxville`	`not in e16, but in e17`
`03:09.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im speaking with the developer of evidence for debug and repair this little bug, but I have another problem...`
`03:10.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im REALLY not posible to crash in this moments lol`
`03:10.22`	`roxville`	`LOL, really?`
`03:10.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`03:10.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`do you like to send this package for you try to crash ?`
`03:10.43`	`roxville`	`not once?`
`03:10.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`not posible, Im launched +/- 50 steps`
`03:11.01`	`roxville`	`the DCC still does not work`
`03:11.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes :/`
`03:11.28`	`roxville`	`wow, that's incredible...all i have to do, is look at it`
`03:11.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im not have modified the source, ONLY I have recompiled with debugger flag and delete the optimization flag`
`03:11.33`	`roxville`	`and it crashes`
`03:11.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is the only posible reason for not crashing`
`03:11.52`	`pr0t0cod7`	`not so accessible...too much options... a lot of people are lost in enlightenment, they don't find their marks like in gnome/kde imitating shit..`
`03:11.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`lo`
`03:11.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`03:11.58`	`roxville`	`yes, it is...weird`
`03:12.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`but for me.. a lot of options is hard, Im like little options, not all options with a similar name hehe`
`03:13.13`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i saw a howto on "enlightened gnome". pretty cool, works faster than just gnome`
`03:13.53`	`roxville`	`half gnome, half enlightenment`
`03:14.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: ok je verrai demain pour la page..pas motivé aujourdhui :s`
`03:14.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`compilation launched`
`03:14.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`pas de probleme pr0t0cod7`
`03:15.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es half`
`03:15.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`enlightened gnome ?`
`03:15.58`	`roxville`	`yes`
`03:17.11`	`roxville`	`apt x en es google it and see if you like it. it's in the ubuntu forums (of course!)`
`03:17.29`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ubuntu..`
`03:18.00`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i must say that elive is really, really growing on me. it is very good`
`03:18.19`	`roxville`	`lol pr0t0cod7`
`03:18.51`	`pr0t0cod7`	`what the fuck is ubuntu ! :)`
`03:18.57`	`roxville`	`lol`
`03:18.57`	`pr0t0cod7`	`apt_: ubuntu`
`03:19.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`Rasterman: The creator of Enlightenment that has magic code pour from his fingers. He is the only reason this works at all.`
`03:19.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt ubuntu`
`03:19.10`	`apt`	`hmm... ubuntu is caca from this ass http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3843/18427557718e22857e9rb.jpg`
`03:19.15`	`pr0t0cod7`	`xDD`
`03:19.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:19.43`	`roxville`	`yes i saw it last night...`
`03:19.47`	`pr0t0cod7`	`nice pic xD`
`03:20.09`	`roxville`	`yes, nice asses`
`03:21.06`	`roxville`	`apt x en es all i was talking about was the howto on enlightened gnome`
`03:21.39`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hehe`
`03:22.05`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i'm sorry if going to ubuntu's site will turn your penises to raisins`
`03:22.46`	`roxville`	`apt x en es and i did not mean to offend anybody with that, it was just a joke`
`03:23.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`03:24.32`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i tried it for a short time, and it was much faster than just gnome`
`03:25.01`	`roxville`	`apt x en es ok, i'm done. lol`
`03:25.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`nobody feels offended (at least not me)`
`03:25.26`	`roxville`	`good`
`03:26.51`	`pr0t0cod7`	`inreressant http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=1810`
`03:27.06`	`pr0t0cod7`	`thats what they call enlightened gnome :P`
`03:27.07`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i thought you guys could find a way to make it even better`
`03:27.47`	`roxville`	`gdesklets`
`03:27.49`	`roxville`	`bah`
`03:27.58`	`pr0t0cod7`	`beurk`
`03:28.19`	`pr0t0cod7`	`ibar looks much better`
`03:28.35`	`roxville`	`oh yes. and engage`
`03:28.55`	`roxville`	`i want ALL the distros to use engage instead`
`03:29.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville adesklets ;)`
`03:29.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`is based in the E libs`
`03:29.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`its REALLY light`
`03:29.58`	`roxville`	`really? COOL!`
`03:30.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`0 cpu ;)`
`03:30.09`	`roxville`	`just type into eterm?`
`03:30.20`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: yeah but not much plugins..`
`03:30.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`im posible include for the any next release`
`03:30.29`	`roxville`	`0 cpu? does it work at all? lol`
`03:30.30`	`pr0t0cod7`	`look http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=281853&postcount=1`
`03:30.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville Im don't know really the configuration... ask sinplomo`
`03:30.40`	`roxville`	`ok`
`03:30.53`	`pr0t0cod7`	`this guy has more than 4000 posts and don't even seem to now what he talks about`
`03:31.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 but... exist a plugin, based in your script command, you can posible to make your personal plugin very easy ;)`
`03:31.42`	`pr0t0cod7`	`hmm i prefer torsmo xD`
`03:31.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`I have a little question...`
`03:31.50`	`pr0t0cod7`	`0% cpu ;=)`
`03:32.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`WHY use gnome + enlightenemnt if are using enlighenment? o_O`
`03:32.11`	`pr0t0cod7`	`and verrrry little memory`
`03:33.02`	`roxville`	`i have to install first?`
`03:33.17`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: because the guy believes he's using enlightenment _inside_ of gnome xD`
`03:33.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:33.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/tmpfs/iconos)==--> enlightenment_eapp -get-name alsamixer.eap`
`03:33.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`Alsa mixer`
`03:33.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`good :)`
`03:33.47`	`pr0t0cod7`	`gtk is enough`
`03:33.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im posible to finish my script :)`
`03:33.51`	`roxville`	`well, you take metacity out and load e instead`
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`03:34.57`	`pr0t0cod7`	`just launch enlightenment, and gnome-panel/nautilus after`
`03:35.04`	`roxville`	`hola felix, como estas?`
`03:35.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`03:37.01`	`felix`	`roxville: hmmm not so good`
`03:37.10`	`felix`	`roxville: i got home, and i'm feeling really ill`
`03:37.28`	`felix`	`roxville: how about you?`
`03:37.31`	`roxville`	`sorry to hear that...too much argentinian rum?`
`03:37.34`	`felix`	`s/how/what/`
`03:37.47`	`felix`	`roxville: "rum"? what's the meaning of rum?`
`03:37.50`	`felix`	`traducir en_es rum`
`03:37.52`	`elive-bot`	`felix: ron`
`03:37.55`	`felix`	`ahhh`
`03:37.56`	`pr0t0cod7`	`lol`
`03:38.00`	`roxville`	`i'm pretty goof, learning more e all the time`
`03:38.02`	`felix`	`roxville: we don't have rum in argentina`
`03:38.22`	`felix`	`roxville: i mean... our "typical drink" is...`
`03:38.23`	`roxville`	`goof - f =d =good`
`03:38.36`	`felix`	`traducir es_en licor`
`03:38.38`	`elive-bot`	`felix: licor`
`03:38.41`	`felix`	`hmmm`
`03:39.02`	`roxville`	`liquor`
`03:39.12`	`felix`	`roxville: in fact we don't have a typical drink (except mate, but it doesn't have alcohol)`
`03:39.26`	`roxville`	`i still love mate`
`03:39.28`	`felix`	`recordar licor liquor`
`03:39.35`	`felix`	`roxville: did you drink mate?`
`03:39.46`	`roxville`	`os yes, since i was a kid`
`03:40.20`	`roxville`	`my grand mother was a vegan before the word was even invented :)`
`03:40.30`	`roxville`	`she taught mne how to drink it`
`03:40.53`	`roxville`	`she lived in brazil for a short time when SHE was a kid, maybe she picked it up there`
`03:41.32`	`roxville`	`it's pretty common all over south america...isn't it?`
`03:41.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`fuck !!!! Im not posible to crash evidence !`
`03:41.45`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`03:42.02`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, able`
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`03:42.44`	`roxville`	`what does recordar licor taste like?`
`03:42.57`	`roxville`	`i know i love my yrbas!`
`03:43.01`	`roxville`	`yerbas`
`03:43.11`	`felix`	`roxville: it is VERY common here to drink mate...`
`03:43.50`	`roxville`	`also: look into red tea, or rooibos, from south africa`
`03:44.03`	`felix`	`roxville: red tea?`
`03:44.03`	`roxville`	`naturally caffeine free...and very good :)`
`03:44.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`red tea ?`
`03:44.18`	`roxville`	`yep`
`03:44.32`	`felix`	`roxville: i guess it is impossible to get that kind of tea here`
`03:44.48`	`roxville`	`i don't think so`
`03:45.01`	`roxville`	`try some kind of health food store`
`03:45.41`	`roxville`	`it has a lot of potassium, or kalium...very good to stay hydrated`
`03:46.15`	`felix`	`elive-bot: recordar licor liquor`
`03:46.16`	`elive-bot`	`felix: licor recordado!`
`03:46.18`	`felix`	`licor`
`03:46.21`	`elive-bot`	`felix: liquor`
`03:46.23`	`felix`	`good`
`03:47.04`	`roxville`	`mate in the us is so expensive it is STUPID`
`03:47.30`	`felix`	`expensive?`
`03:47.31`	`felix`	`why?`
`03:47.53`	`roxville`	`don't know, but all teas are really expensive here`
`03:48.47`	`felix`	`here... one of the best yerbas you can get in the supermarket is around USD1.5`
`03:48.50`	`roxville`	`in sweden it's cheap...i never thought it could be this expensive here`
`03:49.09`	`roxville`	`wow, argentina, here i come!`
`03:50.22`	`felix`	`hehe`
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`03:50.45`	`felix`	`roxville: Argentina is a PARADISE for people who earns in euros or USD`
`03:51.57`	`roxville`	`so i hear. sweden has a long history with argentina for some reason. maybe i'll go some day`
`03:51.58`	`felix`	`roxville: Example food... you can go to the best restaurant in the city, eat the best food in the world, drink two bottles (yes, BOTTLES) of wine, dessert , etc.etc. for around... USD20 each person`
`03:52.44`	`roxville`	`YAY! evidence did NOT crash! first time!`
`03:52.45`	`felix`	`roxville: one of the most famous football teams in Argentina got the colours of its t-shirts from sweeden flag.`
`03:53.07`	`felix`	`the name of the team is "Boca Juniors"`
`03:53.20`	`roxville`	`cool!`
`03:53.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`03:53.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`how to posible ?`
`03:53.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`03:53.52`	`roxville`	`i do not know Thanatermesis , it just loaded`
`03:55.18`	`felix`	`traducir es_en bacteria`
`03:55.20`	`elive-bot`	`felix: bacterium`
`03:55.25`	`felix`	`............ == bacterium`
`03:55.26`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i still can't make my firewire drive mount. so weird`
`03:56.22`	`roxville`	`i wish i could afford one. and a mac`
`03:56.34`	`felix`	`traducir en_es afford`
`03:56.35`	`elive-bot`	`felix: produzca`
`03:56.44`	`felix`	`hmmm`
`03:56.46`	`roxville`	`make Thanatermesis complie a ppc version for me and...just fly...`
`03:57.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`you have a ppc machine ?`
`03:57.28`	`felix`	`roxville: it is possible to run a ipodLinux in it ... i don't know if i'll check if it works`
`03:57.34`	`roxville`	`apt x en es no, i just said i wish i did`
`03:57.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`you send me a ppc machine and Im make a Elive version for ppc? O:)`
`03:58.21`	`roxville`	`yes felix, but i hevn't seen it...i read about it somewhere`
`03:59.25`	`roxville`	`apt x en es Thanatermesis, if i had the money to buy one, i would keep it!`
`03:59.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`03:59.51`	`roxville`	`apt x en es then, when i had money for another mac, i would send you one`
`04:00.45`	`roxville`	`i want an imac g5`
`04:00.50`	`felix`	`roxville: can you see?`
`04:00.57`	`felix`	`roxville: you will be learning spanish with apt_`
`04:01.12`	`roxville`	`i know, it is sooo cool!`
`04:01.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`arrrrghhhh !!!! no way posible to crash evidence !!!!!`
`04:01.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`but...`
`04:01.28`	`roxville`	`estas bueno!!`
`04:01.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`this is good! :)`
`04:01.55`	`felix`	`roxville: "estas bueno" ?`
`04:02.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`04:02.10`	`felix`	`roxville: are you trying to get a date with Thanatermesis ?`
`04:02.11`	`roxville`	`es bueno?`
`04:02.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`felix es una pregunta "indirecta" o de duda? xD`
`04:02.29`	`roxville`	`easy now felix! lol`
`04:03.00`	`felix`	`:)`
`04:03.05`	`roxville`	`apt x en es it is good`
`04:03.26`	`roxville`	`es bueno...see i figured it out by myself!`
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`04:03.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville very posible for this day or tomorrow Im upload the evidence in the repository and without problems of crash ;)`
`04:03.48`	`felix`	`traducir en_es arise`
`04:03.56`	`elive-bot`	`felix: pres�ntese`
`04:04.13`	`roxville`	`cool Thanatermesis !`
`04:04.49`	`roxville`	`apt x en es i fear you will die from all this Thanatermesis , but we will have a very good distro to remember you by!`
`04:05.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`LOL`
`04:05.38`	`roxville`	`we will call it ThanatErminux`
`04:05.50`	`felix`	`traducir es_en epitafio`
`04:05.52`	`elive-bot`	`felix: epitafio`
`04:05.57`	`felix`	`argh`
`04:06.11`	`roxville`	`apt x es en epitafio`
`04:06.18`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:07.03`	`felix`	`roxville: it is the same engine`
`04:07.09`	`felix`	`roxville: but i got the word in another dictionary`
`04:07.19`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, i saw you have ardour in repo. very good!`
`04:07.22`	`felix`	`roxville: Now we got an "epitaph" for Thanatermesis`
`04:07.43`	`felix`	`"He make evidence works over all people around the world. Rest in peace."`
`04:07.44`	`roxville`	`ahhh... yes!`
`04:08.02`	`felix`	`and, of course... thanks for your distro`
`04:08.04`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:08.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville you can posible to make a test in e17 for me if you have time ?`
`04:08.10`	`felix`	`:)`
`04:08.13`	`roxville`	`well...he's not dead yet`
`04:08.16`	`Elive_user`	`thanks for an awsome distro`
`04:08.20`	`felix`	`roxville: please say no`
`04:08.20`	`felix`	`roxville: please say no`
`04:08.21`	`felix`	`roxville: please say no`
`04:08.27`	`felix`	`}:)`
`04:08.38`	`Elive_user`	`loaded it today and I like what I'm seeing so far`
`04:08.40`	`roxville`	`sure dude!`
`04:08.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`04:08.56`	`felix`	`roxville: :-/ (you must say NO :)`
`04:09.09`	`roxville`	`suck it up Thanatermesis!`
`04:09.16`	`roxville`	`why felix?`
`04:09.35`	`felix`	`roxville: donno, just to make Thanatermesis a little bit annoyed :)`
`04:09.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville I have remaked all e17 icons, I need to sure works good, you can posible to test if all programs are good launched and have the icon visualized in the left-up corner ?`
`04:10.04`	`roxville`	`trust me, i annoy him enough with my ubuntu-talk!`
`04:10.12`	`felix`	`hehe`
`04:10.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es trust me, i annoy him enough with my ubuntu-talk!`
`04:10.19`	`felix`	`roxville: are you using ubuntu!?`
`04:10.59`	`roxville`	`yes Thanatermesis , but i can't accept DCC. so... how?`
`04:11.12`	`Thanatermesis`	`I have apache server ;)`
`04:11.24`	`roxville`	`yes felix, i do, but i'm in elive right now`
`04:11.36`	`roxville`	`easier to get to this channel that way :)`
`04:11.52`	`felix`	`HahahaA`
`04:12.00`	`roxville`	`vary good Thanatermesis tell me what do do, master!`
`04:12.13`	`felix`	`Linux claxon 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #1 Tue Jul 19 11:14:49 ART 2005 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux`
`04:12.54`	`roxville`	`gentoo eh? congratulations!`
`04:13.30`	`felix`	`roxville: why?`
`04:13.55`	`felix`	`roxville: to waste a lot of time of my beautiful CPU to compile every fux1ng package?`
`04:13.58`	`roxville`	`because it is a son-of-a-bitch to set up, that's why!`
`04:14.01`	`felix`	`roxville: well.. thanks :)`
`04:14.21`	`felix`	`roxville: nope... how-tos are VERY easy to follow`
`04:14.25`	`roxville`	`just to be able to say: emerge`
`04:16.38`	`roxville`	`maybe i'll try it some day... but now i have elive...i am eliiive!`
`04:17.33`	`felix`	`next commercial will say:`
`04:17.40`	`felix`	`"free your live with Elive!"`
`04:17.53`	`roxville`	`but ubuntu was my first true love in linux. i hated suse, mandrake and almost all the other rpm ones`
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`04:18.08`	`roxville`	`blag is not bad`
`04:18.16`	`felix`	`and in the background Thanatermesis will be running on a beach with a few dolphins jumping over the sea`
`04:18.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`04:18.33`	`felix`	`(of course ... it is very cheesy)`
`04:18.36`	`roxville`	`lol`
`04:18.56`	`roxville`	`"is it elive or is it memorex?"`
`04:19.09`	`felix`	`roxville: i think is both :)`
`04:19.10`	`felix`	`well`
`04:19.14`	`roxville`	`sleep well amigo!`
`04:19.14`	`felix`	`good night people`
`04:19.21`	`felix`	`roxville: have a good rest`
`04:19.24`	`felix`	`Thanatermesis: que duermas bien`
`04:19.29`	`roxville`	`you too dude :)`
`04:19.31`	`felix`	`see you tomorrow and... bye!`
`04:19.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`good night felix`
`04:20.13`	`roxville`	`hasta luego`
`04:20.38`	`roxville`	`y manana`
`04:21.18`	`roxville`	`looks really bad without the ~`
`04:21.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`04:21.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`its really more bad to type "año" without ~`
`04:22.09`	`roxville`	`does evidence have it's own theme?`
`04:22.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`año = year, ano = ass hole`
`04:22.19`	`roxville`	`LOL`
`04:22.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehehe`
`04:22.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es does evidence have it's own theme?`
`04:22.52`	`roxville`	`i have to remember that one`
`04:22.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`heheh`
`04:23.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`what speak for evidence? im not understand`
`04:24.04`	`roxville`	`apt x en es does evidence have it's own theme? the folders look so different`
`04:24.11`	`roxville`	`they are NOT eXquisite folders`
`04:25.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes`
`04:25.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`its a hack`
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`04:25.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`of the exquisite icons and the default theme of evidence`
`04:25.59`	`roxville`	`it is a little confusing`
`04:26.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`but the folders are must eye-candy ;)`
`04:27.12`	`roxville`	`they look really good!`
`04:27.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`04:27.42`	`roxville`	`but it is so far from eXquisite that it is...confusing at first`
`04:28.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes but... how you have looked the exquisite folder icon ?`
`04:28.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`only in dock bar ?`
`04:29.54`	`roxville`	`apt x en es..it's just me. i have used the eXquisite icons for a while now. to see those other folders was very ... surprising`
`04:30.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`im posible ot change this icon in the dock for the "typicall" evidence icon`
`04:30.30`	`roxville`	`no!`
`04:30.41`	`roxville`	`i LOVE the eXquisite icons!`
`04:30.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahahaha`
`04:30.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, nice icons`
`04:32.22`	`roxville`	`i have to go to bed. my daughter will wake me up VERY early`
`04:32.34`	`roxville`	`you should sleep a little too`
`04:32.38`	`roxville`	`:)`
`04:33.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://thana.no-ip.org/tmp/tmp/evidence_cvs20050828elive1_i386.deb`
`04:33.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`04:33.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`try this`
`04:33.38`	`roxville`	`ok`
`04:33.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`you are the first for upgrade to a better and stable evidence ;)`
`04:33.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`after 4 hours, this are included in the oficial repository ;)`
`04:34.26`	`roxville`	`YES!`
`04:34.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`and for the icons... I need to set this more patiently`
`04:35.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`I need to go sleep :)`
`04:35.20`	`roxville`	`hasta mana hombre`
`04:35.26`	`roxville`	`manana`
`04:35.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`good night`
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`06:02.19`	`quidam-`	`hola`
`06:02.25`	`quidam-`	`alguien que me pueda responder algunas preguntas`
`06:02.28`	`quidam-`	`???`
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`07:35.14`	`volvoguy`	`hey people! this might be a silly question, but i'm adding elive to a drive that already has ubuntu on it and i want to continue using it's grub. when i try to add the entry for elive, there's no initrd file in elive's /boot directory. where is it? :)`
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`07:54.18`	`synd`	`someone told me here yesterday`
`07:54.22`	`synd`	`just cant remember`
`08:00.26`	`synd`	`anyone?`
`08:04.42`	`volvoguy`	`sorry. i just installed elive 5 minutes ago. :)`
`08:05.05`	`synd`	`hard disk install?`
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`10:24.23`	`yashpal`	`i use elive .3 my spec is amd athlon xP 2600 with asus a7v8x m bo 256 mb ram samsung sp1140 hdd .my graphivcal s/m is via unichrome when i exit elive i get a nasty screen and everything crashes plz help`
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`10:24.38`	`Elive_user3`	`hi`
`10:24.47`	`HandyAndE`	`will elive run OK on an old 166?`
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`10:40.19`	`yashpal`	`hio`
`10:45.54`	`Elive_user2`	`if an elive hard drive install didn't configure the video card correctly, is there a better way to adjust it than editing the config files?`
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`10:47.49`	`nomed`	`Elive_user2, xf86config but the best way is editing the config file`
`10:48.08`	`Elive_user2`	`ok. thanks nomed. will do. :)`
`10:48.30`	`Elive_user2`	`but first... how in the heck do i get a bigger terminal font?!`
`10:50.46`	`Elive_user2`	`and are there any other "best practices" for setting up a fresh install? this is the first usable e17 desktop i've ever tried, so i'm unfamiliar with all the goodies.`
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`11:01.45`	`nomed`	`what is the bin name of the cdrecord frontend ?`
`11:02.14`	`Elive_user2`	`are you thinking of gnomebaker?`
`11:03.00`	`Elive_user2`	`that seems to be in the default menus.`
`11:03.18`	`yashpal`	`how can i access windows network using samba?`
`11:03.25`	`nomed`	`no .. the curses frontend`
`11:04.05`	`Elive_user2`	`cdw?`
`11:04.35`	`nomed`	`Elive_user2, could you just type dpkg -l \| grep cdw`
`11:04.47`	`nomed`	`and tell me the ver ?`
`11:05.04`	`Elive_user2`	`dpkg -l \| grep cdw`
`11:05.09`	`Elive_user2`	`heh. oops.`
`11:05.13`	`nomed`	`eheh`
`11:05.15`	`Elive_user2`	`i don't have it installled.`
`11:05.31`	`nomed`	`you're not on elive ?`
`11:05.43`	`Elive_user2`	`the latest version in the repository is 0.2.3-3`
`11:06.07`	`Elive_user2`	`yeah, i am. is there a different version in elive's repository?`
`11:06.24`	`nomed`	`Elive_user2, so it's not cdw`
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`11:07.50`	`Elive_user2`	`hmm.`
`11:08.23`	`haque`	`hi there`
`11:08.48`	`haque`	`I have a problem with booting elive`
`11:08.51`	`Elive_user2`	`hi haque`
`11:09.08`	`haque`	`I have a Sony VAIO laptop`
`11:09.28`	`haque`	`PIII ~ 650MHz`
`11:09.45`	`haque`	`My CDROM drive is external`
`11:09.57`	`haque`	`I connect it with PCMCI`
`11:10.12`	`haque`	`when I want to boot elive`
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`11:10.41`	`haque`	`It stops when checking for elive image in CDROM`
`11:10.55`	`haque`	`it says there's no CDROM drive`
`11:11.37`	`nomed`	`haque, do you know the modules you normally use?`
`11:11.42`	`Elive_user2`	`hmm. did you burn the disc at a high speed? i've found that live cd's can be picky about burn speed.`
`11:11.47`	`haque`	`I have no idea`
`11:12.08`	`haque`	`I burnt it with 32x`
`11:12.28`	`nomed`	`haque, it's probably a modules problem`
`11:12.28`	`Elive_user2`	`disc at once or track at once?`
`11:12.43`	`nomed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:13.04`	`haque`	`I dont remember but it works with other PCs`
`11:13.38`	`haque`	`I mean with IDE CDROM`
`11:13.55`	`nomed`	`haque, it would be nice it you try to figure the PCMCI modlues you need`
`11:14.25`	`haque`	`how can I do it`
`11:15.30`	`haque`	`grub is loading and I can see the beautiful image saying`
`11:15.45`	`haque`	`elive where enlightenment meets debian`
`11:16.02`	`haque`	`but when it searches for image then it fails to get one`
`11:16.41`	`haque`	`I mean it cannot find it in /udev or something like it`
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`11:19.46`	`nomed`	`haque, your modules are not laded`
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`11:20.17`	`nomed`	`it can't mount your cdrom and find the morphix file`
`11:21.19`	`haque`	`yes thats right`
`11:22.09`	`bit0`	`hola/hello`
`11:24.47`	`nomed`	`hola bit0`
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`11:43.24`	`azzazus`	`i upgraded the login manager, and, i don't like it the new one, how do i get the old one back?`
`11:47.35`	`azzazus`	`how do i un-upgrade and get the old version of a package back?`
`11:48.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`not posible azzazus , only configure it`
`11:48.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`one second`
`11:50.17`	`azzazus`	`which version of entrance came with elive?`
`11:52.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus read the tuning section, I have writed how to change your theme and configuration`
`11:52.16`	`elive-bot`	`Thanatermesis: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work`
`11:54.43`	`*** mode/#elive [+o Thanatermesis] by ChanServ`
`11:54.46`	`* topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/8022" \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org * NEW DOMAIN ! *** \|\| your installed Elive are slow? www.elivecd.org/tunning.html \|\| if you have a problem with entrance, contact Thanatermesis \|\| evidence crash ? upgrade this`
`11:54.53`	`*** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis`
`11:55.12`	`nomed`	`hola Thanatermesis ...`
`11:55.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`hola nomed`
`11:55.33`	`nomed`	`what's the cdrecord frontend bin name?`
`11:55.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`por lo visto hay MUCHA gente con el problema de la resolucion, no? :/`
`11:55.41`	`nomed`	`the curses one?`
`11:55.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`11:55.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`dialogcd from my memory`
`11:56.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes, and included in Elive`
`11:56.55`	`CGA_busy`	`Thanatermesis, te gusta el mio tuning_elive.txt?`
`11:57.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`CGA_busy al final no tuve tiempo de mirarlo, pero se lo di a pr0t0cod7 , no estoy seguro que hizo algo ayer, me parece que no se encontraba muy bien`
`11:57.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 es el "oficial maintainer" de la pagina de Elive ;)`
`11:58.16`	`CGA_busy`	`apt es en al final no tuve tiempo de mirarlo, pero se lo di a pr0t0cod7 , no estoy seguro que hizo algo ayer, me parece que no se encontraba muy bien`
`11:58.27`	`CGA_busy`	`apt es en x al final no tuve tiempo de mirarlo, pero se lo di a pr0t0cod7 , no estoy seguro que hizo algo ayer, me parece que no se encontraba muy bien`
`11:58.36`	`CGA_busy`	`come se usa apt?`
`11:58.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive.org is primarily maintained by:Alexandre 'pr0t0cod7' Dhaussy ;)`
`11:58.47`	`CGA_busy`	`i know`
`11:59.01`	`CGA_busy`	`how to translate with apt?`
`11:59.05`	`nomed`	`non ha avuto tempo per gurdarlo .. lo fara' pr0t0cod7`
`11:59.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`add the "x", example: apt x es en text`
`11:59.26`	`CGA_busy`	`apt x es en al final no tuve tiempo de mirarlo, pero se lo di a pr0t0cod7 , no estoy seguro que hizo algo ayer, me parece que no se encontraba muy bien`
`11:59.58`	`azzazus`	`Thanatermesis, which theme came with elive?`
`12:00.05`	`CGA_busy`	`Thanatermesis, ok voi a preguntar a pr0t0cod7`
`12:00.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok CGA_busy`
`12:00.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`azzazus "darkrock"`
`12:00.36`	`CGA_busy`	`nomed, grazie della traduzione`
`12:00.54`	`nomed`	`di nulla :)`
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`12:15.42`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, evidence is doing good! so far, no crashes`
`12:16.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`:)`
`12:16.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`no crashes ? no only one crash ?`
`12:17.15`	`roxville`	`no, not one. so far`
`12:17.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`good :)`
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`12:17.59`	`roxville`	`i opened like 12 windows, did a killall and opened again. no problem`
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`12:18.31`	`Thanatermesis`	`hi mariodebian`
`12:18.39`	`mariodebian`	`hola Thana`
`12:18.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`perfect roxville :)`
`12:18.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`que tal todo mariodebian ?`
`12:19.25`	`mariodebian`	`Thanatermesis: muy bien... haceindo las maletas para mañana...`
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`12:20.40`	`felix`	`roxville: do you sleep?`
`12:20.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`de viaje mariodebian ?`
`12:20.56`	`Elive_user`	`Superbe travail Thanatermesis !`
`12:20.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`yop felix`
`12:21.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`merci Elive_user :)`
`12:21.08`	`mariodebian`	`Thanatermesis: si a dar una charla en Fuerteventura`
`12:21.20`	`roxville`	`yes felix, i do. i just woke up. i went to bed shortly after you`
`12:21.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`vaya, pues buena suerte mariodebian ;)`
`12:21.24`	`roxville`	`:)`
`12:21.27`	`Elive_user`	`En plus c'est liégeois :)`
`12:21.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, tu et de ou Elive_user ?`
`12:21.45`	`Elive_user`	`Saint laurent`
`12:21.47`	`Elive_user`	`et toi ?`
`12:21.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`liege centre`
`12:22.06`	`roxville`	`felix, i'm trying to figure out how to make evidence look a little more "traditional"`
`12:22.08`	`Elive_user`	`Terrible, je vais refiler ce live cd autour de moi`
`12:22.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`je ne conait pas trop bien la geographie de belgique.. c'est par ou saint laurent ?`
`12:22.26`	`Elive_user`	`saint laurent à liege`
`12:22.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`parfait Elive_user ;)`
`12:22.32`	`roxville`	`you have any ideas?`
`12:22.32`	`Elive_user`	`au dessus de saint gilles`
`12:22.37`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`12:22.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ah oui, je vois un peut`
`12:22.44`	`felix`	`roxville: evidence is the E17 file manager, isnt't it?`
`12:23.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user par hazard tu conait un centre "asbl" de linux de liege ? un groupe de linux-users qoi`
`12:23.13`	`Elive_user`	`Merci encore pour cette démo, je m'amuse comme un petit fou.`
`12:23.17`	`Elive_user`	`Il ya Lilith`
`12:23.20`	`azzazus`	`i changed the theme in this file /usr/share/entrance/build_config.sh,but,the them is still of the new version`
`12:23.20`	`elive-bot`	`azzazus: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work`
`12:23.25`	`Elive_user`	`je vais voir pour l'url`
`12:23.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`12:23.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`lilith ? je ne conait pas`
`12:23.48`	`roxville`	`no felix...well, it's in both actually. this is elive. anything is possible`
`12:24.04`	`roxville`	`you can set it with examine, i think...`
`12:24.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`je avait passée quelque jours sur un, mais il i avait pas trop de mouvement qoi`
`12:24.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`comment tu savait que je etait de liege Elive_user ?`
`12:24.39`	`Elive_user`	`Je l'ai lu sur distrowatch je crois`
`12:24.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`hum`
`12:27.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`oui, il dit "belgium"`
`12:27.07`	`Elive_user`	`Je ne trouve pas l'adresse de la locale à Liège`
`12:27.08`	`Elive_user`	`A l'occasion je te l'envoi si ca t'interesse`
`12:27.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`non c'est pas grave, c'etait tout juste pour voire si tu le conaisait..`
`12:28.55`	`Elive_user`	`J'y suis allé une fois, je ne suis pas programmeur, et je ne passe pas tellement de temps sur linux non plus`
`12:28.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user tu conait plus ou moins le prix des amd64 machines ici a liege ?`
`12:29.03`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`12:29.07`	`haque`	`Elive cannot mount PCMCIA external CDROM and find morphix image`
`12:29.35`	`Elive_user`	`Tu demande le prix du processeur ou d'une machine complète ?`
`12:29.45`	`Thanatermesis`	`this not are easy haque ... :/`
`12:29.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`une machine complete Elive_user , pour me faire une idée`
`12:29.58`	`haque`	`:(`
`12:30.21`	`haque`	`I love enlightenment`
`12:30.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed conoces algo sobre "pcmcia cdrom" support ?`
`12:30.33`	`haque`	`but cant use elive`
`12:30.49`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, lo he dicho antes a el .. no creo que hay los modules`
`12:30.57`	`haque`	`for my PCMCIA CDROM with Sony VAIO laptop`
`12:31.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`haque you can posible extract the hard drive to another machine and install`
`12:31.26`	`Elive_user`	`Va voir ici, ils sont réputés comme étant les moins chèrs : http://www.shscomputer.be/`
`12:31.27`	`nomed`	`haque, if you can figure out you modules i'll patch the linuxrc`
`12:31.40`	`nomed`	`s/you/sour`
`12:31.44`	`nomed`	`well ..`
`12:32.08`	`haque`	`I'm very much new to Linux`
`12:32.12`	`haque`	`as well`
`12:32.15`	`Elive_user`	`j'en vois un a euros tvac`
`12:32.23`	`Elive_user`	`690`
`12:32.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`merci Elive_user , je vais regarder... sinon le moins cher que je conaisait c'etait un japonais a cotée du pot au lait ;)`
`12:32.48`	`nomed`	`haque, i feel like ubuntu-live colony4 can detect your pcmci cdrom`
`12:33.00`	`nomed`	`it uses casper ... like the installer ..`
`12:33.01`	`haque`	`r u sure`
`12:33.15`	`haque`	`then i'm gonna try it`
`12:33.20`	`nomed`	`if you haven't an installed linux sys on that machine`
`12:33.35`	`nomed`	`you can try that and tell us the module you need`
`12:33.52`	`nomed`	`we'll patch that file`
`12:34.21`	`Elive_user`	`Je vois pas ! Le pot au lait si mais le japonais non. J'y vais, encore bravo pour Elive`
`12:34.28`	`nomed`	`if you don't know those modules it's impossible to know why it can't find your cdrom`
`12:34.31`	`haque`	`i have mandriva 10.1`
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`12:34.36`	`nomed`	`ok`
`12:34.40`	`nomed`	`lsmod`
`12:35.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`tout seule 500 € recuperer TVAc... c'est qoi ça Elive_user ? pour les magazins ?`
`12:35.16`	`Elive_user`	`je comprends pas ta question`
`12:35.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, merci Elive_user`
`12:35.25`	`nomed`	`and you don't need ubuntu live so`
`12:35.48`	`Elive_user`	`Je susi toujours là`
`12:35.52`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://www.shscomputer.be/print/desktop.php?machine=5 <--- Elive_user`
`12:36.08`	`Elive_user`	`la tour seule, c'est 500euros (pas d'écran, de clavier ni de souris je suppose)`
`12:36.21`	`Thanatermesis`	`500 euros... sans windows :) Elive_user ?`
`12:36.24`	`Elive_user`	`En Belgique, tu dois payer une taxe récupel`
`12:36.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahh`
`12:36.29`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`12:36.33`	`Elive_user`	`je sais pas`
`12:36.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`Elive_user oui, les taxes les taxes les taxes...`
`12:36.48`	`haque`	`ok i'll try that lsmod`
`12:37.10`	`Elive_user`	`Eh oui ! UNe taxe pour récupérer ton matériel quand tu vas le jetter`
`12:37.20`	`Elive_user`	`Une taxe écologique :)`
`12:37.28`	`Elive_user`	`Tu n'es pas belge ?`
`12:37.37`	`roxville`	`i have the same prob, no cdrom detected, no firewirw drive`
`12:37.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`12:37.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`c'est fou quand meme`
`12:37.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`je suis de barcelone Elive_user , mais je suis a liege depuis 2 ans`
`12:38.29`	`Elive_user`	`j'espère qu'on se croisera un jour, de toute façon, je me reconnecterai bientot`
`12:38.31`	`Elive_user`	`salut`
`12:38.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville haque , this needs a special configurations in the init scripts from the livecd... not easy, needs work, hehe`
`12:38.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok, salut Elive_user`
`12:39.31`	`haque`	`:(`
`12:40.10`	`roxville`	`ok, yes it is sad haque`
`12:40.21`	`roxville`	`but thana can fix it`
`12:40.39`	`roxville`	`and he needs to fix it, because a lot of ppl have the same probs`
`12:41.06`	`nomed`	`roxville, is you cdrom firewire?`
`12:41.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
`12:41.40`	`roxville`	`no nomed, but elive can neither see my cdrom OR my FW drive`
`12:43.38`	`nomed`	`for firewire ohci1394 ieee1394 sbp2`
`12:44.10`	`roxville`	`apt x en es Thanatermesis , i do not know how much work it would take, but .... and here we go again ... ubuntu's hardware detection is really good`
`12:44.27`	`roxville`	`apt x en es maybe you can borrow it?`
`12:44.47`	`nomed`	`ubuntu uses casper`
`12:44.52`	`nomed`	`really slow`
`12:45.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`haque roxville does computer support boot from this cdrom ?`
`12:45.13`	`roxville`	`yes`
`12:45.14`	`haque`	`yup`
`12:45.43`	`roxville`	`i tried to load a scumm game, that's how i found out`
`12:45.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`roxville but exist a big problem, this changes needs a lot of time.. AND needs a similar hardware, I don't have this hardware... any person send me a vaio ? :)`
`12:45.50`	`nomed`	`if rookmoot haque can just find their modules it not that difficult to fix`
`12:46.19`	`roxville`	`lol@send me a vaio`
`12:46.46`	`haque`	`lol`
`12:47.16`	`roxville`	`ok, nomed, it actually sees my FW drive, but can't mount it says: "no medium found"`
`12:48.18`	`nomed`	`dev/sd?`
`12:48.36`	`nomed`	`roxville, try this`
`12:48.49`	`nomed`	`rmmod ohci1394 sbp2 iee1394`
`12:48.56`	`nomed`	`ieee1394`
`12:49.04`	`nomed`	`than from a shell`
`12:49.14`	`nomed`	`tail -f /var/log/messages`
`12:49.34`	`nomed`	`from one other modprobe ieee1394 ohci1394 sbp2`
`12:49.49`	`nomed`	`and check the device it's using`
`12:50.44`	`roxville`	`Module ieee1394 in use by eth1394`
`12:51.00`	`nomed`	`do you need it?`
`12:51.22`	`roxville`	`i set it to NOT use it for eth`
`12:51.24`	`nomed`	`have you some net* stuff plugged in the firewire port?`
`12:51.37`	`roxville`	`nope, just the drive`
`12:51.48`	`nomed`	`rmmod eth1394`
`12:53.40`	`roxville`	`ohci1394 does not exist in /proc/modules`
`12:53.52`	`nomed`	`ok`
`12:54.13`	`nomed`	`now open a shell and tail -f /var/log/messages`
`12:54.43`	`nomed`	`then modprobe ieee1394 ohci1394 sbp2`
`12:55.19`	`rookmoot`	`nomed, what ?`
`12:56.23`	`nomed`	`rookmoot, sorry ... tab problem :/`
`12:56.53`	`rookmoot`	`oki`
`12:56.56`	`rookmoot`	`np`
`12:57.54`	`roxville`	`ok, modprobe didn't turn up anything`
`12:58.18`	`roxville`	`i mean, it didn't show any errors`
`12:58.24`	`nomed`	`umm ...`
`12:58.36`	`nomed`	`roxville, sony vaio?`
`12:58.48`	`roxville`	`no`
`12:58.59`	`roxville`	`unfortunately`
`12:58.59`	`nomed`	`roxville, ok no errors ..`
`12:59.09`	`nomed`	`but in tail shell`
`13:00.30`	`roxville`	`ohci1394 and ieee1394 does not exist in /proc/modules`
`13:01.08`	`nomed`	`o0`
`13:01.26`	`nomed`	`modprobe -v ieee1394 ?`
`13:03.09`	`nomed`	`modprobe -v ohci1394 ?`
`13:03.11`	`roxville`	`ok, nothing`
`13:03.34`	`roxville`	`no reaction, just took my modp[robe and disappeared`
`13:04.49`	`nomed`	`i try it from elive`
`13:05.42`	`roxville`	`ok, even if casper is slow...it always see the FW drive...`
`13:05.53`	`roxville`	`i even edited fstab a little`
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`13:06.15`	`roxville`	`the prob is, it sees the drive, and then it doesn't`
`13:08.31`	`roxville`	`it is in my fstab, as vfat, recognized and all`
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`13:09.54`	`roxville`	`HandyAndE, how about a little engage-tweaking post in the elive tuning section?`
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`13:14.41`	`roxville`	`apt x en es hi newcomers, it's a little quiet right now, i suspect Thanatermesis is working hard on something`
`13:15.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
`13:15.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`I have finished the shower and wait my gf, I need to go with she, if not, Im died`
`13:15.53`	`roxville`	`i hear you brother!`
`13:16.09`	`roxville`	`go, we do NOT want you dead!`
`13:16.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I have finished the shower and wait my gf, I need to go with she, if not, Im died`
`13:16.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`hahaha`
`13:16.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es I have finished the shower and wait my gf, I need to go with she, if not, Im died`
`13:16.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`any person know the +/- price of one amd64 portable computer?`
`13:17.12`	`roxville`	`in euro? no`
`13:17.27`	`roxville`	`around USD 700`
`13:17.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`Im don't look portable amd64 machines in this catalog`
`13:17.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`usd = $ ?`
`13:17.41`	`roxville`	`yes`
`13:17.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, not very high...`
`13:17.51`	`roxville`	`U$D`
`13:18.01`	`roxville`	`maybe i am wrong`
`13:18.15`	`roxville`	`that is for the HP ones`
`13:18.21`	`roxville`	`they are pretty good`
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`13:19.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`hp ? :/`
`13:19.28`	`roxville`	`yes, Hewlett Packard`
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`13:20.40`	`roxville`	`Thanatermesis, you had to go with girl friend, remember?`
`13:21.00`	`roxville`	`:)`
`13:21.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe, yes, but Im waiting she`
`13:21.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x en es she`
`13:21.56`	`roxville`	`apt x en es get married! you will be gone a month, and then you can spend the rest of you life at the computer`
`13:21.58`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, screen resolution problem :/`
`13:21.58`	`elive-bot`	`nomed: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`13:22.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed yes... very resolution problems :(`
`13:22.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol roxville`
`13:22.42`	`nomed`	`her not she ;)`
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`13:25.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`nomed you have problems with resolution in Elive ?`
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`13:26.56`	`roxville`	`nomed i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and it has worked beautifully after that`
`13:27.25`	`Thanatermesis`	`<-- nomed se ha marchado (Remote closed the connection)`
`13:27.25`	`roxville`	`and i took out the res comments in the grub menu.lst`
`13:27.54`	`roxville`	`damn...`
`13:27.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`hehe`
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`13:28.48`	`Elive_user`	`Thanatermesis, it's an nvidia driver problem`
`13:28.56`	`Elive_user`	`it works now with nv`
`13:29.10`	`roxville`	`thana, would i be able to install casper? and it would see and mount my FW drive?`
`13:29.36`	`nomed`	`rookmoot, not`
`13:29.51`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh`
`13:29.53`	`Thanatermesis`	`strange`
`13:30.06`	`roxville`	`nomed, i did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and it has worked beautifully after that`
`13:30.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`same problem with another person in "radeon" driver`
`13:30.11`	`roxville`	`and i took out the res comments in the grub menu.lst`
`13:30.14`	`nomed`	`roxville, sorry`
`13:30.48`	`nomed`	`roxville, were you using nvidia or nv driver ?`
`13:30.52`	`roxville`	`np dude!`
`13:30.56`	`roxville`	`nvidia`
`13:30.56`	`elive-bot`	`roxville: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html Drivers de nvidia para *nix , traen un instalador muy lindo! ;-)`
`13:31.10`	`nomed`	`Thanatermesis, it would be a good idea to see how game-knoppix manage this`
`13:31.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`game-knoppix ? what are this ?`
`13:31.57`	`nomed`	`it the best live cd for accelerated hw`
`13:32.01`	`nomed`	`it's`
`13:32.41`	`nomed`	`that's in my TODO list`
`13:34.03`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, viste lo de debian-es?`
`13:34.23`	`roxville`	`i have to go spend time with my wife. otherwise i will be dead too`
`13:34.42`	`roxville`	`and then thana would not have anybody to pester him about ubuntu`
`13:34.44`	`roxville`	`:)`
`13:34.47`	`nomed`	`roxville, i have the same roblem`
`13:34.55`	`nomed`	`i'll try to fix it`
`13:35.07`	`roxville`	`see you later!`
`13:35.17`	`roxville`	`ok nomed, i trust you!`
`13:35.29`	`roxville`	`roxville@hotmail.com`
`13:35.39`	`roxville`	`pls don't spam me!`
`13:36.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`no damosu , que paso ?`
`13:36.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, I need to go`
`13:36.17`	`damosu`	`mira a partir de las 14:25`
`13:36.25`	`damosu`	`Jox`
`13:36.32`	`damosu`	`y egrub`
`13:36.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`luego lo miro xD`
`13:36.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo que ir`
`13:36.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`~brb`
`13:36.43`	`apt`	`thanatermesis: brb, too. Be Right Back`
`13:36.48`	`damosu`	`chao`
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`13:45.14`	`battlecat`	`hi, can the elive cd be installed instead of a live cd ?`
`13:46.58`	`nomed`	`morphixinstaller from cmd line`
`13:48.06`	`battlecat`	`is there a webpage for that?`
`13:48.55`	`nomed`	`it's well explained when you run it`
`13:49.02`	`battlecat`	`Also when I boot to the live CD version there are certain programs that do not work (ie inkscape)`
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`13:49.55`	`battlecat`	`Is everything supposed to work on the live CD?`
`13:50.30`	`nomed`	`inkscape doesn't work for me also`
`13:51.00`	`battlecat`	`ok. I was wondering if I installed it to the HD if it might work`
`13:52.57`	`nomed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:53.38`	`battlecat`	`I know that I can do that nomed. Thanks though! :) The problem is that the system is not online at all.`
`13:55.11`	`nomed`	`battlecat, it seems inkscape is not on livecd so it will not be on your hd ..`
`13:56.40`	`nomed`	`anyway it's supposed to work in the same way it works from cd ... :)`
`13:56.51`	`battlecat`	`I see.`
`13:57.03`	`battlecat`	`I have inkscape on a cd already so I will install that.`
`13:57.23`	`battlecat`	`I hate to ask but can eLive use RPM`
`13:58.16`	`nomed`	`umm .. you can convet them using alien`
`13:58.23`	`battlecat`	`I see`
`13:58.30`	`battlecat`	`a pain in other words :)`
`13:58.37`	`battlecat`	`I can just install from source right?`
`13:59.06`	`nomed`	`ummm .. what do you mean?`
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`13:59.31`	`battlecat`	`from a tarball`
`13:59.35`	`nomed`	`if you can't use apt?`
`13:59.39`	`battlecat`	`you know the old fashioned way`
`13:59.42`	`battlecat`	`I cannot`
`13:59.49`	`battlecat`	`The machine is not on a network`
`13:59.55`	`battlecat`	`its totally offline`
`13:59.57`	`battlecat`	`for now`
`14:00.42`	`nomed`	`you can use the live cd from a machine with internet connection`
`14:00.53`	`nomed`	`apt-get all the debs you need`
`14:01.02`	`nomed`	`save them somewhere`
`14:01.24`	`nomed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:01.45`	`nomed`	`to compile tarball you'll need so solve dependencies`
`14:02.23`	`nomed`	`s/so/to`
`14:07.07`	`Elive_user`	`thanks for distro Elive`
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`14:08.10`	`Elive_user`	`Any people from Spain`
`14:08.20`	`bit0`	`Elive_user, sure!`
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`14:13.34`	`gorthaug`	`hi`
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`14:22.02`	`gorthaug`	`how ca I install elivecd on my hd?`
`14:22.07`	`gorthaug`	`*can`
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`14:22.36`	`CGA_busy`	`gorthaug, there is a script`
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`14:28.28`	`gorthaug`	`which is the script to install elive??`
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`14:28.52`	`sinplomo`	`gorthaug, run que Elive Control Panel :)`
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`14:28.56`	`gorthaug`	`ok`
`14:28.58`	`gorthaug`	`thanks`
`14:29.07`	`CGA_busy`	`gorthaug, just clik one last icon on the right of iBar and you 'll find what you need`
`14:29.07`	`CGA_busy`	`sinplomo, thx i didn't remember the name of it`
`14:29.07`	`gorthaug`	`thanks CGA_busy`
`14:29.08`	`CGA_busy`	`np`
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`14:42.34`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`oye Thanaway`
`14:42.36`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`weno nada`
`14:43.08`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ostias, como mola la nueva web de elive`
`14:43.08`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, necesitamos tu amd joder`
`14:43.10`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`14:43.56`	`Elive_user`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:44.05`	`Elive_user`	`pensaba que no habia ni el tato`
`14:44.51`	`Elive_user`	`# nick`
`14:45.49`	`Elive_user`	`como cojo... cambio el nick, llebo tiempo sin usar este X-Chat`
`14:46.59`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, esta noche lo dejo puesto ok?`
`14:47.07`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`y si quereis voy aciendo algun trabajillo`
`14:47.12`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, molas :))))))))`
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`14:47.51`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`me toy bajando la eliver de x86`
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`14:47.57`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`a ver q tal xD`
`14:47.59`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, aplicar unos 50 parches a un kernel ...`
`14:48.00`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`14:48.03`	`sinplomo`	`no es mucho`
`14:48.05`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`jajaja`
`14:48.12`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`y pa q tngo aplicar 50 parches al puto kernel? xD`
`14:48.23`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, pero no instalartelo`
`14:48.29`	`sinplomo`	`tienes que hacer con el un deb`
`14:48.37`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, para el liveCD para AMD64 :)`
`14:48.44`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`evidentemente yo no instalo nada de thana, q no me fio xDDDD`
`14:48.58`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`pero sinplomo, no termino de comprender xk necesita tantos parches el kernel`
`14:48.59`	`sinplomo`	`no`
`14:49.03`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xk no sirve el basico?`
`14:49.12`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, para funcionar en modo live ?`
`14:49.13`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`14:49.14`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`y tu q pintas aki?, el jefe no es Thanaway ? xD`
`14:49.17`	`sinplomo`	`piro a comer`
`14:49.19`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`jajaja`
`14:49.25`	`sinplomo`	`soy su mano derecha`
`14:49.26`	`sinplomo`	`xDDD`
`14:49.30`	`sinplomo`	`XDDDDDDDDDD`
`14:49.31`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, no hay ningun kernel parcheado ya por ahi? xD q pereza`
`14:49.33`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`juaz`
`14:49.45`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`pos yo soy la mano IZQUIERDA`
`14:49.46`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xD`
`14:50.15`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, ya has sustituido tu debian por elive 3.0? xD`
`14:50.22`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`0.3 i mean xD`
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`14:55.17`	`gorthaug`	`esto... aqui se habla en español y yo chapurreando antes ingles?`
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`14:57.28`	`ferretix`	`hello`
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`15:04.01`	`ferretix`	`cdrecord -vv foo.iso -tao dev=/dev/cdrom will that burn a bootable cd from iso image?`
`15:06.15`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo,`
`15:06.26`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`tu no dices q el Stallman es un taliban?`
`15:06.27`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`http://www.fsfeurope.org/documents/whyfs.es.html`
`15:06.36`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ahi tienes porque yo defiendo a stallman por encima de todos`
`15:07.24`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`no como el ESR, q fue el promotor primero de la OSI, y resulta q es una anarcocapitalista anticomunista`
`15:08.45`	`gorthaug`	`ferretix: cdredor image.iso burn the iso image`
`15:11.40`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, todavia no me instalado debin`
`15:11.46`	`sinplomo`	`digooo elive`
`15:12.10`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, cuando digo taliban no lo uso en sentido peyorativo`
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`15:12.15`	`sinplomo`	`es una gran persona`
`15:12.18`	`sinplomo`	`nadie lo puede negar`
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`15:16.13`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, que haces !`
`15:17.10`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xDDDD`
`15:17.18`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`andaba mirando como entrar en Sindominio`
`15:17.35`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`a ver si asi obtengo hosting pa mi organizacion y colaboro con ellos`
`15:17.47`	`sinplomo`	`organizacion ?`
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`15:17.48`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`15:18.07`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`si, Estudiantes Progresistas`
`15:18.49`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`hemos acabado sustituyendo a los troskos del sindicato de estudiantes aki en huelva xk somos los q mas nos movemos`
`15:19.08`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`y aora lo mismo tb empezamos en granada y con algo de suerte en sevilla, quien sabe`
`15:19.45`	`sinplomo`	`Estudiantes Progresistas <= ozu !`
`15:19.45`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`15:21.49`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`q psa? xD`
`15:23.33`	`sinplomo`	`que es eso`
`15:23.33`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`15:24.34`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, pasame el source del sdljump`
`15:27.39`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, esperate unos dias`
`15:27.42`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`q este terminado xD`
`15:28.04`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ya guarda y carga los datos de un archivo de configuracion y tiene un menu`
`15:28.40`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ahora estoy cambiando la logica del programa para q no tenga, forzosamente, q ir a 40fps (es una limitacion del xjump)`
`15:29.12`	`sinplomo`	`dio`
`15:29.13`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`15:29.29`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`de todas formas se podra activar uno u otro metodo, y en la lista de records aparecera si estabas usando el modo original o el actual`
`15:30.24`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`puesto q pueden existir pequeñas diferencias en el calculo de la curva de la velocidad de caida debido a un mayor numero de tomas instantaneas`
`15:30.44`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`es una larga istoria, pero es algo sobre lo q he leido y q he comprobado en luciferino`
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`15:31.34`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`a niveles muy altos de fps (1000, por ejemplo) se puede llegar a saltar unos 4 o 5 pixeles mas alto q si vas a 40 o 50 fps`
`15:31.47`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`lo cual es una ventaja en sdljump xD`
`15:32.14`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`de hecho, esto ya pasaba en el quake y por eso se limito el framerate a 60 en doom 3`
`15:32.45`	`ferretix`	`on boot up when loading hw_random I get a message saying hw_random could not be loaded because of an Input/Output Error`
`15:33.07`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`como sdljump pretende ser un juego de culto de elevada competitividad, seria injusto q las posibles ventajas en los records no esten claramente identificadas verdad sinplomo ? xD`
`15:33.25`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, xDD`
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`15:35.17`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, sabes como tener el quake en modo ventana ?`
`15:35.48`	`Gila`	`anyone can tell me how i start the grub config from the elive ce?`
`15:37.38`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`sinplomo, no viene algo sobre eso en las opciones? xD`
`15:37.48`	`sinplomo`	`no`
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`15:39.11`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`seguro sinplomo ?`
`15:39.22`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`yo recuerdo q venia pa activar y desactivar el fullscreen xD`
`15:40.25`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, ya lo encontre`
`15:40.26`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`15:40.28`	`sinplomo`	`gracias`
`15:41.03`	`sinplomo`	`voy a jugar el cs16 y quake 3 al mimo tempo en do entana diferentew`
`15:41.38`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xDDDD`
`15:41.43`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`tu si q ere un corgao sinplomo xD`
`15:44.51`	`azzazus`	`how do i change my entrance theme to "darkrock"`
`15:44.52`	`elive-bot`	`azzazus: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work`
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`16:13.27`	`alquemont`	`wenas`
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`16:36.16`	`Thanaway`	`plop!`
`16:36.38`	`alquemont`	`hola Thanatermesis`
`16:36.45`	`alquemont`	`tengo un problemilla`
`16:36.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu que paso ? tengo el log parseado por la mitad y no encuentro las 14 h lol`
`16:36.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`que sucede alquemont ?`
`16:37.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu`
`16:37.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 06 01:42:03 <sinplomo> conecta la webcm y haz lsusb`
`16:37.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`**** INICIANDO CONEXIÃ~SN EN Tue Sep 6 19:47:48 2005`
`16:37.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 06 19:47:48 --> EstÃ¡ hablando ahora a #debian-es`
`16:37.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`16:37.09`	`alquemont`	`pues que entangle no me chuta`
`16:37.10`	`alquemont`	`:(`
`16:37.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`porque no te va ? a mi me va perfecto`
`16:37.30`	`alquemont`	`he intentado añadirle una app`
`16:37.42`	`alquemont`	`y me ha borrado los favoritos`
`16:37.49`	`alquemont`	`la columna de favoritos`
`16:37.59`	`alquemont`	`ahora no me sale en el menu contextual`
`16:38.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`pues upgradea la conf de tu ".e" ;)`
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`16:39.02`	`alquemont`	`no se como hacerlo Thanatermesis`
`16:39.18`	`cut0ff`	`buenas`
`16:39.30`	`cut0ff`	`como puedo instalar elive en el HD??`
`16:39.38`	`cut0ff`	`no encuentro ningun script`
`16:40.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`alquemont lee el "tunning" o el "faq", esta alli explicado`
`16:40.36`	`alquemont`	`oki Thanatermesis solo dime donde esta`
`16:40.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`cut0ff prueba el ultimo icono de la barra`
`16:40.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`alquemont www.elivecd.org`
`16:41.15`	`cut0ff`	`ok gracias`
`16:42.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`cut0ff no eres la primera persona que lo pregunta... tan dificil es de encontrarlo ?`
`16:42.33`	`alquemont`	`gracias Thanatermesis`
`16:42.44`	`cut0ff`	`sorry es que hoy estoy muy espeso`
`16:43.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 eutils compile maintenant, mais elitaire et retina no`
`16:43.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`jejeje, ok cut0ff`
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`16:44.36`	`cut0ff`	`por cierto este LiveCD es sino el mejor uno de los mejores`
`16:44.42`	`cut0ff`	`Enhorabuena!`
`16:44.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias cut0ff :)`
`16:45.14`	`cut0ff`	`una duda`
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`16:45.22`	`cut0ff`	`para cuando una mailinglist?`
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`16:47.09`	`Thanatermesis`	`cut0ff eso es un prolbema, lo primero que se deberia hacer es un foro, esta claro, pero se necesita tiempo y gente que se ocupe de el... cosa que no hay nadie dispuesto por el momento a hacerlo`
`16:48.37`	`cut0ff`	`entiendo`
`16:49.02`	`cut0ff`	`de todas formas si alguna vez montais foro yo me apunto para lo que haga falta`
`16:50.08`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, mentiroso xD`
`16:50.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`si bueno, hay que administrarlo, montarlo en alguna parte, que alguien se ocupe...`
`16:50.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo o_O ?`
`16:51.19`	`alquemont`	`Thanatermesis, si quieres puedo proponerlo en una web , que hagan un sub-foro`
`16:51.36`	`cut0ff`	`en Debianitas hay un subforo dedicado creo`
`16:51.45`	`alquemont`	`se administraria , estaria en alguna parte y nos ocupariamos :)`
`16:52.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, en debianitas hay un foro`
`16:52.38`	`cut0ff`	`alquemont oye tu nombre me suena bastante, puede ser de Ubuntu??`
`16:52.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`pero basicamente es solamente en castellano y no hay mucho movimiento...`
`16:52.52`	`alquemont`	`nop cut0ff , de ubuntu seguro que no`
`16:52.53`	`alquemont`	`:)`
`16:52.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`jeje`
`16:53.00`	`alquemont`	`de gnuinos, de fent . . .`
`16:53.02`	`cut0ff`	`alquemont pero me suenas`
`16:53.15`	`alquemont`	`de fentlinux`
`16:53.16`	`alquemont`	`:)`
`16:53.19`	`cut0ff`	`aja!`
`16:53.21`	`cut0ff`	`cierto`
`16:53.32`	`sinplomo`	`que es eso de fentlinux ?`
`16:53.45`	`cut0ff`	`busca en google xD`
`16:53.48`	`cut0ff`	`:)`
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`16:54.33`	`alquemont`	`una web`
`16:54.40`	`alquemont`	`con foros sobre linux`
`16:54.55`	`alquemont`	`seguro que alli se podria hacer`
`16:55.02`	`alquemont`	`en gnuinos tb`
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`16:55.42`	`stargater`	`hi all :)`
`16:56.06`	`cut0ff`	`hi stargater`
`16:56.29`	`kr1stof`	`hi stargater`
`16:56.36`	`stargater`	`jop`
`16:57.03`	`alquemont`	`hola`
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`16:57.09`	`St-`	`hi`
`16:57.14`	`stargater`	`hi St-`
`16:57.37`	`cut0ff`	`see ya guys`
`16:59.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`veamos`
`16:59.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`#`
`16:59.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 07 14:25:53 egrub No el privativo`
`16:59.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`#`
`16:59.48`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 07 14:26:04 Jox si eso me da iwal xD`
`16:59.53`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, is here ?`
`16:59.55`	`St-`	`hi Thanatermesis ;)`
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`17:00.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`yup St-`
`17:00.40`	`St-`	`elive-skel_0.4-7elive3_i386.deb this don't work ;\ oo2 don't run`
`17:00.46`	`St-`	`;) why ?`
`17:00.47`	`alquemont`	`re`
`17:00.52`	`St-`	`oo2 and all bugs..`
`17:01.06`	`stargater`	`i have a problem with elive cd , i miss wlan (ndis wraper) and my mouse are very low (sony z1 laptop)`
`17:01.31`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, que te parece`
`17:01.45`	`sinplomo`	`Rasko\|nikov, aparece !`
`17:02.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu parece un flamer, no?`
`17:02.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`aun estoy leyendo`
`17:02.25`	`damosu`	`el tio ese?`
`17:02.27`	`damosu`	`que va`
`17:02.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- you have upgraded the package ?`
`17:02.39`	`damosu`	`si estaba hablando mal de microsoft y todo`
`17:02.52`	`St-`	`yes, i run dpkg -i your.deb`
`17:03.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`si, eso estaba viendo ahora, pero como entro en el canal insistiendo sobre ms...`
`17:03.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- sure, your package are upgraded, but not the configurations for "x" user ;)`
`17:03.35`	`damosu`	`bueno lees y me dices`
`17:03.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- read the FAQ and the "tunning"`
`17:03.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`ok`
`17:03.57`	`Thanatermesis`	`stargater slow mouse ?`
`17:04.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`ndiswrapper.. you have the driver, you need the utils, and the driver of XP, you need to configure it manually stargater`
`17:05.21`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xD`
`17:05.24`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`dime sinplomo`
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`17:05.46`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, dile como compilarse le kernel y eso`
`17:05.47`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`17:05.56`	`stargater`	`ok thx for ndis info,`
`17:05.59`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`joe, se compilar un kernel eh!`
`17:06.00`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`xD`
`17:06.24`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 07 14:36:22 Jox egrub: vuelve a leer hasta q tu cabezon loa asimila y puedas identificar que son criticas hacia mcirosoft xD, no afavorece nada memo`
`17:06.24`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`aunq x aki es un coñazo y aora no tengo tiempo, asi q mejor ablamos x mail y me dices q kieres de mi exactamente`
`17:06.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 07 14:36:49 * egrub has kicked Jox from #debian-es (egrub)`
`17:06.34`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`magnicida<at>gmail<dot>com`
`17:06.35`	`Rasko\|nikov`	`ok?`
`17:06.49`	`Thanatermesis`	`de todas formas damosu ... yo no se porque pero siempre se acaba hablando de MS`
`17:06.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`17:06.56`	`St-`	`Thanatermesis, how i can configure the pack ?`
`17:06.59`	`damosu`	`bueno y que`
`17:07.03`	`damosu`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:07.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- you have readed the tunning and FAQ ?`
`17:07.13`	`damosu`	`nosotros tmb hablamos xD`
`17:07.21`	`St-`	`yess...`
`17:07.34`	`damosu`	`de echo estamos haciendolo :P`
`17:07.35`	`stargater`	`yes my mouse is slow , and the touchpad is not 100% ok in, examble, i can only push the left and right buttons , and not dobble push of the tochpad`
`17:07.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`St- in the "upgrade" section ;)`
`17:07.48`	`cocozz`	`Thanatermesis sabes si es posible que la ibox solo te muestre los programas minimizados de un solo escritorio ?`
`17:08.38`	`Thanatermesis`	`stargater speak with sinplomo , thei are the specialist of the X configurations ;)`
`17:09.15`	`St-`	`re updatable with "elive-skel upgrade" , ok tnx ;)`
`17:09.15`	`Thanatermesis`	`cocozz hay un problema con los iconos... pero estoy terminando de arreglar ese problema ;)`
`17:09.34`	`Thanatermesis`	`yes St- ;)`
`17:09.40`	`St-`	`;)`
`17:10.22`	`sinplomo`	`egrub has kicked Jox from #debian-es (egrub) <= egrub con superpoderes ? WOW`
`17:10.23`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`17:10.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu parece que le buscaba las cosquillas a egrub, no?`
`17:10.54`	`Thanatermesis`	`sep 07 14:39:02 Jox (K)`
`17:11.00`	`Thanatermesis`	`y eso es tipico de un windosero xD`
`17:11.14`	`damosu`	`pos la verdad se puso chulo de narices`
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`17:21.46`	`* topic/#elive is Is the world prepared for Elive? \|\| Open your mind with the elive-essence: "xmms http://64.236.34.97:80/stream/8022" \|\| "deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive" <-- new repository \|\| www.elivecd.org * NEW DOMAIN ! *** \|\| your installed Elive are slow? www.elivecd.org/tunning.html \|\| if you have a problem with entrance, contact Thanatermesis \|\| evidence crash ? upgrade this`
`17:25.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno... vamos a probar esos iconos.. :)`
`17:25.32`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, bueno`
`17:25.39`	`sinplomo`	`que teiba a decir`
`17:25.40`	`sinplomo`	`.`
`17:25.41`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`17:25.44`	`sinplomo`	`se me olvido`
`17:25.44`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`17:36.44`	`RaisedFist`	`hmmm .. back`
`17:36.49`	`RaisedFist`	`not working :)`
`17:37.11`	`Thanatermesis`	`RaisedFist read the "chatcodes" from the CD`
`17:37.35`	`Thanatermesis`	`RaisedFist its posible to your problem are the driver of pcmcia (one of hte pcmcia drivers are broken in this kernel)`
`17:37.45`	`RaisedFist`	`Thanatermesis, I read 'em .. I put noalsa noaudio and it's not working ... maybe because I have an AMD64?`
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`17:38.00`	`RaisedFist`	`I don't need pcmcia`
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`17:38.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`oh, posible... I have "hear" one person to not posible launch in a amd64 machine..`
`17:38.45`	`RaisedFist`	`ok .. I'll wait for the next version :)`
`17:38.52`	`RaisedFist`	`untill then, I'm using gentoo`
`17:39.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`RaisedFist some persons like to have a amd64 version of Elive.. but I don't have this machine for make this... and needs a lot of work, this is the problem`
`17:39.46`	`RaisedFist`	`I see. I don't blame you for anything. You did a great work and deserve alll merits and congratulations!`
`17:40.10`	`Thanatermesis`	`:) thanks`
`17:41.57`	`RaisedFist`	`keep up the good work!`
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`17:43.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu ping`
`17:43.40`	`damosu`	`Thanatermesis, pong`
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`17:43.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu hay un tal "hellboy" en #cinelerra`
`17:43.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`O_O`
`17:43.57`	`damosu`	`bueno`
`17:44.01`	`damosu`	`fale xD`
`17:44.28`	`damosu`	`no sabemos si es el tipo aquel`
`17:44.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`seguro que no es el, pero al ver su nombre me a impactado xD`
`17:45.29`	`damosu`	`te dio un buelco el corazon?`
`17:45.36`	`damosu`	`mediste las pulsaciones xDD`
`17:45.37`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD algo asi`
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`17:46.50`	`battlecat`	`hi how do you install eLive to the Harddrive?`
`17:47.07`	`cut0ff`	`Thanatermesis podrias decirme q es ese tal BulmaGes?`
`17:47.26`	`Thanatermesis`	`cut0ff un programa para empresas.. donde lo viste ?`
`17:47.35`	`cut0ff`	`en Bulma claro`
`17:47.47`	`cut0ff`	`pèro no dicen nada a cerca de el`
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`17:49.58`	`Elive_user`	`binaryred`
`17:50.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`jajajaja`
`17:51.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`_H_ no sabia que en bulma hubiera un post de bulmages donde se habla de elive pero no de bulmages xD`
`17:51.26`	`_H_`	`jeje`
`17:51.29`	`_H_`	`ya ves`
`17:51.32`	`cut0ff`	`pero leiste todo no??`
`17:51.36`	`cut0ff`	`si que se habla si`
`17:52.13`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 je mais la en marche le forum pour elive...`
`17:52.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`creo que es el mismo anuncio que vi yo, pero no lo recuerdo muy bien`
`17:54.00`	`pr0t0cod7`	`plop`
`17:54.04`	`pr0t0cod7`	`Thanatermesis: quel forum?`
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`17:56.14`	`_H_`	`supongo que te refieres a este thanatermesis: http://bulma.net/body.phtml?nIdNoticia=2228`
`17:56.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`si.. yo almenos me refiero a ese`
`17:56.50`	`cut0ff`	`""Y ya está, tenemos BulmaGés en un CD-Live y además en el en el espectacular Elive. ""`
`17:56.55`	`_H_`	`en portada solo se habla de bulmages en el titulo porque la noticia es elive no bulmages`
`17:57.01`	`_H_`	`pero luego dentro si se habla mucho`
`17:57.02`	`cut0ff`	`está bién claro xD`
`17:57.56`	`cut0ff`	`lo cual quiere decir q este Live es muy completo`
`17:58.05`	`cut0ff`	`os felicito por ello`
`17:58.43`	`_H_`	`la noticia supogo que se podia enfocar como "al fin bulmages en un cd-live" y normbrar por alguna parte Elive pero yo creo que asi es mas interesante para los bulmeros y publico en general`
`17:58.51`	`cut0ff`	`la inclusión de Rezound y ZynAdd también merece mención`
`17:59.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`;)`
`17:59.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya lo dice en la pagina de elive...`
`17:59.18`	`_H_`	`y de paso es algo de agradecimiento por el curro de poner bulmages en la Elive`
`17:59.19`	`cut0ff`	`de varas es muy completo este Live`
`17:59.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`"con la seleccion de los mejores programas del mundo linux " ;)`
`17:59.28`	`_H_`	`:))`
`17:59.53`	`_H_`	`thanatermesis, si te envio unos paquetes le puedes probar?`
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`18:00.12`	`_H_`	`es que ahora no puedo ni instalar el postgress`
`18:00.18`	`Thanatermesis`	`si te soy sincero _H_ no, no podria, tengo aqui un inmenso curro con todo este movimiento xD`
`18:00.25`	`_H_`	`:)`
`18:00.27`	`Thanatermesis`	`imaginate que recibo solo unos 20 o 30 mails diarios xD`
`18:00.28`	`_H_`	`ok, no problem`
`18:00.32`	`_H_`	`jejeje`
`18:00.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`y todo lo que tengo que reparar, mejorar etc...`
`18:00.36`	`_H_`	`suena bien`
`18:00.41`	`shadoi`	`pr0t0cod7: Hi, Thana says you'd like to be a moderator for the forum?`
`18:00.50`	`cut0ff`	`supongo que no estarás solo en esto xD`
`18:01.02`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso aparte de que tengo que aprender a programar C y luego hacer un panel de control entre otras cosas...`
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`18:03.40`	`pr0t0cod7`	`shadoi: i can help, but i have some work already with the Elive site, so i concentrate on that for the time being`
`18:04.56`	`shadoi`	`pr0t0cod7: Go ahead and signup, I'll give you moderator access.`
`18:05.08`	`pr0t0cod7`	`shadoi: ok`
`18:05.17`	`Thanatermesis`	`and wait the email :)`
`18:05.20`	`Thanatermesis`	`lol`
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`18:11.06`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es staving`
`18:11.17`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es stave`
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`18:14.44`	`Elive_user2`	`hello`
`18:16.28`	`quelcom`	`how can I change my screen resolution when I'm using E17?`
`18:16.29`	`elive-bot`	`quelcom: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
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`18:18.11`	`Enlighted`	`nasss`
`18:18.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`quelcom you have one menu in e17 for this ;)`
`18:18.28`	`Thanatermesis`	`nas Enlighted`
`18:20.30`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: ;)`
`18:20.44`	`Thanatermesis_`	`yup`
`18:20.54`	`Enlighted`	`me cago en el puto windows`
`18:21.06`	`Enlighted`	`es mas inestable k un plato de gelatina mal hecho en pleno agosto`
`18:21.10`	`Enlighted`	`��`
`18:21.33`	`Enlighted`	`pues no va ahora y se ha reiniciado solo?`
`18:21.34`	`Thanatermesis_`	`ahora te das cuenta? LOL`
`18:21.35`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`18:21.40`	`Enlighted`	`ya`
`18:21.47`	`Enlighted`	`pero el xp ya podria serlo mas`
`18:21.51`	`Enlighted`	`..`
`18:21.54`	`Thanatermesis_`	`Enlighted y la de cosas que quedan por descubrir... xD`
`18:22.06`	`cut0ff`	`creo que el tema del win$ no interesa mucho x aquí`
`18:22.12`	`cut0ff`	`xDD`
`18:22.23`	`Enlighted`	`cut0ff: si es para ponerlo verde, s� interesa`
`18:22.25`	`Enlighted`	`xD`
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`18:22.29`	`cut0ff`	`ni eso`
`18:22.34`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`18:22.43`	`mariodebian`	`Thana estas?`
`18:22.43`	`cut0ff`	`mejor no darles baza`
`18:22.47`	`quelcom`	`I found Elice Control Panel, but when I click on Display Settings it appears "xconf could not be executed"`
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`18:23.01`	`quelcom`	`vaya, si se puede hablar en castellano mejor ^^U`
`18:23.11`	`mariodebian`	`Thanatermesis: ping`
`18:23.42`	`cut0ff`	`quelcom en las FAQ hay info sobre esto`
`18:24.06`	`Elive_user2`	`Hello, I'm just triing Elive 0.3, it's great !`
`18:24.15`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian veo q tbn estás por aquí :)`
`18:24.16`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user2: everybody says it`
`18:24.17`	`quelcom`	`ya lo he encontrado :) ctrl + alt + {+,-}`
`18:24.22`	`Enlighted`	`that would be because its true`
`18:24.25`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`18:24.35`	`mariodebian`	`cutOff: nos conocemos?`
`18:24.51`	`Elive_user2`	`:)`
`18:24.58`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian te dejé un mensaje en tu blog xD`
`18:25.00`	`Elive_user2`	`it's very very impressive`
`18:25.12`	`cut0ff`	`Lmms recuerdas?`
`18:25.23`	`mariodebian`	`cierto!!!!`
`18:25.30`	`cut0ff`	`tbn de Esdebian`
`18:25.31`	`mariodebian`	`lo compilaste?`
`18:25.36`	`cut0ff`	`si mal no recuerdo`
`18:25.40`	`cut0ff`	`que va!!`
`18:25.45`	`mariodebian`	`en esdebian mi nick es djmir`
`18:25.51`	`cut0ff`	`si lo sé`
`18:25.56`	`Enlighted`	`jo`
`18:26.09`	`Enlighted`	`pq todos lo0s canales de TV de juegos son en aleman?`
`18:26.16`	`Enlighted`	`(x internet)`
`18:26.23`	`mariodebian`	`cuando vuelva Thana dile que ya tiene mirror del repositorio....`
`18:26.42`	`cut0ff`	`ok`
`18:26.44`	`mariodebian`	`=> deb http://idefix.eup.uva.es/elive elive main efl elive`
`18:27.01`	`cut0ff`	`personalmente te vuelvo a felicitar`
`18:27.12`	`Enlighted`	`moola`
`18:27.13`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:27.34`	`Enlighted`	`en la red de la uni y todo`
`18:27.40`	`Enlighted`	`cuando ancho tiene?`
`18:27.41`	`mariodebian`	`se actualizará todas las noches a las 4:20 hora española`
`18:27.54`	`mariodebian`	`como 10 o 20 megas`
`18:27.59`	`Enlighted`	`juasjuas`
`18:28.06`	`cut0ff`	`genial`
`18:28.37`	`Enlighted`	`pse`
`18:28.43`	`Enlighted`	`yo bajo a 3,5 megas`
`18:28.43`	`mariodebian`	`ya le pasare algun programa que he empaquetado yo....`
`18:28.51`	`Enlighted`	`asi que me merendaria un buen monton XD`
`18:28.59`	`Enlighted`	`si me pusiera a bajar de ese repo`
`18:29.02`	`Enlighted`	`=)`
`18:29.18`	`Enlighted`	`y cuando pongan adsl2+ en mi linea, ni te cuento`
`18:29.25`	`Enlighted`	`minimo 6 megas xD`
`18:29.51`	`mariodebian`	`yo de momento bajo a 219 KB`
`18:30.06`	`Enlighted`	`ta bien..`
`18:30.12`	`cut0ff`	`suficiente`
`18:30.13`	`Enlighted`	`mis picos llegan a 357`
`18:30.16`	`mariodebian`	`idefix:~# du -sh /var/www/elive/`
`18:30.17`	`mariodebian`	`225M /var/www/elive/`
`18:30.18`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`18:30.25`	`mariodebian`	`si no ocupa mucho no creo que haya problema`
`18:30.30`	`Enlighted`	`tb`
`18:30.42`	`Enlighted`	`siempre k no pongas el openoffice o kernels-source en ese repo..`
`18:30.45`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:31.11`	`mariodebian`	`el oo ocupa coo 130 megas`
`18:31.15`	`mariodebian`	`no ocupa tanto`
`18:31.30`	`Enlighted`	`para los que tienen de 2 megas para arriba, no`
`18:31.38`	`Enlighted`	`pero pa los de 1 mega para abajo..`
`18:31.39`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian una duda q tengo`
`18:31.45`	`Enlighted`	`aun hay mucha gente k sigue con 56k xD`
`18:32.00`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian los paquetes OO son validos para Ubuntu??`
`18:32.05`	`mariodebian`	`si`
`18:32.12`	`cut0ff`	`lo probaste?`
`18:32.13`	`mariodebian`	`son validos para cualquier distro`
`18:32.16`	`mariodebian`	`mas o menos nueva`
`18:32.20`	`cut0ff`	`ok asias`
`18:32.23`	`Enlighted`	`y los de ubuntu para elive?`
`18:32.29`	`mariodebian`	`no uso ubuntu pero hay gente que si los tiene en ubuntu`
`18:32.47`	`mariodebian`	`ubunto + elive o ubuntu + debian no es recomendable`
`18:32.57`	`mariodebian`	`pase por un formateo por una mezcla de esas..,,`
`18:33.11`	`cut0ff`	`si yo tbn`
`18:33.25`	`cut0ff`	`metí los de SID en Debian y ni t cuento`
`18:33.31`	`cut0ff`	`perdon`
`18:33.36`	`cut0ff`	`los de SID en Ubuntu`
`18:34.21`	`Enlighted`	`tele por TV = rollazo`
`18:34.28`	`Enlighted`	`digo, tele por internet`
`18:34.30`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias mariodebian ! :)`
`18:34.35`	`Enlighted`	`no hay ni un canal interesante :(`
`18:34.41`	`cut0ff`	`bueno ya está x aquí`
`18:34.48`	`Enlighted`	`y los k lo son son alemanes`
`18:34.53`	`Enlighted`	`puaj`
`18:35.08`	`mariodebian`	`Thanatermesis: a servir... despues de la chapa que te di para que cambiaras...`
`18:35.20`	`mariodebian`	`Thanatermesis: si quieres te digo el script para hacer el mirror`
`18:35.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`jajajaj`
`18:35.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`mmmh, estoy mirando para rsync`
`18:35.43`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: aparte de tener la "elive essence", podrias crear un canal de tv 24h`
`18:35.47`	`Enlighted`	`mostrando como curras`
`18:35.48`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
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`18:35.56`	`Thanatermesis`	`xDDD`
`18:35.57`	`Enlighted`	`y..ejem..todas tus "intimidades" XD`
`18:36.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`calla calla que esta aqui`
`18:36.08`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:36.42`	`Enlighted`	`Thanatermesis: tu novia? tb queremos verla!`
`18:36.48`	`Enlighted`	`venga, quien me apoya? XDD`
`18:36.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`no creoq ue se deje`
`18:37.01`	`Enlighted`	`oh`
`18:37.08`	`Enlighted`	`que poco exhibicionistas sois, por dios`
`18:37.12`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`18:37.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`eso es belgica xD`
`18:37.32`	`Enlighted`	`pos belgica sux`
`18:37.43`	`Enlighted`	`tanta la haya y pollas les ha comido el cerebro a los belgas`
`18:37.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`ya se a enfadad :(`
`18:37.47`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:38.04`	`Thanatermesis`	`dice que "ya empiezo con lo de las belgas" y que me busque una española`
`18:38.05`	`Thanatermesis`	`xD`
`18:38.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x es en mi novia a vuelto y me prohibe tocar el ordenador`
`18:39.04`	`Enlighted`	`xDDD`
`18:39.16`	`Thanatermesis`	`:/`
`18:39.50`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x es en escondidas`
`18:40.42`	`Thanatermesis`	`apt x es en almohada`
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`18:41.40`	`egrub`	`Thanatermesis: Te interesa esto, http://www.am-utils.org/`
`18:43.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`gracias egrub`
`18:43.36`	`Thanatermesis`	`luego me lo miro`
`18:43.37`	`egrub`	`De nada`
`18:43.39`	`Thanatermesis`	`tengo que salir ahora`
`18:43.42`	`egrub`	`Ok`
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`18:45.56`	`Elive_user`	`jjjjjimbo`
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`18:50.12`	`Elive_user`	`so this is elive, eh?`
`18:50.59`	`Enlighted`	`yes`
`18:51.01`	`Enlighted`	`:D`
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`18:51.06`	`Elive_user`	`:)`
`18:51.09`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`18:51.38`	`Elive_user`	`se ha marchado? this a spanish room?`
`18:51.47`	`Enlighted`	`multilingual`
`18:51.56`	`egrub`	`Yo hablo espa�ol`
`18:51.57`	`Enlighted`	`spanish-english-french-italian`
`18:51.57`	`egrub`	`xD`
`18:52.04`	`Enlighted`	`egrub: yo tambien!`
`18:52.05`	`Elive_user`	`nice`
`18:52.07`	`Enlighted`	`que cosas, eh? XD`
`18:52.09`	`egrub`	`Jeje`
`18:52.14`	`Elive_user`	`e17 works off modules?`
`18:52.17`	`Enlighted`	`egrub: de donde eres?`
`18:52.22`	`egrub`	`Argentina`
`18:52.25`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user: ?`
`18:52.25`	`egrub`	`Y vos?`
`18:52.35`	`Enlighted`	`oh, un argentiiiino xD`
`18:52.36`	`egrub`	`Ah Sos de Espa�a`
`18:52.38`	`Enlighted`	`soy gallego`
`18:52.41`	`Enlighted`	`usea, espa�ol`
`18:52.42`	`egrub`	`Si`
`18:52.43`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`18:52.57`	`Enlighted`	`como va la crisis por ahi? ^^`
`18:53.04`	`egrub`	`Peor`
`18:53.10`	`egrub`	`No hay empleo`
`18:53.15`	`Enlighted`	`ala`
`18:53.56`	`Elive_user`	`this is my first endevour into enlightenment. i use fluxbox on my gentoo box. any hints to make my first use of this dm more enjoyable?`
`18:54.05`	`Elive_user2`	`I'm posting some advertisment for elive on linuxfr.org. I know Thanatermesis posted about the 0.1 version`
`18:54.34`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user: touch thing and experiment yourself`
`18:54.37`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`18:54.50`	`Enlighted`	`*things`
`18:55.02`	`Enlighted`	`see the engage icon bar, change themes..`
`18:55.03`	`elive-bot`	`Enlighted: for change e17 themes, select one with the command "apt-cache search enlightenment 17 themes", install one and only copy with this line: "cp /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/* $HOME/.e/e/themes" and it will work`
`18:55.11`	`Enlighted`	`change wallpapers..`
`18:55.21`	`Enlighted`	`download new wallpapers from get-e.org...`
`18:55.27`	`Elive_user`	`k`
`18:55.38`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user: well...that will make you busy for several hours`
`18:55.40`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
`18:56.08`	`Elive_user`	`since i am usually a fluxbox user, i am more concerned with using the system right now`
`18:56.15`	`Elive_user`	`i'll spend time to make it pretty later`
`18:56.16`	`Enlighted`	`tb`
`18:56.18`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`18:57.02`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user2: btw, thx`
`18:57.04`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
`18:57.09`	`Enlighted`	`molto apreciato`
`18:57.10`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`18:57.57`	`Elive_user2`	`Elive_user : it's already pretty :) It's not like KDE where you have to remove all those ugly Keramic things`
`18:58.04`	`Elive_user`	`heh`
`18:58.05`	`Elive_user2`	`for making it usable`
`18:58.58`	`Elive_user`	`where do the stability issues come into play with e17?`
`18:59.03`	`Elive_user2`	`I'm mostly a windowmaker / fluxbox user myself`
`18:59.46`	`Elive_user2`	`in one week of intense use, the desktop only crashed once (at my office)`
`18:59.48`	`Enlighted`	`I'm a KDE/XFCE/icewm user =)`
`18:59.57`	`Enlighted`	`and now E17`
`19:00.15`	`automan`	`i use bits of gnome and kde in fluxbox.`
`19:00.38`	`Elive_user2`	`(I'm talking about E17... of course windowmaker or fluxbox never crash :) )`
`19:01.10`	`Elive_user2`	`the engage thing is really carbon copy of the mac os x dock, it's amazing`
`19:01.45`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian sigues por ahí?`
`19:02.02`	`automan`	`how do i enable borders once i remove them?`
`19:02.02`	`mariodebian`	`si`
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`19:02.25`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian una cosa seria posible empaquetar Lmms para Ubuntu?? como lo ves?`
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`19:02.50`	`mariodebian`	`cutOff: al empaquetar enlaza las librerías que hay instaladas`
`19:02.56`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user2: E16 never crash, too`
`19:03.03`	`Enlighted`	`if u need stability use it`
`19:03.09`	`Enlighted`	`E17 is still in alpha stage :)`
`19:03.15`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: si lo compilo yo enlaza con debian testing por eso no va en ubuntu`
`19:03.16`	`Elive_user2`	`maybe... I'm testing it right now...`
`19:03.20`	`Enlighted`	`;)`
`19:03.26`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian aja! entiendo`
`19:03.31`	`Elive_user2`	`yes, I know, so I couldn't blame it of course :)`
`19:03.32`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: si lo compilas tu enlazara con los dev que instales`
`19:03.44`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian si es lo que habia pensado`
`19:03.48`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: si quieres te explico de forma rápida como hacer el deb...`
`19:04.01`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian no ya sé hacerlo a la Debian`
`19:04.06`	`Elive_user2`	`the default theme and behaviour of E16 on Elive is really nice`
`19:04.24`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: debuild o fakerrot ?`
`19:04.29`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian de todas formas gracias`
`19:04.33`	`cut0ff`	`debuild`
`19:04.39`	`Enlighted`	`Elive_user2: E17 theme is nicer`
`19:04.40`	`Enlighted`	`^^`
`19:04.41`	`Enlighted`	`lol`
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`19:05.04`	`dats`	`buenas`
`19:05.08`	`Elive_user2`	`yes. Is it possible to have the same mac os x like dock with E17 ?`
`19:05.11`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: yo tb uso debuild`
`19:05.15`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian me guio por el tutorial de DebianWoman`
`19:05.22`	`dats`	`una pregunta sobre el idioma, alguien sabe si se puede catalanizar los menus del e17 ?`
`19:05.29`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: podrías probar a editar el deb y cambiar las dependencias`
`19:05.35`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: no pierdes nada`
`19:05.43`	`cut0ff`	`no será el debian/rules?`
`19:05.44`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: que funcione o no funciona, lo unico`
`19:05.58`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: desempaquetas el deb y editas el DEBIAN/control`
`19:06.07`	`cut0ff`	`cierto me olcidé`
`19:06.09`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: conoces el script de Thana make-deb ???`
`19:06.16`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian nop`
`19:06.22`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: o el mio: empaqueta_deb.sh`
`19:06.26`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian donde puedo verlo?`
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`19:07.06`	`automan`	`what is the default root password with a live cd?`
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`19:07.47`	`mariodebian`	`me cai`
`19:08.00`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian de todas formas ya entendí`
`19:08.06`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian gracias`
`19:08.24`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: pilla la descarga`
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`19:09.40`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: ves la transferencia?`
`19:09.52`	`cut0ff`	`pues.....`
`19:09.55`	`cut0ff`	`nop`
`19:10.04`	`CGA`	`pr0t0cod7, ping`
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`19:11.30`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: http://djmir.no-ip.com/empaqueta_deb.sh`
`19:11.36`	`Enlighted`	`mariodebian: esos puertos....`
`19:11.37`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`19:11.45`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian thanks`
`19:11.56`	`cut0ff`	`voy a desglosar ese script`
`19:12.03`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: por que puerto se mandan archivos al irc??? siempre me ha funcionado`
`19:12.19`	`Enlighted`	`mariodebian: depende del programa k uses`
`19:12.21`	`cut0ff`	`no recuerdo`
`19:12.25`	`cut0ff`	`Xchat??`
`19:12.30`	`mariodebian`	`gaim`
`19:12.31`	`cut0ff`	`ese uso yo`
`19:12.32`	`Enlighted`	`configuralo en sus opciones`
`19:13.06`	`mariodebian`	`6667???`
`19:13.07`	`cut0ff`	`en Xchat no veo el puerto`
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`19:13.35`	`Enlighted`	`debe de estar por huevos`
`19:13.40`	`Enlighted`	`en las opciones`
`19:13.42`	`Enlighted`	`busca bien`
`19:13.53`	`cut0ff`	`en las opciones del Xchat pone 0`
`19:14.10`	`Enlighted`	`apt x es en por huevos`
`19:14.21`	`cut0ff`	`Primer puerto de envio DCC = 0`
`19:14.23`	`Enlighted`	`XDDD sabia k diria eso`
`19:14.40`	`Enlighted`	`cut0ff: cambialo`
`19:14.47`	`Enlighted`	`el primero pon....7771`
`19:14.52`	`Enlighted`	`y el ultimo 7772`
`19:15.01`	`Enlighted`	`y abre ambos puertos en tu router/firewalls`
`19:15.16`	`cut0ff`	`no porque he recibido otras transferencias de otra gente y funca bién`
`19:15.24`	`Enlighted`	`torrrmentaaa`
`19:15.43`	`cut0ff`	`firewall Ok y no tengo router`
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`19:15.57`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian no importa`
`19:16.03`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian ya tengo el link`
`19:17.46`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: el script es un poco chapucero pero funcionar... funciona`
`19:18.00`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: si lo ejecutas sin comandos o con --help te da la ayuda`
`19:18.05`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian ya lo tengo`
`19:18.11`	`cut0ff`	`ok gracias`
`19:18.53`	`automan`	`does anyone know the default root password for the live cd?`
`19:19.07`	`Enlighted`	`elive`
`19:19.10`	`automan`	`ty`
`19:19.11`	`Enlighted`	`thats the pass`
`19:19.19`	`Enlighted`	`:)`
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`19:22.31`	`jaime-es`	`http://livecd.debianitas.net/news.html`
`19:22.45`	`elive-bot`	`Enlighted: http://livecd.debianitas.net/news.html`
`19:22.56`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian mira esto "Desea parchear el fichero control para openoffice? [S/n]"`
`19:23.06`	`cut0ff`	`no verdad??`
`19:23.07`	`mariodebian`	`dile que no`
`19:23.10`	`cut0ff`	`ok`
`19:23.11`	`mariodebian`	`n`
`19:23.31`	`mariodebian`	`ahora vas a /tmp/paquete/tmp/DEBIAN`
`19:23.36`	`mariodebian`	`alli esta todo`
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`19:23.52`	`mariodebian`	`cuando termines`
`19:23.55`	`cut0ff`	`lo veo`
`19:23.59`	`mariodebian`	`empaqueta_deb.sh -e`
`19:24.11`	`cut0ff`	`aja gracias`
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`19:27.49`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian esto me lo miraré con mas calma mañana, muchas gracias por la ayuda ;)`
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`19:28.01`	`mariodebian`	`de nada`
`19:29.11`	`Enlighted`	`Ed Gibson, consejero jefe de seguridad de Microsoft en el Reino Unido, reconoci� haber tenido que pagar una factura telef�nica de m�s de 600 euros por culpa de un dialer que afect� a su ordenador`
`19:29.16`	`Enlighted`	`me parto el culo`
`19:29.20`	`Enlighted`	`XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
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`19:40.17`	`AudioProLinux`	`hi there`
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`19:42.13`	`AudioProLinux`	`everybodys sleeping?`
`19:42.43`	`AudioProLinux`	`it is not so late in ME`
`19:42.49`	`AudioProLinux`	`;)`
`19:43.19`	`kryme`	`Nah ... not everybody is sleeping.`
`19:44.00`	`AudioProLinux`	`oh hi kryme`
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`19:45.08`	`kryme`	`What's happening, AudioProLinux?`
`19:48.07`	`AudioProLinux`	`oh i try to make correct settings on x, but nothing works, neither on live nor hd install`
`19:48.37`	`AudioProLinux`	`i didn't get 1024x768`
`19:49.10`	`nomed`	`AudioProLinux, xserver driver?`
`19:49.26`	`AudioProLinux`	`old ati...`
`19:49.27`	`AudioProLinux`	`mom`
`19:49.57`	`nomed`	`try to use the xfree driver ..`
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`19:52.40`	`AudioProLinux`	`and whats happen with the elive control center after hd install?`
`19:53.26`	`AudioProLinux`	`hmm are there actually some more faqs or a kind of board?`
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`19:54.39`	`kryme`	`Yeah, I noticed the control center missing as well.`
`19:55.02`	`Killeen`	`hi`
`19:55.12`	`AudioProLinux`	`hi Killeen`
`19:55.31`	`AudioProLinux`	`some connect probs?`
`19:55.49`	`Killeen`	`I-m trying elive atm`
`19:56.04`	`AudioProLinux`	`lol`
`19:56.09`	`Killeen`	`some problems with keyboard layout atm )`
`19:56.25`	`Killeen`	`i need to put it on spanish layout`
`19:56.43`	`AudioProLinux`	`ok I understand`
`19:57.19`	`sinplomo`	`Killeen, haz en una consola setxkbmap es :)`
`19:57.47`	`Killeen`	`de muerte tio :-)`
`19:57.50`	`Killeen`	`gracias`
`19:58.01`	`sinplomo`	`de nada :)`
`19:58.05`	`Killeen`	`Well I'm in love with enlightment atm, it looks so good`
`19:58.41`	`Killeen`	`need to fix a lot of things, but visually it's really clean`
`19:59.42`	`AudioProLinux`	`yes I use e17 on my regular suse, but it is not so well preconfigured like elive`
`20:00.06`	`AudioProLinux`	`but elive dosn#t rally wok so well as suse`
`20:00.33`	`AudioProLinux`	`oh my god my keyboard -I have to change it ;)`
`20:00.52`	`Killeen`	`I have Kubuntu on laptop atm, and trying the elive cd, it goes fast to be running from cd`
`20:01.06`	`AudioProLinux`	`lol`
`20:03.21`	`Killeen`	`mm i watched a video of elive running from the web, and It had an application running to change apps between virtual desktops. where is that located ? it was fun :)`
`20:05.02`	`AudioProLinux`	`don't know - can't really work with elive because of bad video-mode`
`20:05.12`	`Killeen`	`oh`
`20:05.34`	`Killeen`	`It crashes for me on first boot option, but with the option graphic problems it loads well`
`20:06.15`	`AudioProLinux`	`yes it is load an i can intall to hd and all`
`20:06.44`	`AudioProLinux`	`but whatever I do - it stays in 680x426`
`20:07.10`	`Killeen`	`hehe not nice`
`20:07.30`	`AudioProLinux`	`editing xf86Config-4 dosn't help`
`20:07.34`	`AudioProLinux`	`strange`
`20:07.53`	`AudioProLinux`	`no xconfig tool is working`
`20:08.35`	`AudioProLinux`	`ok - seemed to be a very young and early system`
`20:09.10`	`Killeen`	`YOur computer?`
`20:09.35`	`AudioProLinux`	`yes my computer`
`20:09.42`	`AudioProLinux`	`an ols computer`
`20:09.58`	`Killeen`	`Happened to me with my laptop on first days`
`20:10.00`	`AudioProLinux`	`dedicated for a small distribution`
`20:11.03`	`AudioProLinux`	`how did you change your screen resolution?`
`20:11.03`	`elive-bot`	`AudioProLinux: well, elive-resolution is if you like to start with another resolution (and install the system with this resolution), add screen=1024x768 in the boot options`
`20:11.18`	`AudioProLinux`	`no it dasn't work`
`20:11.25`	`AudioProLinux`	`I tried it`
`20:11.34`	`AudioProLinux`	`I can read the faq ;)`
`20:12.08`	`AudioProLinux`	`btw i've allready done`
`20:13.13`	`AudioProLinux`	`orgin knoppix (eg) make it easily`
`20:13.38`	`AudioProLinux`	`suse, beos and windows, too`
`20:14.54`	`AudioProLinux`	`!beer`
`20:15.41`	`AudioProLinux`	`thank you bot`
`20:15.45`	`CGA`	`!b34r`
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`20:19.20`	`campanella`	`good evening (for those where it is evening ;)`
`20:19.30`	`CGA`	`good evening`
`20:20.51`	`campanella`	`Thanatermesis: i didn't find any possibility to enter problem requests on the website. isn't there any? shall i just tell you my problem(s) on this channel?`
`20:21.40`	`AudioProLinux`	`!Thanatermesis_`
`20:23.05`	`campanella`	`AudioProLinux: was that msg for me? didn't understand that ... what do you mean?`
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`20:25.14`	`mariodebian`	`Alguien sabe como crear un boot en un canal irc?`
`20:25.18`	`mariodebian`	`bot*`
`20:25.29`	`AudioProLinux`	`campanella: there is a _ missing ;)`
`20:25.32`	`cut0ff`	`para los interesados, se ha liberado Gnome 2.12`
`20:25.42`	`AudioProLinux`	`si`
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`20:26.40`	`campanella`	`AudioProLinux: oh. thanks. my irc window was too narrow, didn't see the _ :)`
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`20:29.16`	`campanella`	`Thanatermesis_: does there exist any email address or bug database where i can put my requests?`
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`20:29.44`	`shiroferret`	`Hello`
`20:30.08`	`Thanaway`	`yes campanella`
`20:30.09`	`cut0ff`	`shiroferret hi`
`20:30.23`	`Thanaway`	`type your problem in the channel and Im read for this tomorrow`
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`20:31.20`	`Enlighted`	`Thanaway: en vez de una donacion al elive creo que te voy a pagar un curso de ingles basico en la EOI de BCN...`
`20:31.25`	`Enlighted`	`XD`
`20:31.40`	`Enlighted`	`ademas, la tengo a 2 min de casa ^^`
`20:32.10`	`Thanaway`	`xD`
`20:33.05`	`campanella`	`Thanatermesis_: i installed the system from the live cd. although everything was fine when working on the live system, i have problems with the installation: install went fine, but as i now try to boot, the system hangs (different, once at 'registering modules', once at 'calulating module dependencies'). i didn't get any further yet :(`
`20:33.21`	`shiroferret`	`once elive is installed to the HD is there a control panel like on the live cd?`
`20:33.55`	`Enlighted`	`Thanaway: no`
`20:33.59`	`Enlighted`	`u are not away :D`
`20:34.23`	`Thanaway`	`Enlighted yes, if my gf looks me in the computer... Im died :S`
`20:34.45`	`Enlighted`	`uhm`
`20:34.49`	`Thanaway`	`campanella you can't posible login in entrance ?`
`20:34.51`	`Enlighted`	`ahora comprenderas pq soy gay`
`20:34.54`	`Enlighted`	`jajaja`
`20:35.00`	`Enlighted`	`tias sux`
`20:35.00`	`Thanaway`	`xDDDD`
`20:35.11`	`cut0ff`	`el 'iluminado'`
`20:35.15`	`cut0ff`	`;)`
`20:35.18`	`campanella`	`Thanaway: no i don't even get to any login window`
`20:35.23`	`Enlighted`	`cut0ff: que? :D`
`20:35.29`	`cut0ff`	`tu nick`
`20:35.31`	`cut0ff`	`xD`
`20:35.35`	`Enlighted`	`ya`
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`20:35.48`	`Enlighted`	`gay = iluminado ?`
`20:35.54`	`cut0ff`	`no xDDD`
`20:36.03`	`cut0ff`	`dejalo`
`20:36.21`	`Thanaway`	`campanella http://thanatermesis.no-ip.org/shots/elive-entrance1.jpg`
`20:36.25`	`Enlighted`	`:P`
`20:36.29`	`mariodebian`	`Thanaway: podrias explicarme como hacer un bot en un canal para que sea el canal propio?`
`20:36.30`	`Thanaway`	`campanella you don't have this after the boot ?`
`20:37.03`	`Thanaway`	`mariodebian no acabo de entender bien.. quieres un bot que entre siempre? algo como apt ? de todas formas no se programar bots, pero felix hizo elive-bot`
`20:37.24`	`campanella`	`Thanaway: nope. i'm still stuck on the console where all the boot information is displayed.`
`20:37.40`	`mariodebian`	`Thanaway: necesito algo para darle el op y si me salgo luego poder recuperarlo`
`20:37.41`	`Thanaway`	`apt x en es nope. i'm still stuck on the console where all the boot information is displayed.`
`20:38.10`	`mariodebian`	`apt x es en soy un bot?`
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`20:38.19`	`Thanaway`	`uf, eso que dices es complicado mariodebian , pero si registras tu nick, y registras un canal, tu op seimpre permanece, incluso puedes hacer que se te ponga solo (freenode)=`
`20:38.32`	`mariodebian`	`como es eso?`
`20:38.41`	`mariodebian`	`mi nick ya esta registrado`
`20:38.48`	`mariodebian`	`como registro el canal?`
`20:38.56`	`Thanaway`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:39.01`	`Thanaway`	`o help a secas`
`20:39.01`	`jaime-es`	`Thanaway: Publicos:`
`20:39.01`	`jaime-es`	`Thanaway: help, date <ciudad>, rae <palabra>, traducir <way> <frase>, lastseen <nick>, lasturl, show <package>`
`20:39.01`	`jaime-es`	`Thanaway: Privados:`
`20:39.01`	`jaime-es`	`Thanaway: startlog [canal], endlog, autorizar <nick>, denegar <nick>, join <canal>, recordar <regexp> <frase>, part <canal>`
`20:39.01`	`elive-bot`	`Thanaway: Publicos:`
`20:39.02`	`elive-bot`	`Thanaway: help, date <ciudad>, rae <palabra>, traducir <way> <frase>, lastseen <nick>, lasturl, show <package>`
`20:39.02`	`elive-bot`	`Thanaway: Privados:`
`20:39.02`	`elive-bot`	`Thanaway: startlog [canal], endlog, autorizar <nick>, denegar <nick>, join <canal>, recordar <regexp> <frase>, part <canal>`
`20:39.02`	`elive-bot`	`jaime-es: Lo siento jaime-es, no confio en vos!`
`20:39.02`	`jaime-es`	`elive-bot: Lo siento elive-bot, no confio en vos!`
`20:39.04`	`Thanaway`	`dios !`
`20:39.06`	`egrub`	`mariodebian: Pones tu nick "mandrimario"`
`20:39.08`	`egrub`	`xDDDDDDDDD`
`20:39.19`	`AudioProLinux`	`well my band have a spanish name -"Los Hermanos de Don Alfredo"`
`20:39.24`	`Thanaway`	`felix esto es una revolucion, eh ?`
`20:39.29`	`AudioProLinux`	`but i dosn't know any`
`20:39.31`	`egrub`	`Mandriva + Mario = mandrivario. mariodebian`
`20:39.33`	`egrub`	`xDDDDDDDDD`
`20:39.39`	`Thanaway`	`lol`
`20:40.11`	`AudioProLinux`	`adios amigos`
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`20:40.15`	`mariodebian`	`mandriva???`
`20:40.25`	`egrub`	`Es una joda`
`20:40.26`	`egrub`	`Jejeje`
`20:40.28`	`Thanaway`	`campanella and not continue ? mmmh, strange, but I need to go with my gf for this moments to drink....`
`20:40.41`	`Thanaway`	`(she like to drink me for Im drunk and violates me)`
`20:40.42`	`Thanaway`	`lol`
`20:40.55`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian yo tampoco entiendo ná`
`20:40.56`	`cut0ff`	`xD`
`20:41.03`	`cut0ff`	`expliquense`
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`20:41.08`	`campanella`	`Thanaway: no, doesn't continue ... hehe np, i need to go to sleep anyway. cu tomorrow probably :)`
`20:41.14`	`campanella`	`good night everybody waves`
`20:41.35`	`Thanaway`	`bueno, yo tambien tengo que irme... nos vemos seguramente mañana por la noche`
`20:41.39`	`Thanaway`	`ciao bambinos`
`20:41.46`	`CGA`	`ciao`
`20:42.45`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian según tus palabras, deduzco que quieres crear un canal IRC??`
`20:44.40`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff:`
`20:44.46`	`mariodebian`	`cut0ff: estamos en ello....`
`20:44.50`	`cut0ff`	`waiting for response`
`20:44.59`	`cut0ff`	`aja!`
`20:45.18`	`cut0ff`	`si no t importa podrias decirme cual seria el tema?`
`20:46.54`	`mariodebian`	`es para las charlas de mañana`
`20:46.57`	`mariodebian`	`en fuerteventura`
`20:47.10`	`mariodebian`	`esperamos usar el irc para enviar como recibir info desde fuera`
`20:48.23`	`cut0ff`	`gracias`
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`20:48.57`	`mariodebian`	`#gnumax`
`20:51.27`	`cut0ff`	`mariodebian si ya leí hace unos dias`
`20:52.20`	`cut0ff`	`e incluso felicité en /. la iniciativa de crear el Dia Del Software Libre`
`20:53.46`	`mariodebian-cena`	`estamos pensando en usar el irc para la charla...`
`20:53.52`	`mariodebian-cena`	`pero no se que talse dará`
`20:59.45`	`cut0ff`	`mario _cena_ xD`
`20:59.51`	`cut0ff`	`;)`
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`21:21.03`	`phil-debian`	`hello everyone. if i install elive to my hdd and change my sources to something else, will apt-get update && apt-get upgrade still upgrade elive to the newest versions?`
`21:27.15`	`sinplomo`	`yes`
`21:27.21`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es tricky`
`21:27.51`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es tricky`
`21:27.59`	`sinplomo`	`apt x en es get on your roof and wave a flag, burkan might still see you`
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`21:41.18`	`CGA`	`nn all`
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`21:48.45`	`Elive_user`	`Exabi`
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`22:27.35`	`cut0ff`	`hi everyone`
`22:28.46`	`cut0ff`	`enass`
`22:28.49`	`cut0ff`	`!!`
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`22:35.59`	`Elive_user`	`hello`
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`23:18.38`	`Elive_user`	`wow there is a surprising amount of people in here`
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`23:19.20`	`LiNoobux`	`hello?`
`23:19.53`	`LiNoobux`	`you guys speak english?`
`23:20.26`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: that depends`
`23:20.36`	`LiNoobux`	`how can I get my sound to work in elive?`
`23:20.56`	`LiNoobux`	`well my xchat appears to be in spanish, I think`
`23:21.19`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: :)`
`23:21.41`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: what's your soundcard?`
`23:21.57`	`LiNoobux`	`er... uh... it's some kind of ESS I think`
`23:22.42`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: hmmm you must be sure ;)`
`23:22.59`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: well log in as root`
`23:23.02`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: and run:`
`23:23.12`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: lspci \|grep -i multim`
`23:25.05`	`LiNoobux`	`it says it's an Ensoniq es1371`
`23:25.16`	`felix`	`ok`
`23:25.30`	`felix`	`let me check something`
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`23:26.29`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: write in the root console this:`
`23:26.32`	`Elive_user`	`hello all`
`23:26.42`	`felix`	`modprobe snd-ens1371`
`23:26.54`	`Elive_user2`	`oh.. hi..`
`23:26.56`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: that's the way to load the card driver`
`23:27.02`	`felix`	`Elive_user: hello`
`23:27.05`	`felix`	`crazy-weasel: hello`
`23:27.15`	`crazy-weasel`	`wasn't prepared for autoconnect g`
`23:27.19`	`crazy-weasel`	`just booted elive`
`23:27.22`	`Elive_user`	`this elive is pretty kewl`
`23:27.32`	`felix`	`Elive_user: hehe say it to Thanaway`
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`23:28.24`	`felix`	`Thanashiba: hello :)`
`23:28.28`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, escondido entre las mantas ?`
`23:28.29`	`felix`	`Thanashiba: nice username :-P`
`23:28.30`	`Thanashiba`	`hello felix :)`
`23:28.31`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:28.38`	`Thanashiba`	`si sinplomo xD`
`23:28.49`	`cut0ff`	`Thanashiba jeje nombre mas xulo`
`23:29.02`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, llevas arrastrando un cable de 30 m ?`
`23:29.03`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`23:29.20`	`Thanashiba`	`cut0ff: desde el portatil ;)`
`23:29.36`	`Elive_user`	`how come......when i run synaptic to update libc6 and locales everything is ok.....till i reboot......then no x`
`23:29.39`	`Elive_user`	`anyone know`
`23:29.42`	`Elive_user`	`?`
`23:30.11`	`Thanashiba`	`Elive_user: can't posible enter after "entrance" ?`
`23:30.13`	`felix`	`Elive_user: what did the Xserver log said?`
`23:30.16`	`felix`	`s/said/say/`
`23:30.17`	`Elive_user2`	`thing is ok for a try out of e17`
`23:30.26`	`Elive_user2`	`but lots a stuff i sfunky`
`23:30.38`	`Elive_user`	`never gets to entrance`
`23:30.50`	`Thanashiba`	`apt x en es never gets to entrance`
`23:30.50`	`Elive_user2`	`even su fucked up at some point`
`23:31.06`	`Elive_user2`	`will install sth proper in the mornnin`
`23:31.10`	`Thanashiba`	`Elive_user: upgrade libc6 ? o_O`
`23:31.36`	`Elive_user`	`when i do x breaks`
`23:31.48`	`Elive_user`	`when i upgrade locales also`
`23:31.48`	`sinplomo`	`why do you upgrade libc6 ?`
`23:31.59`	`Elive_user`	`dependency?`
`23:32.02`	`Elive_user`	`why not?`
`23:32.05`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, si, son actualizaciones recientes de debian testing`
`23:32.35`	`LiNoobux`	`felix, I typed it the modprobe thing and it didn't verbose anything and went to the next line`
`23:32.38`	`Thanashiba`	`mmmmh`
`23:32.39`	`Thanashiba`	`x-window-system:`
`23:32.39`	`Thanashiba`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:32.39`	`Thanashiba`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:32.46`	`Thanashiba`	`a upgrade from x-window-system`
`23:33.03`	`Thanashiba`	`mmmmh, o_O`
`23:33.06`	`Thanashiba`	`xorg ?`
`23:33.16`	`Thanashiba`	`WOW`
`23:33.26`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: write "lsmod" in the root console and tell me if the module is loaded`
`23:33.35`	`Thanashiba`	`the packages of xorg enter in ETCH !`
`23:33.40`	`felix`	`LiNoobux: remember in *nix "no news are good news"`
`23:33.43`	`Thanashiba`	`slowly enter..`
`23:33.47`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, no xorg on testing`
`23:34.08`	`sinplomo`	`x-window-system:`
`23:34.08`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:34.09`	`sinplomo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:34.13`	`Thanashiba`	`sinplomo: acaban de entrar, osea, estan entrando`
`23:34.42`	`Thanashiba`	`Elive_user: its very posible to are caused by xorg packages`
`23:34.55`	`damosu`	`juas`
`23:34.56`	`LiNoobux`	`felix, yes it is on the list`
`23:34.58`	`damosu`	`ya te digo`
`23:35.02`	`Elive_user`	`oh no.....gotta go.....will be back later`
`23:35.04`	`damosu`	`xorg en etch`
`23:35.09`	`Thanashiba`	`damosu: estoy flipando, JODER, ES QUE NO TENIA YA BASTANTE TRABAJO ! ?`
`23:35.12`	`LiNoobux`	`that and a bunch of others under snd, and midi and stuff`
`23:35.13`	`damosu`	`que rapido no?`
`23:35.25`	`damosu`	`rapidiiisimo`
`23:35.28`	`Thanashiba`	`dios..`
`23:35.35`	`damosu`	`si acaba de salir en sid hace nada`
`23:35.41`	`damosu`	`joer macho`
`23:35.44`	`Thanashiba`	`pr0t0cod7: ping, CODE ROUGE !`
`23:35.46`	`Thanashiba`	`lol`
`23:35.55`	`damosu`	`como esta cambiando debian`
`23:35.58`	`damosu`	`lol!`
`23:36.04`	`damosu`	`y parecia que no`
`23:36.06`	`Thanashiba`	`si, y a mi ? a mi me van a matar...`
`23:36.11`	`damosu`	`xDD`
`23:36.12`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, xDDDDDDDDDD`
`23:36.14`	`damosu`	`yas te digo`
`23:36.24`	`sinplomo`	`ya te digo, mejor sarge no Thanashiba ?`
`23:36.25`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:36.28`	`LiNoobux`	`brb`
`23:36.33`	`Thanashiba`	`mira el Elive_user damosu ... el sistema ya no le entra en X por culpa de upgradear el sistema... xorg.. dios`
`23:36.34`	`damosu`	`o te quedas en sarge o malemente xDD`
`23:36.39`	`Thanashiba`	`a mi me quieren matar`
`23:36.41`	`Thanashiba`	`te lo digo yo`
`23:36.41`	`sinplomo`	`claro`
`23:36.42`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:36.47`	`crazy-weasel`	`bye..`
`23:36.47`	`Thanashiba`	`quien me mand� a hacer elive ? xD`
`23:36.47`	`damosu`	`juas que putadon`
`23:36.51`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, aniquilan la competencia`
`23:36.52`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:36.53`	`damosu`	`xDDD`
`23:36.56`	`Thanashiba`	`xD`
`23:37.05`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, prohibe instalar xorg`
`23:37.06`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:37.19`	`Thanashiba`	`joder, como me vea la novia levantar de la cama me mata...`
`23:37.22`	`sinplomo`	`estas cosas se avisan joder`
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`23:38.19`	`Thanatermesis`	`veamos el problema`
`23:38.32`	`Thanatermesis`	`'--==(/var/www)==--> apt-get upgrade`
`23:38.34`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, dile a tu novia que es una emergencia`
`23:38.38`	`sinplomo`	`una conspiracion`
`23:38.38`	`damosu`	`el problema va ser gordo me parece`
`23:38.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`66 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 24 no actualizados.`
`23:38.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`Necesito descargar 69,9MB de archivos.`
`23:38.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`Se utilizarán 17,9MB de espacio de disco adicional después de desempaquetar.`
`23:38.43`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, no, dist-upgrade`
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`23:38.51`	`damosu`	`me quedare si aceleracion?`
`23:38.55`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo no sabe nisiquiera lo que es "elive" ¬¬`
`23:39.03`	`damosu`	`si aun la consegui ayer xDD`
`23:39.06`	`Thanatermesis`	`damosu yo de ti no actualizaria xD`
`23:39.15`	`damosu`	`ya actualize xDD`
`23:39.23`	`Thanatermesis`	`bueno, vamos a ver`
`23:39.24`	`damosu`	`queria verlo con mis ojos`
`23:39.24`	`sinplomo`	`Thanashiba, gcc4 es el compilador por defecto de testing`
`23:39.28`	`sinplomo`	`nos quieren matar`
`23:39.30`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:39.41`	`Thanatermesis`	`paso importante, 1, el x-window-system tiene que estar en version "elive"`
`23:39.59`	`sinplomo`	`joder cabrones`
`23:40.09`	`sinplomo`	`el dia que empieza el insti meten xorg`
`23:40.11`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
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`23:40.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`Los siguientes paquetes se ELIMINARÁN:`
`23:40.14`	`Thanatermesis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:40.22`	`Thanatermesis`	`normal que al tio no le arrancaban las X... ¬¬`
`23:40.27`	`sinplomo`	`xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD`
`23:40.41`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, la gente no sabe leer`
`23:40.45`	`\|reliver\|`	`porque te quieren matar ?`
`23:41.33`	`Thanatermesis`	`sinplomo me da igual lo que no sepa hacer la gente`
`23:41.44`	`Thanatermesis`	`ahora todo el mundo que se upgradée Elive, se va a quedar sin X`
`23:41.46`	`Thanatermesis`	`que divertido`
`23:42.11`	`sinplomo`	`por fin sale una buena version de elive y ya quieren darle por culo`
`23:42.31`	`\|reliver\|`	`ah, los usuarios de elive ?`
`23:44.20`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, meten xorg, pero tmb hay una actualizacion de xfree86 :)`
`23:45.43`	`Thanatermesis`	`http://elivecd.org/gb/News/index.html`
`23:45.47`	`Thanatermesis`	`pr0t0cod7 http://elivecd.org/gb/News/index.html`
`23:46.16`	`damosu`	`ya vereis, cuando reinicie las x voy a flipar`
`23:46.31`	`damosu`	`ummm`
`23:46.44`	`damosu`	`mierda tengo que dormir!`
`23:46.52`	`damosu`	`deberia estar durmiendo`
`23:47.01`	`Thanatermesis`	`no esta facil la cosa...`
`23:47.05`	`damosu`	`en tres horas tengo que currar`
`23:47.07`	`Thanatermesis`	`como poder llevar el control de todo esto ?`
`23:47.11`	`damosu`	`cojones`
`23:47.23`	`damosu`	`que horas son estas de actualizar xD`
`23:47.29`	`Thanatermesis`	`no digo de ahora, digo de siempre`
`23:47.37`	`damosu`	`ummm`
`23:47.40`	`Thanatermesis`	`como poder actualizar "seguro" de esta forma? esto no es seguro`
`23:47.44`	`damosu`	`buena pregunta`
`23:47.58`	`Thanatermesis`	`aunque solo es culpa de xorg, no deberia pasar nada mas`
`23:48.03`	`Thanatermesis`	`entre ""`
`23:48.08`	`sinplomo`	`he probado upgrade`
`23:48.11`	`sinplomo`	`y dist-upgrade`
`23:48.22`	`sinplomo`	`y ninguna me intento meter xorg`
`23:48.28`	`sinplomo`	`pero si la mierda de gcc-4.0`
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`23:51.40`	`damosu`	`na el gcc no problem`
`23:51.50`	`damosu`	`eliges el que quieras`
`23:52.06`	`damosu`	`bueno voy a probar el xorg de etch ;)`
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`23:54.00`	`damosu`	`estooo`
`23:54.02`	`damosu`	`como se si estoy en xorg o en xfree?`
`23:54.10`	`damosu`	`pq esto funka perfecto`
`23:54.17`	`sinplomo`	`damosu, xorg va bien`
`23:54.23`	`sinplomo`	`pero peta cuando usas el composite`
`23:54.24`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:54.24`	`damosu`	`solo que tardo mas en arrancar`
`23:54.32`	`sinplomo`	`normal`
`23:54.39`	`sinplomo`	`no es digamos muuuuy estable`
`23:54.42`	`damosu`	`ya pero es que tengo los drivers de ati`
`23:54.55`	`sinplomo`	`usa los drivers de ati de xorg`
`23:54.58`	`sinplomo`	`dice que son mejores`
`23:54.59`	`cut0ff`	`puufff con ATI lo tienes xungo`
`23:55.04`	`damosu`	`ya`
`23:55.11`	`damosu`	`pero bueno ahora bien`
`23:55.24`	`damosu`	`consegui hacerlos funcionar en condiciones`
`23:55.32`	`cut0ff`	`con aceleración?`
`23:55.46`	`damosu`	`si`
`23:55.53`	`sinplomo`	`damosu, como puedo eligir la version de gcc que quiera ?`
`23:55.53`	`cut0ff`	`pues te feluicito`
`23:56.08`	`damosu`	`/usr/bin/gcc`
`23:56.09`	`sinplomo`	`cut0ff, es instalar un .run solo :)`
`23:56.12`	`damosu`	`es un link`
`23:56.15`	`sinplomo`	`ok`
`23:56.19`	`damosu`	`ummm`
`23:56.23`	`cut0ff`	`eso es tu caso`
`23:56.25`	`sinplomo`	`lo borro y hago el que me quiera`
`23:56.27`	`damosu`	`esto pa mi que es xfree`
`23:56.31`	`damosu`	`claro`
`23:56.35`	`cut0ff`	`pero cuentale al 95% del resto`
`23:56.36`	`sinplomo`	`damosu, activa composite`
`23:56.43`	`damosu`	`que es eso?`
`23:56.50`	`damosu`	`y como funka`
`23:57.05`	`sinplomo`	`damosu, para las transparencias y tal`
`23:57.15`	`sinplomo`	`hay que ver si metieron el xcomprgr`
`23:57.19`	`damosu`	`pero esto pa mi que es xfree`
`23:57.26`	`damosu`	`de xorg nada`
`23:57.33`	`cut0ff`	`ojo porque eso consume recursos que no veas`
`23:57.34`	`sinplomo`	`damosu, estas seguro ?`
`23:57.36`	`sinplomo`	`XD`
`23:57.36`	`damosu`	`no veo ningun xorg.conf`
`23:57.43`	`sinplomo`	`damosu, malo malo`
`23:57.44`	`sinplomo`	`xD`
`23:57.46`	`damosu`	`nada cambio`
`23:57.55`	`damosu`	`como se la version que uso`
`23:58.03`	`sinplomo`	`damosu, claro, el xorg puede arrancar sin un archivo de conf :)`
`23:58.03`	`cut0ff`	`gcc -version`
`23:58.10`	`sinplomo`	`no se si xfree tmb`
`23:58.11`	`damosu`	`no eso no`
`23:58.14`	`damosu`	`las x`
`23:58.18`	`cut0ff`	`joder perdona`
`23:58.27`	`sinplomo`	`cut0ff, ya ya`
`23:58.28`	`damosu`	`na perdonao xD`
`23:58.31`	`sinplomo`	`--version :)`
`23:58.39`	`damosu`	`gcc -v`
`23:59.50`	`sinplomo`	`Thanatermesis, que haces ?`
`23:59.56`	`damosu`	`estoy en xfree`
`23:59.59`	`Thanatermesis`	`solucionar el problema`

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